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Speaker 1: Speaks to the planet Charlamagne to God here and as

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Speaker 1: we come close the closing out this year, I just

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Speaker 1: want to say thank you for tuning it into the

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Speaker 1: Black Effect Podcast Network. There have been so many great

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Speaker 1: moments over the past year. Take a listen to some

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Speaker 1: of those captivating moments in this special best of episode.

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Speaker 2: So this episode, I'm talking to C. David Moody Junior,

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Speaker 2: the president. You're CEO of CD Moody Construction, one of

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Speaker 2: the largest black honed construction companies in the nation. This

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Speaker 2: was such a pleasure to do. His career spans over

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Speaker 2: three decades. He's built iconic projects that you know for sure,

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Speaker 2: like the Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta, Maynard AH Jackson

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Speaker 2: they worked on, Phillips Serena, they worked on like all

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Speaker 2: the stuff that's iconic. He probably had his head in

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Speaker 2: it and he's been doing it while navigating the complexities

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Speaker 2: of the construction industry. So it's such a pleasure to

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Speaker 2: talk to you. And I want to start this off

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Speaker 2: with talking about the differences in like hand to hand

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Speaker 2: sales and like doing big business like you're doing today.

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Speaker 2: What is the difference between winning a customer and winning

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Speaker 3: Realistically, to me, they're the same because it's about relationships.

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Speaker 3: It's about people trusting you. People believe in that you

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Speaker 3: can deliver the product that they want. So to me,

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Speaker 3: whether it's a small or big, you know, project or

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Speaker 3: winning a customer, the dollar size doesn't matter because to

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Speaker 2: To that end, And I was reading your story like

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Speaker 2: you started with a team of three people, you know,

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Speaker 2: doing concrete foundations in underground in Atlanta. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I think about when I read that part of your story,

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Speaker 2: you know, for sending black owned businesses still today just

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Speaker 2: about have employees. Ninety six percent of our businesses have

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Speaker 2: so proprietors and et cetera. How did you figure out

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Speaker 4: You know, that's that's almost like a trick question.

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Speaker 3: And the reason I say that, you got to think

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Speaker 3: about When I started my business, I was thirty one

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Speaker 3: You know, sometime you start businesses and get into things

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize the wear and tear of making payroll,

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Speaker 3: I was naive because if I knew the wear and

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Speaker 3: No, I probably wouldn't have. Could have been too scary.

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Speaker 3: And then once you're in, I had to feed my family,

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Speaker 3: so I couldn't quit. But there are many times I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm living that life right now. And what's so

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Speaker 2: interesting is I learned this one principle that I hold

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Speaker 2: And I'm going to ask your thoughts on this is

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Speaker 2: if I would have learned to reinvest the money earlier,

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Speaker 2: And so the thing I learned was about reinvesting the profits.

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Speaker 3: You know, I was kind of I was fortunate even

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Speaker 3: So we really I just always had the rainy day

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Speaker 2: To that point, do you think that what we're being

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Speaker 3: I think social media has its great benefits, but I

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm a graduate of Moorhouse College at Howard University,

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Speaker 4: But by the twentieth reunion, it was a different ball game.

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Speaker 3: So that's why you got to be so careful kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like most impossible to do these days,

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Speaker 4: For me, It's all about who you are.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm very fortunate my wife and now

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Speaker 3: We've always lived a very simple life, you know my wife.

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Speaker 3: Yes we got nice things, don't get me wrong. But

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Speaker 4: You got to protect your piece.

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Speaker 3: And I'm fortunate enough with a wife that when i

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Speaker 4: Time is not because I didn't do something I was

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Speaker 2: Rain Ventures is an early stage investment firm that focuses

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Speaker 2: startups with high potential founders. Moniquide lets the founder and

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Speaker 2: Monique is a globally recognized entertainment pioneer. Prior to founding

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Speaker 2: rain Venture Capital, she served as CEO the Mosly Brands

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Speaker 2: Eric has been an active investor and advised it to

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Speaker 2: You know, and I imagine you did not imagine that

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Speaker 5: What does this look like investing? What does this look like,

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Speaker 5: of just to be honest, it was frustrating to me

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Speaker 5: also we're doing all the work, but what was what

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Speaker 2: So when you think about the myriad of opportunities you

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Speaker 6: Because it's not what I need, it's what the people need,

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Speaker 2: So it's talking about how you stayed on the Miami Heat,

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Speaker 6: stayed in my lane, and my lane always brought me

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Speaker 6: back to the people, you know what I mean. And

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Speaker 6: when you talk about why you don't leave to go

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Speaker 6: for more money, and why you don't even have the

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Speaker 6: opportunity to play somewhere else, and when your career was

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Speaker 6: getting towards the ending, you weren't getting as much playing

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Speaker 6: time as you might have wanted, it's because of the

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Speaker 6: people of Miami. Man, I've never got in love. I've

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Speaker 6: never been more protected. I've never been more accepted than

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Speaker 6: I am in this city of Miami by these people.

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Speaker 6: When you talk about twenty years in the NBA and

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Speaker 6: so much sustens I ain't never have no security. You

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Speaker 6: ain't never seen me get robbed nowhere. You never see

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Speaker 6: me get in no trouble nowhere out here. You know,

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Speaker 6: these people take care of me.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 6: So it's my job, it's my duty with my free time,

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Speaker 6: to commit to taking care of these people and giving

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Speaker 6: back to them that so much that they've given to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to talk more about that. You know,

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Speaker 2: you are today vice president of basketball Development at Miami

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Speaker 2: and so you got a lot of leadership in your

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Speaker 2: background on court and off the court, and I want

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Speaker 2: to talk about the off the court leadership. How do

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Speaker 2: you transfer the things that you've learned on the court

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Speaker 2: to be able to be effective off the court.

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Speaker 4: Man, I'll tell you one thing about heat culture.

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Speaker 6: And it's real because it can apply in all expects

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Speaker 6: of life. The discipline that it takes to be a

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Speaker 6: part of heat culture to come in and have your

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Speaker 6: body for under ten percent every year, discipline that it

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Speaker 6: takes to push yourself to get that extra one percent

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Speaker 6: out of yourself every day.

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Speaker 4: You know, the way we are proach the game. You know,

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 6: Everything that I've learned and he coachedes been what I've

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Speaker 6: applied in the business.

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Speaker 4: In the business space.

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Speaker 6: I think when you retire from basketball, you don't lose

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Speaker 6: your ambition, you don't lose your drive.

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Speaker 4: You just got to find somewhere else to apply it.

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Speaker 4: You just got to find somewhere else to put it.

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Speaker 6: So being in that one percent of people that are

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Speaker 6: obsessed with winning, being in that one percent of people

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Speaker 6: that will do whatever it takes to get the job done,

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Speaker 6: Being in that one percent of people that willing to

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Speaker 6: sacrifice the things that they need to sacrifice for the

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Speaker 6: betterment of the team. You know, we talk about enjoying

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Speaker 6: other people's success with the might need. That's one thing

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Speaker 6: that's non negotiable. You have to be able to enjoy

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Speaker 6: other people's success. But how many times do you see

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Speaker 6: people sit at home and they watch somebody achieve something.

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Speaker 6: They said that should have been me. Why didn't that

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Speaker 6: happen for me? That's never been a part of who

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Speaker 6: I am. That's never been a part of my DNA. Man,

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Speaker 6: My thing is, if he did that, how can I

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Speaker 6: figure out how to apply that in my lifestyle?

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Speaker 4: How can I figure out how to achieve that here

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Speaker 4: in Miami?

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Speaker 6: For my people, that's been always to go to learn

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Speaker 6: from the people that are doing it before you, to

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Speaker 6: learn from the Magic, to learn from the Wayne, to

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Speaker 6: learn from Shack.

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Speaker 4: You know, having these relationship with.

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Speaker 6: These guys, I'd be a fool just to take basketball

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Speaker 6: stuff from you guys. I have to take life lessons

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Speaker 6: from these guys. I have to take business lessons from

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Speaker 6: these guys. The conversations that I have now with Shaquille

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Speaker 6: O'Neil Dwayne Wade were far different than the conversations we

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Speaker 6: had fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 2: You know, too many people in our communities lean on

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Speaker 2: rely on predatory services, check cashing places, payday loans, you know,

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Speaker 2: places like that, and so, you know, which is super problematic.

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Speaker 2: So how important is it for bangs like Wells Fargo,

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Speaker 2: lenders like Wells Fargo to be involved in these neighborhoods

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Speaker 2: and in these communities.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's so important because.

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Speaker 6: We understand that financial literacy kind of skipped over people sometimes.

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Speaker 6: You know, for the most part, you know, financial literacy

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Speaker 6: has not been taught. And then you talk about teaching

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Speaker 6: people financial literacy, but people that don't have money or

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Speaker 6: didn't comfort money, you know what I'm saying. So I

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Speaker 6: think for Wells Fargo being you know, not only you know,

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Speaker 6: hands on with this and you know, putting their money

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Speaker 6: where their mouths is and committing one point too, you know,

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Speaker 6: seventy five different homes, you know, forty six communities, but

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Speaker 6: not also you're building a relationship. And I think what

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Speaker 6: for us in our community, It's always been hard for

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Speaker 6: us to trust people, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 6: when you come in and you make an impact in

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Speaker 6: the community, immediately the people of the community started to

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Speaker 6: trust you. And now they started to listen to you,

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Speaker 6: and now you start to build that relationship so on

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Speaker 6: and so forth. So I think it was Fargo coming

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Speaker 6: in and being a part of this process and taking

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Speaker 6: the lead on this initiative. I think they started to

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Speaker 6: build a relationship with the people now. I think that

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Speaker 6: people started to trust well, was Fargo. So the messages

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Speaker 6: that was farg preaching the people are going to listen

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Speaker 6: now because of the trust and the relationship that they

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Speaker 6: built with these people, because they're actually doing things in

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Speaker 6: the community and not.

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Speaker 4: Talking about it.

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