WEBVTT - Ep. 165 — The Power in P---- People Off

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<v Speaker 1>Oh weird back, we're black, we're brown ambition.

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<v Speaker 2>I decided to start something new.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Tiffany, I'm here for it. It's Mandy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know, you know my memory and Mandy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like, I'm never gonna remember that song again. People

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<v Speaker 2>are like, oh, I like that. I'm like, girl, it's

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<v Speaker 2>gone already, It's gone.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 2>A minute ago you said you liked my top my song.

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<v Speaker 3>I think like it keeps you fresh, keeps his toes.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I have remember Dory from Home Finding Nemo.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh that's a good analogy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is that I am I am doing. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>wait what, oh hey, turning around, Oh hey, how is

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<v Speaker 2>your weekend?

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<v Speaker 3>We was good. Weekend was good. We had you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we had a little run in with a with a

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<v Speaker 3>really mean German shepherd and now my poor dog is traumatized.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're working through it. She is. It's so sad.

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<v Speaker 3>What can you know, they're just like humans a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit dogs, you know. She had this German shepherd came

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<v Speaker 3>at us when we're on our walk. We walked past

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<v Speaker 3>this house all the time, but this was the first time,

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<v Speaker 3>this idiot homeowner had the the fence open and this

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<v Speaker 3>massive dog came barreling out and it was too late.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't do anything. She went right for Molly, and

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<v Speaker 3>Molly seemed fine for the first couple of days. And

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<v Speaker 3>then ever since you know, last I don't know, Monday

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<v Speaker 3>or something, the poor girl has not wanted to leave

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<v Speaker 3>our front yard and she just shakes and she quivers,

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<v Speaker 3>and we've just had to I've been working with her,

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<v Speaker 3>slowly but surely to like come over this fear of

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<v Speaker 3>and I've been we've been watching a lot of like

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<v Speaker 3>don't laugh at me, a lot of rerun like old

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<v Speaker 3>episodes of the Dog whisper Fuck was so useful. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>if you have a dog, I just found the episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>We've been like binge watching a Dog's Whisperer, like two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand and four episodes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But the dog didn't bite her, did he?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it didn't. I mean she the owner ran out

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<v Speaker 3>and called her off quickly, and I was really I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I was more afraid for Molly. I just got the

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<v Speaker 3>hell out of there. I wasn't really thinking, oh, I

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<v Speaker 3>need to like get a report you know, talk to

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<v Speaker 3>this person. I just want to get my dog out

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<v Speaker 3>of there as fast as I could. But I was,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, looking back. He didn't even apologize. He just

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<v Speaker 3>called the dog off and they, you know, they went away,

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<v Speaker 3>which is honestly what I wanted them to do, which

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<v Speaker 3>was like get away. But I don't know, I've been

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about what to do. She didn't bite Molly. She

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<v Speaker 3>didn't bite me, but she would have if he hadn't

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<v Speaker 3>called her off because she was starting to go for

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<v Speaker 3>Mollie's like her neck leg.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So, my poor puppy. She's been through a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>but she's she's good. We've been using a I was

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do my brown boost for all, go ahead and

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<v Speaker 3>say it now though. I've been using this app called Wag.

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<v Speaker 3>W a g if you guys have a dog and

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<v Speaker 3>you're wondering or you don't have a dog, like I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have a dog, and you're wondering, how can I

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<v Speaker 3>possibly you know, have a dog when I work all

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<v Speaker 3>day long and you know, how can I afford a

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<v Speaker 3>dog walker or whatnot? We decided to start using this

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<v Speaker 3>app called Wag, which is basically like dog walking Uber.

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<v Speaker 3>So you create a schedule. You know, do you want

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<v Speaker 3>to be do you want to walk tomorrow? Do you

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<v Speaker 3>want to walk every Monday through Friday, you know, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

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<v Speaker 3>And then what time do you want it? And then

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<v Speaker 3>Wag has this like concierge service where they go and

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<v Speaker 3>find a vetted, interviewed, you know, dog walker in your

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<v Speaker 3>area to take your schedule and awesome. Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 3>a little nervous because it's not like Uber, because it's

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit like Uber. I mean, you are trusting

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<v Speaker 3>a stranger with your life in a car, but to

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<v Speaker 3>have someone you know come into your house and then

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<v Speaker 3>trust them with your dog. I definitely checked into how

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<v Speaker 3>they vet their dog walkers and most of the all

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<v Speaker 3>the dog walkers have actual experience either dog walking or

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<v Speaker 3>as an animal shelter volunteer or something like that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and I believe WAG will give you And this is

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<v Speaker 3>not this is not a promotion, like I don't make

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<v Speaker 3>any money off this. I'm just saying WAG will give

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<v Speaker 3>you like a wag wock box where you can lead

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<v Speaker 3>the key to your house. But we have like an

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<v Speaker 3>electronic door code thingy where we created a special code

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<v Speaker 3>for dog walkers, So okay, when he arrives, we know

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<v Speaker 3>that he's arrived because he's used a special code and

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<v Speaker 3>that's how he gets in. And but it's been really good.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I met him in person the first time

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<v Speaker 3>he walked her, and then he's he's ended up being

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<v Speaker 3>super nice and he's walking her every day. And the

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<v Speaker 3>funny thing is like, yeah, when you're when your wag

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<v Speaker 3>walk stop starts, you get like Apple alerts. And so

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<v Speaker 3>the first day it was like, Molly pooped. Want to

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<v Speaker 3>see where Molly Molly pede? Open up the wag gap

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<v Speaker 3>to see and you can like cute. Yeah, so it's

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<v Speaker 3>great and then I and then I feel I don't

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<v Speaker 3>feel so bad leaving her at home because I know

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<v Speaker 3>she's going to get like a thirty minute walk in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of the day and we don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>rush home, you know, worried about her having an accident.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what that's what that's what dogs do. I

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<v Speaker 2>forgot that, Like, that's what's so hard sometimes about having

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<v Speaker 2>a dog is that you can't lead them home for

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<v Speaker 2>too long because they we are going to have accident.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, for sure, we had. We only had one accident,

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<v Speaker 3>so far. It's because we were just gone too long.

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<v Speaker 3>And oh I didn't mention the price. So the price

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<v Speaker 3>of walking Molly in my neighborhood was seventeen dollars per walk.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>Not terrible, especially when you you know, consider how much

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<v Speaker 3>they're getting vetted and that. It just gives me peace

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<v Speaker 3>of mind. So I'm on a happy camper. Hey, wag,

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<v Speaker 3>you want to sponsor the show?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you might hear a little bit of noise in

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<v Speaker 2>the background. I mean, I'm in your old stopping ground,

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<v Speaker 2>Jersey City.

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<v Speaker 3>What's you even in my old city?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so for those of you who followed me as

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<v Speaker 2>a bunchanista, you know, like my and I know Mandy,

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<v Speaker 2>E've been like seeing all my ads, but my online school,

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<v Speaker 2>the Liberature Academy. Actually, today is the day if you're

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<v Speaker 2>listening live or listening like you know when we discoes live.

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<v Speaker 2>The first time that the Academy is opening back up

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<v Speaker 2>for registration. We've been closed for a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 2>because I just wanted to make it better, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I I've been trying to struggle with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what do people really need? You know, when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to their personal finances, and I realized that everybody wants

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<v Speaker 2>financial freedom. So I really worked really hard with some

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<v Speaker 2>experts to create something called this financial Freedom Plan, and

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<v Speaker 2>it took a lot of time and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>effort and a lot of money. So as a result,

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<v Speaker 2>the Academy, I have to increase the price time, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing, I actually don't feel bad about it,

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<v Speaker 2>because one, I am giving people one last chance to

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<v Speaker 2>lock in at its current rate, which is nine thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>nine nine tens a month, so like ten bucks a month,

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<v Speaker 2>which honestly it's nothing, and all my business colleagues and

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<v Speaker 2>my business coach and everyone's like, you're crazy, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was almost mostly be for six months. Three months later,

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<v Speaker 2>three years later, we're still at like ten bucks a month,

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<v Speaker 2>and so really the Academy's going to go to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nine to ninety nine a month. But I also know

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<v Speaker 2>that some people can't afford that, so I said to

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<v Speaker 2>my team, We're going to do one last kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like registration push and the way what I've always hated, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because you heard Netflix is growing up in price.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, oh they are? Again.

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<v Speaker 2>I always feel like this that like if I am

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<v Speaker 2>a loyal customer. Why do new people get better prices

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<v Speaker 2>than me? I mean, I know why, but I just

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<v Speaker 2>feel like that's not fair. So we want to do

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite. So if you are a current Academy member,

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<v Speaker 2>you will always pay nine thousand, nine nine tenents a month.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you sign up now for this last kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like this is our last registration where it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be nine thousand, nine nine tens a month, you

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<v Speaker 2>will always be that, even after it goes to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nine ninety nine a month, even after re upgrade to

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<v Speaker 2>the Academy two point zero with the Financial Freedom Plan,

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<v Speaker 2>even ten years from now at the Academy's one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>bucks a month. Let's just say so, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>my way to say, if you invest in yourself, I

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<v Speaker 2>really feel like you should be rewarded for that, And

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<v Speaker 2>if you're loyal, I feel like you should be rewarded

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<v Speaker 2>for that. So I'm super excited we're taking like a

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<v Speaker 2>limited number of students. I always try to keep the

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<v Speaker 2>Academy fairly small because we have about maybe like seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>thousand students, but there are seven hundred thousand dream Catchers,

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<v Speaker 2>so we typically keep registration pretty small. Because I really

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<v Speaker 2>like that people get individualized attention because you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of experts and instructors, about fifty of them, and

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<v Speaker 2>I want people to be able to ask the questions

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<v Speaker 2>to get them answered. So if you're interested and you're listening,

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<v Speaker 2>you can go to join LRA dot com joined with

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<v Speaker 2>the L and R than a dot com from Literature

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<v Speaker 2>Academy and locking your rate at nine thousand nine anetents

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<v Speaker 2>a month because when the price goes up, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear no complaints. I feel like I did

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<v Speaker 2>all that I could to get everybody in at a

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<v Speaker 2>super discounted rate.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's more than fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a statement from a credit card company that

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, we're increasing your rate because you've been

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<v Speaker 3>a customer for twenty not twenty years. Okay, you've been

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<v Speaker 3>a customer since two thousand and seven and everyone has

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<v Speaker 3>a higher rate than you, so we're gonna watch that up.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, what, Honestly, I don't think that's right. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I really, I mean I get it, because I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>As a company, you have to make money, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to pay staff, you have to so and inflation dictates

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<v Speaker 2>that you have to charge more, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>there has to be a better So I'm really trying

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<v Speaker 2>out a different business model, which is one we're rored

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<v Speaker 2>people who invest in themselves early or war people who

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<v Speaker 2>take advantage of like, you know, good deals, and then

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<v Speaker 2>not to say we're punishing new students who sign up later,

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<v Speaker 2>who like don't catch the deal. But you know, it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you had plenty of time to lock this in,

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<v Speaker 2>so anytime after that, So the we're gonna only have

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<v Speaker 2>registration open just for a few days and then we

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<v Speaker 2>won't open it back up again until like April or May,

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<v Speaker 2>and by then it'll be the upgrade two point zero

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<v Speaker 2>Academy and it'll be the new price of twenty nine

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine a month. But I don't feel like that's

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<v Speaker 2>a punishment because honestly, even that slow in comparison to

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<v Speaker 2>what we're what you're getting at the Liberature Academy, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like a I don't feel like the Academy is right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a library of really dope classes and courses,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when we upgrade to the two point zero,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like the library. On top of that, it's also

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<v Speaker 2>like this GPS system that we've created that walks you

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<v Speaker 2>step by step, hand holding you to financial freedom. Like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a financial freedom means time with the kids,

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<v Speaker 2>it means not working past forty five, if it means

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<v Speaker 2>having three hundred thousand dollars stave, whatever that looks like

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<v Speaker 2>for you. We want to create like a personalized plan

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<v Speaker 2>and help you automate it and help you like achieve

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<v Speaker 2>it because I always feel like what I'm working on

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<v Speaker 2>for myself, I want for other people around me. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're excited about this new shift. I don't know, like honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's a really exciting time because it's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that there are other online platforms that are

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<v Speaker 2>dedicated to your members. The where we are when we

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<v Speaker 2>go above and beyond, Like I'm in Jersey City because

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<v Speaker 2>I actually flew out half my team to help make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that tomorrow when we reopen the doors, that there

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<v Speaker 2>are no issues. I have my tech support here, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got my marketing person here, I've got everyone's here, like

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<v Speaker 2>customer supporters here. Everyone's here to make sure that when

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<v Speaker 2>the door's open, well not tomorrow, Like those of you

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<v Speaker 2>guys are listening, it's today, but that there's no issue

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<v Speaker 2>when you go to join lry to sign up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so hopefully I'll see you inside of your academy. I

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<v Speaker 2>know most of you are many of you are are

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<v Speaker 2>members already, but it's just like it's exciting to me

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<v Speaker 2>you guys in person and hear all the amazing stories

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<v Speaker 2>of transformation.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank listen, I still pay for the subway even though

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<v Speaker 3>they never they always increase their rates and never improve service.

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<v Speaker 3>So these are improving something. Did you see this story

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<v Speaker 3>though about like Becky from Full House and the City

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<v Speaker 3>Huffman from Desperate Housewives, like they were arrested. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>realize they were arrested, arrested today and charged with paying

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<v Speaker 3>hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes to cheat their

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<v Speaker 3>daughters into college. This is crazy. Let me read the

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<v Speaker 3>story from USA today. So they report that they were

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<v Speaker 3>charged along with nearly fifty other people in the scheme

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<v Speaker 3>which wealthy parents allegedly bribed college coaches and insiders. At

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<v Speaker 3>College Testing Centrist, we need to have Lynette Califoni Cox

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<v Speaker 3>on the phone for this because first of all, she

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<v Speaker 3>has made a career right of talking about how she

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<v Speaker 3>gets her kids. So many scholarships and doing it the

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<v Speaker 3>right way anyway. So fifty parents scheming college coaches and

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<v Speaker 3>insiders at college testing centers to help get their children

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<v Speaker 3>into some of the most elites schools in the country.

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<v Speaker 3>That is insane.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I I just want to be like, isn't

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<v Speaker 2>that serious?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess so. I mean they were they were like

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<v Speaker 3>paying people to take SAT tests for them. They were

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<v Speaker 3>paying people to like put on their applications that they

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<v Speaker 3>were like recruited for athletics. They would get treated differently

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<v Speaker 3>through the application process apparently.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just feel like, I don't know, like it

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<v Speaker 2>just does seem because what are you really teaching your kid? Like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you don't have the grades, if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the aptitude, how are you going to survive

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<v Speaker 2>at Princeton anyway? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's true, That's very true, because you're I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be curious to see this all happened, like I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's. The report says in twenty sixteen, some of

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<v Speaker 3>these parents, including full House Becky was full House Becky,

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, Becky, I know anyway, they say that they

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<v Speaker 3>this all happened to like twenty sixteen, So I wonder, like,

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<v Speaker 3>are the kids in the schools now do they get

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<v Speaker 3>taken out?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, and all just stuff, But what are you

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<v Speaker 2>really teaching your child? That's why you know they grew

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<v Speaker 2>up to be like the current president of the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>But this all goes back to, like I mean, not

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<v Speaker 3>just all goes back, but so many parents today are

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<v Speaker 3>just the amount of money pouring into children for like

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<v Speaker 3>education and especially I mean this isn't necessarily about college,

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<v Speaker 3>but like even at the primary school high school level,

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<v Speaker 3>like in studies like New York, where parents are shelling

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<v Speaker 3>out tens of thousands of dollars a year just for

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<v Speaker 3>like public school or private school, but like an education

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<v Speaker 3>where you know, it's just very competitive and there's like

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<v Speaker 3>there's this desperation to get the best for your kid.

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<v Speaker 3>And I can almost see how parents just take it

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<v Speaker 3>like way too far.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it just they just do. Because here's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing. I mean, they've shown over and over and

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<v Speaker 2>over again that you know, success really comes from like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, integrity. I'm a I guess it depends what

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<v Speaker 2>you define success as you know, that like true success,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, like feeling like ownership and pride and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what you've accomplished doesn't come from cheating your

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<v Speaker 2>way to the top. Because here's the thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know a ton of people who have all this

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<v Speaker 2>accomplishments and all this money and all this this, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're not particularly happy. And I guess it's like, is

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<v Speaker 2>that really success? I don't know. It just seems like

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<v Speaker 2>all too much. And I'm not gonna lie though. I

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<v Speaker 2>went to Westfield High School, WI to predominantly not brown

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<v Speaker 2>ambition school, We'll just say that. And I remember Lisa,

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<v Speaker 2>my baby sister, was telling me that they were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about privilege in school. I forget what class it was.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, stand up if you've never had your

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<v Speaker 2>parent call and get a grade change for you, And

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa stood up, like okay, all of us, and she

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<v Speaker 2>was the only one, the only one. And he said, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 2>please thank your parents for me. Every single student I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even know that existed, and parents called in, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>called the principal, called super calls. It's gonna my child

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<v Speaker 2>is not getting this great da da da da da.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that just seems that was mind bodeling to me,

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<v Speaker 2>that like, and it just set the tone for like, oh, so,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all in here just getting these inflated fake grades while

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<v Speaker 2>I'm over here busting out behind But then you want

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<v Speaker 2>to tell me I need to be in the slow

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<v Speaker 2>class or whatever. You know. Yeah, it's just honestly, it's

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<v Speaker 2>an egregious use of privilege.

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<v Speaker 3>Well I wonder, I just wonder what happens to the kids,

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<v Speaker 3>and like, how if they knew what was going on?

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<v Speaker 3>If I mean, how furious would you be if you

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<v Speaker 3>found out your parents does something like that for you

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<v Speaker 3>and then jeopardize your reputation. I mean, that's that's just sad.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that is your That is your flash headline

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<v Speaker 3>update of the evening. What else has been happening in

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<v Speaker 3>the world?

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<v Speaker 2>There was I can't even it was a story, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm it's like about a basketball player and it's like

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<v Speaker 2>how fans have been like so racially charged toward them,

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<v Speaker 2>and how I think one of the I forget the name,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I just had it in front of me,

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<v Speaker 2>but he I guess he fought back and they're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to like attack him. They're like, yeah, but what about

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<v Speaker 2>the fans that you know? This one fan and his

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<v Speaker 2>wife told him get on your knees like you used

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<v Speaker 2>to or something like your people used to it something

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<v Speaker 2>like that that I just I know. And so he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I guess this particular basketball player. Of course

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember his name. I can't find him. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>is it darn it, yeah, I can't find I just

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<v Speaker 2>think that, like, yeah, I just think that, like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that when people are What I just learned

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<v Speaker 2>is that when people on the spot like the spotlight

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<v Speaker 2>could just be so cruel. People think they can say

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<v Speaker 2>whatever they want to you, and God forbid you say

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<v Speaker 2>or do anything back. Then all of a sudden, you're unprofessional.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder when did that become the rule that the

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<v Speaker 2>public at large is allowed to be abusive, but a

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<v Speaker 2>company or an individual on the spot like cannot retaliate

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<v Speaker 2>or say anything back. I think that that's just unfair.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why, honestly, my block game is strong. If you

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<v Speaker 2>say something even a little bit sideways to me, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm not in this screenshot culture. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna clap back to you can screenshot and be like

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<v Speaker 2>look what Tiffany said, you know, so instead I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you block from everything, I will block you from the

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<v Speaker 2>email list, I will block you from the Facebook group,

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<v Speaker 2>I will block you from everything. You won't get any

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<v Speaker 2>more resources from me. Mama not talking to me crazy

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<v Speaker 2>and then hit me later like I'm sooe sorry. You

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<v Speaker 2>know sometimes I've gotten that people talk crazy and then

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<v Speaker 2>they say they're so sorry. I'm like, yes, you are sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Black So you can't contact me this way either. People have,

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<v Speaker 2>but E actually started new emails or new Facebook pages

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<v Speaker 2>or new Instagrams to tell me please let me back

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<v Speaker 2>in now, because now you're you're showing me displays of

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<v Speaker 2>crazy on top of meanness?

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<v Speaker 3>Did I mention? Did I mention way back when when

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<v Speaker 3>I had a candidate apply for a writing job and

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<v Speaker 3>then didn't get the job, and then just la ambassadors

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<v Speaker 3>on Greenhouse or not Greenhouse glassdoor dot com and like

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<v Speaker 3>wrote this really very specific review of the interviewing process.

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<v Speaker 3>Very negative review is so much so specific that you

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<v Speaker 3>can easily like I could easily tell who it was,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, even though it was anonymous. And then recently

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<v Speaker 3>she applied for another job here it's like the audacity. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>when I saw her resume come through, I'm like, where

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<v Speaker 3>what what?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? So I know that the player's name, it's Russell Westbrook.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry you Tah from the Utah Jazz. Okay, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, it's just but can you imagine, But it's

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<v Speaker 2>it seems to me that it's people like that that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, It's like you pay money to come to

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<v Speaker 2>the game, you apply for a job here, you say

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<v Speaker 2>all this crazy stuff, and now you're back. What it's

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<v Speaker 2>to me, maybe it's just a level of like mental

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<v Speaker 2>instability or something like that. But like I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>honestly can say that I do not engage. Every once

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<v Speaker 2>in a while, I'll be a little bit petty and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll send them a heart and then block them so

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<v Speaker 2>that way they're like, oh I got a response from her.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, I can't see it. But like that's as

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<v Speaker 2>petty as I get, because I'm like, girl, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have time with this.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I just I mean, there's people who deserve

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<v Speaker 3>a negative reputation and people calling them out for it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I feel like, you know, everyone has haters, and

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<v Speaker 3>especially as you start to like build your business or

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<v Speaker 3>you become a you know, more successful in your career.

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<v Speaker 3>And I found this to be true, Like for myself,

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<v Speaker 3>I pissed people off regularly. You know, it's just part

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<v Speaker 3>of the job. Sometimes you have to give feedback that's critical.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to drop people from the team who aren't contributing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, holding their weight, and you have to mentally

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<v Speaker 3>prepare yourself for the backlash like I've had. I've had

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<v Speaker 3>freelance writers threatened my life, threatened to like come. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I've had people tell me that I'll be sorry forever

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<v Speaker 3>cutting them from the our freelancer team. There's there's one

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<v Speaker 3>every six months, like a crazy person who comes, and

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<v Speaker 3>or ones that have tried to post publicly about working

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<v Speaker 3>with us and say things that aren't true about working

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<v Speaker 3>with us. And I've always had to just shut up

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<v Speaker 3>and never and this is this is as much as

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<v Speaker 3>I've ever said about any of this ever happening, because

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<v Speaker 3>I know if I say something, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>jeopardize myself with my with my company. And also I

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<v Speaker 3>know the truth, which is that if you ask the

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<v Speaker 3>whole of our the people who work with us, or

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<v Speaker 3>if you ask the person every person I work with

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<v Speaker 3>in my career on a you would get a positive experience. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>there'd be a couple of negatives because that's just life.

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<v Speaker 3>But if on the on average, you have you know,

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<v Speaker 3>great experiences in your fair and ethical and you treat

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<v Speaker 3>people right, then all this like the negative will just

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<v Speaker 3>get faded out. And like you'll see people that we

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<v Speaker 3>have worked with us and with me who have come

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<v Speaker 3>to our defense when they've seen yeah, criticisms like that.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think the high road, like when they

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<v Speaker 3>go low, we go hig I Michelle Obama right, Like

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<v Speaker 3>that's the only way you can. That's the best way,

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<v Speaker 3>even though it's frustrating and like really hard sometimes to

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<v Speaker 3>just zip your lips and just let the haters shout

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<v Speaker 3>and yell.

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<v Speaker 2>No no, I agree. Honestly, I feel like my job

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<v Speaker 2>is always to make a liar out of the hater,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what I mean? Like, you know, like okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if one person says something so terrible and I've had

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<v Speaker 2>I remember one time somebody's mad at me. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Something was posted in the DreamCatcher group and she posted

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<v Speaker 2>something and it was deleted. But it wasn't me because

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<v Speaker 2>kind of well I've got like fifteen admins, so but

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't It wasn't finance related. It was about like

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<v Speaker 2>her time land trip, I don't know, something so she

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<v Speaker 2>went on I didn't know, but she herself was like

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<v Speaker 2>a businesswoman, and I think, I don't know what she taught,

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<v Speaker 2>but she you know, she had a pretty decent violence.

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<v Speaker 2>So then she went on her personal Facebook page. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is meanwhile, like the day after I had my

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<v Speaker 2>fiveboard search, so I wasn't even like on Facebook. I

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't until actually, Tila, you know, one of our great,

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<v Speaker 2>awesome financial friends, was like, h someone that's posting about

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<v Speaker 2>you and it's pretty nasty. Are you like what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, uh too, I'm in the hospital, like

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<v Speaker 2>recovering from fireboard surgery and I didn't do anything. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you short about me? She's like, she didn't say my name,

0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:35.760
<v Speaker 2>but she was like mm, the way she described you,

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty specific and it's very obvious that she's talking

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<v Speaker 2>about you. And I was like, okay, So I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to read it, and I was like so disheartened because

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<v Speaker 2>this it was a woman who had like a dope

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<v Speaker 2>business and she seemed like, you know, like another sister,

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<v Speaker 2>and the fact that she was like dragging me and

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<v Speaker 2>literally I'm like, yo, I'm I'm in the hospital. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know I don't know what the post was,

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<v Speaker 2>but does it warrant you're about Thailand being removed from

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<v Speaker 2>a Facebook group? Does it warrant this public like dragging?

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember thinking like wow. But what I really

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<v Speaker 2>loved was in the comment. I mean, there are some

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<v Speaker 2>people in the comments who are like, says she jealousy

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, they didn't know me, they didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>who she was talking about. They were just in general says,

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<v Speaker 2>people be jealous of you, says you know. And then

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<v Speaker 2>but then people who knew, like, are you talking about Tiffany? Wait,

0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Tiffany is so I would say, you know, two thirds

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<v Speaker 2>of the comments were like, girl, are you crazy? Like

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<v Speaker 2>that's not Tiffany, Like are you sure? One? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's got a team of admins, And maybe if you

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<v Speaker 2>would have written her personally, you wouldn't have had all

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<v Speaker 2>of this. So it was just great to see how

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<v Speaker 2>many people came to my defense because what she's saying

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<v Speaker 2>just wasn't true. And the fact of the matter is

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<v Speaker 2>literally I had no idea. And then I was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>actually reach out to her and say I'm so sorry

0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:49.600
<v Speaker 2>you had a negative experience. But then I thought about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought Tiffany, this is a poisonous, cancerous person.

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<v Speaker 2>What because and if someone would do this over a

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook post about Thailand being deleted, why would I want

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<v Speaker 2>to make any sort of connection. So honestly, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>say anything. I didn't comment, I didn't anything. I didn't

0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:08.639
<v Speaker 2>She eventually reached out to me an email and messaged me.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't reply because I was like, yeah, I'm good

0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:14.040
<v Speaker 2>on cancer, you know, And so I've just learned that,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, sometimes people do things like that and

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<v Speaker 2>it's really it's unfortunate, but you know, eventually it dies down,

0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:22.679
<v Speaker 2>everybody goes back to their corner, and some other drama

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<v Speaker 2>picks up again, and somebody else can focus on something else.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just remember, honestly, more than anything else, feeling

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<v Speaker 2>hurt because I had, like, you know, when I looked

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<v Speaker 2>at her business and like started to I admired her business,

0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:36.159
<v Speaker 2>and I thought like, wow, but like, look, you know,

0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:38.400
<v Speaker 2>she's got a lot of time on her hands. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, apparently to attack over a Facebook post. I

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<v Speaker 2>just thought to myself, where there's something not right there,

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<v Speaker 2>there's something unhappy there, because I can't imagine myself. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been in plenty of Facebook groups where my posts had

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<v Speaker 2>been removed, I guess, and it doesn't you know. My

0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:57.040
<v Speaker 2>reaction was never to like drag and attack another person.

0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:59.439
<v Speaker 2>I've never dragged to attack another person on that mean,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the price, but I mean he deserves it.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know even that, I just even that, like

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the Internet, I just I don't know. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just I've I feel like everyone, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>are like posting less these days, and part of me

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<v Speaker 3>is like, first the fear around you just you hear

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.760
<v Speaker 3>people getting fired over their tweets so they wrote years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm just like, for my own self preservation, I

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<v Speaker 3>just don't feel like it's worth it to post or

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<v Speaker 3>to tweet, you know, everything that I feel about something,

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<v Speaker 3>And a lot of people are doing it because you

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<v Speaker 3>get addicted to the feedback and the likes and the

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<v Speaker 3>retweets and stuff, and I just I let that go.

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:36.720
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, like the high road is usually the best way,

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:40.359
<v Speaker 3>and if you know who you are, then pissing people

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<v Speaker 3>off every once in a while, it's just part of

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<v Speaker 3>the course, man.

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<v Speaker 2>And we have just a little bit of time to

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<v Speaker 2>take a question you want to take at least one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's take one question. We've got a good one.

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:24.159
<v Speaker 3>Let's see if she want us to use her name.

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<v Speaker 3>She doesn't say, okay, so I'm going to call her out.

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<v Speaker 3>Her name is ooh, this is a pretty name, Artisia

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:32.720
<v Speaker 3>or Artisia. Artiza says, Hey, Tip and Mandy, your show

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:35.160
<v Speaker 3>is a godsend. Aw thank you for sharing your experience.

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 3>And she heard this is her question. Artija says, I'm

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:40.960
<v Speaker 3>a black woman. I'm a black young woman who's quickly

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<v Speaker 3>approaching thirty, and I want to know what's the best

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 3>way to deal with the hurt and anger from noticeable

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<v Speaker 3>special treatment when it comes to career development given to

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<v Speaker 3>other non brown colleagues in corporate America best regards. Ooh,

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<v Speaker 3>good question. Oh yeah. I mean this is the kind

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<v Speaker 3>of thing that it's so hard to say out loud

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<v Speaker 3>to anyone, to anyone who's not also a person of color,

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.880
<v Speaker 3>because you know, even if they're not saying it, they're thinking, well,

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:09.399
<v Speaker 3>how do you know that other non around people are

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<v Speaker 3>getting special treatment? Like do they just work harder than you? Huh? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the reason why I I'm so grateful for

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 3>the slack group that I'm in. I went to this.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a group of friends who are also in

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 3>the media professionals managing teams, and we started this Slack

0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 3>group and it's all people of color, and it is

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 3>where I go to vent about exactly this. Things that

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:32.200
<v Speaker 3>you can't control, like I can't you know, in your position,

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 3>walking into your boss's office and claiming that they're being

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 3>they're giving special treatment to people of other genders or

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:42.359
<v Speaker 3>other races. It's probably not going to do anything for you,

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 3>maybe the truth, but it may hurt you in your career. Yeah,

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 3>So I use this group as a sounding board. So

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<v Speaker 3>my first piece of advice is to create a little

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:52.679
<v Speaker 3>even if it's just three people, you know, four or

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 3>five people group, get a group text, get a Slack group,

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 3>get an email chain going, and just vent things out

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 3>and then ask them what they might do and get

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 3>their advice. And especially if they're people in a similar

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:06.920
<v Speaker 3>field as you, they'll have more specific guidance for someone

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 3>in your situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, honestly, I don't even have any I mean, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>share this that I was working with a brand a

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 2>little while ago and they didn't want to pay me.

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 2>They said my rates were too high, And thankfully I

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 2>knew someone who was familiar with that brand and like

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 2>work with them, And she asked them straight up, are

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:35.919
<v Speaker 2>Tiffany's rates higher than the white guys you pay with

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:39.880
<v Speaker 2>less of an audience, And there was a lot of stuttering.

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 2>They're like, no, no, has she outpriced herself from because

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 2>you know that's reasonable. And the answer was no, that

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 2>my rates were not higher than the white guys, and

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 2>I generated more buzz, more feed, like my return was larger.

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 2>So what are you saying? And sometimes it's just so

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 2>frustrating because you're just like so, I'm like, well, bro, like, honestly,

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 2>take it. Here's the thing. It's analosly. It's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the reasons why I structured my business in the way

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 2>that I have, where it's more B two C than

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 2>B to B. So B two C is a business

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 2>a consumer versus business a business, meaning like I served dreamcatchers,

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Speaker 2>I served dream builders. I serve women, largely women of color,

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 2>and that's where the majority of my income comes from.

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 2>On purpose, So when a brand tries to get cute

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 2>like brah, you hit me in my inbox. I was

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 2>always good living my best life, helping dreamcatchers live their

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 2>best life. You came to me saying, hey, want some

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:33.360
<v Speaker 2>of that black girl magic, but don't want to pay

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 2>for it. Yo, It's so frustrating, and so sometimes you're

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 2>just like because like, honestly, it's one of like you know,

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 2>we have like y'all know that we always talk about Fincon.

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 2>That's like the financial bloggers conference that me and Mandy

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 2>used to go to. And I mean, I mean, I

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 2>guess I'll still go eventually, but anyway, but I remember

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 2>just being so frustrated and listening to like our white

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 2>colleagues talk about all of the brand money and sponsorship

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 2>this and that, and they didn't even have happy audiences.

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:03.640
<v Speaker 2>And I'm just like, yo, not not even have the

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 2>engagement now, you know, it's so frustrating when you know

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 2>what it is, but god bid you should say something

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 2>that it's like you're the mad black girl. And honestly,

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't. Honestly, I don't know the solution for me.

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 2>The solution has just been for me. It just became

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 2>creating an environment for myself where I can succeed and

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 2>trying not to focus on when you know those things happen.

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 2>And honestly, these days, like I've told so many brands

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 2>to kick Rocks. I'm like, Okay, we'll go go get

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 2>such and such. Then who doesn't deliver? But you did,

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 2>but he but he wants full price, and then they

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 2>always come back, Oh it's no, You're either gonna pay

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:38.719
<v Speaker 2>or go because the truth is, I don't need it,

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, like I created a life for myself where

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you the kick Rocks, I don't need it,

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, Like it's great working with brands, but it

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 2>is not my bread and butter on purpose because you're

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 2>not going to be able to tell me what I'm worth.

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I tell you, and you either pay it or you

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 2>don't pay it. And it sucks when you're in corporate

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 2>America because you can't always do that. But like I think,

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 2>like Mandy said, have it a support group and asking

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 2>advice to people who are in that situation the circumstance,

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 2>because I feel like I'm too rebellious. I'm like that turn.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, being thirty and working for and feeling

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 3>like you're in a position where so much of your

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 3>career success is dependent on other people. That freaking sucks.

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 3>And I think a lot of people can relate to that.

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 3>I as quickly as I could, I don't think I

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 3>knew it instinctively or the reason I was pushing so

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 3>hard to advance my career so I was in a

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 3>position of authority quickly or more quickly than I might

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 3>have been if I had stayed where I was. But

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 3>I think that is what it comes down to you.

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 3>At a certain point, I just wanted to have the

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 3>power to not only to not only steer my own

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 3>destiny in my career, but also to help others and

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 3>to be in a position of power so I could

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 3>turn around and help people like you, or at least

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:51.520
<v Speaker 3>break down some of those barriers, or be an additional

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 3>person of color at the table making those decisions. But

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 3>you say, specifically, Artezia, that there's noticeable special treatment when

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 3>it comes to career development at your workplace, I would say,

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 3>as much as you can get around the barriers. So

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 3>if there's a special development career development fund that you

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 3>have access to, but you feel like your other colleagues

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 3>in the office are getting recommendation letters from people or

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 3>getting more support finding opportunities, you may have to do

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 3>the extra groundwork and just start looking for career development

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 3>opportunities for yourself outside of the organization you know I've

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 3>done that. I've done a couple of leadership development institutes

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 3>that have been super helpful for me, did not come

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.719
<v Speaker 3>from my HR team. And you know you could do that.

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 3>You could get mentors, ask specifically people in the company

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 3>to mentor you, even if they're not offering it. You know,

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 3>force them to tell you. Instead of telling yourself a

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 3>story about way why they may not be mentoring you,

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, suck it up and just ask them point blank,

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, will you mentor me? I see myself going here?

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 3>Will you give me guidance? Don't give them an opportunity,

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, to ignore you is is a bit of

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 3>advice there, And if it really is like a toxic environment,

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<v Speaker 3>do what you can to get the hell out. You're

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<v Speaker 3>only thirty, you know you can pivot. Pivot girl, pivote.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm like revolts. I'm like Mandy has very good

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<v Speaker 2>advice follow back.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, you need to get paid. You can revolt,

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<v Speaker 3>but revolt strategically, yea revolt your way out of there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if you want to launch a business, you

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<v Speaker 3>can't do that. You know on a whim. You have

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<v Speaker 3>to also plan your exit from corporate America too, So

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<v Speaker 3>take your time, hang in there, create your create your

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<v Speaker 3>own little group of support to vent to as well,

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<v Speaker 3>and thank you for your question. You guys can hit

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<v Speaker 3>us up at Brandanmission podcast dot com with your questions,

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<v Speaker 3>hit ask us anything, or email us directly at Brandanmission

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<v Speaker 3>Podcast at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Come, it's time for wins wins for Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Well we stopped doing wins though, Oh that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I don't brown Blake brown boost. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I think that I feel like earlier you said that

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<v Speaker 2>you were going to do a brown break and I

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<v Speaker 2>just thought that myself, I like, I equated that to

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<v Speaker 2>a win, and then that was like wins anyway down

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<v Speaker 2>in a bag ground break brown Bruce. But I know

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<v Speaker 2>you said you were going to do a brown boot,

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<v Speaker 2>so boost it up.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to use my boosts. My boost is the

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<v Speaker 3>Wag app for you dog owners out there, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to save my other boosts. I want to do

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<v Speaker 3>a special episode in the coming weeks on how your

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<v Speaker 3>car is making you go broke because this is something

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<v Speaker 3>that I know Tiff and I have talked about how

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<v Speaker 3>you know Superman had auto debt and wanted to like

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<v Speaker 3>buy a brand new truck or whatever, and wanted you

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<v Speaker 3>to co sign his loan. But I have statistics. We

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<v Speaker 3>recently did a study at lending Tree of auto loan

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<v Speaker 3>debt in America, and this is my theory. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like people could really have they could live debt free.

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<v Speaker 3>They could say for that vacation, they could afford anything

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<v Speaker 3>if they just paid off their car and had no

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<v Speaker 3>car note. And I've got the stats. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>share it in an episode next week. And well, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to dedicate a whole show to talking about auto

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<v Speaker 3>loans and how crazy they're, crazy, out of control they've gotten.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll okay you no, no, I love that. So honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>my win is going to be what I said earlier

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<v Speaker 2>today too, just one last chance to lock in the

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<v Speaker 2>Liberature Academy at super low rates, and so because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just really proud of it, because it's something. The truth is,

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<v Speaker 2>it's related to the question today because I honestly started

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<v Speaker 2>the Liberature Academy because I said, I want to create

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<v Speaker 2>something that's really like B two C. But then also

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<v Speaker 2>it's a business, you know, because the challenges are all free,

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<v Speaker 2>the Facebook groups, my goodie emails, we were all free

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<v Speaker 2>and they were amazing, and they still are free and amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wanted to create a business of service and

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<v Speaker 2>the Liberature Academy is my opportunity to do so. And

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<v Speaker 2>what it allows me to do is it allows me

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<v Speaker 2>to continue to give more than eighty percent of what

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<v Speaker 2>I do away for free, while still being able to

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<v Speaker 2>hire other brown women, you know, still being able to

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<v Speaker 2>like run this dope business, still being able to like

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<v Speaker 2>give so much. So yeah, if you want to be

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<v Speaker 2>a part of the Academy, And like I said, it's

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<v Speaker 2>song like ten bucks a month, under ten bucks a month,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like twenty two cents a day or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's join l r a dot com and I hope

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<v Speaker 2>to see you inside.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, go enjoy the rest of your congress

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<v Speaker 3>on the launch. Thank good luck, Thank you. They hated

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<v Speaker 3>Jersey City for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I will this was just so cute. I have to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Another win is this Airbnb, Mandy. Honestly, this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of those beautiful Brownstones. It is gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 3>You need to go to Choco Pond French Bakery. Listen

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<v Speaker 3>to me, what is my old street called? I forgot

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<v Speaker 3>what my old Jersey Avenue. It's right by the Grove

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<v Speaker 3>Street station. Anyone listening in Jersey you can go. Also

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<v Speaker 3>does that Brandon Bishon listener I saw on the train

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<v Speaker 3>that day. You should go Chaco Pon, the best Croissan,

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<v Speaker 3>the best French pastry, the best coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>Go okay, show all right until next week.