1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin. 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 2: Why did you do it? 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish. 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: dot com, Apple podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts. 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 4: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast, John Nick, Kenny Florian, 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 4: Do you want to podcast? 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 5: Great? 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 6: They have some audio on your website that nobody goes to. 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 4: He you're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian. 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 7: Oh what a weekend, Madison Square Guard UFC two seventeen. 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 7: Good to be back with you, Monday, November sixth, twenty seventeen. 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 7: Thank y'all for being here as always, Episode one thirty 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 7: of the Anak and Florian Podcast. 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 8: And I hope we sound clean. 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 7: A few technical difficulties off the top today, I mean 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 7: no sense lying about it. So when I'm here in 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 7: ken flow right now, it's a little shoppy flow, but 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 7: it's good to see you nonetheless. 23 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 8: Man, Sorry, we couldn't break bread in New York. 24 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 7: Obviously you had VIPs and everything else, and I had 25 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 7: to settle for just you know, a few minutes at 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 7: the damn Fox media lunch. 27 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean, what a weekend, dude, what a 28 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: weekend of fights. 29 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 6: I can't wait to get in with it. 30 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: But first I want to talk about this John Annick 31 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: director chair behind you? 32 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 6: What is that? What is that? What's going on here? 33 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: You? 34 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 6: Who are you director? 35 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 9: Now? 36 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 6: Are you a producer? What was this? 37 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 7: So I moved that into the shot with the soul 38 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 7: and of course our audio listeners, we apologize, we have 39 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 7: gone a video with Fox Sports right now, and we 40 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 7: promise we're not going to talk a bunch about what 41 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 7: people are seeing and not hearing. 42 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 8: But I got the director's chair right there. 43 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 7: Actually stole it after the UFC one forty five press conference. 44 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 7: So I was in Atlanta, and I was in between 45 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 7: John Jones and Marshat Evans, and we were doing that 46 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 7: press comp You know, we did a lot of those 47 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 7: CounterPunch type segments, and one time they tried to do 48 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 7: it for an actual press conference. So uh yeah, so 49 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 7: we stole the chair hopefully nobody's paying attention. So we 50 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 7: got the director's chair. I know, dude, you deserve one 51 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 7: of those, man. I mean, imagine you your hair sitting 52 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 7: in one of those. Be absolutely incredible. So crazy week, kids, 53 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 7: So Anakin Florian podcast for you. 54 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 8: Monday. 55 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 7: You leave for New York Tuesday, get home midday Sunday, 56 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 7: and then right back to the studio Monday morning for 57 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 7: the Anak and Florian podcast. So the wife, I would say, 58 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 7: probably not very happy with Ken fluoh reck. 59 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 6: Well no, I mean she she's fine with it. She understands. 60 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 7: She totally yes, exactly, And tell her you got a 61 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 7: lot of work in LA, you know. 62 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 3: Yeah. 63 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 8: I mean I'm always bouncing around, so you got a 64 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 8: lot of work in LA. 65 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 9: Yeah. 66 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 6: I need to make something out of this baby. 67 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 8: You got to do it, that's right. 68 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. 69 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 7: Uh So a couple other things before we get into 70 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 7: UFC two seventeen, which is obviously going to dominate the 71 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 7: show today. So I was with Body Armor to MC 72 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 7: this thing on Thursday, and I got to spend five 73 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 7: minutes with Kobe Bryant backstage, and I just have to say, 74 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 7: what an impressive guy. 75 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: Man. 76 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 7: I mean, he's just gonna go dominate business the way 77 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 7: he did basketball, And it was just very cool to 78 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 7: see him interacting with like Francis and Gano and Cynthia 79 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 7: Calvio and Cody Garbrand and the fighters that are now 80 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 7: part of Team body Armor, and I think you'd sort 81 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 7: of appreciate Body Armor a little bit. 82 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 8: And this is not an ad. 83 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 7: They're not paying me because you know, it's almost like 84 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 7: the gator Rade for this modern day athlete. Right there's 85 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 7: coconut water in their sports drink. There isn't like Red 86 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 7: forty and Yellow five in it. So I think they 87 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 7: have a good product. And it was just really cool 88 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 7: to see Kobe around these UFC athletes for me, and 89 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 7: I got to talk about the Celtics a little bit, 90 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 7: so that was good. Also Roy Hibbert, who is a 91 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 7: diehard UFC fan. He's like seven feet tall, former NBA 92 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 7: center and we've seen him in a lot of UFC shows. 93 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 7: So I saw him after the show and he's like, dude, 94 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 7: you got to get me on the podcast. So at 95 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 7: first I'm thinking, is he confusing me with Joe Rogan 96 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 7: or does he actually want to come on the Anne 97 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 7: and Florian podcast. But so NBA center Roy Hibbert going 98 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 7: to be with this in the next couple weeks, and 99 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 7: I think actually gonna make some picks against the flow, 100 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 7: So very excited about that. Also this weekend it was 101 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 7: the unveiling of EA Sports UFC three, and Kenny knows 102 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 7: I've been working on this video game over the past year. 103 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 7: Connor McGregor on the cover with a belt over each shoulder. 104 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 7: Very cool. But I've done a lot of these podcasts 105 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 7: this year from New York City because I've been up 106 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 7: there voicing the video game. And I just want to say, 107 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 7: and I told Kenny a little bit of this, what 108 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 7: an amazing opportunity, but literally the hardest, most challenging thing 109 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 7: I've ever had to do in broadcasting. I don't know 110 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 7: that I'd wish it on my worst enemy, honestly, dude, 111 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 7: Like more than eighty hours of voiceover work and a 112 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 7: lot of its repetition, a lot of its ad libs. 113 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 7: So it's a mental grind, it's a physical grind, and 114 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 7: rewarding in the end. But you know, people who know 115 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 7: me know it was a struggle, man, you know, I 116 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 7: mean my confidence at times thinking, you know, am I 117 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 7: really the guy for this? Like four hour sessions a day, 118 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 7: you think, oh you can do four hours, dude. The 119 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 7: whole process was just insane and and you know it 120 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 7: had It gave me anxiety. Man, I'm not gonna lie 121 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 7: to you. It was a lot. But I'm glad it's 122 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 7: in the cannon and hopefully we did right by the fighters. 123 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 8: You know. 124 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 6: Nice man, that's awesome. 125 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: I know you were working your ass off for that, 126 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: so I can't wait to check it out. 127 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 6: Here your voice, man, and see what this game is 128 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 6: all about. 129 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 7: Voice in like three hundred fighter walks in a day, 130 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 7: you know, and a lot of those are ad libs, 131 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 7: so it just you know, every time you utter something 132 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 7: they can put it in the game. So you're just 133 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 7: hopeful that that you're doing a good job every day. 134 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 7: And again, thank god, it's done, Freddie. I want to 135 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 7: the rest of the team thank you guys for the 136 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 7: support and the chance to do it. So anything else 137 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 7: do we need to talk about before we get going. 138 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 7: We're going to table the bitcoin stuff for next week. 139 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 8: TJ. Let's get to headlines. 140 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 4: Headlines. 141 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 6: It's time for headlines. 142 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: I have some very urgent and important breaking new headlines 143 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 4: and Kenny Florians podcast. 144 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 7: And seriously, thank you for the invite to dinner on 145 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 7: Thursday and Friday night, Ken Floyd, I do appreciate. 146 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 6: All right. 147 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 7: Sure, we're sitting here about forty hours after one of 148 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 7: the most amazing sporting events that I have called witnessed. 149 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 7: I mean, Ken Flow, you were in the building as 150 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 7: well at Madison Square Garden. I mean, are you kidding me? 151 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 7: With everything this show was start to finish, dude. 152 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 6: This is what makes this sport so damn great. 153 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: Man. 154 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 6: Is nights like that? 155 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 8: You know? 156 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: And I said it before and I'll say it again. 157 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: You can do all the analysis in the world. You 158 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: could see all the video, you could break it all down, 159 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: look at it, talk to the fighters, you know, check 160 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: your notes. But you'll always get surprises. That's what makes 161 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: combat so unpredictable. That's what makes this sport so unpredictable, 162 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: and that's what makes it so fun. 163 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 5: Man. 164 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 7: So this main event can flow George Saint Pierre, Michael 165 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 7: Bisping just unbelievable. I mean, big picture on the show itself, right, 166 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,559 Speaker 7: like if you were with us. Start to finish passed 167 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 7: through pay per view, first start. Yeah, two fighters get 168 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 7: knocked stiff as a board. Both had a hard time 169 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 7: coming to Amon's a hobby, and or Anderson on the 170 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 7: wrong end, the spinning back elbow for Hakar Ohamos, and 171 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 7: then Ovin Saint Prux with that left high kick. But then, 172 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 7: you know, we use replay a couple times, Kenny, after 173 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 7: those heavyweight fights, both of those fights ending with a faul. 174 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 7: You had Michael Bisping's cup. Not sure I've ever seen 175 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 7: that in a title fight. So so much to digest 176 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 7: some of it we probably won't get to. But let's 177 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 7: start with George Saint Pierre here, you know, the last 178 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 7: of three new champions crown here at UFC two to seventeen. 179 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 7: He joins Randy Cotor, BJ Penn Connor McGregor, the only 180 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 7: men to win a UFC title in two divisions. But 181 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 7: for GSP, Kenny, he does it after four years away 182 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 7: from the game. And I said before the fight, like, 183 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 7: far be it from me to doubt what the Michael 184 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 7: Jordan of MMA can do on any given Saturday night, 185 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 7: whether he's had four years off or otherwise. Massive night 186 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 7: for GSP, and and largely it was just great to 187 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 7: see Saint Pierre back in the octagon. 188 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was indeed, And you know, honestly, just from 189 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: seeing George perform for all these years. The four year 190 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: layoff wasn't really the issue for me in regards to 191 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: what his timing was going to be like if he 192 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: was going to be sharp, just because this is a 193 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: guy who always performs when the lights are on. GSP 194 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: just knows how to turn it on. He's the ultimate competitor. 195 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: And for me that the issue was how was he 196 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: going to respond to adversity, How was he going to 197 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: respond if he got hurt during that fight? Well, Michael 198 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: Bismack definitely hurt him a couple times during that fight, 199 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: landed some big shots, landed an excellent one to two 200 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: that definitely stumbled George at one point or at least 201 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: backed him up with a couple shots. 202 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 6: And it was the George in his prime. George just 203 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 6: responded like the warrior that he is. 204 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: This was not the the guy who responded by kind of, 205 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: you know, being on vacation or sitting on his couch 206 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: or whatever. This George Saint Pierre is a fighter through 207 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,599 Speaker 1: and through. He proved that and as far as his performance, 208 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: man just it was vintage GSP with some new wrinkles. 209 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: This was a GSP who attacked him on three different levels. 210 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: Of course, with his strike, I thought the striking, the jab, 211 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: especially his ability to mix things up, was confusing Michael Bisping. 212 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: He landed some excellent right hands on Michael, obviously, stumbled 213 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: him a few times during the fight, even landed a 214 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: beautiful wheel kick to the forehead of Michael Bisping. That 215 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: was something relatively new from George Saint Pierre. And then, 216 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: of course the wrestling, which we knew was going to 217 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: be a factor this guy. I've seen him take down 218 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: some of the best two hundred and five pounders in 219 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: the gym, so I really thought that George Saint Pierre's 220 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: wrestling was going to be a major factor, even at 221 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty five pounds. Just clean on the entry, 222 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: clean on the finish for the most part, just amazing 223 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: stuff from George. 224 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 6: And on the ground he is as strong as a gorilla. 225 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: No matter what way class you're in, you will feel 226 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: the strength of George Saint Pierre and his ability to 227 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: put the pressure on you, put the weight on you, 228 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: land that ground and pound chip away at you time 229 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: and time again. 230 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 6: And even though Michael was. 231 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: Able to get back to his feet, he was still 232 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: gonna expend a lot of energy doing it, and of 233 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: course Michael always comes in tremendous shape, but it wears 234 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: on you mentally, physically, and in the end, I think 235 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: Michael tried to get back to his feet. I know 236 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: that Dana Hurr was working a lot on George Saint 237 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: Pierre and particularly that instance when Michael would get back 238 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: to his feet. They worked a lot on taking the 239 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: back and when you're fighting someone like a Michael Bisping, 240 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: who is so damn tough, you don't want to go 241 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: for armlocks. You don't want to go for heel hooks 242 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: or leg locks, in my opinion, just because Michael won't 243 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: tap to that stuff. He's that tough, and he proved 244 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: it when he got the choke. He went out on 245 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: his shield. He never tapped, he never thought about tapping. 246 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: He was fighting all the way through. But in the 247 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: end it was the technique of George Saint Pierre getting 248 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: it done with that rear naked choke. 249 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 6: Just beautiful stuff. 250 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 7: And you damn well better have a good squeeze and 251 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 7: a good rear naked choke, right because Kenny, there are 252 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 7: guys who don't have the ability necessarily to choke a 253 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 7: guy unconscious, right, so better have a good rear naked 254 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 7: choke because you know, Michael Bisbing is certainly not the 255 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 7: tap in type. So yeah, I mean, I thought GSP 256 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 7: push through that wall when his cardio seemed to abandon 257 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 7: him a little bit in that second round. He talked 258 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 7: a lot about fight experience and his fight IQ and 259 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 7: how that might help him in the fight beforehand, and 260 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 7: it certainly did quickly. Kenny in terms of him setting 261 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 7: the trap at the end of the fight. Just a 262 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 7: nice sequence to choke Bisping unconscious ultimately, and I think 263 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 7: for a lot of guys maybe they don't have that 264 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 7: in their repertoire, right, the ability to set Bisping up. 265 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 7: He set him up on the feet obviously when he 266 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 7: attacked that right side. But just talk us through a 267 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 7: little bit George Saint Pierre's fight IQ and his ability 268 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 7: to set the trap that ultimately ended that ultimately led 269 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 7: to the finish of the fight. 270 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: George is a highly intelligent fighter. This is a guy 271 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: who really, for the majority of his career was responsible 272 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: for putting together all the pieces of his mixed martial 273 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: arts game. He would go and train, you know, and 274 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: just wrestling. He would go and train and strictly jiu jitsu, 275 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: would go and train in moy Thai or karate, and it. 276 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 6: Was up to him to put it all together. 277 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 8: You know. 278 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: Of course, far Ross started to help him later on 279 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: in his career, but George did a lot of that 280 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: on his own. It was just his ability to think 281 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: things through, to adapt, to deal with injuries during a 282 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: fight like we saw against Thiago Alves when he tore 283 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 1: his adductor, or he was. 284 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 6: Going in with a knee injury or whatever it was. 285 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: This is just a smart fighter who knows how to 286 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: look for things in his opponent. And that's what happens 287 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: when you're that well rounded and that strong and that 288 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: fast and have that anaerobic capacity, like a George Saint Pierre, 289 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: you could do whatever the hell you want in there. 290 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: And you know what he told Mike, He's I'm gonna 291 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: do whatever I want against you, and you know what, 292 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: that's exactly what he did. It wasn't just a George 293 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: Saint Pierre panicking for a takedown. He was extremely patient. 294 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: He struck when he wanted to strike, He wrestled when 295 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: he wanted to wrestle, and he submitted when he wanted 296 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: to submit, and I was just blown away by the performance. 297 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: This was a George Saint Pierre who was smart about 298 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: getting him away from the fence. He never let Michael 299 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: Bisback put his back to the cage where he could 300 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: stand up and be safe. George was aware of that. 301 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: He brought him away from the cage, got that space 302 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: and took the back immediately. Just beautiful stuff there from GSP. 303 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 7: And I guess George didn't know how cold blooded he 304 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 7: was being when he said in his post fight interview 305 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 7: with Joe Rogan that he targeted Bisbing's right side. Of 306 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 7: course you did, George, right. I mean you can barely 307 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 7: see out of that right eye. And that brings us 308 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 7: to Michael Bisman. Kenny guy is just a total fucking inspiration. 309 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 7: I don't know that I've ever been more inspired by 310 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 7: a professional athlete in my life. You know, I was 311 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 7: Octagon's side for what he did against Anderson Silva. I've 312 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 7: said it on these airwaves and anywhere else I can 313 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 7: that the last thing this guy is ever looking for 314 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 7: is a way out when the going gets tough. I 315 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 7: know it sounds tripe, but when that happens, right give 316 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 7: me Michael Bisping every day of the week, right, Like 317 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 7: we go on these national radio shows and they say, oh, 318 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 7: if you had to go into a street fight with 319 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 7: three UFC fighters, you know, it's like, yeah, I want 320 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 7: Tim Kennedy to okay, But like, give me this guy. 321 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 7: Man just built ford tough and I just really I 322 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 7: gain respect for him every time. You know, he helps 323 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 7: build a big fight week with his mouth or fights 324 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 7: a guy like George s Pierre And even though he 325 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 7: came up short Kenny, there were windows for him in 326 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 7: this fight. Just a lot of respect here on Monday 327 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 7: morning for Michael Bisping as well. 328 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: Michael Bisping absolutely is a warrior. You know, it's in 329 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: his blood. His dad was in the military in the UK. 330 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: This is a guy who was born to do what 331 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: he does. He's as tough as they come. He's an 332 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: excellent fighter. I thought he did extremely well against George 333 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: Saint Pierre, a guy who will go down as one 334 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: of the greatest, if not the greatest UFC fighter of 335 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: all time. So for me watching this fight against Michael Bisming, again, 336 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: he proved his toughness, he proved his ability to adapt, 337 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: not a whole lot of guys are getting it to 338 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: their feet against someone like George Saint Pierre, and Michael 339 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: was able to do that a few times, and it 340 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: looked like he didn't miss a step. It looked like 341 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: he didn't slow down at all or get down on himself. 342 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: And I think that's what makes Michael Bisping so great. 343 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: This guy is fearless, he believes in himself. He's inspired 344 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: me as a fighter for a very long time. He 345 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: has faced the best of the best, even the guys 346 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: that defeated him, you know, you can question, you know, 347 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: maybe some of the stuff that they were using outside 348 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: of the octagon. So Michael will go down as a 349 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: legend as well. And for me, I would much rather 350 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: see him lose against someone like a George Saint Pierre 351 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: than someone like Robert Whitaker, no offense of Robert Whitaker, 352 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: who's an excellent fighter, but certainly doesn't have the resume 353 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: of a George Saint Pierre. So going out or losing 354 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: against someone like George Saint Pierre, listen, not a big 355 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: deal for me. 356 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 6: Michael Bisping is still one of the greatest to ever 357 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 6: do it. 358 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 7: And we will table that whole greatest of all time conversation, 359 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 7: because I know a lot of our listeners don't love 360 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 7: when we speak in absolutes. Even you push out of 361 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 7: tweet saying that had to be the greatest night in 362 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 7: UFC history, people tend to get irritated about that. So 363 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 7: at some point we will try to put into context 364 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 7: what George Saint Pierre has been able to do. I 365 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 7: do think when it comes to the goat talk, though, 366 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 7: you have all these guys who are in consideration still fighting, 367 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 7: so ten years, it's going to be a very fun 368 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 7: conversation to have. As for where George Saint Pierre goes 369 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 7: from here, Kenny, you know he did say in his 370 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 7: postfight interview with Joe Rogan, please show the replay because 371 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 7: I don't remember the fight, and I think there were 372 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 7: a lot of factors that led to this four year layoff, 373 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 7: but he did absorb some punishment in those final three 374 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 7: fights back in twenty twelve twenty thirteen before he stepped 375 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 7: away for this four year hiatus. What do you think 376 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 7: the future is for George Saint Pierre and do you 377 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 7: think his next fight will be in defense of this 378 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 7: UFC Midway title. 379 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: Well, I think that for George, I wouldn't be surprised 380 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: if this is his last fight. 381 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 6: I mean, does it get any better than this? 382 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: What is he going to accomplish here that that's going 383 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: to elevate his status that much more? Does he need 384 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: to defeat the two hundred and five pound or maybe 385 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: fights deep It's those aren't realistic things. Okay, Even going 386 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: up to twenty five, everybody doubted him, you know, everyone said, oh, 387 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: this is going to be too much. You know, Michael 388 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: Bisping has been more active, he's a bigger guy. 389 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 6: This and that. I don't know if it gets better 390 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 6: than this. 391 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: I think there was something that George wanted to prove 392 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: to himself. I really don't think as much as you know, 393 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: George wanted to get what he felt he deserved. But 394 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: I don't think it was necessarily about the money. This 395 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: wasn't a George Saint Pierre is like, man, my bank 396 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: account's low, I really need to get some funds here. 397 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 6: It wasn't about that. Did George is fine on money, 398 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 6: believe me. 399 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: I think more than anything else, though, I think he 400 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: had something he needed to prove to himself. Being away 401 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: for four years, I felt like he finished his career 402 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: on top and wanted to come back and show everybody. Listen, 403 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: in these days where USADA is kind of overlooking the sport. 404 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: I want to come back and show what I can 405 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: really do. And you know, at one hundred and seventy pounds, 406 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 1: he has already done it all. He wanted to do 407 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: something different at one hundred and eighty five pounds and 408 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: challenge himself. He did that against a phenomenal champion and 409 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: Michael Bisping, and I think this is probably his last 410 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: fight now. 411 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 6: Can he fight? Absolutely, he proved it. 412 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: This is still a George Pierre who can do it 413 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: all and do it all at a very high level. 414 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: He's one of the best competitors I've ever seen in 415 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: all the professional sports. And if he can, if he 416 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: wants to continue to fight, I think he can beat 417 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: a Robert Whittaker. I think maybe there's a fight against 418 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: Tyron Woodley if he wanted to. Obviously there's that Connor 419 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: McGregor guy who might make things interesting. But I know 420 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: for George, he doesn't really want to go down in 421 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: weight too much. 422 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 6: I feel like he's already done it all. 423 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,239 Speaker 1: He feels like he's already done it all at one 424 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy pounds, and he did it in an 425 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: age where the welthweight division was just ridiculous, and I 426 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: think going down against one hundred and fifty five pounds, 427 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if he really feels Connor McGregor is 428 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: a challenge, to be honest, going against a much smaller 429 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: guy and having the takedown skills that he has. I mean, 430 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: he's gone against a lot of other great strikers in 431 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: his career, and I don't think Connor McGregor is gonna 432 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: be big enough or has the wrestling prowess to stop 433 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: the takedowns of a George Saint Pierre. 434 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 7: Right, well, Saturday night certainly wasn't going to be the 435 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 7: time to retire right in the octagon or at the 436 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 7: postfight press conference, which by the way, he wasn't even 437 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 7: able to attend because he had to go to the hospital. 438 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 7: But this was all about his mixed martial arts legacy, right, 439 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 7: This wasn't about money, And you're right, Kenny, there's really 440 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 7: nothing else that could top what he accomplished at Madison 441 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 7: Square Garden this night. We're gonna keep pinging and ponging 442 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 7: and getting back to this topic. But I do believe 443 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 7: I can all but guarantee you that George Saint Pierre's 444 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 7: next opponent, if there is one in the UFC, will 445 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 7: come from this list of forenames, Robert Whittaker, Tyron Woodley, 446 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 7: Connor McGregor, or Anderson Silva almost assurely back to that 447 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 7: conversation throughout the show, of course, but now with us 448 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 7: on the guest line. 449 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 8: One of my best friends in the world. Actually Kenny 450 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 8: likes him too. 451 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 7: Former UFC colleague broadcast partner, now the COO of First 452 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 7: Key Holmes LLC, also studying towards his executive NBA. 453 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 8: It sounds like fun. 454 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 7: Northwestern's Kellogg School of Management's Miami location. The greatest living 455 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 7: American Philadelphia Eagles fan, Brian Stan is with us. B 456 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 7: Stan the pleasure all on this side of the table. 457 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 5: What's up there? 458 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: What's unseellos man, it's so nice to talk to you. Guys. 459 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 7: Had to go on goddamn LinkedIn today to find out 460 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 7: it was First Key Homes LLC. 461 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 8: So you know we had. 462 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 7: You booked before UFC two seventeen turned into one of 463 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 7: the more epic pay per views in UFC history, And 464 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 7: I got to think for you just a few months 465 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 7: removed from this being your world. A night like this 466 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 7: makes you wish your title was still UFC commentator and 467 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 7: not chief Operations Officer? 468 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 8: Is that what CLO stands for? 469 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 3: Chief Operating Officer? Yes, but you know this was the 470 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: card that I knew I was supposed to call, and 471 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 3: it was going to be the second time that you, 472 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 3: Joe Rogan, and I were going to be able to 473 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 3: work together, which was an exciting crew to work with. 474 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: So certainly was one that I knew when I watched 475 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 3: this car man, knowing I would have been there been 476 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 3: at Mess where Garden called this. Certainly some nostalgia involved, 477 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 3: but I had a lot of fun watching with family 478 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: and friends, and you know, my hair was blown back 479 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 3: just like it was for you guys. And I think 480 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 3: this is an important night for this sport. You know this, 481 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 3: This has not been the best year for us, and 482 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 3: for some reason, because our sport isn't as mature, we 483 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 3: just seem with casual fans be only as good as 484 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 3: our last car. We needed this kind of momentum to 485 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: try and close this year strong. 486 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 7: So in terms and you're right on all of that stuff. 487 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 7: In terms of George Saint Pierre and his legacy. You 488 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 7: probably heard a little bit of what we were saying 489 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 7: there on the back end. Not sure he could have 490 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 7: done more to fill this hole. You know, he wanted 491 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 7: to add to his legacy. He did that. Your overall 492 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 7: thoughts on George Saint Pierre in the fight and ultimately 493 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 7: where he might go from here, man, I mean. 494 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 3: I think it's incredible what he was able to do, 495 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: and that's a tremendous layoff, And there is a huge difference. 496 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 3: I don't care what kind of shape you get into 497 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 3: in the gym and training camp. I don't care what 498 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 3: you know. If you have the money to get everything measured, 499 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 3: you know what your resting heart rate is, I don't care. 500 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: It's all different when you're actually in that aftergon on 501 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 3: fight night, the bright lights, the anxiety, the nerves which 502 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: GSP he suffers from some of the worst anxiety I've 503 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 3: ever seen in the sport, which makes what he does 504 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: even more special. I thought he was fantastic. I thought 505 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 3: he was technically very good. I mean, he did obviously 506 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 3: slowed down, which was expected. It looked like Michael Bisbay 507 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 3: was taking over that fight. But GSP finds a way 508 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: to do it. You know, it's not that he did 509 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: anything that was completely different than what we've seen before 510 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 3: in his career. The fact that he was able to 511 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 3: come and fight at that level after four years on 512 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 3: the bench is absolutely astounding to me. I've long thought 513 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 3: he's the best to ever do it. I've transitioned recently 514 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 3: to Demitrice Johnson. Now with ESP coming back and doing that, 515 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 3: you know, I'm gotta say GSP is the best ever. 516 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 6: You know, Brian? 517 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: For me, I saw him slow down a little bit, 518 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: but it's a professional fight, isn't Its one hundred and 519 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: eighty five pounds. This guy was keeping a crazy pace 520 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: with the striking, his wrestling. He's dealing on one hundred 521 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: and eighty five pounds. To me, I didn't see it 522 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: as such a big deal of him slowing down. 523 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 6: But you know, where would you put him in the conversation? 524 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 1: So you have him as as greater than Demetrius John's 525 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: right now the best power for pound fighter you've ever seen. 526 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: I do I do he is? I mean when he 527 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 3: to come back after four years under Mansion, when the 528 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: middleweight crown and can you bring up a great point? 529 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 3: He was yet to put this like there's gonna be 530 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 3: an action. He was slowing down against Michael Bisbee, right, 531 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 3: and that matters. It's not like he was slowing down 532 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 3: against Jolo Maro or slowing down against their regular middleweight. 533 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 3: Michael Bisbee's cardio and his conditioning are an absolute weapon, 534 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: and he can put a pace on you like none other, 535 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 3: and he's executing your game plan. So GSP was slowing 536 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 3: down compared to the pace one of the highest pace 537 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: fighters we've ever seen in the UFC. So I think 538 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 3: that's very important to say. Yes, when you look at 539 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 3: who he's beaten, how long he's been dominant. To come 540 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 3: back now at this age, four years on the bench 541 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 3: and win a weight you know, win a belt a 542 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: weight class above, that's a big jump. That's a fifteen 543 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 3: pound different. This isn't boxing, right, This isn't boxing where 544 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 3: the weight class is five pounds higher. You know, he 545 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 3: went from fighting guys that are walking around at one 546 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: ninety one eighty five to now fighting a guy who 547 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 3: walked around to two twenty five and Michael Bisbeck. That's 548 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: a tremendous jump. 549 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really was, man, There was definitely a lot 550 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: of risk involved with what George Saint Pierre did now 551 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: do you want to see him fight again? And if 552 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: you do, who would you like to see him fight next. 553 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 3: I don't want to see him fight again. Personally, I 554 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: never want to see him fight again. I think everything 555 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 3: he's done is great. I just I don't want any 556 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 3: any long term health risks for George S. Pierre. One 557 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: thing I'll add to the reason why I'm choosing him now, 558 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 3: he predominantly you know, he knocked Michael down with striking. 559 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 3: A lot of that fight was on the feet. He 560 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 3: did his most damage on the ground. He smitted him 561 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 3: on the ground, but Mike was able to get up 562 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: after the downs. You know, we've seen, you know, for 563 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 3: GSP to do that to Mike on the feet, a 564 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 3: lot of people saw him winning with a boring lay 565 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 3: in prey control him on the ground style. That's not 566 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 3: what happened in this fight, which was even more impressive 567 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 3: for me. But if he were to fight again, I 568 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 3: want to see the Robert Whitaker fight. I think that 569 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 3: that's the fight that intrigues me the most. I think 570 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: that will be the most fun to watch for the fans. 571 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: And I'd also then take the Tyron Woody fight. I 572 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 3: think he's just too big for for Connor. Connor, of course, 573 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 3: will take the fight. He doesn't care. 574 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 6: Uh. 575 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 3: You know, Connor will fight a heavyweight if he get 576 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 3: the kid the opportunity. But man, I mean GSP is 577 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 3: a big guy. Now, he's not a legitimatedly, but he's 578 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: getting pretty close. 579 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 7: Former UFC commentator Brian stand with us on the Anak 580 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 7: and Florian podcast. 581 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 8: Still don't like the way that sounds. 582 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 7: So thug Rose nama Unis goes in and gets Yohanna 583 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 7: youm J check out of there in the first round. 584 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 7: And I texted Kenny Brian, you know here is Joanna 585 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 7: youm J check right. I mean, despite the fact that 586 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 7: she talked a world of stuff about Rose leading up 587 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 7: to this fight, you know, she felt like she was 588 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 7: the much better fighter she walked to that octagon. I 589 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 7: don't know if she felt like Rose deserved to be 590 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 7: there with her. She probably did, right, But it's almost 591 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 7: comparable to Ronda Rousey in some respects. 592 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 8: It's like walking back into your new life. 593 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 9: Right. 594 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 7: You're undefeated, you are ubiquitously regarded as the best women's 595 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 7: mixed martial arts fighter of all time, and then all 596 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 7: of a sudden no, you don't tie or break the record. 597 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 7: You go back to your hotel room. You're not undefeated, 598 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 7: no belt. There's gonna be a very difficult pill to swallow. 599 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 7: I would think, I guess if anyone can do it, 600 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 7: maybe it's her. 601 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 8: I don't know. 602 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, that's this sport. It's the reason why we 603 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 3: all love it, the unpredictability of it. You know, it's 604 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: crazy how karma treats you and mixed martial arts because 605 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 3: you have to be supremely confident to be successful in 606 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 3: that octagon. But there's a tipping point. I don't know 607 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 3: if you want to reach her. And anytime I've met 608 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 3: her air active with her, she's been nothing less than 609 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 3: a wonderful person, absolutely wonderful to work with, always made time, 610 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 3: she was a true professional. She does her thing because 611 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 3: she wants to make her opponent doubt themselves. It's a 612 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 3: very you know, Michael Bisbey does the same thing. You 613 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 3: want to plant the seeds of doubt because if you 614 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 3: plant them and they start to grow, that person will 615 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 3: not fight to the best of their abilities. It didn't 616 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 3: work on rows, right, but that's what you want. I 617 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: was trying to do. But there is you know, when 618 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 3: you get to that level of confidence to where you 619 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 3: can become dominant, there's a point where you can go 620 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 3: too far and you could walk in that octagon and 621 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 3: I would find in fights where I wasn't nervous at all, 622 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 3: which I had a lot that were like that. But 623 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 3: when I wasn't nervous and I had no fear or 624 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 3: anxiety in me, I didn't fight as well. I didn't 625 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 3: have this edge, you know, I didn't have that survival 626 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 3: instinct to fight with everything I had or throw every 627 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 3: strike as hard as I wanted to, or I wasn't 628 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 3: as primal as what I'm trying to say. And I 629 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 3: think that she that may have been something that got 630 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 3: to her, you know, it may have to say. Look, 631 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 3: it could have just been technical. Rose has got a 632 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 3: tricky style, and DC referenced it. I've referenced it, having 633 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 3: called a lot of Roses fights. Trevor Whitman's style is 634 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 3: very technical and it takes time to master. Rose has 635 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 3: been there for a long time now, and I thought 636 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 3: you did a really good job fighting at range and 637 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 3: not standing in front of Yoanna to where Yoanna could 638 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 3: use more of that multi based approach where if you 639 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 3: stand in front of her, She's going to rattle off 640 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 3: combo after combo. Rosesn't stand in front of you and 641 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: really attack your well at distance. 642 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 7: You see how we're still cheating off your notes though. 643 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,479 Speaker 7: I told DC that during rehearsal that Trevor Whitman's striking 644 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 7: style takes a long time to develop and its defensive 645 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 7: oriented at the beginning, and we're see so as it 646 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 7: was still in your notes. This is kind of great 647 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 7: that your god, we could just cheat off of all 648 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 7: your stuff. So we haven't even talked about TJ Dillishaw 649 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 7: and Cody Garbrandt yet, Bride, because we're taking you close 650 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 7: to the top of the show. So I was going 651 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 7: to ask you which champion you think is more likely 652 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 7: to get their belt back? You want to give J 653 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 7: Check or Cody Garbrandt. We haven't even touched on Cody TJ, 654 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 7: So I guess we'll start with that. Your thoughts on 655 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 7: the fight as long as it lasts, and ultimately where 656 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 7: those guys will now go moving forward. 657 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, man, I thought it was a 658 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 3: phenomenal fight. It was. You know, those are both really 659 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 3: high level athletes. Cody is is one of the quickest 660 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 3: guys on the entire UFC roster. When you break down 661 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: his tape and watch every single fight, Man is he quick. 662 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: He's a phenomenal athlete, as is TJ. And TJ and 663 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 3: him have both gotten so technical. Bit TJ and you 664 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 3: guys referenced it on the call. TJ, striking wise, just 665 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 3: has a couple more weapons, right, He's got a bit 666 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 3: more variety to his attack, and I think that made 667 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 3: a difference. The biggest thing that impressed me in the 668 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 3: most and this happens in our sport. It's why people 669 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 3: fall him over it. TJ's ability to recompose himself the 670 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 3: kind you could see him nodding, you know, in registering 671 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 3: with his coach Bang Ludwig, getting himself back in the 672 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 3: fight after he was rocked badly. When you get rocked 673 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: against Cody, Cody's a killer. He'll go out there, he 674 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 3: will take you out. I was really impressed with that, 675 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 3: and I think I think that's a fight We're going 676 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 3: to see it. Obviously. I think Cody will challenge for 677 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 3: the title again, but I don't think it'll be right away. 678 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 3: Right The dandamweight division has become very, very interesting and 679 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 3: it's no gimmea unreal For Domina Cruz taken on. 680 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 7: Jimmior River, Oh, thirty five is awesome, right, I mean 681 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 7: you got Marlon Meris and John Dodson fighting on the 682 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 7: prelims this weekend, and Merice came in having won thirteen 683 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 7: in a row. He's staring at er and two in 684 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 7: the UFC if he can't get by Dodson and no 685 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 7: one's talking about those guys. 686 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, on and on. Ito's at thirty five. 687 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 7: So for Cody garbrand it's hard not to be impressed 688 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 7: with the physical tools and some of the natural gifts 689 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 7: that have been honed under his uncle Robert Meaes for 690 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 7: years and years. Handspeed just off the charts. Which champion 691 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 7: is more likely to get their belt back Cody garbrandt 692 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 7: in the shark infested waters at thirty five or you 693 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 7: want to im j. 694 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 3: Chick Ooh that's a really good question. 695 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 8: See yo, wanta might get an immediate I wouldn't you know? 696 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 5: I would. 697 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: I would, And this is going to be a little 698 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: wild that I would. Honestly, I would say Cody. And 699 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 3: here's why, because one thirty five, all of those guys 700 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: who we saw how badly. He rocked TJ. Right, all 701 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 3: those guys can beat each other, you know, Dominic b 702 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 3: TJ so close that TJ could have won that night 703 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 3: as well. So I think there's going to be some 704 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 3: round robin in that weight division. I am wondering with 705 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 3: Rose non unis. Rose is far from a finished product. 706 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 3: Rose is still very much improving and getting better, and 707 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 3: in her style. Sometimes certain fighters have a style that 708 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 3: is just kryptonite to the opposition to one style opponent, 709 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 3: and Rose's style, her footwork, in her grappling, in her 710 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 3: style may just be very challenging for Yoana, And now 711 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 3: that she already knocked her out once like that, the 712 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 3: confidence and how that changes will be very interesting to 713 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 3: watch going forward. 714 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 7: All right, A couple of rapid fire questions here with 715 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 7: Brian Stan on the way out, Anthony Pettis, Dustin Pourier 716 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 7: this weekend main event in Norfolk, Virginia. Forced to pick 717 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 7: a winner to save a dog's life or Pettis. 718 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 8: Pettis Anthony favorite. 719 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 3: Right now, the tough one. I think if Toye toy 720 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 3: Is got to make this an inside fight and you're 721 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 3: boxing as much as possible, don't don't stay a distance, 722 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 3: and do not take as good as Poie is on 723 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 3: the ground, because he is very good. Don't take Anthony 724 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,719 Speaker 3: Pedtis down in the middle of the opticon. If you're 725 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 3: going to do it, take him down against the fence 726 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 3: and keep him there. Don't give him the room to 727 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 3: move his hips because he catches a lot of guys 728 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 3: off guard. 729 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 7: All right, over under four and a half. Bud lights 730 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 7: for you at UFC two seventeen. All under under, Yeah, 731 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 7: I fucking hate budd l like we're going Scotch or 732 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 7: you just kind of laying low or what you know? 733 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 3: You know I was I was doing. I went with 734 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 3: a paper, I was going, all right, Scotch. I had 735 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 3: a busy I had a bunch of stuff going on. Sunday 736 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: an switch As long as stay lights, savings man Savannah, 737 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: my youngest was on my chest by six a m. 738 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 6: As long as monster energies weren't involved. 739 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 3: Uh Brian's they said they were prior to really trying 740 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 3: to cut that. But honestly, this this new civilian job, 741 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 3: you know, this new real world stuff. I'm in the 742 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 3: office Pritish sevenary and seven piant nights. The monsters are 743 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 3: still flowing. 744 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 7: And I do know yingling because I went to Getty's 745 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 7: per College in Pennsylvania, where you had no choice to 746 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 7: drink that stuff. All right, last, but not least, As 747 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 7: of today, November sixth, who is favored to win the 748 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 7: Super Bowl? 749 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 8: So I think they are. I thought they were too. 750 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 7: We talked about this off the air, so I went 751 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 7: and checked the only online sports book I could find. 752 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 7: A super Bowl future on today had the Eagles at 753 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 7: six to one and the New England Patriots at four 754 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 7: to one as as the super Bowl favorite. So I 755 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 7: immediately got in touch with someone in Vegas, and I'm 756 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 7: shopping a price for the Philadelphia Eagles. I think they're 757 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 7: going to run the table if they stay healthy, my man, 758 00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 7: I really do. 759 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 3: Now I'm still look. I mean, we've got the Cowboys 760 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: in two weeks, and they're a tough team, and if 761 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 3: Elliott doesn't get suspended, that's gonna be a really tough 762 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 3: That's gonna be a tough matchup first, so they'll see. 763 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 3: Fans are pretty used to getting disappointed, and nobody could 764 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 3: feel confident. I don't care until Tom Brady is dead. 765 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 3: Nobody is gonna feel confident about winning a Super Bowl 766 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 3: until the head take comes, and I mean he's just 767 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 3: he just continues to be excellent. And it's the privilege 768 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 3: to watch that dynasty continue to play some years. You know, 769 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of excellence. But if anybody can 770 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 3: do it, this kid, Carson Wentz and that crew that 771 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 3: defense we got as well, Hey, they can get it done. 772 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 3: So I'm a believer. I'll be wearing my Carson Wentz 773 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 3: jersey in two weeks. 774 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 7: You compare it, oh, man, I know you will, all right, 775 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 7: Brian Stan, pleasure to hear your voice as always, buddy. 776 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 8: We'll let you get back to it. 777 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 7: Man, I guess when you're the coo, I guess you 778 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 7: could break away for fifteen minutes to talk a little 779 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 7: mixed martial arts. 780 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 8: So thank you for your time. 781 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 7: You know you got an open door, dude, you want 782 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 7: a monthly segment you need, man, thank you for the time. 783 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 8: We'll talk to you soon, all. 784 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 3: Right, I mean I love it. So it's great to 785 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 3: hear from you. Have a great day. 786 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 6: Thanks Dan. 787 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 7: All right, Brian's staying with us here on the Anakin 788 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 7: Florian Podcast. So I think we are going to connect 789 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 7: with thug Rosanama units here flow in a couple of minutes. 790 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 7: But while we're waiting to do that, Cody Garbrandt and TJ. 791 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 7: Dillashaw and I know you texted me it was an 792 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 7: emotional fight beforehand, and you thought largely it played out 793 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 7: with some emotions as well, and you think that was 794 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 7: sort of a big factor in ultimately how this one 795 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 7: played out. 796 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 6: Yes, a little bit, yeah, actually on both sides. 797 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: Because I felt that Dyla Shaw shouldn't have gone into 798 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 1: the pocket against someone like Cody garbrd That's where I 799 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: thought he was going to lose. 800 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 6: Now he got caught. 801 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: Initially, he got dropped in the first round by going 802 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: into the pocket. He kept trying to get in there, 803 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 1: and I said, jeez, it's only a matter of time 804 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: because I thought Cody was the harder puncher, you know. 805 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: And in the end he went right back into the pocket. 806 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: He actually spoke with us in the post fight show 807 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,959 Speaker 1: and said, you know, that was something that we worked 808 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: on not doing. I did it anyway. I took the risk. 809 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: I ended up landing first, So props to him for 810 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: having that courage to getting in there. But again, he 811 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: kind of showed his emotions in there. That was a 812 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 1: risky gamble against someone like a Cody Garbrett. Now, when 813 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: Cody went in there and got dropped with that kick 814 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: in round two, first of all, he should have been 815 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: ready for it. He should have done his homework. That's 816 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: one of Cody, that's one of TJ. Dillashaw, sorry, patented techniques. 817 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: He looks like he's gonna do a leg kick, he 818 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: drops his head down, goes upstairs with his kick. Cody 819 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: was holding his hand a little bit too low for 820 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: my liking and got caught with it. And then after 821 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: he got hit with that shot, it was like, you know, 822 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: he looked way too pissed off. Now, that kind of 823 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: worked against Dominic, but he was more composed against someone 824 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 1: like Domina Cruz, And when he got dropped, I felt 825 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: like he was chasing the knockout and not letting it 826 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: happen organically, And. 827 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 6: I think that was the issue there. 828 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 7: All right, back to that in a second, but I Lee, 829 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 7: I believe right now on the guest line, we have 830 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,959 Speaker 7: the new undisputed UFC Drawway Champion of the World. Thug Rose, 831 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 7: nomma unis Rose, John and Kenny here. Can you hear us? Yeah, 832 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 7: Thug Rose, congratulations on the UFC Championship. But I don't 833 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 7: know how many people know what the last six months 834 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 7: have held for you, essentially being in one elongated training 835 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 7: camp helping Valentina Chevchenko and you finished this half year 836 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 7: off by handing you want to you j check her 837 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 7: first loss, you become a UFC champion. Have you felt 838 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 7: the love from the M M A world? Because I 839 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 7: just think collectively we're all so happy for you. 840 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely lots of love that like being felt the 841 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 9: whole week. Uh, definitely lots of things that you know, 842 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 9: h distraction, trying to you know, throw me off of that. 843 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 9: But I you know, I focused on the love. I 844 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 9: focus on the positivity. That's what's got me through it. 845 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 9: So I appreciate that from everybody. You know that uh 846 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 9: the uh you know, just try to send to live 847 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 9: my way. 848 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 7: You know, we were saying on the broadcast that it 849 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 7: was you and not her who came in as the 850 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 7: most prolific finisher in UFC strawweight history. Right, she had 851 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 7: got I think a couple hours at least in her 852 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 7: last four title defenses without putting somebody away. So did 853 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 7: you feel as confident as you looked in your striking 854 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 7: and your development on the feet? In terms of this 855 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 7: fight and what you might be able to accomplish. 856 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of. 857 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 9: Course there's you know, self doubt that always creeps in. 858 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 9: But I've really started to master you know, everything that 859 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 9: that my coaches have been, you know, building me from 860 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 9: the ground up since I lost the belt or since 861 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 9: I lost my first title fight, and you know it's 862 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 9: really this camp and a big part of it, you know, 863 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 9: just this last little step to fight, you want to 864 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 9: like training with Valentina and her helped a lot, uh, 865 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 9: just in my confidence and being able to because I 866 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 9: training with her, it wasn't about me, it was helping her, 867 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 9: and so I had to do a lot of things 868 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 9: that weren't in my the way that we do things, 869 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 9: and so a lot of it was just like stand 870 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 9: there and absorb you know, these like these bullets. You know, 871 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 9: as a matter of fact, I have a I have 872 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 9: a scar on my hip from uh from one of 873 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 9: her spins side kicks to this day. You know, just uh, 874 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 9: I got shot with the bullet. You know, That's why 875 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 9: I call it that my bullet wound. And it's just 876 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 9: it's just helped me so much. And then you know, 877 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 9: after after those camps were over, then you know, we 878 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 9: focused on me and we focused. Okay, all that grind 879 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 9: is over with now that we have to fight with Youohanna, 880 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 9: let's let's focus on doing what we do, you know, 881 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 9: and and making sure that I'm technically sharp not just tough, 882 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 9: you know. And uh yeah, everything obviously paid off. 883 00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 6: Rose. 884 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: It was amazing what you did inside the octagon, both 885 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: during the fight and in the post fight speech. You know, 886 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: I love I love what you said about showing respect 887 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: and showing the humility of a martial artist. Do you 888 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: feel like you can kind of change the momentum here 889 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: a little bit as the champion now, because obviously we've 890 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: been seeing a lot of trash talking, a lot of 891 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 1: this kind of negativity out there in order to get fights. 892 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: You haven't done that, You've never really been that person. 893 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you can kind of change the 894 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: momentum here? 895 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's my plan, that's my goal. I want to 896 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,720 Speaker 9: bring some light, you know, in the world, just because 897 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 9: it seems like such a dark light sometimes, but it's 898 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 9: it's such a beautiful life, and I think that we 899 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 9: need a little bit more of that, especially as you 900 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 9: know martial artists. I mean, I don't I don't view 901 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 9: myself as just a fighter. You know obviously that that 902 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 9: side is in me, you know, if i'm you know, 903 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 9: you know, eventually, the after all the build up and 904 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 9: all that stuff, you know, eventually when we got pushed 905 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 9: it put in the center of the octagon, I was 906 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 9: like I had enough, you know, and then I finally snapped, 907 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 9: And obviously that's what happened. But uh, you know, knock 908 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 9: there out. But I don't know, I fear it was saying, yeah, 909 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 9: basically I want to I do want to try and 910 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 9: just be the do the best that I can to 911 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,959 Speaker 9: inspire others to just be nicer to each other because 912 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 9: life of hard as it is. 913 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: You know, well, it's extremely refreshing to hear you say 914 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: that at twenty five years old. Now, I know it's 915 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: still I know it's still early, but Y wanna you 916 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: beat you wanna in the first round in a very 917 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: dominant fashion. Obviously we have Claudia Gadelia who just lost 918 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: to Jessica Androge. 919 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 6: Who do you think is more deserving? Do you know 920 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 6: what direction you're gonna go? 921 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 4: It? 922 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: Would it be onrage over you wanna at this point? 923 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 1: Or is you wanted deserving because of everything she did 924 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: in the division. 925 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 9: I have no idea at this point. I haven't really 926 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 9: even thought about it. I'm still trying to I forgot 927 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 9: this morning that we had the fight, you know what 928 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 9: I mean, Like I woke up this morning like in 929 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 9: the mindset of okay, time to go to practice. Oh yeah, no, 930 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 9: you know what I mean, Like we didn't. We already came. 931 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 3: Back from New York, you know what I mean. 932 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 9: We're home, so time to relax, time to decompress, and 933 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 9: then eventually, you know, we need to sit down with 934 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 9: all of the team and really just process what happened 935 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 9: as a team, and then how are we going to 936 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 9: approach this thing going forward. 937 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 7: UFC strawweight Champion Rose Nama units joining us here on 938 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 7: the Anakin Floran Podcast. 939 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:33,479 Speaker 8: It sounds good, Rose. 940 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 7: So I know I touched off off the top about 941 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 7: the love from the MMA masses for you, but for 942 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 7: your family and your friends and your teammates, right, I mean, 943 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 7: we were on the bus and I know you, I 944 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 7: think you were facetiming with your mom in the back, 945 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 7: and for Pat Barry of course, and Trevor, and I 946 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 7: mean for this whole team. Can you effectively put into 947 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 7: words what it is like to reward their hard work 948 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 7: as well with a UFC championship at twenty five years old. 949 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, geez, you know, Trevor is such an 950 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 9: experienced coach in this game, and uh, to see him 951 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 9: and he's accomplished a lot, you know, and even I 952 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 9: think maybe you know, more, way more than he gets 953 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 9: credit for. And so for this, I feel like this 954 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 9: is like the moment the achievement that I think, you know, 955 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 9: is really gratifying or should be gratifying for him, and uh, 956 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 9: something that I've you know, this dude works so hard 957 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 9: and and you know, sacrifices so much for us as athletes, 958 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 9: and it's not about him, you know. So it's like, 959 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 9: you know, I want to give back in that way. 960 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 9: And Tony the same thing. You know, got five kids 961 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 9: like crazy, you know, family like uh, and so you 962 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 9: know I want to I want to you know, make 963 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 9: their lives more any more comfortable that I can possibly do. 964 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 9: And then you know, pad of course he's he's pretty 965 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 9: much he's put his career aside for me, you know 966 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 9: what I mean, Like he wants to get in there 967 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 9: every day and fight, you know, he really wants to 968 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 9: fight again. But like you know, he knows that, but 969 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 9: this is what he loves to do too, you know, 970 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 9: he loves he loves the you know, this is what 971 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 9: he's been wanting to do, you know, as much as 972 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 9: I have to make me the best in the world. 973 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 9: And it's it's it's very satisfying to be able to 974 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 9: give back to them and to three h three, you know, 975 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 9: all the all the ladies that have helped me since 976 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 9: I came here to Colorado, and all the teammates that 977 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 9: I've had since being here, Like, Colorado has been so 978 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 9: good to me, you know, after not having after never 979 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 9: really feeling like I could have a place that I 980 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 9: can call home. This place is amazing, and I'm just 981 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 9: so grateful to be here, you know because even just 982 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,399 Speaker 9: with all the craziness that was going on in New York, 983 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 9: like when we got there with the with the trucks, 984 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 9: you know, and the tragedies and then all the protests, 985 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 9: I was like, and then the marathon the next day, 986 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 9: I was like, really, all I want to do is 987 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 9: just go like be able to just make it home, 988 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:04,919 Speaker 9: you know, That's all I was thinking about. The fight, 989 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 9: like the build up to it, like you know, the Bill, 990 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,840 Speaker 9: like I said that was I really meant that. That's extra. 991 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 9: You know, I wasn't thinking about the outcome. I was 992 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 9: just thinking, as long as I can make it home, happy, 993 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 9: healthy and safe, I'm good. 994 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 7: Well, and you did that, and I think all of 995 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 7: us in life are just rooting for good things to 996 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,919 Speaker 7: happen to good people, and this certainly fits the bill. 997 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 7: You just handled yourself beautifully all week, and I think 998 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 7: maybe the only thing more impressive than the way you 999 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 7: handled yourself during the week was your performance. Fittingly, you 1000 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 7: get the tap at three oh three of round one, 1001 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 7: and very gracious if you have to give us ten 1002 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 7: minutes here on Monday, So get back to the dog, 1003 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 7: your fiance and your life and tell Trevor now we're 1004 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 7: not hitting mits today. Enjoy your time off and hopefully 1005 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 7: we'll catch up. We'll catch up with you before that 1006 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,399 Speaker 7: first title defense. Rose, thank you very much. 1007 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 9: Thank you. 1008 00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, Patty, Yeah, I think that was Pat Barry there 1009 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 8: at the end. 1010 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 9: Yeah, baby, yeah, baby, Pat Barry. 1011 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 8: Hey, thank you guys for making the time. Have a 1012 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 8: good week. 1013 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 7: All right, all right, you two, all right, Doug Rose 1014 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 7: nomin unis Pat Barry with us? I mean, just to 1015 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,800 Speaker 7: be able to congratulate them in person, Kenny. After that 1016 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 7: type of accomplishment, that's what the sports all about. We've 1017 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,280 Speaker 7: talked on this podcast about one of the hardest things 1018 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 7: for us as commentators is if you go to the 1019 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 7: bar after a fight and to greet the losing fighters right, 1020 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,439 Speaker 7: because you just don't know what to say right, whether 1021 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,359 Speaker 7: they've been concussed or lost a tough decision. It's one 1022 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 7: of the trickier navigations for us. On the other side, 1023 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 7: there's nothing better than being able to congratulate a winning 1024 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 7: fighter after a performance like Rose put forth this weekend. 1025 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 7: So pretty fucking incredible, man, I mean what she was 1026 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 7: able to do. Doug Rose is right DC courtesy UFC 1027 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 7: two seventeen pay per view. I mean, Ken Flow. You 1028 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 7: had to look far and wide for people who were 1029 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 7: back in nama Unis in this spot. I know TJ 1030 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 7: had a five dollars free bet online and he put 1031 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 7: it on Rose, but not a lot of people were 1032 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,919 Speaker 7: back in Rose nama Unis in this spot. 1033 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 6: No, they weren't. 1034 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: And when you look at Yoanna Young Jcheck and what 1035 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: she's done in the division, in the way that she's 1036 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: done it, it was hard to see a scenario where 1037 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 1: Rose would be defeating Yo Wanna unless you think maybe 1038 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: they go to the mat and you know, thug Rose 1039 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: able to take the back or whatever. But it was 1040 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,800 Speaker 1: really impressive, and you know what this this seemed like 1041 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 1: this was a Youanna who was forcing a lot of things. 1042 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: You know, when when you look back at it now, 1043 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 1: it seemed like she was going a little bit overboard 1044 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,240 Speaker 1: to promote the fight in a way. She was definitely 1045 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: venturing once again into that bully territory and I think 1046 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: the fans starting to turn on her a little bit. 1047 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if she really liked that. And even 1048 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: during the fight, this was a Yuanna who was very 1049 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: tight and very tense. And we've seen her she's the 1050 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 1: type of fighter that builds momentum over the fight. She's 1051 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: not this really fast starter necessarily because of her footwork, 1052 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 1: because of the way she fires off her machine gun 1053 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 1: type combinations. It takes a little while for her to 1054 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 1: get into that rhythm. 1055 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 6: She was not in that rhythm. She seemed very tight. 1056 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 1: We saw her get caught against Claudia Godelia with the 1057 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 1: big right hand that dropped her before. It was the 1058 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 1: same exact right hand that dropped her here with roseanam Munis. 1059 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,399 Speaker 1: So that's why you're on TV all the time. 1060 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 9: Flow. 1061 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 8: That's great analysis right there. 1062 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 7: And I hadn't necessarily thought about Yo Wanna Young jcheck 1063 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 7: as that rhythmic fighter, but you're absolutely right, and a 1064 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 7: lot of us did feel going in. Claudjahgadelia is an 1065 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 7: exceptional finisher in her own right, but we kind of 1066 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 7: felt like, if Rose is able to stun her on 1067 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 7: the feet or get her to the ground, Rosedamayunis can 1068 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 7: close the show. 1069 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 8: And that's exactly what she did. 1070 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 7: And I think a scary proposition for the other fifteens 1071 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,720 Speaker 7: because she's twenty five years old and has really closed 1072 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,320 Speaker 7: some gaps dating to that UFC debut that she referenced, 1073 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 7: which was December of twenty fourteen, her UFC debut for 1074 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 7: the inaugural Strawway title against Carla Esparza. All right, we 1075 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,800 Speaker 7: are far from finished when it comes to recapping the 1076 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 7: monster that was UFC two seventeen. 1077 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 8: Somebody get Ray Longo on it. 1078 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 4: It's now time for the Ray Longo minutes, and I'm 1079 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 4: going to. 1080 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 6: Push a hole in this fucking such that's what I 1081 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 6: want with the. 1082 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 4: Ray Longo minute During Ray Long the John Nick and 1083 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 4: Kenny Florian podcast. 1084 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, we got longo cell phone number. We called it 1085 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 7: Raymond Peter Good Monday morning to you kid. 1086 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 8: What's going on? 1087 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,399 Speaker 5: Good more man? I go you guys? Are you guys 1088 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 5: still alive after the other night? 1089 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 8: My heart still pounding, I'm telling you, man. 1090 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 7: And I had said after Amanda NOONEZ knocked out Ronda 1091 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 7: Rousey in forty eight seconds that hosting going on and 1092 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 7: doing that UFC two oh seven post fight show was 1093 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,920 Speaker 7: very hard. It was hard to be articulate, art articulate whatever. 1094 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 7: It was hard to complete a sentence right, And we 1095 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 7: sort of felt that, I'm telling you, tough day here 1096 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 7: for me verbally. But we have felt on the broadcast 1097 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 7: that after Rose knocked out Yo Wanna, it's hard to 1098 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 7: sort of reset and be level headed about what was 1099 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 7: still to come. We had to refocus pretty quickly. Just 1100 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 7: just an incredible night top to bottom. 1101 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, right, I mean, I mean all the fights were great. 1102 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,479 Speaker 5: The main card just produced one fight after another, three 1103 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,959 Speaker 5: different title changes is phenomenal. I think it's a great 1104 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,839 Speaker 5: night for the UFC. I mean, they need those rematches 1105 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 5: and some interesting fights come up, some interesting you know 1106 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 5: people will be talking about who should fight who, So 1107 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 5: I think it's a was a real It was a 1108 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,880 Speaker 5: I think they desperately needed that. I don't know if 1109 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 5: they desperately needed it, but man, it's not gonna hurt. 1110 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 5: And I think anybody had talked. They just thought it 1111 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 5: was a phenomenal night of fights. 1112 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,439 Speaker 7: Your initial thoughts on George Saint Pierre's ability to come 1113 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 7: back to the sport after that much time away and 1114 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 7: put forth that type of performance against a qualified middleweight 1115 00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:58,800 Speaker 7: Michael Bisback. 1116 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, look I had Bisbee winning 1117 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,319 Speaker 5: that fight, so, you know, power to George. I think 1118 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 5: he did good. It looked like that night he had 1119 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 5: the perfect dance partner, which you know, again I think 1120 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 5: is given part credit to George making making you look 1121 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,959 Speaker 5: like that. But it's a phenomenal knight for George Saint Pierre. 1122 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,240 Speaker 5: That is not easy to do, to sit on the shelves, 1123 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 5: you know, for a couple of years and then come 1124 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 5: back like that, So man power to him. You know, 1125 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 5: I didn't like the fact that, you know, after the 1126 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 5: fight with the Rogan interview, he didn't you know, he 1127 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 5: he told Joe, I don't I don't you got to 1128 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,360 Speaker 5: explain to me what happened. I don't remember what happened. 1129 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 5: I don't think he took that many shots. So I 1130 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 5: hope he's I hope he's all right in that department. 1131 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 5: Then he was kind of strolling around the octagon at 1132 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 5: the end. I think the the arena might have been 1133 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 5: empty by that point. He was still in this So 1134 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,359 Speaker 5: I hope, I hope on that level, you know, he's 1135 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 5: all right. But a great night for George, and we'll 1136 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 5: see where it goes, see what that takes us in 1137 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 5: the future. It should be interesting. 1138 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm asking everybody this question, I think, but where does 1139 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 1: that put George Saint Pierre in the conversation of pound 1140 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 1: for pound greats? 1141 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 5: Yeah? Look, I think he always was pound for pound 1142 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 5: one of the best fighters ever. I think it just, uh, 1143 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 5: you know, enhances it a little bit, you know what 1144 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 5: I mean. So, uh, you know, I think he did 1145 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 5: clean out the division before he left, right, I mean, 1146 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 5: he fought everybody, So he's right up there, man, without 1147 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 5: a doubt. You know, I don't think this fight, you know, 1148 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 5: was gonna tarnish his legacy at all that way, because 1149 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,359 Speaker 5: I think when he was at one seventy, I don't 1150 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 5: think there's anybody that guy didn't fight, you know what 1151 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 5: I mean. So he was definitely pound for pound one 1152 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 5: of the best then, and he's gonna go down his 1153 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 5: pound for pound one of the best now. So I 1154 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 5: think if anything had just enhanced that, he's you know, 1155 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 5: he's a martial artist, and he was focused and he look, 1156 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 5: he stayed in the gym. You didn't hear this guy 1157 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 5: going out and you know, buying three businesses or opening 1158 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 5: up a restaurant or doing us. He stayed as a 1159 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 5: martial artist. You know, he taught, he he grew as 1160 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,839 Speaker 5: a person, I believe, And I think that's the thing 1161 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 5: that impressed me most with George Saint Pierre is you know, 1162 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 5: like I kind of know him. I'm not going to 1163 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,279 Speaker 5: say I know him well, but I like the guy. 1164 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 5: He's always been a great guy to me, and I 1165 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 5: do know him a little bit. He was comfortable in there. 1166 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,840 Speaker 5: For the first time I saw a guy that literally, 1167 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 5: you know, hit a little adversity and just sucked it 1168 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 5: up and embraced it. Where in the past you saw 1169 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 5: a panic in the corners and you know he would 1170 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,400 Speaker 5: be a little you know, anxiety written he was I 1171 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 5: think he conquered some demons, and I think as a 1172 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 5: person and as a martial artist, that was a big 1173 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 5: step for George. I think he really he was relaxed 1174 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 5: at the pre fight stuff. I mean, he's normally kind 1175 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 5: of a wreck. I mean it looked like he really 1176 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 5: really grew as a person. He embraced everything, and he 1177 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 5: was enjoying it. That's what it looked like to me. 1178 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 6: Right now. 1179 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 1: Rousey and you want to Young j Check both hit 1180 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 1: that same roadblock when it comes to defending their title. 1181 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 1: What do you think is a bigger upset in your mind? 1182 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 1: You know, obviously styles there's a difference there. 1183 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 6: But is it Home defeating Rowsy or is it Rose 1184 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 6: defeating Young. 1185 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 5: J Jet Well, I think here's the deal. I think 1186 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 5: Home defeating Rowsy was a bigger thing only because the 1187 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,360 Speaker 5: media build up on Rousing. I mean, she she was 1188 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 5: getting that tysonesque like, you know, you know, coverage that 1189 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 5: she was just unbeatable. I think we all respected and 1190 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,840 Speaker 5: knew that that Joanna was phenomenal and she she was 1191 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 5: a great fighter, but they it wasn't. I didn't get 1192 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 5: the same feeling that they, you know, like I think 1193 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 5: maybe because Ronda was the first female and the way 1194 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 5: she was dominating, and you know, she was finishing people, 1195 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,399 Speaker 5: she was on barring people. She you know, Joanna wasn't 1196 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 5: you know, those fights are going the distance. She's great, 1197 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 5: but you know, she's I think that was a bigger 1198 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 5: upset to me. It's like that was you know, I 1199 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,440 Speaker 5: think there were more ryeballs on that fight for a reason, 1200 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 5: and I think that's why it was the bigger upset. 1201 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 5: I mean, Rose confined and there's no question about it. 1202 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 5: So that was you know, I think we all respected 1203 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 5: Rose's ability. We just thought that. I mean, I thought 1204 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 5: that Johanna was just too you know, like kind of 1205 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 5: active and powerful, and that didn't work out for But 1206 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 5: I think the Holly Holme fight was definitely a bigger 1207 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 5: upset in my eyes anyway, because Holly. 1208 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 7: Hold excuse me, Holly holm was about twice as heavy 1209 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 7: a betting underdog than roseenamin Unis was against Johanna Young, 1210 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 7: j Check, Cody Garbrandt and TJ. Dillashaw excuse me. Outstanding 1211 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 7: fight as long as it lasted. 1212 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 8: But for TJ. 1213 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 7: Dillashaw, here Ray essentially taking on an entire team. And 1214 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 7: you know, this has been a very difficult thing for TJ. 1215 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 7: He seems to have handled it all quite well. But 1216 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 7: you know, he got like your former best friend Chad 1217 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 7: Mendez now sparring with Cody in training him to beat you. Uh, 1218 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:03,880 Speaker 7: and he's got to have felt like a man on 1219 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 7: an island for a lot of this process. I gotta 1220 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 7: think few wins in the history of that octagon have 1221 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 7: been sweeter than the one that TJ. Dillashaw was able 1222 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 7: to get on Saturday night. 1223 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I get Look, man, they put so much emotion 1224 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 5: into the build up of this fight, and you know, 1225 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 5: I couldn't agree with you more that he had a 1226 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 5: lot resting on his shoulders. But again I think, you know, 1227 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,759 Speaker 5: he learned from the dominant Cruz fight not to get 1228 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 5: over emotional and and look, man, that fight they fight 1229 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 5: ten times, it could be five and five. I mean 1230 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 5: to me, it was definitely the firstest with the mostest 1231 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 5: is the bestest, you know, And I think the bell 1232 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 5: saved you know, TJ in the first round and and 1233 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,359 Speaker 5: Cody didn't have that luxury in the second round. But uh, 1234 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 5: you know, is he he definitely drew first blood with 1235 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,319 Speaker 5: that and that that that was a great fight, man. 1236 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 5: And again I think psychologically, you know, I think you know, 1237 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 5: Dilla Show did a great job really just you know, 1238 00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 5: man overcome and getting knocked down in the first round, 1239 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,440 Speaker 5: getting back to the corner and regroup and was was phenomenal. 1240 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 5: So he shows the characteristics of the true champion. And 1241 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 5: I think that's that's the takeaway from that fight. Man, 1242 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,479 Speaker 5: that's a that fight's gonna make him like a lot better, 1243 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 5: you know, because of all the shit he had a 1244 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,920 Speaker 5: deal with and go through. But you know, look, put 1245 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 5: it one either way, but he pulled it off and 1246 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 5: then Power told him and he was in a tough position. 1247 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 5: And I think also Cody's gonna really grow a lot 1248 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,120 Speaker 5: from that fight. You're gonna see both guys just a 1249 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 5: lot better because I'm sure, you know, Cody maybe got 1250 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 5: too emotional in that fight also, you know, so not 1251 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:40,960 Speaker 5: in the fight, but I mean in the build up, 1252 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 5: because they both looked like, you know, they both looked 1253 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 5: like two guys that knew each other, and you know, 1254 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 5: whoever was gonna you know, land first, was going to 1255 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 5: be in control. And again I think the bell saved 1256 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 5: TJ and he was able to regroup, and maybe that 1257 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 5: gave the other guy a little full sense of confidence, 1258 00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 5: and you know that's what happened. 1259 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 8: You know, all right, I'll get you out of here 1260 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 8: on this. 1261 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 7: You said earlier you referenced George Saint Pierre not remembering 1262 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,640 Speaker 7: the fight when he was doing that post fight interview 1263 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 7: with Joe Rogan, And I don't know if that's athlete 1264 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 7: adrenaline just sort of staying in the moment and not 1265 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 7: remembering a fight step by step. Kenny can probably speak 1266 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 7: better to this than anyone, or though, Ray, is this 1267 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 7: a byproduct of absorbing damage over a long career and 1268 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 7: a career spent sparring and getting prepared for five round 1269 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 7: championship fights? 1270 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 8: Like, what is your proto call for an athlete? 1271 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 7: I know George went to the hospital, but if this 1272 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 7: was your athlete, right, you see some of these symptoms 1273 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 7: based upon what you know right now? I mean, how 1274 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 7: soon does he fight? Kenny thinks he might retire, But 1275 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 7: how soon would you let that guy fight again? 1276 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,120 Speaker 5: No, he shouldn't fight for a while, because again, like 1277 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 5: when Joe said, let's look at your handiwork, I think 1278 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 5: he said, may explain it to me because I don't 1279 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 5: remember anything. And then again when he was in that octagon. 1280 00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 5: It looked like like it's not like he has been 1281 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,440 Speaker 5: there before. He's been in big fights, but this looked like, 1282 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 5: you know, I was trying to figure it out, like 1283 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 5: is he just embracing the moment, But it almost looked 1284 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 5: like they were going to have to remove him. It 1285 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 5: wasn't a person around, he was just walking around. 1286 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,040 Speaker 9: So I don't know. 1287 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,560 Speaker 5: I mean, he's definitely has to be looked at it. 1288 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 5: I mean, if he's got like friends around him, he 1289 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 5: has to be looked at for sure, you know, because 1290 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 5: if he's you know, if he was being humble, that's 1291 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 5: one thing, if he really meant it. I didn't think 1292 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 5: he took that many big shots in the fight. So 1293 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,479 Speaker 5: you know, he's a guy that seems like he's really 1294 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 5: in touch with his body and he does the right thing, 1295 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 5: and I think he'll want to get that taken care of. 1296 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 5: But I would definitely have a neurologist take a look 1297 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 5: at him, just to play it on the safe side, 1298 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 5: you know. But again, he might have been just you know, 1299 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 5: being very you know, humble, and Joe I don't remember anything, 1300 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,440 Speaker 5: you know, but but it didn't seem like that to me. 1301 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 5: It seemed like there was something deeper, and I think 1302 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 5: it's just worth. It's worth in today's day and age, 1303 00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 5: with the climate on the concussion stuff so hot, to 1304 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,360 Speaker 5: really take a look at that, because he's a great guy. 1305 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,600 Speaker 5: He's a great ambassador for the sport. Now, it would 1306 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,840 Speaker 5: it would be a bummer if that guy went out 1307 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 5: and he was a little banged up mentally. That would 1308 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,760 Speaker 5: not be a cool thing. I don't think so. I 1309 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 5: think it's just worth it just to look at it. 1310 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,360 Speaker 5: I think he's got some good people around him. I 1311 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 5: hope they do the right thing. 1312 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 8: All right, my man, have a great rest of the week. 1313 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 7: And by the way, at least in terms of crowd noise, 1314 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,200 Speaker 7: Madison Square Garden has nothing on that Nasau Coliseum. Widman 1315 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 7: Gastolm felt like twice as loud as as some of 1316 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,640 Speaker 7: the seminal moments we had on Saturday. 1317 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,440 Speaker 8: So good on, good on the island. 1318 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's crazy, all. 1319 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:38,880 Speaker 8: Right, my man. We'll talk to you next Monday. 1320 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,840 Speaker 5: Right, all right, man, take it these man take care guys. 1321 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 7: All right, there he is, Ray Longo and Ken flow 1322 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,840 Speaker 7: quickly before we transition to UFC Fight Night. Pourier versus 1323 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,240 Speaker 7: Pettis coming up at Old Dominion in Norfolk, Virginia this weekend. 1324 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 7: I just want to get one more thought from you 1325 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,439 Speaker 7: on Garbrand Dillashaw because I hoped we'd have more time 1326 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,280 Speaker 7: to go in depth on that fight. But in terms 1327 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,200 Speaker 7: of this angle of TJ taking on an entire team, right, 1328 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 7: like Dila Shaw's wrestling coach Daryl Christian suggested, I think 1329 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,560 Speaker 7: on Instagram that what Cody was doing leading up to 1330 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,800 Speaker 7: the fight was slander, right. I mean, I'm not a lawyer, 1331 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,680 Speaker 7: but they levied some major criticisms at TJ. 1332 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 3: Right. 1333 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 7: They questioned his character, his integrity, you know, said he 1334 01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 7: used performance enhancing drugs repeatedly and and help them you 1335 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 7: use those things. 1336 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 3: Right. 1337 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 7: So for Dila Shaw to win this fight in this manner, 1338 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:34,440 Speaker 7: you know, two months before he has, it's just nuts, man. 1339 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 3: You know. 1340 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 7: As as much as I love Cody and a lot 1341 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 7: of the guys on that team, I think if you 1342 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,200 Speaker 7: separate yourself from it, hard not to feel good for TJ. 1343 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 7: Delashawan when he was able to get done on Saturday. 1344 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1345 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And then the video that came out the night, 1346 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, the night before they have to compete. You know, 1347 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 1: Cody strategically put that video out there for a reason 1348 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,160 Speaker 1: to try to get in TJ's head, and yeah, he 1349 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 1: dealt with a lot. And it's unfortunate, especially in this 1350 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 1: time where anything you put out there, as far as news, 1351 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 1: you know, on social media or whatever, gets circulated extremely 1352 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 1: quickly and you are now guilty just because of some 1353 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 1: dude accusing you of something. 1354 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 5: Right, So. 1355 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,560 Speaker 1: It's tough, and it was must have been a very 1356 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 1: difficult time for TJ for him to put that aside 1357 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,640 Speaker 1: and get the win in the manner that he did, 1358 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,280 Speaker 1: especially coming back from being dropped in that first round 1359 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,400 Speaker 1: where he was really stepping in potholes going back to 1360 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 1: his stool, I thought was very impressive, And yeah, I 1361 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,760 Speaker 1: think this is going to be a huge confidence builder 1362 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 1: for him, knowing that he can come back from that 1363 01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 1: kind of adversity, both in the cage and outside of 1364 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 1: the cage. 1365 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:47,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was very very impressed. 1366 01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 7: Well with respect to Cody Garbrandt and Jimmy Rivera and 1367 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,680 Speaker 7: Domina Cruz and all the other big names in the 1368 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,960 Speaker 7: thirty five mix. Right now, I really want to see TJ. Dillashade, 1369 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,120 Speaker 7: Dimitrius Johnson, Kenny, I'd imagine you had to answer that 1370 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,920 Speaker 7: question on the post fight show on FS one Saturday night. 1371 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,600 Speaker 7: I mean, please tell me that's the fights you want 1372 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:06,919 Speaker 7: to see. 1373 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:08,000 Speaker 8: It is? 1374 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,760 Speaker 1: It absolutely is, But I'm telling you I wouldn't be 1375 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:12,720 Speaker 1: mad at a rematch between him and Cody. I think 1376 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,680 Speaker 1: they will fight at least one more time. Yeah, show, 1377 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,040 Speaker 1: and there's Domina Cruz and Jimmy Rivera out there. There's 1378 01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,440 Speaker 1: no shortage of matchups at one thirty five, let's put 1379 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,760 Speaker 1: it that way. And Yeah, I think that's a fight 1380 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:30,120 Speaker 1: everyone would like to see. I think Dimitrius Johnson has 1381 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 1: run out of opponents now. No offense to his other opponents, 1382 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 1: but he's run out of opponents now for a little bit. 1383 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 1: And I think that TJ Dilshaw really is the only 1384 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,880 Speaker 1: challenge for him. And TJ's willing to go down to 1385 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,080 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five pounds, which makes things that 1386 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,360 Speaker 1: much more interesting. Does the UFC love guys who are 1387 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,680 Speaker 1: holding two different belts than If TJ does win, what 1388 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 1: belt does he defend? Now that gets a little bit confusing. 1389 01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:57,360 Speaker 1: I love that stuff, but who knows what direction they're 1390 01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 1: gonna go? Either way, that is a super fight that 1391 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,560 Speaker 1: I know Daniell White loves and many of the fans 1392 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:02,160 Speaker 1: would approve of. 1393 01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 7: And you've got Henry Shudo and Sergio Petti is gonna 1394 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 7: fight in December, and it seems like DJ believes that 1395 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 7: his next flyweight contender would plausibly come out of that fight. 1396 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 7: But of course TJ Dillashaw with the big win now 1397 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,880 Speaker 7: injecting himself into that mix. And for TJ, you know, 1398 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 7: both guys could have a chance to become a two 1399 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 7: division champion, right, Like, if I'm DJ, I don't know 1400 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,640 Speaker 7: how much of a disadvantage it is Kenny to fight 1401 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 7: Dila Shaw at thirty five as opposed to twenty five. 1402 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 7: I know you think all these guys are super fast, right, 1403 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 7: but if I'm DJ, I might be like, dude, I'll 1404 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 7: come up and fight you thirty five, so less to 1405 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,440 Speaker 7: lose there. I don't know, but I just hope we 1406 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:41,280 Speaker 7: get or catchway J VERSUSJ say that again? 1407 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,720 Speaker 6: Or Catchwaight is another option, maybe one hundred and thirty pounds. 1408 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 7: Right, yeah, but then you're not becoming a two division champion, 1409 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,439 Speaker 7: which I know would incentivize at Dila Shaw for sure. 1410 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,680 Speaker 8: So my video feed isn't great. But are you wearing 1411 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 8: an orange shirt in our Orange studios? Oh we got 1412 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:55,320 Speaker 8: going on. 1413 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:56,680 Speaker 6: I look like a prisoner. 1414 01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that we have a background, but 1415 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 1: all you could probably see my giant head. 1416 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,960 Speaker 7: No, it looks a good kid. It's not clashing, kid, 1417 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 7: it's certainly not clashing. So you're doing something right. All right, 1418 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,200 Speaker 7: now it is time for the pronunciation of the week, 1419 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,680 Speaker 7: ladies and gentlemen, back by popular demand. 1420 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 6: TJ. 1421 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 7: DeSantis want to know after ken Flow gifted him? You 1422 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,760 Speaker 7: want to you know, Jai check last week. So today's 1423 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,440 Speaker 7: fighter is on the main card this Saturday night on 1424 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 7: f S one UFC Middleweight Ultimate Fighter Brazil Season one 1425 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:30,120 Speaker 7: winner Victor belfour protege who this weekend draws Nate the 1426 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:31,480 Speaker 7: Great Marcourt. 1427 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,240 Speaker 8: TJ. DeSantis, of whom am I speaking? 1428 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:41,640 Speaker 6: Mutanche? What's the last name? Doug Mutanche? That nickname? I 1429 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,480 Speaker 6: can't say the last name? I want to. 1430 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:44,320 Speaker 3: I know it. 1431 01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:45,439 Speaker 8: Well. 1432 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,720 Speaker 7: The good news is you butchered his first name, so 1433 01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,560 Speaker 7: we don't even get to the last name. Why don't 1434 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 7: you Why don't you play the file for uh for 1435 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:54,440 Speaker 7: our for our wonderful listeners. 1436 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:55,640 Speaker 3: Damn it sees a. 1437 01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:01,400 Speaker 5: Fia sees a don't you fida? 1438 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 6: That's exactly what I said. 1439 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,440 Speaker 8: It's no, it's it's Sesar. It's not Caesar. 1440 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,080 Speaker 6: He says, what are you talking about? 1441 01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 8: Either way? 1442 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:15,960 Speaker 7: Either way it's Cesar, Cesar, Mutanci, Fajeda one and one TJE. 1443 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:17,520 Speaker 6: And we didn't even get the last name, so we 1444 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:18,000 Speaker 6: can't give that. 1445 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,880 Speaker 7: Didn't even weren't even willing to say the last name, 1446 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,040 Speaker 7: which is what you You. 1447 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:23,720 Speaker 6: Didn't want to race. You didn't even want to race, 1448 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,480 Speaker 6: so you're out. Well, I mean, you gifted me last week, 1449 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,280 Speaker 6: so you know what? Why do I call the game? 1450 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,040 Speaker 6: Why do I even play the one and one? 1451 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 7: As they say, TJ? Better luck next week. Let's make 1452 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:37,919 Speaker 7: some pick shell. 1453 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,720 Speaker 4: It's the main Event Challenge and the time. 1454 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 6: Is most definitely named. 1455 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 8: I finished, fine, how do you everything? 1456 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:53,080 Speaker 4: Both will to win the Main Event Challenge? John Annick 1457 01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:54,520 Speaker 4: and Kenny Florian. 1458 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:59,000 Speaker 7: Podcast Our Team Flow led Team an eighty sixty nine 1459 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,600 Speaker 7: heading into UFC two seventeen, Ken Flow went head to 1460 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,640 Speaker 7: head with famed sports better Gianni the Greek, and by 1461 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,480 Speaker 7: virtue of his pick of TJ Dillashaw as underdog over 1462 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:12,640 Speaker 7: Cody Garbrandt Jiohnny the Greek takes the week for Team 1463 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,760 Speaker 7: Annick five to three lead now eighty three seventy four 1464 01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 7: heading into UFC Norfolk and joining us to make picks 1465 01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,080 Speaker 7: today Norfolk, Virginia born. He'll be in the building this 1466 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,800 Speaker 7: Saturday night. Podcast listener Kyle Harris is with us. Kyle, 1467 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:30,000 Speaker 7: say hello to Kenny Florian, kid Kin Flow. 1468 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,000 Speaker 10: I'm here, I'm here, I'm here to win this thing. 1469 01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:33,480 Speaker 9: What's up? 1470 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:33,720 Speaker 3: Man? 1471 01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:35,160 Speaker 7: Hi? 1472 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:39,920 Speaker 8: Finished fights? All right? 1473 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,080 Speaker 7: So fellas all told, we got seven picks to make 1474 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,760 Speaker 7: for this show. The only time we've done more than 1475 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,960 Speaker 7: that all year was UFC two hundred. So we'll take 1476 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,560 Speaker 7: your analysis here, fellas on the first four and then 1477 01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,280 Speaker 7: all we'll need is just a pick on the final 1478 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,880 Speaker 7: three fights. I'm trying to make up some ground seven 1479 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,120 Speaker 7: picks today, all right, first fight on the main car. 1480 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 7: So here we have one guy who Kenny Florian nearly 1481 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,160 Speaker 7: choked unconscious and another guy who he viciously TKO'd be 1482 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,640 Speaker 7: a ground and pounds. So we love this fight. If 1483 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:11,560 Speaker 7: we're team Florian, Claig Gida Joe los On. Nobody's laughing today, 1484 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,800 Speaker 7: hopefully the fucking listeners up. That was funny Claig geda 1485 01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:18,000 Speaker 7: versus Joe Loson. So pick them fight here, guys, both 1486 01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 7: are at minus one ten at least right now, and 1487 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,479 Speaker 7: I think both about is usc tested as it gets 1488 01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,280 Speaker 7: twenty fifth UFC fight for both men los On fourteen 1489 01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:29,639 Speaker 7: and ten and the Octagon Guita at thirteen and eleven, Kyle. 1490 01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,880 Speaker 7: Interesting fight here, big fight for both sides. Who do 1491 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,200 Speaker 7: you think wins in Va Guida or Loson? 1492 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,680 Speaker 10: Yeah, this is a really hard pick. Both guys are 1493 01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,000 Speaker 10: really fun to watch almost for like the meeting is 1494 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,680 Speaker 10: a little bit at a weird time in their career, 1495 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,320 Speaker 10: like it should have happened sooner. But los On has 1496 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,559 Speaker 10: been split in wins and losses for like the last 1497 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 10: five fights, so I think he's due for a win. 1498 01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 10: He's got great Brazilian jiu jitsu, but he hasn't submitted 1499 01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:57,400 Speaker 10: anyone since Jamie Varner in August twenty twelve. With that 1500 01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,439 Speaker 10: being said, I think the Carpenter keeps an unreal pace 1501 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,320 Speaker 10: and has great wrestling, but he's shown that he is 1502 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,599 Speaker 10: susceptible to submissions. You know, I think Loson gets him 1503 01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:07,320 Speaker 10: out of there with a choke. 1504 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,120 Speaker 8: All right, Ken Flow, you love this fight. I know 1505 01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,719 Speaker 8: you do this. This is a great fight with these guys. 1506 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 6: This is a great fight, man, This is a tough 1507 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:18,519 Speaker 6: one for me. 1508 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,559 Speaker 1: I think that if someone finishes the fight, I see 1509 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,880 Speaker 1: los On getting a submission if it goes the distance. 1510 01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 1: I see Clay Gueda just keeping that crazy pace and 1511 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,559 Speaker 1: lows On maybe fading later in the fight. 1512 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:31,479 Speaker 6: Jeez, I'll go. 1513 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,639 Speaker 1: I'll go with Clay. I guess, just to be different, 1514 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,280 Speaker 1: I'll go with Guida by decision. 1515 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,080 Speaker 8: All right, Clai Guida by decision for ken Flow. All right. 1516 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,599 Speaker 7: Next up, We've talked a lot about this UFC bantamweight 1517 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 7: division today. 1518 01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:44,280 Speaker 8: Never been better. 1519 01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,479 Speaker 7: And I think you have to say right now, hafae 1520 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:50,240 Speaker 7: Ela Sunsow still belongs in that conversation among the elite. 1521 01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,080 Speaker 7: Two straight wins after that loss to dillashat UFC two 1522 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,160 Speaker 7: hundred this summer. So now he draws Matthew Lopez, and 1523 01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,800 Speaker 7: I know at least one handicapper who thinks he's a 1524 01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,479 Speaker 7: live underdog this week. And he's Arizona born, he's tough 1525 01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,120 Speaker 7: as hell, goes way back with Dominic Cruz ten and 1526 01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,720 Speaker 7: one versatile finisher, and I guess he could take a 1527 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,560 Speaker 7: sun soa spot in the top five here if he 1528 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,720 Speaker 7: can spring the upset. So you're looking at minus two 1529 01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,360 Speaker 7: seventy Kyle for a sunsal plus two twenty for Matthew Lopez. 1530 01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:17,400 Speaker 8: Which way you go? 1531 01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,599 Speaker 10: You know, he's ranked number four a sunsau. He could 1532 01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,200 Speaker 10: easily keep up with anyone in the top five. His 1533 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,639 Speaker 10: last loss was to you know now a getting champ Killishaw. 1534 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,120 Speaker 10: He's starting to get up there in age a bit, 1535 01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,600 Speaker 10: but I think his experience and skill are just going 1536 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,559 Speaker 10: to be too much for Lopez. Give me a sunsal. 1537 01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, I got Coyle's goes with haf Al sunsaw Kempflow, 1538 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:39,519 Speaker 8: what do you think? 1539 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta go with the Sunsal as well. I 1540 01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:45,759 Speaker 1: think this kid Lopez has a very bright future. Awesome wrestler. 1541 01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,320 Speaker 1: Actually yeah, it was inspired by Dominica Cruz. I believe 1542 01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,920 Speaker 1: to get into mixed martial arts after being pretty successful 1543 01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:53,400 Speaker 1: as a wrestler in Arizona. 1544 01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 6: I think he is tough as hell. 1545 01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,599 Speaker 1: I think he's got a great chin, but I think 1546 01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,400 Speaker 1: a sun so skills are a little bit too much. 1547 01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,000 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be able to stop the takedowns, 1548 01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 1: keep it on the feet and maybe drop him for 1549 01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,280 Speaker 1: a TKO or or get a submission here. 1550 01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,519 Speaker 7: All right, next up, it'll be his twenty fourth and 1551 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:16,479 Speaker 7: final UFC appearance, Matt Brown a minus two forty favorite 1552 01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:20,720 Speaker 7: here against Diego Nightmare Sanchez. Sanchez at least right now 1553 01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,080 Speaker 7: can be had in the plus one to ninety range. 1554 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,639 Speaker 7: If you're interested, Kyle, who do you like here? Diego 1555 01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,160 Speaker 7: Sanchez or Matt Brown? With one foot out the door? 1556 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,080 Speaker 10: Man, let me just say, what a time to be 1557 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 10: a fight fan. This fight should be crazy telling you man, well, 1558 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,120 Speaker 10: I mean, I think Brown is going to be the 1559 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,880 Speaker 10: larger man here, and the dude is dangerous, like he's 1560 01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,160 Speaker 10: a killer, always looking for a finish. He's lost his 1561 01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,720 Speaker 10: last three and been finished, but it's been to elite competition. 1562 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,840 Speaker 10: But let's be real, man, Sanchez is a psycho who's 1563 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:51,559 Speaker 10: just not gonna stop. Ever, his heart is his biggest 1564 01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,840 Speaker 10: strength in my opinion. He's also trying to bounce back 1565 01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,639 Speaker 10: from a bad you know, knockout to raging now. Ain't 1566 01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,720 Speaker 10: no way this fight goes to a decision. If it does, though, 1567 01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:05,160 Speaker 10: I think it'll be Sanchez. Give me Sanchez, all. 1568 01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,720 Speaker 8: Right, Diego Sanchez for Kyle ken Flow. What do you 1569 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:09,120 Speaker 8: think here? 1570 01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,760 Speaker 7: Diego Sanchez taking on matth the Immortal Brown in his 1571 01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:13,880 Speaker 7: retirement fight well. 1572 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:14,200 Speaker 6: I'll tell you what. 1573 01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:19,160 Speaker 1: Sanchez a very inspiring fighter, fights with a tremendous amount 1574 01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,320 Speaker 1: of heart. I just don't think he's evolved enough or 1575 01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:24,519 Speaker 1: large enough to deal with someone like Matt Brown. And 1576 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,200 Speaker 1: considering that Diego Sanchez wants to get to the clinch 1577 01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,760 Speaker 1: and hit those takedowns, I don't think he's gonna get it. 1578 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,240 Speaker 1: And I think the strongest part of Matt Brown's game 1579 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,559 Speaker 1: is his clinch game. Those knees and elbows are absolutely brutal. 1580 01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:37,760 Speaker 1: Wouldn't be surprised if I see a finish from that 1581 01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 1: clinch with Matt Brown obviously inspired to be in his 1582 01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,519 Speaker 1: last fight here, I gotta go with Brown. 1583 01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,000 Speaker 8: And what a career it's been for Matt Brown. 1584 01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,800 Speaker 7: You know, he's one of these other guys not onlike 1585 01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,360 Speaker 7: Michael Bisping that I think we're gonna miss when he's gone. 1586 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,560 Speaker 7: I think one of the more memorable fights, Kenny, that 1587 01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,400 Speaker 7: you and I have called together was Matt Brown and 1588 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,520 Speaker 7: Eric Silva in twenty fourteen, that main event in Cincinnati. 1589 01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,000 Speaker 7: That fight had at all that Matt Brown was able 1590 01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,080 Speaker 7: to rally in front of his home crowd and win 1591 01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,960 Speaker 7: that fight was absolutely incredible. So we'll see if Matt 1592 01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:07,840 Speaker 7: Brown can turn back the clock, so to speak, and 1593 01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,400 Speaker 7: go out a winner, having lost at least his last two. 1594 01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:12,880 Speaker 7: I think coming in here as a two to one 1595 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:17,040 Speaker 7: or so favorite against Diego Sanchez. All right, the main event, 1596 01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,920 Speaker 7: Anthony Showtime Pettis won that Return of the Lightweight by 1597 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,960 Speaker 7: unanimous decision over Jim Miller. That was at UFC two 1598 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,400 Speaker 7: thirteen in July, and I thought he looked pretty good 1599 01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 7: doing so that night, Kenny against Jim Miller. Here he's 1600 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,240 Speaker 7: the minus one twenty five favorite against the slight minus 1601 01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:34,120 Speaker 7: one oh five underdog, Dustin Poorier. So Poorier on the 1602 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,599 Speaker 7: other side, former featherweight as well. Now seven fights into 1603 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,760 Speaker 7: his return to one hundred and fifty five pounds and 1604 01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:41,719 Speaker 7: he's only lost once in that stretch. 1605 01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,280 Speaker 8: That was the main event against Michael Johnson. 1606 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,160 Speaker 7: Last fight for Poorier, you may recall the no contest 1607 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,360 Speaker 7: against Eddie Alvarez, a fight in which he got a 1608 01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:52,559 Speaker 7: ton of shit done. Kyle, this is the main event. Therefore, 1609 01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,880 Speaker 7: we need a round and a method of victory. Dustin Poorier, 1610 01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,200 Speaker 7: Anthony Showtime, Pettis, who do you like? 1611 01:13:59,479 --> 01:13:59,599 Speaker 5: Hi? 1612 01:13:59,720 --> 01:13:59,920 Speaker 3: John? 1613 01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,519 Speaker 10: I wanted to see this fight for a long time. 1614 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,920 Speaker 10: I think it's a good style matchup. Both like to strike, 1615 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,680 Speaker 10: both have sneaky submissions. 1616 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:09,400 Speaker 8: You know, I'm Pettis. 1617 01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,640 Speaker 10: Though he's only one two of his last six. He 1618 01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,200 Speaker 10: did look good his last fight, but you know, I'm 1619 01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,120 Speaker 10: glad he's back to the land of the living in 1620 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 10: one fifty five. But I just think that confidence won 1621 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:24,400 Speaker 10: him the belt is gone. Besides a knockout to Johnson, 1622 01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,760 Speaker 10: Poitier has been on a good run, winning I think 1623 01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,679 Speaker 10: five out of his last seven since he lost to McGregor. 1624 01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,679 Speaker 10: I think his confidence is probably at an all time high, 1625 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,599 Speaker 10: even after the Alvarez fight. I'm gonna take the underdog 1626 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,080 Speaker 10: for you. Give me Poirier round three. Let's go TKO. 1627 01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:42,479 Speaker 8: Gotta love Kyle Harris. 1628 01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,880 Speaker 7: I can already guarantee you I'm bringing this kid back 1629 01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,639 Speaker 7: and actually, Kenny, this main event challenge has inspired Kyle 1630 01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,560 Speaker 7: and his friends to do a pick him contest of 1631 01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,360 Speaker 7: their own, picking all these fights. But see Kyle picking 1632 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,559 Speaker 7: the dog for me because he knows I'm trailing. That's 1633 01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,040 Speaker 7: what we're talking about. The Greek at bringing that to 1634 01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:00,680 Speaker 7: the table, all right, Ken, Pettis Pier, what'll it be here? 1635 01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:02,439 Speaker 8: Very close fight, According to Las Vegas. 1636 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,080 Speaker 7: Your thoughts on this main event coming up Saturday night, Well, listen, 1637 01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:05,759 Speaker 7: I don't. 1638 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:09,400 Speaker 1: Know if you can judge Anthony Pettis's career based on 1639 01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,080 Speaker 1: his fights at one hundred and forty five pounds. 1640 01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:12,000 Speaker 6: I really don't. 1641 01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,120 Speaker 1: I think you're just a complete guy who went from 1642 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,040 Speaker 1: one fifty five to one forty five. You're just not 1643 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:20,719 Speaker 1: the same person. So I think Anthony Pettis is gonna 1644 01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,679 Speaker 1: be a little bit faster. I'm not sure Dustin Poier 1645 01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:28,560 Speaker 1: necessarily has the advantage on the ground, and I'm not 1646 01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,960 Speaker 1: sure he can really take it there too much against 1647 01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:35,200 Speaker 1: Anthony Pettis. I think that Anthony has more variety with 1648 01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,559 Speaker 1: the striking Pourier. I think he's one of those guys 1649 01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,840 Speaker 1: who's not gonna quit. He's gonna be tough, he's gonna 1650 01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,240 Speaker 1: be pressuring. But I think Anthony Pettis is gonna have 1651 01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,120 Speaker 1: some tools to be able to counter repeatedly to self 1652 01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,960 Speaker 1: pause going at it, I expect Pettis to try to 1653 01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,679 Speaker 1: pick apart that lead leg of Dustin Pourier. 1654 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:53,200 Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with Pettis. 1655 01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,840 Speaker 8: Here, Can you give me a round in a method kit? 1656 01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:58,160 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, let's go with unless you don't 1657 01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,680 Speaker 1: want the points, of course, that's right. 1658 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,120 Speaker 6: No, No, I do need I do want those points. 1659 01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:04,080 Speaker 6: I need those points. 1660 01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:04,360 Speaker 10: Uh. 1661 01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,320 Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with Pettis by decision. 1662 01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:08,559 Speaker 8: Pettis by decision. 1663 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,840 Speaker 7: I know you want me eating a vegemite sandwich live 1664 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,200 Speaker 7: on Fox Sports stock spread. 1665 01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,120 Speaker 8: I know you are man and no butter underneath it. 1666 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:19,479 Speaker 9: Either. 1667 01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,599 Speaker 7: I feel like I'm back at Theta Kai fraternity getting 1668 01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,240 Speaker 7: hazed in the damn Main Event Challenge. 1669 01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:27,040 Speaker 8: All right, new addition to the Main Event Challenge quick pick. 1670 01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,280 Speaker 7: So when a fight card warrants it, and this one 1671 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,439 Speaker 7: certainly does, we're going to add some predictions without any 1672 01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:36,000 Speaker 7: lengthy analysis or reason for the play. So Kyle says 1673 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:39,439 Speaker 7: er Mutanci Fajita. He's won three of four minus one 1674 01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:43,720 Speaker 7: forty nine favorite here against the eighteen year pro Natean Markcourt, 1675 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,120 Speaker 7: the Trevor Whitman train. Mark Court will see if he 1676 01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,000 Speaker 7: can continue nama Unis's momentum. 1677 01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,920 Speaker 8: Mark Court plus one twenty one. Kyle, which way you 1678 01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,080 Speaker 8: go in Mutanci or Mark Court? 1679 01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,920 Speaker 10: Give me Caesar Caesar for Aah. 1680 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,120 Speaker 8: All right, Mutanchi for Kyle ken Flow. Which way you're going? 1681 01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:02,479 Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with Mark Work. 1682 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:07,920 Speaker 8: I wonder what the hell can flows up to? He's 1683 01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:09,599 Speaker 8: got something up asleep all right. 1684 01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,280 Speaker 7: Also on the main car, no betting line as yet, 1685 01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:17,120 Speaker 7: Andre Arlovsky, former UFC heavyweight champion Kyle trying to avoid 1686 01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:21,280 Speaker 7: a sixth straight loss against the upstart Junior Albini. Albini 1687 01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:22,680 Speaker 7: want to know in the UFC, but he's won his 1688 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,040 Speaker 7: last ten overall, Kyle, you go on Albini or Orlovsky. 1689 01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,759 Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't see the loss is changing for Andre, 1690 01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,200 Speaker 10: so give me Albini. 1691 01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,000 Speaker 8: Kenny, which way you going? Pit bulls listening? 1692 01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:38,360 Speaker 6: Junior baby baby, but I love, I love, well, please 1693 01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:38,880 Speaker 6: don't kill me. 1694 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:42,200 Speaker 7: Arlovsky's kids go to the same preschool as mine, So 1695 01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,360 Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell him this afternoon when I do pick 1696 01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:48,680 Speaker 7: up that you're taking Junior Albini. And finally, here's your 1697 01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:51,360 Speaker 7: featured prelim. When you hear the names, you're gonna understand 1698 01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,240 Speaker 7: why we need a pick here. How about the former 1699 01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,960 Speaker 7: two time world flyweight title challenger John Dodson now abandonm 1700 01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,439 Speaker 7: weight of course, if you know here he tried to 1701 01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,479 Speaker 7: send Marlo but Ice to zero and two in the UFC. 1702 01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,960 Speaker 7: We'll proceed as if Dodson is the favorite. I'll adjust 1703 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,759 Speaker 7: it accordingly when the line comes out if Marice is favored. 1704 01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:13,240 Speaker 8: Uh, Kyle, what do you think here? Marice or John Dotson? 1705 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, Dotson's hard to pick against. 1706 01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:20,639 Speaker 8: Give me the magician, Okay, can flow? Which way? 1707 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:23,040 Speaker 6: I'm going with Marice. 1708 01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:25,800 Speaker 8: Rice for can flow? 1709 01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:26,559 Speaker 3: All right? 1710 01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,920 Speaker 7: Kyle Harris, dude, appreciate, appreciate your support of the show 1711 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,360 Speaker 7: man and certainly, uh the time you put into the 1712 01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:33,200 Speaker 7: selections today. 1713 01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,400 Speaker 8: Buddy. Uh, I guess you got to get back to work, 1714 01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:36,960 Speaker 8: but we appreciate the time I'm in. 1715 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,080 Speaker 10: Yeah, thanks so much for having me real quick shout 1716 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,680 Speaker 10: out to my wife, my fight buddies, Mike Hez, Watino, 1717 01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,320 Speaker 10: Ray Louise and Martial Arts and hey, Kenny, congrats on 1718 01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:46,760 Speaker 10: that baby. 1719 01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:46,920 Speaker 5: Man. 1720 01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,160 Speaker 10: It's the best thing that'll ever happen to you. And 1721 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,320 Speaker 10: you guys call me anytime Ray Longo doesn't answer his phone. 1722 01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:53,800 Speaker 6: All right, I'll be here. You're the man. 1723 01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,320 Speaker 8: Thanks Kyle, Thank you, buddy. 1724 01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:56,200 Speaker 9: I appreciate it. Man. 1725 01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,560 Speaker 7: Kyle's gonna have sponsors before you know it, I know. 1726 01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,200 Speaker 7: Congratulating Ken flillheady stuff there. Thank you very much Kyle 1727 01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,800 Speaker 7: and all his buddies. Hopefully listening to work tomorrow. We 1728 01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,680 Speaker 7: appreciate the support, sincerely from all of you. All Right, 1729 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,519 Speaker 7: final thought on George Saint Pierre and Michael Bisping and 1730 01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,720 Speaker 7: anything UFC two seventeen related. 1731 01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:14,360 Speaker 8: And then I'll give you mine. 1732 01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:18,200 Speaker 7: But when we were talking along ago about this whole 1733 01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,720 Speaker 7: George Saint Pierre thing, and I suggested that maybe it 1734 01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:26,519 Speaker 7: was the athletes' adrenaline, Kenny, and not any concussive damage 1735 01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:30,360 Speaker 7: right when Saint Pierre couldn't recall immediately what had happened 1736 01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,439 Speaker 7: in the fight. So I just wanted to get your 1737 01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,800 Speaker 7: thoughts on George and how he may or may not 1738 01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,160 Speaker 7: have been impacted by what happened in the fight as 1739 01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:39,880 Speaker 7: to his recall after it. 1740 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:40,679 Speaker 6: One hunted. 1741 01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, listen, I think to your point, I've been 1742 01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,320 Speaker 1: in fights where I didn't really get hit and I 1743 01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:47,559 Speaker 1: was like, wait, what just happened? 1744 01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,040 Speaker 6: You know, things happened fast out there. 1745 01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:52,040 Speaker 1: When you're in a fight in a cage against another 1746 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:56,200 Speaker 1: professional fighter, things happened quick, and the adrenaline's going, the 1747 01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,679 Speaker 1: excitement is going, and you're not quite sure, like geez, 1748 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,160 Speaker 1: what what just happened. That was one of the cases 1749 01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,960 Speaker 1: against when I fought kid Cope. I remember that fight 1750 01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:07,679 Speaker 1: that TJ picked against me on it did all happened 1751 01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,800 Speaker 1: so quickly. I didn't even know what happened. So yeah, 1752 01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:12,559 Speaker 1: I'd have to watch the fight to go back and look. 1753 01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,639 Speaker 1: And he didn't really land a shot, by the way, TJ. 1754 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:20,040 Speaker 1: And you know what I spoke to, you know, one 1755 01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,320 Speaker 1: person very close to George Saint Pierre who said he 1756 01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,759 Speaker 1: was absolutely fine, He was totally good, he was healthy. 1757 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,639 Speaker 1: He was just going to the hospital for procractionary reasons, 1758 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,280 Speaker 1: as he should after a fight like that. 1759 01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,840 Speaker 6: And yeah, so I just wanted to say that, all. 1760 01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,640 Speaker 7: Right in my final thought on UFC two seventeen, and 1761 01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,680 Speaker 7: certainly apologies to James Vick and all the other big 1762 01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:42,559 Speaker 7: winners that we didn't have time to get to today. 1763 01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,920 Speaker 8: But Rosanama Yunis this is huge and you heard her today. 1764 01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,759 Speaker 7: I mean, humble to a fault, just a really classy 1765 01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:50,679 Speaker 7: young woman and I think she'll be a great champion 1766 01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,360 Speaker 7: for the UFC. And then for Joanna Young jcheck right. 1767 01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,400 Speaker 7: We talked about how appreciable a setback this is. She's 1768 01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,160 Speaker 7: going to spend some time in Poland now. When Ronda 1769 01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,240 Speaker 7: Rowsey lost to haul home Kenny. She would have been 1770 01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,120 Speaker 7: given the opportunity to have that rematch if she didn't 1771 01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,240 Speaker 7: want time away, Right, that was a busy year for 1772 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,479 Speaker 7: Ronda Rouse you if you recall she turned around after 1773 01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,400 Speaker 7: the Betskohea fight in August and fought Holly in November 1774 01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:14,839 Speaker 7: in Australia. No less, but I think for Yoanna Young, Jcheck, 1775 01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,600 Speaker 7: Jessica Andrage is waiting in the wings, and certainly on 1776 01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,880 Speaker 7: the strength of what she did against Cloud Jagadelia, she 1777 01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:23,040 Speaker 7: is a worthy number one contender. But given what you 1778 01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,400 Speaker 7: and Jcheck has done as this division's most dominant champion 1779 01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:28,599 Speaker 7: for the better part of two and a half years, 1780 01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,840 Speaker 7: don't you think, despite the fact that she got dusted 1781 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,599 Speaker 7: here in just over three minutes, that she is worthy 1782 01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,360 Speaker 7: of an immediate rematch if that's the direction in which 1783 01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:38,479 Speaker 7: the promotion chooses to go. 1784 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,920 Speaker 1: I don't think Andrage is the wrong choice, but yeah, absolutely, 1785 01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,360 Speaker 1: you defend that bell for that many times. Based on 1786 01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,479 Speaker 1: what Yanna has done, she absolutely deserves an immediate rematch. 1787 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:51,400 Speaker 7: Yes, all right, good stuff today, kid, Little choppy for 1788 01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:53,240 Speaker 7: me on the audio end, but hopefully it sounded good 1789 01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:54,960 Speaker 7: thanks to everybody at Fox sports dot Com. 1790 01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:56,679 Speaker 8: Really enjoying the partnership. 1791 01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:57,000 Speaker 5: I like that. 1792 01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:00,920 Speaker 7: I can see Kenny, you know, handsome guy. Makeup today? Flow, 1793 01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,639 Speaker 7: I know, no, no makeup. Maybe next week we'll see 1794 01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:05,960 Speaker 7: all right you Grey right now? 1795 01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:06,920 Speaker 8: You thank you? 1796 01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm hurting for Cirtain. I guarantee you're going straight 1797 01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:10,559 Speaker 7: to May Rocky BJJ from here. 1798 01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:11,000 Speaker 5: Is that right? 1799 01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:11,600 Speaker 8: Believe that? 1800 01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,320 Speaker 7: Thank God for Jason Hunt right holding it down in 1801 01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:19,400 Speaker 7: your absence, never there, working too hard. All right, Thank 1802 01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:21,840 Speaker 7: y'all for listen. Have a banging week y'all. Hope you'll 1803 01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,160 Speaker 7: join us for Petties Versus Poitier this Saturday night. I'm 1804 01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:26,760 Speaker 7: on the call on FS one with Paul Felder and 1805 01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,040 Speaker 7: we will be right back with you coming up Monday 1806 01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,280 Speaker 7: with a full recap and anything you need for that 1807 01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,840 Speaker 7: Sydney show as well. 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