1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. The third hour of Clay and Buck 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: is going right now. Thanks for being with us, and 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: just take a quick moment if we can, to note 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: that after all of the hullabaloo, it's a fun word, 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: thank you for all the hullabaloo around the Speaker of 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: the House, who will it be? How will it go? 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: And Kevin McCarthy ended up as speaker, which is what 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: we thought would happen, But there were concessions made on 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: the twenty or so rebels in the House got some changes, 11 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: some promises that Kevin McCarthy has as speaker come out 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: swinging to be fair. The House has taken votes on 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: abolishing federal income taxes, looking at weaponization of government, looking 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: at and holding China accountable for its abuses, defunding the 15 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: World Health Organization. Did you see that one? I didn't 16 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: even see that one. I'm just looking a list of 17 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: this here and looking more closely at the Biden crime family, 18 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: so especially the irs. I can't believe there weren't more 19 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: people who are truly terrified at the notion of seventy 20 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: thousand additional RS agents because they're When they tell you 21 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: that they're just going after rich people, they are lying 22 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: to you. You can look at the data, you can 23 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: look at the truth. They are lying to you. You 24 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: know where they're going after people who make fifty to 25 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year who they 26 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: can squeeze and because there's a lot more of those people, 27 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: and they can squeeze an extra five or ten grand 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: out of you, because you don't want to pay for lawyers, 29 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: you don't have accountants, you don't have a team of people, etc. 30 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: That's what the data. The data shows they actually go 31 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: after people who are much less able to fight it, 32 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: and they'refore more likely to write a check of additional 33 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: of additional money to the Treasury. But Clay, I bring 34 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: up the situation of the House and where we are 35 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: right now, because we're in for another showdown throwdown, however 36 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: you want to put it of sorts right now because 37 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna have a debt ceiling moment on Thursday. 38 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: We will be reaching the debt ceiling. I want to 39 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: know that Biden yesterday said this about Republicans. It's MLK 40 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: Day and Biden's giving a speech, and here's how he 41 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: refers to the Republicans in Congress. Play one. They're gonna 42 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: talk about big spending Democrats again. Guess what. I reduced 43 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: the deficit last year three hundred and fifty billion dollars, 44 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: and this year federal deficit is down one trillion plus dollars. 45 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: Here me, that's a fact. And there's gonna be hundreds 46 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: of billions reduced over the next decade. But so these 47 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: guys are the fiscally fiscally demented. I think they don't. 48 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: They don't quite get it. I mean, first of all, Biden, 49 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: comparing debt reduction to COVID when we're spending trillions of 50 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: dollars in emergency funding after an artificial government shutdown of 51 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: the economy or sectors of the economy, is just the 52 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: most dishonest thing imaginable about this. We're looking at a 53 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: House of Representatives, Clay with a Republican majority that may 54 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: fight over this issue a little bit in advance of Thursday. 55 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: We'll see. I would just note for everybody he says 56 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: Republicans are demented, if you look at a chart of 57 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: total public debt, you look at where we are as 58 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: a country and this is from the US Department of Treasury. 59 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: You know, when you and I Clay were well, when 60 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: I was growing up, I don't know what it was 61 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: like back in the seventies, but when I was growing up, 62 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: you know, it was public debt was two trillion, three trillion, 63 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: four trillion. Oh, the eighties into the nineties. Then you 64 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: get to two thousand and ten, you get to the 65 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: Obama administration, and it goes from I'm just looking at 66 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: the chart right now, about nine trillion to Whoopsee by 67 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, you're at twenty three trillion dollars were thirty 68 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: one trillion. Now this is a if there is such 69 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: a thing as a scary debt number, aren't we at 70 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: the scary debt number? Yes? Yes. The Team Party began 71 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: to protest when we were approaching ten trillion dollars in 72 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: national debt. Since two thy ten, we have added over 73 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: twenty trillion dollars to our national debt. A lot of 74 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: states buck have balanced budget requirements, that is, you cannot 75 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: go billions and certainly not trillions of dollars into debt. 76 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: I find these battles over debt ceiling that we know 77 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: eventually are going to get resolved zevery He says, oh, well, 78 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: we can't default on our obligations. The United States is 79 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: not going to default forever on our public obligations. But 80 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: they act like that is in some way a major threat. 81 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: It's not. There's going to get resolved. I wish we 82 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: could just pass a balanced budget Amendment one sin for 83 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: all and say Congress can't spend more money than the 84 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: United States has, because with the fact that we are 85 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: raising interest rates, we're going to be over five percent 86 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: probably at some point this year. A massive amount now 87 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: of our national budget, of our yearly government budget is 88 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: based on interest and when you're at thirty trillion dollars, 89 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: the interest payments restrict what you're able to do. And 90 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: so Joe Biden is bragging about reducing the size of 91 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: the deficit, when, first of all, it's a why right, 92 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: because as you mentioned, it's COVID spending. He also wanted 93 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: to spend five trillion additional dollars. Only Republicans and Mansion 94 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: and Cinnamon his own party kept that from happening. But 95 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: this is the same kind of brag he's doing Buck 96 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: when he's saying, oh, no president's ever created more jobs 97 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: than I have no, no, no, no, people just got 98 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: to go back to work, right Like, you don't get 99 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: to take credit for the fact that in March of 100 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty suddenly everybody, a huge percentage anyway of people 101 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: were told hey, you're not allowed to do your job, 102 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: and starting in January of twenty twenty one, as many 103 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: of those people came back to their jobs. Biden doesn't 104 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: get credit for creating tens of millions of jobs, which 105 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: is what he's trying to do. We should have never 106 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: shut down and taken away people's jobs in the first place, 107 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: and we certainly shouldn't have done what the United States 108 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: government did, and that's why. Look, Republicans aren't absence blames here, 109 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: not blameless. Let's we are always gonna be honest with you. 110 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: And there was way too much money spend in twenty twenty. 111 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: That is just a fact. I think it's one of 112 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: the reasons that the mid term elections that we just 113 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: had didn't factor inflation in as a bigger issue. Because yes, 114 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: what Biden did speaking about fiscally demented spending two trillion 115 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: when he came in right away, total party line vote 116 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: and then want to spend another five trillion. That's just lunacy. Yes, 117 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: but we spent six trillion on COVID in twenty twenty, 118 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: and I understand hindsight is twenty twenty that kind of worked. Yeah, 119 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: but that was also a really bad idea and we 120 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: shouldn't have done that. And that was the most fiscally 121 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: reckless thing I think that has been done in this 122 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: Has there ever been something more fiscally reckless than that? 123 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: Clay as a one off, meaning one action sprinting six 124 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: trillion dollars. Now, look, we spent more money on responding 125 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: to COVID than we spent to win World War Two. 126 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: So I mean, for everybody out there, I mean, that's 127 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: kind of an eyebrow raising moment. If you look at 128 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: federal expenditures, our federal expenditures were the highest I believe 129 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm right on this in response to COVID than they 130 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: had been since World War Two. So we spent more 131 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: money fighting a virus that we did virtually nothing to combat. Honestly, 132 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: all we needed to do was just let this thing 133 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: run through unfortunately the body public until we got natural immunity. 134 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: Because that's the only thing that seems to have worked. 135 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: We shouldn't have spent a dollar on that. We should 136 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: have just said, hey, we should have followed the Gate 137 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: Great Barrington declaration. There were people who were making these 138 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: arguments at the time. Instead, we spent as much money 139 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: fighting COVID, more in fact, than we did fighting the Nazis. 140 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: Think about how crazy that is. I mean, not an 141 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: inflation on an inflation adjusted basis, I believe that is correct. 142 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: I think we spent more money on COVID federally than 143 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: we did to fight World War Two. Well, we'll think 144 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: of about it. We didn't. You didn't shut down the 145 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: economy in World War two. You actually had massive escalation 146 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: and everything else. Yes, you do the opposite of shutting 147 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: down your economy during a war. We shut down our economy. 148 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: And I think everyone needs to hear this. For no benefit. 149 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: We tried the the commies in this country. Unfortunately, we're 150 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: able to use COVID to get their way in a 151 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: number of ways, and one of them is we essentially 152 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: ran not only modern monetary theory, but universal basic income. 153 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: We printed crazy amounts of money and gave people money 154 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: to pay their bills to do nothing. This is Soword 155 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: to nine. Yeah, I mean, this is what the furthest 156 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: left Sandernistas of the Bernie Sanders variety. This is what 157 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: they had wanted for for decades, and we actually did 158 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: it because of COVID. And you know, in twenty twenty, 159 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't want to hear it. I 160 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: was in the don't shut down your economy for any reason. Camp. 161 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: I was in the open. I got more people telling 162 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: me I was a horrible person that should you know, 163 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: should die or something because I said we should open 164 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: in April of twenty twenty, full open, go back to work, 165 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: deal with it. We got to live our lives. Our 166 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: friend Jesse Kelly rock solid on this issue. You rock 167 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: solid on this issue, and we're unfortunately now I think 168 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: just beginning to see the consequences thirty trillion in debt, Clay, 169 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: we can't even comprehend that number. Buck. I the analogy 170 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: that I used on my sports talk radio show at 171 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: the time when we were all locked down, and I 172 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: think I've told this story on this radio show before. 173 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: April sixth is my birthday. So April six, twenty twenty, 174 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: much of the country is still locked down. A lot 175 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: of businesses are not open. Someone knocks on my door, 176 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: go to the door. Open it. Who's standing there? Cupcake delivery. 177 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: It's a birthday. Somebody had gotten me cupcakes delivered in 178 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: my house. I said, wait a minute, cupcake delivery is 179 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: an essential and the girl, I don't blame her. Look, 180 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: I want everybody to work. She said, oh yeah, cupcakes 181 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 1: are considered to be an essential business. We haven't ever 182 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: had to shut down. And I said, look, I get 183 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: it right. They all this business does is make cupcakes. 184 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: I don't think there are that many people out there 185 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: that live off of just I wish I could. By 186 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: the way, you can just live off cupcakes. They could 187 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: be really good. Look they're amazing. If you told me 188 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: right now. In fact, hey Clay, you won't get fat 189 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: and die in two years if you just eat cupcakes. 190 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: I would be fine, just even come in the rest 191 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: of my life. Important question for you, And then I 192 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: want to ask you about the death ceiling. If there 193 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: was one food that you could eat unlimited amounts of 194 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: and have it not affect your health or weight or 195 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: anything at all, what would it be? Cobbler? I think 196 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: that cobbler. This is the Southern boy in me. I 197 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: think that BlackBerry cobbler is the greatest food that has 198 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: ever been invented in the history. I like mixed berry 199 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: cobblers too. I'm not trying to be racist against strawberries 200 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: or peaches, or apples or anything else, but I think 201 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: the BlackBerry cobbler is the greatest of the cobbler team. 202 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: What about you? What would ice cream I can put away? 203 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: I could put away a thousand dollars of ice cream 204 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: without without batting an eyelash? What what choice would you 205 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: go with? What flavor? If you could only go with one? Um? 206 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: Is this a pistachio answer? Is this your I was 207 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: hoping you remember pistachio gates, But yes, it would be 208 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: pistachio flavor of ice cream pistachio ice I know, I 209 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: grew up in Manhattan. I'm imperfect. What can I tell you? 210 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: I don't think there's very people out there a pistachio 211 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: ice cream. And also, you know that I hate on 212 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: strawberry ice cream. You know who love strawberry ice cream? 213 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: My parents, And they're so sweet about They're just like, 214 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: do you even try strawberry? Like you even know strawberry 215 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: ice cream? Your parents buds, they think it's fantastic. I'm 216 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: a I'm a hater of the strawberry. But I'll ask 217 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 1: you this. Maybe we come back to this clay, the 218 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: dead ceiling fight. Should Republicans in the House get into 219 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: this fight? Is it meaningful? Will it do anything? It's 220 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: a great question we will answer when we return. I 221 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: like where you're going with that, my friends. 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We're not being notified about this 255 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: national merit scholarship status at several elite public high schools 256 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: in northern Virginia. We'll find out the latest on that 257 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: buck you asked the questions we went to break. This 258 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: debt ceiling fight is probably going to be the number 259 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: one battle in Congress over February, March, April, May, and June. 260 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: It is going to be covered in a absolute fever 261 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: pitch fashion as if the United States defaulting is one 262 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: even really possible for a significant period of time, and 263 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: two as if this is an existential crisis for American democracy. 264 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: I can already tell you that's the way it's going 265 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: to be covered. Yes, I think that the House Republicans 266 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: should fight, and they should. I don't know what they'll 267 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: be able to get in the negotiation, but as you 268 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: well know, the only way you get it in the 269 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: negotiation is if you are willing to go all the 270 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: way up to the last possible day of when the 271 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: government can be funded it, maybe even necessarily beyond it 272 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: in order to get what you want. And I think 273 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: they should. Look, we saw this with the speakers fight, 274 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: where I think we both came to a conclusion here 275 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: on the air that let them fight it out. This 276 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: is our system at work. Let people make their case. 277 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: It's all going to be fine. Where you know, the Democrats, 278 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: just because they're trying to gain points politically and in 279 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: public opinion, you're gonna say, oh, my gosh, you know, 280 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria. If you have 281 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: any delay in raising the debt ceiling. They're saying, oh, 282 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: this is for things, this is for money already spent. 283 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: It's all fine. We've been through this many times. And 284 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: if nothing else, it's an opportunity to raise to public 285 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: consciousness the just completely out of control spending that's going 286 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: on now on a whole range of fronts. And when 287 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: we're getting into numbers like this and the normalization of 288 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: interest rates, which is already occurring right now, you start 289 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: seeing how much of public spending is going to be 290 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: really just debt servicing. This stuff gets pretty pretty damaging 291 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: pretty fast. And it's honestly also intergenerational theft, which nobody 292 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: really wants to talk about. But it's true. I'll also 293 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: point out buck and I think this is significant. I 294 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: would argue this is a big argument that the House 295 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: Republicans should put out they didn't actually agree to this spending. 296 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: The prior Congress did Republicans in control of the House 297 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: actually had their ability thanks to the one point seven 298 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: trillion Omnibus build it passed, had their ability to speak 299 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: on this budget stripped from them. So the debt ceiling 300 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: is actually their opportunity and some might say obligation to 301 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: speak out on the way that the government is being funded. 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It is great to be 331 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: with you. Thanks for having me on. So there has 332 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: been some attention given to this story about Virginia schools 333 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: withholding national merit awards from students that got them based 334 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: on their performance on the psat s or practice say 335 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: preparatory SAT. What can you tell us about this? How 336 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: many schools? How big a deal is this? And when 337 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: did it come to your attention, Well, you know, it 338 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: first came to my attention with actually Thomas Jefferson High School, 339 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: which is considered one of the best public schools in 340 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: the country. It's it's a magnet school. You have to 341 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: apply to attend, and they went to a new equity 342 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: quote equity focused admissions policy and which saw a twenty 343 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: point drop in Asian American enrollment. And then obviously this 344 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: exploded on the scene. We know that Fairfax Public Schools 345 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: hired an equity consultant, paid them about four hundred and 346 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: fifty five thousand dollars of taxpayer money for about nine 347 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: months of work. One of the equity consultants quote recommendations 348 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: was an equity centered strategic plan in which and I 349 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: quote equal outcomes for every student without exception end quote. 350 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: And they further opined this equity consultant that to get 351 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: to equal outcomes, you had to get there even if 352 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: it meant that you were treating some students quote purposefully unequal. 353 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: That goes against every notion we have in a merit 354 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: based society. And so what we're trying to determine is 355 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: does that then mean to get to this kind of 356 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: forced equal outcomes, that you were discriminating against certain Americans 357 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: solely because and only because of their racial ethnic background, 358 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: and that that's a violation of a state statute we 359 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: have in Virginia, the Virginia Human Rights Act. And this 360 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: obviously we were originally told this was a single high 361 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 1: school as Thomas Jefferson High School, and it was an 362 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: administrative error. Then it has now turned into close to 363 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: over a dozen high schools in the Northern Virginia area 364 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: and Fairfax and Loudon that we are reviewing. Seems to 365 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: be systemic, and so that's why we're doing this investigation. 366 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: It gets to the bottom of this. And what's so 367 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: sad is you hear the word equity all the time. 368 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: But the point I like to make is equity without 369 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: excellence's emptiness. And so many of these students are the 370 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: children of immigrants. They have fled here to the United States, 371 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: the last best hope on earth. I'm a child of 372 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: an immigrant, someone who fled Cuba. I know that education 373 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: is the doorway to the American dream. For a lot 374 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: of these kids, English is not even the primary language 375 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: spoken in their household. But they are incredible students and 376 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: they're being denied opportunities simply because of who they are, 377 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: and it really goes if it is true to discriminating 378 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: based on your background, then it goes against everything we 379 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: believe as Americans. Jason. For people out there who may 380 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: not be familiar with this story, I would connect it 381 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: also with what's been going on in New York City, 382 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: which is we've moved from with elite public schools there 383 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: as well. We've moved from this idea to everybody should 384 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: compete and the best among us academically should be rewarded 385 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: for that competition. To if the rewards for competition academically 386 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: are not distributed in a cosmetically even fashion across all 387 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: racial groups, then somehow those awards are racist or unacceptable. 388 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: How do we fix this? Right? Because I think about it, 389 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: from the world of sports, we want elite success. The 390 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: last thing you would want. I know you're in the 391 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: Virginia so you've dealt with this for a long time 392 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: with the Redskins and Commanders not trying to take a 393 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: shot there, but there's been a lot of mediocrity there. 394 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: The last thing you want is for every team to 395 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: go five hundred, right. You want excellence to reign supreme, 396 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: Yet we've turned away from that, the meritocracy in education. 397 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: How does it get fixed? Well, I think a lot 398 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: of what you've seen is nationally you've had this sense 399 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: of a war on merit, which goes against who we 400 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: are as Americans. We believe in equality of opportunity. We 401 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: just don't believe in equality of outcomes. And I think 402 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: you could differentiate between the two and looks and a 403 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: lot of it is you have so many individuals, particularly 404 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: in Northern Virginia, that are just they're angry about it, 405 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: and they're gonna let their voices be heard. I mean, 406 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: I had a mom shared with me that you know, 407 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: my daughter has done everything right since the first grade, 408 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: is what she was shared with me. She's worked incredibly hard. 409 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: Her dream has always been to a go to Thomas 410 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: Jefferson High School. But I realize that she's probably a getter, 411 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: dream denied her not because of anything she has done, 412 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: not because of a lack of work, but simply because 413 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: she's Korean American. And that is this has created such 414 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: a firestorm, this sense of not recognizing the value of merit. 415 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: And I will say this, and this is what's so troubling. 416 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: You know, clay. They say, the only thing you learn 417 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: from history is nobody learns from history a hundred years 418 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: and then goes in this country at elite academic institutions. 419 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: They decided that we had too many quote, Jewish American 420 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: children in our in our elite institutions, and they capped them. 421 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: They literally said, we're not going to allow any more. 422 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: And they were discriminating against Jewish American children. And we 423 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: recognize that. We look back at that with horror, as 424 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: we rightly should. Well, if it was wrong a hundred 425 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: years ago to treat Jewish American children this way, then 426 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: it is wrong today to treat Asian American children this 427 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 1: way in America. And I think it goes against our 428 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: sense of you know, we are, we are fundamentally a good, 429 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: decent and noble country, and it goes directly against what 430 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: we feel as a sense of fair play. And so 431 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: I have high degree of confidence that a lot of 432 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: this comes out and we find out what's happening nationally, 433 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: and we're gonna see That's why we're doing this investigation 434 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: to see exactly what it's happening in Virginia. You're average 435 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: American when they hear you quotes like equal outcome for 436 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: every student without exception. That's not the America that they 437 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: know they want on America that believes in both the 438 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: quality of opportunity but not forced outcomes, because at the 439 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: end of the day, that's the number one trade we 440 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: care the most about. Is not the color of your skin, 441 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: It's about your character. That is what doctor King dream 442 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: and that's why we have the Virginia Human Rights Sect 443 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: in Virginia to make sure that's not the reverse of 444 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: that isn't happening. Hey, Jason, building on your historical analogy 445 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: about the exclusion of Jewish kids from elite academic institutions, 446 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: as Buck and I have talked about on this show, 447 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: that's actually why standardized testing began because they wanted to 448 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: have an ability to compare kids from all over the 449 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: country instead of just looking at their GPA because different 450 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: high schools were different quality. Let's have one standardized measure. 451 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: And what you're really seeing in this ties in with 452 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: the results in Northern Virginia is Asian kids are dominating, 453 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: and they are dominating at a level that is making 454 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: others uncomfortable and so as a result, they're being punished. 455 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: And there was a big article in the New York 456 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: Times talking about recently. And if they're writing about it 457 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: in the Times, you know it's a big issue that 458 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: many Asian Americans voted for Leezeldon over this issue in 459 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: the New York City area. And I'm sure that's happening. 460 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: As your example you just gave of the young girl 461 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: who's Korean background, I bet it's happening in Northern Virginia 462 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: in a big way where a lot of these Asian 463 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: families are saying, we believe in the meritocracy, we believe 464 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: in academic excellence. That means we vote Republican. Now, well, 465 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, I had a mom amazing story. She fled 466 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: Vietnam with nothing, similar my mom pled Cuba nothing. She 467 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: pled with nothing from Vietnam as a child. She's scaring 468 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: a story with me that she had gone to school 469 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: board member to protest the fact that she felt like 470 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: her daughter treated differently just because she was Vietnamese American. 471 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: And this is a woman that has come to this 472 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: country with nothing, and the school board members told her 473 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: that she needed to really check that she was falling 474 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: into the trap of quote white privilege. And you know, 475 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: she's like, I'm being lectured about white privilege, and I 476 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: came to this country fleeing communism with nothing, and so 477 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: I do think, you know, I think listen, people want 478 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: leaders that speak to their aspirations. I did an interview 479 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: with The New York Times a couple of months ago 480 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: where they asked me, why are so many Latino and 481 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: Asian American voters walking to the GOP And I said, 482 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, it used to be to both parties broadly 483 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: agree that this was an exceptional country, and we still 484 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: talked about this is indeed the last best hope on earth. 485 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: And now one party walked away from him. I still 486 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: talk about it. I still talk about America has given 487 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: more second chances to more people from more background fates, colors, 488 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: and creeds than any country that's ever existed in the 489 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: history of the world. That doesn't mean we'll discuss our 490 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: darkest chapters, but we have given so much hope to 491 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: so many people. But one party no longer uses that language. 492 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: And you could see why so many new Americans that 493 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: come to this country, they know they fled hell holes. 494 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: They know they fled countries that are incredibly oppressive. Either 495 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: they oppress them because of their religion or their or 496 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: their ethnic background. They know this is a unique country, 497 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: unlike anything other, and I know they have a lot 498 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: of sports fans listening. Clay. If you don't think you're unique, 499 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: go on YouTube. Watch the video of the opening ceremony 500 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: of the Summer Olympics in Tokyo. One hundred and nineteen 501 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: countries walk into that stadium, Clay, one hundred and nineteen, 502 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: they announce the United States of America. We go in 503 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: alphabetical order. And when they announced the United States of America, 504 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: we're the only delegation out of one hundred and nineteen 505 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: in which our delegation looks like the entire world. Every race, 506 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: every color, every creed, visual image does more to the 507 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: shrow destroy kind of this woke narrative that America is 508 00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: somehow you're redeemingly broken and cannot be redeemed. We have 509 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: given so many second chances. And if you don't, if 510 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: you want to feel proud about your country, go to 511 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: naturalization ceremony. You meet these individuals. I love to do it. 512 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: I spoke of one and right before Christmas, sixty nine people, 513 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: thirty five countries. You hand them one that one dollar 514 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: American flag. It is as precious as a diamond. They 515 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: get that, they understand that. And when the doorway to 516 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: the American dream is education and that's being denied certain people, 517 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: which is simply because of who they are, at least 518 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: at the national level, that breaks your heart. And that's 519 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: why we want to make sure that's not happening in Virginia. 520 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: Attorney General Jason Miarez of Virginia, Sir, appreciate you being 521 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: with us. We'll talk to you again soon. Always an honor. 522 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: Thanks guys. Those guys are fighting battles that matter in 523 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: a big way in Virginia, and I think they're winning 524 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: a lot of them. Buck Attorney, gentleman. They are is 525 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: doing a good meers doing a good job. Glen young 526 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: Can doing a good job. There are some folks getting 527 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: it done out there. And remember they only get one 528 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: term as governor there, so as quick as young Can 529 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: has come in, he's going to be moving out. So 530 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: if you want to keep those battles going, it's gonna 531 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: be intriguing to see what happens there. Don't on the 532 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: national level potentially with Juncan, but who's going to be 533 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: running in the state. Learning never stops on this program. 534 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: We like to think that learning never stops on this program. 535 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: If you're committed to continuing to learn more in your 536 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: own life, our friends at Hillsdale College want to help 537 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: you as well. 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There is 562 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: a murder investigation that has been going on that has 563 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: been getting a lot of attention regarding a husband who 564 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: has now been accused arrested for killing his wife. She'd 565 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: been missing for a couple of weeks. Now, what's the 566 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: latest on this story. I've been a lot of our 567 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: audience has been paying attention to it. It's just breaking. 568 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: So this is the CBS News breaking news here that 569 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: Brian Walsh is being charged with the murderer of his wife, 570 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: Anna Walsh. And this was a story that had gotten 571 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: a lot of attention because Walsh had Anna Walsh had 572 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: disappeared on January first, taking a ride share to Logan Airport, 573 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: but police said she never actually got into the uber 574 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: or the lyft and this guy, Brian Walsh. Her husband 575 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: was held for misleading investigators. Initially, however, it was reported 576 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: that when his wife. After his wife went went missing, 577 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: the news came out and said news media came out 578 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: and said that he had been seen buying cleaning solvents 579 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: and a hack saw at a store, and that also 580 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: he had been found by authorities to have googled how 581 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: to dispose of a one hundred and fifteen pound body. 582 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: His wife weighs about one hundred and fifteen waited about 583 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen pounds. Wow, this reminds me buck 584 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: when I was there was a huge story in Nashville, 585 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: and some people will have heard about this because it 586 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: became a major national story as well. A former Vanderbilt lawyer, 587 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: Vanderbilt trained lawyer named Perry March, was suspected of killing 588 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: his wife, and this was a multi year scenario. They never, 589 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: I don't believe, have ever found her body. He was 590 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: convicted of murder, but he fled the country. He lived 591 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: in Mexico for a while and ultimately what they think 592 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: happened is that he struck and killed her, rolled up 593 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: her body in a in a rug, and then carried 594 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: the body out, tried to cover it all up. Was 595 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: very smart, highly trained. Obviously it appears diabolical murderer and 596 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: they never have found her body. She it was a 597 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: major missing person story that he was a well healthy guy. 598 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: She was from a wealthy family in Nashville. And it 599 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: reminds me very much as I've been reading about this 600 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 1: story involving this woman who has disappeared and her husband 601 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: at being the prime suspect of potentially that scenario as well. 602 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 1: So we'll see whether they're able to find her body 603 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 1: or not, because one of the challenges with any murder trial, 604 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: in addition to needing a weapon, for instance, like we're 605 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: seeing with the University of Idaho, is if you don't 606 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: have the body, one of the defenses that you can 607 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: put out there is the individual's not dead and she's 608 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: just decided to disappear. And that was the defense that 609 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 1: Perry March's team put forward that worked for a long 610 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: time as a as a defense was, Hey, she's not dead. 611 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 1: She just decided she was done with her life and 612 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: has and has vanished. Yes, the defense, but most people 613 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: do go to prison. It's interesting because if you watch 614 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: law and order there there'll always been your honor that's circumstantial. 615 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: Most people go to prison because of circumstantial evidence. Just 616 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: to be clear, it's it's usually not an eyewitness or 617 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: a signed confession or you know, video of it. Usually 618 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: because people as going, well, that's just circumstantial evidence. Yeah, 619 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: if if they can convince a jury that the circumstantial 620 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: evidence in its totality, And when you've got a guy 621 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: who is googling how to dispose of one hundred and 622 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: fifteen pound body, there is no way to explain that 623 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: to a jury that does not end up with you 624 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: spending the rest of your life in prison. This is 625 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: the defense attorney in me. He'd better find out that 626 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 1: he was writing a novel and that he was doing 627 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: research for that novel on how to do away with 628 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: a murdered body. Circumstantial evidence. To your point, buck, eyewitness 629 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: testimony has been found to be one of the least 630 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: reliable actual evidences. Even though you have this idea, oh, 631 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: eye witness testimony. Eye witnesses get things wrong all the time, 632 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: and the evidence is actually given far more credence than 633 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: it deserves. Here's a circumstantial evidence example for those of 634 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: you out there who hear that phrase and think, oh, 635 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: that's not worthwhile evidence exactly. You know, if you go 636 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: to bed at night and you shut your blinds, and 637 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: you wake up the next morning and there is snow 638 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: on the ground, the fact that it snowed overnight is 639 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: circumstantial evidence. You did not see it yourself, but you 640 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 1: can testify to the fact that it is there, right, 641 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: pretty strong evidence still that it snowed, even though you 642 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: didn't sit in front of your window and watch the 643 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: snow come down, circumstantial that it occurred. I think this 644 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: guy is uh. I wouldn't want to be his defense team. 645 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: Not much. I could say it's gonna be a tough 646 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: one for him based on the facts that they're presented. 647 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: But that's the breaking games. Good question. I don't know. 648 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: That's one of the first thing. Three three boys. That's terrible, Yeah, 649 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: I mean for that for those kids, um, I mean 650 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: as awful as that story is, I mean, think about 651 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: what their life is going to be like. Now, can 652 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: we promise everybody tomorrow we're gonna end the show on 653 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 1: a happy note that tomorrow, promise