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Speaker 1: Back at it for another show. John Murphy and Steam

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Speaker 1: Tasker here at One Bill's Drive. Today, we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: to former offensive lineman Dave Laughham. He's from Cincinnati. He

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Speaker 1: does their color radio analyst job on their broadcast. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get their perspective about this week's game against the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Andy Venoi of MMQB has been going around the league

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Speaker 1: giving a preview for the season. We'll get his take

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Speaker 1: on the Buffalo Bills coming up today at one o'clock

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Speaker 1: and also after practice. Rod Street is gonna come in

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Speaker 1: pretty good camp. Plus, we'll hear from the coordinators Bryan

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live starts right now. Ote task donechtimes down textown

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Speaker 1: West Buffalo over time and show begins from Orchard Park

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Speaker 1: from New Era of Field where right next door to

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Speaker 1: New Era Field. A beautiful day in Archer Part, New

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Speaker 1: York today. The rain is gone, the sky is blue,

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Speaker 1: the temperature perfect, and the mid seventies plenty of sunshine.

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Speaker 1: The Bills out on the practice field on the other

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Speaker 1: side of our building. Here on the practice fields next

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Speaker 1: to the ad Pro Sports Training Center. We meaning me

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Speaker 1: and Steve, are inside the ad Pro Sports Training Center

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Speaker 1: and our one Buffalo studio. Welcome to the show. We're

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Speaker 1: here until three, good afternoon. Steve, how are you. I'm

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Speaker 1: doing great, and I'm doing great. How was the base

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Speaker 1: you went to the baseball went to the bisens last night?

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Speaker 1: Your Michigan polo shirt, Well, it was the first shirt

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Speaker 1: game and said, Hey, Murph almost got bean by a

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Speaker 1: foul ball. You gotta tell them to pay attention. And

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Speaker 1: you're telling me it was you should have you had

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Speaker 1: I had. I had a drink in one hand. Your

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Speaker 1: score cart. You're keeping score at the baseball you bet, yes, sir.

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Speaker 1: I always do. What's wrong with that? That's what adults

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Speaker 1: You don't need something to help. Mister baseball, you are

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Speaker 1: not an American area, You're just not an American. You

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Speaker 1: hate the way you hate baseball. Not an American. I

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Speaker 1: more less interested in it. So here's what happens. I'm

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Speaker 1: it sound like and Twitter was all a dither. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: about me? No, Um, I was on a conference call

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Speaker 1: yesterday the Bengals Cowboys game was dreadful. Yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 1: He's got him. He can't miss Kelvin Benjamin standing there

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Speaker 1: on his first pass of the game in Cleveland and

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Speaker 1: miss him by five yards. You know you can't do that.

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Speaker 1: M I think you put the bar too high for him.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, we'll find out he can do it. I

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Speaker 1: think he can too. Let's see. Where do you think

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Speaker 1: McDermott has the bar set for Josh Allen? What do

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Speaker 1: what do you think he's looking for. I think he's

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Speaker 1: looking for what I'm looking for. I think the hit

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Speaker 1: the thing you worry he gotta. You gotta assuade his

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Speaker 1: You've got to take away his worry about what you

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Speaker 1: always worry about rookie quarterbacks doing, making dumb mistakes. If

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Speaker 1: you don't make dumb mistakes, why would he not play you?

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Speaker 1: If you're not gonna make rookie mistakes, you're in. That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's my bar. I'm not I'm not disagreeing.

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Speaker 1: And except when you say no mistakes, I think that's

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Speaker 1: kind of a high standard. I don't know if anyone

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Speaker 1: can match up to that. Let's says would not any mistakes.

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Speaker 1: I'm staring against Cleveland. He made plenty of mistakes. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's it's not in the mix if he's healthy. I

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Speaker 1: think being think Murphy, here's no rookie mistakes. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's what you can't do. You can't make rookie mistakes.

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Speaker 1: You gotta make you can you can make competitive mistakes,

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Speaker 1: you can't make rookie mistakes. All right, You describe for

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Speaker 1: us what does Josh Allen's game Sunday have to look

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Speaker 1: like if he's going to be the starter September ninth

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Speaker 1: against the Baltimore Ravens. We got phone lines open on

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Speaker 1: this eighth three five fifty or toll free from outside

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Speaker 1: Buffalo one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty,

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Speaker 1: or you can send in a tweet at one bills

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Speaker 1: Live and we will mention some of those tweets on

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. What does Josh Allen need to do

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Speaker 1: Sunday to show that he can be the opening day starter?

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Speaker 1: Rob an Orchard Park on the line with us to

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Speaker 1: get it started. Hello, Rob, go ahead. Hey, we're waiting

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Speaker 1: on you. We're waiting on you, Rob. Ah. Yes, sure,

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Speaker 1: it's the reason why I think you should start Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen over Peterman week one. Tell me if I'm wrong. Um,

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Speaker 1: the defense, okay, if you've got Peterman playing, I think

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Speaker 1: that box, the defensive box is gonna be a lot

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Speaker 1: tighter because there's no threat for the deep ball. I

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Speaker 1: think having Josh Allen is here, it's gonna open up

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Speaker 1: that box a little bit more and knowing that he

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Speaker 1: can throw it deep, which is gonna help Lashan McCoy

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Speaker 1: or whoever's running the ball. I just think it'll be

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Speaker 1: real tight if Peterman's playing, because they're gonna they're gonna

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Speaker 1: know he'll throw it deep or Josh can throw it. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it's not like if Peterman or a J.

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Speaker 1: McCarn play, they're not even gonna attempt to pass down

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Speaker 1: the field. When you get into get week one, nobody's

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Speaker 1: gonna know what these guys are or four. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I get it. They're gonna pack the box, and I

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Speaker 1: think I think it's just the opposite of that. If

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Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman, I mean, if Josh Allen is the starter

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Speaker 1: on week one, I think the Baltimore Ravens packed the

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Speaker 1: box and dare him to throw it because they think

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Speaker 1: he's a young quarterback and they're gonna confin use him.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna dare him. They're gonna dare the Bills to

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Speaker 1: put the ball in the hands of a rookie starting

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Speaker 1: his first game. I disagree with that, Steve. They have

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Speaker 1: to respect his arm, they have to respect his ability

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Speaker 1: to throw it deep, don't they. They'd be foolish not to. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get it, But you don't think they're gonna force

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Speaker 1: him to make some decisions in the pocket. Yeah, they are.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna show him pressures. They're gonna do that by

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Speaker 1: taking away the run game. They're gonna take away LaShaun

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Speaker 1: McCoy first and foremost, and they're gonna dare you to

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Speaker 1: beat him with Josh Allen and his first NFL start.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I think. Would I think they will

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Speaker 1: respect his arm? I really do. I agree with the caller, Robbi.

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Speaker 1: What do you think they're not gonna respect? Do you

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna like take all the safeties out of

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Speaker 1: the field of Nathan Peterman's the quarterback. Nope, But I

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Speaker 1: do think they will respect his ability to throw it deep. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they know that the Bills are gonna want to run.

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Speaker 1: They will. They will defend Lashawan McCoy, but they will

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Speaker 1: respect much more so than they would repeat him in

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Speaker 1: or mccaron. How much the respect are they gonna give

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Speaker 1: Ray Ray McLeod lined up with the number three receiver.

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Speaker 1: I care less about that than I want. I think

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Speaker 1: they'll give Kelvin Benjamin. Do you think anybody's you think

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Speaker 1: anybody's worried about curly respect? I think they're worried about

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Speaker 1: Kelvin Benjamin running past him. No, they're worried about Benjamin

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Speaker 1: turn around bodying up on him and getting a short pass.

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Speaker 1: They're not. They're not worried about keeping the lid on

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Speaker 1: that defense. Streeter or maybe Coleman, Coleman, maybe maybe Zay Jones.

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Speaker 1: The Bills haven't shown that. I mean, I don't. I

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Speaker 1: just don't think the quarterback is going to change the

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Speaker 1: mindset of the defense as much with their abilities, as

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Speaker 1: much as the experience that Josh Allen's gonna bring. I

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Speaker 1: think the Baltimore Ravens will. They'll dare you to take

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Speaker 1: the lid off that defense, and the Ravens will Again

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Speaker 1: I agree with you to a certain extent, but the

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Speaker 1: Ravens will respect the two NFL starts that Nathan Peterman

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Speaker 1: has and and not challenge him. I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's realistic. He's got two NFL starts, two more

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Speaker 1: than Josh. Let's go to a robin see Philadelphia. Hello, Rob, Welcome,

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Speaker 1: you're on the air. John, See how you're going? Okay?

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Speaker 1: I think for Allen to be the starter in week one,

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Speaker 1: I think this weekend he needs to u show consistency,

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Speaker 1: a moving the chains. I mean, everybody knows that he

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Speaker 1: that he has a huge arm. He's gonna make plays regardless.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's gonna have the big play. I

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Speaker 1: think with him being poised making plays with his legs,

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Speaker 1: getting first downs and just having commanded the offense important.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think the quarterback competition is so close

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Speaker 1: that if comes down to the wire, you have to

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Speaker 1: go with Alan just based on the fact that he's

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Speaker 1: a younger guying like everyone's saying, he's the most talented

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Speaker 1: out of all of them. Yeah, I get you, and Rob,

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Speaker 1: I get I get that too, And you're right. I

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Speaker 1: think when I say mistake free, that's what consistency is.

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Speaker 1: You got to move the ball, score the score points, uh,

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Speaker 1: and and stay on the field offensively. And that's a

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Speaker 1: good what a good quarterback does. Now, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how difficult it's going to be against the Cincinnati team,

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Speaker 1: but that's what you want to see. You want to

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Speaker 1: see a guy that doesn't go out there, um at

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Speaker 1: the first sign of trouble, break loose and try and

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Speaker 1: run for first downs, running all over the place, pulling

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Speaker 1: the ball, and you want to see him play from

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Speaker 1: the pocket and make good throws. Uh, you're right, that's

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Speaker 1: I think consistency is abs a necessity because you know,

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Speaker 1: the top end is there. We've we've already seen that

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Speaker 1: in the two games that they've played. The guy can

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Speaker 1: can make the wow play, but can he keep the

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Speaker 1: offense on the field and make concerted, methodical drives and

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Speaker 1: grind out first downs on third and four, third and six,

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Speaker 1: third and two? Can they keep the offense on the

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Speaker 1: field on third down? That's a quarterback and if he

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Speaker 1: can do that without you know, making silly mistakes that

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Speaker 1: you see rookies make sometimes, Yeah, I think I think

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Speaker 1: that's what you're looking for. I think that's what you're

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Speaker 1: looking for. And I agree with everybody if it's a

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Speaker 1: coin flip between Peterman and Josh Allen inability and the

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Speaker 1: way they handle the offense, you know, you go with

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Speaker 1: the top end. But I think part of the reason

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Speaker 1: it gets to the coin flip is because you've already

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Speaker 1: included that. I think Peterman does have some things that

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Speaker 1: he does better than Josh Allen. So it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see the evaluation take place

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Speaker 1: because we're all going to see it for the first having. Really,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot of fun to watch, a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. On Sunday, Brian Gables getting ready for it.

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Speaker 1: The Bills offensive coordinator met with the media before the

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Speaker 1: team went out to practice today, and Dable says, Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen is spending a lot of his time this week

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Speaker 1: just getting ready to be a starting quarterback for an

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Speaker 1: NFL game. Here's what the Bills OC had to say. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's still learning. You know, he's still learning. There's you know,

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Speaker 1: this was a was a really good week for everybody,

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Speaker 1: myself included, the coaches included, to really hone in on

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Speaker 1: your routine more than plays or anything like that. Um,

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Speaker 1: this is a week for him that you know, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna prepare like he's the starter, go through the routine,

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Speaker 1: figure out how coach McDermott, you know, handles Wednesdays, Thursdays, Fridays.

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Speaker 1: The same goes for for me, you know, being new

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Speaker 1: of learning how we do things here, the practice reps

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Speaker 1: that we get, the time in between scout team where

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Speaker 1: we can go and work on some other things. It's

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Speaker 1: a good experience in terms of the routine for him

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Speaker 1: and for myself and all the new guys around here.

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Speaker 1: Brian Dable, Bill's offensive coordinator. Part of what they're doing

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Speaker 1: this week. They're doing it now. They're at practice right now.

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Speaker 1: The Bills went up to practice around eleven fifteen today.

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Speaker 1: They'll be out there till a little bit after wanting.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting too because day ball and rightfully so, so

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Speaker 1: this is my first year with his crew too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: everybody's kind of getting their pregame and game week routine

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Speaker 1: into place. In fact, Brian Dable is still fielding questions

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Speaker 1: about whether he's going to be downstairs on the field

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Speaker 1: or upstairs in the box. Yet, by the way, he's

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Speaker 1: going to be up in the booth this week. I

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Speaker 1: think it's really interesting because this is you tend to forget.

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Speaker 1: They built this team. They built it last year, and

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Speaker 1: now they've built it again this year with a lot

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Speaker 1: of new pieces, new coaches, a lot of new moving

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Speaker 1: parts this year, and they're still getting to know each other.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of wisdom in putting the team,

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Speaker 1: setting the team up with this game on Sunday, naming

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen the starter, to have everybody run through this

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Speaker 1: once before the regular season starts, because there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of new faces. Bills played the Bengals Sunday, and when

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Speaker 1: we come back, we're going to talk about the Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Bengals with Dave Lapham, who played ten years on the

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Speaker 1: offensive line for Cincinnati. He's been their radio color analyst

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Speaker 1: for several years. He joins us. Next, when we return,

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Speaker 1: we're just getting rolling from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Steam Tasker. It is One Bills Live on Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: It is the Bills and the Bengals coming up Sunday

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Speaker 1: and the Cincinnati Bengals coming to town with one of

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Speaker 1: the great radio broadcast tandems in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: Jamestown native Dan Horde calls the play by play and

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Speaker 1: our next guest does the color analysis. Dave Lapham ten

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Speaker 1: years as an offensive lineman for the Cincinnati Bengals, part

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Speaker 1: of the Bengals broadcast team since nineteen eighty six. Dave

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Speaker 1: Lapham on the Subway Fresh Take Hotline with us right

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Speaker 1: now with John Murphy and Steve Tasker. Dave, is that

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Speaker 1: right you've been? This is your thirty what second, thirty

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Speaker 1: third year of Bengals radio. It is mark thirty third year.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievab congratulations that is amazing. Congratulations, Thank you appreciate that yeah,

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Speaker 1: Stephen Hawk. Yeah, by every week. Yeah, we're trying to

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Speaker 1: get day to day here, and I'm with you. It's

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Speaker 1: a nice run. You talk to me. I'm you and

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Speaker 1: I have crossed pass a number of times when I've

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Speaker 1: been doing CBS games from the booth I've seen I've

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Speaker 1: been in Cincinnati a ton watching games. And give us

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Speaker 1: a little thumbnail about the Bengals this year. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Murph and I and maybe you can shed some light.

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Speaker 1: We watched the Dallas game, preseason game with you guys,

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Speaker 1: and we were both like, Wow, that was a preseason game.

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00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: Wow game. What was your take? What's your take on

636
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: the Bengals where they sit right now? Yeah? The biggest Uh,

637
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: how you doing, Steve, by the way, it's good to

638
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: good to catch your voiceman. Man. The biggest, biggest deal

639
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: with the Cincinnati Bengals is their offensive line. You know,

640
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: it's under every scope you can think of, telescope, microscope,

641
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: arter scope, you know, pariscope, every scope. You know, it's

642
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: being it's being studied. And the right side of the

643
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: offensive line steals up apps. Trey Hopkins and Alex Redmond

644
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: are battling for the right guard spot. Bobby Harten said,

645
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: to go a boy heat battling for the right tackle spot.

646
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: Quote Glenn former Bill they traded for as a left

647
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: tackle and Clint Bowling retains that left guard spot. To

648
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: name a rookie center, Billy Price out of Ohio State,

649
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: And you know there could be some growing pains with

650
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: a rookie at the center position having to make all

651
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: the line calls and everything goes along with that. So

652
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: that as the offensive line goes, so does this football

653
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: team go on people's estimation. I felt that was the

654
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: case last year. If the offensive line played average, they

655
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: could win ten games that they didn't they'd struggled to

656
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: win six. Well, they didn't and they did win seven,

657
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: but they were struggling. The offensive line was probably in

658
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 1: the bottom three in the league. And you know, as

659
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: we all know, if the offensive line is doing good things,

660
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: defense is better because practices are better. The offensive line's

661
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: not getting dominated and practiced by the defense, and quarterback

662
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: plays better. All the skilled people played better, the defense

663
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: has more confidence. So I think that the offensive line

664
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: is the key to this to the success for this

665
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: season because they do have skilled people. They do have

666
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: people that can move the fall and score dave you. Yeah,

667
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: and you look back a couple of years, they lost

668
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth, they lost Writer at guard, and when that

669
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: started to happen, when they started losing a really good

670
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: offensive lineman to free agency, that's kind of where it's

671
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: began to erode, is that right? No question? You know,

672
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: I mean Andrew Worth, pull Bowl player, and Ziler at

673
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: the time when he went up to Cleveland's the highest

674
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: take guard in the National Football League. He's since then surpassed.

675
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: But those are those are two quality, quality pieces and

676
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: percent of your line of hurts. And then Rust Bodine

677
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: struggled last year because I think because of the loss

678
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: of those two guys, right, I mean Rust Bodine was

679
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: a starter for you guys for four straight years and

680
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: he had a struggled last year like most of the

681
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: offensive line did, because of Whitworth and Zeiler being gone. Yeah,

682
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: I think. You know, anytime you disrupt the chemistry up front,

683
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: there's there's gonna be some ripple effect. That's I always

684
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: liken it to make in a fist, you know, it's

685
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: an involuntary reaction. There's five components of the fist, you know,

686
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: four fingers, rappids, thumb. It's just it just happens. When

687
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: an offensive line is playing well, it just happens. You know,

688
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: there's unspoken communication, they're familiar with each other. It has

689
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: to be the offensive line. It's the only Here's an

690
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: example that if you throw the ball twenty times in

691
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,479
Speaker 1: the game, you get beaten once you've blocked your guy

692
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: nineteen times to grade ninety percent. Everybody in the offensive

693
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: line in grade ninety percent. For y'all get beaten on

694
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: different players. Your quarterback gets hit five times to grade

695
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: seventy five percent. As a group, every guy individually graded

696
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: ninety percent. But it was a group the greatest seven

697
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: five percent. So it's the epitome of team work. And

698
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: when it's disrupted, you can't make that fist as strongly

699
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: with on the line. With Bengals radio color analyst Dave Lapham,

700
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: who's been covering that team for more than three decades,

701
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to ask you about the crossover players,

702
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: but I do want to ask you about a J.

703
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 1: McCarron now playing here. How was there ever a time

704
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: when AJ McCarron was seriously a challenge for Andy Daltley

705
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: quarterback that he ever kind of raised his level so

706
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: that people thought, hey, maybe this is the guy in

707
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: not I think that there were a lot of AJ

708
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: mccaren fans out there that helped that way. But AJ

709
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: will tell you that he never really got the opportunity.

710
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean, in his mind, Andy Dalton was always the

711
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: starter and the unquestioned starter, and that was the way

712
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: it was going to be. He didn't feel like he

713
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: had really a fair shot to to, you know, to

714
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: get that starting job. And then that's the reason, you know,

715
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: he was so anxious to move on. And then here

716
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: he is in Buffalo and I guess his shoulders not

717
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: as bad as they said though. No crack in that

718
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: collarbone and that clavicle. So he's practicing again. Yeah he's

719
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: limited a little bit, but because of soreness. But yeah,

720
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: he seems to be, for lack of a better way

721
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: to put it, he seems to be all in one piece.

722
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: So it's pain management. The thing with him is he's

723
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: got an unbridled joy for the game of football, There's

724
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: no question about it. And I think his intangibles. He's

725
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: a leader of men, there's no doubt. I mean, guys

726
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: in the football team that loved him. I mean, you

727
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: can talk to a rookie, a twelve year veteran offense

728
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: defense vessel games. It was unilateral. I could not find

729
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: anybody that said anything negative about AJ McCarran. He just

730
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: has that type of personality about him and he was

731
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: definitely a locker room leader. There was no question about

732
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: it with Dave Lampam, color analysts on the Bengals radio network.

733
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: So let's talk about Andy Dalton for a second, fifty

734
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: nine percent completion percentage last year, dead last in the

735
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: league in offense. You mentioned the issues with the offensive line,

736
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: but where is Andy Dalton's game this year? What have

737
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: you seen from him this year? He looks pretty pretty efficient.

738
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's early, they hadn't had a whole lot

739
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: of snaps, but the offensive line is playing with a

740
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: much more aggressive technique and mindset. They have a new

741
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: offensive line coach, Frank Paula, came up from Dallas and

742
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: cultivated you know, three Pro bowlers down there. When you

743
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: have two Pro bowlers in the same offensive planets wherever

744
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: gef three from the same group, and all three of

745
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: them made it four straight years and one of them

746
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: made it five straight years. So he's doing something right

747
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: down there, and I think they're adjusting and adapting to

748
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: his techniques pretty well. And it's given Andy Dalton a

749
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: cleaner pocket. In the past, the Bengals were a team

750
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: that retreated and caught. You know, they were catching instead

751
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: of using their hands and in jolting people and taking

752
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: them on quickly at the line of screens. Will be

753
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: doing that more now. So any Dolf pocket has had

754
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: some width and depth to it, and he's been able

755
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: to step up in the pocket, climb the pocket to

756
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: make plays when he's had too and in the past

757
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: the pocket has been collapsing on him and he's been

758
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: thrown out of a hole. I mean there's two things

759
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: to pass protection, not only time but space. Sometimes he

760
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: had neither and other times he had maybe time but

761
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: no space. He couldn't see. Everything was in his face,

762
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: so he gets the ball out of his hand very quickly.

763
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a you know, a good

764
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: year this year and pick up from where he left

765
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: off last year. The last couple of games of the season,

766
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: you know, we're pretty good for the offense compared to

767
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: the way it was. Was so miserable to start the season.

768
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: I mean two NFL games to score nine points totally.

769
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: You're home open and you get shut out and then

770
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: you put big nine points on the board three field

771
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: goals in the second game. That's not the way an

772
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: NFL offense operates. And they had to make it changes

773
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: and new coordinator. You know, early in the season. It

774
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: was a mess for everybody last year. And what's the

775
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: what's your thought about John Ross, last year's first rounder,

776
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,959
Speaker 1: didn't have a great rookie year. Is the best still

777
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: ahead for him? Or how's he done so far in

778
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: training camp this year? What do you see from him? Yeah,

779
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: he's he's much better. Murphy. I mean, his body betrayed

780
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: him last year. He had you known issue, shoulder issues.

781
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: He had more problems in a run over dog, really

782
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: and then he lost his confidence. And you know when

783
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: you lose that. Steve can speak to that. I mean,

784
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: if you if you if you're not sure of your

785
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: abilities and you start to question yourself, your dead kneed

786
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: in this competitive league, I mean, there's no question the

787
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: guy can run. He can run like a year and

788
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: he can run routes. It's not just that he's you know,

789
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: straight toward his speed. He can accelerate and then he

790
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: can decelerate as quickly as it accelerates, and he can

791
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 1: get an out of cuts and run routes. But he's

792
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: much much better than he was last year, but still

793
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: inconsistent with the catch. He's got to be more consistent.

794
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: Casting of football. Doesn't matter how fast you are, how

795
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: open you are, if you can't catch it, it's a

796
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: move point. Talk a little bit about what your expectations

797
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: are for this preseason game. Um that with the Bengals

798
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: come up to Buffalo, are they get the starter's going

799
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: to play into the third quarters? That kind of the

800
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: the traditional rotation that the Bengals are going to do.

801
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: It has been, but there's been, um, you know, some

802
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: sprinkling of younger players Steve. You know, it's like Marvin

803
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: feels like, all right, well this guy's shown me something.

804
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: Let me move him up from reserves of varsity and

805
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: put them in with the number one and see how

806
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: he responds to getting some snaps, you know with those guys.

807
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: So he will filter some some guys in there, and

808
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: he wants to take a look at, you know, with

809
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: another group. It's in fact, he feels like during the

810
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: courses that he can make the team. And during the

811
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: course this season he can help with some sub packet

812
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: snaps and that sort of thing, but other than that,

813
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: Traditionally in the past he's gone the second quarter and

814
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: then sometimes they've only played the first half. Other times

815
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: he's wanted them to cool down, halftime adjustments, warm back up,

816
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 1: go out and play in the second half for a series.

817
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: And with the youth on this football team, particularly in

818
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: the offensive line, we're not necessarily young, but some youth,

819
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: and then they're trying to bash like we were talking about,

820
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me to see the old line definitely, you know,

821
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: go go back out and play a little bit into

822
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: that third quarter because they need snaps together. Hey, Dave Stephen,

823
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: I have talked a lot this week about all the

824
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: connections between these teams, you know, with McCarron here and

825
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: Russell boat on Year and Preston Brown, Cordy Glenn coaching staff,

826
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: you know, Hasslet and Alex van Pell, all of them.

827
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: Trumped by Andy Dalton's returned to Buffalo after what went

828
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: on last year. With the donations coming from Buffalo to

829
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton's foundation, I still can't get over that more

830
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: than half a million dollars from Buffalo fans to a

831
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: couple of Bengals players. Foundation is really one of the

832
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: most heartwarming recent events I think in NFL history. It's stunning,

833
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: it really is. I mean Andy Dalton still shakes his

834
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: head and disbeliefs. You know, he's been overwhelmed and I

835
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: mean seriously all overwhelmed by the people of Buffalo. You know,

836
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's so thanking me. He does. He

837
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: does a great job reaching out to the community. He

838
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: does a lot of things, uh, for families that are

839
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: at children's hospital, and you know, to give the parents

840
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: time together and take care of the kids while while

841
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: they're doing the time some of these things. And he's tremendous.

842
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: He's done really really good work there and for the

843
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: people of Buffalo to donate like they did. He's just

844
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: every time he talks about it, he gets emotional, you

845
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: know what I mean, he starts to cheer up a

846
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: little bit. He just can't quite believe it. And obviously

847
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: that was a that was a huge play for the

848
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: Bengals to knock the Baltimore Ravens out of the playoffs.

849
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: They love doing that to arrival and then then obviously

850
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 1: let Buffalo in seventeen seventeen year drought. So the dynamic

851
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: of it was was pretty amazing. And like you said,

852
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: between Andy Dalton and Tyler Boyd with his football camps

853
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: in his foundation, you know, they donated to that as well.

854
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: So it's, uh, it's it says a lot about the

855
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: people of Buffalo. You know, you can you can talk

856
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: to talk, but man, they walk the walk in a

857
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: big way. I mean, the Chiefs, I can't. I can't

858
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: believe how that whole community just gave back like that.

859
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: It was amazing. We'll talk more about it on Sunday,

860
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure absolutely. Hey Dave, thanks for this. We'll see

861
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: you here Sunday. Have a safe trip here, look forward

862
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: to guys. Thank you, you bet. Dave Lapham is ten

863
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: years in the NFL as an offensive line him for

864
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: the Bengals in his thirty third season as a color

865
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: analyst senter Sincinnati Bengals Radio Network. That's pretty impressive. Yeah,

866
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: you know, just a kind of longevity. I think of

867
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: what he's seen, right, he saw the Bengals with the

868
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 1: Sam White and rise up and play you know, AFC

869
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: Championship games and Super Bowls, and then they hit a

870
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: long decline and then back up again when Dalton arrived.

871
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: And Marvin Lewis has been there for most of that.

872
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: I mean he's seen I mean that franchise. When did

873
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: the Bengals start at late sixties? That franchise is only

874
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess forty five fifty years old. I'll look

875
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: it up. He's been there for thirty three of those years.

876
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: It was, yeah, and it is an old, old, kind

877
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: of old time mom and pop organization. Mike Brown, who

878
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: was Paul Brown's son, runs it. He's got his family,

879
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: his kids, and his grandkids working in the organization. I

880
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: mean it is a family operation over there, and there

881
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: is a special feel to it. Sometimes the critics will say,

882
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: sometimes to their detriment, but Dave Laugham is a perfect example.

883
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: They're loyal. If you're a company guy and you've and

884
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: you've gone the extra mile for the Cincinnati Bengals, the

885
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: Brown family doesn't forget you. And there's a lot of

886
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: examples of that through the years, but Dave Laughing being

887
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: the color analyst on the radio, it's just one small

888
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: example of it. This is I'm gonna make sure you

889
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: get this right. This is the fifty first season of

890
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals football. They started in nineteen sixty eight and

891
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: laugham's been around there since for what thirty three of

892
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: those fifty one years. That's amazing, all right, thank you.

893
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 1: Dave joined us on the Subway Fresh Take Hutline, Subway

894
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: Eat Fresh, Steve and I back with more One Bill's

895
00:41:46,600 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome

896
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: back to the show, John Murphy and Steve Tasker coming

897
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: to you from One Goes Live Our thanks to Dave

898
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: Lapham from the Cincinnati Bengals Radio network. Coming up at

899
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: one o'clock. We're gonna be alive with the Andy Benoit

900
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 1: from MMQB. Thanks for joining us on the show today.

901
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: Voices in our ears, Yeah yeah, voices in our ears?

902
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: Is it distracting? Yes, yes it is. On our We

903
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: don't have a Twitter poll today. I've been out voted again.

904
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: Why are you guys down on the poles? Jay? I

905
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: like it when people haven't can give us their opinion

906
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: instead of just being a We don't want you to

907
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 1: be just as statistic. You can always want to build.

908
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: The beauty of the poll is all our listeners and

909
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: viewers become statistics, that's all they ours twenty three percent,

910
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: thirty eight percent. Remember the poll that we had last

911
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: week as to who was going to they predicted who's

912
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: going to start, and it was all thirty eight percent

913
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: for Peterman and fifty two percent for Josh Allen and

914
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: percent whatever it was the Poles. It reduces bottle track progress.

915
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: See what people think. It reduces our It reduces our

916
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: loyal listeners to statistics anyway, um our Twitter questions may

917
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: overstating my opinion. What does Josh Allen need to do

918
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: Sunday against the Bengals the show he can be? The

919
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: opening day starter September ninth against the Baltimore Ravens. Give

920
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: us a call, let us hear what you think. Eight

921
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: oh three fifty to three one eight eight eight five

922
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. Here's a call from John at

923
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: Cheek and Walker. Hello John, Hey guys, thanks for taking

924
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: the call Um on your questionnaire. I like to think

925
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Josh and the reason why I think

926
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: he's done rather well on third down efficiency. Um. That

927
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: one touchdown he threw was on a third down. Most

928
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: of the third downs I've seen him on he's done

929
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: something with the ball. They've moved it. They've got the

930
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: first downs. I think there's key in Buffaloy. We've had

931
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: so many quarterbacks that just you gonna go three and out.

932
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: And I think it's gonna be refreshing if he can

933
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: do a Sunday to get the majority of the third

934
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: downs and completed in one form or the other, that

935
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: I think it's going to go a long way with

936
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: him starting a hoppy day. Yeah maybe, I mean that's

937
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: just I think that's just one aspect of it. I

938
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: don't think you can really pick grab one statistic and say, hey,

939
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: this is why this guy should be starting. I mean, certainly,

940
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: if the other two guys stink at it, one of

941
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: the guys emerges as as a guy, that's certainly a

942
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: notch in their favor. But I don't think you know,

943
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: even third down offense. I mean, why wouldn't it be

944
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: how many points the guy scored as being a bigger indicator,

945
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: or how many snaps or how many points per snappy scored.

946
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: I mean, it could be anything. But I mean I

947
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: have a hard time just picking out third down efficiency

948
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: as the one thing that's going to show up Sunday

949
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: and put him over the top. John, I agree I

950
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: agree with that. You guy have points, but I just

951
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,479
Speaker 1: think it. You know, when you complete the third downs,

952
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: it just gives you more of an opportunity to keep

953
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: the ball going and then getting me absolutely and I

954
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: threw that into my thing as well. They didn't stay

955
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: on the field with him. The longer you have the ball,

956
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: the more chance you do have to score. And you know,

957
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: theoretically any paid play can go for a touchdown, and

958
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: I think staying on the field is part of what

959
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm looking for now. Well, we can say it a

960
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: bunch of different ways. I think basically, Murph and I

961
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 1: kind of agree on although we stayed in different ways

962
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: and it sounds like we disagree. I think the key

963
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: thing is, I think we all think there's a real

964
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: chance Josh Allen wins the job this Sunday. He can

965
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: do it. He's got the physical ability and we'll see

966
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: if the players play around him to give him a

967
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: chance to do it. But I think he's got to

968
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: stay consistent and mistake free. And Murph says, well, you

969
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: can take consistency is big. Mistake free I think sets

970
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: the bar a little bit extremely high. I don't know

971
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: if anybody is mistake free but yeah, consistency is is critical,

972
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: I think for whoever's going to be that starting quarterback.

973
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: Again repeating what I said earlier, like to see him

974
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: make a few big plays, a couple of deep passes downfield.

975
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: Like to see him look comfortable running to him in

976
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: at offense and any other special situations situations, and continue

977
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: what he's done, which I think has been pretty good.

978
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: Again repeating, I don't think it's his job to lose,

979
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: but I think he is in position to lock down

980
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: the starting spot with a good performance this Sunday, John,

981
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: you got anything else? No, No, I just like you said,

982
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: just keep keep the ball going on the field, and

983
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: I think you'd take a long way to him about

984
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: certain and opening date. Yeah, thanks, well, thanks for the calling.

985
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: And that's right, I mean I have him, Yeah, I

986
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: mean it's hard to say you want to be more

987
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: specific than that and then just say yes, I hope

988
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: he plays well and if he does, he wins. There's

989
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: more to it than that, and I think, you know,

990
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: football fans kind of know what they're looking at in

991
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: the NFL. You want to see him win and be

992
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,479
Speaker 1: consistent from the pocket. You want to see it looked

993
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: like an NFL offense. You want to see him pop

994
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: in and out of the huddle. You want to see

995
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: him break out of the huddle with twelve to fifteen

996
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: seconds left on the play clock. You want to see

997
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: him do situationally. You want to see him be good

998
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: on third down. You want to see him be good

999
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: at short yardage. You want to see him really be

1000
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: good in the red zone where he can throw the

1001
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: ball in there and the scoring drives. You want to

1002
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: see him stay turnover free. You know that, you know,

1003
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: and I get it. I mean, I don't want to

1004
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: be mistake free, but you know, tipped passes and all

1005
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: that stuff, And we've seen Peterman get snake bit by

1006
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: that more than anybody. Where he throws the ball right

1007
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: and the guy joints off the guy's face mask. That

1008
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: happens to him as much as anybody. But it's not

1009
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: so much about me a mistake free. As you know,

1010
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: you can live with some mistakes, but as long as

1011
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: they're competitive and the guy's doing something smart with the football,

1012
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: even if it doesn't get executed just right, you can

1013
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: live with that. But it's about this quarterband. You know,

1014
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 1: I hate to go back in time, but Doug flute.

1015
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: He said it quarterback is about decision making, and if

1016
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: you can make the right decisions and put the ball

1017
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: in the hands of your guys, I mean that that

1018
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: says a lot about your ability to play. I'm looking

1019
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: for a quote from Sean McDermott yesterday, and here it is.

1020
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 1: I found it, and I think it's sort of capsualized

1021
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: exactly what you just said what we're looking for, he

1022
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: was asked. Yesterday. McDermott was asked, what are you looking

1023
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: for from Josh Ellen when you make your decision. Mcdermot's answer,

1024
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: I think we all know what it's supposed to look

1025
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: like and feel like, and I think he's right, well

1026
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: know right, we'll know Sunday at six o'clock whether Josh

1027
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: Allen should be the starter on Sunday, September Night. I

1028
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: think so, I really do when when when his turn

1029
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: is over this Sunday against the Bengals. Knowing what McDermot said,

1030
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: I believe it's true. I think we all know what

1031
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: it's supposed to look like and feel like. I think

1032
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: we'll know by the end of the game Sunday whether

1033
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: he's the guy from September Night. I hope we'll know

1034
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: one way or the other, whether he comes out he's aye,

1035
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: he's just not quite there yet, you know, or you know,

1036
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: we can all agree we look at and saying no,

1037
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know that was or we're saying, h.

1038
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: There's nothing that says he shouldn't be the guy, right.

1039
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: And that's why this is a good question today, which

1040
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: we'll get more of in the next hour, because we

1041
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: all do have a sense of what it should look like,

1042
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: what it should feel like for that guy, that rookie

1043
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: to be the starting quarterback. You can't just quantify and

1044
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: say he needs to complete seventy percent of his passes

1045
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: and two to one touchdown to interceptions and eighteen first

1046
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: sounds or third down conversions. As the colleges said. Yeah,

1047
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you'd like to see all of that, but

1048
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: I think more than anything, we will feel it and

1049
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: know it if he is ready to start. Do you

1050
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: agree with that? I do, And that's the thing, and

1051
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: I was just gonna write it down so I didn't

1052
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: forget is there anything about this game? On Sunday once

1053
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: it's all done and we're all laying in our beds

1054
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: that night, where we look at and we say, was

1055
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: there anything that says he should not be the guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what you're looking for. Is there anything that says

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Speaker 1: he shouldn't be the guy? I mean, because sooner or

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Speaker 1: later he's gonna be. Yeah. Is there anything that today

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Speaker 1: after or tomorrow Sunday after the game on against Cincinnati?

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Speaker 1: Is there something we saw in this game that says

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Speaker 1: this guy shouldn't be the guy. That's what you're looking for.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot to look for him. We're going to

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Speaker 1: continue to talk about it. We hope you joined the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Phone lines open eight oh three, five fifty and toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Steve

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Speaker 1: and I here until three after practice. We expect to

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Speaker 1: get Rod Streeter Builds wide receiver in here to talk

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Speaker 1: with him. Coming up in the next hour, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: hear from Andy Benoit from MMQB, who studies an awful

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Speaker 1: lot of film he's gone through the league with his

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Speaker 1: team previews. He says the Buffalo Bills are unlikely to

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Speaker 1: overachieve again this year. We'll talk with Andy about that.

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Speaker 1: Come on back. One Bill's Live presented by Kalada Health

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radiofalo Bills Radio

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Speaker 1: Network Sports date jup Day comes from one Bill's Drive

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00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: where the Buffalo Bills are busy at work in practice

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Speaker 1: as we speak outside on a beautiful day in Orchard Park,

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Speaker 1: getting set for preseason game number three against Cincinnati Bengals

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Speaker 1: that's coming up the Sunday four pm at New Airfield.

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Speaker 1: The roster moved for the Bills today. Veteran linebacker Keenan

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Speaker 1: Robinson has retired. Robinson signed with the Bills just before

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Speaker 1: training camp began. A former fourth round pick by Washington

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Speaker 1: in twenty twelve five seasons in the NFL, most of

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Speaker 1: them for Washington and the Giants. He's only twenty nine

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00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: years old. He had trouble moving up the depth chart

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00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: at linebacker for the Bills, both on the inside and outside,

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Speaker 1: a lot of second and thirteen reps, and Robinson is

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Speaker 1: the decided to retire. So the Bill's roster is down

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Speaker 1: one man, now down to eighty nine. They are just

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Speaker 1: about a week and a half away from the roster

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Speaker 1: cutdown to fifty three. Around the NFL, the Competition Committee

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Speaker 1: is recommending no changes to the helmet rule approved by

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00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: team owners earlier this offseason that decision made during a

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00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: conference called discussion by committee members last night. The dress,

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00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: among other things, what they learned about the new rule

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00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: through the first few weeks of preseason. The new rule

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00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: designed to enhanced player safety by removing the technique of

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00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 1: lowering the head to initiate and make contact with an Oppoma. Dad,

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Speaker 1: it's not going away. It is not going to change,

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Speaker 1: according to the NFL Competition Committee. Cardinals quarterback Josh Rosen

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00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: is day to day. He did not practice yesterday because

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Speaker 1: of an injured right hand, which might put his appearance

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00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: and Sunday's third preseason game in jeopardy. Injured his thumb

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Speaker 1: on his throwing hand Monday when he hit it on

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Speaker 1: a teammate's helmet. Adrian Peterson will get some snaps some

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Speaker 1: touches Friday, as he has just signed on as the

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Speaker 1: running back for the Washington Redskins. The Redskins getting set

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Speaker 1: set to play the Saints in the third preseason game.

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Speaker 1: Ohio State has suspended head football coach Irwin Meyer for

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Speaker 1: the first three games the season after a two week

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00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: investigation found that he mishandled domestic assault allegations made against

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Speaker 1: former Buckeyes's assistant coach Zack Smith and misrepresented what he

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00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 1: knew about the situation in a public statement in July,

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Speaker 1: and Bison baseball going on the first bitch just minutes

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00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: away the Bisons and Scranton Wilkesbury as they finish off

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Speaker 1: their season at the Downtown Ballpark or finish off their

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Speaker 1: series at the Downtown Ballpark. We're here talking Bills football

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Speaker 1: here until three. Rod Streeter Bills receivers, schedule to join

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Speaker 1: us when practice ends. Practice probably gonna end about forty

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Speaker 1: forty five minutes from now, joining us on the Subway

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Speaker 1: fresh Day Hotline. The frequent guest of the show, one

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00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: of the best guests we get on the show, always

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00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: because of his insight and in his the way he

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00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: grinds at video. Happy to have Andy Benoit from MMQB

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Speaker 1: on the Subway fresh Day Hotline with us. Andy's John

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Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve Task are here in Buffalo. Thanks for

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00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: joining us again. Hey guys, how are you. We're doing well?

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks for joining us. You're going through your

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Speaker 1: team previews and your preview of the Bills season. You

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Speaker 1: say they are unlikely to overachieve again, tell us how

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00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: you reach that conclusion. Eddy Well, I'll be with these previews,

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00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: you have to just treat them as projections. And so,

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00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: how does how do teams stack up to other teams

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00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season in terms of talent

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00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: and how it fits together and all that stuff. And

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Speaker 1: the Bills last year, I went back and read all

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Speaker 1: my Bills notes before writing the preview, my Bills twenty

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00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: seven team film notes, and it's a sounding they made

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00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,959
Speaker 1: the playoffs to be I'm not saying they didn't deserve

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00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: to make the fun They absolutely did. They Yeah, they

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00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: are in the spot, but they didn't have much of

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00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 1: a pass rush. Their secondary was good, not great at times,

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00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: questions a linebacker, and then offensively, very little firepower in

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00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,479
Speaker 1: the passing game and really a mediocre at best offensive line.

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00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: And they've got that same set of circumstances this year.

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00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 1: So if you're doing projections, I'm not high on the Bills.

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00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: But again, I'll bet I was not high on them

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00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: last year either, And somehow they were playing in January

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00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: to that point, Andy, I recall distinctly, and I may

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Speaker 1: have mentioned this to you late last season December, maybe

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00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: mid December. I walked into our control room during a

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00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: commercial break and we saw where the Bills were and

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00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: their playoff chances, and you know, you watch this team

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00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: pretty closely. Here I recall se into our crew. You know,

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00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 1: our numbers don't add up. We really shouldn't have name

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00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: this position based on what the numbers look like, both

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00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: on offense and on defense last season. And normally when

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00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: you get that, because yeah, their rankings were low and

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00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: a lot of key categories, and normally when you get that,

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Speaker 1: the film looks a little different than the stats, and

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Speaker 1: it's circumstantial. Well, I watched every Bill snap on film,

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Speaker 1: and the film looks very similar to the stats. You know,

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Speaker 1: the guy who gets lost in this conversation is Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 1: He did an unbelievable job getting them to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And I voted Mike Zimmer as Coach of the Year

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Speaker 1: last year, and I know McVay won in I understand

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00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: why McVay won it. I probably would have gone McDermott

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Speaker 1: as my runner up choice, even though the Bills had

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Speaker 1: a not the record the Rams had, because McDermott did

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Speaker 1: so much with less two he did it out yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott was one of the best in game coaches

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Speaker 1: in the NFL last year. What did you see there

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00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,760
Speaker 1: in Yeah, he did an excellent job with situations, one

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00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: thing he's always done really well with. Because we think

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00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: of coaching his game management, it is and that's a

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00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: big deal. But when you have to also look at

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Speaker 1: how the game plans are constructed and what McDermott has

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Speaker 1: done a great job with it, Leslie Frasier helps him

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00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: now is blitzing selectively? They're not a big blitz defense.

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00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,439
Speaker 1: They show a lot of blitz is obviously, you see

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00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: those double a gap looks with the linebackers walked up

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Speaker 1: over the center. But mcdermot's not a big time blitzer.

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Speaker 1: It's not his foundation. He plays a lot of his

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Speaker 1: own coverage. But when he does blitz, he has such

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00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: a great understanding of pass protection rules and how they're

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Speaker 1: gonna block based on the front, and how to exploit

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Speaker 1: that blocking. He might be as good as anyone in

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Speaker 1: the league at that. I'm sure it comes from learning

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Speaker 1: under Jim Johnson, who was kind of the godfather of

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Speaker 1: a lot of those dictating blitz approaches. He is very

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Speaker 1: Mcdermot's very, very good at getting the most out of

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Speaker 1: his blitzes. He was that way in Carolina too. Talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit Andy. I know you cover the league

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Speaker 1: all over and I was one of the things that

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Speaker 1: always comes up every year, particularly in December and January,

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Speaker 1: is new head coaching positions. You got a couple of

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Speaker 1: new head coaches around the league, most notably the guy

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Speaker 1: in Tennessee and Mike Vrabel and also Matt Patricia in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and talk to us a little bit about

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Speaker 1: those guys. What you see. I mean, there's are always

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Speaker 1: reasons for head coaching changes. Who do you see as

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Speaker 1: the rookie head coach who may have the most success

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Speaker 1: this year? Well, to keep it on those two guys,

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00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: they're both defensive guys. They both have very very experienced

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Speaker 1: coordinators working them, Paul Pascalone and then Vrabel's working in

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Speaker 1: Dants who was with New England and most recently Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: I think both of those guys, I mean, they could

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Speaker 1: be the answer to your broader question there because both

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Speaker 1: of those guys have the type of personnel to do

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Speaker 1: what they want to do. That that's a you need

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Speaker 1: to examine, is does the personnel fit the approach? Because

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Speaker 1: coaches and I know they talk about adjusting and doing

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Speaker 1: what our players do best. Coaches over the big picture

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Speaker 1: tend to do what they know best, that they coach

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Speaker 1: the schemes they've coached their lives, because that's what they're

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Speaker 1: experts in. And Rabel wants to He's a big blitzer

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Speaker 1: and he wants to use a lot of different fronts,

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Speaker 1: and he's got man the man cornerbacks to use, which

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Speaker 1: means he's got more bodies he can use in his

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Speaker 1: blitzes because those man the man corners can play one

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Speaker 1: on one. So I think that's a good fit. And

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Speaker 1: then Patricia's not a big blitzer at all. He wants

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Speaker 1: to line up and just basically play ben but don't

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00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: break and make you earn the yards and especially earn

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00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: the points is really what they focus on. And I

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Speaker 1: think he's got one of the by products of that

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Speaker 1: that approach is he's very versatile to how he uses

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Speaker 1: his secondary and his personnel and who lines up where

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00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: and who guards who at safety and corner. And he's

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Speaker 1: got a lot of versatile defensive backs there in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: So I'm optimistic for both of those teams. I think

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Speaker 1: Detroit a real playoff continuer. The NFC Tennessee might have

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00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: some questions offensively, but those are two first year coaches

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Speaker 1: that are set up to succeed under their terms pretty quickly.

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Speaker 1: I think hen't even know the NFL analyst Sports Illustrating

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Speaker 1: and m mcum on the Subway fresh take countline with

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Speaker 1: us you tweeted out yesterday. Stylistically, Josh Allen is similar

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Speaker 1: to Cam Newton. Tell me what you see there, Andy,

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00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: and now you make that comparison. Josh Allen's a big, strong,

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Speaker 1: power thrower with the occasional accuracy issues, and the debate

1241
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: is can that get cleaned up or not. I'm sure

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00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: the Bills in a private moment would say, we're gonna

1243
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: assume it's not going to get super cleaned up and

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00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna live with the ups and downs because the

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00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: throws he does make when he makes them are sensational.

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Speaker 1: So you've got a downfield power throw a guy like that,

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Speaker 1: you want to have him throwing downfield. It's not a

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00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: thinking dunk type of quarterback there. And then the other

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00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: part that gets overlooked with Allen is his mobility. He's

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00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: a big, powerful runner. He's not quite Cam Newton in

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00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: that sense. Newton's a better athlete. And then not by far.

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00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: But Newton's a better athlete, a more dynamic player. But

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00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: you can Allan's good enough that you can do the

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00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: same stuff with him that the Panthers did with Newton.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure that wasn't lost on those former Panther

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00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: guys McDermott and Brandon Bean when they made that pick

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00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: for Alan. And you talk about the Bills passing game

1258
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: will have to be heavily manufactured because of a lack

1259
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: of talent both on the offensive line and at wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean to be heavily manufactured? What does

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Speaker 1: that mean to call it a passing game manufactured like that? Well,

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00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: it means you have to define the reads and win

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00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: through scheme. So, for example, the Packers, who are a

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Speaker 1: team with an extremely talented QB and for many years

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Speaker 1: and we'll see about this year, but for many years

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Speaker 1: they've had very talented receivers. You'll notice they line up

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Speaker 1: a lot in balanced spread formations, which is about a

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Speaker 1: pretty predictable approach. Offensively, it presents you theoretically the most

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Speaker 1: options for a progression read in the passing game. You

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Speaker 1: just got guys all across the field. Your eyes take

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Speaker 1: you through the guys. But those receivers have to be

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Speaker 1: good enough to win on their own. They're all by

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Speaker 1: themselves out there in space. So if you have receivers

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Speaker 1: who are not good enough to win on their own,

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Speaker 1: you've got to join them together, and you have to

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Speaker 1: build one guy's route off the other guy's route, and

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Speaker 1: one guy's route might just be a true decoy. And

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Speaker 1: it's less reads and less options, but they're more defined

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Speaker 1: and they're designed to beat expected coverages or anticipated coverages.

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Speaker 1: So teams that put their receivers in motion a lot

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Speaker 1: or cluster their receivers close together in the formation, those

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Speaker 1: are the teams that manufacture their passing game. The other

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Speaker 1: thing they do is they throw the ball out of

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Speaker 1: running formation, and their running game and passing game have

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Speaker 1: a lot of overlapping similarities. You have to play that

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Speaker 1: way if you don't have much talent at wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: and you've gone through the league like you did with

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Speaker 1: the Bills, with your preseason predictions and preseason analysis on

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Speaker 1: the Rams, you see you say the NFL's most dynamic team.

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Speaker 1: Question mark? Why is there a question mark there? What

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Speaker 1: are you looking for from the Rams? I think the

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Speaker 1: offense there's no question mark as long as ever and

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Speaker 1: he say it's about every team, but as long as

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Speaker 1: everyone stays healthy. The Rams are not super deep offensively,

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Speaker 1: but their first string is as electrifying as anybody's first unit.

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Speaker 1: The question for me is on the defensive vand and

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Speaker 1: I understand they have more star power now than they

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Speaker 1: did a year ago, and that's that shouldn't be dismissed.

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Speaker 1: Those cornerbacks they traded for a Key to leave and

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Speaker 1: Marcus Peters, they're the two most aggressive corners in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And what they did Asanse Samuel for the Patriots used

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Speaker 1: to play this way. These guys play a lot of

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Speaker 1: off coverage matchup coverage, so if they go man to man,

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Speaker 1: they're not just up on the receiver. They play with

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Speaker 1: a cushion because they want to have faith and room

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Speaker 1: to read the route and read the QB and jump

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Speaker 1: the ball. They're not just looking they get pass breakups

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Speaker 1: or stops. They want interceptions. The problem with guys like that,

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Speaker 1: not the problem, but just the downside because they're explosive playmakers,

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Speaker 1: but when they're wrong, they get susceptible to double moves

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Speaker 1: in downfield and they get beat late in the route

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Speaker 1: and we've seen that over the years of Peters and

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Speaker 1: to leave not but enough that it counts. And the

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Speaker 1: way you combat that, the way you ignore that as

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Speaker 1: a defense is if your pass rush can force the

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Speaker 1: quarterback to throw the ball on your schedule, that's how

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Speaker 1: those guys jump the routes. I'm not overly sold on

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Speaker 1: the Rams pass rush. I like in Domic and Sue

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Speaker 1: of course, and Aaron Donald I'm as high on him

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Speaker 1: as everybody else is. They don't have a lot of

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Speaker 1: true proven edge venders there in Los Angeles, and if

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Speaker 1: they can't collapse the pocket from the perimeter very often,

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Speaker 1: they're going to have an inconsistent pass rush, and I

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Speaker 1: think that could make for some inconsistent cornerback play. So

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm overthinking it. I talked away to Phillips about it.

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Speaker 1: He certainly thought I was overthinking it, But I don't

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Speaker 1: think the Rams have great edge rushers, to be quite frank,

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Speaker 1: What are some of the things that you look around

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Speaker 1: the league that you see trending that may start to

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Speaker 1: become more more prevalent in offenses and or defenses. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it happens every year that for a while it looked

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Speaker 1: like running backs were going to go the way of

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Speaker 1: the dinosaur. I mean you never nobody was taking them.

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Speaker 1: And now now you've got guys like Dodd Curly, se

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Speaker 1: Quon Barkley. You go down the list of great backs

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Speaker 1: in the league that are really starting to make a resurgence,

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Speaker 1: and Alvin Kamara, even Lashawn McCoy here in Buffalo, there's

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Speaker 1: guys who are actually making hay as running backs and

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Speaker 1: they're becoming Are they on the way back? Is that

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Speaker 1: one of the trends you seeing or do you see

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Speaker 1: something else? I could see that. I certainly could see

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Speaker 1: running backs being more of a factor. What's interesting, like

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Speaker 1: let's say Gurley, for example, he was a big time

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Speaker 1: receiving weapon for the Rams last year, but when you

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Speaker 1: look at his skill set, he's not a big time receiver.

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Speaker 1: He's not a particularly loose or nimble runner. He's kind

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Speaker 1: of a straight ahead guy to tremendous north south. But

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Speaker 1: those great receivers tend to be the ones more like

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Speaker 1: Lashaw McCoy that can change directions east and west and

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Speaker 1: get open on routes. That was not girly, and yet

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Speaker 1: he still was. They may have led the league in

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Speaker 1: white or receiver yards for a running back because the

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Speaker 1: Rams did such a good job of designing plays for

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Speaker 1: him anyway based on other people's routes. They would basically

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Speaker 1: use the receiver's routes to create opportunities for Gurley. And

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Speaker 1: I think we'll see more teams do stuff like that. Basically,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about getting more creative with your screen game.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs did the same thing with Kareem Hunt, who's

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Speaker 1: a good, not great individual receiving talent, but he was

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Speaker 1: very effective in their passing game at times. We could

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Speaker 1: see that. That's as a great example the kind of

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Speaker 1: thing Buffalo would need to do because that off that's

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Speaker 1: some of your deficiencies at wide receiver, and it also

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Speaker 1: inherently it gets the ball to the running back in space.

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Speaker 1: He might not be very far down field, but he's

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Speaker 1: in space, and LaShaun McCoy in space. To me, he's

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Speaker 1: as good as anyone in the NFL. Still there, Andy,

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Speaker 1: I read you're kind of complete league preview, and yet

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Speaker 1: an interesting note in there about RPO's run pass options

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Speaker 1: the most you call it the most studied tactic by

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Speaker 1: coaches this offseason. Would you say the trend is bigger

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Speaker 1: than that? What do you have in mind there. Well,

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Speaker 1: urpos are just one facet of a growing trend, and

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Speaker 1: the growing trend is finding ways to design plays that

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Speaker 1: manipulate unblocked front seven defenders. So basically, you don't block

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Speaker 1: a d lineman or you don't block the linebacker by design,

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Speaker 1: and you use the play design to take care of

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Speaker 1: that guy. So a read option is a great example.

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Speaker 1: You don't block the d end you freeze him by

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Speaker 1: giving them the option of quarterback or a handoff or

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01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: the quarterback keeps it. That kind of thing. We're seeing

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Speaker 1: more teams do that stuff. Read option came along a

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Speaker 1: few years ago. RPOs now are what they're doing where

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Speaker 1: it's basically reading an unblocked linebacker, but more teams are

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01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: also using jet sweep and ghost reverses, stuff that changes

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Speaker 1: the formation after the snap, and then they do it

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Speaker 1: in such a way that the defense has to freeze

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Speaker 1: and read it before they can react. So everyone always

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Speaker 1: talks about box count and numbers game. You gotta win

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01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: the numbers game. While the offense is figured out ways

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Speaker 1: to win the numbers game. Without winning the numbers game,

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01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: they can get seven guys blocked with only six blockers

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01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: because they'll freeze that seventh guy rather than put a

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Speaker 1: body on him. Interesting in your season preview, you got

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Speaker 1: the Bills down for just four wins this year, which

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Speaker 1: obviously seems low to us. What we'll have to happen

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Speaker 1: for the Bills to maybe get to where they were

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Speaker 1: last year somewhere in the neighborhood of seven, eight nine

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Speaker 1: wins something like that. Yeah, I think they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to have some opportunistic turnovers, which is one thing they

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01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: did very well last year, and those safety's Poyer and

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01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: Hype were very good for them. So getting turnovers always

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01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: as it's true for everybody, of course, but it's probably

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01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: a little more important for the Bills. The running game

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01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: needs to be foundational, needs to be having more consistent

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01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: than it was last year on a week to week basis,

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01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: and when we'll see if it can be at offensive

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01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: lines are concerned for me, But running game and turnovers

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Speaker 1: basically we're talking about winning through defense. Got us thinking

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Speaker 1: up here. Yeah, thanks Andy, good to talk. Have a

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Speaker 1: great season. I know we'll talk again. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thanks guys. Andy Benoit he is NFL analyst

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Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated and MMQB got the Bills at four and

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Speaker 1: twelve in his preseason predictions, which seems low. He's got

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons winning the Super Bowl over the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: He says the Patriots are going to drop a little bit.

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01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: Andy is good. Stephen, you don't like Aaron say four

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Speaker 1: wins for the Bills. I think he's low. I do think,

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01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: and he mentions the McDermott factor. I think Sean McDermott

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01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 1: is a bigger factor than most people outside Buffalo consider

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Speaker 1: when they start to evaluate the Buffalo Bills. And I

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01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: think people here in Buffalo kind of are I think,

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Speaker 1: to a certain extent on you and I do. I

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Speaker 1: depend on what happened last year as given being the

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Speaker 1: barometer of what he's gonna be able to accomplish this year.

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Speaker 1: And generally speaking, I mean there's a lot of ins

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Speaker 1: and outs in specifics that we talk about every day,

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01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: but generally speaking, last year, this roster was less talented

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01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: than it is we I feel this year. I feel better.

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01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a better, more talented

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01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: roster this year than it was a year ago. That's

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01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 1: a really good question. And if and if Sean McDermott

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Speaker 1: gets the same side type of performance because of the culture,

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01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: because of his ability to coach him up, and because

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01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: to motivate him and get him to play together, and

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01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: all the stuff that forced or caused them to overachieve

1437
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: last year, if he does the same thing this year,

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01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: where they should be better than they were last year. Now, obviously,

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01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: unlike Andy, Benoit says, the one thing that drove them

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01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,719
Speaker 1: last year. I've said this a bunch that turnover margin

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01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: was huge in the first half of the season. That

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01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 1: is something that is A it's totally unpredictable, and b

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01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: there's no doubt it is completely direct, a direct correlation

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01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: to winning. If you can win the turnover battle, you're

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01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: gonna win the game a lot. And that's what the

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01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 1: Bills did last year. And it was in large part

1447
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 1: to that secondary that everybody now thinks is one of

1448
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 1: the best in the league. We didn't know it then.

1449
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: They were all four remember they were all four new

1450
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: last year to the team, and they turned out to

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01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: be a huge plus. Here's what I've never been able

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01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: to reconcile. People look at turnovers and say, well, that's

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01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: just luck. You got your takeaways. I don't know if

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01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: it's just luck. I think there's a style of defense

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01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: you play, and Buffalo plays it zone defense. People around

1456
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: the football there's an attitude with which you play, and

1457
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: I think Buffalo plays it, and a focus on takeaways

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01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 1: and a focus on a turning the ball over. They

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01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: had the good fortune to have Tyrod Taylor, who never

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01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 1: turned the ball over as their quarterback. He's gone obviously,

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01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: And maybe they're more turnovers, more interceptions in the offering

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01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: with this quarterback group. I would suspect there will be,

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01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's just luck. People look at

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01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 1: the turnovers and say, well, you got lucky last year

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01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 1: were turnovers. I don't know. It's not luck, but and

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01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 1: it's always part of the plan. But they executed extremely

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01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 1: well last year. Can they replicate that? It might be difficult. Yeah,

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01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: but I sent thing too. And you remember you said

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Speaker 1: that the Bills won the turnover ratio last year in

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01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 1: the first half of that season because because Tyrod never

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01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 1: turned it over. And by the same token, that's part

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Speaker 1: of why Tyrod's not here anymore. They were so conservative

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Speaker 1: and so safe with the football it was almost you

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Speaker 1: left you felt like you were leaving too much on

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Speaker 1: the table. Offensively, you weren't making tough throws into tight windows.

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Speaker 1: You weren't getting nice completions on second and eight. You know,

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Speaker 1: you weren't getting those completions down the field across the

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Speaker 1: middle of the field. You weren't making a lot of

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Speaker 1: first downs on first or second down. You know, you

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01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 1: had to wait until third down where Tyrod would pull

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01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 1: it down and and and get the first down himself,

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01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: or you know, hit the deep ball or hit an

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01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 1: out route. So it was at times frustrating, But I

1484
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: think that's the give and take that this that's gonna

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01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 1: make this offense, and this team looked much different than

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Speaker 1: it did last year. Our thanks to Andy Benoit of

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Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated and MMQB for joining us on the Subway

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Speaker 1: Fresh Take Hotline, Subway Eat Fresh, Steve and I coming

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Speaker 1: back with more. One Bill's Live presented by Kellia Health.

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Speaker 1: We're coming to here from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. We are in this together. Always understands it's wasted.

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Speaker 1: Stay fast, stay fast. We don't want anybody in this

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01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 1: room to Bill. We want everybody in this room to succeeded.

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01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 1: Don't know where we get better, make each other better.

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01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 1: So compete. Everybody can get on the same page when

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Speaker 1: it comes to that. We got a chance. We got

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01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 1: a chance because at the end of the day, you

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01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 1: gotta get eleven guys going in the same direction. Embedded

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's embedded episode number two came out last night.

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Speaker 1: I'm facebook watch, Steve and I Steve and I had

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Speaker 1: a chance to uh watch it yesterday and it's up

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Speaker 1: there now facebook watch on YouTube Bill's website. Embedded Part two.

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Speaker 1: It was you liked it a lot better than episode one, Steve,

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01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: I did, because it gave you a chance to get

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01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 1: more of the players, more of the nuts and bolts

1506
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: of what the coaching staff goes through in their evaluations.

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01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: You get some some stuff on their personnel meetings, and

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01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: it's just it's just more interesting to me this first one.

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Speaker 1: The first episode was about Sean McDermot. He kind of

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Speaker 1: gave you almost a hype video of what his leadership skills,

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01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: which are which are a bunch? I mean, it's really

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Speaker 1: fun to see that this one is more the nuts

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01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 1: and bolts of what it takes to put the team

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01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: together and gives you an idea of what the coaches

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01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 1: go through. It it's a lot of fun and the

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Speaker 1: players too. You should check out embed It again. You

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Speaker 1: can look at it at Facebook, watch it and YouTube,

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Speaker 1: and the Buffalo Bill's website. Two episodes done, two more

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01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 1: to come. It is an inside all access look at

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Speaker 1: the Bills in training camp, look and listen to, including

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Speaker 1: a lot of focus on the defense. In this week's

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Speaker 1: episode of Embedded, Bill Tierlink, who is the Bill's defensive

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01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: on line coach, talked about Trent Murphy and then Trent

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Speaker 1: Murphy addressed the team in a meeting scenario. Here's what

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01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: that looked and sounded like. I'm embedded last night. Trent

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Speaker 1: is up next, and I know it's an asterisk because

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01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: he hasn't played in a year, but he'll be fine.

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01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 1: He's a smart he's one hundred percent bought in. He

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01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 1: looks out forever guys, He's always looking for new things

1530
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: to try. He's he's football all day, every day. He

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01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: loves that guy. Trip. Just share with a little bit

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01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 1: about how seventeen changed and what has it changed about

1533
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: you approach to the game based on what happened in seventeen,

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01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: Going in my contract year, having really honestly the training

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01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: camp in my life, like can't be blocked, beating everybody.

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01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 1: I got a contract year, it's gonna be great. I

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01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: get Devin did just six player the first preseason game.

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Speaker 1: Someone does their job and basically just blast fullback into

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01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: my knee. Tears everything. Damn it's heart broken, Like man,

1540
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,560
Speaker 1: I have about my family, do all these things. So

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01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 1: you just can't take you for granted. You never know

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01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: what the place is gonna be your last. That wasn't

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01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 1: my last play, but it could have been, as it

1544
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 1: was worse, and so got out to day, got out,

1545
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 1: get in tomorrow, do it for the guy next to you,

1546
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 1: do for your family, does name on your back, for

1547
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: the team. Just enjoy it. Trent Murphy his voice there

1548
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 1: talking about his injury last year. You know what struck

1549
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: me about that, Steve two how matter of fact he

1550
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: was as significant injury he took out his twenty seventeen season,

1551
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: still fighting to get back in the Bill's lineup, and

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01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: yet he refers to it as yeah, guy doing his job, fullback,

1553
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:17,719
Speaker 1: you know, hit me in the knee, doing well. Somebody

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01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 1: blocked a fullback into his knee. Somebody else doing their job,

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01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: and it was Yeah, it's amazing to see a guy

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01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: say he seemed to be talking about it, kind of

1557
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 1: just disconnected from it, Yeah, not realizing that the guy

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01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 1: just spent ten or twelve months getting ready to get

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01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 1: back on the field to try it again, and he's

1560
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: been struggling with a growing injury here of late. But

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01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 1: you can tell what the coaching staff thinks of him

1562
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: by their evaluation of him. They're waiting, They're they're confident

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01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: he's going to be on the at least when this

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01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 1: was shot, they were confident he's going to be on

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01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: the field. And and to hear a guy, to hear

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01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: a guy talk about himself like that and a matter

1567
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: of fact and getting ready to do it and urging

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01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 1: the other guys to play well too, speaks well for

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01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: his teammates and what he means to them. And Betted

1570
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: checking out. It's on Facebook, watch YouTube, and on Buffalo

1571
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 1: bills dot com. Episode two one up last night, Episode

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Speaker 1: three coming up next Wednesday at eight o'clock embedded Buffalo

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01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: Bills embedded. It's pretty good show. We're gonna break, We're

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01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: coming back, Rod Streeters gonna join us Bills wide receiver

1575
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 1: when we return. One Bills Live from one Bill's Drive

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01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to the show One

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01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 1: Bills Live. John Murphy, seadcaster, joined in studio just off

1578
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 1: the practice field Bills betteran wide receiver Rod Street or

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01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 1: welcome Rod. Good to have you here. Appreciate you're having

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01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: me today. It is so good to see you with

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01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,560
Speaker 1: a smile on your face, healthy walking around. That was,

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01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, in the big picture, a preseason injury, and

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01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:50,560
Speaker 1: who knows what your season would have been, but that

1584
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: was a crushing injury for Bills fans. I think when

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01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: you got her down there in Philadelphia, I heard. I

1586
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: was excited to be here. You know, Bills gave me

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01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 1: opportunity and I was having a really camping and that happened,

1588
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: you know, threw off my game a little bit, but

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm just happy to be back here healthy

1590
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 1: and ready to go. You and I were, I'm sorry,

1591
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 1: you hear it's a toe injury, and immediately you kind

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01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: of minimized that where you're gonna ask that question. We

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01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: were talking because everybody said, well, a toe injury, and

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01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, a whole year. Yeah, let me

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01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 1: tell like my hands got broken like nine times. You

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01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: can play through those, YEA. The most underrated injuries for

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01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 1: the effect they have on your ability to play or

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01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 1: foot ankle, foot and ankle injury. You break a finger,

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01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: you can play, break you can't. You can tape up

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01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 1: your fingers. You're back out there toes, you can't move.

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01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: It's hard. I lost all my explosion. It took me

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01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 1: a while. Just once I was healed and my foot

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01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:41,560
Speaker 1: was totally healed up, took me a while just to

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Speaker 1: be able to run routes again, you know, at full speed,

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01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 1: cut in that twenty yards and and every time we'll cut,

1606
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 1: was still hurt. So it took me a while. And

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01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 1: the toe injuries are very serious. But you're through it now,

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01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 1: right through it all good? Yeah? Yeah, did you when

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01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 1: did you feel one hundred percent totally ready to return?

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01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: Was it camp? Was it OTA's many camp? Um one

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01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: hundred percent? I want say, like towards the end of

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01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: the regular season, when they brought me into workout, I

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01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 1: was going to sign back. That's when I felt really good.

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01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 1: But even then it wasn't like totally totally hell. It

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01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 1: still felt a little pain, but OTAs, I felt really good,

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01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 1: and after that I was I was, I was one

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01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 1: hundred percent. And the new schedule We were talking just

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01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 1: before the break the new schedules and I kept you fresh,

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01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: and we were talking about the schedule where yeah, they

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01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: kind of shut it down about seven o'clock, give you

1621
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 1: a chance to wind down. We were talking to it.

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01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 1: Really for all the criticism and the old guys like me,

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01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: give it like no two days. You guys got a

1624
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 1: soft recovery has really helped guys play better more consistently,

1625
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 1: I think because of the fact they do get rest. Yeah,

1626
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: they give us a plenty of time, you know. And

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01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 1: camp we had a we were done around seven thirty

1628
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 1: and we were able to go back to the room,

1629
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 1: get some sleep, wind down. You know, it takes takes

1630
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 1: a little bit of time after practice to cool down

1631
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: and ask you fall asleep. But that's what's the most important,

1632
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 1: you know, going out there, being able to perform every

1633
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 1: day and most importantly in the game. So we feel

1634
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 1: really fresh going into the game. And that's all due

1635
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: to the coaches with the great schedules with Bills White, Shiver,

1636
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 1: Rod Streeter. Okay, fresh in the game. You came up

1637
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 1: with you and Josh probably the play of the first

1638
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: two games in the preseason, talk about that touchdown catch

1639
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 1: it Cleveland last first man. That was a great blocking,

1640
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: great protection, and great throw by Josh. You know, I

1641
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 1: just ran the end line route, did my job, and

1642
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 1: I look back, I see Murphy pick up a block

1643
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: that came I mean a bliss that came through Josh Vey.

1644
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: Like four people stepped up looking it was blocked. Well,

1645
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: Josh was dodging guys like like like he was in

1646
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 1: a paintball match. Yeah, but he didn't step up and

1647
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 1: make the throw. An amazing part is he either knew

1648
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 1: or saw you coming, Yeah, and whipped it right at

1649
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 1: your face. I mean he threw it in there walking

1650
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: up the pocket. Yeah. And that's exactly how we practice,

1651
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 1: you know, we want our guys to continue to run

1652
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 1: down the end line and just be friendly for the

1653
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: court that make sure we're gonna step out. But it

1654
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 1: was very impressive that he was threw all that chaos

1655
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 1: and craziness. He was still looking down field and was

1656
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 1: able to find me That balling almost separate ball that

1657
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 1: Josh Allen throws gets there in a hurry, doesn't Man.

1658
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 1: That's how we like it though. You know, if it

1659
01:18:58,120 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 1: gets there in a hurry, it's quicker for us and

1660
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 1: defenders to knock it down. I know what you mean.

1661
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: You get out there and you're you're standing there. The

1662
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: worst thing you can do is set there weight on

1663
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: the ball to get there. It's like, yeah, come on, man,

1664
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: let's you know you're you're looking around at these guys

1665
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 1: closing on you. You don't have to do that with

1666
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: with Josh. Yeah he can sling there is there and uh,

1667
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 1: we're happy to have him and the rest of the quarterbacks.

1668
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 1: And you know what else told me? That play told

1669
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 1: me not only does it get there and hurty, but

1670
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 1: he knows it's gonna get He has a confidence to

1671
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: dodge around traffic. He's not really balanced or you know,

1672
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: flat footed or you're even set up right when he

1673
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 1: threw us that pass, but he knows he's got the cannon.

1674
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: He out there where he wants to put it. Yeah,

1675
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 1: that's what was impressive. He definitely knew his arm strength,

1676
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: he knew what he had to do and just execute

1677
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 1: it to perfect him. So tell us how your camp's going.

1678
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 1: You're feeling good? Tell us about you know, you go

1679
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 1: out there with all these guys and um, you know

1680
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to do because of Kelvin and all

1681
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 1: those guys up. You're gonna cover some kicks. You have

1682
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: to do everything you can do. You're trying to contribute

1683
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 1: on all facets of your game, right, Yeah, just like

1684
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 1: we was talking about special teams. You know, I want

1685
01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: to be a force probably my game after a lot

1686
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 1: of guys like you, guys like Taiwan Jones who can

1687
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 1: play special teams, running back, defensive back. So wherever this

1688
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:07,759
Speaker 1: team needs me, you know, I'm just trying to make plays.

1689
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: If it's that gunner, if it's that wide out, if

1690
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 1: it's that prompt protect, whatever it is, I just want

1691
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 1: to be available. One of the things I've noticed too,

1692
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: and I didn't really see this as a player because

1693
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 1: I was always kind of wrapped up my own thing.

1694
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 1: I was always happy to be there. You know, the

1695
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 1: attitude of wanting to play whatever they ask you to play.

1696
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 1: Guys switching positions. You have guys who want to cover kicks,

1697
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 1: who want to be on kickoffered, who want to do

1698
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 1: everything they can to make the team. Then you have

1699
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 1: you really do, and even at this level, have guys

1700
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: are like special. It's crazy, man, It's crazy. Yeah. And

1701
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: then his football. I love playing football, so I've been

1702
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 1: playing football in my life. I was a safety before,

1703
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 1: so I'm not scared to tackle. You know, I've played

1704
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,640
Speaker 1: every position, so if it's tackling or running out on

1705
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 1: coverage or whatever, I'm here to play football. When were

1706
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 1: your safety and junior college? Right at out of state?

1707
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 1: It's about thirty forty minutes. So I started my career

1708
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 1: there at safety. It wasn't too good. That's why I

1709
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 1: switched the receiver. I was good at picking the ball,

1710
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: I was terrible at tackle. How did you make your

1711
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 1: way from New Jersey your hometown up to Alfred State.

1712
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 1: I had a friend from my high school go to

1713
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: junior college. I took a year off. He went to

1714
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 1: JUCO and I just was working and see him, see

1715
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 1: him playing and stuff at Alfred State, and I was like, hmm,

1716
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: maybe I should get back into this football thing. And

1717
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:21,600
Speaker 1: at the time, I didn't really have no office, so

1718
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: I was like, Juco is the only really route I

1719
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: could take at the time. Did you play ever play

1720
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 1: across the street here area? Yeah? We play Area. I

1721
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: had a couple of catches there. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

1722
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 1: When you'd leave here, you probably look always look over there,

1723
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 1: Like man, I was over there looking in like, man,

1724
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 1: look at me now, right, Yeah, three hundred yards and

1725
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: may as well be a million miles because I did

1726
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 1: the same thing. I went to community college myself, and

1727
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 1: there's a ton of guys and in my work for CBS,

1728
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,759
Speaker 1: I go through rosters every week. You see. It always

1729
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: a handful of guys that came through the community college.

1730
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 1: And it was it was a great experience for you, right, Oh,

1731
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: it definitely was. Man. It really taught me how to

1732
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: become a man, how to really go out there ground

1733
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: for what you want, because junior college isn't the route

1734
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 1: most people take, and this is it's a grind, Like

1735
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: you really got to want it to come out as

1736
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 1: Juko grades wise and football wise. You really got to

1737
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 1: be on your on your job. Junior college at Alfred

1738
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 1: and then college at Temple and then prior to last year,

1739
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 1: your NFL career is mostly out west, right, Yeah, it's

1740
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 1: just going Oakland. Yeah, you never had to deal with

1741
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 1: the snow. Yeah, it's a different here Eastern football. But

1742
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 1: have you noticed or what do you think? Oh, I

1743
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 1: mean just the weather. I think it's it's tough guys

1744
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:27,719
Speaker 1: out here, you know, we gotta deal with the snow.

1745
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 1: You gotta deal with all the elements. It's always sunny

1746
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 1: at Callie, so you really don't experience the snow out

1747
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 1: there like that. You've been out here. You were here

1748
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 1: last year during training camp and you kind of hung

1749
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 1: out to rehab, so you went through all of this.

1750
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 1: You watch that snow game. But also I want to

1751
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 1: ask it, you've been around this team with Sean McDermott

1752
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: last year, through that, through the playoff run and all

1753
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 1: that stuff. What's different about this team? What's the different?

1754
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: Is there a different vibe? What's this team gonna look like?

1755
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 1: That's gonna we're gonna notice it is different from last year. Man.

1756
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,679
Speaker 1: I think it's just a bigger family. You know, guys

1757
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:58,560
Speaker 1: the receiver room we were talking about that. You know,

1758
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 1: we're all very close guys, we're coach friends. We all

1759
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 1: hang out together, and you just see like it comes.

1760
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: It starts with coach McDermot, the owners and everyone. They

1761
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 1: preach family. You know, they let your kids come in,

1762
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 1: they let the families come in and hang out on

1763
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 1: at camping. That just build as a team, you know,

1764
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 1: it helps us come together and it's just really cool

1765
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 1: to see us all grow as a team and grow

1766
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 1: as a family. And do you find that even in

1767
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 1: your second year here, is it even deeper than it

1768
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: was a year ago? Definitely? Definitely. I mean we're doing

1769
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: more team activities. We just did a skate room two

1770
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 1: days ago. So you see escape room. Yeah, when you

1771
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 1: go there, who's in your crew? And my crew? Who

1772
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: do I have? I had passed the land I had?

1773
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: Who did I have a couple of rookies for? It

1774
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 1: was a bunch of rookies guys, So I had to

1775
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: take leave. Taiwan was in there. But they give you clues.

1776
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 1: It's very hard. They give you a whole bunch of clues.

1777
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: It's all throughout the room and you get like an

1778
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:54,759
Speaker 1: hour to escape, and um we escaped about with fifteen

1779
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 1: minutes left. So it's pretty cool. You gotta work together

1780
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 1: as a team. That's another thing, come together. Yeah. Games

1781
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 1: are are big for your I know we talked to

1782
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,679
Speaker 1: you about this last summer, right, you were a designer game?

1783
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 1: Arn't design? That is like, you're what's your major and

1784
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 1: are you still taking courses? Yeah? I got about about

1785
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: four more months left. I'll be able to get my

1786
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 1: degree from Art Institute of Pittsburgh. I'm doing a game

1787
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 1: art and design, which is pretty much animation. When I'm done,

1788
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 1: I either hopefully work for Pixar, hopefully work for Disney.

1789
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 1: And I'm a big gamer like I love Fortnite, I

1790
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 1: love Madden, I love Call of Duty. That's why I

1791
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: do them my off time. So if anybody's out there watching,

1792
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 1: you know, let's let's get some game. He's gonna get it.

1793
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: Are you gonna get into E sports? I mean you're

1794
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 1: gonna do that? Yeah? I would love to. I would

1795
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: definitely love to do that if, um, if that's where

1796
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,719
Speaker 1: it takes me. I mean, I'm competitive, so I'm always

1797
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: looking to win, So if they invite me there, I'll

1798
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 1: probably take it serious when I'm done and liking the

1799
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 1: bills me to get it says if you could trade

1800
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 1: places with one person for one day, who would it beat? You?

1801
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:51,560
Speaker 1: Said Walt Disney. Well exactly, I mean, man, he is

1802
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,639
Speaker 1: the man. But he've been the man for fifty years.

1803
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 1: You see his work still around, you know, you see

1804
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 1: all his work that he created years ago. Still you know,

1805
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,600
Speaker 1: my family, my little cousins watch it, and it's just

1806
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 1: crazy how one guy can make an impact like that.

1807
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:08,639
Speaker 1: So for one day, as he want to be able

1808
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: to see what he's seemed back then and just you know,

1809
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 1: his thought process, what was it like. I read a

1810
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 1: really good biography of Walt Disney a while ago, ten

1811
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 1: years ago, and the one thing that impressed me was

1812
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 1: that even when he got successful making a ton of

1813
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: money in the Disney studios taken off, he got right

1814
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 1: in the animation room with the artists. I mean, he

1815
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:28,600
Speaker 1: was an artist and he wanted to be around the

1816
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,560
Speaker 1: It was kind of a secret for his success. Just

1817
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 1: he never left really the base of his business. That's

1818
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 1: was cool. Man. He was always always working, no matter what. Man,

1819
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 1: and he loved it. Yeah, gotta love it. Um quarterback.

1820
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 1: You know, now here comes a third preseason game and

1821
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 1: the third starting quarterback. What have you seen from these three?

1822
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 1: And what do you think of John Shallon so far? Competitors?

1823
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,679
Speaker 1: You know, they're all hungry to get better, um, staying

1824
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 1: at the practice, staying at the meetings. There they're the

1825
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:54,640
Speaker 1: last people to leave the room. So, I mean, these

1826
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 1: guys are hungry and they've they've been improving. You see

1827
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 1: one guy's in aj'son. He he's driving the ball down

1828
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 1: the field. You got jobs comes in and they comes in,

1829
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 1: he's scoring touchdowns. I mean, we got three hungry guys

1830
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: ready to compete for the starting job, man, and it's

1831
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 1: just making them better. It's making each of them hungrier.

1832
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 1: He's making each of them stay on top of the game.

1833
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: And then then whoever's wing the job. You know, I'm

1834
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 1: gonna be very excited. It's a quarterback battle and there

1835
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 1: is a receiver battle too, Right, you gotta acknowledge that

1836
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 1: as you look around your particular position group, right, Yeah, definitely.

1837
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 1: I mean, we got some talented guys. They just bought

1838
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 1: in CCMO man, Corey Coleman. He could fly man. He

1839
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 1: made a couple of plays out there today. We were

1840
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 1: just like, whoa, this dude can run. Kelvin Dre we

1841
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 1: got Curly, we got we got a lot of guys

1842
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 1: and obviously he'sa the younger guys in there. So it's

1843
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 1: a lot of competition, and you know, it's really helping

1844
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 1: us older guys stay you know, in the game and

1845
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 1: stay working hard because you know, we gotta compete every

1846
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 1: day with these guys. What would be the strongest case

1847
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 1: you could make to be part of that group moving forward?

1848
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 1: You after September first, definitely, making plays. You know, like

1849
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:54,600
Speaker 1: I said, you gotta be versatile wherever they need you.

1850
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 1: If he's scoring in the rezume make an attack with

1851
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: that gunner running down them kickoff. I feel like I've

1852
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 1: done all that so far, and I'll continue to do

1853
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 1: my part. I love the way you focus on special

1854
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 1: teams too, because when you get to you know, the fourth,

1855
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 1: the third, fourth, fifth, guys at any position. Really you

1856
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 1: gotta contribute, right, Yeah, that's what comes out to You

1857
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 1: gotta bring value to the team. However you can help

1858
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 1: this team win. The more you could do, that's what's

1859
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: most important. It's not like little football where you know

1860
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 1: everybody has to participate and everybody's got to contribute. You're

1861
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: gonna play and you're gonna have a role on the team.

1862
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 1: On game day, everty five guys are on the field

1863
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: and they got to play its most important role. You

1864
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 1: gotta role. You got a job to do, and whoever

1865
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: it is that they want me to, you know, I'm available.

1866
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 1: They always say the preseason game number three is the

1867
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: dress rehearsal. Do you feel that to be the case

1868
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 1: going into the Yeah, I'm sure we'll be the older

1869
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 1: guys and stars will be playing I think it to

1870
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:44,560
Speaker 1: the third quarter. They usually want to come out to

1871
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 1: halftime see how you can get that first and second drive.

1872
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:50,719
Speaker 1: But it's definitely a dress rehearsal and expect the younger

1873
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 1: guys to play more in the end of the third

1874
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. And this is this game week they're trying

1875
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 1: to replicate its on it. You've been through a buz, Yeah,

1876
01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: Is that what's been different now with Brian a Bowlers

1877
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 1: offensive prement or are they doing things a little different

1878
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 1: than they did last year with a schedule and the

1879
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 1: way they installed and get ready for this game on

1880
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 1: I didn't make it to the third preseason game, so

1881
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 1: I never got to that point yet last year with them.

1882
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 1: But it's definitely the same similar you know, we're game

1883
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 1: planning where Scott, we're doing like scout team on Tuesday,

1884
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 1: seeing who's who, the defensive backs are, who the nickelback

1885
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 1: is and things like that, and then throughout the week

1886
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Speaker 1: is red Zone and Friday's Fast Friday. So we're definitely

1887
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Speaker 1: taking it through the same process I've been through other places.

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Speaker 1: As I said, it is great to have you here

1889
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Speaker 1: now in preseason week number three. Yes, premature your exit

1890
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 1: was last year and hope it continues for you continued success.

1891
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Speaker 1: I appreciate y'all. Have you know I'm happy to be

1892
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Speaker 1: here with y'all. Have you brod Street or Bill's Wide

1893
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Speaker 1: Receiver in studio, whether us, Steve and I back for

1894
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Speaker 1: the third hour of the show. When we return One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalid to Health. From One Bill's Drive,

1896
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Speaker 1: I'm Buffalo Bill's Radio, Bills Radio Network Sports Day at

1897
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 1: the update from One Bills Drive where the Buffalo Bills

1898
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 1: had wrapped up there Thursday practice. They're going through it

1899
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 1: like it's a regular regular season week with a game

1900
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Speaker 1: on Sunday coming up at four o'clock. Practicing outdoors in

1901
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Speaker 1: the sunshine. Today here at One Bills Drive, the Bills

1902
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 1: getting ready to play the Cincinnati Bengals four o'clock on Sunday.

1903
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 1: A new era of field. They made a roster move today.

1904
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 1: They didn't anticipate this. One. Veteran linebacker Keenan Robinson has

1905
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 1: chosen to retire. He was acquired by the Bills just

1906
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 1: before training camp began. Robinson a former fourth round pick

1907
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:36,599
Speaker 1: by Washington in twenty twelve. Five seasons in the NFL,

1908
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 1: mostly for Washington and the Giants. He's only twenty nine

1909
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 1: years old. Les put him on the reserve retired list.

1910
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 1: Robinson had trouble moving up the depth chart since he's

1911
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 1: been around the Bills for the last month or so,

1912
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 1: mostly on second and third team reps, both that inside

1913
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 1: linebacker and on the outside, and today he chose to

1914
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 1: walk away from it. Keenan Robinson retires from the Buffalo Bills.

1915
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Speaker 1: As expected, the NFL Competition Committee is making no changes

1916
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 1: to the helmet ruled approved by team owners earlier this offseason.

1917
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:05,639
Speaker 1: The decision made by during a conference call by committee

1918
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:08,559
Speaker 1: members Wednesday that addressed, among other things, what the league

1919
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 1: has learned about the new rule through the first couple

1920
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 1: of weeks of preseason football. The new rule designed to

1921
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 1: enhanced player safety by removing the technique of lowering the

1922
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 1: head to initiate and finnel through with contact with an opponent.

1923
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 1: It's been a source of confusion for players and coaches

1924
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 1: so far this offseason, but they will go on with

1925
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 1: the same rule. The NFL not going to change the

1926
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 1: helmet rule, at least not at this point. Cardinals quarterback

1927
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 1: of the Urkie Josh Rosen. Day to day, he did

1928
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 1: not practice yesterday because of an injured right hand and

1929
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 1: might put his appearance in their third preseason game in jeopardy.

1930
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 1: Rosen injured his thumb on his throwing hand Monday when

1931
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 1: he hit it on a teammate's helmet. Ohio State last

1932
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 1: night suspended head football coach Irvin Meyer for the first

1933
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 1: three games of the season after a two week investigation

1934
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:56,759
Speaker 1: found that he mishandled domestic assault allegations made against former Buckeyes'

1935
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,640
Speaker 1: assistant coach Nax Smith. Bison Baseball, the Bisons on the

1936
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 1: bottom of the fourth at the Downtown Ballpark, all tied

1937
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 1: up one apiece with Granton Wilkesbury. They're in the bottom

1938
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 1: of the fourth inning at Coca Cola Field. John Murphy,

1939
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:09,560
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker coming here from one Bill's Drive where the

1940
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 1: Bills practice ended about thirty minutes ago. Rod Streeter was

1941
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 1: on the show with us a little bit ago. Good

1942
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 1: guy Steve that that injury. I mean, it was so

1943
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:21,639
Speaker 1: he was having such a good training camp in preseason,

1944
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 1: through a couple of games a game and a half

1945
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 1: rearly last year, and then he got hurt and it

1946
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 1: really was kind of a bummer. It was kind of

1947
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 1: a downer because you could. First of all, you can

1948
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 1: see his personality. He is kind of a brilliant right,

1949
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:34,639
Speaker 1: he's upbeat and smiling. Secondly, he is a good player.

1950
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:36,600
Speaker 1: I think he still might have something to add to

1951
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 1: this roster. And you must appreciate he is embracing a

1952
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 1: possible role on special teams. Yeah, he wants to do

1953
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 1: anything he can to make the team and he's a

1954
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 1: great teammate. And it was interesting as well you mentioned

1955
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 1: his injury that when it happened, it was the first

1956
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 1: glimpse that the Bills fans got a chance to see

1957
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 1: what Sean McDermott's culture was gonna look like. And then

1958
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 1: they were in phil Rod Streeter went down and every

1959
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:07,679
Speaker 1: single player on the roster was on that field around him,

1960
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 1: hoping the best for him. And it was something that

1961
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 1: we hadn't seen in Buffalo for a while, and we

1962
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 1: saw much more of it as the season went on,

1963
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 1: and that became the hallmark of that team that went

1964
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 1: to the playoffs last year, and that Rod Streeter injury

1965
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:24,600
Speaker 1: was the first time we got a chance to see it,

1966
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:27,720
Speaker 1: the evidence of it as they the players came out

1967
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 1: to you know, to console him, seeing you see there

1968
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 1: the pictures on MSG. It was it was something to

1969
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 1: see him and it was I think surprising for a

1970
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 1: lot of people because Rod Streeter was a guy. He's

1971
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 1: kind of a journeyman, played for the Raiders, played for

1972
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:43,720
Speaker 1: San Francisco for a minute, he was out west. You know,

1973
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 1: he's kind of a bounce around guy. Came to Buffalo

1974
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 1: and he was part of it, part of that change

1975
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 1: last year. It was. It was tough, and it's great

1976
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 1: to see him here with a smile on his face

1977
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 1: and him another pretty good camp and making making that

1978
01:32:56,560 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 1: touchdown catch in Cleveland. That's the signature play was two

1979
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:02,559
Speaker 1: weeks of preseason, don't you think that? And you think

1980
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 1: about he had turf toe? And you know who was

1981
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 1: the other guy in base in baseball history who had

1982
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 1: the turf toe that Dizzy Dean? Oh? Did he? Yeah?

1983
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,679
Speaker 1: It ended his career. He threw his arm out. Really

1984
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:16,800
Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't Dizzy Dean. I don't know. I think

1985
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 1: it was he heard his toe got turf toe. Of course,

1986
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:21,440
Speaker 1: back then there was no such thing, and he dislocated

1987
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 1: his big toe or something and he had to change

1988
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 1: his delivery. And because he changed his delivery through his arm,

1989
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: out and had it ended his career ball hitter like

1990
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: you know that. I saw a movie one time, but

1991
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 1: it's true. It's the word there. There's some injury. Everybody

1992
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 1: has injuries, and they always think the ones that they

1993
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 1: had are the worst. But the foot and ankle and

1994
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:43,600
Speaker 1: toe and injuries like that, it's a crusher for a

1995
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 1: football player because you can't play. That's here, You're just done.

1996
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 1: You have to wait because you have to be able

1997
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 1: to run. Our question on Twitter, our question of the day,

1998
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 1: what does Josh Allen need to do Sunday against the

1999
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 1: Bengals to show that he can be the opening day starter?

2000
01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 1: Give us a call lines open eight o three five

2001
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 1: fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

2002
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 1: two five fifty, or you can do it on Twitter.

2003
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 1: We haven't even touched the tweet sheet. Let me do that,

2004
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 1: Brian Rossignal and answer to our question, what does Josh

2005
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 1: need to do Sunday the show he can start opening day?

2006
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 1: Brian Rossignal says, execute the scripted first quarter, well, red

2007
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 1: zone efficiency, and play lights out in the second quarter.

2008
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 1: What I'm really looking for is an abundance of offensive

2009
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 1: plays telling me the defense is righted the ship from

2010
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 1: there and run display against the Browns. There's a lot

2011
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 1: on the menu there, Brian execute first quarter, play lights

2012
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 1: out in the second quarter. I know, by the way defense,

2013
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: but you play well. And I'm going to skip over

2014
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:36,720
Speaker 1: to another tweet. Sheet fro Matt Emory. Don't turn He's

2015
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 1: from Matt for Josh Allen. Don't turn the ball over,

2016
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 1: don't take sacks that can be avoided, command the huddle,

2017
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 1: don't think too much, and matriculate the ball down the field.

2018
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 1: I mean all these things. Yeah, it's you look at

2019
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 1: these tweets, the one you just read, the one I

2020
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 1: just read. It's not easy, no, right, But it's like

2021
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:53,560
Speaker 1: Sean McDermot said, we all know what it looks like

2022
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:57,720
Speaker 1: and what it feels like. That says it. That's pretty simplifying.

2023
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 1: That's pretty simple to see. I mean, does it's come.

2024
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 1: It's there's a lot of layers. A tweet from Wandering Jack,

2025
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 1: who's one of our more astute to tweet respondents, four

2026
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 1: or five drives with solid numbers like ten or eleven

2027
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 1: for fifteen with ninety one hunder ten yards in a touchdown,

2028
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 1: no major mistakes or if he makes a mistake, he

2029
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 1: shakes it off and bounces. I'd also like to see

2030
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 1: him leads two scoring drives and minimize three. Announced would

2031
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 1: also like to see him completed deep all. You're right,

2032
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 1: it's a laundry list, Josh, you got a laundry list

2033
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 1: of stuff you gotta get done. You're gonna win this job.

2034
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 1: And it is. And I said, you're trying to. It's

2035
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 1: like Marv Levy, you say it's simple, but it's not easy.

2036
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot in there. But we're all

2037
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 1: gonna have a feeling when it's over. And I get

2038
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 1: the sense that if he does all the things that

2039
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 1: all these tweeters and all of you and I've been

2040
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 1: talking about, if all that stuff happens, you know, it

2041
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 1: seems a long way from where I was a week ago.

2042
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 1: But he's the guy. Yeah, right, a week ago, you

2043
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 1: were a Peterman guy, I would think, right, well, yeah,

2044
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:00,959
Speaker 1: he was, well he's and he's even now. Nathan Peterman's

2045
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:03,600
Speaker 1: played well, but you know what we all think. He

2046
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 1: that's his ceiling, right, I mean, I don't know if

2047
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:08,799
Speaker 1: Nate Peterman can play any better than he's played. Agree,

2048
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:10,600
Speaker 1: that's what we're looking at. And it was, and it

2049
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 1: was nice. It was, you know, seventeen or twenty for

2050
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 1: two thirty seven two touchdowns an interception that's good, you know,

2051
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 1: but it's not a high end, right, and it's not

2052
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 1: you know, you can win like that though, Yeah, you

2053
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 1: can win like that. Even his interception was a doin

2054
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 1: coff a helmet, you know, so you can win like that.

2055
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think Josh Allen can do that.

2056
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 1: Here's a call from Burying Amherous to trying to answer

2057
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:38,240
Speaker 1: this question, what does Josh Allen need to do Sunday

2058
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:40,680
Speaker 1: to be the opening day starter? Burying Amherous, what do

2059
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 1: you think? Thanks guys for taking me listen. He's progressing

2060
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 1: with his footwork a lot. It seems like, um, I

2061
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 1: watched a lot of his UH teaches from college, and

2062
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 1: it seems like all the work that he's done with

2063
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:57,759
Speaker 1: Palmer and Table and the coaches up here, it seems

2064
01:36:57,760 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 1: like his footwork is a lot better. So I think

2065
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 1: he's got to continue to progress with his footwork, which

2066
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 1: is obviously going to improve his accuracy. And I think

2067
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 1: if they're serious about starting him on opening Day, not

2068
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:13,720
Speaker 1: only does he have to really command that offense and

2069
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 1: give this team a few good drifts, but they got

2070
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 1: to bring him back now like they did in the

2071
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 1: Cleveland game. They've got to bring him back out in

2072
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:23,639
Speaker 1: the third quarter, all the things with him at halftime,

2073
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 1: and make this just like address rehearsal, which obviously this

2074
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 1: is being the third game. So I think that if

2075
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:34,400
Speaker 1: he would have to take a serious step backwards in

2076
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:37,760
Speaker 1: my opinion against Cincinnati to not be the starter on

2077
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 1: opening day four weeks ago, I was not on board

2078
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 1: with him starting. I was on board with them taking

2079
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 1: it easy with him, But if he gives them the

2080
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 1: best chance to win, it's hard not to put him

2081
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 1: in there, even as a rookie. And that's my point

2082
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 1: on that. And one last thing I'd like to I

2083
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:55,680
Speaker 1: ask you before I let you go is not to

2084
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 1: rehash the game last week, but I wish you guys

2085
01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:01,680
Speaker 1: could answer a simple question for him. Not the question McDermott,

2086
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 1: because I love the guy, but not one person that

2087
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:08,280
Speaker 1: I've heard has asked the simple question, why was Kyle

2088
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 1: Williams in the game in the second quarter of the

2089
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 1: second preseason game. If you could please answer that question

2090
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 1: for me after I let you go, I'd really love

2091
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 1: to hear your answer as to why Kyle Williams was

2092
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 1: still in the game because okay, he did not play

2093
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 1: in the opener the preseason. Yeah, because it was his

2094
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 1: first action and they wanted to get him some work.

2095
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that's all there is to it. I mean,

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01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 1: I didn't have a problem with it so much that

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01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 1: like he was playing too long or anything like that.

2098
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 1: He wasn't the starter out there. He'd been practicing a bunch,

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01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, he was ready to play. And

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01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 1: even the thing that happened was not his fault. It

2101
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 1: wasn't a matter of it was you know, the guy

2102
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 1: got blocked and fell off onto him, got rolled up,

2103
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:48,880
Speaker 1: and you know that kind of thing happens. But yeah,

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01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with him playing. He hadn't

2105
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:52,680
Speaker 1: played in the first one and it was time for him.

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01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 1: Let's go to Mike in Buffalo. Hold on, Mike, your

2107
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:57,800
Speaker 1: thoughts on Josh Allen. What does he need to do

2108
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:02,599
Speaker 1: to show that he can start against the evens Hey Murph.

2109
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:06,720
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm gonna go back to Steve on

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01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:10,639
Speaker 1: that one. He was completely correct. All Josh Allen has

2111
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 1: to do is move the ball, don't do anything really stupid.

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01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 1: He can make mistakes because as long as it don't cost,

2113
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:20,720
Speaker 1: you know, big money. Steve said he has to be

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01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 1: mistake free. No, no, he doesn't have to be a

2115
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 1: mistake free. He said. He didn't say that. He did

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01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 1: say that, Yeah, say that. He did say that. Yeah

2117
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 1: I did. But I guess no. But you know, when

2118
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:36,880
Speaker 1: you're putting him off, let it go, let him go

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01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:41,720
Speaker 1: go ahead, Mike. The point. The point is that I

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01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 1: think the same about Josh Allen for the beginning of

2121
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 1: this season as I did for Peterman last season. We

2122
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 1: already knew that with the limits of Tyrod Taylor a

2123
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 1: great guy, but we knew he wasn't he had happy

2124
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:55,640
Speaker 1: feet in the pocket, he didn't see the field right.

2125
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 1: But anyway, I think that Josh Allen should start if

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01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:02,759
Speaker 1: he has a good game. Um, and Nakan Peterman should

2127
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:04,720
Speaker 1: be his backup if he had a good game. If

2128
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman or him fall off, then uh, you know,

2129
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 1: then we got problems. But other than that, I think

2130
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:13,600
Speaker 1: Josh Allen should be the stutter if he does a

2131
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 1: good job. Okay, thanks Mike. Let's go to Butch in Buffalo. Hello, Butch, welcome,

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01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 1: You're on the air list. Hi Butcher, Hey, how are

2133
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:23,640
Speaker 1: you going to John? To Steve, thanks so much for

2134
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 1: taking my call. You know you come to right with

2135
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 1: the alio. What I really want to say, and this

2136
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:31,600
Speaker 1: is what I want to say. Two years ago, we

2137
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 1: had a coach of staff, we had a general manager,

2138
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 1: we had a whole different front office. In two years,

2139
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 1: we don't gut it our roster, added talent to the roster,

2140
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 1: got a good front office with good scouts, brought in

2141
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,880
Speaker 1: good draft picks. I'm looking at these picks that we have.

2142
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:51,840
Speaker 1: Out of the eight picks we have, six of them

2143
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 1: are solid. That to Ron Johnson and Saran the other Sah, yeah,

2144
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:01,680
Speaker 1: they're they're going to be They're gonna be beast uh.

2145
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:03,680
Speaker 1: And you look at you look at Trevaine at Man

2146
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 1: and then you look at Josh Josh. I would just

2147
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:08,439
Speaker 1: listen to the last caller, Mike and Mike, I love you, Man,

2148
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate your comment. But it's one thing that I

2149
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 1: want to say, Mike is this is that if he

2150
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 1: if if Nate Peterman, who I'm a fan of, Josh Allen,

2151
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 1: just say they have a terrible game this weekend. It's

2152
01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 1: nothing in the world. It's just one game. They can

2153
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:26,639
Speaker 1: have a good season. It's just one game, but we're

2154
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 1: judging them real fast off safety throw intercessis say you

2155
01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 1: go out to throw three intercessions. That don't mean he

2156
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:35,040
Speaker 1: can't start and be a star in the league coming

2157
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:37,920
Speaker 1: up this season. It's just one game, so I like

2158
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 1: to let the process go like it's like it's supposed

2159
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 1: to go. I like the front offs. I want to

2160
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 1: applaud them and take a bow of what they're doing,

2161
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 1: just like you had the nice a Rod Streeter on here.

2162
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:50,200
Speaker 1: Uh pip at that pickup, good pick up. People say

2163
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:52,640
Speaker 1: we don't have talent at why receiver. I totally disagree.

2164
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 1: We do. We have a lot of talent and wy receiver.

2165
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:57,599
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of we got a nice off

2166
01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:00,800
Speaker 1: scordin here. Now he's gonna put the ingredient. Would have

2167
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 1: a nice veil and on Sunday, we're going to eat

2168
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:06,160
Speaker 1: everybody's horry on this team. And I wanted to supplaud

2169
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:09,839
Speaker 1: them without letting it go unnoticed of that this conference

2170
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 1: and this staff we have now he has bocus coordinators

2171
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,760
Speaker 1: upstairs in the boxes. Everything is going slowly now and

2172
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 1: I just really applaud those guys. But what they're selecting well,

2173
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:22,679
Speaker 1: how they're playing and how they how they're following the process,

2174
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:25,640
Speaker 1: and how they let their players understand and believe in

2175
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:28,760
Speaker 1: the process. All right, thanks, Thanks, that's a good point too,

2176
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 1: because we're seeing, and we're Murph and I and all

2177
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:35,920
Speaker 1: the callers and people who are tweeting us. We're basing

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01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:38,160
Speaker 1: all of our evaluations on what we see on the

2179
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:41,599
Speaker 1: field on game day, and the process is way more

2180
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:45,280
Speaker 1: complicated and deep than that. It's the coaching staff and

2181
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 1: their interactions with him on the practice field. It's watching

2182
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 1: the reps. It's watching how they've progressed each player, AJ, Nate, Josh,

2183
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:55,800
Speaker 1: how they've all changed and evolved over the course of

2184
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 1: the last three months. How fast has Josh come along?

2185
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 1: What is Josh doing now that he wasn't capable of

2186
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:03,680
Speaker 1: three months ago? What's he doing now that he was

2187
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 1: making mistakes at three weeks ago that now he doesn't

2188
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:10,559
Speaker 1: make those mistakes. Same thing with Peterman, same thing with McCarron.

2189
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 1: These guys are getting better and they have a lot

2190
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:18,560
Speaker 1: on the table with these coaches that is outside of

2191
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:22,560
Speaker 1: what we see in the preseason games in Carolina and

2192
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:25,679
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, and all of that is going into the process,

2193
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:28,760
Speaker 1: which what Butch referred to these games are just one game. Now,

2194
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 1: Sean did say these games are important, and we all

2195
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:34,400
Speaker 1: agree that that, but there's a lot more that goes

2196
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 1: into it, and I think you kind of got it,

2197
01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 1: and he's right. There's a lot of reasons to trust

2198
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:42,639
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, Brian Daboll in this front office and coaching

2199
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 1: staff to get it right when they do make the call.

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01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 1: Brian Gabel, the Bill's offensive Quidneatter, met with the media

2201
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:49,759
Speaker 1: before practice today and as far as Josh Allen getting

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01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 1: set for his first preseason start, coach Dabele says, Josh

2203
01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:56,719
Speaker 1: is still grinding, still working on learning the new Buffalo offense.

2204
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:02,559
Speaker 1: For any young player, you you come into a new

2205
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 1: system and you learn how the coaches want things done

2206
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 1: um and then you as a coach, you drill it.

2207
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 1: You drill it pre practice, you drill it during practice,

2208
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:15,599
Speaker 1: and there's different techniques for each position that that everybody

2209
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 1: wants to work on. He's been, you know, grinding like

2210
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:21,200
Speaker 1: those other two guys, of of working on you know

2211
01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:24,280
Speaker 1: pre snap stuff. It starts pre snap. Playing quarterback starts

2212
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:27,040
Speaker 1: pre snap. You know, setting the table before any play

2213
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:30,000
Speaker 1: is even run, making sure you call the play properly,

2214
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:32,720
Speaker 1: making sure the receivers are lined up, making sure we're

2215
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 1: good on the play clock. Um, and then moving into

2216
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:38,680
Speaker 1: the whole mechanic issues after the ball snap. Now it

2217
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:41,760
Speaker 1: goes into reads, who were looking at our footwork, our

2218
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 1: movement in the pocket, our ability to reset, keep our

2219
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 1: shoulders perpendicular line of scrimmage, keep our eyes down, feel

2220
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 1: no when to run. Those are things we work on

2221
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:56,639
Speaker 1: every day. He's very coachable. Yeah. Um, all the guys

2222
01:44:56,680 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 1: in that room are are really fun to be around,

2223
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 1: and they're working really hard. They take the coach and

2224
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,000
Speaker 1: they try to go out there the next day to

2225
01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 1: do it better. It's a good room. Good room, the

2226
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 1: quarterback room. According to Brian Dabo. Leslie Fraser met with

2227
01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 1: the media today as well after practice moments ago, the

2228
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator of the Buffalo Bills. He's got a first

2229
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 1: rounder he's trying to work into the lineup linebacker to

2230
01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 1: remain Edmonds, and Frasier was asked today what does he

2231
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:24,880
Speaker 1: need to see from Edmonds to continue his progression? Well,

2232
01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 1: probably the same thing you want to see in all

2233
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 1: the guys this time of the year. You know, just

2234
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,280
Speaker 1: each week, just get a little bit better at something

2235
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:32,680
Speaker 1: and try to build on that. And he's really no

2236
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 1: different than now all the players in that way. Just

2237
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 1: every week, just try to get a little bit better

2238
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:39,679
Speaker 1: as we work towards our season open, our regular season opener,

2239
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 1: and if that's the case, just keep getting better. We'll

2240
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 1: be all right come September night. Maybe a couple of

2241
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 1: times watching the first drive, especially, maybe he was diagnosing

2242
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:49,960
Speaker 1: something a little bit different than he should have been

2243
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 1: to that helping when you're actually game planning coach, and

2244
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 1: I'll have different reads that he can count on there.

2245
01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know that's the beauty sale at this

2246
01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:58,680
Speaker 1: time of the year, where you know, you get a

2247
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:00,759
Speaker 1: chance to go out and do something in the preseason,

2248
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 1: learned from them, especially as a rookie. You know, he'll

2249
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:04,640
Speaker 1: learn from some of those things that happened in that

2250
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 1: ball game, and you know, looking forward to when we

2251
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 1: get ready to play Baltimore, some of those things are

2252
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:12,639
Speaker 1: behind him. So that's that's a mention. That's the beauty

2253
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 1: of this time of the year. And the more he

2254
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:18,519
Speaker 1: sees things, the better he's gonna get. So express to

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01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:21,760
Speaker 1: you in terms of why he decided to retire at

2256
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:25,400
Speaker 1: this point. Uh, you know, it's kind of personal, and

2257
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:27,800
Speaker 1: you know he'll I'm sure he at some point he'll

2258
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:30,639
Speaker 1: speak to the media if he already hasn't, and he'll

2259
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 1: share what those reasons were. But have a lot of

2260
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 1: respect for him as a player and as a person.

2261
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:38,040
Speaker 1: He did a great job for us in the time

2262
01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 1: he was with us, and we wishing nothing but the best.

2263
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:43,599
Speaker 1: What does that retirement mean for you know, the linebacker room.

2264
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 1: Now there's some other guys that are uying for spots,

2265
01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 1: and that means that they'll get more opportunities to come

2266
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon, which is, uh, you know, good for them,

2267
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we'll get a chance to go

2268
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 1: through it and just figure out which guy is going

2269
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:59,639
Speaker 1: to be best to make out fifty three. I can't

2270
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:01,560
Speaker 1: say that I saw it coming. You know, it's no

2271
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 1: different than probably any of our players. So you know,

2272
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, just wish him the best. Approach preseason, Drew,

2273
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:11,640
Speaker 1: you look at it as a true dress rehearsals. You know,

2274
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:14,360
Speaker 1: as far as preseason games go for a week one,

2275
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, they're what you're looking for is progression. You know,

2276
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 1: guys progressing at their positions. Uh, some of the mistakes

2277
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:24,240
Speaker 1: that they may maybe have made in the first game

2278
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:26,760
Speaker 1: of the second game that that's behind them and they're

2279
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:28,960
Speaker 1: making progress, and some of the things that you're doing.

2280
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:31,719
Speaker 1: And then most of all, if you can just stay healthy,

2281
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:33,680
Speaker 1: you know, keep your best players healthy and get through

2282
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:35,800
Speaker 1: the ball game and get rid of for that first

2283
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 1: game of the season. But to see some progress and

2284
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:41,559
Speaker 1: stay healthy. Lesie, I know your focus thirty on defense,

2285
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 1: but from your perspective going against Josh Allen, how have

2286
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:48,400
Speaker 1: you seen his development from the first time he stepped

2287
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 1: out here to now heaving into his first start, well

2288
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:53,920
Speaker 1: done as you can expect. I mean, going back to

2289
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:58,720
Speaker 1: OTA's recommending camp and you know, all the staffs that

2290
01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 1: he's taken, you know, we've all seen just a study

2291
01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 1: growth and which is good to see, and that's part

2292
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:07,519
Speaker 1: of being a rookie mature as a player. But we've

2293
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 1: all seen study growth, and you'll get another opportunity to

2294
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:13,479
Speaker 1: grow some more this Sunday, Like I said something about

2295
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:17,840
Speaker 1: how you, honeste Josh now is really seeing what your

2296
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 1: defense is doing and pulling it out at the line

2297
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:22,559
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Is that something you see on a more

2298
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 1: regular basis, and how advanced is that Philahephia at this

2299
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:28,800
Speaker 1: stage preseason. Well, I think he's doing some good things,

2300
01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 1: you know, and uh, you know, you just like to

2301
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 1: see him progress, And I have to be honest, done

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01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 1: I don't study him to have much. As you mentioned,

2303
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:38,559
Speaker 1: I'm concentrating more on what we're trying to do on defense,

2304
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 1: and but I know he's grown from the time that

2305
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:44,720
Speaker 1: we started back in rookie minicamp to where we are

2306
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:46,760
Speaker 1: to day, and just off all of us, you know,

2307
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 1: we're hoping that he continues to grow. The run defense.

2308
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:53,920
Speaker 1: The first drive against Cleveland, I know it's just depreseason,

2309
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:57,800
Speaker 1: but how concerning was that to you? Oh, it's a

2310
01:48:57,960 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 1: concern anytime they run the ball successfully, whether it's preseason

2311
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:05,519
Speaker 1: or regular season. You know, you want to really hone

2312
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:07,439
Speaker 1: that up and get it taken care of. And that's

2313
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:10,800
Speaker 1: something we'll work on this weekend. You'd like to find

2314
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 1: out what some of the issues are in the preseason

2315
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 1: so you can work on some of those things the

2316
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 1: following week and leading up to the regular season. But

2317
01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 1: you know, I think there are some things that are

2318
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:23,080
Speaker 1: definitely correctable and we'll be able to get those questions

2319
01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:26,519
Speaker 1: answered hoping on Sunday. When you get an effort on

2320
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 1: the team's part to shore that up this offseason, and

2321
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 1: some of the moves that you made, would you agree

2322
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:33,720
Speaker 1: with that absolutely? You know, bringing them a guy like

2323
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:37,680
Speaker 1: Star was a tremendous edition, and didn't having Tremaine as

2324
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:41,040
Speaker 1: a part of our defense as well, And so you

2325
01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 1: know what I like is the fact that we did

2326
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 1: such a great job on third down and you don't

2327
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 1: allow points. That's a big deal. But we for sure,

2328
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to give up a bunch of yards rushing.

2329
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:55,519
Speaker 1: That's a big deal. Leslie Frazier, Bill's defensive coordinator, talking

2330
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 1: to the media today after practice. Legitimate question, Steve, that

2331
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:00,960
Speaker 1: was troubling early in the game last Friday night to

2332
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 1: see the Browns run the football like that. If that

2333
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:06,400
Speaker 1: happens again, then I'm worried. Yeah. And it was interesting

2334
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 1: too though, And it's a sign of having some veterans

2335
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 1: on your defense. And despite the fact that you know,

2336
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:13,799
Speaker 1: the youngest guy in the league maybe is running your defense,

2337
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:16,680
Speaker 1: they came together on the sidelines and even to him

2338
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 1: and I talked to I've heard a bunch of guys

2339
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:22,200
Speaker 1: talk about it from Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, Tremaine Edmonds

2340
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:24,840
Speaker 1: of course, and then Kyle Williams and those guys. They

2341
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:26,880
Speaker 1: all said they came together and started talking about what

2342
01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:29,240
Speaker 1: was going on out there, and they short it up.

2343
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:32,280
Speaker 1: They did a much better job after the first series

2344
01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 1: or two happened when they started making some adjustments. And

2345
01:50:36,520 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 1: the ability to do that during the game, I think

2346
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 1: is crucial for a team because you're gonna run in

2347
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:43,679
Speaker 1: there where some team's gonna get you early in the game,

2348
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:46,640
Speaker 1: and when you can sit down talk about it and

2349
01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:48,800
Speaker 1: have the kind of communication that they did and get

2350
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 1: it short up and stopped, it's gonna help you late

2351
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:53,800
Speaker 1: in games when things are on the line. I think

2352
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 1: that's I think it speaks well of the defense that

2353
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 1: they did short up by the same token. Yeah, they

2354
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 1: they had some issues going on very early in that game.

2355
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 1: So much attention focused on Josh Allen and the Buffalo offense,

2356
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:08,640
Speaker 1: you can't forget the defense has room for improvement from

2357
01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 1: last year, and certainly room for improvement from last Friday Night,

2358
01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:14,200
Speaker 1: twenty sixth overall in defense last year, and they and

2359
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:16,559
Speaker 1: that in the NFL ranks it by yards given up

2360
01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:19,200
Speaker 1: and the Bills gave up, you know, twenty sixth overall

2361
01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:21,559
Speaker 1: in yards and they were twenty ninth in offense. I mean,

2362
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:24,000
Speaker 1: and then that that team, as you were laughing with

2363
01:51:25,320 --> 01:51:28,719
Speaker 1: Andy Benoit, that team goes to the playoffs. It didn't

2364
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:32,360
Speaker 1: end up. It did not, and I was happier than

2365
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:35,120
Speaker 1: anybody to see it happened. But you know, the nine

2366
01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:39,040
Speaker 1: wins out of that, the that performance was amazing last year.

2367
01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:41,400
Speaker 1: It's takeaways, it's and it's coaching too. I think it

2368
01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:43,920
Speaker 1: was coaching last year. Andy Benoyd was really we had

2369
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:47,559
Speaker 1: him on at one thirty to today when he came

2370
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 1: on and talked about how good a job he thought

2371
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:54,000
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott did on game day and also getting his

2372
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:56,559
Speaker 1: team to overperform. He thought he laid that right at

2373
01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:58,240
Speaker 1: the feat of Sean McDermott and what he was able

2374
01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:00,880
Speaker 1: to do with his coaching staff and evading and setting

2375
01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:04,320
Speaker 1: guys up for success, particularly on the defensive side. But

2376
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:07,080
Speaker 1: he was very complimentary of Sean McDermot his ability to

2377
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:09,559
Speaker 1: get guys get the most out of his roster when

2378
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:12,120
Speaker 1: they were, like we said, twenty sixth in defense and

2379
01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 1: twenty ninth in offense, and getting him into the playoffs.

2380
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:16,519
Speaker 1: It's weird Josh Allen gets to start this Sunday. What

2381
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 1: does he need to do to get the job on Sunday,

2382
01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:21,840
Speaker 1: September ninth. Take a few more thoughts on that from you.

2383
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:25,840
Speaker 1: Trevor calling from Cheek Dwaga. Hello, Trevor, go ahead, Hello,

2384
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:31,160
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. Sure, what I was pretty

2385
01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 1: much thinking was Allen, you know, unless he goes out

2386
01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 1: there and with the limited time that he's gonna have,

2387
01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 1: unless he goes out there and you know, twelve for twelve,

2388
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 1: three hundred yards for Truslow passes, which isn't gonna happen,

2389
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 1: I think it pretty much comes down to what Peterman does,

2390
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:49,400
Speaker 1: you know, no matter what Alan does, if Peterman goes

2391
01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:52,639
Speaker 1: out there and has another solid outing like he has

2392
01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:56,719
Speaker 1: the first two weeks, I think it's his job to lose, really,

2393
01:52:57,080 --> 01:53:00,720
Speaker 1: rather than Allan's job to win. You know, Trevor, I

2394
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 1: see almost the exact opposite of that, and I respect

2395
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:06,320
Speaker 1: your opinion, But I think we know what Nathan Peterman

2396
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 1: can be. We've seen some glimpses of what Josh Allen

2397
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 1: might be, and that's what's got everybody excited. That's what's

2398
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 1: got me excited. I think the coaching staff as well. Look,

2399
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 1: I know Nathan Peterman when he plays this Sunday, he'll

2400
01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:19,800
Speaker 1: play well because he always does. He's steady. I think

2401
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 1: he'll play well. But there's a chance Josh Allen could

2402
01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 1: play really well, almost great, And that's what has everybody excited,

2403
01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:27,400
Speaker 1: I believe. Yeah. And you think though too, that with

2404
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:29,680
Speaker 1: the staff like this and this team who seeing what

2405
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:34,000
Speaker 1: happened last year at the quarterback position, playing well and

2406
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:38,760
Speaker 1: playing running the offense like an NFL offense, that would

2407
01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 1: be a big that would be a step forward. I mean,

2408
01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:42,160
Speaker 1: they're not going to be thirty first in the league

2409
01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 1: in passing, and if they can get to a point

2410
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 1: where that they feel like the rest of their team

2411
01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:47,719
Speaker 1: is going to be even better, so that that would

2412
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 1: be a way to definitely win games rather than rolling

2413
01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:53,720
Speaker 1: the dice and making sure that and seeing if Josh

2414
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:57,080
Speaker 1: Allen can actually, you know, not play like a rookie

2415
01:53:57,240 --> 01:54:00,120
Speaker 1: like he is. So it'll be an interesting question that

2416
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,880
Speaker 1: McDermott and the coaching staff of answer, and I agree

2417
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 1: to a certain extent. Nathan Peterman has a little bit

2418
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:09,960
Speaker 1: to say about this this weekend Sunday. If he comes

2419
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:13,639
Speaker 1: out and plays lights out well that that might change

2420
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:16,880
Speaker 1: the conversation, but not if Josh Allen plays lights out

2421
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:19,800
Speaker 1: of call from Corey go ahead, Corey, welcome, you're on

2422
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:24,280
Speaker 1: the air with this Martin. All right, I'm calling about

2423
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:28,639
Speaker 1: the situation with Josh Allen. Just like almost the tester

2424
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:33,440
Speaker 1: to say that it's it's Josh Allen's um thing to lose.

2425
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:35,760
Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen is going to be the start

2426
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:38,240
Speaker 1: of the week one, even if he has some bumps

2427
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 1: and bruises this year the rookie, I think he's still

2428
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:43,480
Speaker 1: gonna do good. Right, maybe you know, I think I

2429
01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 1: disagree with you too, though. I don't think it's his

2430
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:47,800
Speaker 1: job to lose. I think it's his job to win,

2431
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:49,840
Speaker 1: and he's in good position to win it starting the

2432
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:52,440
Speaker 1: game and see. I think it's important too, and I'm anticipate.

2433
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to McDermott about this, Coach McDermott, they

2434
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 1: are likely, I would hope to Josh Allen starts, and

2435
01:54:58,680 --> 01:55:00,760
Speaker 1: Josh Allen starts the second half as well. I think

2436
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:03,080
Speaker 1: there's a kind of a game management thing that comes

2437
01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 1: into play. I think I believe McDermot will probably do that. Well, Yeah,

2438
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:07,800
Speaker 1: I think there's you got to think about it in

2439
01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:09,920
Speaker 1: a series or two in the second half. Yeah, everybody

2440
01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:11,840
Speaker 1: can kind of see the mindset that you go into

2441
01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:13,480
Speaker 1: if you're a player and you know you're gonna get

2442
01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:15,120
Speaker 1: ten snaps, you know, like they usually do in the

2443
01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:17,880
Speaker 1: first two pass preseason games, like we saw mccaren get,

2444
01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:20,520
Speaker 1: like we saw Josh Allen get with the twos and

2445
01:55:20,520 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 1: they're out for the entire second half. If you go

2446
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 1: in there as you if you're Josh Allen, you know

2447
01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna get extended time. You take a broader picture

2448
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:32,200
Speaker 1: of what each series is worth. You're not gonna try

2449
01:55:32,280 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 1: and get everything into the three snaps in this series.

2450
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:37,400
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna sit back and say, listen, if

2451
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:39,280
Speaker 1: I need to throw this away, I'm throwing it away

2452
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:41,800
Speaker 1: because I don't need to throw it. I don't have

2453
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:43,080
Speaker 1: to worry about it. If I throw this way and

2454
01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 1: we go off the field and pundit, then I'm going

2455
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 1: to sit down for the rest of the night. There's

2456
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 1: something to be said for that. It will give him

2457
01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:50,880
Speaker 1: a sense of calmness, knowing that he's gonna have a

2458
01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:52,760
Speaker 1: chance to make up for any bumps that he may

2459
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:55,280
Speaker 1: go through from the tweet sheet from David kape Rush

2460
01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, what does he need to do to win

2461
01:55:57,800 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback job? What can you do? This Sunday?

2462
01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:02,640
Speaker 1: David Kapro says he was handed the keys to the bus.

2463
01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:05,560
Speaker 1: Don't put it in the ditch, and they'll end up

2464
01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:07,920
Speaker 1: with a great chance to start in Baltimore. He's shown

2465
01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 1: no signs yet of being capable of putting the bus

2466
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:13,040
Speaker 1: in the ditch. You know what I mean, he said,

2467
01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:17,240
Speaker 1: two pretty solid performances, Josh Owen. Yeah, but it could happen.

2468
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:19,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you never know, and that's why you gotta go.

2469
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 1: We gotta see. We gotta see if he can handle

2470
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:23,840
Speaker 1: it and go in and get the team off to

2471
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:25,880
Speaker 1: a good start. I mean, because there's nothing in his

2472
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:27,800
Speaker 1: nerve wracking is walking out there the first thing in

2473
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:29,360
Speaker 1: the game, not knowing what you're gonna look at and

2474
01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:31,000
Speaker 1: going up under the center and looking out there and

2475
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:35,960
Speaker 1: not recognizing anything. It can happen. So um, but you're right,

2476
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 1: I don't expect him to fall flat. I don't. I

2477
01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:40,200
Speaker 1: think it's going to be somewhere in the middle of

2478
01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:45,360
Speaker 1: between fall and flat and unbelievable. You know, four touchdown

2479
01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:47,200
Speaker 1: game and one half. You know, I think it's gonna

2480
01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:49,440
Speaker 1: somewhere in between that he did. I read this right.

2481
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:52,120
Speaker 1: Are you on CBS working the Bills game at Baltimore

2482
01:56:52,120 --> 01:56:54,280
Speaker 1: the Openers. Yeah, I'm the sideline guy for Rich Cannon

2483
01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:56,520
Speaker 1: and Kevin Harlan. I've got the Bills into good That's

2484
01:56:56,560 --> 01:56:59,640
Speaker 1: good way for you to start. The CBS announcing teams announced.

2485
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:02,800
Speaker 1: Eaves had down to New York Sunday Monday Tuesday. Who

2486
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:05,080
Speaker 1: won't be with us next week to get ready for

2487
01:57:05,120 --> 01:57:07,880
Speaker 1: the CBS crew and the announcing teams. Number one, Nance,

2488
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:10,160
Speaker 1: Romo and Wolfson. Just like last year. Number two, I

2489
01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:13,000
Speaker 1: An Eagle, Dan Fouts, Evan Washburn. We had Evan on

2490
01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 1: the show right down at the camp a couple of

2491
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:17,920
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Yeah. Number three Greg Gumbel, Trent Green, Bruce

2492
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:21,600
Speaker 1: Arians and Melanie Collins. And then they're Steve with Kevin Harland,

2493
01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:24,880
Speaker 1: Rich Gannon, Andrew Cavalon, James Lawson, a good crew, Spirit, Gidius,

2494
01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:28,880
Speaker 1: Adam Arceiletta, Tom McCarthy, Steve Burnline and Beth Mwens and

2495
01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 1: Jay Feely. That's a power pack line up. You're in there, Steve,

2496
01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 1: and I like the way that the CBS puts your

2497
01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:37,680
Speaker 1: picture on that group. Well, CBS didn't. Oh we did that.

2498
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:40,920
Speaker 1: I think you guys did. But seriously, that's a good strike.

2499
01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:45,000
Speaker 1: Must have been taken twenty years ago. Twenty years ago, Yeah,

2500
01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:47,760
Speaker 1: I know, I'm have you had much experience with Harlan

2501
01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:49,880
Speaker 1: and rich Gannon. I've worked with Kevin Harland a number

2502
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:51,800
Speaker 1: of games in Monday Night Football when we were doing

2503
01:57:51,840 --> 01:57:53,480
Speaker 1: the radio radio. He's the radio booth and I was

2504
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:56,360
Speaker 1: the analyst with him and Boomer A. Siason. Kevin's a

2505
01:57:56,400 --> 01:57:57,880
Speaker 1: good friend of mine. I like him a lot. He's

2506
01:57:57,880 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 1: a good play by play guy, a lot of fun

2507
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:01,400
Speaker 1: to be around. Good and that's those guys are always

2508
01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:02,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's like you and me. It's fun to

2509
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:05,400
Speaker 1: work together. And the same with Kevin and rich Gannon

2510
01:58:06,240 --> 01:58:08,000
Speaker 1: had a chance to shoot the breeze with him when

2511
01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:10,080
Speaker 1: Jay Harris and I were at the Super Bowl this year.

2512
01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:12,840
Speaker 1: He was He's a Minnesota guy, and uh so I

2513
01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:15,200
Speaker 1: chit chatted with him. And then when when this was

2514
01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 1: coming down, they told me I was going to do

2515
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:20,400
Speaker 1: that call rich and said, hey, here's the deal, Um,

2516
01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:22,360
Speaker 1: I may not be able to get into the games

2517
01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:25,400
Speaker 1: we're doing every weekend until Saturday because I'm working with

2518
01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:28,720
Speaker 1: John Murphy, voice of the Buffalo Bills Monday through Friday.

2519
01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:31,920
Speaker 1: And he goes, oh, awesome. We've been lobbying for a

2520
01:58:32,360 --> 01:58:34,840
Speaker 1: play for a sideline person for years and they haven't

2521
01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:36,960
Speaker 1: given us. I'm we're stoked you over there. It'll be great.

2522
01:58:37,240 --> 01:58:39,520
Speaker 1: So he goes, we'll have you and I rich Gannon.

2523
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:42,480
Speaker 1: He says, you and I will have lunch every Saturday

2524
01:58:42,520 --> 01:58:43,880
Speaker 1: and I'll catch up to speed on what we did

2525
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:45,600
Speaker 1: on Friday and stuff, and we'll be gold. And so

2526
01:58:45,720 --> 01:58:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm that's I got Bills and Baltimore. We're gonna be

2527
01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:51,520
Speaker 1: working I guess every single weekend. Yeah, so you know what,

2528
01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:54,600
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated the team number three Gumbolt, Trent Green and

2529
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians. Bruce Arians, fresh off the sideline. Yeah, he's

2530
01:58:58,640 --> 01:59:00,560
Speaker 1: a smart guy and he's a funny guy, and he's

2531
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:02,320
Speaker 1: in a reverend guy. He could be really good. He's

2532
01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:04,840
Speaker 1: he's dead on ut. He nared. He tells it. He

2533
01:59:04,920 --> 01:59:07,040
Speaker 1: tells it like it is. Yeah, the good, the bad,

2534
01:59:07,120 --> 01:59:08,880
Speaker 1: and the ugly. So it'll be really he might be

2535
01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:10,880
Speaker 1: a really good addition. I'm sure he's gonna be a

2536
01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:13,400
Speaker 1: fun guy to get to know, Yeah, the CBS cruise.

2537
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 1: Steve's part of it on that team with Rich Cannon

2538
01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:19,640
Speaker 1: and uh and Kevin Harlan. Kevin Harlan. That's yeah. We've

2539
01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:22,920
Speaker 1: got Baltimore. Great, We've got you guys, you guys, We've

2540
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:25,320
Speaker 1: got the Bills in Baltimore. Yeah, all right, we're breaking here,

2541
01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:27,120
Speaker 1: we're coming back. We got time for more phone calls.

2542
01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 1: Don't be a free to dial in eight oh three

2543
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:31,760
Speaker 1: five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five

2544
01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty from outside Buffalo One Bill's Live,

2545
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:37,800
Speaker 1: presented by Kalaida Health from One Bill's Drive. This is

2546
01:59:37,880 --> 01:59:54,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio, John Murphy, Steve Tasker. We're coming down

2547
01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:57,680
Speaker 1: the home stretch and down the stretch they come of

2548
01:59:57,800 --> 01:59:59,920
Speaker 1: the show. Twenty five minutes left in the show. Steven

2549
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:02,440
Speaker 1: Night here until three talking to you about Bill's football.

2550
02:00:02,480 --> 02:00:04,840
Speaker 1: Our topic of the day, Josh Allen, what does he

2551
02:00:04,920 --> 02:00:06,800
Speaker 1: need to do Sunday to win the job, to win

2552
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:08,760
Speaker 1: the starting job on in September ninth. But we're not

2553
02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:11,080
Speaker 1: limited to that. Whatever you'd like to talk about. Eight

2554
02:00:11,160 --> 02:00:14,640
Speaker 1: oh three fifty and toll free one eight eighty fifty

2555
02:00:14,680 --> 02:00:17,360
Speaker 1: two five fifty. You know who it strikes me, as

2556
02:00:17,560 --> 02:00:19,000
Speaker 1: you know, we had Rod Street here in here talking

2557
02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:22,320
Speaker 1: about the receiving group and he is not. I didn't

2558
02:00:22,360 --> 02:00:25,720
Speaker 1: look today. I apologize. I think Brandon Riley should be

2559
02:00:25,760 --> 02:00:27,240
Speaker 1: ready to play in this game. Right. He's missed a

2560
02:00:27,240 --> 02:00:29,600
Speaker 1: couple of games with ribs. He missed a game anyway,

2561
02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:31,839
Speaker 1: missed one game with ribs, and a bunch of practices,

2562
02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:33,320
Speaker 1: and that's one of the things that happens in training camp.

2563
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:35,000
Speaker 1: He missed a couple of practices. It feels like you're

2564
02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:37,640
Speaker 1: out a week. Yeah, and he hasn't been on my radar.

2565
02:00:37,720 --> 02:00:40,600
Speaker 1: And about a week Riley was in I think game

2566
02:00:40,680 --> 02:00:43,760
Speaker 1: number one here in Buffalo, got tackled, got tackled once

2567
02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:46,400
Speaker 1: and hurt his ribs. He's been struggling ever since. But

2568
02:00:46,480 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 1: he should be ready to go this Yeah. I saw

2569
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:51,280
Speaker 1: him taking reps today, full reps during individual drills. So

2570
02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:53,520
Speaker 1: he may get on the field again. This a guy

2571
02:00:53,560 --> 02:00:55,800
Speaker 1: who might have something to say about that receiving, right

2572
02:00:56,040 --> 02:00:57,840
Speaker 1: he might. He certainly had a good camp last year,

2573
02:00:57,840 --> 02:00:59,520
Speaker 1: and he made a couple of catches this year as well.

2574
02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:03,040
Speaker 1: Made it nice catch from AJ McCarron in the Carolina game.

2575
02:01:03,080 --> 02:01:06,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's some guys. I do think there's some

2576
02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:09,560
Speaker 1: roster spots up for Rolls and I think but like

2577
02:01:09,680 --> 02:01:12,160
Speaker 1: I said, also, this game is going to be more

2578
02:01:12,160 --> 02:01:15,640
Speaker 1: about the guys that they're thinking, they've got hopes for

2579
02:01:15,880 --> 02:01:18,480
Speaker 1: and plans for the first two and a half quarters

2580
02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:20,200
Speaker 1: of this game are going to be guys who you

2581
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:22,360
Speaker 1: can count on being in a Bill's uniform for the

2582
02:01:22,440 --> 02:01:25,360
Speaker 1: most part. Yeah, And the cutdown is a week from

2583
02:01:25,400 --> 02:01:30,120
Speaker 1: this Saturday, right September. Two games before that, It's right,

2584
02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:33,360
Speaker 1: it'll be two days after that, after the Chicago game

2585
02:01:33,400 --> 02:01:36,200
Speaker 1: in Chicago. Yeah, September one is the cutdown day. Um,

2586
02:01:36,560 --> 02:01:39,000
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about this tomorrow a lot as we

2587
02:01:39,040 --> 02:01:41,520
Speaker 1: do a Friday show tomorrow jam Pack Friday Show coming up,

2588
02:01:41,560 --> 02:01:43,680
Speaker 1: But we do want to talk about what are you

2589
02:01:43,760 --> 02:01:45,919
Speaker 1: looking for? What are you watching for? Not just quarterbacks.

2590
02:01:45,960 --> 02:01:48,560
Speaker 1: Obviously quarterback will be at the top of everybody's mind,

2591
02:01:48,640 --> 02:01:50,800
Speaker 1: Josh Shillen getting the start, but there's a lot more.

2592
02:01:50,960 --> 02:01:52,800
Speaker 1: There's a lot else going on around this team that

2593
02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:55,120
Speaker 1: will be important how it plays out on Sundays the

2594
02:01:55,200 --> 02:01:57,120
Speaker 1: Bengal Tomorrow. We'll get into a lot more of that

2595
02:01:57,160 --> 02:02:01,000
Speaker 1: as well. But we've we've also we heard from Leslie Frasier. Today,

2596
02:02:01,040 --> 02:02:02,600
Speaker 1: we also heard from Brian Dabo. We might have a

2597
02:02:02,640 --> 02:02:04,200
Speaker 1: little more sound from day ball. We might want to

2598
02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:06,920
Speaker 1: get to if we if we have time. But lots

2599
02:02:07,000 --> 02:02:09,200
Speaker 1: going on in this game, because now it's coming down

2600
02:02:09,280 --> 02:02:13,680
Speaker 1: to you think about this and these coach has been

2601
02:02:13,760 --> 02:02:17,560
Speaker 1: coaching these guys since April, early April, and they've been

2602
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:20,680
Speaker 1: on the field with these guys doing stuff install and

2603
02:02:20,760 --> 02:02:23,160
Speaker 1: coaching them up, trying to make them better, getting feedback

2604
02:02:23,240 --> 02:02:25,400
Speaker 1: and you know, having relationships with all these guys. And

2605
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:27,560
Speaker 1: it's like Rod Streeter told us today, it's a it's

2606
02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:31,400
Speaker 1: a very family like atmosphere. And a week from Saturday,

2607
02:02:32,040 --> 02:02:34,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to cut a couple of kids from

2608
02:02:34,320 --> 02:02:37,880
Speaker 1: your family. It's a hard decision and they want to

2609
02:02:37,920 --> 02:02:40,720
Speaker 1: get it right. Uh. There's a lot of emotion that

2610
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:43,840
Speaker 1: goes into these decisions and a lot of a lot

2611
02:02:43,880 --> 02:02:46,800
Speaker 1: of conversation and a lot of arguing and debate that's

2612
02:02:46,800 --> 02:02:50,760
Speaker 1: going to happen over the next few weeks, and some

2613
02:02:50,920 --> 02:02:53,960
Speaker 1: of it's going to take place Sunday, but a lot

2614
02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:56,000
Speaker 1: of it is going to take place after the Chicago

2615
02:02:56,120 --> 02:03:00,680
Speaker 1: game coming up, the last game of the preseason. Let's

2616
02:03:00,680 --> 02:03:02,800
Speaker 1: take some more of your calls. Let's go to a

2617
02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:05,720
Speaker 1: Ken in Buffalo. Welcome to the show, Ken, How you're

2618
02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:10,360
Speaker 1: on the air with us? Hey, how are you guys? Okay? Good? Good? Hey?

2619
02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:13,920
Speaker 1: Kind of interesting. I've been listening to the you know,

2620
02:03:14,040 --> 02:03:17,480
Speaker 1: the callins, and it seems like everybody's pretty pumped up

2621
02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:20,320
Speaker 1: and excited about the bills. Yet when I listen to

2622
02:03:20,480 --> 02:03:23,200
Speaker 1: whether it be your show, the guys in the morning,

2623
02:03:23,280 --> 02:03:27,840
Speaker 1: guys after you, all, the national experts kind of place

2624
02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:30,640
Speaker 1: them as a five win, six win the team. Some

2625
02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:35,200
Speaker 1: some actually pick them for a bottom five. Yes, kind

2626
02:03:35,240 --> 02:03:38,480
Speaker 1: of wondering where you go from from a playoff team

2627
02:03:38,680 --> 02:03:41,760
Speaker 1: to now all of a sudden, the expectations are five wins,

2628
02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:44,800
Speaker 1: six wins, and everybody seems excited about it because like

2629
02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:47,360
Speaker 1: we're moving in the right direction. If we dropped back

2630
02:03:47,400 --> 02:03:50,320
Speaker 1: four or five wins going from Tyrod to Josh or

2631
02:03:50,880 --> 02:03:53,879
Speaker 1: Er Peterman, that doesn't seem like really the right direction.

2632
02:03:53,920 --> 02:03:55,680
Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean we're gonna win five games. We

2633
02:03:55,800 --> 02:03:58,040
Speaker 1: might win them all, but it just kind of seems

2634
02:03:58,040 --> 02:04:02,000
Speaker 1: like everybody coming off finely, breaking that losing streak, that

2635
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:04,640
Speaker 1: everybody's okay with it. The other thing that I wanted

2636
02:04:04,680 --> 02:04:07,919
Speaker 1: to kind of know is after that whole Rush Brandon episode.

2637
02:04:08,960 --> 02:04:11,960
Speaker 1: You used to see Warren Hall all the time on stuff,

2638
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:16,080
Speaker 1: and now she's here today I start working today. I'm sorry,

2639
02:04:16,120 --> 02:04:18,360
Speaker 1: do we lose them? I guess we lost him. Yeah,

2640
02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:23,600
Speaker 1: Lauren is here. Yeah, she's here. Yeah. I don't know

2641
02:04:23,640 --> 02:04:26,240
Speaker 1: about national expectations. I think you know. And I did

2642
02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:31,520
Speaker 1: find it interesting that our guests today, Andy Benoit, had

2643
02:04:31,560 --> 02:04:34,240
Speaker 1: the bills with four winds. I consider Andy an astute

2644
02:04:34,280 --> 02:04:40,640
Speaker 1: observer and a tremendous watcher and greater of film, and

2645
02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:43,120
Speaker 1: four winds surprised me. But I think some things don't

2646
02:04:43,120 --> 02:04:45,560
Speaker 1: come across when you look at the bills and see,

2647
02:04:45,840 --> 02:04:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, who's gone from last year offensive lineman notably,

2648
02:04:49,400 --> 02:04:52,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback notably. But I do think people underestimate the

2649
02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:55,720
Speaker 1: impact that Sean McDermott has on this team. And I

2650
02:04:55,800 --> 02:04:58,879
Speaker 1: think people other than the quarterback and those two offensive

2651
02:04:58,960 --> 02:05:02,240
Speaker 1: ensive linemen, we're looking at essentially a lot of the

2652
02:05:02,280 --> 02:05:04,240
Speaker 1: same cast of characters and maybe even better this we

2653
02:05:04,400 --> 02:05:06,440
Speaker 1: We just said you said it a couple of times

2654
02:05:06,440 --> 02:05:08,240
Speaker 1: today and I said, that's a topic for next week.

2655
02:05:08,440 --> 02:05:11,560
Speaker 1: Bill's roster better or worse than last year at this

2656
02:05:11,680 --> 02:05:14,880
Speaker 1: time going into the year. I would I would carry

2657
02:05:14,920 --> 02:05:16,560
Speaker 1: on a debate about that because I think that's a

2658
02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:18,880
Speaker 1: that's an interesting topic. I think the way it stands now,

2659
02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:21,520
Speaker 1: if you're gonna go like week one of the regular season, um,

2660
02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:25,160
Speaker 1: and you think, well, okay, then Sammy Watkins wasn't here. Um,

2661
02:05:26,080 --> 02:05:30,040
Speaker 1: you know that they make the trade for Ron Darby.

2662
02:05:30,240 --> 02:05:32,800
Speaker 1: A lot of question marks coming in, brand new secondary,

2663
02:05:32,880 --> 02:05:36,080
Speaker 1: everybody was new on the secondary. They had lost Aaron Williams,

2664
02:05:36,160 --> 02:05:39,800
Speaker 1: the safety um and people were thinking this was going

2665
02:05:39,880 --> 02:05:42,600
Speaker 1: to be a three win team last year, and it

2666
02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:45,680
Speaker 1: seems like this is a rerun of it. Although I

2667
02:05:46,040 --> 02:05:48,000
Speaker 1: think for you and me and I've been I think

2668
02:05:48,040 --> 02:05:51,200
Speaker 1: this is a more talented roster than it was a year.

2669
02:05:51,320 --> 02:05:55,240
Speaker 1: I gotta think about that and next week, Yeah, we'll

2670
02:05:55,280 --> 02:05:58,040
Speaker 1: save some save it, we'll save it. But certainly I

2671
02:05:58,120 --> 02:06:00,400
Speaker 1: think the defensive front from what we saw year ago,

2672
02:06:00,480 --> 02:06:03,480
Speaker 1: this one's more talented. But all right, well i'll save it.

2673
02:06:03,560 --> 02:06:06,040
Speaker 1: Say we'll save it. NFL true and false. It is

2674
02:06:06,080 --> 02:06:08,440
Speaker 1: brought to you by Yancey's fancy New York starts and cheese.

2675
02:06:08,480 --> 02:06:09,600
Speaker 1: We haven't done this in a few days. Are you

2676
02:06:09,640 --> 02:06:13,000
Speaker 1: ready for this? Sea? Go Texans? Houston Texans the most

2677
02:06:13,120 --> 02:06:16,040
Speaker 1: likely worst the first team for the upcoming season. The

2678
02:06:16,160 --> 02:06:20,240
Speaker 1: Houston Texans chances of making the playoffs forty three percent

2679
02:06:20,320 --> 02:06:24,560
Speaker 1: according to ESPN, chances of winning their division twenty nine percent.

2680
02:06:24,600 --> 02:06:27,720
Speaker 1: According to ESPN, Texans go worst to first the most

2681
02:06:27,800 --> 02:06:30,240
Speaker 1: likely team to go worst to first. What do you think,

2682
02:06:30,360 --> 02:06:32,640
Speaker 1: I think true. I think it's probably true. I think

2683
02:06:32,680 --> 02:06:35,400
Speaker 1: so true, mostly because of the questions that there are

2684
02:06:35,680 --> 02:06:40,960
Speaker 1: at quarterback in Indianapolis not at Houston. Yeah, I don't

2685
02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:43,440
Speaker 1: think Indianapolis's roster is there quite there yet, and I

2686
02:06:43,480 --> 02:06:45,520
Speaker 1: think Andrew luck is gonna make a difference, but he's rusty.

2687
02:06:45,560 --> 02:06:47,600
Speaker 1: If they get out of the blocks slow, I think

2688
02:06:47,640 --> 02:06:50,680
Speaker 1: Houston's gonna hit the ground running. I think they're very talented,

2689
02:06:51,640 --> 02:06:55,240
Speaker 1: and I think Bill O'Brien's got a nice program there,

2690
02:06:55,360 --> 02:06:57,880
Speaker 1: and so I say, yeah, they are the most likely.

2691
02:06:57,880 --> 02:07:00,400
Speaker 1: You look around the league, I think there's a lot

2692
02:07:00,440 --> 02:07:03,360
Speaker 1: of teams, well there's you know, there's not that many

2693
02:07:03,600 --> 02:07:05,720
Speaker 1: that go worse because there's not that many worse teams.

2694
02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:09,879
Speaker 1: But in divisions, I think the Houston Texans are perfectly

2695
02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:12,160
Speaker 1: primed to jump back where they were just before Deshaun

2696
02:07:12,200 --> 02:07:14,840
Speaker 1: Watson got injured last year. Who would be the other candidates? Um,

2697
02:07:15,240 --> 02:07:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. The Bears, No, not likely, the Jets, no,

2698
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:22,040
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, no, Cleveland absolutely not. Yeah, I think they

2699
02:07:22,080 --> 02:07:24,920
Speaker 1: are probably the most likely worst the first team. One

2700
02:07:25,040 --> 02:07:30,520
Speaker 1: more on the true or false calendar. Here the helmet rule.

2701
02:07:30,560 --> 02:07:32,880
Speaker 1: We heard the story that was in the rundown earlier

2702
02:07:32,920 --> 02:07:36,040
Speaker 1: today about they're not going to change the helmet the rule,

2703
02:07:36,080 --> 02:07:39,560
Speaker 1: the helmet hit rule, no lowering the helmet to initiate contact.

2704
02:07:39,920 --> 02:07:44,480
Speaker 1: How about using replay true? False? NFL should use replay

2705
02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:47,280
Speaker 1: to fix the helmet rule. You know which way I'm

2706
02:07:47,320 --> 02:07:50,280
Speaker 1: coming down on this. Yeah, I don't. I say it's false.

2707
02:07:50,320 --> 02:07:52,800
Speaker 1: I get rid of the replay rule. Don't start extending it, don't. No,

2708
02:07:52,840 --> 02:07:54,680
Speaker 1: I don't think they should use replay to fix the

2709
02:07:54,960 --> 02:07:57,080
Speaker 1: helmet rule. They had fifty one calls. I don't know

2710
02:07:57,120 --> 02:07:58,840
Speaker 1: if you've some of you have seen this. They had

2711
02:07:58,880 --> 02:08:02,720
Speaker 1: fifty one helmet rules called helmet infractions called in the

2712
02:08:02,760 --> 02:08:06,560
Speaker 1: first two weeks. Eleven of them were wrong by league.

2713
02:08:06,680 --> 02:08:08,440
Speaker 1: That's too many, by the way, it is too many.

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Speaker 1: But everybody's up in arms over it, and I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't remember it being an issue in the games

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02:08:16,480 --> 02:08:18,280
Speaker 1: that we've covered for the Bills. In the last two

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02:08:18,320 --> 02:08:19,840
Speaker 1: games of the Bills have there's been one or two

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02:08:19,880 --> 02:08:22,680
Speaker 1: of them called in the games for Buffalo, and I

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02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:29,040
Speaker 1: don't remember them being egregious, right or wrong, or game changers. Now,

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02:08:29,120 --> 02:08:31,760
Speaker 1: obviously a fifteen yard penalty automatic first down is going

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02:08:31,800 --> 02:08:33,280
Speaker 1: to be a game changer at some point in the

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02:08:33,560 --> 02:08:36,680
Speaker 1: in the season. But if they get it right, I

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02:08:36,680 --> 02:08:38,640
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with it. If it's the right call,

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02:08:38,920 --> 02:08:40,440
Speaker 1: call it, and I don't have a problem with it.

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02:08:41,600 --> 02:08:43,520
Speaker 1: I think it'll do wonders for cleaning up the game,

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02:08:43,600 --> 02:08:47,000
Speaker 1: So I'd say true, I don't know, no no replay

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02:08:47,080 --> 02:08:49,520
Speaker 1: for the helmet rule. I am willing to let the

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02:08:49,720 --> 02:08:52,680
Speaker 1: NFL because of the importance of this rule and the

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02:08:52,760 --> 02:08:55,440
Speaker 1: importance of getting PEP players out of the habit of

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02:08:55,720 --> 02:08:59,400
Speaker 1: leading with their helmet and initiating contract contact with their helmet.

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02:08:59,680 --> 02:09:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm willing to let the league kind of work through

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02:09:02,200 --> 02:09:04,560
Speaker 1: this a little bit, make some mistakes. Have eleven bad

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02:09:04,640 --> 02:09:06,240
Speaker 1: calls in the first fifty one, I would give it

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02:09:06,240 --> 02:09:07,840
Speaker 1: a couple. I would give it even in the regular

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02:09:07,880 --> 02:09:11,800
Speaker 1: season until everybody there's a consensus on what the penalty

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02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:13,520
Speaker 1: is and how it should be enforced. I'm willing to

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02:09:13,560 --> 02:09:16,040
Speaker 1: do that. Smooth That's what I'm looking for. Yeah, they'll

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02:09:16,240 --> 02:09:18,080
Speaker 1: they'll run, they'll smooth out the rough edges. They'll be

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02:09:18,160 --> 02:09:20,480
Speaker 1: one occasionally in there'll be some into the regular season,

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02:09:20,520 --> 02:09:22,280
Speaker 1: but it'll get better as the time goes on. And

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02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:25,840
Speaker 1: they'll also be uh some. And it's going to get

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02:09:25,880 --> 02:09:27,680
Speaker 1: to the point now where fans are going to start saying, hey,

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02:09:27,800 --> 02:09:30,200
Speaker 1: that should have been a helmet call. You know, they'll

2744
02:09:30,240 --> 02:09:31,880
Speaker 1: start calling them out, honey, you know what I mean.

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02:09:32,200 --> 02:09:35,120
Speaker 1: Anytime you can second exactly, they'll do it. And it

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02:09:35,160 --> 02:09:36,840
Speaker 1: won't be about It won't be about the rule a

2747
02:09:36,880 --> 02:09:38,960
Speaker 1: little about be about getting the rule right, and that's

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02:09:39,000 --> 02:09:41,240
Speaker 1: what people will gravitate towards. Steve and I back in

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Speaker 1: a moment. One Bill's Live presented by Kalaida Health from

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02:09:43,800 --> 02:10:01,440
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive And this is Buffalo Bill's Radio Time.

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02:10:03,800 --> 02:10:06,680
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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Good Show Today, Dave Lapham joined US thirty

2756
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:18,680
Speaker 1: third season as the color analysts on the Cincinnati Bengals

2757
02:10:18,760 --> 02:10:21,480
Speaker 1: radio network. We talked to Dave Lapham about the Bengals,

2758
02:10:21,520 --> 02:10:24,920
Speaker 1: about Andy Dalton and what the veteran quarterback for the

2759
02:10:24,960 --> 02:10:27,360
Speaker 1: Bengals has in store for this season. Here's what he said.

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02:10:28,640 --> 02:10:30,839
Speaker 1: In the past, the Bengals were a team that retreated

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02:10:30,880 --> 02:10:33,080
Speaker 1: and caught. You know, they were catching instead of using

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02:10:33,120 --> 02:10:36,440
Speaker 1: their hands and conjolting people and taking them on quickly

2763
02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:38,320
Speaker 1: at the line of screens. Will be doing that more now.

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02:10:38,400 --> 02:10:41,320
Speaker 1: So Anti dal pockets has had some whipping depth to it,

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02:10:41,360 --> 02:10:43,520
Speaker 1: and he's been able to step up in the pocket,

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02:10:43,600 --> 02:10:45,680
Speaker 1: climb the pockets and make plays when he's had too.

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02:10:45,760 --> 02:10:48,520
Speaker 1: And in the past the pockets been collapsing on him

2768
02:10:48,560 --> 02:10:50,440
Speaker 1: and he's been thrown out of a hole. I mean

2769
02:10:50,440 --> 02:10:53,040
Speaker 1: there's two things to pass protection, only time but space.

2770
02:10:53,600 --> 02:10:56,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes he had neither, and other times he had maybe

2771
02:10:56,720 --> 02:10:59,040
Speaker 1: time but no space. He couldn't see everything was in

2772
02:10:59,120 --> 02:11:01,760
Speaker 1: the space. So he gets the ball out of sham

2773
02:11:01,920 --> 02:11:04,120
Speaker 1: very quickly. I think he's gonna have a you know,

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02:11:04,200 --> 02:11:06,280
Speaker 1: a good year this year and pick up from where

2775
02:11:06,280 --> 02:11:08,080
Speaker 1: he left off last year. The last couple of games

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02:11:08,120 --> 02:11:10,040
Speaker 1: of the season. You know, we're pretty good for the

2777
02:11:10,120 --> 02:11:13,800
Speaker 1: offense compared to the way it was. Bengal's coming into

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02:11:13,960 --> 02:11:15,840
Speaker 1: town on Sunday to play the Bills. Also on the

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Speaker 1: show today, Andy Benoit from Sports Illustrated dot Com and MMQB.

2780
02:11:20,760 --> 02:11:23,360
Speaker 1: He did a preseason evaluation of the Buffalo Bills. He

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02:11:23,440 --> 02:11:25,680
Speaker 1: only picks him for four wins, but he says there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of similarities between Bill's quarterback Josh Allen and

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02:11:28,880 --> 02:11:33,880
Speaker 1: Carolina quarterback Cam Newton. Here's what he said. Josh Allen's

2784
02:11:33,880 --> 02:11:37,839
Speaker 1: a big, strong, power thrower with the occasional accuracy issues,

2785
02:11:37,880 --> 02:11:40,640
Speaker 1: and the debate is can that get cleaned up or not.

2786
02:11:40,840 --> 02:11:43,280
Speaker 1: So you've got a downfield power throw a guy like that,

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02:11:43,440 --> 02:11:45,600
Speaker 1: you want to have him throwing down field. It's not

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02:11:45,680 --> 02:11:48,400
Speaker 1: at thinking dunk type of quarterback there. And then the

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02:11:48,440 --> 02:11:51,680
Speaker 1: other part that gets overlooked with Allen is his mobility.

2790
02:11:51,840 --> 02:11:55,160
Speaker 1: He's a big, powerful runner. He's not quite Cam Newton

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02:11:55,320 --> 02:11:58,200
Speaker 1: in that sense. Newton's a better athlete, and then not

2792
02:11:58,320 --> 02:12:01,000
Speaker 1: by far, but Newton's a better athlete, more dynamic player,

2793
02:12:01,400 --> 02:12:03,600
Speaker 1: but you can Allen's good enough that you can do

2794
02:12:03,720 --> 02:12:05,920
Speaker 1: the same stuff with him that the Panthers did with

2795
02:12:06,080 --> 02:12:10,520
Speaker 1: Newton interesting pots. John Murphy, Steve Tasker just a minute

2796
02:12:10,600 --> 02:12:12,920
Speaker 1: or two left in today's show, and we started out

2797
02:12:12,920 --> 02:12:15,840
Speaker 1: and asking folks the question, what does Josh Allen have

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02:12:15,960 --> 02:12:19,320
Speaker 1: to do to become the bill starter? On September nine, Steven,

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02:12:19,360 --> 02:12:20,800
Speaker 1: I think we got a pretty good cross section of

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02:12:21,120 --> 02:12:25,440
Speaker 1: people's expectations. It's not just numbers, it's not just touchdowns

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02:12:25,560 --> 02:12:28,200
Speaker 1: or scoring drives. And the best comment I thought came

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Speaker 1: from John McDermot yesterday when he said, basically, we'll know

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02:12:31,320 --> 02:12:33,560
Speaker 1: it when we see it. Yeah, we all know what

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02:12:33,640 --> 02:12:35,960
Speaker 1: it looks like. We know what it feels like. Certainly

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Speaker 1: the guys in that locker room and the coaching staff

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02:12:37,720 --> 02:12:40,560
Speaker 1: know what it feels like for a guy to look

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02:12:40,640 --> 02:12:44,680
Speaker 1: like that's starting quarterback, quality guy. And I think fans

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02:12:44,720 --> 02:12:46,760
Speaker 1: are gonna, you know, they're gonna have their opinions after

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02:12:46,840 --> 02:12:48,800
Speaker 1: this game, because this is the game that it's time

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02:12:48,880 --> 02:12:51,680
Speaker 1: to form that opinion. Let's see who are starters gonna be?

2811
02:12:51,800 --> 02:12:55,200
Speaker 1: And if it's easy, you saw Nate Peterman start, you

2812
02:12:55,280 --> 02:12:58,280
Speaker 1: saw Aj McCarron start. You saw both those guys look

2813
02:12:58,320 --> 02:13:00,320
Speaker 1: good at times, and you've seen Josh Allen look good

2814
02:13:00,320 --> 02:13:02,880
Speaker 1: at times, but this is extended period. I want to

2815
02:13:02,920 --> 02:13:05,320
Speaker 1: know what he's gonna do and how he's gonna look

2816
02:13:05,360 --> 02:13:08,800
Speaker 1: and if he looks good. Wow, it's getting to the

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02:13:08,800 --> 02:13:10,880
Speaker 1: point where you gotta make that call if you're dude,

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02:13:10,880 --> 02:13:13,160
Speaker 1: it's getting close. What a show we have tomorrow, Steve,

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02:13:13,200 --> 02:13:16,320
Speaker 1: are you ready for this one? Yeah? Preston Brown one

2820
02:13:16,360 --> 02:13:18,960
Speaker 1: of the all time recent favorites. I like Preston Brown

2821
02:13:19,000 --> 02:13:21,280
Speaker 1: a lot. He's now the middle linebacker for the Bengals.

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02:13:21,320 --> 02:13:23,880
Speaker 1: He'll be on with us tomorrow. Charles Davis, one of

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02:13:23,920 --> 02:13:26,320
Speaker 1: the all time favorite broadcaster, does a great job. He'll

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02:13:26,320 --> 02:13:29,200
Speaker 1: be calling the game on Fox TV this weekend. Mark Kelso,

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02:13:29,640 --> 02:13:32,280
Speaker 1: need I say more? And Lorenzo Alexander Auto them on

2826
02:13:32,360 --> 02:13:34,080
Speaker 1: our show tomorrow. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: like a regular season Friday tomorrow. It'll be really fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: where's coast into the parking space tomorrow? About stroll on

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Speaker 1: and talk to the guests. Thank you great, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: our production assistants, George Blastjeff Coltnick Thomas, Honolder, Kelly Rude,

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02:13:48,320 --> 02:13:51,920
Speaker 1: JJ Teredo, Kevin Cargi, James Robell, our producer, Jay Harris.

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Speaker 1: That's it. For us today, but we're back tomorrow for

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Speaker 1: a Friday show. We love those Friday shows. Twelve noon

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Speaker 1: tomorrow till three One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Hell

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Speaker 1: from One Bills Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio h