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Speaker 1: Welcome back in an Hour number two Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: As we are rolling through the Wednesday edition of the program,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the drama surrounding the attacks on Pete Hegseth. Also,

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Speaker 1: and I think this could turn into a big story

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Speaker 1: in New York. A prominent healthcare executive. It appears basically

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Speaker 1: assassinated outside of a midtown New York hotel. They are

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Speaker 1: chasing after whoever might have done this as we are

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Speaker 1: speaking to you. Also, the Daniel Penny deliberations continue. The

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Speaker 1: former marine who was charged with what is the officially

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Speaker 1: charged with negligent homicide?

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Speaker 3: Is that based in voluntary manslaughter? Involuntary manslaughter? Well, actually

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Speaker 3: there's two. There's a higher charge and a lesser charge.

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Speaker 3: I believe the lesser is involuntary manslaughter, but I.

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Speaker 1: Have to check lower standards of basically that is underway.

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Speaker 1: Deliberations in that jury going on. There also is a

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Speaker 1: really important Supreme Court case that has been argued, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they've officially finished or not, but

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Speaker 1: it is close to being done about what is and

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Speaker 1: what is not permissible when it comes to healthcare for

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Speaker 1: miners related to gender related issues. And I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: avoid using the phrase buck gender affirming care because it

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Speaker 1: just sounds so orwellian to me. Basically, this is an

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Speaker 1: easy question for me, and I would imagine for many

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Speaker 1: of you as well. Should a minor be able to

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Speaker 1: have surgery that permanently alters his or her body based

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Speaker 1: on the idea that they are a different gender than

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Speaker 1: their biology. My answer for that, as a parent and

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Speaker 1: also just as someone who is a citizen of the

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Speaker 1: state of Tennessee is no. I believe my state, Tennessee

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Speaker 1: actually made the right choice when they said we're not

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Speaker 1: going to allow this to happen for minors. I think

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Speaker 1: Buck twenty some odd states have also agreed, So the

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Speaker 1: implication here is not just for Tennessee. Now, the Biden

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Speaker 1: administration says all the time, anytime these kind of stories

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Speaker 1: come up.

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Speaker 2: Why do you care?

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Speaker 1: It doesn't happen very often, for instance with women in

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Speaker 1: men's sports or sorry, men and women's sports. Here, the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration is specifically arguing the state of Tennessee does

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Speaker 1: not have the right to say miners can't have these

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Speaker 1: gender altering lifetime surgeries.

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Speaker 2: That seems highly rational to me.

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Speaker 1: Again, the analogy that I've made, I know you push

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Speaker 1: back on it a bit buck in terms of but

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Speaker 1: they're claiming it's healthcare. But we do things all the

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Speaker 1: time that don't allow miners to alter their body. For instance,

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Speaker 1: most states out there, you couldn't be fourteen and go

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Speaker 1: get a tattoo. Your parent could actually be charged with

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Speaker 1: a crime if they decided that they wanted to take

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Speaker 1: you to get a tattoo. In other words, parents can't

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Speaker 1: even consent to tattoos. The idea being that children shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have permanent alterations to their body in the form of

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Speaker 1: a tattoo, because miners aren't able to make rational, legitimate

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Speaker 1: decisions about things such as that. Once you're over eighteen,

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Speaker 1: you can make.

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Speaker 2: A choice like that.

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Speaker 1: Right, we restrict access to many different things based on age.

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Speaker 1: This seems highly legitimate and reasonable. If you want to,

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Speaker 1: after the age of eighteen, change your gender via surgery,

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Speaker 1: and by the way, you can't change your gender, but

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Speaker 1: you can't alter your body's appearance so that you appear

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Speaker 1: to be one gender different than the one you.

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Speaker 2: Were, maybe that's okay.

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Speaker 1: I think most people probably agree that's Okay, even though

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Speaker 1: I doubt that very often that makes people much happier.

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Speaker 2: That's my personal opinion. But the idea that.

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Speaker 1: A child should be able to do this is beyond

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Speaker 1: the pale to me, and many children out there are

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Speaker 1: making the decision that all of this is crazy, and

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Speaker 1: so there's a pushback against it, but the Biden administration

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Speaker 1: is arguing that it shouldn't be possible. Katanji Brown Jackson

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Speaker 1: Buck in the oral argument, I believe we have this audio.

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Speaker 1: Compare not allowing children to have these gender surgeries, get

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Speaker 1: puberty blockers, get your boobs chopped off, for lack of

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Speaker 1: a better way to describe it, to banning interracial marriage

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Speaker 1: by a state.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this argument. Listen to this audio.

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Speaker 4: The question was whether it was discriminatory because it applied

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Speaker 4: to both races and it wasn't necessarily invidious or whatever.

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Speaker 4: But you know, as I read the statue here, excuse

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Speaker 4: me the case here. You know, the court starts off

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Speaker 4: by saying that Virginia is now one of sixteen states

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Speaker 4: which prohibit and punished marriages on the basis of racial classifications.

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Speaker 4: And when you look at the structure of that law,

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Speaker 4: it looks in terms of incontinuing you can't do something

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Speaker 4: that is inconsistent with your own characteristics is sort of

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Speaker 4: the same thing. So it's interesting to me that we

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Speaker 4: now have this different argument, And I wonder whether Virginia

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Speaker 4: just making a classification argument the way that Tennessee is

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Speaker 2: Case, she's a moron. Buck.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to make that argument. There are all sorts

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Speaker 1: of restrictions all over the United States on the age

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Speaker 1: at which you can get married. You can't consent to

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Speaker 1: your twelve year old getting married, to my knowledge, in

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Speaker 1: any state in America.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Some states might allow you to get married at sixteen,

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Speaker 1: some say seventeen eighteen age of consent laws v. This

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Speaker 1: is all true, but it's all under the premise that

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Speaker 1: age does have some impact when it comes to all

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Speaker 1: of our cognition and every single person out there listening

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Speaker 1: to us right now, Buck, a lot of us had

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Speaker 1: moronic ideas when we were thirteen or fourteen years old.

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Speaker 1: Thankfully we weren't able to act on them fifteen sixteen.

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Speaker 1: The idea that you would try to compare this to

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Speaker 1: banning interracial marriage is so moronic that it actually makes

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Speaker 1: my head hurt. This is so many lies put together

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Speaker 1: that it is almost overwhelming when you try to address it.

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Speaker 1: You start with they keep calling this healthcare. And to

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Speaker 1: call this healthcare just because.

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Speaker 3: It involves scalpels and surgery would be to also say

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Speaker 3: that somebody who has body identity disorder or somebody who

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Speaker 3: has the mental health condition where they really want to

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Speaker 3: have their limb removed. This is a real thing, everybody.

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Speaker 3: It's a real thing. You can look this up. I

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Speaker 3: feel like I would be happier if you just took

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Speaker 3: my arm off. I want to do it safely and medically. Doctor,

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Speaker 3: please remove my healthy arm. And he's saying. Doctor who

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Speaker 3: believes in their oath and believes in their craft is

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Speaker 3: going to say no, I'm not going to surgically remove

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Speaker 3: your healthy arm. Okay, calling it health care doesn't make

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Speaker 3: it healthcare. It's not healthy when you look at the

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Speaker 3: long term outcome. By the way, the long term term

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Speaker 3: outcome data, if it was good, you would know all

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Speaker 2: It's not.

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Speaker 3: It is incredibly bleak, especially for people who start as

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Speaker 3: they are minors, because of the physiological changes that occur.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: Not only are you changing your parts. If you are

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Speaker 3: an adult, Clay, you're changing the basic hormonal biochemistry of

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Speaker 3: you to become an adult. It is irreversible and it

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Speaker 3: is damaging. Okay, this is irreversible damage over the long term.

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Speaker 3: And then you add to that it is not even

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Speaker 3: possible based on the realities of science. You cannot become

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Speaker 3: a woman. If you could become a woman as a man,

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Speaker 3: you would be able to have babies. Men straight do

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Speaker 3: all of these things. Modern medicine cannot do that. As

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Speaker 3: many miracles it can have. The whole idea of a

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Speaker 3: gender transition is a fallacy. It is not real.

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Speaker 3: If it was real, we wouldn't have trans women. We

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Speaker 3: would just have women, men and women. Why do we

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Speaker 3: there's something physiologically separate. And this is not even getting

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Speaker 3: into the specifics of this law in this case where

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Speaker 3: they want to make it so that this is something

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Speaker 3: that the medical system is pushing on minors, and in

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Speaker 3: addition to pushing it on miners, they push it on parents.

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Speaker 3: And beyond that, I think when you see what's really

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Speaker 3: at the root of all this, they're trying to create

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Speaker 3: an additional class of protected person, which is yeah, by

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Speaker 3: the way, I said, body integrity dysphoria, right, that's something Yeah,

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Speaker 3: healthy limb remove that's what that's right. That's the team

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Speaker 3: was checking me on that one. It's a real thing.

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Speaker 3: You can look it up. It's in the DSM. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's reality. People have this and they need psycheatric help.

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Speaker 3: They need psychiatric assistance, which, by the way, was the

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Speaker 3: medical diagnosis for people who thought they should change their

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Speaker 2: Very long time.

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Speaker 3: And if you look at the person who is in

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Speaker 3: charge of gender transitions for decades at Johns Hopkins University

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Speaker 3: Medical System, which was the epicenter of gender transition surgery

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Speaker 3: for many many years, he's written about this publicly. Now now,

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Speaker 3: of course, you know he's quieter, he's maybe even change

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Speaker 3: his mind because of all the death threats and all

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Speaker 3: the activists and the lunatics going after him. You know

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Speaker 3: what he found claim they shouldn't have been doing it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't help people, It doesn't do the thing that

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Speaker 3: able to have both their legs removed or be intentionally paralyzed,

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Speaker 3: because that is a psychiatric condition that also involves a

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Speaker 3: medical procedure that we know is not something you should

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Speaker 1: And I think uniquely here the fact that these are

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Speaker 1: about this just construct in general. We are saying as

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Speaker 1: as many different states right for an eighteen year old

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Speaker 2: Many of you out.

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Speaker 1: There, if you are around my age or Buck's age,

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Speaker 1: You were not allowed to look, by and large at

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Speaker 1: a naked female body in a magazine until you were

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Speaker 1: over the age of eighteen. That was the choice that

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Speaker 1: most states still have on the books. I know the

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Speaker 1: Internet has changed a lot of this, but let's talk

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Speaker 1: about the law. You're simultaneously arguing, Yes, the state should

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Speaker 1: have the ability to regulate what kids can see, but

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Speaker 1: the state eight shouldn't have the ability to regulate what

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Speaker 1: body parts of a child can be removed. So think

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Speaker 1: about this. I mean, it's a relatively easy analogy. It's

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Speaker 1: too damaging for a sixteen year old boy to see

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Speaker 1: not allow that magazine to be purchased. But a sixteen

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Speaker 1: for life because she thinks she's a different gender than

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Speaker 1: so key because I don't agree with these gender reassignment

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Speaker 1: I think adults should be able to make bad decisions.

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Speaker 1: They should have the freedom to do that.

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Speaker 3: Well, the freedom to do that position, unfortunately has resulted

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Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you.

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Speaker 1: For rolling with us this chaos and craziness inside the

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Speaker 2: I think it's fair to call it that. It actually is.

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Speaker 1: Important for you to understand how crazy some of these

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Speaker 5: Nobody has to provide this medication to adolescents. These are

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Speaker 1: You will soon have a two year old. You will

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Speaker 3: that's a woman, And I'm sorry, I just won't and

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Speaker 3: I refuse. And people can get mad and they can

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Speaker 3: say that's mean, and they can say whatever, it's not true,

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Speaker 3: and people can try to force me to say things

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Speaker 3: that are not true. But I am always going to

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Speaker 3: have a problem with that and I'm going to refuse.

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Speaker 3: And the idea that two year olds know they are trans,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I ask the trans advocates this, So can

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Speaker 3: people realized they're entrans because that is a thing too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So how can you be.

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Speaker 3: Born with something that is immutable and needs to be

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Speaker 3: a constitutionally protected characteristic. If you can go the other way,

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Speaker 3: if you can go back, you can say I made

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Speaker 3: a mistake. This is this is a shike, you know.

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Speaker 3: It's by the way, the detransitioning thing is something they

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Speaker 3: absolutely they pretend it doesn't exist, but it is real.

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Speaker 2: It's real.

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Speaker 3: And what they do here, what they're doing, what they're

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Speaker 3: trying to do kids as monstrous. Tennessee did the right

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Speaker 3: thing by trying to remember they're not even stopping this

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Speaker 3: for adults. There's a whole other thing that should be

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Speaker 3: the conversation about should adults even be doing this? I mean,

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Speaker 3: having their legal right to do it is one question.

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Speaker 3: Being encouraged by society to do it is another. I mean,

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Speaker 3: if you find out clay what it looks like for

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Speaker 3: people who have they call it bottom surgery. It is

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Speaker 3: an unhealing wound.

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Speaker 1: That has to be give sick to think about, right,

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Speaker 1: like the physics of it and the physicality of what

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Speaker 1: it requires.

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Speaker 2: But you can think about.

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Speaker 3: It, it can't happen. Someone could say I want to

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Speaker 3: become a zebra, and you could do a lot of

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Speaker 3: things to them, but you actually cannot create a zebra

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Speaker 3: out of a human being. You actually cannot create a

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Speaker 3: woman out of a man. It is not possible. Again,

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Speaker 3: it is a lie. And so that's really where you

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Speaker 3: see the lies pile the top lies here. And they've

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Speaker 3: used courtesy and they have used decency, and they have

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Speaker 3: used kindness to push this issue to the point where

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Speaker 3: now they want a decree from the Supreme Court that

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Speaker 3: nobody can stand in the way of a thirteen year

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Speaker 3: old girl who's or boy or whatever, who is learning

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Speaker 3: about life, who knows nothing, who's not legally allowed to drink,

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Speaker 3: who's not legally allowed to consent to sexual activity. Who's

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Speaker 3: not legally allowed to get a tattoo, as you point out,

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Speaker 3: but get your breasts removed or it could take puberty blockers.

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Speaker 3: It is insane what is going on. And we will

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Speaker 3: not get a single medical doctor, by the way, who'd

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Speaker 3: be willing to come on the show and actually defend

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Speaker 3: these processes, these procedures other than just to say I'm

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Speaker 3: a doctor and I just do what the medicine is.

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Speaker 3: They won't describe what really goes on well.

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Speaker 1: And also this is important too. I think there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of blackmail intellectually that's going on here because what

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Speaker 1: they say to parents, they take advantage of parental love

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Speaker 1: and acquiescence in many ways. They say, would you rather

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Speaker 1: have this is a common thing. Would you rather have

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Speaker 1: a live daughter or dead son or vice versa. The

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Speaker 1: idea being your kid is going to kill themselves if

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Speaker 1: they aren't allowed to have this gender surgery, and parents

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Speaker 1: feel blackmailed because God forbid any parent out there suicide

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Speaker 1: if you ever have to go through it. The idea

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Speaker 1: that your choice would directly implicate whether your child is

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Speaker 1: alive is emotional blackmail to parents. So a lot of

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Speaker 1: parents question this, but they have doctors telling them this,

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Speaker 1: who are doing these surgeries, and but this just came

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Speaker 1: down today. I do think it's kind of consequential credit

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Speaker 1: the LPGA. The LPGA has banned anyone who was born

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Speaker 1: as a male from ever being able to compete in

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Speaker 1: women's golf. This is a big deal because because there

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Speaker 1: have been men who decide they identify as women trying

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Speaker 1: to do what Leah Thomas did and become female golfers.

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Speaker 1: Here's the problem that I would point out. Here's the

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Speaker 1: direct quote. Athletes who are assigned female at birth are

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Speaker 1: eligible to compete on the LBGA Tour, Epsent Tour, European Tour,

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Speaker 1: all other elite LPGA competitions. Players assigned male at birth

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Speaker 1: and assigned male at birth like this phrasing is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: But players assigned male at birth, and here's a loophole

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Speaker 1: and who have gone through male puberty are not eligible

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Speaker 1: to compete in the aforementioned events. What they're trying to do,

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Speaker 1: buck is argue, once you go through puberty, it's harder

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Speaker 1: to change your gender. That's why they want these children

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Speaker 1: to get puberty blockers, to have these surgeries early. Because

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Speaker 1: until you go through adolescence, you don't develop adult sexual organs.

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Speaker 1: And I hate to say this, but that is a

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Speaker 1: form of direct child abuse that you wouldn't allow a

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Speaker 1: child to grow up.

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Speaker 2: But also.

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Speaker 1: This idea in general is actually encouraging younger transitioning because

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Speaker 1: they are saying, if you can delay puberty, then you

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Speaker 1: can change gender. This is the argument they're now making

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Speaker 1: to parents. And by the way, these puberty blockers, we're

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Speaker 1: just learning some of the impacts of this stuff, buck

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Speaker 1: because the people that had this done are just now

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Speaker 1: getting into their twenties and thirties. They are finding this

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Speaker 1: doesn't shouldn't shock anybody that your bones don't develop properly

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Speaker 1: when you restrict hormones estrogen, testosterone that would otherwise fuel growth.

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Speaker 1: So these people are not going to have normal lifespans.

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Speaker 1: They're rendered infertile for life. I mean just that by itself,

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Speaker 1: would you ever imagine that you would allow your child

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Speaker 1: at thirteen or fourteen to say I'm going to make

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Speaker 1: a decision that would never allow me to be a parent,

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Speaker 1: Because that's what's happening here. It's barbaric, there really is.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think this is one where we have to draw.

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Speaker 3: They have to be a firm line drawn on this one.

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Speaker 3: I do think the Supreme Court is going to find

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Speaker 3: in favor of Tennessee's Yeah, I do firmly believe that.

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Speaker 3: But I also know to give you a sense of

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Speaker 3: the power of this cult that sot to my Ore

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Speaker 3: and KBJ are going to find and Kagan are going

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Speaker 3: to find in favor or against the Barn Tennessee. It's

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Speaker 3: going to be a six to three decision.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, what is also going to happen

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Speaker 1: here is some states are going to specifically say this

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Speaker 1: is allowed, and parents who are diluted are going to

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Speaker 1: take their kids across state lines to get their genitals

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Speaker 1: shopped off. I mean, if you're in Tennessee, I bet

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Speaker 1: Illinois is going to allow this surgery. So you're going

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Speaker 1: to have parents crossing state lines to have these surgeries,

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Speaker 1: which is frankly why I think.

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Speaker 2: We need a national ban on this.

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Speaker 1: I hate to say that we have to do it nationwide,

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Speaker 1: but I think we do because the response, if you're right, Buck,

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Speaker 1: and I think you are, that the Supreme Court is

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Speaker 1: going to allow Tennessee to make this decision, is actually

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Speaker 1: going to be for left wing states because this has

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Speaker 1: become part of their orthodoxy to actually encourage people from

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Speaker 1: other states to travel there for the surgeries.

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Speaker 3: And you know that I know the mind of the

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Speaker 3: left because I've been dealing with them for a very

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Speaker 3: long time and grew up in a leftist enclave, Clay.

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Speaker 3: If it comes to it, and they've already started to

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Speaker 3: do this, you know, I know this has happened in

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Speaker 3: different places. If they had their way, and if the

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Speaker 3: if the lives on the Supreme Court and the Democrat

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Speaker 3: Party had their way, a twelve year old who says

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Speaker 3: I'm not a girl, or you know, I'm not a girl,

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Speaker 3: I'm a boy who has parents who say no, we're

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Speaker 3: not going to do that. They would have child services

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Speaker 3: coming in our and forced the transition and put the

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Speaker 3: parents in prison if they had to to make sure

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Speaker 3: that that transition went through, because that is how psychotic

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Speaker 3: they are on this issue.

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Speaker 1: You're right, And if the Supreme Court rules as we think,

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Speaker 1: I think it will actually accelerate the crazy in many

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Speaker 1: of these blue state enclaves. And that's why I think

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Speaker 1: we're going to have to do something on a nationwide level. Look,

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Speaker 1: we were just talking about testosterone turns out testosterone actually

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Speaker 1: kind of important for men. In fact, it gives much

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Speaker 1: of the energy, the vim vigor vitality to men to

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Speaker 1: get through our days out there. And if you don't

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Speaker 1: have enough testosterone, then you may be feeling a little

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Speaker 1: bit more tired. Maybe as we sit here on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: All natural testosterone. You use it for three months, you

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Speaker 3: Coming up in the third hour here, we're gonna dive

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Speaker 3: in to big story today. Pete Hegsath making a a

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Speaker 3: make sure that these senators know that he is the

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Speaker 3: Trump's secretary of Defense. There have been some senators I'm

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Speaker 3: just saying, you know, Lindsey Graham won. Lindsey Graham decided

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Speaker 3: stuff is changing all the time. You know, we like Pete.

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Speaker 3: We hope Pete gets through, and I think it sends

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Speaker 3: a strong message about this isn't going to be business

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Speaker 3: as usual at the Pentagon. But it's all down to

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Speaker 3: these Remember, we can say, as much as we want,

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Speaker 3: Trump should get the guys that he wants or guys

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Speaker 3: and gals that he wants, but Senate unless you're going

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Speaker 3: get it started. The Senate is what stands in the way.

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Speaker 3: We've also got Julie Kelly coming up. Clout talk to

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Speaker 3: that we're hoping are coming up, no doubt, and you're

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Speaker 3: have next week Monday to Thursday. I will be live

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited for that trip. You are going to

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Speaker 1: close up shop here, I'm gonna go hop on a

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow and then after that I'll be in Israel.

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Speaker 3: Julie Kelly talking Jay six pardons and also appointees coming

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