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Speaker 1: The most valuable commodity I know of his information.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't you agree?

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Speaker 1: I've got five dollars? This is a raal copy tackle.

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Speaker 1: Hit one man.

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Speaker 3: You're saying that humans need fantasy to make life bearable.

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Speaker 4: Humans need fantasy to be human? My goodness, miss best

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Speaker 4: relentless refusing to give up?

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Speaker 1: All right, hit that horn? Baby less there?

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Speaker 4: What's up everybody?

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast. I am your host,

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Speaker 2: Chris Raybond of the Action Network, and this is our

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Speaker 2: NFC East Fantasy Football preview episode. You got Me, you

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Speaker 2: got Turner. That's two of the top five weekly rankers

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Speaker 2: in the game from twenty twenty two at Fantasy pros Trophies.

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Speaker 2: In the background, as you can see, Sean, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 5: I can't believe you're letting me represent the Giants today

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Speaker 5: and you're walking?

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Speaker 1: Is that a sick Rogers stuck jersey?

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Speaker 2: It was one of the two Rogers Stallbuck jerseys I own.

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Speaker 2: I actually owned the blue one as well, so I

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Speaker 2: got boats away for Rogers. I got two Marinos, two starbacks.

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Speaker 2: stick how to bring oh and two Peyton mannings to

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Speaker 2: Payton Mans of course. But yeah, we're gonna If Casey

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Speaker 2: haven't been heard our AFC East episode, we broke down

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Speaker 4: That one, we're gonna try to do the same thing here.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna go through every fancy relevant player for the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys, the Giants, and the Washington What are they now?

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Speaker 2: They the commanders for for now right? Yeah, I miss

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Speaker 2: I missed the good old football team. Uh So we're

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Speaker 2: gonna get right to it because we really like to.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna kind of take up as much of the

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Speaker 2: hour as we possibly can with this. We use basketball

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Speaker 2: eight from the last two weeks to give us a

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Speaker 2: I really loved the consistency. He was top seven in

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Speaker 4: What can we say about Jayalen this year, just that

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Speaker 5: Us giving him as a mid range a low on

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Speaker 5: QB one are officially over. I would call him a

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Speaker 5: He missed Week sixteen seventeen, so I had to stream

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Speaker 5: for those weeks, so damn it. But either way, aj

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Speaker 5: Brown clearly helped unlock his ceiling in the passing game

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Speaker 5: last year. Plus the QB sneak push push or whatever

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Speaker 5: I mean, that play is such a cheat code. So

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Speaker 5: just when it comes to the top three, I don't

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Speaker 2: They promoted from within, did the Eagles with Ryan Johnson,

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Speaker 2: but still thing Hurts either way. You can't take him

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Speaker 2: But I mentioned DeAndre Swift, and this is someone I

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Speaker 5: His value shot up a ton the past two months,

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Speaker 5: And sure landing on one of the best run heavy

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Speaker 5: he should absolutely be the first running back off the

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Speaker 5: And while it's comforting that the Eagles are talking about

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Speaker 5: kind of things, you know. They Jalen Hurts specifically only

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Speaker 1: Are in this offense. So I'll read the reports.

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Speaker 4: No, that's absolutely fair.

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Speaker 2: I think for me is where I'm at is you know,

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Speaker 2: the offense should probably be even more high scoring than Detroit's.

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Speaker 2: And remember Miles Sanders still tied with Jalen Hurts for

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Speaker 4: So I see a lot of ways for Swift hit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, like I said, I think Penny does seem

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Speaker 1: But I wouldn't go berserk just because he does have upset.

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Speaker 5: I just think the better value is still Penny around

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I would agree. I think it's more so

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Speaker 2: they resigned Boston Scott gave him just over one million

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Speaker 2: And even though I think both of these guys struggled

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Speaker 2: I think Scott's the better value if you're gonna take one,

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Speaker 1: I had no idea he was that high.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely not, because he probably needs two injuries to hit him.

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Speaker 5: In terms of Boston Scott, he's nothing but a troll

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Speaker 5: He's not somebody you draft. But if you have Swift

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Speaker 4: That he just might.

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Speaker 2: But just you know, especially in redraft, just kind of

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Speaker 5: me on Goddard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have any problem there.

441
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Speaker 2: I just I do love the consistency, so even if

442
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 2: he falls off a little bit, it is a long

443
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Speaker 2: way down because he was a top thirteen tight end

444
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 2: in ten of twelve games he played, yeah, and the

445
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 2: other two twenty seventh and thirty first, So it wasn't

446
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 2: even like he was putting up a straight you know,

447
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Speaker 2: like zero and it's still kind of in the startable range,

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00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 2: you know. It wasn't like he was putting up like,

449
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Speaker 2: you know, backup numbers in those other two games.

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Speaker 4: So backup for a teap for the league. I mean,

451
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 4: you know, like the thirty two teams.

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00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 5: To be fair, AJ Brown and DeVante Smith played all

453
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Speaker 5: seventeen games last season.

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Speaker 1: So that probably won't happen again. I mean it could,

455
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Speaker 1: but it probably won't.

456
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Speaker 5: So he has some upside there that kind of goes

457
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Speaker 5: back to what you were saying about DeVonta Smith, how

458
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 5: he kind of went off when godd It was out

459
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 5: those four games. So there's that element as well. But

460
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Speaker 5: at the end of the day, like we know who

461
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 5: is at this point top five tight end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look like around the same page here, you know

463
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Speaker 2: you're sweeper for the Egos or Shad Penny and mineus

464
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 2: as well. I will put the caveat of not in

465
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Speaker 2: best ball just because you know, those ten the maxing

466
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Speaker 2: out of ten games for four years in a row.

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Speaker 4: I'd just rather have.

468
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Speaker 2: The security of being able to swap him out if

469
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Speaker 2: he happens to miss more time. And then both of

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Speaker 2: us think Kenneth Gainwill is going to bust as a

471
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Speaker 2: borderline Top fifty running back with Swift and Penny now

472
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Speaker 2: in tow, especially with Boston Scott probably making the roster

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Speaker 2: yet again.

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Speaker 4: Let's move on to the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: So the big news here new play call Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 2: taking over for Kellen Moore who went to the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: They do have a new OC, but he's not gonna

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Speaker 2: call plays and it's Brian Schottenheimer. But you know, I

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Speaker 2: like what I hear from McCarthy in terms of, you know,

504
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Speaker 2: having more purpose and making the team kind of understand,

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00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 2: you know, some of those details that maybe they were missing,

506
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 2: having some of those meltdowns in the postseason, so maybe

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Speaker 2: you could be better.

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Speaker 4: But you know, you know, he's worried with.

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Speaker 2: These head coaches the area have so much on their plate,

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Speaker 2: you know, So I don't know is this Does this

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Speaker 2: have any kind of discernible effect in your projections.

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Speaker 4: For the Cowboys?

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Speaker 5: Not yet, but it could because you know McCarthy says

514
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Speaker 5: he wants to run the ball more. Plus you know

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys have played with such a fast pace under

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Speaker 5: Calling Moore.

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Speaker 1: If they saw it on.

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Speaker 5: The pace, that's gonna take away five ten plays possibly.

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Speaker 1: From the offense. So those things do add up.

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Speaker 5: I'm not in a hurry to make any like huge

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Speaker 5: changes to my projections, but it's something that we need.

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Speaker 1: To keep an eye out on.

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Speaker 5: Plus, you know, Dak gains a quality number three receiver

524
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 5: and brand Cooks, but he does lose Dalton Schultz, so

525
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 5: that it could be a different looks on the offense.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I.

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Speaker 5: Still view Dak as you know, a high floor, low

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Speaker 5: end QB one. He just doesn't carry the same rushing

529
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Speaker 5: upside anymore since his injury. He's only scored two rushing

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Speaker 5: touchdowns the past two seasons after that leg injury. So

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Speaker 5: I think QB ten makes sense. But if you're in basketball,

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Speaker 5: I think you have to stack him. I think that's

533
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Speaker 5: how you unlock his upside is stacking him with you know,

534
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Speaker 5: Lamb Cook's gallop those guys in order to get his upside.

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Speaker 5: But he seems priced about right.

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Speaker 4: Here's that.

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Speaker 2: Here's a question I have for you actually because and

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Speaker 2: I just thought about this, but Ezekiel Elliott four double

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00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: digit touchdown seasons in his seven that he played with

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Speaker 2: Dak no longer on the roster. Might that increase Dak's

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Speaker 2: running usage? Maybe maybe just around the goal line, because

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Speaker 2: I remember, you know, Mcarthurrough and Aaron Rodgers. Even as

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00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: Rogers kind of ran less, He's still s going to

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00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: be pretty active around the goal line. So I mean,

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Speaker 2: maybe there's some upside there with zeke On because twelve

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00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: touchdowns in fifteen games last year, ten touchdowns in seventeen

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Speaker 2: the year before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's interesting. I'll have to dig into that.

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Speaker 5: I think Pollard theoretically could just take all those touchdowns away,

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Speaker 5: and it could be a situation where you mentioned where

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Speaker 5: you know, the Chiefs after Mahomes had that an injury,

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Speaker 5: they don't like him running it in near the goal line.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if it's a schematic thing with Dak

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Speaker 5: they're trying to preserve him.

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Speaker 1: Have to look into that. Plus Zeke could return, right,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about that on the bit.

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00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 5: So yeah, I could all wash out, but yeah, certainly

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Speaker 5: if you know they want to give him more goal

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00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 5: line carries, that's going to help get his touchdowns back up.

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Speaker 5: But it just was interesting to see that since his

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Speaker 5: leg injury. It does correlate with what I don't happen anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah's let's hold on the running back.

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00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: Let's keep going with the passing game. Because you did

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Speaker 2: say something interesting. You said Cooks was the wide receiver three.

565
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: He's being drafted as the team's wide receiver.

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00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I misspoke to actually have a third receiver.

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Speaker 1: They didn't have one last year.

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00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 4: But that's but that's fair.

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Speaker 2: But let's start with seeding Lamb and then we'll get

570
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: into took some gallup. Lamb's wide receiver seven first year

571
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: in the league, targeted a twenty one percent of his route,

572
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Speaker 2: second year twenty two percent, third year twenty six percent.

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Speaker 2: He's still only twenty four years old. His yards per

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Speaker 2: route has been increasing every year one point eight, two

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Speaker 2: point one, two point four. His touchdowns per catcher been

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Speaker 2: going up from seven percent to eight percent, you know,

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Speaker 2: to eight and a half percent. So really nothing not

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Speaker 2: to like about Lamb, even you know, with Cooks kind

579
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Speaker 2: of replacing Shultz. I still think, you know, usually like

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Speaker 2: the guys at the top of the target total pole,

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Speaker 2: they're not really being affected. It's just the it's being

582
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Speaker 2: kind of mixed up with everyone under.

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Speaker 4: So I still think Lamb is.

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Speaker 2: Good enough to be drafted as a as a top

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Speaker 2: ten wide receiver.

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00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 4: Any pushback, there.

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00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: No no pushback whatsoever.

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00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 5: It was not shocking to see him have his first

589
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Speaker 5: one hundred plus reception season. I mean when he was

590
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 5: drafted in the first round twenty twenty, I was waiting

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Speaker 5: until what year three when they would move on from

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Speaker 5: either Cooper or Gallop. So he is the true number

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Speaker 5: one target in its offense. He's entering year four, he's

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Speaker 5: twenty four years old. What's that to love? So, yeah,

595
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 5: he's certainly a top ten wide receiver, one of the

596
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 5: best in the game. So even if Cowboys do become

597
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 5: a little bit more run heavy, play at a slower pace,

598
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter. Lamb's gonna see such a massive target share.

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00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 5: Love him at you know, wide receiver seven.

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Speaker 2: One of three Cowboys being drafted the top ten at

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Speaker 2: their position at wide receiver seven, along with Prescott QB

602
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Speaker 2: ten and Hollered at RB nine.

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Speaker 4: But talk to me about your boy, Michael Gallup.

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Speaker 2: He's going wide receiver sixty nine compared to wide receiver

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Speaker 2: forty two for Brandon Cooks. I have a sneaking suspicion

606
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Speaker 2: that you think this should be a little bit closer. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: No, to be clear, to revise what I said earlier,

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Speaker 5: I do think Cooks will be the number two wider receiver,

609
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 5: but I think Gallup the gap should be closer. You know,

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Speaker 5: he's wide receiver sixty six. I'm projecting him inside the

611
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Speaker 5: top sixty. You know, he's only twenty seven years old.

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Speaker 5: He played at less than one hundred percent last season.

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Speaker 5: Like he definitely struggled last year. He wasn't able to

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Speaker 5: even debut until like week five.

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Speaker 1: They ease them in.

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Speaker 5: McCarthy has mentioned expanding Gallup's round tree. You know, there's

617
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Speaker 5: been some really good news around Gallop. I still think

618
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Speaker 5: he's a really good receiver. And the Cowboys lost Dalton Schultz,

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Speaker 5: so while that they picked up Brandon Cooks, there's still

620
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Speaker 5: going to be you know, extra targets to go around

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Speaker 5: with Schultz. We'll talk about tight end later. I don't

622
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Speaker 5: know if anybody's gonna be able to make up for Schultz.

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Speaker 5: So there's a chance it's a Gallop does end up

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00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 5: being the number two target in this offense. I don't

625
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 5: think it's likely, but there's a chance. So I think

626
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 5: he's the better of value right now at wide receiver

627
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 5: sixty six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because and you mentioned it, Gallup's twenty seven, more

629
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Speaker 2: than a year removed from the Aco McCarthy saying Gallup

630
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: ran too many go routes last year.

631
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Speaker 4: Yeah, which that's you.

632
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Speaker 2: Know, kind of music to our ears, because that's when

633
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: you don't get target. You know, you will get targets,

634
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: but they'll be inefficient, and you know for everyone you hit,

635
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: you'd rather just get like a higher target chair and

636
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: more and you know, more catches in these PPR days

637
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: that we live in. So if he's not going to

638
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: exclusively play the X and he's not going to run

639
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: too many go routes, what do you think is going

640
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: to take over for that? The guy they just trade

641
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: a fifth and a sixth for Brandon Cook. So you said, yeah,

642
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: maybe it's not like I would actually say, if they

643
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: both stay healthy for the same amount of games, I'll

644
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 2: still give Brandon Cooks the but I would say it's

645
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: a lot closer to like sixty forty, fifty five, forty

646
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Speaker 2: five at you know, sixty forty probably at most that

647
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: Gallup could outscore Cooks and potentially even be the number

648
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: two target, because again we're literally talking about running him

649
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: running less, low percentage routes which then have to be

650
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: taken by you know, another guy who can fly and

651
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: can play the atsu receiver in Brandon cook. So yeah,

652
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: I think Gallup is a one of my favorite sleepers

653
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: of this, you know, of Juna of as we record

654
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: this now, so I'm totally on board, which is there

655
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Speaker 2: no no real qualms with Cooks at wide Receiver forty two,

656
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Speaker 2: you know, I just I think the value for Gallup

657
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: is so much better, whereas I think Cooks is a

658
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: little bit closer.

659
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 4: To a ceiling.

660
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: So not a big Cooks fade or anything like that,

661
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: but I'm just gonna I'm just gonna want a lot

662
00:32:53,480 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 2: more shares of Michael Gallup here at wide Receiver sixty nine.

663
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: And then you know you mentioned Schultz, He's in Houston

664
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: only got a one year deal there, so you know,

665
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: obviously the Cowboys felt they could replace him, and the

666
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: market kind of proved them them right. So Jake Ferguson's

667
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: going as tight end thirty two. Luke Schoonmaker, rookie out

668
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: of Michigan's second rounder, is going as tight end forty.

669
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: And what I think is interesting about this is Ferguson

670
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: was pretty good last year the underlying metrics twenty one

671
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: percent targets per route, one point seven yards per route,

672
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: but him and fellow rookie Peyton Hendershot actually split snaps

673
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: pretty even.

674
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 4: So this to me just looks like kind of a

675
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 4: a stay away.

676
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: But I feel like schoon Maker is the wave of

677
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: the future, and Ferguson is going to play a lot

678
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: but not really produced the way Schultz did it, if

679
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: that makes sense, because I look at his aid and

680
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: I think that I read something about Schottenheimer and just McCarthy.

681
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: They wanted a guy who could make plays further down

682
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: a field, and Jake Ferguson's average depth of target was

683
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: three point one. So I'm I'm gonna fade Ferguson even

684
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: though there are some things to like.

685
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 4: But what about you. What are you doing with this

686
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 4: this guy in room.

687
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, it's a tricky situation because we can't just

688
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 5: ignore it because Dalan Schultz is leaving a lot of

689
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 5: targets behind, and Dalen Schultz he wasn't some elite talent.

690
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: I think he do. He definitely benefited from the scheme.

691
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 5: So if one of these guys does win the role,

692
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 5: they could seriously pan out. So I think it is

693
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 5: worth trying to figure out who will be right now.

694
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you.

695
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 5: I think right now, Ferguson has the inside track just

696
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 5: because he already has a year owners belt. You know,

697
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 5: they kind of split time with him and Hendershot and

698
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 5: Ferguson outplayed him, So I think he is the current favorite.

699
00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 5: But you know, uh Man Screonmaker. You know, he's more talented,

700
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 5: but he's a rookie. But the Cowboys really passed up

701
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 5: on some quality pass catching tight ends in the draft.

702
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 5: I mean, they could have ended up with Sam Laporta,

703
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 5: Michael Mayer. They really passed up on some elite tight

704
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 5: end so they kind of got the best of the

705
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 5: rest in Screwmaker, and he does have some upside. I think,

706
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 5: you know, he's a good blocker. He was limited production

707
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 5: wise in college, but that had mainly do with the

708
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 5: scheme at Michigan. He could be a quality pass catching

709
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 5: tight end in the right scheme, so I think he

710
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 5: could pan out. But he's a rookie tight end, so

711
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 5: they're usually behind the eight ball, and he's been dealing

712
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 5: with a planner fasciatus injury where he's in a walking boot.

713
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 5: He's missing OTAs, so that's not a great start. So

714
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 5: that's something I'm gonna have to monitor. But this is

715
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 5: a situation. I think it's going to between Screwmaker and Ferguson,

716
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 5: and I think they are worth dart throws in this

717
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 5: range just because if one of them does pick up

718
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 5: just say seventy eighty percent of Adulton Schultz role, they're

719
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 5: going to be a home run in the late thirties

720
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 5: at ADP. So this is something we have to monitor.

721
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 5: But I think it's gonna be one of those two guys.

722
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think if we had an injury

723
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: that would doubt qualify things a lot. But I think

724
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 2: the way it's going now, like the tight ends probably

725
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: gonna be the designated pass blocker if they keep went

726
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: in because not only do you have Raam Cook's gallop now,

727
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: but you also have Pollard as the RB one where

728
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 2: Zeke was not really a past he was a good

729
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: pass blocker, not really a great or he you know, better.

730
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 4: Served as a pass blocker. I want call him great,

731
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 4: but Poward you want him in the route.

732
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, I just can't get behind Ferguson with with

733
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: school Maker going in the second and the three the

734
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: three yard a dot and so yeah, I would take

735
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: a school Maker if push came to shove at forty.

736
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: He's eight spots flower anyway, So yeah, Pollard he's going,

737
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 2: I mentioned as a top ten back. Looks like he's

738
00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: making you know, good good progress recovering from that ankle injury.

739
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, what do we always say about him?

740
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 2: You know, he's just nasty, like he's he's going to

741
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: be the starter, no Zeke.

742
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: I mean we've been waiting for this, right, Yeah, a

743
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 3: season with harb one overall upside right absolutely, if in

744
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 3: less and less, I mean, if Christian McCaffrey stays healthy,

745
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 3: maybe not, but I mean Howard is you know he

746
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: has that just on efficiency alone?

747
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 5: Oh yeah for sure, Oh yeah, top five for sure,

748
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 5: potentially top two.

749
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: I would go there. Hopefully they don't bring Zeke back.

750
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 5: They could, and you know they have some backups there,

751
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 5: but I don't think they're gonna make any noise. I

752
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 5: think the plan would be to have Paular be the

753
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 5: workhorse back. It looks like he is coming along with

754
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 5: his U. The high ankle sprain obviously should be fine

755
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 5: by now in his broken fibula, so I'm not too

756
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 5: worried about his Week one status, but we have to

757
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 5: monitor it.

758
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: Either way, he should be a top ten off running

759
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: back off the board.

760
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, any I know Deuce Vaughan was a

761
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: Day two pick, but he's more like a cavanteur been type,

762
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: you know, in that realm where I think it's gonna

763
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: be one of Davis or Jones to kind of get more.

764
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 4: You know what, what we would look at is the

765
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 4: Zeke role.

766
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: Any any David's going to RB seventy eight, Jones eighty three,

767
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: and Vaughan actually seventy five. Any thoughts on just the

768
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: best option to cuff since they're all pretty much free

769
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: as of right now.

770
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 5: Well they're not free, and that's one of those situations

771
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 5: where there's not much clarity so I tend to stay away.

772
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 5: But Malik Davis really flashed whenever he got touches last year,

773
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 5: so he's worth the flyer. I wouldn't touch Ronald Jones,

774
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 5: but I liked Who's fine. Like before he got drafted

775
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 5: by the Cowboys, I actually considered him like a miniature

776
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 5: Tony Pollard. Now he'll never be able to be a

777
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 5: workhorse back at his size, right, but he can certainly

778
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 5: make some noise in like a limited role. But until

779
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 5: we get any clarity, I'm not really bargaining these guys

780
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 5: as high upside injury, you know, upside backs, because any

781
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 5: one of these guys could could be that guy. So

782
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 5: we'll just watch this sort out. But it's between Lake

783
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 5: Davis and Duke's fun for me for sure.

784
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: Oh really, so you're just out on uh On Rojo's

785
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: He's only twenty six, you know, Davis twenty five.

786
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 4: I actually think I think that the Zeke role is

787
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 4: actual roll for him. So I'm not counting him out.

788
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 4: I'm not counting him out, you know, I'm.

789
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 5: Not counting him out like to make the team and

790
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 5: score some touchdowns, but just in terms of fancy upside

791
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 5: on counting him out in that really okay, I think, oh.

792
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: I think I think Davis has upside. I think Duke

793
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: Von certainly has him upside.

794
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 4: I just I just see that. I just see Vaughan

795
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 4: is more of like a gadget guy.

796
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 2: Like I know he's running back by trade, but I

797
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: think he's going to be used more as like uh

798
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: returner and uh receiver. But I think if you know,

799
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: if they need another guy to give you know, like

800
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: eight to ten carries to, I think it would be

801
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: one of Davis and Yeah, and I do think it's

802
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 2: somewhat close, right.

803
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, de just could probably handle eight to ten. That's

804
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: about it.

805
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 2: I just I just don't know if he gets him

806
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: in year one, because well, you know, the Cowboys were rookies, haven't,

807
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: you know, like turping didn't do much?

808
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: What is it?

809
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: You know, just like you haven't you only see the

810
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: rookies do a ton, and they do have kind of

811
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: a veteran squad.

812
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 4: But I could be wrong, and.

813
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: I do like dude, he's he's certainly exposed it. But

814
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just envisioning more of like a gadget role.

815
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 5: Yeah he's five five, but he is nasty, so like

816
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 5: a Cohen kind of.

817
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, that's some side.

818
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Cohen popped off his rookie yars, so something

819
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: to keep in mind. But yeah, that's one I think

820
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: we'll just have to uh, we'll just have to monitor.

821
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, they're all going in like an eight pick

822
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 2: string in terms of running back.

823
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 4: So yeah, I kind of agree with you.

824
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: You might want to just wagh off until we get

825
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: some clarity because the two of those guys are going

826
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 2: to be busted pretty much of the three.

827
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 4: So yeah, we're on the same page with Sleepers.

828
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 2: We both love, love, love, love love Michael Gallup probably

829
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: one of the most undervalued players. I think at this stage.

830
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 4: No busts for you.

831
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go out and say I think Ferguson will

832
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: be a bust at tight End thirty two. I just

833
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 2: I just don't know how much the A dot increases.

834
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: And I just think that you know, them kind of

835
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: going out and getting schoon Maker, you know, kind of

836
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: signals that it's not you know, they're not just happy.

837
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: They just kind of slot Ferguson and then Hendershot in

838
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 2: who you know, some thought, you know, maybe you could

839
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: if Schultz wasn't like a massive talent either, you know,

840
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: it might have been okay with Ferguson and Hendersrup, but

841
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: know they went out and got another guy. So I'm

842
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: gonna say Ferguson at tightened as one of the top

843
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 2: thirty two tight ends in the weekue I'm going to

844
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: say by the end of the year he is not

845
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 2: in that in that category. Let's go to the New

846
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 2: York Giants who overhauled their passing game. Sort of kind

847
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: of yeah, I mean there's a lot of time here.

848
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 2: We can start with Daniel Jones. He's going to QB

849
00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 2: thirteen and for me, I don't know where are you

850
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: at with Jones?

851
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 4: TB thirteen high low?

852
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 1: About right, it's about right.

853
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 5: I mean this time last year he was going QB

854
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 5: twenty eight and I think both of us were screaming

855
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 5: about him and Jared Goff go on that lound around

856
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 5: that late. But he's pretty expensive now, but he was,

857
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 5: you know, QB nine and points per game, and thanks

858
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 5: in large part to just his rushing ability. You know,

859
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,479
Speaker 5: he puts up massive rushing numbers. So if he were

860
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 5: to have a better supporting cast around him in the

861
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 5: passing game, you know, that could unlock you know, an

862
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 5: even higher ceiling.

863
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: So I do like what they did, you know, bring

864
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: in Darren Waller at tight end.

865
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 5: They drafted Jail and Hyatt on the third round, who's

866
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 5: a potential deep threat to be what Kenny Galladay was

867
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 5: supposed to be. You know, they added Paris Campbell, Jamison Crowder,

868
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 5: Windelle Robinson, Strolling Shepherd or returning from injury. So I

869
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 5: just think that more depth to survive the injuries because

870
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 5: he's never had a full season with his pass catchers.

871
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 5: So I do like his upside. I think give me thirteen,

872
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 5: it's pretty steep for me. I'm probably not targeting there,

873
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 5: but if he falls outside the top fifteen, absolutely signed

874
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 5: me up.

875
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: For Daniel Jones.

876
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 5: I just think he does have that high floor ceiling

877
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 5: combo with his rushing ability and potentially unlocking his passing

878
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 5: ceiling this year that I think the market is finally

879
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 5: appropriately ranked them.

880
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

881
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 2: Like, I'll definitely have some of him on my team

882
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: just because, you know, all things considered, I would rather

883
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: get the guy with some rushing up so, but I.

884
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 4: Agree he's kind of priced where he needs to be. Now.

885
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: The one thing I did notice, and I'm thinking this

886
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: trend like we will continue in weeks one through ten,

887
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: they ran a very very vanilla offense passing wise, just

888
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: about under thirty four called passes per game, calling a

889
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: past just fifty three percent of the time, and Jones

890
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,479
Speaker 2: only threw for one hundred and seventy seven per game

891
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:00,479
Speaker 2: from week eleven on over forty called passes per game.

892
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: That's a sixty three percent rate, so up ten percent,

893
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 2: fifty three to sixty three from week eleven on, and

894
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: that translated into about fifty five more passing yards per

895
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: game for Jones. It was just over two hundred and thirty.

896
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: So you know, they do have some more depth now

897
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 2: the pass catcher positions. I think they'll be comfortable continuing

898
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 2: to open it up. And I also think the Giants

899
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 2: got pretty lucky in the first you know, you know

900
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: half of the season. They remember, they were just like

901
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: winning all these games and kind of keeping things close,

902
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 2: and I think it kind of evened out a little

903
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: more down the stretch.

904
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 4: And I look at their schedule this year and that's

905
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 4: part of the reason.

906
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: I know, I don't love Daniel Jones either, but I

907
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 2: think it'll be more challenging. I mean, you face Dallas

908
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: San Francisco in the first three weeks Miami and Buffalo,

909
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 2: you know by week six, which are two good defenses.

910
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: The Jets in week eight, the Cowboys in week ten,

911
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: the Patriots in week twelve, the Packers and Saints should

912
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: be pretty soud in fourteen fifteen, the Eagles in sixteen,

913
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 2: and then mixed in you've got some really good matchups

914
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: Cardinals a week two, rams In in the final and

915
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 2: week seventeen. But a lot more difficult matchups I see

916
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: this year on the sleep and easy ones, which could

917
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: eat some more passing but also less efficiency.

918
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 4: There's no Vikings. Well why you know like that?

919
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure David's got like one hundred and ten

920
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: percent of his production against the Vikings last year, and

921
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 2: ed Donnodzel pull over now for him because Brian Flores

922
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 2: is there now, so their defense should be better. But yeah,

923
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: that's it's I'm not excited about Daniel Jones the way

924
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 2: I was last year.

925
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 4: But let's cut it.

926
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: Let's let's take a deep breath, let's try to figure

927
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: out what the fuck these receivers to do, because I

928
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: I mean.

929
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 4: This is hilarious.

930
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna read off these eightp's, the ADPs

931
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: and also the sheared amount of them is hilarious. You

932
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: got so you got wide receivers for the Giants that

933
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: are that have an ADP in best ball right now,

934
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: Jalen Hyatt at wide receiver seventy two is the highest.

935
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: Wide receiver seventy two is the highest. But then yeah,

936
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 2: wide receiver seventy four, Wando Robinson. That's two wide receiver

937
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 2: eighty two, Paris Campbell, that's three wide receiver eighty six,

938
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 2: Isaiah Hodgins. That's four wide receiver ninety two, Darius Lee

939
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 2: and that's five count them, five giants between seventy two

940
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: and ninety two, which means no one knows what the

941
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: fuck's gonna happen.

942
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 4: So tell us what do you think is gonna happen?

943
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 5: I mean, I told you over a month that guy said,

944
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 5: wait till you start projecting the Giants. They have like

945
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 5: forty seven slot receivers. I was waiting for you to

946
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 5: tell me.

947
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 4: I got I got it. Some thoughts, but some thoughts. Yeah,

948
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 4: I want to hear you first.

949
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 5: The receiver with the clearest path to the role that

950
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 5: they have is Jalen Hyatt, So I think he's probably

951
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 5: worth being the first Giants receiver off the board, and

952
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 5: it's hilarious that's the first receiver off the board is

953
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 5: wide receiver seventy two. That just sums it all up.

954
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 5: But you know they draft him in the third round.

955
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 5: He profiles as a deep threat. He kind of reminds

956
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 5: me of a Will Fuller Robbie Anderson type, so he's

957
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 5: gonna have a wide range outcomes week to week, but

958
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 5: that's who he is. And Arrey have Darius Slayton who

959
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 5: kind of already does that role pretty well, so he'll

960
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 5: have to beat him out, But I think he has

961
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 5: the clearest path to hitting value, whereas all these other guys,

962
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 5: I mean, I think Wandel Robinson has the best path

963
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 5: for these like pioneer slot guys. I mean, Paris Campbell

964
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 5: has some upside, but he's never been able to stay healthy.

965
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 5: Isaiah Hodgens and pressed last year, so it wouldn't shock

966
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 5: me if he's still a top two target. They still

967
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 5: have Sterling Shepherd Jamison Crowder, so who knows how this

968
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 5: is gonna sort out, But they can only have three

969
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 5: receivers on the field at a given time, and they're

970
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 5: gonna have to compete with Darren Waller, So this isn't

971
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 5: really a situation to invest in other than the occasional

972
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 5: flyer in basketball. On Jalen Hyatt, because I think he

973
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 5: will have a few games where he pops off for

974
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 5: a long touchdown and that's kind of what you want

975
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 5: from a guy outside of the top seventy. But other

976
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 5: than Matt, your guess is as good as mine.

977
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've spent it's I like, I love Hyatt's talent, quick, fast, guy,

978
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: can challenge deep from the slot. I think what's going

979
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: to happen is so remember Wandale's coming off of torn

980
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: a cl he tore it late November. Shepherd tore his

981
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: ACL as well, that was a little earlier. He also

982
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: we didn't even mention Shepard he doesn't even have an ADP,

983
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 2: but he got brought back. So what I think is

984
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 2: going to happen is I think Darius Slayton is in

985
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 2: Paris Campbell are going to have roles in week one

986
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 2: because if you look at the guaranteed money they resigned

987
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 2: Slayton too a two year deal about five mil guaranteed

988
00:48:55,400 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: and Paris Campbell about four point seven mil guaranteed. Hodgens

989
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: got zero money guaranteed money. Shepherd got zero guaranteed money.

990
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: Either of those guys could be cut or be a

991
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: healthy scratch. Shepherd is also a candidate to open the

992
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 2: year on the pup, as is Wandale. But Paris Campbell

993
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 2: was a slot receiver last year. However, the year before,

994
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 2: he played ninety one percent of his snaps out wide,

995
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 2: so I think he's going to play more out wide.

996
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: Shepherd played two thirds of this if it snaps out wide,

997
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 2: so if he's a factor at all, I think he's

998
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 2: also going to be competing out wide. So I think

999
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: the perimeter depth is going to be Slayton, Campbell one two,

1000
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 2: and then one of Hodgens or Shepherd. I think if

1001
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: Shepherd's not healthy, I think Hodgens makes the team. But

1002
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: when you look at his underlying metrics, they're not as

1003
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: good as sheperd Slayton's excuse me, and then Slayton got

1004
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 2: five mil guaranteed in a two year deal. Hodgens got

1005
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: less a year, eight seventy K and nothing guaranteed, So

1006
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: that kind of tells you which one of those two

1007
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 2: they've even though the numbers work somewhat similar down the

1008
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 2: stretch last year, and then in the slot, that's where

1009
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be the two young guys.

1010
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be Hyatt, who, yes he can

1011
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 2: play outside, but he played eighty nine percent of his

1012
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: career snaps at school in the slot. So I think

1013
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 2: as a rookie, I don't I don't know if they're

1014
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 2: gonna especially you know, they have other guys that like

1015
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: have also played inside outside that they could you know,

1016
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: put outside. So I think Hyatt is kind of the

1017
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 2: Wandale insurance remember both kind of you know, Day two picks, ye,

1018
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: So I think that's how it's gonna go. Slayton, Campbell

1019
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 2: and then Hyatt. Wandale would be the top four, maybe

1020
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: Wandale Hyatt, if Windale is healthy and Hyatt would start

1021
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 2: as the four, and then if Hyatt also struggles, or

1022
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: you can also put Campbell in the slot, and and

1023
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 2: you can go Slayton, Hodgens and then Campbell in the slot.

1024
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: But I think ideally they'd like to have one of

1025
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: those two rookie you know, those the top four as Wandale, Hyatt,

1026
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: Slayton and Campbell. Like I think those would be their

1027
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: ideal top four, which Sheppard just kind of chilling for,

1028
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: you know, leadership purposes and Hodgens maybe he makes a

1029
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: team out on the practice squad, but the guaranteed money.

1030
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,479
Speaker 4: Speaks volumes for him.

1031
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: So Slayton being that he's the lowest, the guy with

1032
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 2: the lowest ADP. You know, if I had to say

1033
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 2: one of these guys, I'm gonna take. I like Hyatt too,

1034
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: but just like I don't have a problem with him.

1035
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: I think he's probably probably out. He does have some

1036
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: much but I think Slayton has a little bit more

1037
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 2: room to grow because he was wide receiver just outside

1038
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: the top fifty fifty one in PPR fifty two and

1039
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 2: half PPR in twenty twenty two, and he played only

1040
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: two thirds of the snaps, which you know, there's a

1041
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 2: chance he just keeps playing like ninety percent of the

1042
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: snaps because he got five most, the most guaranteed money

1043
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: out of anybody, and there's really not many other guys

1044
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 2: that can truly are true outside receivers.

1045
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 4: So at wide receiver ninety two, I don't mind him.

1046
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: I think he has some room to grow in his

1047
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 2: ADP and could He's always been very consistent, just kind

1048
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 2: of in that you know, sixteen seventeen percent targets per

1049
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 2: route about one point four yards per route.

1050
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 4: Campbellge is one point one career yards per.

1051
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: Route, so it's about, uh like about a zero point

1052
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: three yards per route more for Slayton. So I think

1053
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 2: if they run the same amount, Slayton will be more productive.

1054
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 2: So all these things kind of wead me to saying, yeah, hi,

1055
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,479
Speaker 2: hiot obviously, but I think Slayton actually is the most

1056
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 2: undervalued because I think he might get the most routes.

1057
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 5: It's just the underlying stable force, right, just hit show

1058
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 5: and just to throw another wrinkle into it, I feel

1059
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 5: like Brian Dable doesn't give a shit how much money

1060
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 5: you're making your draft capital. Remember projecting them last year,

1061
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 5: David Sills, the fourth or the fifth or whatever, was

1062
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 5: the starting receiver, and then they started Marcus Johnson. Yeah,

1063
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 5: she started Isaiah Hodgins and we had no idea at

1064
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 5: the time. So don't count out Jeff Smith, Haltl Pimpleton

1065
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 5: or Bryce.

1066
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 4: For Cowin Johnson, that's the guy. That's the guy you

1067
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 4: need to watch. He's another guy coming out an injury.

1068
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 4: He was ripping up camp last year. Avin Johnson could

1069
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 4: end up being this year's Hodgens. He could.

1070
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 5: I'm just saying even these guys were not talking about

1071
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 5: one of them can pop up because Davill doesn't care.

1072
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 5: He's just gonna play whoever he thinks gives them the

1073
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 5: best chance of that week. So, needless to say, this

1074
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 5: is an absolute show regardless.

1075
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: Waller's a tight end seven, he is aged, he's thirty

1076
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 2: one now. His targets per route have been declining and

1077
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 2: went from twenty seven percent to three years ago, twenty

1078
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 2: four percent two years ago, just seventeen percent last year.

1079
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 4: But some of that may not just.

1080
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 2: Be aged, may just be the presence of Devonte Adams,

1081
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 2: who was an absolute target hog. Yeah, I don't think

1082
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: Bellinger he is brolock now. I don't know if you

1083
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: saw a pitcher of Bellinger lately, but he's got like

1084
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: ridiculous biceps now. But he only got targeted twelve percent

1085
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 2: of his routes. Only his a dot was barely over four.

1086
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: So I think, you know, Waller is gonna be kind

1087
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: of like a like a slot receiver, probably be the

1088
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: number one receiver in terms of targets. So I was

1089
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 2: down on him a little more earlier, but I've kind

1090
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: of come around just because I think I do think

1091
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 2: DeVante had something to do with the precipitous decline in

1092
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: targets per round. I think he could get back up

1093
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: that least, you know, above twenty post. Yeah, but you know,

1094
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 2: tight end seven. I really don't like taking a tight

1095
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 2: end in this range. I'll probably stilln't have a ton

1096
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 2: of waller. But I don't know what are your thoughts

1097
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: on waller.

1098
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm similar because you know, I chalk up his

1099
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 5: eighteen percent target per route round rate due to playing

1100
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 5: next to DeVante Adams. I think in this offense it'll

1101
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 5: clearly be over twenty percent way over, but there just

1102
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 5: won't be as many targets or yards to go around,

1103
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 5: if for being honest, So I think that does cap

1104
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 5: his upside a bit. You mentioned you know he's going

1105
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 5: to be turning thirty one. He was a late bloomer,

1106
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 5: so he's probably a lot older than people think. And

1107
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 5: he just hasn't been able to stay healthy in the

1108
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 5: past couple of seasons. There's been some times where he's

1109
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 5: suffered an injury and we thought he'd be out one

1110
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 5: or two games, it ends up being five or six.

1111
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 5: So he just hasn't been able to play through what

1112
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 5: seemed like lesser injuries. So that's that's a concern for me.

1113
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 5: So tight end seven sounds fair for him, But I

1114
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 5: just think tight ends so deep this year. If I

1115
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 5: don't get one of the top three or four, I'm

1116
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 5: comfortable taking flyers on these tight ends outside of the

1117
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 5: top ten. So this is sort of the range, right.

1118
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 5: I tend to punt on tight end and he's no different.

1119
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 5: I think he does have a ton of upset in

1120
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 5: this offense, but it is pretty limited.

1121
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd rather.

1122
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 2: Just you wait a little bit longer, allow a bit longer,

1123
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: and get like a Chigo coon Quo or even a

1124
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 2: Kincaid or somebody like that. Saquon is going as RB

1125
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 2: five in the run game. You know, efficiency about went

1126
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: from about three point seven yards a carry to four

1127
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: and a half last year.

1128
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:43,479
Speaker 4: I think that's just you know.

1129
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: Another year removed from the injury, and the old line

1130
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: got better, about a half yard better in terms of

1131
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 2: adjusted line yards to take another step forward. Twenty six

1132
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: years old, so probably at least one more year before

1133
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: he starts truly declining. So I don't have much. I

1134
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 2: don't have much on him. Anything on Saquon.

1135
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 5: No, just that we kind of called his bounce back season.

1136
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 5: Last year he was fully healthy and he's still one

1137
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 5: of the best running backs in the game when he's healthy,

1138
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 5: so it wasn't shocking to see him play well. Like

1139
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 5: you said, you know, he's gonna be twenty six this season.

1140
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, it's the tail end of his prime.

1141
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 5: I think we get one more elite season before we

1142
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 5: have to start worrying about decline. I have him as

1143
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 5: my RB three right now, so I'm I'm actually drafting

1144
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 5: him over Bijon or Jonathan Taylor, although it's very close,

1145
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 5: so I've a little bit higher than consensus. I think

1146
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 5: if you get him at RB five, that's a steal,

1147
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 5: but either way, he still carries that number one overall.

1148
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: Kind of upside.

1149
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, yeah, I think I have him at

1150
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 2: three as well, because you know, Bijon, it's we just

1151
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 2: don't know yet, Like we love the talent, yeah, but we.

1152
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 4: Just don't know. We haven't seen it.

1153
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: And and Taylor, you know, there's some uncertainty, don't you know,

1154
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 2: new offense, uh, you know, new quarterback. Just a lot

1155
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 2: of new news going on, so little more stability, more

1156
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 2: confident projection with with Saquon all right, So the recap giants.

1157
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 2: You like Jayal and Hyatt the rookie as a sleeper.

1158
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: I like Darius Slayton.

1159
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 4: You don't have a bust.

1160
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 2: I think Isaiah Hodgens likely is a bust, just because

1161
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 2: again I think you know, now that they've had a

1162
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 2: year to kind of evaluate these guys, I think you

1163
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 2: could pay a little more attention to the money and

1164
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: what's going on, and they clearly made their choice of

1165
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 2: Slayton over over Hodgens. And I think, you know, if

1166
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: all the guys are healthy, I think Hodgens is the

1167
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 2: one to kind of, you know, he's the one to

1168
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 2: kind of be the odd man out. Let's go to

1169
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: the Washington commanders, and uh, we do have Eric b

1170
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: Enemy coming in replacing Scott Turner. The enemy now with

1171
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 2: the caveat that he had Patrick Mahomes, he was eighty

1172
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 2: seven eighty second percentile and pass attempts over the last

1173
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 2: five years. Now he wasn't calling plays, so that again

1174
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 2: it's like maybe nothing even to take away, but he

1175
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: is kind of experience. He's been in a pass much

1176
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: more past heavy offense. He's learned under Andy Reid, who's

1177
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 2: a past heavy guy. Washington has been right around the

1178
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 2: average in pasth attempts overall in Rivera's tenure, but the

1179
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: last couple of years they've been below average.

1180
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 4: You know, you have.

1181
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 2: Brissett here, you have Sam Howe here QB twenty eight

1182
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: and thirty seven, respectively. Do you think maybe we get

1183
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 2: back to you know, we averager above even with the enemy.

1184
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.

1185
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 5: Like I said, I think a lot of the heavy

1186
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 5: lifting with the enemy, his past ads are just due

1187
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 5: to having Pastor Holmes and with the chiefs.

1188
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,959
Speaker 1: But I think it certainly couldn't hurt.

1189
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 5: And I thought Sam Hall should have started way earlier

1190
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 5: last year. So I think he'll get the first crack

1191
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 5: out of it this year.

1192
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: You know, he couldn't.

1193
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 5: He can't be much worse than Carson Wentz, Tyler, Hennikey.

1194
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 5: He always gave me how that is, gave me like

1195
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield vibes with more rushing upside. I think that's

1196
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 5: sort of the potential for him. However, the fact that

1197
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 5: Washington signed Jacoby Brissett, you know, would mean Hall has

1198
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 5: a shorter release, Like if he really struggles, it's gonna

1199
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 5: be very easy for them to plug in Bersette. So

1200
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 5: you can't really project howl for sixteen plus games. But

1201
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,479
Speaker 5: you know, if he does end up playing that much,

1202
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 5: like I think he's gonna be a home run at

1203
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 5: GUD twenty eight. However, I'm just not targetting him. I

1204
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 5: think he does have a wide range of outcome, So

1205
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 5: if he falls outside of the top thirty, I'm interested,

1206
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 5: but not at twenty eight just because we can't project

1207
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 5: him for more than sixteen games.

1208
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is again, it is a guy I would

1209
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 2: take in redraft, just not in bastball because I do

1210
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 2: think it's you want that rushing he does. He doesn't

1211
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 2: have like you know, justin fields or anything like that

1212
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: rushing upside, but have more rushing upside than the average quarterback.

1213
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 2: And you know, he does scramble a lot, at least

1214
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 2: he has. You know, we've seen that in the regular season,

1215
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 2: We've seen that in preseason. We've seen that in college

1216
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 2: as well, so you know, him scrambling scrambles are worth

1217
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 2: about the same yardage as a pass attempt, about you know,

1218
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 2: seven yards. So I do like him, and I would

1219
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 2: I don't mind him at twenty eight as long as

1220
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: he's the Week one starter and you just kind of

1221
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: ride it until he gets Benched. I think, you know,

1222
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 2: because again I just think that rushing, that even that

1223
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 2: little bit of rushing upside is valuable. So so I

1224
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 2: do like how there, But but you're right, I think

1225
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 2: he definitely will have a short leach, which of Kobe

1226
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: Brissett is one of the premier backups.

1227
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 4: In this league.

1228
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the run game because you

1229
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: know the same way I think Gallup is probably the

1230
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 2: guy I'm the highest on compared to ADP. Brian Robinson

1231
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: Junior is probably the guy in the lowest on. He's

1232
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 2: going at RB thirty two. And I've talked about this

1233
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 2: all the words, all the reports here out of camp

1234
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 2: is the enemy and Rivera talking up not only Antonio

1235
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 2: Gibson but also six rounder Chris Rodriguez, who the Enemy

1236
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: apparently would bang the table for and is an early

1237
01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 2: down physical short yardage back I believe. So, you know,

1238
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 2: I think the writings on the wall and Rivera finally

1239
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 2: did get it have a quote about Robinson and he

1240
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 2: was like he wants him to be more of like

1241
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: like you know, like it's.

1242
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 4: Not just about him type of thing.

1243
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: And then he kind of qualified and say, oh, it

1244
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 2: goes for everybody, but it's not good that he's kind

1245
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 2: of calling him out. So everything is pointing to Robinson

1246
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 2: having a lesser role, and he's a volume based, inefficient

1247
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: back under four yards to carry in his rookie year,

1248
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 2: just two touchdowns on two hundred and five carries under

1249
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: seven yards to catch as well, and barely got any

1250
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 2: catches fiftieth out of sixty running backs of yards after

1251
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 2: contact according to PFF, which is not what you want

1252
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: to see for an early down guy, and also game

1253
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 2: script dependent seventeen over seventeen carries a game last year

1254
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 2: despite playing just forty three percent of the snaps, and

1255
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 2: Washington was six five and one in games he played.

1256
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 2: They have one of the lowest win totals in the

1257
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 2: league this year and a very tough schedule.

1258
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 4: So for me, everything pointing towards Gibson.

1259
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: But I also think there's a chance that roder Riguez

1260
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 2: ends up at some point overtaking Robinson, because again new

1261
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 2: regime and just everything we've been hearing is kind of

1262
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 2: pointing away from Robinson, and he like, statistically speaking, he's

1263
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 2: really given us no reason to, you know, be optimistic,

1264
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 2: either with efficiency or anything like that.

1265
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: Exactly. No, I'm right there with you.

1266
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 5: I mean, at the end of the day, he's an

1267
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 5: early down back that you know, he's a goal line back,

1268
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 5: early down back that kind of needs positive game scripts

1269
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 5: hit value, and he's on a team with a six

1270
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 5: and a half win total, one of the worst teams

1271
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 5: in the league, so he's not going to have as

1272
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 5: many game scripts.

1273
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: That you'd like.

1274
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 5: And the fact that they drafted the running back that

1275
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 5: compliments him the most. You know, Chris Rodriguez is a

1276
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 5: powerback who is a direct competitor to Brian Robinson is

1277
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 5: another red flag.

1278
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: So just given he's going in the same range.

1279
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 5: As Alexander Madison and Khleil Herbert, who I would take

1280
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 5: one hundred percent of the time over him.

1281
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 3: Penny Penny too, oh Penny, Well yeah, Penny is still I.

1282
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 4: Would take Penny over him.

1283
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well I'm not taking Brian Robinson at

1284
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 5: thirty two. But yeah, even if he were to follow forty,

1285
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 5: it wouldn't matter because I would take Penny over him

1286
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 5: as well. So yeah, I think right now he's just

1287
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 5: being overdrafted for sure.

1288
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1289
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 2: Gibson, Uh, you know, RB thirty eight probably a little bit,

1290
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 2: a little bit of a p I'd actually rather take Gibson.

1291
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 2: Bari said he would like to see Gibson get quote

1292
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 2: unquote more more tries obviously, and you know, remember Scott

1293
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 2: Turner's gone, so that makes it seem like maybe Turner

1294
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 2: that was more Turner and and yeah, again the game script,

1295
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: you know, forget Rodriguez, just the game script in general

1296
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 2: should favor Gibson moreeah. And then we've seen Gibson with

1297
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 2: this role in the past, so it's not like we're

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01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 2: projecting crazily here.

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01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 4: The pass catchers.

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Speaker 2: You know, Terry McLaurin wide receiver twenty one, I mean,

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01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 2: he's very consistent. I think the only you know, if

1302
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 2: we get a pass heavier kind of scheme with the enemy,

1303
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 2: I think that's the thing that will help him hit

1304
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: his ceiling.

1305
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 4: But I'm fine with him at twenty one. What about you?

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01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, I think he should go inside the top twenty.

1307
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: You know, he's one of those.

1308
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 5: Wide receivers who's way better in real life than fantasy,

1309
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 5: just because he's typically held back due to poor quarterback play,

1310
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 5: and that should certainly be tased again this year. But

1311
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 5: I thought the fact that they brought in Jacoby Brissett

1312
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 5: helps Terry mclaurin's floor, just in case Howell is a

1313
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 5: complete disaster, He'll out least have Jacobe Brissett, who can

1314
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 5: hold down the fort And I think mclauren will be

1315
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 5: a lock to be a top twenty four receiver either way.

1316
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 5: So I just love getting a guy like McLaurin this chief.

1317
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 5: So I definitely like him in this range.

1318
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 2: And there's a big disparity between Dotson at wide receiver

1319
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 2: thirty nine and then Samuel at wide receiver seventy six.

1320
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 2: You know, Samuel obviously was a favorite of Turner's, but

1321
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 2: I get some of his best years without Turner, and

1322
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 2: the enemy had Mikole Hardman, and he was always.

1323
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 4: Very efficient and productive in that offense.

1324
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 2: So what do you think of Dotson entering your twit

1325
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 2: inside the top forty and Samuel way down there at

1326
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 2: seventy six.

1327
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: I think their ADP should be a lot closer.

1328
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 5: You know, I love Dotson as a prospect heading out

1329
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 5: of college. You know, he reminded me of Tyler Lockett,

1330
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 5: Elijah Moore, that kind of player. However, last year, you know,

1331
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 5: his touchdown total is a bit flukey. You know, twenty

1332
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 5: percent of his receptions were touchdowns. I don't know if

1333
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 5: you can bake on that just having Sam Hall and

1334
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 5: Jacoby Brissett and the Commander's offense in general. So I

1335
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 5: think he's just being overdrafted based on that. But I

1336
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 5: think he will be the clear number two target in

1337
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 5: this offense behind Terry McLaurin. But I just don't think

1338
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 5: that's worth taking him inside the top forty. I just

1339
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 5: don't think this offense is going to produce, you know,

1340
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 5: to top forty receivers. So getting Curtis Samuel way later.

1341
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 5: While it's not like this Texas thing, I'm not saying

1342
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 5: I would do it, he does provide a very high

1343
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 5: floor in the seventies the wide receiver seventy range, just

1344
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 5: because we have to remember Jad mckessik is gone, so

1345
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 5: I think Antonio Gibson's going to handle a lot of

1346
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 5: that leftover work. But you know, Curtis Samuel is sort

1347
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 5: of a quasi running back wide receiver where he could

1348
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,439
Speaker 5: get three to four direct rush temps of game, three

1349
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 5: to four receptions a game, and then that wide receiver

1350
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 5: seventy five range, Like that's a pretty high floor. You

1351
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 5: can't really count on that many touches from anybody in

1352
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 5: that range. So I think he's he's an interesting option

1353
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 5: way later than Dotson, but I think those two their

1354
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 5: ADP should be a lot closer, although I would lean

1355
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 5: Dotson of course.

1356
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1357
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, dads in the year two weeks,

1358
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: you know, there is some unrealized upside, but you know,

1359
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 2: fifteen percent target rate, so he's got a ways to

1360
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 2: go up.

1361
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 4: And the adat was fifth over fifteen.

1362
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 2: So it could just be one of those you know,

1363
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 2: low percentage route situations where it's not about the player

1364
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 2: but just kind of the role he has, you know,

1365
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 2: might lead to some inconsistent results, especially when you're taking

1366
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 2: into the top forty.

1367
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 4: But yeah, you know Samuel going away later.

1368
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 2: Now, his his production did go down some with Dotson

1369
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 2: in the lineup one point six yards per route in

1370
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 2: the five games, without one point one five yards per

1371
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 2: route in the in the games with Dotson. But like

1372
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 2: you said, I don't think Diami Brown is gonna like

1373
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 2: take out any of those wide receiver three snaps. And

1374
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 2: I also think Samuel could also factor in at the

1375
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 2: running back position, like as you mentioned, like I'm a

1376
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 2: Kissic type, so no problem with that, Logan Thomas.

1377
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 4: It's probably over for him age thirty two.

1378
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 2: His yards per route went from one point three two

1379
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 2: years ago too point nine under one last year.

1380
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, not too much to like.

1381
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 2: There a couple of younger guys behind him, but yeah,

1382
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 2: that's that's gonna do it for through a ton of

1383
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 2: players once again, to recap for the Commanders, you like

1384
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 2: Sean Gibson as a sleeper on his team, and Curtis Samuel.

1385
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 2: I like Gibson and in deeper leagus Chris Rodriguez, why

1386
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 2: not take a fire. I think he could end up

1387
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 2: at some point overtaking Robinson and then yeah, we're both

1388
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 2: on Robinson to bust, and yeah, I think I would

1389
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 2: say that's my most confident guy that I think will

1390
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 2: not hit his ADP in the league at.

1391
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 4: This point at running back thirty two. So there you

1392
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 4: have it.

1393
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,240
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01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,280
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01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,240
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