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This show is all about celebrating 20 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: the most extraordinary superwoman who will be sharing their incredible 21 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: journeys to the top, all while staying glamorous. Today with me, 22 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm joined by Jamie Cherrell, professionally known as Nurse Jamie. 23 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: She's everyone's favorite celebrity skin expert, television executive producer, and 24 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: reality television personality. Jamie is responsible for some of the 25 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: most beautiful faces in Hollywood, and she's expanded her career 26 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: and created incredible beauty tools. I use them all and 27 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: products from being a flight attendant and house cleaner to 28 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: winning the showcase Showdown on the Price Is Right. Jamie's 29 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: story is so much fun and she is so wonderful, 30 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: so let's get right into it. Her story is awesome. 31 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: So I know that you grew up in Indiana, and yes, 32 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: like I want to know what was Jamie and Indiana? Like, 33 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: were you a good student? By the way, we didn't 34 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: talk about that because I already kind of know the answer, 35 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: But I'm just going to ask you anyway, were you 36 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: a good student? 37 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I think I was an okay student. I 38 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: think I was. I think I was okay. 39 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 4: I was good enough, Like I never really studied, but 40 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 4: I always did okay on tests. So I have a really, 41 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: really good memory. But I'm not great at studying and 42 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 4: doing things I don't want to do. 43 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 44 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: I don't know anyone like that. I don't relate to 45 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: that at all at all. Common thread. Common thread not good. 46 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: I'm not good at anything that I don't like to do. 47 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: That's the reality. Okay, Indiana, do you go to college? 48 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: Did we go to college? Yes, we did. 49 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 4: I went to college. I always had a million jobs 50 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 4: because I grew up on a farm. And like, my 51 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 4: closest neighbor when I grew up was five miles away. 52 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 3: Now I still actually have that. 53 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 4: Farm, but it is I inherited it from my parents, 54 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 4: but it is now the closest neighbor is about a 55 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 4: mile and a half away, So it is, it's out there. 56 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: So so, Nurse Jamie, I just want to rewind grew 57 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: up on a farm in Indiana. So and like humble, yeah, 58 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: like very. 59 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: Like yeah, so did you get you know, here's. 60 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: Do you get milk? Cows and like chicken. 61 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: I didn't have had beef cattle, but yeah we had cows. 62 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: Dairy is a whole different thing. But yeah, we had beef. 63 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: But I got to tell you, I got liposeection and 64 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: when I was seventeen years old. 65 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: My parents never knew. I actually told my. 66 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: Mom, like, uh, they passed out these credit card applications. 67 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 4: I don't know if they still do that, hopefully they don't, 68 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 4: but I'm lied on the application. Like it was the 69 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 4: senior year and they passed out these credit card applications 70 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 4: and so I I don't know. I'd read about LiPo 71 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 4: section and a magazine and decided it was for me. 72 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 4: Like I was just always into procedures. I know, this 73 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: is crazy, this terrible story. 74 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 3: Don't do that. 75 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: No, No, it's actually it's actually a great story because 76 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 1: I really think it's important to kind of like talk 77 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: very openly about because this informs very much how you 78 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: got here. So I mean seventeen years old. At seventeen 79 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: years old, I was making out with boys in hallways 80 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: and like hoping I got in on getting right. And 81 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: that's why I think that's so interesting, because I that's admiring. 82 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 3: My parents never knew. 83 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 4: I drove to Indianapolis and I stayed with Tina Reynolds 84 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 4: two days later, you know, and I had to wear 85 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 4: all those compression garments and I actually just played that 86 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 4: credit card bill off A couple of years ago, because 87 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 4: you know the interest rate. 88 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: But it was like I can't always do that. 89 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you, how did I pay for it? 90 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 4: How do I pray for the passe credit card applications 91 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 4: they give new credit to. I actually lied I was seventeen, 92 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 4: lied and said I. 93 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 3: Was eighteen, and nobody really checked it. And I got LiPo. 94 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 3: So I don't know, just goes tell you. 95 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 2: I am dead. So that is how it all started. 96 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so you're seventeen, you got LiPo section, which by 97 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: the way, is not a nothing thing. 98 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: From what I understand. It's like a big deal, right. 99 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 4: No, Yeah, it actually was not a good procedure, but 100 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 4: it was. I was did not need it. You know, 101 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 4: it's really hard to light bow in the legs. I've 102 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 4: had to do many procedures to try to correct it, 103 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 4: so that would be another thing i'd tell people not 104 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 4: to do. Yeah. It was just like the start of 105 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 4: the interest into the cosmetic world. Sure, so yeah, and 106 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 4: I started working Yeah. 107 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 2: Go on, no, no, go ahead, go ahead. Then you 108 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: started working. 109 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 4: Noah, I started working for again kind of the interest 110 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 4: without having the money. So I started working for a 111 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 4: group of dorms and plastic surgeons in Indianapolis when I 112 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 4: was in going to school at Ball State, and then 113 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 4: I started off pre med actually, and then it was just. 114 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 3: So much reading. 115 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 4: So I just I literally went to nursing school and 116 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 4: it was literally I didn't even have to crack a book. 117 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: It was like kind of like I coasted through that 118 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: and I did. I started. I loved I loved doing 119 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 3: the procedures. 120 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 4: It was a Coherent laser company, which is no longer 121 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: in resistance but now they are owned by Luminus and 122 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 4: it's one of the largest laser companies. And I learned 123 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 4: so much about lasers because we wrote the manuals for them. 124 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 4: I mean, so it was it was a great And 125 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 4: this is like a long time ago. This is like 126 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 4: in the nineteen forties when the earth cooled, so I 127 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 4: knew lasers before they were cool, you know. 128 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: So it was a long long time ago. 129 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: Wait, I'm dead, so but yeah. But by the way, 130 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: this is what you call on the job training. Like 131 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't like, oh, I'm going to this school, I'm 132 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: going to that school. I want to learn this and 133 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: get certified in that. It's like you literally were like, 134 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: this is my passion. I'm obsessed with this and I 135 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: want to do this and you obviously have a gift 136 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: for it, you know, it's not you know, I think 137 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: in the world of dermatology, like, of course there's so 138 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: many people that are certified in this and went to 139 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: Harvard and this and that the other thing. But like, 140 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I actually think that 141 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: the best ones are the ones that are actually artists 142 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: and look at the face. Like, you know, people say, oh, 143 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: what does Jamie do for you? And I always answer, 144 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: I have actually no idea. She just looks at me 145 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: and we talk and she things and they're like, have 146 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: you done this laser? 147 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know. I don't know. I literally 148 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: don't know. 149 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: So I think and you know, I also want to 150 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: say for my listeners that. 151 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: There are. 152 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: Few faces, very few that you have not touched in 153 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: one way or another. In Hollywood, I would like to say, 154 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: and that you know, if you go to Nurse Jamie's 155 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: office in Brentwood, it's like you just don't know. She's 156 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: very private with her clients, so you don't know who's 157 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: leaving and going. But it's always someone really good. It's 158 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: always someone really good, and she doesn't tell because it's 159 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: doctor patient confidentiality, nurse patient doctor. 160 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: Conn that's right, that's right, confidentiality. Yes, but then what happens? 161 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: Then what happens? 162 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: So you go and you do all these things, you learn, 163 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: you get lepo like a lunatic at seventeen, and then 164 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: you work at a and you start telling people like 165 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: you have the gift of being, like you need this, 166 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: you need this, I think you should do this. 167 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you do this? And you are very fearless, right, 168 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: you are fearless. 169 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 4: You Well, what happened was like this has been a 170 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 4: long time ago, right, so this is like twenty five 171 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 4: years ago or I can't even remember. 172 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: I've lost track of time. But it's a long time ago. 173 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 4: And I, you know, I wasn't licensed to do things, 174 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 4: but they called me into the back office because I 175 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 4: was just so great with the patients, and they said, 176 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 4: and I started telling people up front, you know, oh 177 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 4: well I think you should Like filler was out, but 178 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 4: it was called zyclass and ziderm and botox had just 179 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 4: started and. 180 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: Different and different things, and I would tell people what 181 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: to do. 182 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 4: And then it got to be where I started pointing 183 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 4: out to the doctors I'd say, okay, you know, you 184 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 4: they should do a little here this side, you know, 185 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 4: this lip is a little lower, and then patients would 186 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: it just kind of was like a slow transition from me. 187 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 4: Then they wouldn't even book. 188 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: Unless I was there and to say where it should go. 189 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: And then well, also I think probably because they were 190 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: all men, right, Yeah, yeah, I think so. 191 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: I think that's not always the case. 192 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, but but at the time at the time, yea, 193 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: the office you're working and was all men. And I 194 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: think that like as a woman, I think, you know. 195 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 4: There's just a comfortability and yeah, a trust and you know, 196 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 4: I had nothing to gain financially, you know, I made 197 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 4: the same hourly rate, you know, whether it was and yeah, 198 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: so I think there was like a trust and a 199 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 4: comfortability and yeah, I. 200 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 3: Just then people started requesting me. And at that time, 201 00:10:59,040 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: as long as. 202 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 4: You work under the umbrella a physician like you could 203 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 4: do things. And lasers had just come out. It was 204 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 4: like the internet. You know, it was a while while west, 205 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: so there really weren't requirements like there are today because 206 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 4: I am licensed now, but at the time, a long 207 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 4: time ago, when it first came out, like I just 208 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 4: I just wasn't as long. 209 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: As you worked under the umbrella of a physician. It was. 210 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 4: I guess I was certified at the time because I 211 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 4: met that requirement at that time. 212 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 3: But it was basically just on the job training. 213 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: And then and so okay, so when did you say, like, 214 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm good, I know how to do this, I'm great 215 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: at this, this is my gift. 216 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: I'm going on that. 217 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 4: You know. Basically what happened is they change the law. 218 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: So I went to the doctor that I worked for. 219 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 4: You know, I was making so much money for him. 220 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 4: He basically paid for me to go to school. But then, sadly, 221 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 4: I guess for him. The day I graduated, I basically 222 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 4: went to California because I always I have to rewind 223 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 4: a little bit. I always had several jobs, like I 224 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 4: cleaned houses. I oh my gosh, I was a flight 225 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 4: attendant because like I'm from the. 226 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can see that. I could totally. 227 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: I was a flight attendant. 228 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: And I bet you were so ry. 229 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: And I watched I. 230 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 4: Watched The Prices right in college, like me and my 231 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 4: roommates we watch every day, right, and we'd fight over 232 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 4: who's yogurt. It was in the refrigerator and sat down 233 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: and watch the show. Well, of course my very first layover, 234 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 4: my very first time in California. I had twelve hours 235 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 4: in California and I had a layover. 236 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 3: Here, and of course we I begged everybody. 237 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 4: We were on like an L ten crew, so there's 238 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 4: twelve of us, and I asked everybody to go to 239 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 4: the Prices right with me, and you had to get 240 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 4: up in line at like at three o'clock in the morning. 241 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 4: And They're like, we have twelve hours here, there's no 242 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 4: way we're getting up. And I was like, I'm going. 243 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 4: I'll sleep when I'm dead. I'm going to the Prices, right. 244 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 4: So I went and I won the showcase showdown. So 245 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 4: I won the whole Enchilada. I won the Klondike bars, 246 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: the luggage, the trip to Italy, a mopad, I won everything. 247 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: So how did I not know this about you? How 248 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: this is the best thing ever? 249 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: Okay, go, I. 250 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 3: Have to send you my video. 251 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: This is really the greatest thing ever. Okay, Okay, keep going. 252 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: I am literally riveted right now, Okay can tell me yes. 253 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 3: So I. 254 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 4: Was like, and well, I stayed at the Renaissance Hotel, 255 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 4: which is still here, to this day, I went to 256 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 4: get a diet coke because you know, I'm from Indiana 257 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 4: and I wasn't twenty one, so there weren't any machines. 258 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 4: So I asked this guy to get me a coke 259 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 4: at the bar because I was afraid to go in. 260 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 4: And he was this really attractive, like handsome, forty year 261 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 4: old man, and he took me out to dinner. 262 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: I in a limo. This is again a long time ago. 263 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 4: He didn't kill me, and I had the most romantic 264 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 4: date ever. And I was like, and then the next morning, 265 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 4: I think barely a few hours later, I had sushi 266 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 4: for the first time, and I was like. 267 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: California is the best place in the whole world. 268 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I have to move here. 269 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: So I and you had no money. You had barely 270 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: any money, right. 271 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: Like you were literally like you were you were like, yeah, they. 272 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 4: Had as a flight attendant, they served those Biscoff cookies. 273 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 4: So I like lived on Biscoff cookies and per DM money. 274 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 4: And I don't know, like if I wanted to, like, 275 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 4: if I wanted a car, I'd go work at a 276 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 4: car dealership for a short time. If I wanted my lips, 277 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 4: I'd work at this place. So I just was very 278 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 4: much like I I was a hard worker. So yeah, 279 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 4: and to this day, I can, you know, work almost 280 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 4: anybody under the table, but can Yeah. I I don't 281 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 4: mind to work. I like to work, so and I 282 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 4: love what I do. Literally, I started it when I 283 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 4: was seventeen and I never left. So it's I dream 284 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 4: about it in the shower. I love it, like I 285 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 4: loved that. I lived for the makeover. I just I 286 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 4: lived for it. Even after all these years. It's so 287 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 4: much fun for me. It's just like arts and crafts. 288 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: No, it really is. And I think that's the thing. 289 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: I think You're just like, I don't know. I just think, well, 290 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: first of all, that's like one of the most amazing 291 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: stories I've ever heard. And like what a curveball, because 292 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: I really wasn't expecting that, And like here I thought 293 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: I knew everything about you, but you actually won the prices, 294 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: right I did. 295 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: That is the sickest thing ever. Did you take the 296 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 2: trip to it? 297 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 3: I took my mom to Italy. 298 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it was our Yeah, it was our first time. 299 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 4: It was pretty, it was awesome. I loved it. 300 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: I loved it. 301 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 4: I had to pick quite a bit of tax on 302 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 4: that moped though, but it was worth it. 303 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: It's that time of year. 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So 326 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 4: I kept that gig going, and I decided I would 327 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 4: move downtown because I thought, for sure that's where it's happening, right, 328 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 4: because you know, I'm from Indiana, and I also thought 329 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 4: not so not anyway, So I moved downtown La, oh God, 330 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 4: and I worked at Goods Meridan Hospital and then I 331 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 4: started doing and I thought, here's the crazy thing is 332 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 4: I was from Indiana and the doctor that I've worked 333 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 4: for was from California, and he got a nurse pregnant 334 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 4: in Indiana, which is how he even stayed there. I'm 335 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 4: not sure how that. I can't remember his actual the 336 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 4: reason he was. 337 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 3: There, but that's why I go. 338 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 4: Already had my dual license right in California because I'd 339 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 4: come back and help him with hair, transports and different things. 340 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 4: So yeah, so I was traveling back and forth and 341 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 4: then I just literally moved here after. 342 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 3: My price is right trip and yeah, I don't know, 343 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 3: I love it. I love I love it here. I 344 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 3: love you know, home is always nice wherever. 345 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: Home is yeah, of course, but then you get okay, 346 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: kids are city kids. Well, so then you get married 347 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: at some point, how like how much later was that 348 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: and had you already started your practice before you got married? 349 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean my my first marriage. 350 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 4: I guess I'm going to call that a mulligan because 351 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 4: it was under a year, so it was a do over. 352 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: But we call it a blip. 353 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, the second one didn't work either. I guess 354 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 3: it doesn't work for me. But I do have three 355 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: beautiful children, all at once. 356 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: Can I add all at once at once? 357 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: Yes? I gave birth to triplets. 358 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: Literally we carried them full term as far as you 359 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: can with triplets. Yes, I had triplets, and she mother's 360 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: very hard. Three triplets, three three triplets, triplets, two girls, 361 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: one boy, two girls, one boy. 362 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 2: It's wild. 363 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 4: We used to do photoshoots at my house, which you've 364 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 4: done at my former home, which. 365 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 2: You've been there, actually, yes, but it. 366 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 3: Was so funny. 367 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 4: They were doing a photo shoot with Lily Collins and 368 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 4: I was huge. I mean, I'm carrying around four people. 369 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 4: I'm I'm like a whale, like just literally like giant. 370 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 4: I had walked like an old pair of scissors and 371 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 4: I pulled the big sub zero. 372 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: Refrigerator open, and. 373 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 4: I, well, you've had two berths, but I don't. I 374 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 4: never had a birth experience. So I opened the door 375 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 4: and I told my mom was there, thank god, And 376 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 4: I said, Mom, I peed. 377 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 3: Myself and she said, no, you didn't. 378 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 4: She goes your water broke and I had a famous 379 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 4: patient and I was like, I can't cancel on this person, 380 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 4: like she'll. I was like, I can't. I have to 381 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 4: go see her and I said, I don't have her number. 382 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 3: She's my first one. 383 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 4: I have to go see her and then i'll and 384 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 4: then I'll go check it out. And my mom said, well, 385 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 4: I've got a number and it's called nine to one one. 386 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 4: I'm gonna call it if you don't. 387 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 3: Go to the doctor. 388 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: She's like, Jamie, your water has broke and you have 389 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: triplets in your stomach. You're not going to do a 390 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: procedure at the moment you're not well. 391 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: Yes, So I. 392 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 4: Went to the doctor and then they admitted me, and 393 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 4: then my kids were born four days later. But yeah, 394 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 4: so they didn't let me go. But yeah, my water 395 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 4: did break, so thank goodness, my mother, I didn't you know, 396 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 4: I didn't know that it says, it doesn't have to 397 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 4: be this big gush. It can be like a little 398 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 4: like leak. So that's another thing to be aware of. 399 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 4: No light boat at seventeen. And beware of thinking you 400 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 4: feed yourself because maybe you're water broke. 401 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: I don't know fair enough prep prep for those pregnant. 402 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 1: Just no, you didn't pee, Possibly your water could be broken. 403 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 2: Truth. 404 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: Okay, So then okay, so we're divorced. We well, we 405 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: are not married now and we have triplets that are eleven. 406 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 3: Right, twelve, Trent twelve twelve. 407 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: So I will say you're one of the hardest, absolute 408 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: one of the hardest working women and anything women or 409 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: men that I've ever met. And you know, I do 410 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: think that your love for what you do is so 411 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: apparent because you never, like don't show up for people 412 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: like you just don't. It's weird because you know, as 413 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: a stylist in my like sort of height of the 414 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: styling career, everyone used to ask me, like, what separates you? 415 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: What separates you and I? And my answer was always, 416 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: I don't think of it as work. I love it, don't. 417 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: I don't say, oh, I got to go to work, 418 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: this is my job, like that It wasn't about the money, 419 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: and yea, I outworked everyone, you know, and it wasn't 420 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: a competition. It was just the drive for the love 421 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: of what you do, right, And so I really don't 422 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: see that in that many people. And I've just always 423 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: been attracted to that in you, always because you just 424 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: and you're the funniest and it's like you're just so 425 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: not the norm, right, I think nothing about you is 426 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: the norm, and I love that sweet and I think, 427 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: but I do want to say that like your patients 428 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: slash clients can't do anything without you. They're like, oh 429 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: my god, you have to take me. I just got 430 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: off the plane. Oh my god, I have six red 431 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: carpets this week. I have to come by. And if 432 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: you guys could know who sees her, you would die 433 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: because it's like people that like you don't think see 434 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: anybody because they're just that genetically gifted. 435 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 2: But you know, I think, I don't know. 436 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: I think for as daring and fearless as you are, 437 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: I think that you also just make people look like 438 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: them their best selves, whatever that means, you know, whether 439 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: that's just top pickley skin, whether that's injecting, whether that's whatever. 440 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: But I think you know what something I do want 441 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: to talk about is that you're also an entrepreneur on 442 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: top of that, and you have you do QBC. 443 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and I just started doing Amazon Live and yeah. 444 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: So with with tell me with what with your amazing 445 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: product line? 446 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 2: Yes, Jamie is terrible promoting. 447 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, yeah, with I have a skincare line 448 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 4: and beauty tool line, and the tools are yeah. 449 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 3: I think that. 450 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. I try to create things that are missing in 451 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 4: the marketplace. Like I I noticed I always had to 452 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 4: do more filler and bot talks on people and their 453 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 4: sleeping side, so I created the pillow. 454 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 3: I have beauty tools. I always kind of think of 455 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 3: skincare as a. 456 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 4: Fuel and a beauty tools like the automobile, and you 457 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 4: need both to get somewhere. So I kind of I 458 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 4: think beauty tools are I think it's the future of beauty. 459 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 3: Like in skincare, it's your pain. 460 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: Who's your biggest fan of the pillows? 461 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 4: My kids and my kids really, my kids fight over 462 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 4: your pillows. 463 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: Yes, really, I love that. 464 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 4: I love your I don't know your youngest son, but 465 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 4: Skuy is so cute. 466 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 3: You're gonna have trouble with that one. 467 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: He just loves coming into your office. He loves all 468 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: the things. He loves the roller. He's like, mom, because 469 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: now he's like a teen boy that wants a defined jawline. 470 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 2: And Wendy, he's so cute cut. 471 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 3: I noticed that with my son. He's like, so it's 472 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 3: so much time with the haircut. 473 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, God, it's the hair and the jaw 474 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: line for boys, this too. They want this. They want 475 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: a sharp jaw line. That's the thing. So, but I 476 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: love your products. I also really love the tools and 477 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: and but I don't know. I think one of the 478 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: things I'm attracted to about you is you just like 479 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: it's funny because you are a salesperson, but yet you 480 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: you never prom yourself. 481 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: Oh you don't. 482 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 4: Well, I don't, well, you you're pretty great yourself. I 483 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 4: mean I don't think that people if they would look 484 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 4: at you from a distance, know how hard you work, 485 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 4: I would always you know, there's a lot of people 486 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 4: that asked me to do like activations or things, but 487 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 4: I would always come to the table with you. And 488 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 4: I know other people like I know Randas said that 489 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 4: about you, and I mean I would. It's it's a 490 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 4: huge compliment because you work so darn hard, but you 491 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 4: never let them see you sweat, Like I don't know 492 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 4: how you do it. Actually, like you are mesmerizing to me, 493 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 4: and it's uh. 494 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 3: I love that you. You know you you you. 495 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 4: Put your best self out there, and I do think 496 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 4: that's important. I think when you look good, you feel good, 497 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 4: you do good, you live good. And and I think 498 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 4: that so many women and so many moms especially, you know, 499 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 4: they'll spend three hundred dollars on a T shirt that 500 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 4: their kids will wear one time, but to put into 501 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 4: something for themselves sometimes I think there's that message that 502 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 4: you know, we have to like that's bad. 503 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: That's like it's bad for moms to look after themselves, right, 504 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: It's like a. 505 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's definitely that feeling like you can give to 506 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 4: your employer, or you can give to your kids or 507 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 4: your partner, but it's it's bad when you, you know, 508 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 4: do things for yourself. 509 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 3: So I never really got that. I don't know where I. 510 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 4: Why I didn't pick that up, but I I do 511 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 4: think you have to attend your garden. 512 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 3: I actually went through. 513 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 4: I'll say my testimony is like after I got divorced, 514 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 4: like the kids like around COVID, my mom passed away 515 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 4: because I used to do, maybe not as much as 516 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 4: like the full glam that you do, which because I and. 517 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 3: I love that you do that, but gosh, you do 518 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 3: feel better. Like I don't know what it is. Maybe 519 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 3: shouldn't maybe that shouldn't. 520 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: Be the thing, but no, no, no, I believe. I 521 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: believe that. 522 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: I think listen, I've always believed that the outside informs 523 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: the inside, the inside informs the outside. At the end 524 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: of the day, you have to feel good inside. You 525 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: have to like taking away from the outside from a minute. 526 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: If you're not at peace, it's hard to really function 527 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: properly and fully right and put your you know, you 528 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: can fake it for a while, but after a while 529 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: it really wears. 530 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: You down right. But at the end of the day, 531 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: I think. 532 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: It For me, I I can't go out without a 533 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: five minute face or whatever because I'll look down instead 534 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: of looking up and that may not be like the 535 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: right thing to say. And you know, listen, not all 536 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: of us are Olivia Colpo or you know, Zendea or whoever. 537 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 2: Just is this like j Lo airbrush by God? 538 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: Like you know, it's like for me whatever that means 539 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: that like concealer, mascara, a lip or like coming to 540 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: see you and get my face tightened and blazered and 541 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: spots off. 542 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: It's like you look at people differently. You just do. 543 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: It's like it's like a looking down versus talking to people. 544 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: In my in my personal experience, when you feel good, 545 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: you just go out like hey, you know, like all 546 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: all your good things come to the top when you 547 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: feel good about yourself. 548 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 3: You know, in my opinion, I'm with you. 549 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 4: And and like you said, it doesn't have to be 550 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 4: about a procedure or anything. It's just like kind of 551 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 4: feeling get dressed, getting getting ready. 552 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's so close eyes. 553 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 4: I did get depressed like during COVID, like I wasn't 554 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 4: getting my hair makeup on. And yeah, I still am 555 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 4: not like getting as fully dressed. 556 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: As I used to your gorgeous stuff. 557 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,719 Speaker 3: But I mean it's kind of coming back. But it 558 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 3: took a minute to. 559 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 4: Get back on the hamster wheel and I just didn't 560 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 4: feel as good. 561 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: So it's forget about like you know everyone else, I 562 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: think we do it for ourselves. 563 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: But that's what I always say. It's not far. 564 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 3: Maybe it shouldn't be, but no, it is. 565 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: I think you have to do it for yourself. You 566 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: have to do it for yourself. And I tell anyone 567 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: who will listen about that. Like people are like, well, 568 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: what I understand, if you're home alone, you were makeup. 569 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, I had COVID and didn't leave my room 570 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: for ten days and. 571 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: Had a full cat I. 572 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: Like literally lashes, a liquid line and concealer and like 573 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: a clear gloss. Because I couldn't look in the mirror. 574 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: I was like, you look like dead woman walking. Get 575 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: it together, you know, And I wasn't seeing anyone. Roger 576 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: loves me without makeup. But it's not about right right. 577 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: My boys think I always. 578 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 2: Look like a princess. Don't care. 579 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean I care, but like, at the end of 580 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: the day, I think it's hard enough to be a woman, 581 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: and I think, whatever, whatever it is, some women feel 582 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: better without makeup and they can't wait to wash it off. 583 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: Great godspeed. 584 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: But I think at the end of the day, I 585 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: think whatever works, and I think what you do is magic, 586 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: and I think that you know, I'm very grateful for 587 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: you as a friend, but also because you always make 588 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: me feel good. And sometimes I'll just text you a 589 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: couple of days after I see you and be like, 590 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: whatever you did I love thanks for my face and 591 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: listen and that's you know, that could be nothing injecting. 592 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: That could be just like she did ten different lasers on. 593 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 3: Me or like exactly. 594 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to like for those people 595 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: listening that don't care, like are scared of injectables or whatever. 596 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: She does so many magical things and has all these 597 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: machines at her spa that like, my son came in 598 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: with me and started sitting on the roller thing, and 599 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: then the cool thing and then the thing. 600 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: There's so many things in there. 601 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: It's such a fun place to be with, like your sister, 602 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: your friends, a bachelorette. 603 00:30:59,000 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. 604 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't work there, and I'm really just telling you 605 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: if you haven't been to Jamie's beauty clinic, you have 606 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: to go. It's magical and you're never going to want 607 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: to leave. And there's room there to sleep. 608 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, it's a big place. I love this the 609 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 3: news space. 610 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what's next for you? My friend? What is 611 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: next for you? 612 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 3: What's next? I'm growing the skincare. 613 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I think a lot of other skincare brands 614 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 4: kind of grew during COVID because you know, people weren't 615 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 4: coming into clinic. But I mean, my mom passed and 616 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 4: it was just like a weird. 617 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 3: Time for me. So I don't know. 618 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 2: I had more skin part dating. 619 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 3: John as you know and I and it was. 620 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: Just John Mellencamp everybody Indiana, Indiana, Indiana. 621 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 4: Yes, who's a god in Indiana And to me, like, 622 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 4: I love him to death. So grateful for that relationship 623 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 4: and it helped me through such a hard time. But yeah, 624 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 4: I don't know, the world started back and everything. So 625 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 4: I just I'm just kindind of like getting back on 626 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 4: track and getting going and like newly motivated and inspired. 627 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 3: So I'm I'm looking forward to twenty four. 628 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 4: So I feel like we've got things situated here and 629 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 4: just growing the brand. And I do think that there 630 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 4: is I have a different message and it's not so 631 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 4: much about procedure base. I do think it is more 632 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 4: like self care because I did have like a moment 633 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 4: of not doing anything and my gosh, it was not 634 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 4: good for me, like just it was kind of like 635 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 4: a darker time. Yeah, So it's just like not even 636 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 4: wanting to brush my teeth or comb my hair, and 637 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 4: it's just like, I don't know, I do think that 638 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 4: when you look good, you feel good, you do good, 639 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 4: you live good. I just am nicer, I'm more productive. 640 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's been a dark couple of years 641 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: for a lot of people. And I think that's why 642 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: every day I feel like a topic somewhere is mental health, 643 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: and I think there's such focus on it for our 644 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: kids and for us. And I do think that most 645 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: people have gone through some iteration of depression over the 646 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: last couple of years. I think whatever that looks like 647 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: for you, whether it lasts two days or two years 648 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: or two weeks, it doesn't matter. But I do think 649 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: that it's nice now everyone's sort of coming out with 650 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: this like fresh sort of like, wow, that was dark, Okay, 651 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: this is what I need to like fill my cup 652 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: to like actually make me want to get out of 653 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: bed and motivate me and make me happy. And it's okay. 654 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: And I do think you're right. And something I do 655 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: want to just reiterate is like I think, as women 656 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: in general, but I think even more so as working 657 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: mothers and in your case, a single working mother, which 658 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: is dear God to triplets, it's not easy. And I 659 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: think there is this stigma and guilt that we carry 660 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: which is like got to take care of everyone else, 661 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: got to take care of everyone else, can't take care 662 00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: of ourselves. And I think you're right about that, And 663 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: I'm glad that you help so many women take care 664 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: of themselves and without the guilt. 665 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: All right, Well, I love you. 666 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to let you go ten to your children 667 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: and to your and to your patients. 668 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 2: I love you. 669 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: I'll see you in the next you know, ten days, 670 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: because you know, got to see you before I leave. 671 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: Last person, I see, first person, I see when I 672 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: come back. It's that time in the show when I 673 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: answer to listener questions. So let's see what we have today. 674 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: What's one place you've never traveled to that you've always 675 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: wanted to go? God, I feel like there's a lot. Honestly, 676 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: there's so many places in France. I still want to 677 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: go to places in Italy. I've actually never been to 678 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: Lake Como. I'm dying to go to Lake Como. I'm 679 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,959 Speaker 1: dying to go to the Maldives. I'm dying to go 680 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: to New Zealand. 681 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 2: Oh my god, there's a lot. There's a lot. 682 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,439 Speaker 1: There's a lot I've But I'm not someone in full 683 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 1: disclosure that loves the supercultural trips. When I go on vacation, 684 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: I actually want to just be in a magically beautiful 685 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: place where I can just kind of relax a bit. 686 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: But yeah, those are definitely some more places in the 687 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: south of France and all over France, and definitely some 688 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 1: more magical places in Italy and Spain. 689 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 2: I don't know, there's a lot of blue. 690 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: When I think about it, I just like pretended I 691 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: was in all those places for a moment. Okay, second question, 692 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: how often do you switch out your handbags? I get 693 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: stuck carrying the same bag all the time just because 694 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: of convenience. That's actually funny. My sister literally never changes 695 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: her handbag, and she always has this huge bag with 696 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: her wherever she goes, and it makes me crazy. I 697 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: change my bag quite a lot, actually, because I have 698 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,479 Speaker 1: different bags for different reasons, and like my like more 699 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: precious bags, like my Birkens or Kelly Is, Like, I 700 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 1: won't carry those on days where I'm like running around 701 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: and doing errands and like picking up kids and stuff 702 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 1: like that, because every nick on one of those bags 703 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: costs money. But I do have bags that I like 704 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: to just have in my everyday life that I can 705 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: throw around or and is precious. And then of course, 706 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: like for evening, I'm going to carry a different bag 707 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: every time I go out because it depends on what 708 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: I'm wearying. But a bag is such a part of 709 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,399 Speaker 1: a look I feel like. So yeah, that's a long 710 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: winded way of saying I change them very often. Okay, 711 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: so don't forget to submit your questions for next week's episode. 712 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: All you have to do is dm us your questions 713 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: to Act Climbing and Hills Pod on Instagram and I 714 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: might just answer your question. Thank you so much to 715 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 1: Nurse Jamie for coming on the pod. She is definitely 716 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: one of a kind in the beauty and skincare industry. 717 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: I have never heard a story like hers. It's pretty epic, 718 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: and I hope you really enjoyed it and appreciated her 719 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: journey as much as I did, because, at the end 720 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: of the day, is unconventional and funny as Jamie is, 721 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: she is truly brilliant. 722 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 2: At what she does. 723 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: Obviously she's pretty fearless about doing things to herself, but 724 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: I think more so it is very contradictory of her 725 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: approach to women, because she is so light handed and 726 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: natural with her clients that you would never know people 727 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: that she actually works with, I promise you, because I 728 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: know a lot of them and you probably think they 729 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: do nothing, but they do a lot, and it's a 730 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: whole lot of subtle things. 731 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 2: I promise you. 732 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: Also, it's like working one hundred jobs to get to 733 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,919 Speaker 1: where she is now and working multiple jobs at once 734 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: all well, being a single mom of three kids that 735 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: are triplet. 736 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 2: Anyone know how hard that is. 737 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: So I do want to just really just take a 738 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: moment of appreciation for Jamie anyway, I just want to 739 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: point out that her products are amazing. 740 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 2: My family loves her products. They love her tools. 741 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: My kids literally steal my face rollers and the pillows honestly, 742 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 1: because then you wake up with no creases on your face. 743 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 1: They're amazing. I hope you loved this episode as much 744 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: as I loved it. It made me laugh a lot. 745 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: If you want more Climbing and Hills content, follow me 746 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: and at Rachel zou and at Climbing and Hills Pod 747 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: on Instagram for more updates on upcoming guests, episodes, and 748 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,240 Speaker 1: all things Cure Atre. 749 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: I will see you next week. Month