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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with our radio. Hello. Everyone, welcome to a two episode week.

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Speaker 1: Here at the Almost Famous Podcast. We are celebrating Michelle

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Speaker 1: Young's season. Of course, we'll be having her on the

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Speaker 1: show tomorrow and she's gonna break down the first episode

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Speaker 1: with us. But today we have a very special guest,

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Speaker 1: Becca and Thomas too, wonderful people who have been a

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Speaker 1: success story of this season's Bachelor in Paradise. We've got

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Speaker 1: Thomas and Becca and they're sitting here right with me

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Speaker 1: right now, So welcome to the to the podcast. Hello. Becka.

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Speaker 1: On Thomas, actually, would you consider a success story if

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Speaker 1: I broke up with him on the beach that last day? Yes?

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Speaker 1: That leads me to my first question. I know you

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Speaker 1: had to do that. Okay, I was there. I've been

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Speaker 1: through this for and they made me go through it

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Speaker 1: in the way that Thomas went through, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh wait a second, this makes no sense. This is

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Speaker 1: the first time on this show I feel like I

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Speaker 1: feel like I see right through you. So explain to me, Becca, honestly,

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Speaker 1: as honestly as you can, what really happened when you

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Speaker 1: had to sit him down that day well, okay, So

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Speaker 1: what the interesting part is is those last what would

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Speaker 1: you say, two or three days leading up to the

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Speaker 1: actual breakup, we didn't see each other at all. They

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Speaker 1: had us completely split up. And so the day that

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Speaker 1: Dean and Calem came down and we're like, hey, there,

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Speaker 1: I said over, are you either going to the Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Suits or you break up? I was in this mindset

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Speaker 1: where I was like, I haven't seen this guy for

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Speaker 1: a couple of days. We haven't really been able to

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Speaker 1: have any conversation other than saying yes to a rose

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Speaker 1: at the last Rose ceremony, and I was and I

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Speaker 1: was very adamant the entire time of like, I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to leave the show for a third time with

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Speaker 1: somebody if I don't fully know them, because I felt

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Speaker 1: like I did that in the past, and then I

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Speaker 1: got into the real world I got to know somebody

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Speaker 1: in a completely different light. And so that last day

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Speaker 1: I was kind of on the fence of like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I still I'm into him, but my head is made

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Speaker 1: ready to go into the fantasy suitets with him. And

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Speaker 1: it wasn't until the last moments where he was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to leave plenty what if like fight

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Speaker 1: for us, to fight for this relationship where I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: maybe I am making a mistake here, But at that

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Speaker 1: point it was like too little and you know how

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Speaker 1: fast everything happens because they have to go through the breakups,

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Speaker 1: then they have to go through people being like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's go to the Fantasy sweets. So it's like boom

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Speaker 1: boom boom. So he left with then right away. When

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Speaker 1: I got my phone back the next day, I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna just next Thomas and Sufi still wants to talk.

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Speaker 1: So um. I think like, had we had more time

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Speaker 1: in those last few days, the decision would have been

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Speaker 1: different and probably would have said, hey, let's leave the

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Speaker 1: beach and date, you know, not getting engaged, not go

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Speaker 1: to the fantasy suits, but still date. But because stations

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Speaker 1: for a while, I just like, I was like, I

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Speaker 1: can't do this a third time. So I kind of

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Speaker 1: just panicked internally. Interesting, Okay, but I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: why didn't you feel like you could just say let's

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Speaker 1: go off and date. We obviously aren't at the point

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Speaker 1: to have overnights or anything like this, but I'd still

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Speaker 1: like to talk to you in the real world. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which I'm looking back now, I should have. I think

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Speaker 1: the main thing for me though, was the entire time

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Speaker 1: that we were on the beach together. It was smooth sailing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we really had no issues whatsoever, which freaked

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Speaker 1: me out because I was like, in a real relationship,

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Speaker 1: we need to of arguments, and I need to see

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Speaker 1: how you react when we're fighting or when things aren't

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Speaker 1: going your way. And I just thought like, for and

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Speaker 1: I will say this because I know people have said

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Speaker 1: like Thomas seems so well spoken and kind of scripted

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Speaker 1: So when I was saying Thomas seems too good to

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Speaker 1: I was putting on this positive, brave face, but I

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Speaker 1: I was like, I can't be all in and be

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Speaker 1: like the private way, because public as the show was

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Speaker 1: Aaron and I really got to know him for him

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Speaker 1: and fell for him, I would say, but I'm until

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Speaker 1: that point I felt like I was only I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm only getting like part of him, Like what am

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Speaker 1: I missing? And I got in a fight with my

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Speaker 1: producer at one point because I was like, I feel

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Speaker 1: see this man who basically I'm living with on the beach.

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Speaker 1: But then because I was also watching the episodes back

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Speaker 1: doing my podcast, but then I see this villain edit

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Speaker 1: whoeveryone's on the shell, Like what is it? What am

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Speaker 1: I missing? Worse than disconnect here, which really messed with

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Speaker 1: my mind. So Thomas, I have a question for you then,

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Speaker 1: because obviously we get paid on this podcast to have

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Speaker 1: an opinion. Oftentimes our opinion is just based on what

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Speaker 1: we see on television. You had a line this season

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Speaker 1: in paradise that I told Ashley on this podcast that

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Speaker 1: don't even know if you meant to it, um, but

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Speaker 1: I think he told Anna. I believe it was Anna.

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Speaker 1: He said, Hey, this is paradise, a place for redemption,

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Speaker 1: Like it's a place to create your redemption story. And

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Speaker 1: I really felt like you did that here right, Like

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Speaker 1: obviously Becca is one of the women in this world

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Speaker 1: Um just from a distance, but um, she's just an

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Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, what's going on here Ashley? And

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Speaker 1: I also I do want to give us some credit

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Speaker 1: even after your time on the Bachelor. At we're we

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Speaker 1: kind of defended you, like we we said, hey, I

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Speaker 1: my question comes you have now been criticized on The

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Speaker 1: to know you, feeling like there's something hiding. Then Becca

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Speaker 1: you defend where that comes from? Like why do you

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Speaker 1: think that is how you come off to people? Is

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Speaker 1: like everything's put together? Um? And what would you say

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Speaker 1: that now after Paradise? So what I'd say is that's

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Speaker 1: something that's been something that's followed me historically. If we

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Speaker 1: over ten years now, that's just who I am. And

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Speaker 1: mind never something that was you know, serious as like

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00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,959
Speaker 1: a relationship would go. Um, and so like for me

431
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: now it's like we all kind of know what goes

432
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 1: on and who's dating who, and so in my mind

433
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, if I don't if like

434
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 1: I just I guess I would to talk about somebody

435
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: as much or you know, like the per focused on

436
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 1: somebody in a relationship, if that makes sense. Um. Yeah,

437
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: So it was strange, you know, that comfortable because he

438
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 1: knew when he hadn't even said, like he's like, I

439
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 1: know you're in a relationship and you're probably trying to

440
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 1: protect something with Thomas. But yeah, I mean it was good.

441
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it's ever you know, again, it's just

442
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 1: communication between men and women and between the two of us.

443
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: But I will always wishing the best and support him.

444
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 1: We went to a show and Katie and I were

445
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: up on stage with him, and so yeah, it's I

446
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 1: think we'll always be cordial with each other in supportive.

447
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: Obviously we're gonna be at Ben's wedding together, so yeah,

448
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm glad you guys to settle like I saw each

449
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: other before my wedding. I was selfishly, I'm very happy

450
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 1: this happened this last weekend. You know, Nick and Caitlin

451
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 1: did the same thing before our wedding, and we were

452
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: also very grateful for it. I'm like, this is great

453
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: you guys. You guys hash this out. Um, well, I

454
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,479
Speaker 1: do want to just hear from the two of you then,

455
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: because obviously, you know, you both went on the paradise

456
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: probably definitely with different stories, different intentions, and you know, um,

457
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 1: now you sit here today on this podcast together, you're

458
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: holding each other's legs, and you look really cute and

459
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,959
Speaker 1: good looking couple. Um, how does it feel like? How

460
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: are you doing? How does this feel? Um? Where does

461
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 1: where does this go? You wanta take it away? I'd

462
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: say the most remarkable thing of all of it. It

463
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: feels normal. It feels not like any other version of

464
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: like a happy life should or imagine it would feel.

465
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: And we wake up and we we take our dogs

466
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: out and we drink coffee and we talked about what

467
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: we need to do for the day, and it's so boring.

468
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: We support each other through that dinner together and we

469
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: It's just it's just the most simple, easy, beautiful thing

470
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 1: that I could ask for. And I feel like when

471
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 1: you find the right person, that's what it feels like.

472
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's been I'm speaking for myself here,

473
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: it's just been nothing short of everything I could have

474
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: asked for. Yeah, it's uh. And maybe you I don't

475
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: know if you can agree with this statement or not,

476
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: but coming from the show and coming because then you

477
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: obviously got engaged on your season, did you ever feel

478
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: like there was some sort of pressure around that because

479
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: you've got engaged on the ship, and so I think

480
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: in the past relationships that you know, that was always

481
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: a lingering feeling. I would say for me personally, now

482
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: the first time where I don't feel that pressure. And

483
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: that was the beautiful thing about how we could start

484
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: our relationship was on all terms. After the show, away

485
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: from the cameras, we could have the conversations, and one

486
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: thing that I told him is I was like, we

487
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: can we can take this slow and you can get

488
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 1: to know me for me and see if I'm actually

489
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: somebody that fits in your life and that you're compatible

490
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: with and want to be with no pressure and if

491
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: it doesn't work out between us, we can hopefully stay

492
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: friends and have this school, weird, unique story behind us.

493
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: But now I just feel like every day I wake

494
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: up excited, but in a way where there's no pressure,

495
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: in a way where we can just live our lives.

496
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: And when I say like we're boring, we really do.

497
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: Just you know, we wake up, walk the dogs, we

498
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: get our work done, we go grow You're shopping nothing

499
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: like wild and crazy and overly exciting, But to me,

500
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: it's exciting because it's with him, And this is the

501
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: first time where I just feel and I hate can

502
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: see the word content, but I just feel content, happy,

503
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: and like he's just like my calm place, and I've

504
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 1: never felt like before. That's so sweet. Yeah, you're well, Hey,

505
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: Ashley and I can both attest to being boring. Also, guys,

506
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean you were on stage at the concert last weekend. Um,

507
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: I haven't done anything like that a lot. I raked

508
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: my leaves yesterday and that was the thing I was

509
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: most proud of. So we we get it here, Oh

510
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: we yeah, we love we love the content nous. You

511
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: guys said you said recently, Becca that you told your

512
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: mom I see myself marrying this man, how is it

513
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: different now than it was well, the previous two engagements. Yeah. Again,

514
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: I think it's just on our own terms, no pressure,

515
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 1: um I. And this is actually something too that I

516
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: said on the show that they would never air. I

517
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: know that they would never include this, but I think

518
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: it was on our first one on one day, I

519
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: told Thomas, I'm like, I want a partner, but I

520
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: don't know if marriage is for me, um And I

521
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: think that was just because I didn't find somebody that

522
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: I was all in ready to commit to fully. Like. Yes,

523
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: I was engaged in the past, and I was invested

524
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: in those relationships. I don't want to downplay those. I

525
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: would say maybe the first one doesn't count as much,

526
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: but after my time, I'm about Surette definitely invested. But

527
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: it just never felt fully right. And so that's why

528
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: you know, there was never a wedding, there was never

529
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: anything planned. And he's the first guy that I've been like,

530
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: I can't picture my life without him. I want to

531
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: do every day with him, boring or not. I want

532
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: him to be by my side, and I want to

533
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: invest and commit and and it just it just it's

534
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: the first one that like really feels right, like really

535
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: feels like this could be it. You know, you've you've

536
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: mentioned it a few times, and I was just sitting

537
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: here trying to think of you know, the pressure is

538
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: a true thing. But you know, I was thinking, Okay,

539
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: I want to make sure I understand exactly like in

540
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: my relationships when I don't feel the pressure good or

541
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: batter and different. And I really only felt pressure when

542
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: things were going poorly or when I knew it wasn't healthy,

543
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: or when I knew this wasn't right for both parties involved,

544
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: like that both of us probably should be out of this.

545
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: We're not our best versions of ourselves were not content

546
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: the boring things aren't just boring their burdens um and

547
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: every day felt like a tougher day. And that's when

548
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: the pressure started to feel. But like in my relationship now,

549
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: like contentment, I would say, is at the surface. I

550
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: just told just this week, like I'm almost upset that

551
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: I don't feel more anxiousness towards the wedding or nerves,

552
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: Like I just feel good about it, like peaceful about it,

553
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: Like I just feel excited that I'm marrying somebody that

554
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: I love and that I don't feel pressure to marry her.

555
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: In fact, it's just a decision I want to make.

556
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: And so I think that's like it's like a magical,

557
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 1: really beautiful thing you're saying is like the lack of pressure.

558
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: Probably only happens, I would assume when things aren't going well,

559
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: because then you feel like you gotta stick it out

560
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: and there's no way out. So yeah, that's a good

561
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: that's that's I don't know, I appreciate you saying that.

562
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of cool. Um, you are kind

563
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: of like the second version of what's happened with Caitlin.

564
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: You know, she was fully committed in a relationship for

565
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: three years after being the lead, and now, look, you're

566
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: it's very very similar end up with somebody from a

567
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: different season and you were a lead, And I think

568
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: it's cool. Yeah, And that's I mean, and I loveit.

569
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: And she and she was really great and helps me

570
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: through the break up because she was a past lead

571
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: that was with her partner for a few years. It

572
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: wasn't break up. She really did give it her all

573
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: and so like going through that breakup, she helped me

574
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: tremendously and even now just bonding with her over and

575
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: we left about it now because she was on Katie

576
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: season host invitation, got to know the guys, and I

577
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: think she told Tea before coming on to Paradise, like

578
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: watch out for two guys, watch out for Thomas, watch

579
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: out for Erin and talking about that now. But yeah,

580
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: it's it's it's nice to see other examples of relationships

581
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: come from the show that aren't the conventional way or

582
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: quote unquote like the right way of how things should

583
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: have been done. But you still meet people in different

584
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: avenues at different events or whatever. It might be part

585
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: of vatination. Um, and that was very adamant. I was like,

586
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to date anyone else from the show, really,

587
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to have another public relationship. And I

588
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: mean here I am months later, but um, but yeah,

589
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: so she's been great to see and I would just

590
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: hope that I know it's because so many contestants come

591
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: from the show, and um, I think hopefully it can

592
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: be a good thing for people to see someone in

593
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: Thomas's position, who really got the short end of the

594
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: stick and had a terrible the first time around, to

595
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: still be open to finding somebody and whether it's with

596
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: a friendship or an actual partner from the show in

597
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: the franchise. Um, I think it's just gonna be nice

598
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: for other people to see him and be like, Okay,

599
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: you know he hadn't really go, but but it could

600
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: still turn around. You never know. Yeah, Ben, about the

601
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: conversation with hand. Of conversation was in the quote it

602
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: was your past experiences don't define you here, and oh

603
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: that was true first hand at the beach of my

604
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: relationship with everyone who I had the time within New Mexico.

605
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: And then that's just as true in life. And that's

606
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: that's something that I'm glad she got to have that

607
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: experienced just as well to anybody else. And I'm seeing

608
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: that playout first hand. Yere meet exact scenario. Becker just

609
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: went over, well, Thomas, if I filled out a jacket

610
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: the way you do, I've been seen on Paradise also

611
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: just to show off the arms, but I never went.

612
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: There's a reason why because I have a hard time

613
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: with even a small T shirt. So, um, if you

614
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: have a beauty in a couple of weeks coming up,

615
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: that's right, man, I'm so pumped. I'm getting really excited.

616
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: Planning is planning is done. It's time to celebrate for

617
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: a lot of the couples we get to see there

618
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: their first I love yous on the show, but we

619
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: didn't get to do that with you. So can you

620
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: tell us about how that moment went down? Do you

621
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: want me to tell me? If you want to tell it,

622
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: I'll tell the first part you free him home? Yeah, okay, okay.

623
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: So the first one that started in phase if there

624
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: was I'm falling in love with you initially, and that

625
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: was I went up to see her in l A

626
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: and I walked through the door and I'm surprised with

627
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: the most elaborate blanket for assembled in the middle of

628
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: her living and it was just incredible. So we spent

629
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: that night in a blanket for eating snacks, playing games.

630
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: I looked over and I'm like, I'm falling in love

631
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: with you. You know, you have the feeling long before

632
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: you have the words to express it. And it was

633
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: something I spelt continuing to bubble up me, bubble up

634
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: in me. And then a week and half, two weeks later,

635
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: we're here making dinner in San Diego. Yeah, we were

636
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: just hanging out and he we were just sitting on

637
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: his back balcony in front of the fire, drinking wine,

638
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: talking and like you know when you just have word

639
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: vomit and you're like, oh, it's gonna spill out of me,

640
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: but I kind of want to keep I was trying

641
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: to keep it in for a while and then all

642
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: of the stollen, I just looked at him and what

643
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: did I say. I was like, you know what, I

644
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: think I'm falling in love with you, Thomas. And then

645
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: right away you said it back, or you were like,

646
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: I know you are something. But I was trying to

647
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: hold it in for so long and has popped out. Obviously,

648
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: thankfully he reciprocated it, because it could be gotten real awkward.

649
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: But I think we just both felt it and we

650
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: both knew and yeah, it was really it was one

651
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: of those moments leading into it. We were about to

652
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: staring at each other, giggling like little little school children,

653
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: and it was just like I love you. Yeah, you

654
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: mentioned l A and San Diego. I have to assume

655
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: that the fact that you guys are so close geographically

656
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: has really helped build the relationship. Yeah. Yeah, I think

657
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: we really looked out in that department where because obviously

658
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 1: everyone from the show was from all over the country

659
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: or from Canada, and uh, it actually was one of

660
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: our first conversations that kind of bonded us because I

661
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: found what he lived in San Diego. I was like, oh,

662
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: I used to live in that area. So we talked

663
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: about our favorite restaurants and wine bars and coffee shops. Um.

664
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: But it's been nice because it's only about a two

665
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: and a half hour drive without traffic on a good day.

666
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 1: It's kind of fun um because yeah, well we spend

667
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: what would you say percent of our time together, ninety

668
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: percent of our time together, and so it's it's fun

669
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: because we both have home bases in the cities. But

670
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: then it's like a little road trip back and forth.

671
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: And he, I know, would like me to already be

672
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,959
Speaker 1: living in San Diego, but I just bought a house,

673
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: so I gotta gotta say, but it's it's an adventure.

674
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's so nice if he's close. I can't

675
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 1: imagine having to fly back in fourth places. It would

676
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: just be too tough. We had the proximity which allowed

677
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: us to spend the nights of the time together with

678
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: with each other, and more important, we had that time

679
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: together away from the cameras, having to be indoors, having

680
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: to have or just intimate one on one time. That

681
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: to me, I feel like it was the biggest thing

682
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: we could have had to start a relationship, because at

683
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: that point, it's all right, we just spent three and

684
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: a half months confined in our homes with nothing but

685
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: each other to keep us distracted. And that's Ill, someone

686
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: who we continue to fall in love with deeper and

687
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: deeper each day. And I mean like building a foundation

688
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 1: on a pillar of stone instead of sand in that way.

689
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: And now we have to go explore. It costs want

690
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: to go grocery shopping in exactly. And then and then

691
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: for us, like what we saw this with we have

692
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: that deep lovel contentment in the normal quote unquote simple things,

693
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: and that was heavily attributed to us having that first

694
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: three and a a half months just being able to be

695
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: close and spend time each other's homes. I don't know

696
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: how in the world do you hide, Thomas, I don't

697
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: know how. Like there's some people in this franchise that

698
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: you can sneak in with a mustache and a backwards

699
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: hat and sunglasses, But fella, that's not easy to sneak

700
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: you around. Y Yeah, really go to public Besides, we

701
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: would take the dogs on walks and go to parks,

702
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: and I could tell when he would get spotted. You know,

703
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: you always see some gas and so I would just

704
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: always beloinded away so they didn't see me. And then

705
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: he gets stopped and it would look, you know, look

706
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: like he was alone. But it's funny because and then

707
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: you probably get this all the time because you're a

708
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: tall guy when you're walking through the airport or the

709
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: grocery store and people orcognize you. It's like and it's

710
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: just reactions to him, Yeah, you don't hide, we don't hide. Well, um,

711
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: but that's okay. Hey, so it's fine. Um, Actually anything else. Oh,

712
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say if I could, do you

713
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: have any regrets now buying the house? Because you look

714
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: for a whole year for a house, basically you said

715
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: on Instagram and now you're like, oh, man, do I

716
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: want to be stuck in l A Or do I

717
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: want to be in San Diego? You know what? Um,

718
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: a little bit, But I'm so still proud of myself

719
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: that I was able to find one and just do

720
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: it on my own and worst case scenario, I'll just

721
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: still keep it for a while and use it as

722
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: an investment or a rental property. Um, but yeah, it's

723
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not that. I mean, it was not ideal,

724
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna make actually good story because the day

725
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: I officially closed on the house was the last day

726
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: of Paradise. So I got back to the hotel because

727
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: I just broke up with him and I I then

728
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: re credited that and I was like, oh man, I

729
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: have these one. So I'm sobbing all on the bed.

730
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: And my one of my best friends, who is also

731
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: as the producer, also used the same realtor and lender

732
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: that I used. I bought all these texting calls in

733
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: from them, and she was like, fat guy, I know

734
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 1: your chad right now, but you just close down your home.

735
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: Like yeah, now we know why you You're in a

736
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: rush out of here. This all makes sense now. Beca

737
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: is like I closed at a house in two hours. Thomas,

738
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, dude, this isn't gonna make sense, but I'm out, Like,

739
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: we'll talk later. We'll figure this out in a couple

740
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: of hours. Hey, you two are great. Thanks for joining

741
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: us today. We really appreciate you coming on the Almost

742
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: Famous podcast. Best of luck to both of you. Thanks

743
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: for sharing your story. Thanks so much what a really

744
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: happy couple. I mean that that is something special. And

745
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: I know people still have their reservations about Thomas Um,

746
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: but you know, I am protective of Becca because I

747
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: got to spend so much time with her and I

748
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 1: know what her heart desires. And it feels like I mean, Ashley,

749
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm crazy, it just feels like they're good.

750
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: Like no pressure on them, but it just feels like

751
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: they're good. I know, I feel really good about them.

752
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see where the year takes them. And uh, well,

753
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: it's now time for one of our favorite parts with

754
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: our resident expert, Ashley I ken Eddie breaking down all

755
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: the headlines and bachelor in Bachelor Nation. Here we go.

756
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: First headline is this. This is a cute one Bachelor

757
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: Paradise is Noah crashes car into house while kissing Abigail. This,

758
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: according to Eat, this is crazy. I heard about this

759
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. So on Thursday, October four,

760
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: Noah got on his Instagram stories and he described what

761
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: happened that night. He goes, just took Abigail out to

762
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: a nice dinner and we're enjoying ourselves. Incredible experience. Food

763
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 1: was great, we hopped in the car. We start listening

764
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: to Annie of all things, the sun will come out,

765
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: tomorrow comes on, it starts raining. The mood is getting right.

766
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: We get to my house. I stopped the car. I

767
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 1: look at Abigail and I think, dang, she looks really pretty.

768
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: So I start kissing her. And it turns out I

769
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: never put the car in park and I rolled right

770
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: through my grass and hit my house. He says, it is.

771
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: It's very cute, genuinely small little kiss turned into me

772
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: hitting the house. I've never done that before. I wouldn't

773
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: think I'd ever do that. It's absurd, But here I

774
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: am letting all the things go into shambles for a

775
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: little bit of love, which is adorable. I wonder if

776
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: there was actual damage to the house. There's a little tap. Yeah,

777
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, a car part going into the siding

778
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: will definitely cast some issues. But what a story to

779
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: joke about one day later on Guess his foot wasn't

780
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: on the gas. Well that's that's even better. Yeah, that

781
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: would cost names. Well. Hey. Madison Pruett revisits Tints Peter

782
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: Weber after the Final Rose and new book. She's a

783
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: new book coming out. If you didn't know this. Has

784
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: she spoken to the bachelor? The headline questions this. According

785
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: to US Weekly, Okay, so, she says that the pair,

786
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: the two of them have multily have mutual friends, but

787
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: they have had no direct contact. She says, through mutual friends,

788
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: there have been conversations circulating. We have not seen each

789
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: other since the finale. We don't talk or anything like that.

790
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: I have nothing but the best to say about him.

791
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: I think he's an incredible guy. And everyone goes off

792
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: of what they see on an edit on a TV screen,

793
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: but people have to remember that every single one of

794
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: us are human beings and things can be depicted in

795
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: a certain way, but we have real feelings. Blah blah,

796
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: blah blah. They haven't seen each other, they have not talked. Yeah,

797
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: a long story, sure, they haven't. Talke about her new

798
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: book is coming out. Well. Michelle Young teases three guys

799
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: fans should keep their eyes on ahead of Bachelorette premiere.

800
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: This according to ET Okay, Yeah, so e T says

801
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: these are the guys that we need to look out for.

802
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: Clayton who apparently he's a sweetheart and is the new bachelor.

803
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: So of course we have our eye on him. Rod

804
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: Wait time out? Can I pause you? There? Isn't it

805
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: weird that, like the show hasn't officially announced Clayton as

806
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: their bachelor, like yet Jesse Palmer post a picture with

807
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: him on Instagram. Thank you? So weird? I was like,

808
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: is this the official announcement? Did I not see it?

809
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: Very odd? Very very odd? Okay, So then we apparently

810
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: need to look out for Rodney and Jamie who left

811
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: a very memory dorble first impression and was oh Michelle's

812
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: first one on one. Okay, So Rodney, Clayton and Katie

813
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: Thurston fires back at social media speculation about Blake Moyne's

814
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: engagement disuccording to US Weekly, Okay, so there are people saying,

815
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 1: are you okay? Is it okay? You guys aren't liking

816
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: each other's posts. Oh, they're not liking each other's post

817
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: that okay? Now what a second? This is this stupid?

818
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: I think that that is actually a little weird. You

819
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: don't have to comment under each post, but you're not

820
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: gonna like each post? You don't. You're telling me I

821
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: don't like everyone of Jessica's not on purpose, Like you're

822
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: doing a great job, sweetie. No, I sure it is,

823
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: but like, I'm not on my phone that much, and

824
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: so if she posts on social media, I don't see it,

825
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: Like I don't go back through and like, look at

826
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: all the pictures she posted. I just like, it's not

827
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: like if I saw one of hers, of course I

828
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: would like it, I'd probably comment, But often times I

829
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: don't even see half the stuff she's posting because I'm

830
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: just not on it, Okay. And if he's in Africa, like,

831
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: that's the real different, yeah, because he's probably posting twelve

832
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: hours before she's actually getting on her phone. So in

833
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: those twelve hours and vice versa, fans are like, oh,

834
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: they haven't liked that picture yet, Well, yeah, because the

835
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: time change. But anyway, this is what Katie said. She says,

836
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: imagine your fiance has been on his stories for weeks

837
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: in Kenya, working his butt off, and yet this is

838
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: what people notice. She goes. But liking posts equal to love?

839
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: I thought, Um, that's that's what a Twitter Twitter person said.

840
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: Liking posts equals to love, I thought, And then she said,

841
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: I guess that's love one all right. So you know,

842
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: if you want to really like get into this with

843
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: Bachelor passer Nation world like Kaylin and Dean. They don't

844
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 1: even like follow each other. Yeah, everybody's silly. Everbody silly.

845
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: Come on, if they're together, they're together. If they're not,

846
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: to let us know and we'll be the first to

847
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: announce it. Well. Hey uh. Caitlin Bristow and Tatia Adams

848
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: react to Jesse Palmer being named host of The Bachelor.

849
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: This Corney et M so so our friend Lauren Zima.

850
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 1: She spoke to both the girls, and this was what

851
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: Caitlin said. I think it makes sense to have women

852
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: around the bachelorette and men around for the Bachelor, just

853
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: to be supportive. He's been the Bachelor, we've been bachelorette.

854
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: It's kind of nice to have that perspective. I'm here

855
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: to validate your feelings or what you're going through, you know.

856
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: I think it brings a whole new perspective perception to

857
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 1: the Bachelor and the Bachelorette. That's a Tastia said. She said,

858
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Speaker 1: I think with Jesse we might be able to bring

859
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: it back to how the franchise used to be. Um,

860
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: he can give some pretty good pointers. I'm excited for him. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think it's good for Jesse to come on there

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Speaker 1: you go. Well we got our I think they're called

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Speaker 1: host now I get confused. Our host Caitlin Bristol and

864
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Speaker 1: Tatia Adams of The Bachelorette comedy on Jesse Palmber. That's

865
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Speaker 1: all the headlines we have for you today. Um, super thankful,

866
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: uh for all of these headlines and all the madness

867
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: the Bachelor is in the Bachelor world is creating. Well, hey,

868
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: let's take a break here and we come back. We're

869
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Speaker 1: gonna have Alexis the winner of our Bachelor in Paradise

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Speaker 1: bracket league. Al Right, guys, we are joined right now

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Speaker 1: by our Bachelor in Paradise bracket winner or league or

872
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Speaker 1: league winner. She got the most answers right every single week.

873
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: So Alexis, congratulations on being a Bachelor fanatic. Thanks, I'm

874
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: proudly am one. Are you a fan of the podcast to? Yeah?

875
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: So I started watching The Bachelor during Ben's season with

876
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: one of my really good friends MIXI in college. We

877
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: were u in the in our program that we were

878
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: in in school, like every but he watched it and

879
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: so we're like, well, let's give it a shot then.

880
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: Ever since then, yeah, I've been pretty die hard about it.

881
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: Amazing who's your favorite couple to come out of the

882
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: franchise And you don't have to name me? Um, you

883
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: don't have to, but other than me, how conceded? Is

884
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 1: that so silly? Yeah? I'm really enjoying um Katie and Blake.

885
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 1: I felt like it was like good, a good match.

886
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: So thinking although there's been some things that have been

887
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: I don't know going on. I guess people are like

888
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Speaker 1: concerned that he's not commenting on our stuff even though

889
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: he's in Africa. Yeah. I think I don't know, we're

890
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: not reading too far into that here, Like we're like

891
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: he's an Africa, Like, give the guy a break. He

892
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: doesn't need to be on social media right now. Yeah. Yeah,

893
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: it's silly to feel any pressure to right under every

894
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: one of your significant other pictures on Instagram. Who were

895
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: you already for this Paradise season? Oh well, definitely Joe

896
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: and Serena It Yeah, they were just so cute. But um,

897
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: I during um Riley and Marissa's engagement, I guess it

898
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: was prior like the Fantasy Suite. I thought, just being

899
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: so like open with his feelings and so genuine and

900
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: the whole Sunday morning thing was just like so cute.

901
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: So those are my my two couples. You know, obviously

902
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: you're the first inaugural winner of our almost famous Bachelor bracket,

903
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: and many people out there listening right now are wondering

904
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: what was your strategy, Like, how did how when you

905
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: went into every week, how did you pick your people?

906
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Speaker 1: What did you think through? Share some insight? Yeah, I

907
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: would rewatch the previews like a bunch of times, and

908
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: I didn't want to forget my like to pick my people.

909
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: So I had watched right out there the episode I

910
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: would make. I would pick my team. And then um,

911
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: there's actually this YouTube channel Bachelor Fantake, and I like,

912
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: I feel like you should be part of the FBI

913
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 1: or something because he will take the whatever one minute

914
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Speaker 1: preview and turn it into like a fifteen minute video

915
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: and he like super analyzes everything, and so I would

916
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: rewatch that that would help me pick my team. Okay, well,

917
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Speaker 1: alexis that begs the question that we bring up every week?

918
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Speaker 1: Did you see Marissa kissing Tamar? No? I didn't, which

919
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,959
Speaker 1: I was yeah, whenever I want to see that clip.

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00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: I haven't looked it up yet, but when you guys

921
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: mentioned it the first time, I remember seeing them on

922
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Speaker 1: the couch. But I don't remember that, and I was

923
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: really surprised that I didn't catch it, So I don't know.

924
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: I gotta I got a direct message this week that

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Speaker 1: explained the video. Somebody did an FBI type investigation and

926
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Speaker 1: I guess it was really good editing, so it was

927
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: like meant to be seen like that, but said it

928
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Speaker 1: was the weird angles and it wasn't themar and that

929
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Speaker 1: was good editing. I'm going to believe it even though

930
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Speaker 1: I watched it. I'm like, I don't know how they

931
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Speaker 1: did that, but um, I mean, it feels like we're

932
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Speaker 1: the only one super super engaged in this conversation, so

933
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Speaker 1: that that d M made sense to me. Now, Alexis

934
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Speaker 1: we had I don't know how many. I think we

935
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Speaker 1: had close to maybe over two thousand people joined this bracket.

936
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Speaker 1: How does it feel to be the winner? Like? Do

937
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Speaker 1: you win a lot of things in your life? Honestly,

938
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Speaker 1: I consider myself to be a pretty lucky person. Um,

939
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Speaker 1: but I think I'm more just competitive, and especially when

940
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Speaker 1: it's like the end goal is something that I actually want,

941
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Speaker 1: you know, So, um we I've done a fantasy league before.

942
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Speaker 1: My best friend April we've done one just like by ourselves. Um.

943
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Speaker 1: And so this was the first time that I've ever

944
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Speaker 1: done batch Bracket. Actually it was the second time I

945
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: did it for Tassias season. But it was kind of hard, um,

946
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Speaker 1: But I felt like it was a lot more fun

947
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: because there's so many things that you can get points for. Um.

948
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Speaker 1: Because Paradise is just so unpredictable. You know. Well, Alexa,

949
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 1: you're a winner, and so is your cat. You guys,

950
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: we've been able to watch her cat be just all

951
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 1: love EBB up on her and he's he or she's

952
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: perfect for Halloween. He looks like Salem. Yeah, Alexis, your

953
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: cat is is a superstar. I mean even even decided

954
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: to take a bath on screen. That's pretty impressive. That's

955
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: something that a lot of people aren't familiar with doing.

956
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: No shame, No shame at all, Alexis, Are you gonna

957
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: play in the almost famous Season two Bachelor at Brackett?

958
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: Of course I'm hooked now I have to. Yeah, it

959
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: was kind of interesting. I'd see how many people like

960
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: joined the league, and it kept going up the whole time,

961
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Speaker 1: So no matter what, people kept wanting to join, and

962
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 1: I was I think what motivated me to keep going

963
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: was that I was tied for first with one other person.

964
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Speaker 1: For me, I'm and I have to have to win.

965
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Speaker 1: So well, Alexas, thanks for playing, and thanks for coming

966
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Speaker 1: on to say hey, we appreciate it, and we appreciate

967
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: your listenership. You're so sweet, and we will see you

968
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: on the bracket. I bet we see you back here

969
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: at some point I could see I could see a

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00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: two pee out of Alexis in the next couple of seasons. Yeah.

971
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: I wonder if I'm gonna like eventually just become part

972
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Speaker 1: of Bachelor Nation. Let's let's make it happen on my

973
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: own podcast. I've actually met you both before, well in

974
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: a way. Um, Ashley, you made a cameo with Jared

975
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Speaker 1: for my best friend's birthday. Um. And then I went

976
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Speaker 1: to We and the same best friend, April, we went

977
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Speaker 1: to a Bachelor Live on stage in Portland's and did

978
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: like sweet experience. How was that? Did you enjoy it? Oh? Yeah,

979
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Speaker 1: we went. I mean, like I said, like, we're big fans,

980
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: and I'm April is also like an incredible fan more

981
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: than me. I'm surright she didn't. If she would have

982
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: done the bracket, she would have won, so maybe she'll

983
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: be my competition for the next season. Yeah, well I uh,

984
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: Jessica is at that show. Portland's one of our favorite spots.

985
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: Thanks for saying hi again. It's it's it's good to

986
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: see you. There's a lot of people on that tour um,

987
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: but it's nice to have you back. So Alexis, uh,

988
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: thank you. Uh, and we will be chatting again, I

989
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: bet very soon. That's my guest. Well, it's great to

990
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: have Alexis on the podcast. I have a feeling we'll

991
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: be hearing from her again. What a great episode. Uh,

992
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: Thomas and Becca. I mean, we'll post some clips, but

993
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: they were just like holding on to each other the

994
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: whole time. It seems like they're they're doing really well.

995
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: It's really cool something the celebrate. Well, hey, uh, we'll

996
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: talk to you again tomorrow. Uh. Breaking down this week's

997
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: episode of the Bachelorette with the Bachelor atte Michelle Young.

998
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: It's gonna be awesome, It's gonna be incredible. But until then,

999
00:53:54,480 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: I've been been follow the Benn and Ashley I All

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Speaker 1: Most Famous podcast on I Heart Radio or subscribe wherever

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