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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast. George

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Speaker 1: Nori with you, Rachel Stavis with us. Rachel, of course,

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Speaker 1: has written a book called Sister of Darkness. She's written

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Speaker 1: many other things too, we'll talk about that at a moment.

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Speaker 1: She is an exorcist. She's been able to visibly see

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Speaker 1: spiritual entity since she was a child. Eight years ago,

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Speaker 1: she began helping unwitting hosts to shed various attachments and

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Speaker 1: possessions through a form of energetic exorcism. And again, like

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Speaker 1: I mentioned, she's written several novels, one stage play, more

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Speaker 1: than short worries, including the acclaimed horror piece Playthings. You're

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Speaker 1: almost like Edgar Allan Poe, Rachel, Welcome to the show. Hi,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having me. I am obsessed with exorcisms,

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Speaker 1: especially the Catholic Church, and I think they have like

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Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty exorcists on staff. Is that true?

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Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, you know, back in the day,

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Speaker 1: we didn't even talk about exorcism as a real thing,

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Speaker 1: and oftentimes the church would say, no, we don't actually

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Speaker 1: do that. But I think it's actually becoming more popular now.

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Speaker 1: If that's that might be a weird thing to say,

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Speaker 1: but more outed might be better. Um, we're definitely talking

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Speaker 1: about it more now. Why why why are we doing that?

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Speaker 1: Why are we not afraid of this? Well? I think

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Speaker 1: to a certain degree we still are. But I think

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Speaker 1: at this point in time, with everything that's going on

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Speaker 1: in the world, people are becoming more conscious and aware,

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Speaker 1: and you know, with such a tumultuous time that we've

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Speaker 1: got going on, we start asking ourselves, you know, what

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Speaker 1: is the meaning of everything? What's out there? What you know?

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Speaker 1: How powerful are we as human beings? What change can

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Speaker 1: we make in the world? All of those things. I

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Speaker 1: think believe it or not, at least in the way

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Speaker 1: that I do, it are related to exorcism. Tell me

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Speaker 1: how you got involved in this, Rachel, Well, uh, as

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Speaker 1: you were saying, you know, when I was a child,

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Speaker 1: I was the kid just like all kids, who was saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a monster in my closet, there's a

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Speaker 1: monster under the bed, except that when people checked to

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Speaker 1: make sure there wasn't, you know, for me, it never

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Speaker 1: went away. And so for many, many years, I pretended

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Speaker 1: I didn't have the ability to see these weird things

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Speaker 1: different types of entities. Um, so you know, in trying

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Speaker 1: to be the same as everyone else, I just stop

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Speaker 1: talking about it. I stopped saying that I saw it,

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Speaker 1: and I tried to tune it out as much as possible.

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Speaker 1: And when I became an adult, I had a series

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Speaker 1: that happened, it was like, you know, the the options

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Speaker 1: And what do I do with it? And it's I

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Speaker 1: don't have to be a priest then to perform an exorcism, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, not necessarily, so obviously I'm I'm not affiliated

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. Okay, And you brought up energetic exorcisms,

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Speaker 1: we all interpret trauma differently. Right, When we have a

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Speaker 1: I have spent a lot of time Rachel and St. Louis,

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Speaker 1: during that exorcism went through some horrendous things. I'm sure,

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Speaker 1: it can be as as you know from from all

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Speaker 1: very dangerous. It can be really dark. Uh, it can

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Speaker 1: think that's in movies only. Actually, you perform generally your

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Speaker 1: exorcisms during the day. Why is that? Yes, Okay, so

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Speaker 1: if it's something like that that's going on, I can

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Speaker 1: see sometimes five clients a day because it's actually easier

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Speaker 1: If that makes there are that many people who are possessed.

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Speaker 1: Lots and lots and lots of people carry entity. Many

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Speaker 1: people carry entity and don't even know. I if I

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Speaker 1: seen in the experiences I've had, I would say probably

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