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Speaker 2: He Hey boo, it's me Roz. You guys this episode today,

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Speaker 2: Oh it's a good one. There are so many stories,

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Speaker 2: beginning of this show because we got a lot to

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Speaker 2: get into. I am joined today by Chris Colfer, who

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Speaker 2: you may know he played Kurt on Glee, which he

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Speaker 2: Influential people of the year. He's also a New York

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Speaker 2: Times best selling author, and it turns out ghosts and

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Speaker 2: lucky with Chris having just a plethora of stories, and

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Speaker 2: I mean also, I know I've gotten a lot of

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Speaker 2: new listeners. So Hi, Welcome to the spooky, kooky world

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Speaker 2: of Ghosted by Roz Dress Feales. I'm your host, Roz

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Speaker 2: Dress fales, I use she, her or they them pronouns,

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Speaker 2: and you know, come on in. It's nice and cozy.

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Speaker 2: It's like a slumber party over here, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I've heard of that person. I want to hear what

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Speaker 1: I got it for you. I got you covered.

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Speaker 2: Also, go listen to some of these episodes with people

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Speaker 2: maybe never have heard of. You might fall in love

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Speaker 2: with someone new. And as always, I have a Patreon,

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Speaker 2: Patreon dot com slash rossdres Flees. This time I do

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Speaker 2: that little thing where I list off a bunch of

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Speaker 2: thoughts on their profiles and there. All right, let's just

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Speaker 2: get into it. I'm so excited. Here's my conversation with

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Speaker 2: Chris Colfer on with the show. Oh my god, you guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm joined by Chris Colfer. Hello, how are you.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Roz. I am so excited to be here.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm so excited for a variety of reasons, but

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Speaker 2: especially because I now know that you love the Paranormals,

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Speaker 4: So we don't know each other that well, although I'm

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Speaker 4: a huge, huge fan of yours. But when you when

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Speaker 4: Did you know that.

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Speaker 3: This is my favorite thing to talk about in the

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Speaker 2: What the hell? Oh yeah, how did I not know this? Okay, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: So well let's backtrack. So you were recently at Golden

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Speaker 2: And and then I was like, I'm just gonna ask

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Speaker 4: Said, like like what I actually, I wasn't very familiar

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Speaker 2: to bed or are.

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00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 3: You I At this point I am in deep denial.

444
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 4: Because it was like it was like it was like

445
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 4: the world is scary outside my house, scary inside my house.

446
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna pretend everything is okay.

447
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 1: Did you share this with anybody at the time?

448
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 4: Oh, of course I told anyone who would listen. And yeah,

449
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 4: and then my mom would come and visit me, if

450
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 4: you know, occasionally. And my mom is very very much

451
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 4: like does not believe in this kind of stuff. Or

452
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 4: and and her her for the first time, she say

453
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 4: at my house. She she I met her downstairs her

454
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 4: breakfast and she goes, this house is haunted.

455
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: Why did she say that?

456
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 3: She was? I was like, why do you say that?

457
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 4: And and she said that she she was hearing footsteps

458
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,239
Speaker 4: in the hallway all night long, and I granted, and

459
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 4: I at the time, like I said, I was in denial.

460
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 4: And I was like, well, you know, Brian, my cat

461
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 4: is very heavy, so maybe you just you know, you

462
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 4: heard you know, him stomping around. And She's like, no, Christopher,

463
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 4: I heard human footsteps all night long going up down

464
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 4: the stairs. And this house is haunted.

465
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 3: You need to move.

466
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 4: And again again just you know, denial, denial, denal, stomach

467
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 4: at stomach at stomach it. So anyway, you know, the house,

468
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 4: like the longer that I lived there, it just seemed

469
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 4: like there was just this bad energy in in the air.

470
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 4: And the way that it was built was was kind

471
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 4: of unsettling too, because the it was it was multi leveled.

472
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 4: It was it was like a big hound. It was

473
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 4: kind of like a townhouse, but like it sat the

474
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 4: kind of over a cliff in the hills. And uh,

475
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 4: I uh that the basement was very creepy because the

476
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 4: basement was only like partially finished, where like half of

477
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 4: it was concrete and the other half was just dirt,

478
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 4: like plain dirt, like like basically what I'm saying is

479
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 4: bodies could have been buried. Of course, I wouldn't have known.

480
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 4: So anyway, it just got to a point and I

481
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 4: I remember I went to a psychic and and the

482
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 4: psychic told me, yeah, that that you need to get

483
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 4: out of that house.

484
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 3: And and I was like, I agree. So I only

485
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 3: lived there.

486
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 4: I lived there for I think less than less than

487
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 4: a year, and and then I then I moved to

488
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 4: to another house. But then about I would say about

489
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 4: three or four months after I moved from that house,

490
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 4: I saw my old neighbor at the grocery store. His

491
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 4: name was Ben, and I remember Ben telling me, you

492
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 4: know who I'd become friends with.

493
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 3: Uh over over the over the over the the.

494
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 4: Time that I was living there. He stopped me the

495
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 4: grocertore and he said, I never I would never have

496
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 4: told you this while you were living there. But your

497
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,959
Speaker 4: house used to be a huge like drug house like

498
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 4: it was.

499
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 1: It was.

500
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 4: It was like people would come like we we would

501
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 4: see like Bentley's and cars like parked outside for days

502
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 4: and days on end. We would see people go in

503
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 4: and then we would never see them come out. And

504
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 4: so I was like, okay, well now you tell me.

505
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 4: Maybe you could have told me this before I bought

506
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 4: the house. But uh so, yeah, so that kind of

507
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 4: confirmed to me that that there was some then, uh

508
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 4: something something off there.

509
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 2: Not only are you a dream guest with so many

510
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: other things, as you've mentioned, you've done your homework and

511
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 2: you've listened to the show, but you've got stories with endings. Yeah,

512
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 2: with confirmation too, right, Oh my god, a nice little

513
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 2: button on the ends. Okay, So then you move into

514
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: the next place. At this point, do you now say, hey,

515
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: is this house haunted.

516
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 3: At this point? Anytime I enter any building, I.

517
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 4: Ask if it's haunted at this point, and uh yeah,

518
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 4: I did, and I remember the realtor said, uh no.

519
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 4: In my my next house, the realtor said, no deaths,

520
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 4: just a divorce. And I was like, Okay, I can

521
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 4: handle a divorce. I can handle that.

522
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: So what experiences have you had since then?

523
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was kind of like kind of the gateway.

524
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 4: I think that experience into kind of I think after

525
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 4: that I was just much more observant and I was

526
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 4: much more sensitive to to stuff. And another I think

527
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 4: another good another good story I can tell you was

528
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 4: we were shooting Glee at the Pasadena Red Cross and uh,

529
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 4: the Pasadena Red Cross is a beautiful building. It is

530
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 4: an old mansion that was converted that was donated to

531
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 4: the Red Cross and converted into like like a Red

532
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 4: Cross like headquarters for the city of Pasadena. And uh,

533
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 4: when I was shooting Glee, we used to shoot all

534
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 4: if anyone watched the show.

535
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 3: We used to shoot.

536
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 4: Uh, the Dalton Academy was was where was what we

537
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 4: used the passing the Red Cross to shoot. And I

538
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 4: remember I was I was outside, uh looking like I

539
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 4: was outside like the entrance.

540
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 3: Uh.

541
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 4: We were shooting a scene and waiting for waiting for

542
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 4: the director to call action. And Uh, in the scene,

543
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 4: I was just supposed to walk in through the front door,

544
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 4: and I'm I'm on my on my mark, just you know,

545
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 4: waiting for for the director to call action. And I

546
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 4: got this feeling that I was being watched, And which

547
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 4: is kind of strange because not only is there you know,

548
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 4: a million crew members behind me and around me, there

549
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 4: was also a you know, there was also like a

550
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 4: huge group of pop razzi at the gates of the

551
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 4: property snapping pictures. So it's just it was really strange

552
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 4: that I got the feeling that I was being watched then,

553
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 4: you know, because I was I was clearly being watched

554
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 4: for for for the whole day. But then I got

555
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 4: suddenly the eerie feeling that I was being watched and

556
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 4: I I look up, and I see an older woman

557
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 4: in the window of of of of the house.

558
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: And and.

559
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 4: I remember seeing her gave me chills. And I remember, actually,

560
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 4: there's a paparazzi photo of me the minute that I

561
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 4: looked up and saw her, which I think is kind

562
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 4: of interesting, and if anyone finds it, you'll you'll you

563
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 4: you'll know it's the photo I'm talking about because I look,

564
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 4: I look very scared and I steer them up anyway,

565
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 4: So I and I don't know, there was just something

566
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 4: strange about her, and and she didn't look like.

567
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: She was part of our crew.

568
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, we.

569
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 3: White, that's all I could see. They love white, right,

570
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: Just an older lady.

571
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 4: H just and I I because because it was daytime,

572
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 4: it was like it was like the window like was

573
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 4: really reflective. So I so so I I I I

574
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 4: only saw it. I couldn't see her very well, but

575
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 4: I but I definitely saw her.

576
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: And it was weird.

577
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 4: It was like one of those those things like when

578
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 4: you see something you also feel it at the same time.

579
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 4: Does that make any sense.

580
00:29:58,600 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.

581
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was almost like I was like feeling her

582
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 4: as much as I was seeing her. And anyway, so uh,

583
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 4: we should have seen blah blah blah, and and I

584
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 4: try to find that room in between setups. I tried

585
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 4: to find that that room that I saw this woman in,

586
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 4: and I'm kind of exploring the house and then I

587
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 4: realize it is uh it was it was the attic.

588
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 4: It was the attict that I that I saw her in,

589
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 4: and uh, either you know, there's bunch there's a bunch

590
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 4: of a bunch of uh like old antiques there. Things

591
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 4: were covered with sheets. It was like literally like it

592
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 4: was like like it couldn't have been more textbook addict totally.

593
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 3: And so I was thinking.

594
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 4: And then of course, because of my experiences at my

595
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 4: old house, I thought, oh god, is it happening again?

596
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 4: Did I just did I just see a ghost? So

597
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 4: I go to the location manager and I ask her, Hey,

598
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 4: can we find out if this place is haunted? And

599
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 4: she kind of gave me, like, you know, that weird

600
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 4: look that everyone gives you when you know, asked the

601
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 4: question like that, and she's like, uh, sure, get give me,

602
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 4: give me a few minutes.

603
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: Let me get right on that.

604
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so then and then and then a few uh,

605
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 4: I said, like twenty minutes later, she comes up to

606
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 4: me with a huge smile on her face and she's like,

607
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 4: you're not going to believe this, and I was like,

608
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 4: trust me, I will and she's like, this house, Uh,

609
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: this house is people claim this house is very haunted.

610
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 4: They they claim they've seen a woman roaming the hall,

611
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 4: an older woman roaming the halls. And it's actually been

612
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 4: on the show ghost Hunters. Oh my god, and I had.

613
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: I had never seen I swear I had never seen

614
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: that episode.

615
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: I just I.

616
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 4: Anyway, So again, that was that was confirmation for me that, okay,

617
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 4: so yeah, I experienced something that other people have also experienced.

618
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, for anyone that's never been to Pasadena,

619
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: it is just like gigantic old houses. Yeah, and so

620
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: many of them are haunted. There's tons of haunted places

621
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: in Pasadena. They just love it there.

622
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: They do.

623
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean it's very nice. I can't blame them.

624
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is nice.

625
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: Did you guys so you filmed a lot there? So

626
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: did did other people have experiences that you knew about?

627
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 4: I never actually asked anyone about it, because this is

628
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 4: actually when this happened. We were this was season five,

629
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 4: and I actually never went back there again. This is

630
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 4: this is actually the last time that I was there.

631
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 4: So maybe she was saying goodbye.

632
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh you should go visit her.

633
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 3: What a weird way to get in. Hi, I have

634
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: a I know the lady.

635
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: In the attic, I know the ghost here.

636
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I was thinking, I I did a

637
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: little research of my own and I found a clip

638
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: from when you were on Jimmy Fallon and you were

639
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: telling the story about a little alien that you encountered.

640
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: Can we hear that story?

641
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah, that's on my list. Yeah. So I I was,

642
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 3: I was, I was little.

643
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 4: I was I want to say about I forget. I

644
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 4: think it was like five or six or something like that,

645
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 4: and I had terrible bronchitis, and so I was hyped

646
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 4: up on on lots of uh, you know, cough syrup

647
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: and and whatnot. And I remember again waking up in

648
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 4: the middle of the night and uh there was a

649
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 4: little et standing at the foot of my bed and

650
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 4: he was very very cute, and I I remember it

651
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 4: was so strange because I as soon as I opened

652
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 4: them my eyes and I realized what I was looking at.

653
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 4: I was not afraid of it at all, which is

654
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 4: kind of funny because every time I've ever anytime that

655
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 4: that that experience has happened to me before or after,

656
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 4: I've always been very scared. But there there was something

657
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 4: about seeing this extraterrestrial that I I felt very almost comforted.

658
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: That that he was there or or she or or they,

659
00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: and uh yeah.

660
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 4: And uh I totally like again, it could have could

661
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 4: have been a hallucination, but kind of a very specific,

662
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 4: strange hallucination to have. And ever since then, I've I've

663
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 4: been fascinated by uh, you know, the alien theories and

664
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 4: and and uh UFOs and uh it's it's one of

665
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 4: my little hobbies to to research and and read about.

666
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: But what was it that made you think that it

667
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 2: was an alien as opposed to a ghost or anything else.

668
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: He had a huge head, huge eyes, he looked he

669
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 4: looked just like just like like the alien emoji.

670
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: Wow.

671
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, about I would say, about three and a

672
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 4: half feet tall, like bluish grayish skin oh uh and

673
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 4: uh yeah and then and yeah and uh but adorable,

674
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 4: absolutely adorable and and maybe maybe he was just so cute.

675
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: I wasn't afraid.

676
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: And so how did that one end? Did he did

677
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: he walk out the room or what happened?

678
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 4: Same same as my ghost experiences later on it was faded. Wow,

679
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 4: which again I which anyone, you know, any skeptics listening,

680
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 4: would say, okay, clearly, if you know you have the

681
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 4: same thing happened to you more than once, it's probably medical.

682
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 3: It's not it's not you know, uh, it's not supernatural.

683
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: But oh come on, well, I I think I.

684
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 3: Think it was real because I you know, I it's

685
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 3: a lot of fun. I think it was real.

686
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, Well because when I was watching the

687
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: clip with Jimmy Fallon, you were saying that it was

688
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: kind of, uh telepathic communication between the two of you.

689
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was kind of like I just I,

690
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 4: like I said, like, I knew he was I knew

691
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 4: they were there. They weren't there to hurt me, and

692
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 4: I knew they just were there to say basically, hey,

693
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 4: feel better.

694
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: Have you have you heard about this documentary called The Phenomenon?

695
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,280
Speaker 3: Yes, it's on is it Discovery Plus?

696
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, which I'm obsessed with Discovery Plus because it

697
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 2: has all these paranormal shows and stuff, but that one

698
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 2: has this story that I had never heard before of

699
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: these kids in Zimbabwe that were at school and they

700
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 2: were doing recess and all of a sudden, this UFO

701
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: came down and basically what you described came out of

702
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:32,479
Speaker 2: the craft and had telepathic communication with them, and all

703
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: of these children experienced it, and there was I guess

704
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 2: in the nineties.

705
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 1: This was in nineteen eighty four.

706
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: The BBC did an interview with the children and the

707
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: kids seem very like, very convinced, and there are a

708
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: lot of them that experienced this. And then in this

709
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: documentary the phenomenon, they go back and they catch up

710
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: with the kids and it just reminded me so much

711
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: of that story when I heard yours.

712
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I gotta finish. I think I started

713
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 4: it but never finished it, So I definitely got to

714
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 4: check that out.

715
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's right towards the end of it. It's it's

716
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: so cool.

717
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, And a very similar thing happened in I think

718
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 4: it was either it was either Australia or New Zealand,

719
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 4: like I can't remember, but where these kids were playing

720
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 4: at recess and there was like fifty of them, you know,

721
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 4: playing soccer or something and a saucer flew by and

722
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 4: they all saw it. And to this day, they all,

723
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 4: they all, every single one of them, it still claims

724
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 4: that they you know, they saw what they saw. And

725
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 4: it's always great when you know someone else is there,

726
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 4: so you know you don't feel you know, you don't

727
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 4: feel crazy.

728
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: Right.

729
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 2: Well, that's what's so great about the stories that you've

730
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: told about your ghost stuff is that it seems like

731
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 2: you've gotten a little bit of validation that that stuff

732
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: that other people have experienced.

733
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

734
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I mean I absolutely believe in in aliens.

735
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 4: I think aliens are kind of like the exact opposite

736
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 4: of Sanna. You know, we're like like when we're as

737
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 4: we grow up, like we slowly start to realize Sanna

738
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 4: isn't real.

739
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 3: But with aliens, it's.

740
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 4: Like, as we grow up, we slowly start to realize,

741
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 4: oh no, they these things are real.

742
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: Right. And I think that they they come in peace.

743
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: That's my vida two.

744
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, two.

745
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 4: I think they're so so far advanced that they have

746
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 4: no reason to mess with us. I mean, if anything,

747
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 4: I think they're just they're they're just checking on us,

748
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 4: very much like we would check, you know, on rhinos

749
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 4: in the wild.

750
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: Right, But I'm starting to think after these billionaires are

751
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: going into outer space, I'm like, what if aliens are

752
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: just like billionaires on their planet that are just kind

753
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 2: of going on vacation to look at us?

754
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, teenagers with the keys to their parents' car.

755
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: That's what I always say.

756
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like they're just like, let's go look

757
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 2: at these idiots on Earth that are just like, you know,

758
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 2: fighting and killing their planet and.

759
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 4: Would be funny, like like the Roswell incident is like

760
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 4: they're like drunk driving Awareness month.

761
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 2: Seriously, it's like, yeah, this is what happens if you

762
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 2: don't pay attention to your craft. So what what else

763
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: is on that list you got over there?

764
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

765
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 4: Okay, so I've got okay, all right, well I guess

766
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 4: I guess, I guess I can. I can finish my

767
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 4: ghost list and then literally just like you and you

768
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 4: can edit this however you want, but I mean, I'll

769
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 4: just give you everything I've got.

770
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: Okay.

771
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, So the next one, I've had. My my mom

772
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 4: passed away in twenty sixteen, and I've had some very

773
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:45,479
Speaker 4: strange experiences that me and my family and my friends

774
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 4: are convinced are it is absolutely her, her ghosts saying

775
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 4: saying hello for one my when my dad remarried. My

776
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 4: my dad remarried a few years after she passed in

777
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 4: to a one ful, wonderful woman I have, I have

778
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 4: a I have a wonderful stepmother.

779
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: But she.

780
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 4: Kept finding her engagement ring in the trash can and

781
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 4: couldn't figure out how it was getting there. So we

782
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 4: always joked that my mom wasn't really happy that my

783
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 4: dad was was remarrying.

784
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 3: With me. Though there was one.

785
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 4: Time because I used to love teasing my mom because

786
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 4: because she would get so she would get so flustered

787
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 4: whenever I tease her. And uh, my, my boyfriend and

788
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 4: I were sitting at our dining table actually where I'm

789
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 4: sitting right now, and uh, we were just, you know,

790
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 4: reminiscing about her and and you know, kind of kind

791
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 4: of kind of teasing her as if as if she

792
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 4: was there and her I have her ashes in a

793
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 4: in a shelf on a bookcase.

794
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: Uh.

795
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 4: Next, this is this is a lot of details, so

796
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 4: so so bear with me. Her ashes are on a

797
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 4: on a shelf on my on my bookcase, next to

798
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 4: a lamb that was made from her a stuft animal

799
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 4: lamb that's made from her wedding dress. Oh, it's cute,

800
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 4: very cute, very cute. When I was a kid, I

801
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 4: had a lamb that was like my it was my

802
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 4: teddy bear. So when my my my mom passed away,

803
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 4: my dad had things made for me and my sister

804
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 4: out of her, like pillows and stuffed animals out.

805
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: Of her wedding dress. And it's very very pretty.

806
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 4: Anyway, So we're sitting here and we're my boyfriend I

807
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 4: were sitting here, and we were we were, we were

808
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 4: you know, kind of rising her a little bit, and suddenly,

809
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 4: out of nowhere, the lamb just gets knocked off the shelf.

810
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 4: And it like like there was no there was no

811
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 4: explanation for it. So it was a deep shelf like

812
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 4: it it always sits in the very very very back

813
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 4: of the shelf. So even if it had fallen over,

814
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 4: it wouldn't have fallen off the shelf.

815
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: Does that make sense.

816
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would have just fallen you know, it would

817
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 4: have you know, been lopsided in the shelf. But this

818
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 4: was like as if as if as if it had

819
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 4: been kicked out from out of the shelf. It kind

820
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 4: of it came flying out again and that was that

821
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 4: was great because I had someone here who witnessed it

822
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 4: with me. Yeah, and so we were just like, okay,

823
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 4: I guess she didn't didn't like that joke. And then

824
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 4: uh another story involving my mom. Uh and this this,

825
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 4: this one, this one is great. I actually wasn't present

826
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 4: for this one, but it's it's a great story. I Uh,

827
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 4: I bought a beach house in this the kind of

828
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 4: like the near the Santa Barbara area a few years ago,

829
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 4: and uh, I used to always joke that it was

830
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 4: my mom's house because she always ended up using it

831
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 4: more than I did. It seemed like she was there

832
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 4: every weekend with a new group of friends and uh

833
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 4: a few about a year after she died, I got

834
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 4: a call from my neighbor up there that said, you know,

835
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 4: your your garage is is malfunctioning. It just it just

836
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 4: keeps opening and closing, opening and closing, opening and closing.

837
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 4: So my assistant, Heather, went up to see what the

838
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 4: problem was and she tried to close it. She tried

839
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 4: to fix it, and she couldn't. It just kept opening

840
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 4: and closing, opening and closing. So she called the technician

841
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 4: to come out and look at it. And he came

842
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: out and he looked at it and looked at it,

843
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 4: and he could not figure out what the problem was.

844
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 4: And he concluded that the something something microscopic in the

845
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 4: like the microchip of the uh you know, of the

846
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 4: of the what do you call it, the the pad

847
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 4: that you know that where you hit the button to

848
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 4: open and close the barage. He said that something my

849
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,959
Speaker 4: microscopic must have broken and uh, the term they use

850
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 4: for that is called ghosting, when when it's something so

851
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 4: small they can't receive it, but it's causing the machinery

852
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: to malfunction.

853
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll have my lawyers get in contact with them.

854
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 4: Ghosting and anyway, so he explained this to my assistant, Heather,

855
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 4: and he he's he replaced, He replaced the microchip and

856
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 4: it started working fine. And on his way out, he said, oh,

857
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 4: by the way, you know, it was nice to meet you,

858
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 4: Karen to my assistant. And my mom's name was Karen,

859
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 4: what right, right? And so Heather, my assistant, apparently, she

860
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 4: said she just froze, went pale, and she was like,

861
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 4: that's not my name. And then and then she was like,

862
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 4: but like we always joke that a woman named Karen.

863
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: Her spirit is at this place. We joke about it.

864
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 4: All the time, and she said the guy got so

865
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: freaked out. He just he just was like, let's not

866
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 4: talk about this and drove off.

867
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: Why did he think that she was Karen?

868
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: Isn't that insane?

869
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know.

870
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 4: That's that's pretty I mean, And like I said, I

871
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 4: wasn't there. I didn't see it, but I mean, what

872
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 4: a story.

873
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: Whoa you know?

874
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: That's like, okay, I had this story happened one time

875
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 2: that I've told on the show, and I'll just tell

876
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: you briefly, Like I had this experience where I was

877
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: staying in a friend's house that I kind of knew

878
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: was a little bit haunted, and I had an experience

879
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night where like a door,

880
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 2: the closet door opened and whatever.

881
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: And then I woke up.

882
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: The next day and I had in my brain the

883
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 2: name of what the ghost was.

884
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: And my friend didn't know that she had.

885
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 2: She had actually just found out that that's what the

886
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: ghosts name was, and she was like, how did you

887
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: know that? And I'm like, I don't know, it was

888
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: just in my head. That's just what I thought the ghosts.

889
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 2: I just had it in my head.

890
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah, you know, I this the story

891
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 4: I told you. I know, I know exactly what mean

892
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 4: the story that I told you about the Red Cross

893
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 4: in Pasadena. For whatever reason, I just I knew the

894
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 4: lady that I was looking at. I just knew her

895
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 4: name started with the sea. I don't know why, it

896
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 4: just it just like it popped into my head, like

897
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 4: like it just entered my mind. And then I asked

898
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 4: the location manager, you know what the name of the

899
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 4: the the family who was who lived there, who donated

900
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 4: the house to the Red Cross, And she said they

901
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 4: were they were called the Craven family with with with

902
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 4: the c oh. I know exactly what you're talking about.

903
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 4: It It's strange what what what we pick up on.

904
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 1: I think that both of us are psychics.

905
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 2: I think that we like like I think you and

906
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: I both have because what you're the kind of stories

907
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: that you're telling me are kinds that I've had in

908
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: my life where I think that goes. I think ghosts

909
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: like us, and I think that if we wanted to,

910
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: we could actually be like real psychics. Like I think

911
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: that I think.

912
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I I have been told by many psychics

913
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 4: that I'm psychic.

914
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: Psych I've ever been to. They're like, if you wanted to,

915
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: you could steal all of our business.

916
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, I'm one of us.

917
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really want to be a psychic, but.

918
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: It seems like it take a lot of work.

919
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's just too much. I don't want

920
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: to know everything about everything. And you know, I mean,

921
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: have you had a lot of experiences with psychics.

922
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 4: Well, one of my best friends in the entire world

923
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 4: is is a psychic. Her name is shar And I

924
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 4: char Margole Is. She's incredible. She she she had she

925
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 4: had her own show on Will Plus the reading reading

926
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 4: for queens, and she is uh famously she she, I

927
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 4: don't know if you know the story about when a

928
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 4: Dean Martin's brother UH died in a plane crash off

929
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 4: the coast of Hawaii, and UH the search and rescue

930
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 4: UH searched for his body for days and days, and

931
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 4: they were desperate, and so they called shar and she

932
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 4: walked into the search and rescue headquarters and pointed to

933
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 4: a map and said, he's here, and they found him

934
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 4: that afternoon. WHOA, Yeah, so UH and they're actually actually

935
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 4: making a documentary about it right now, So, uh, that'll

936
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 4: be fun when that when that comes out.

937
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's one psychic ability that I would

938
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 2: love to have, to be able to find things.

939
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she like, she's I mean you you got

940
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 4: to have her on on on your show. I think

941
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 4: I think, I think you would get along. I'll make

942
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 4: the connection happen. But she also used to work, uh,

943
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 4: used to work for for the police and and like

944
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 4: these they used to like like like Mike mike her

945
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 4: and wire her and send her into into places and

946
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 4: she would pick up on things and and help help

947
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 4: detectives and stuff.

948
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 3: So she's she's got a lot of amazing stories.

949
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: Did it ever appeal to you to do like Tyler

950
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 2: Henry or you know, any of these celebrity psychic shows,

951
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 2: It did?

952
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 4: I you know, when like like like I've definitely had

953
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 4: offers to do like like him and and the Long

954
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 4: Island Medium and and whatnot. And I I find I

955
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 4: believe in all that so much.

956
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: I just don't.

957
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 4: I just I wouldn't be very comfortable being that vulnerable

958
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 4: on camera.

959
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: Right, I mean it gets heavy, it.

960
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 4: Gets really heavy, and and so I mean like like

961
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 4: like stories like this. I think I have no problem

962
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 4: telling anyone because I think they're fun and and and

963
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 4: uh and and whatnot. But yeah, I just like I

964
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 4: don't know, I I don't I don't want my my

965
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 4: deceased relatives spilling all, you know, telling all my secrets.

966
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah totally.

967
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: So have you had other extraterrestrial type experiences, you know.

968
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: I've had.

969
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: I've had some some.

970
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 4: Crazy dreams, uh where I've been like a board UFOs

971
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 4: and whatnot. Never like anything cool like where I'm being

972
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 4: experimented on. It's it's more like it's more like, oh, crap,

973
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 4: how do you get in here?

974
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 3: Kind of a kind of a thing. But I did

975
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 3: see a UFO for the first time last year.

976
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: It keeps getting better, I know, I know, I.

977
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 3: Mean I I sound like a lunatic And that's okay.

978
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 2: Now you don't not here if you were on like

979
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: I don't know c Span right now being interviewed, Yes,

980
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 2: but yeah right now.

981
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 4: And I for the record, if I wanted attention, there

982
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 4: are many many avenues I could I could.

983
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: Pursue, trust me, Yeah, totally.

984
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 4: But uh yeah, And I think I think I'm actually

985
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 4: because I have a book coming out this, uh, this

986
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 4: this uh this fall. So I think i'll have to

987
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 4: I'll have to uh when I promoted, I'll have to,

988
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 4: you know, let show that she led the tonight show

989
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 4: showed the video or something because because I took a

990
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 4: video of it.

991
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 1: Actually, oh my god, Okay, So what happened.

992
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 3: So I was leaving, I was leaving. I forget. Actually

993
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 3: it wasn't last year, I think it was.

994
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 4: It was might have been in January actually January of

995
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 4: this year, and I was leaving.

996
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 3: Or was I leaving I was? I forget where I

997
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: was leaving.

998
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,479
Speaker 4: But anyway, I was stepping out, and I was wearing

999
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 4: sunglasses and I look up in the sky, and had

1000
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 4: I not been wearing sunglasses, I would not have seen it,

1001
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 4: because it blended into the.

1002
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 3: Sky pretty well. But it was just like this.

1003
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 4: It was this this white like it looked like a

1004
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 4: like a like a cylind, like a cylinder, very small,

1005
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 4: just hovering in the air, and it was it was

1006
00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 4: bobbing from side to side.

1007
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 3: It wasn't moving with the wind.

1008
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 4: It was it was it was upright and it was

1009
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 4: just it was just it was just chillin in the

1010
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 4: sky and I wasn't sure what it was so I

1011
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 4: took a video of it, and uh, you know, sent

1012
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 4: it to a lot of my sent a lot of

1013
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 4: my friends, you know, and they all congratulated me on

1014
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 4: my my first UFO side because they they knew what

1015
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 4: a milestone.

1016
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 3: It was for me.

1017
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: This was here in California.

1018
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 4: It was here in California, in Los Angeles, and then

1019
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 4: later that later that afternoon. It's funny because they is

1020
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 4: when I think it was. I think it was American.

1021
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 4: The American Airlines pilots in Arizona reported seeing a cylinder

1022
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 4: flying over Arizona. So I remember, I remember it was

1023
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 4: the same exact day, and uh, luckily, like our iPhones

1024
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 4: date everything, so I was able, you know, I was

1025
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 4: able to to make that connection.

1026
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: There's this other thing with UFOs that people believe, which

1027
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 2: is that there's some people that UFOs and aliens like

1028
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: keep up with, you know, and maybe maybe you'll have

1029
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 2: a series of those experiences.

1030
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 4: I hope so, because because God, like I said, they're

1031
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 4: they're my favorite thing to talk about. Like I just

1032
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 4: it's such a passion project imagining.

1033
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, you experienced one at such a

1034
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 2: young age.

1035
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, maybe maybe maybe maybe that's not a mole

1036
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 4: on my on my neck.

1037
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: Maybe that's a tracking device.

1038
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know what I was reading? Frank

1039
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: Dresher says that she like had an experience with an

1040
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 2: alien like that.

1041
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: Really.

1042
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if it's legit or not, but

1043
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 2: I read it online, so it's probably.

1044
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, there there's a there's a there's a

1045
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 4: great story about uh.

1046
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 3: I think it was.

1047
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 4: It was a party at Lucilla Ball's house. Ronald Reagan

1048
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 4: came came to the party. Uh you know, back this

1049
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 4: was he was long before he was even you know,

1050
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 4: thinking about politics. He was just you know, an actor

1051
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 4: in westerns. He came to the party, it kind of disheveled,

1052
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 4: and they asked him what was wrong, and he said

1053
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 4: that he had he had encountered uh, extraterrestrials like on Mulholland,

1054
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 4: and one of them told him he was going to

1055
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 4: be president.

1056
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: What.

1057
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, isn't that nuts?

1058
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: But I've never heard that story.

1059
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah. Have you ever been to Alien con?

1060
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: No?

1061
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: Have you?

1062
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, treat yourself.

1063
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 1: Where is that in Roswell?

1064
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 3: Uh? The one I went to, Although I have I

1065
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 3: have been to Roswell.

1066
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 4: I went to Roswell on vacation because I'm eccentric and

1067
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 4: I loved I took it. I took a tour of

1068
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 4: Roswell Tours by Dennis. I highly recommend. He will give

1069
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 4: you all the information you ever you ever want. But no,

1070
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 4: I went to Alien con I think it's actually it

1071
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 4: was in Pasadena, of all, randomly a few years back,

1072
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 4: and it was, Oh my god, it.

1073
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 3: Was I mean it was.

1074
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 4: It was kind of like a cheesy convention, but just

1075
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 4: the people watching is phenomenal.

1076
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: Oh of course, that's like.

1077
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 4: The Q and A section at the panels are like

1078
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 4: fascinating and and you know, you know people they always

1079
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 4: use the Q and A in those those those scenarios

1080
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 4: to just talk about themselves, and oh my god, it

1081
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 4: was just it was it was a gift.

1082
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 2: So when it comes to UFOs and aliens, like, so,

1083
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 2: what do you believe? Do you believe that they live

1084
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 2: on another planet in outer space and they come here?

1085
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: Because sometimes I have these beliefs that what if they

1086
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: like live here.

1087
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 3: M yeah, I go back and forth.

1088
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 4: I I think I honestly, my theory is is actually

1089
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 4: maybe they're just they're just a very very evolved form

1090
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 4: of us you know, I've always because you know, when

1091
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 4: you when you look at when you look at like

1092
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 4: the you know, the the evolutionary diagram of of you know,

1093
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 4: you know, chimps evolving into human beings. You know, the

1094
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 4: the further that our species progresses, it's like the less

1095
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 4: hairy we get, the big the bigger our heads become,

1096
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 4: the bigger our eyes become, and uh, you know, the

1097
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 4: more we lose digits, like you know, fingers and tails

1098
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 4: and whatnot. And so if you put like the traditional

1099
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 4: depiction of an alien.

1100
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 3: On that on that that that what do you call it?

1101
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 3: That that chart?

1102
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you could see actually how we could actually evolve

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Speaker 4: into that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because there is always kind of that feeling of

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00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 2: like they're at the zoo or something right when they're

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00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 2: looking at us, and it's like, yeah, what if they

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00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 2: are more evolved versions of Do you want to hear

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Speaker 2: some ghost voices?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, it's time.

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Speaker 2: For EVP.

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00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: Or ev plice. So you know how this works.

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Speaker 2: I go to YouTube and I look up e VP

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00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 2: is Electronic voice phenomenal AKA people on the Internet that

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Speaker 2: believe they have captured ghosts speaking. And I'll give you

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Speaker 2: some options. First, let me know what you hear, and

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00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 2: we'll try to figure out what these ghost hunters believe

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00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 2: their ghost is saying. So this first one comes from

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00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: the it's called American Paranormal Research Association. That sounds very

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Speaker 2: official on YouTube. And this is at Murphy's Historic Hotel,

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Speaker 2: which is in Murphy's, California. And let's see if you

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00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: can hear anything.

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00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Always I give the benefit of the doubt, especially because

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00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: we're doing this over zoom.

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Speaker 1: It might be hard to hear, but we'll try. All right,

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00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: here we go.

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00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it happened so fast. We've played again.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, oh my god, I have no It kind

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00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 5: of sounds like almost like I cash me.

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00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 1: Outside, catch me outside? How about that? Yeah? I mean

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00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: it's definitely.

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00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: It sounds like kind of a higher pitch voice from

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00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: a distance, uh, saying like kind of a sentence.

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00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: Play it again.

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00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 4: It's almost like uh like like like uh, you know

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00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 4: the song Booty Booty Booty Booty Rock and everywhere. That's

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00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 4: that's it seems like they they say the first the

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00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 4: first lyrics and they give up.

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00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 2: I think it sounds like that Madonna song what are

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00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: you looking at?

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00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: Oh?

1142
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I hear. Wait, let me play it again.

1143
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: What are you looking at?

1144
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 3: I agree with you. I think that's that's the closest thing.

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00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 2: Yes, well, I have some other options, so it's one

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00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 2: of these. Is that A? What A my freaking plants?

1147
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 2: Maybe they're going out of town and they want you

1148
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 2: to water the plants. I don't know, is it nicely?

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00:57:59,360 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 2: At least that was more of a demand. Okay, how

1151
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 2: about B? What do you think you're doing?

1152
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: Is it C? I wonder about you? Or D?

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00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: What if I got highlights? Maybe they're thinking about, you know,

1154
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 2: switching it up?

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00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 3: What was was option B?

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00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 2: What do you think you're doing? I would say that, Okay,

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00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:27,959
Speaker 2: let me play it again. Yeah that's what they think

1158
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 2: it says, and I actually kind of hear it.

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00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 3: Yeah I hear. I definitely heard that.

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00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: What do you think you're doing?

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00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 2: Okay, here's one more, and this one is from Oklahoma

1162
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: Ghost Chasers and I couldn't figure out what the location was.

1163
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: So at someplace with a ghost and here's a ghost speaking.

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00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: What is it saying?

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00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 2: Okay, this one's more of a whisper with a lot

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00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 2: of background noise, but it's yeah, it's a whispery kind

1167
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: of a ghost. I'll played again. Do you hear anything

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00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 2: one more time?

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00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 4: I can't make out anything like like if anything. It

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00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 4: kind of seems like a It kind of sounds like

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00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 4: who are you gonna try?

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Speaker 1: Who are you gonna call? Ghosts? Boasters? Yeah, it's one

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Speaker 1: more time.

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Speaker 3: No, no, No, that's a tough one.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it sounds like terminator, terminator. Okay, let

1176
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: me give you some options. Is it a turtle head, B,

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00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 2: you better back up, C, turn that off?

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00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: Or D. My attorney just called.

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00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 3: Well I respect D the most.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: It says turn that off, turn that off. Okay, Okay,

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01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 2: now that we know that, let's hear it again.

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01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I can hear that.

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01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: Now turn that off? Yeah, I can hear it. I

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01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: can hear it. Well, I think that's about it.

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Speaker 2: I think we got a full episode of amazing stories here.

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01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: I am so grateful that you.

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Speaker 4: Didn't shut up. Thank you so much for giving me

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Speaker 4: a safe place.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's perfect. And so what's going on

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Speaker 2: with you? You got another book coming out? I mean

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01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 2: this is number what now? You've written so many?

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01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is number eighteen for me.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations you are my niece, my niece, Ella's favorite author.

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Speaker 1: Oh shout out to Ella.

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Speaker 4: Hi Ella, thank you so much, so yeah, so yeah,

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Speaker 4: another book coming. I just had a graphic novel come

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Speaker 4: out last month called Goldilocks Wanted Dead or Alive. And

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Speaker 4: my new book, A Tale of Sorcery is the third

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Speaker 4: book in my new in my A Tale of Magic series,

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Speaker 4: so that I'll be hitting shelves in September.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much to Chris Cole for for

1204
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Speaker 2: how did I get so lucky?

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Speaker 1: And if you want to hear.

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01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: Just a little bit more where I talk to Chris

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Speaker 2: about haunted dolls, bigfoots, deemons, you know, that kind of

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01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 2: other otherworldly other stuff and cryptid creatures and that sort

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Speaker 2: of a thing. I have a little clip on my

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Speaker 2: Patreon patreon dot com slash ross dress Fules. You can

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Speaker 2: also watch a video of me talking about haunted eBay dolls.

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Speaker 1: Hey are you subscribed to the show. Please subscribe?

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Speaker 2: Rate the show five stars and if you have a

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01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 2: ghost story, you could leave it in a five star review,

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01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 2: or you could just write something nice, or you could

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Speaker 2: send me a ghost story to ghosted by Roz at

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Speaker 2: gmail dot com with the subject line listen episode, and

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Speaker 2: maybe I could have you on an upcoming listener episode.

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Speaker 2: I as have a Facebook group called Ghosted by Roz

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Speaker 2: dres Falaes and hey, spooky season is getting real, real close,

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Speaker 2: so help me spread the word about this fun show

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Speaker 2: we do over here. I am on Instagram at Roz

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Speaker 2: Hernandez cameo Roz dress Flaz. I love you all, both

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Speaker 2: living and dead.

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Speaker 1: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't

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Speaker 1: haunt me. Hey, back Star a podcast network