1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle U. Jaguars. Senior writer John Osher, NFL 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: Network analyst and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter J. P. 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Shadwick bring you the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars. 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now. 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 3: Welcome into another edition of Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 3: Podcast version. 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, March eighteenth. JP Shadwick with John Oser. 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: We're at the Miller Electric Center at the Hyundai Studios. 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks with us in Los Angeles, a day after 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: Saint Patrick's Day. Happy belated Saint Patrick's Day, John and Bucky. 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 4: I mean, look happy, happy, happy green beer day. Sure, 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 4: I'm sure you guys consume plenty of green beer. Got 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 4: pins had your little shamrocks and Lucky clovers and all 14 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 4: that leprechauns running around. 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 5: I hate I missed out. I hate I missed out. 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 6: I did not have a green beer. I had a Guinness, 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 6: and I actually I was out. 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 7: I guess Saturday night and a buddy might have seen 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 7: in a long time. He's in a band. He said, 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 7: I'm playing. I'm playing Saint Patrick's Day over it. Think 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 7: Cole haynes On Tuesday. I'm not gonna. 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: Go, right, you go any any Irish establishment on St. 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 2: Patrick's Day. It is bedlam. 24 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 7: Absolutely, I'm fine with it. I'm glad it's there, but 25 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 7: I'm not gonna be at a at a bar on 26 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 7: a Tuesday at four thirty. 27 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 6: Now I know you're sitting here, JP, Hey speak for yourself. 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: Come on, so we call tuesday, come on and. 29 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 6: It just starts. 30 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 7: You know, there's uh I'm not saying I've never been 31 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 7: at a bar on a Tuesday, but that that. 32 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 6: Was not my bag. 33 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: We've got, we've got. 34 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: You know, it's a weird timing year, so there's not 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: a whole lot going on around the Jaguars. 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: We'll get into some of that coming up. Of course, 37 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: the signings why they haven't been so busy, you know, 38 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: tournaments here now it's turning time back, Bucky, What are 39 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: what are the what are the tar Hills doing? That's 40 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: the story. 41 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 6: That's a bad time. 42 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 5: Whoa whoa, whoa whoa what we're talking about bad time? 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 4: Like like we only have to do that hot, we 44 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 4: only have to be hot three weekends in a row. 45 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 4: And the way that the Tarhars want to approach you 46 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 4: just want to win the tournament. 47 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 5: That's this weekend. 48 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 4: So there's a four team invitational that the tar Hills 49 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: are playing in. They hope to it win the tournament, 50 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: they will see what it's like after that. There's always 51 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 4: a shot. There's always a shot to get hot. We 52 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 4: just got to be the best team in the country each. 53 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 5: And every weekend. We do that, we'll be able to 54 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 5: add another banner. 55 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: But here's another banner. 56 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 7: I'm not the Tar Hill fan that I once was. 57 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 7: But isn't there isn't there stud out? 58 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: Ok? 59 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's I saw him playing. If that kid's really good, 60 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 6: he was. 61 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 5: There, John Like the show must go on. 62 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 4: I love them, I love them, but they're still gonna 63 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 4: tip the ballipool Thursday. We got to play with whoever 64 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 4: rocks to Jersey. So it doesn't stop the expectations. Don't 65 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 4: change my expectations. We're gonna be right there. I gotta 66 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 4: fill out a bracket, gotta get that in Today. I'm 67 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 4: competing with my high school team. Got everyone in there, 68 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 4: and best believe the targets is gonna be somewhere in 69 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 4: the final four. 70 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 5: This the only way I know how to do it. 71 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 5: I don't know any other. 72 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: Way At least you and see guys are not in 73 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 3: jail like the Alabama guys right now. 74 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: So that's bad. 75 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 5: That's bad. 76 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 4: And you know, there's some conversation about trying to pilfer 77 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 4: o Naate Oates away from Alabama to maybe have him 78 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 4: down one of those plaid jacketson and Chapel Hill, if 79 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 4: there was a move that was made, But that can't happen. 80 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 5: You can't have that going around. 81 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 4: Can't have two controversial figures manning two of the most 82 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 4: respected programs we have on campus, the football and the 83 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: basketball team. 84 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,839 Speaker 5: So I think that ship is past. 85 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 6: Today's go to Carolina. 86 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 4: No, but there's a lot of conversation about if Carolina 87 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 4: was to make a move, knows would be high on 88 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 4: their list. 89 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 5: I just can't imagine how that would. 90 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 7: They haven't had a non Carolina guy as the coaching 91 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 7: like since pre Dean. 92 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 4: And I would say that I don't know if we 93 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 4: ever should, even though like the family is, the family 94 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 4: can go outside the family. 95 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 3: But if the family's not winning as much as the 96 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: family needs to win. 97 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: Sometimes you gotta go outside the family. 98 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 6: They may have in nearly two thousands, when. 99 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 4: I'm glad, I'm glad you brought that up because I 100 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 4: find it funny. It's just kind of the gift in 101 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 4: the curse of being guitar heel. 102 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 5: They've lost eight games, jp eight games. 103 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 4: The sky is falling because the Tarios have lost eight games. 104 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 4: I look around into all the brackets and there are 105 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 4: a lot of teams that have eight losses. Now the 106 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 4: top teams are one to two losses, but we're right there. 107 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 4: So it's it's kind of funny to me that they're 108 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 4: going at my guy Hubert, who was around when I 109 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 4: was in school. 110 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 5: But it is what it is to who much is 111 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 5: given much required. 112 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 7: Look, I've been a I used to be a major 113 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 7: Carolina fan. 114 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 6: I never went there obviously, but uh. 115 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 5: Now you're off the wagon. 116 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 7: I still follow them over anybody else, but I know 117 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 7: enough Tar Hill fans to know they're they're a piece 118 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 7: of work. 119 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: Now. That reminds me about Alabama football a little bit. 120 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 5: We do have high expectations. So now, Johnny, you probably weren't. 121 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 4: You probably all gated out right, like, so that's that's 122 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 4: your team now, Like you're off of us and you're 123 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 4: on the Gators. 124 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: Champs trying to go back to back. 125 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 7: Honestly, you know, everybody who I know who you know, 126 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 7: Frangie and the like who always give me grief about 127 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 7: my Florida connection. I don't feel a real connection to 128 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 7: Florida sports. I watched it last year when they want it, 129 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 7: and I was I was relatively happy when they want it, 130 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 7: you know, for them, because it seemed like they were 131 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 7: a good program, good guy the coach. But I'm not 132 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 7: a big I can't really attach to it. 133 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 3: This is an audio podcast, by the way, we have 134 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 3: videos so we can see each other. 135 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: Buncky just did the gator chomping. 136 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 137 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just saying I'm just saying, yeah, John, he's 138 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 4: not running around shopping. 139 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 5: I thought that was a big deal. I thought they 140 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 5: teach you that the first day of orientation. 141 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 6: People say I've never chomped. 142 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 7: I mean, I chomped eighty five eighty six when I 143 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 7: was there. But you know, really, once I started covering 144 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 7: Florida in the nineties for the newspaper, it's hard for 145 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 7: me to cover a team and attached fandom to it 146 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 7: because there's you know, you. 147 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: Know what the sausages made too. 148 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 4: What fun is that If we can't be a true fan. 149 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 4: I know, and I know this is the part we're 150 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 4: gonna talk about that. I just I just don't I 151 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 4: just don't understand how we can't go. I mean, I've 152 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 4: been listening to podcasts all the time. I got your 153 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 4: football coach John Summer all over here talking about toughness 154 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 4: and how they got to get to it and they 155 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 4: got to remove all the logos only to put the 156 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 4: logos back on after they earn it and all this 157 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 4: other stuff. And so I'm all in, like, I got 158 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 4: a little alligators running around the house, just because I'm like, 159 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: it's it's such a deal between the basketball coach and 160 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 4: they got the baseball coach. 161 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 5: Who's is he? 162 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: Is? 163 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 5: He? Is he suspended? Or there's so much stuff going 164 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 5: on around Florida. 165 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 4: And I've kind of adopted it because I come back 166 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: to Jacksonville. 167 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 6: So off, you're a Gator, Bucky Gator. 168 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I never thought i'd see the day. 169 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 5: Never thought got it be a crocodile? 170 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: How about that? All right? Hey? 171 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: Coming up a little bit later, we went on XT 172 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: today and asked for some questions for some uh some listeners. 173 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: We'll get to those coming up a little bit. Of course, 174 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: the Jaguars re signed a handful of guys before free agency, 175 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: and then once free agency broke, they brought in Chris 176 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: Rodriguez junior running back from the Washington Commanders, but not 177 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: much else going on. James Gladstone spoke with the media 178 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: guys a little bit after free agency started, and Bucky 179 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: had partly an explanation why And they have high value 180 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: in what could be some higher compensatory picks coming back 181 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: their way in twenty seven with the free agents they 182 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: let go out the door that signed elsewhere if they 183 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 3: perform at a high level and theory, compensatory picks become 184 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: higher and Fucky he's done some work with comp picks before, 185 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: and I guess that's the strategy moving ahead. 186 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I thought. 187 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 4: James gave a great explanation about why the Jaguars have 188 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 4: been slow to kind of jump in the free agent market, 189 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 4: and he talked about having guys who are valued by 190 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 4: other teams who signed Luca to their free agent deals, 191 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 4: and the compensatory picks that come back to the Jaguars 192 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 4: and how that treasure chest full of compensatory picks enabled 193 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 4: the Jags to make moves throughout the course of the season. 194 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 4: They're really pay it off if you think about what 195 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 4: they would do Greg Newsom, Jacobe Myers, some of the 196 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 4: other trades that they've made, They've been able to parlay 197 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 4: those picks and the players proven players down the line, 198 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 4: and so there's a there are options that having the 199 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 4: extra picks give you. We just talked about the trade vehicle. 200 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 4: You can also sit and pick and get the players 201 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 4: that are there when you have those numbers come up 202 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty seven, or you can package those picks 203 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 4: to move up to get in range. 204 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 5: For some of the desired players. 205 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: So, in essence, the way Glasstone explained, it is really 206 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 4: a win win for the Jaguars to kind of sit back, wait, 207 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 4: be patient, be very deliberate in terms of how they 208 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 4: approach THEE agency while developing their own because they're able 209 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 4: to parlay the successes of their own players and to 210 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 4: maybe future successes with other players that can feel valuable roles. 211 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 7: Yet, I feel slightly different about comp picks than I 212 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 7: used to. I thought for a long time that a 213 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 7: lot of football people sort of overrated them, and that 214 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 7: sort of changed when because you used to not be 215 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 7: able to trade them, once you were allowed to trade them, 216 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 7: brought in a little more to their value because I 217 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 7: always thought, hey, if you're losing a really good free agent, 218 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 7: it really doesn't balance out to get a. 219 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 6: Fourth round pick. 220 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: There's a late third or late fixth. 221 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 7: And you know, so I'm a little more all in 222 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 7: on the compic as being important. I think it's important 223 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 7: because I got a lot of fans who were asking me, well, 224 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 7: you know, does he really think that losing this player 225 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 7: balances out getting a comp pick? And I don't think 226 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 7: James was saying We're always going to let our guys 227 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 7: go to get comp picks two years from now that 228 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 7: we don't know yet. If these had been different positions 229 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 7: and different players, I think that I think they would 230 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 7: have re signed them. 231 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 6: I'm not so sure that. 232 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 7: You know, everyone talks about the cap being the reason, 233 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 7: like the cap now in twenty six me the reason 234 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 7: that made these moves. I don't know then they they'd 235 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 7: had cap space, they had done that much differently because 236 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 7: of the positions these guys played, meaning Etn and Lloyd 237 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 7: they were running back at outside linebacker, do he was 238 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 7: a safety? Those are not positions that all teams resigned. 239 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 7: So again, I'm more making the point that if people 240 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 7: saw that what James says say, we're always going to 241 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 7: let our guys go and build for the future and compick. 242 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 6: It's not that. 243 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 7: But in this situation with these players, yes, you can 244 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 7: get comp picks for guys and now don't re sign 245 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 7: guys in free agency and maybe get two or three 246 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 7: picks next year. That would be a really big comp 247 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 7: pick year, and it'd be the biggest comp pick. The 248 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 7: Jaguars were the biggest comp pick year. If they get 249 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 7: three that they've ever had so I think they got 250 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 7: one a couple of years ago in the third round 251 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 7: for Juwan Taylor. Beyond that, and they got one for 252 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 7: Ard and Key that year. I don't think they've ever 253 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 7: gotten three in one year, so there is a formula, 254 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 7: but they could get three or four next year if 255 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 7: Dewey and News play enough. 256 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 257 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 4: No, it's really interesting to go down their thing, and 258 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 4: I think people will feel like it's weird that a 259 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 4: general manager will talk about his players kind of being 260 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 4: developed in a system, developed in an organization and going elsewhere. 261 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,479 Speaker 4: But what you're doing is you're speaking to the realities 262 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 4: of the situation of pro sports where you have a 263 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 4: team you're not going to be able to keep everybody, 264 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 4: and I can tell you, like said, having sending in 265 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 4: those seats and listening to coaches. Coaches will talk about 266 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 4: my goal is to get everybody on the field and 267 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 4: having opportunities to better themselves. And some of those will 268 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 4: be here, some of those will be at other places. 269 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 4: And so if you're really bought in and you're really 270 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 4: trying to help the player be the best version of themselves, 271 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 4: you want them to play well, and then whatever happens 272 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 4: after they play well, whether they come back or go on, 273 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 4: it is about your ability to pour into them so 274 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 4: they can become the best players that they can become 275 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 4: and really help themselves and help their families situations with 276 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 4: whatever happens down the road. 277 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 7: Well, sometimes I believe it or not, Bucky. Sometimes my 278 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 7: brethren's in the media and observers and fans, they don't 279 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 7: always look at things logically. 280 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 6: Have you ever noticed that? 281 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: Wow? Really? 282 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 7: But if you draft and develop well, like if you're 283 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 7: a draft and developed team, which I think this franchise 284 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 7: is going to turn into or is turning into, well, 285 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 7: there's draft, develop and resign as part of it, but 286 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 7: part of it too. If you draft and develop well enough, 287 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 7: the math doesn't work for resigning all your guys. You 288 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 7: can't resign them all. So the Jaguars are drafting and developing. 289 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 2: Well. 290 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 7: They've drafted Trevor Lawrence. He's developed into a frontline quarterback. 291 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 7: Trayvon Walker I believe will be resigned, Brent and Strange 292 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 7: I believe will be resigned, Josh Heinz Allen. They've resigned 293 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 7: Parker Washington. So you can't re sign everybody, And you 294 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 7: have to pick your spots and positions that you resign. 295 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 7: And as much as I like to Travis Etn and 296 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 7: as much as I like Devin Lloyd, they play positions 297 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 7: that if you sign those positions to core value money, 298 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 7: somewhere along the line you've got to not sign positions 299 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 7: to core value money. And I think that was just 300 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 7: a philosophical choice they had to make with those guys. 301 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 7: And I mean, I don't think you really had any 302 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 7: choice with it, and I don't I don't think the 303 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 7: choice was all that difficult. 304 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 4: Look, man, you have to like you got to be 305 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 4: able to make hard decisions, and you can emotionally love 306 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: a player, but you have to be able to separate 307 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 4: your love and adoration for a player in the person 308 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 4: that he is from. What makes good business sense, and 309 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: in this moment, given the skyrocketing prices that both of 310 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 4: those players were going to command, it's the end. And 311 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 4: even I guess he changed the pronunciation's name hn and 312 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 4: H and Devin Lloyd, it was going to be cost prohibitive. 313 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 4: And it comes to building the rest of the team, 314 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 4: and so you wish them well and then you focus 315 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 4: on finding replacements that can play at a higher level 316 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 4: while also attacking other areas of the team that need 317 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 4: to be improved so we can be the team that 318 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 4: is the last one standing and we can feel the 319 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 4: confetti flat on our shoulder. 320 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 5: So that's ultimately what it's about. 321 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 6: I have a question for the scout. 322 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: Okay, this is a scouting season. 323 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 7: Scout in the future GM, because I still think we're 324 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 7: all gonna be working for Bucky someday. 325 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 6: Rodriguez, I feel like he is going to. 326 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 7: I feel like he is a player who has a 327 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 7: chance to maybe not change the identity the offense, but 328 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 7: fit into what they want the offensive identity to be. 329 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 7: They talked last year so much in training camp about 330 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 7: being a tough, phys running team. I think they want 331 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 7: to be that. I think it was hard to really 332 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 7: play to that identity with etem with Hn and Tooting 333 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 7: being your primary backs. I kind of feel like this 334 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 7: guy may bring a toughness and a consistency to the 335 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 7: running offense that maybe they didn't have last year. 336 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 337 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 4: No, it sounds like a great matchup. It sounds like 338 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 4: the relationship with Lim is solid. It sounds like the 339 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 4: ability to push him to be more than maybe he's 340 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 4: even shown at this level could help this offense go 341 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 4: to a higher level. And when we think about what 342 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 4: this offense wants to be, we want to be a 343 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 4: physical offense that can run the ball. 344 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 5: We want to be able to throw it. 345 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 4: We want to be able to utilize all the weapons, 346 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 4: and that includes using the running back out of the backfield. 347 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 4: In the past game, Rodriguez gives them that, And I 348 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 4: just love the confidence that he comes in with, but 349 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 4: more importantly, I like the work ethic and the toughness 350 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 4: that he's going to bring. This was a move that 351 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 4: was move that was very intentional, and I continue to 352 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 4: believe that the Jaguars are going to continue to add 353 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 4: pieces to their running back room. Yeah, He's certainly a 354 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 4: big piece and certainly someone they hope can ignite this 355 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 4: offense in a different way. 356 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 3: Well, John, Bucky is time to lock in seats for 357 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six its deposit season as well. Next season 358 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 3: will be played at EverBank Stadium, but seating capacity limited 359 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: due to the in Bowl Renovations and spots are going fast, 360 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 3: so don't miss out on your chance to see this 361 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 3: season's biggest matchups. Jaguars dot Com slash tickets were called 362 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 3: nine oh four six three three two thousand. Of course, 363 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 3: the schedule usually comes out early in May, first week 364 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: or two of May. We'll get a better idea of date, 365 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 3: certainly all the real idea of dates. Once the schedule 366 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: comes out, you can check out all the opponents home 367 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 3: and road at Jaguars dot Com. Johnny wrote a nice 368 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 3: article about that once the season was ended and all 369 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 3: the opponents were confirmed, So check it out right there. 370 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: Let's wrap today a little different. This is a media 371 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 3: question edition of the Huddle Up Podcast. I don't know, Bucky, 372 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 3: if you're ready for this. 373 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: I don't know. We've already done this. 374 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 5: I've been seeing some of the questions. I'm like, oh, okay. 375 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see which ones made the cut today. 376 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 7: Bucky's kind of the king of NFL social media. He's 377 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 7: the king of many things. 378 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: He's a social media maven. 379 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 5: He is we say, all right, let's do this. 380 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: What we say at Lever Torrance is Dennis Gardak expected 381 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 3: to feel the vacancy left by Devin Lloyd. 382 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: If so, is he up to the task. 383 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 3: And another note, he says, it's the off season after 384 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 3: a great regular season, so not much else to speculate about. 385 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: It feels weird. I could get used to it, though, Yeah, 386 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 2: I agree, we. 387 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 5: Think I could. Yeah, I could absolutely get used to this. 388 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 4: I think being a successful team, being a team that's 389 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 4: a perennial playoff team, one that is always buying for 390 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 4: the title, is something that we aspire to and I 391 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 4: would love to be in that position one day. So 392 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 4: hopefully we can build on last season and having even 393 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 4: better between twenty six tween twenty seven. As far as 394 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 4: Gardak replacing Lloyd, I don't think that's a direct replacement. 395 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 5: To me, that replacement is either. 396 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 4: Going to be found on one of the backups that 397 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 4: are already on the roster, or they want to look 398 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 4: to see if they can feel that position in the draft. 399 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 4: When I look at Day two, second and third round. 400 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 4: There are a lot of intriguing linebackers that could be 401 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 4: in play. Whether it's a Jacob Rodriguez from Texas Tech, 402 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 4: whether it's the Jake Golday from Cincinnati. There guys that 403 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 4: are splash play specialist, guys that can make big plays, 404 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 4: can do some of the things that we saw Devin 405 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 4: Lloyd do with all the interceptions, but they also can 406 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 4: fit and do some things in the run game. To me, 407 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 4: because the draft was so loaded with linebackers, I believe 408 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 4: there was more comfort in being able to let Devin 409 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 4: Lloyd depart because you feel like you can find a 410 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 4: suitable replacement in the draft. 411 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: But Bucky, do you need a little bit of a 412 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: thump right? I mean, for lack of a better term, 413 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 2: Lloyd was a stacked linebacker, Like, do you need that 414 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: kind of size to fill in the run game or 415 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 2: can you know? Because Gardak is not that now and I. 416 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 5: Don't I don't envision guardact playing their role. 417 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 4: To me, I think this is someone that they find 418 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 4: in the draft or one of the guys that are 419 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 4: already on the depth chart that has an opportunity, whether 420 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 4: Benrea Miller whoever. To me, this is about finding a 421 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 4: player that can impact the game in a few different 422 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 4: ways in the draft, and there are a bunch of 423 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 4: guys who have off all linebacker talents but also can 424 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 4: get off the edges and can blitz effectively. I talked 425 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 4: about Rodriguez and Golde even early in the draft, and 426 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 4: Anthony Hill from Texas will be in play. I expect 427 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 4: the other guys to kind of be off the table 428 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 4: when we were talking about C. J. Allen and styles 429 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 4: and all that. But there are enough players in this 430 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 4: draft where you can find a really good player that 431 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 4: can come in and make a big contribution. 432 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I could. 433 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 7: I could definitely see because that's really the only spot 434 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 7: where but they can line up there with Vintrell or 435 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 7: somebody else on the roster. But it's really the only 436 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 7: spot where you look at and say, Okay, well they 437 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 7: they don't really have a guy that, you know, oh, 438 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 7: is a starting caliber player. And again I think Ventrell 439 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 7: probably is. But you know what I'm getting at, right, 440 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 7: they've contributed something but not but I could easily see 441 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 7: that being fifty six. And if it's fifty six, then 442 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 7: that guy's got, you know, outside linebacker. At that point 443 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 7: in the second round, should be a guy who's starting 444 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 7: and who is potentially a really good player. I could 445 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 7: also see them if they get in a bind there 446 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 7: and a player that they don't feel as that guy 447 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 7: is around, you could see them drafting it later. It's 448 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 7: it's a position where there's often veterans available later in 449 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 7: the offseason too. You can get trade for not very 450 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 7: much equity. It's just not supposed to be an impossible 451 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 7: position to fill. I mean, it's not like you're trying 452 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 7: to go get your starting left tackle here, you or 453 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 7: your number one shut down corner. 454 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 6: It's weak side linebacker. I'm not diminishing the people who 455 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 6: play it, but it is a like third edge rusher. 456 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 7: You can go get that guy a little later because 457 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 7: veterans are available and they maintain their availability so they 458 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 7: can go to the right team. 459 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: You said fifty six. You see Abdula where it's fifty. 460 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 7: Six for the Jaguars, fifty six overall. 461 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, yeah, another linebacker. 462 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, when you're talking about yeah, when you're talking about 463 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 4: pig fifty six. So we talked about the bottom of 464 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 4: the second round, and we talked about it. I talked 465 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 4: about all the guys gold d Anthony Hill, Jacob Arriguez, 466 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 4: Joe Siah Trotter from Missouri appears to be out type 467 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 4: of guy, a little old school throwback linebacker instincts. Aggressive 468 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 4: range this year is uncommon because there are a bunch 469 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 4: of linebackers they grade out right in those ranges where. 470 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 5: We have picks in the second and third round. 471 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 4: There will be guys that can come in and buy 472 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 4: for starting positions, or you talk about being able to 473 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 4: go to the veteran route and find someone on the street. 474 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 5: The longer it goes free agency, the more. 475 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 4: Likely those guys are going to be admiable to those 476 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 4: deals that are on team terms as opposed to their terms. 477 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 2: All right, I'm back on your page again, John, Yeah, 478 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: you're right. Six pick. 479 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, but heyt being a little too inside football. I 480 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 7: didn't say number fifty six. I said fifty six. 481 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 5: That was cool. 482 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: Cool, here's a linebacker. We were talking like I got you. 483 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 5: I understood. 484 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 7: The two draft guys were yeah, I drafted over here. 485 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just read the car. That's all I do 486 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 2: is read commercials. 487 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 5: He's still he's still hanging on to the players. 488 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 4: I guess he's still on the weekend, still thinking about 489 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 4: what he could do, how he can mimic some of 490 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 4: the things that he sol over the weekend. 491 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 5: We're over here talking about ball. 492 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 3: Next question off X today at Hickstra one seven to one. 493 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: How improved and in what ways will Travis Hunter. 494 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 3: Be on both sides of the ball after having a 495 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 3: full year to study the offensive and defensive systems. 496 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 2: Well, of course we know this. 497 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 3: I mean there was some lining up is shoes early 498 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 3: on offense last year, flashed on defensive times, and then 499 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 3: the injury happened. It felt like they were starting to 500 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 3: they were going to give him a little bit more 501 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: on offense until the injury went down after the byeway, Bucky, 502 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 3: But what's your field right now on Travis Hunter? 503 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 5: Really optimistic coming in. 504 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 4: I thought he had an opportunity to be a fantastic 505 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 4: defensive back. 506 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 5: I thought he would be a. 507 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 4: Package player on offense, and it appears that that might 508 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 4: be where he's trending. And we'll see how it changes 509 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 4: based on his performance on the field as defensive back. 510 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 4: Though he has an opportunity to be a high end 511 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 4: player in his defense because it's a C ball, getball defense. 512 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 4: The best part of his games or his instincts, his 513 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 4: awareness and his ball skills. When you watch him and 514 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 4: we've had the preview watching him in practice, they are 515 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 4: few that I can imagine having better hands than Travis 516 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 4: Hunter and playing in his zone where he can track 517 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 4: the quarterbacks, eize he can play freely in terms of 518 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 4: reacting to things that happen in front of him. I 519 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 4: just think the ball is gonna find him a ton 520 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 4: of different ways on tips and overthrows where he makes 521 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 4: a legitimate impact on that side, and. 522 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 5: Then on offense, just being able to fill. 523 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 4: In as a wide receiver for just because Parker Washington 524 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 4: was so good, Brian Thomas Junior, Jakobe Myers, Brent Strange, 525 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 4: him being able to come on occasion and make some 526 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 4: things happen will be positive. But on defense he should 527 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 4: be a monster on the perimeter. 528 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 7: I'm not going to frame this question like it was 529 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 7: a good thing he got hurt because it wasn't is 530 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 7: there And I think there's still a lot of unknown 531 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 7: about Travis because it felt like we saw him early 532 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 7: when the entire team was still trying to figure out 533 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 7: what everything was. The offensive identity really developed in the 534 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 7: second half of the season where you felt like they 535 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 7: knew exactly what these. 536 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 6: These receivers roles were. Everything got going. I guess what 537 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 6: I'm I'm asking Bucky. Is it a. 538 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 7: Is it a positive for Travis that the offense now 539 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 7: has an identity? You know what Parker is, you know 540 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 7: what Jacoby is. Trevor knows what those guys are. 541 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: Will it be. 542 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 7: Easier for him to fit in and find the things 543 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 7: that he can contribute or is it unfortunate for him 544 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 7: because all the places are full? 545 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's It's funny, right because we had talked 546 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 4: about the wide receiver struggles. He gets hurt, they make 547 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 4: the trade for Jacoby, and the things just kind of 548 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 4: fall into place offensively. Parker Washington emerges, becomes almost a 549 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 4: borderline superstar in this offense. Jacoby Myers is a dependable 550 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 4: chain mover. You see the continued growth of Bretton Strange. 551 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 4: So this offense appears where everyone is really slotted in 552 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 4: a role that works for the talent. 553 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 5: Raven Brian Thomas Jr. 554 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 4: Now with Travis, not that he's the outlier, but I 555 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 4: do believe there's a little more you have to manufacture. 556 00:26:58,560 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 4: How you want to get his production, how you want 557 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 4: to get him on the field. Because you don't want 558 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 4: to upset the Alpacarte in terms of the chemistry and 559 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 4: the continuity that has already been established with the first three. 560 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 4: This is why the offseason, the summer and stuff could 561 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 4: be important, depending on when he comes back from the injury, 562 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 4: to begin to figure out how to play with those 563 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 4: various lineups, what things you can do with certain people 564 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 4: on the field, all of that, and this is what 565 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 4: the coaches are spending their offseason doing. They're going through 566 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 4: the various scenarios, trying to figure out how to maximize 567 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 4: the telling them the roster, how to putting them in 568 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 4: a position to make the most impact while. 569 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 5: Making the game easy for the quarterback. 570 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 4: We'll see how it plays out, but he certainly will 571 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 4: have a role, but I expect his role to be 572 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 4: more significant on defense, just given how he could be 573 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 4: a starter. 574 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's funny, I guess you know. It's how you 575 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 7: phrase a question. I didn't mean for that question to 576 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 7: sound like I didn't think Travis is going to have 577 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 7: a role. It's just interesting to figure out what it's 578 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 7: going to be because we haven't seen it, and we 579 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 7: really never really saw him in first seven games against 580 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 7: the Rams, he had a day, right, right. 581 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 2: But I had a second half. 582 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 6: When a bow up right, it's hard. 583 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 7: It's hard to close your eyes and visualize, like, I 584 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 7: know what Parker is going to look like next year. 585 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 7: I know what Yakobe's going to do. I don't really 586 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 7: quite know what Travis fits. But I think what's going 587 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 7: to be interesting is if we if his team had 588 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 7: like an average offensive coach, you'd wonder about it. We're 589 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 7: talking about it as sort of a challenge for Liam. 590 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 7: This might be just a blast because he's really good, 591 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 7: maybe the best I've ever covered it. Okay, I'm going 592 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 7: to get guy X in a situation where Guy X 593 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 7: can excel. 594 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: Or he's up against this guy on the other So. 595 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 6: Maybe once everything else is it. 596 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 7: Is settled, Liam's back there right now, going Okay, I've 597 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 7: got these packages, and I know this kid can excel 598 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 7: doing this. But I don't have to worry about him 599 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 7: always being in the offense. I can just have him 600 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 7: do an XYZ. That might be really unusual, buck you, 601 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 7: but it might be what works. 602 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 603 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 4: It's one of those things when you go back and 604 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 4: you really look at how he was deployed at Colorado, 605 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 4: A lot of it was some packaging right, Like he 606 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 4: had a small menu of plays that he operated from. 607 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 4: Now they stayed in that small menu a lot because 608 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 4: he was able to make a huge impact. But yeah, 609 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 4: most guys, and they'll tell you this the NFL that 610 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,239 Speaker 4: look ten to fifteen percent of your roster may have 611 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 4: some transcending guys like the first top five or so 612 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 4: or guys that can play in any scheme or whatever. 613 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 4: The rest of the team. This system players and they 614 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 4: got to be put in the right thing to be 615 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 4: a major impact. And for me, offensively, Traps needs to 616 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 4: put in a situation where he can play to his 617 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 4: strengths as a playmaker, and that takes time for a 618 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 4: coach to figure that out. And as you're doing that, 619 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 4: he has a unique challenge of learning a different position 620 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 4: on the other side of the ball. Packaging may make 621 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 4: it easier for him to process it mentally because you're 622 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 4: not over in data, you're not overwhelmed with all the 623 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 4: information that can come with trying to learn two positions 624 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 4: as a full time player on both sides of the ball. 625 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 7: It's a cool thing, JP because Week seven last year, 626 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 7: we're doing this podcast when we get back from London 627 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 7: and I have listened to it, but I'm sure our 628 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 7: theme was, Hey, he's going to be the go to 629 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 7: guy offensively. Now, all of a sudden, seven months later, 630 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 7: he doesn't have to be, and there's four or five 631 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 7: other guys who can be the go to guy. What 632 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 7: a huge difference that is? May I interrupted you, JP, 633 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 7: But that's a great point. Yeah, an unbelievable change. 634 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 2: Life comes at you fast in the league. 635 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 7: Right, and in a positive way for abody around here. 636 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: Let's get one more question in today at Travis D. Holmes. 637 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: Who's a surprised player that fans or media may not. 638 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: Be currently discussing who could be next season's unheralded star 639 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: called Carter Bradley, Right, not kidding. 640 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 6: If I had told you then, it wouldn't be a surprise. 641 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: Oh, it's a great point, Jobs, excellent point. 642 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 3: I mean you could think about the guys who didn't 643 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 3: play last year, right, I mean Ran Saw who missed 644 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 3: all the last season. They have high hopes for him. 645 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 3: McLeod was a sixth round pick, he never played last year. 646 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: Linebacker edge kind of type. 647 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 7: You know, I always struggle with this because I'm never 648 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 7: quite sure how much certain fans follow the like if 649 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 7: you follow the whole roster and listen to us all 650 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 7: the time, then you sort of know about everybody. For 651 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 7: the average fan not looking at it. Those guys you know, 652 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 7: Rand saw absolutely. You know, would Tooton be a surprise. 653 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 7: Tutan could really step up, I know if he's a surprise. 654 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 3: So maybe like the D line, like Strigo and BJ Green, 655 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 3: they had they had some spots last year. 656 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 4: BJ Green has a chance to jump in into rotation 657 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 4: because when you finally got his opportunity late in the year, 658 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 4: he fled was able to have some pass rush pressure, 659 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 4: some sacks. He has a disruptive nature to his game, 660 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 4: and he's different than the other guys that are playing 661 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 4: the position with him, so he's a bit of a 662 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 4: change up compared to the other guys. 663 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 5: He certainly can have an impact. I like the quint Allen. 664 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 4: Continuing to do what he does as a special teams 665 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 4: contributor and RB three. He's been really good in his role. 666 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 4: I continue to think that by being productive in the 667 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 4: role that he's in, he'll eventually get more opportunities. This 668 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 4: team has a lot of young players that are really intriguing, 669 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 4: and I don't even think we've seen the best of 670 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 4: some of the guys that are just being elevated, like 671 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 4: Monterry Brown the way that he played, But I think 672 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 4: Jerry and Jones played terrific when he had his opportunity 673 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 4: Antonio Johnson. Now that Dewey is no longer like him 674 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 4: getting an expanded role and fully settling in. So I 675 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 4: expect some of these players that might have been part 676 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 4: time starters or fill in starters, I expect some of 677 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 4: them to really popping major ways next year. 678 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 7: I like JP's pick of Ransaw. I mean it feels 679 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 7: like he could be a guy who really secondary is 680 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 7: in line to take a big jump if Ransaw and 681 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 7: Hunter are what they thought. Remember that was a third 682 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 7: round pick and a first round pick last year that 683 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 7: you really didn't get very much impact in the secondary 684 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 7: trafsmates and plays. I'm not saying, but you know at 685 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 7: the end of the season wasn't playing. So those are 686 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 7: supposed to be first third round pick by second year 687 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 7: are supposed to be, especially with its number two overall Bellweather 688 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 7: people in a improving young secondary, this wouldn't be a surprise. 689 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 7: But the more I look at it this offseason, more 690 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 7: I listened things around here, BTJ coming back I don't 691 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,479 Speaker 7: know if he's going to be the alpha one that 692 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 7: people thought that he was destined to be as a rookie. 693 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 7: But I do wonder if Okay an off season to 694 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 7: step back see what his role is going to be, 695 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 7: the coaches to see what he's going to be. Maybe 696 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 7: I'm not big on talking about pressure affecting a player, 697 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 7: but maybe for him not having to be that guy 698 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 7: and just being the threat, uh, takes him back to 699 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 7: I'm seeing somebody else's ideas. 700 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 6: Somebody said it to me this week. Maybe he goes 701 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 6: back to. 702 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 7: LSU where he was not the guy right and is 703 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 7: just an impact guy making plays every week. 704 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 2: We saw the last two months of the season. Yeah, 705 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 2: Myers was in finally and then yeah listened up for him. 706 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe John is onto something because going. 707 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 6: To be not often. 708 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's gonna be a bit of the correction 709 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 4: where everyone is going to spend all the offseason talking 710 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 4: about Jacobe Myers and Parker Washington and Brian Thomas. 711 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 5: Junior is going to be kind. 712 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 4: Of the guy that has left out of the discussion. 713 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 4: After the year before we talked about him being the 714 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 4: next great, the next one that could join Jimmy and 715 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 4: Keenan as an all timer to play the position. He's 716 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 4: still somewhere in that mold, and when he started to 717 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 4: come on at the end of the year, we saw 718 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 4: this offense have a different look to it. 719 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 5: Now. 720 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 4: What happens is when a new coach comes in, he 721 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 4: has a system that he wants to play. He has 722 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 4: a kind of an imagination and a thought of how 723 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 4: he wants to play. Now that if you've seen a 724 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 4: full season of Brian Thomas junior what he can do, 725 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 4: the good and the bad, you can build a better 726 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 4: game plan to really put him in position to make plays. 727 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 4: I expect him to be big time next year, and 728 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,959 Speaker 4: I think we'll have the discussion again about him being 729 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 4: one of the top wide receivers in the league, even 730 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 4: though it may be in more of a wide receiver 731 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 4: one slash wide receiver two role as opposed to that 732 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 4: dominant number one role that many of us. 733 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 5: Expected him to play. 734 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, sometimes, JP, when we know we're like anybody, we 735 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 7: talk things to death, and especially during the season, you're 736 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 7: looking at things up close. And it was easy to 737 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 7: focus last year on you know, you know, the early 738 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 7: drops and what he wasn't doing. 739 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was pretty standout. 740 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 7: But then when you pull back and look over the 741 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 7: course of the season, the play against the Raiders where 742 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 7: he got hurt, but it was a big play in 743 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 7: that game. Do they beat the Texans out here without 744 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 7: him making the way you know, hit a couple of 745 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 7: drops early in that game, but made the big play, 746 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 7: made the big play against Kansas City, made a big 747 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 7: play against the colt. When you look at this team's highlights, 748 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 7: number seven is running with the ball and catching the 749 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 7: ball in some of the big plays, big moments that 750 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 7: I'm not sure you know, don't just look at what 751 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 7: didn't happen early. 752 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 6: There are some plays and. 753 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 2: So the roster that can do those plays either, right, how. 754 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 7: Many other guys make the play against the Texans where 755 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 7: you're pulling away with just just talent? 756 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 2: So anyway, you have it, last thought here, bucket, Thanks 757 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 2: for the questions. 758 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 3: By the way, to everyone on ask we appreciate that. 759 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 3: As always, uh Pro day season, Right, you're gonna think of. 760 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,439 Speaker 4: It now, right, Yeah, we're just beginning to get into 761 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 4: some of We've seen a couple of guys go. I 762 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 4: think everyone on a national level is waiting for Mendoza 763 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 4: to go and that's April first where he'll throw the ball. 764 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 5: Around the yard. 765 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 6: It's your guys, Mendoza. 766 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 4: I can't say he's my guys. He's the guy and 767 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 4: he's gonna be the first one to go. And it'd 768 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 4: be interesting because the comparison like people are really going 769 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 4: because unfortunately on our side, like you would love to 770 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 4: have like multiple quarterbacks in the conversation because the interest 771 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 4: is there. You can create these debates and conversations and 772 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 4: those things, but this year's class doesn't have that. Some 773 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 4: Mendoza is the guy, and now I would say that 774 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 4: some of the conversation is probably gone too far to 775 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 4: him being great. 776 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 5: Instellar and superstar. 777 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 4: And this because when you look at him on the surface, 778 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 4: he doesn't have the talent that a Trevor has. He 779 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 4: doesn't have a talent that the traditional number one quarterbacks have. 780 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 4: He does have moxie, he does have big game moments. 781 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 4: It would be interesting to see what he looks like 782 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 4: in the league when all things are kind of the 783 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 4: playing fill is level and it comes down to literally 784 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 4: your quarterback has to be able to win a shootout 785 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 4: against another high end quarterback. 786 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 5: How does he fare in that? When talent is really 787 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 5: a major issue for the top quarterbacks in the league. 788 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 2: It's not the old oaken bucket game anymore. 789 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 5: It's just not no no, no, no no. Was it 790 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 5: big noon kickoffs? No, we don't do that, like, it 791 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 5: won't be that. 792 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 4: Kennesas States not on the schedule, Indiana States not on 793 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 4: the schedule. 794 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 5: Every week. We're gonna have to strap it up and 795 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 5: see what it's like. 796 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 4: And so we will see if he continued to rise 797 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 4: to the occasion like he's done in many of the 798 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 4: instances that he did last year. 799 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 6: The biggest play, like his memory play. Obviously, it will 800 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 6: always be the run. Oh my gosh, I hardy do 801 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:04,280 Speaker 6: that run. 802 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 5: Against Yeah, what happened? 803 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 4: It might happen once, Right, He's not he's not gonna 804 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 4: he's not gonna make it a living taken the shots, 805 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,919 Speaker 4: all right, choking in that game or whatever like that's 806 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 4: not going to. 807 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 5: Be his calling. 808 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, but great kid, hope you we doing. 809 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 2: Hope he does well, Bucky, great stuff. As always. We'll 810 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 2: do this again next week. 811 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 5: How about that, man, Let's do it. Let's do it. 812 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 5: Should be fun. 813 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks out of here, John Osier, I'm JP Shaddick. 814 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,479 Speaker 3: Are thanks to Joe Fortunado and Brent Reeber, and thanks 815 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 3: to you for listening to huddle up with Bucky Brooks