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Speaker 1: to get it grated because he's nervous about sending it

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Speaker 1: in and then getting lost in the mail or something.

428
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Speaker 1: So he just he puts in his safety deposit box.

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Speaker 1: That's where it is. He says, I go to the

430
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Speaker 1: bank every once in a while and look at it,

431
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 1: but oh, I just wouldn't looked at Tom at the

432
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Speaker 1: at the bank talk about an investment though. I mean,

433
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 1: he said, I call Tom Brady my pension, which I

434
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: think is hilarious. Um And and as if that wasn't

435
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 1: enough Tom Brady news there is that. We didn't have

436
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: a chance to get to this on yesterday's show, but

437
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: it is pretty startling stuff that Brady, according to reports,

438
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: almost became a Dolphins part owner slash player, which could

439
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: you imagine that I was reading that and I was like,

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00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: there is no way. Well, no longer under contract to

441
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: the Bucks. And according to some of these reports, Maddie

442
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: so he announced his retirement February first, Okay, doesn't use

443
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: the word retirement, but you know, says I'm spending more

444
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: time with my family whatever. Everybody assumes it's a retirement announcement.

445
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: Shortly thereafter, reportedly has a deal done with the Dolphins

446
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Speaker 1: for playing and being a part owner in twenty twenty two,

447
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: and then the same day the Brian Flora's lawsuit drops

448
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: against the Dolphins, the league, five other teams, um, and

449
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me. Then if Brady's like, I'm good,

450
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: could you imagine take my talents elsewhere? Can you imagine

451
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: the AFC East with Brady back in it? But for

452
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, especially if they still pull off the Tyreek

453
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: Hill deal with Jalen Waddle, I don't even want to

454
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: think about it. Imagine how pissed off Bills fans would be. Well,

455
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: not only that, think about the Patriots fans, because Pats

456
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Speaker 1: I think if you asked foremost, I think if you

457
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: ask most Patriots fans, the Bills would be last on

458
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: the list in the division of teams that they hate.

459
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: Like if if you gave Patriots fans in order give

460
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: me the teams you hate the most in the division,

461
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: I'd say it's between the Jets and the Dolphins for

462
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Speaker 1: number one. Um, because the Dolphins always beat them once

463
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: every year, even when they had Brady. They have some

464
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: remember the miracle game they had a few years ago,

465
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: UM and beat Brady and the Patriots, And they had

466
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: some other ones. Uh, they beat him late at the

467
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 1: end of one season and had to share the division

468
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: title with the Dolphins. There are there are a whole

469
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: bunch of reasons, so I think the bitterness would have

470
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: been at a a froth of a level if he

471
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Speaker 1: played for the Dolphins. Go back to New England once,

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Speaker 1: you know, next year, Oh my gosh. Like the Tampa

473
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: thing was welcome home Tom, Yeah, coming in as a

474
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: division of Tampa. Nice coming in coming in as a

475
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: division rival for the Dolphins like that, I think it's

476
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: a completely different conversation for Patriots fans and obviously Bills fans,

477
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: would you know, be all up in arm he's back

478
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 1: in our division? What is going on? You can't get him.

479
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: One player who did say that they were maybe a

480
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: little bit sad to see him leeve. I remember Tradavius

481
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: White was asked about it and he was like, yeah,

482
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: you know, Tom's a great player and he did so

483
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: much for the Patriots when he was on the team,

484
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: so hard to beat. But honestly, I kind of wanted

485
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: to beat him, So him being out of the division,

486
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: I don't have the chance to do that unless we

487
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 1: happen to play the Buccaneers. So there's some guys that

488
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: want that type of competition. So the Dolphins were reportedly

489
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: ready to announce the deal on Super Bowl weekend, that

490
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: Brady was going to sign with them and be a

491
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Speaker 1: part owner as well, and then this bomb. They were

492
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Speaker 1: also planning to announce the hiring of Sean Payton as

493
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: their new head coach, Peyton and Brady absolutely then I

494
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: would start to get a little concerned. Yeah, you know

495
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like Brady and Sean Payton, and then

496
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: Tyree Hill on top of that, Holy crap, that would

497
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: have turned this division completely on its ear. People would

498
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: be talking about the a FC East just as much

499
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: as we're talking about the would be talking about the Bills.

500
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: They were talking about Brady, John Peyton and the Dolphins,

501
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: and then if the Tyree Hill thing happened on top

502
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: of it, forget it, they would be the favorite of

503
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Speaker 1: the division. Of one hundred percent. I don't agree with that,

504
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: but one hundred percent. I was reading this and as

505
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: I was going through, like it was one of those things,

506
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: my mouth just kept opening wider and wider, like my

507
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: my jaw just kept hanging further. And what Peyton what like?

508
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. And then I was just like

509
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: Ryan Flores, you're a good man Um, you know, and

510
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make light of his lawsuit, but

511
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: his timing was to think, to think about what could be.

512
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Speaker 1: As I was just saying, if Eli Manning would have

513
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: played for the Chargers, to think about what could have

514
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: happened if that scenario would have played out, nuts absolutely wild. Yeah,

515
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: this season would have been completely off the chain. I mean,

516
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: this free agency has already been off the chain in

517
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: so many different ways. It's like we're the NFL is

518
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,959
Speaker 1: becoming the NBA in so many different ways. We have

519
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: to take a break here, but we do want to

520
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: remind you that the obl fan Friday mail bag is open.

521
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: You can give us a call at eight O three

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Speaker 1: five fifty one, eight five fifty two, five fifty if

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Speaker 1: you have any questions about the Bills, the Draft, the

524
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: league at large, what have you. And we also have

525
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: a little mocked Draft watch to revisit, so we will

526
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Speaker 1: do some of that when we return here on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Put that taste wonderful. Stay for Stefon Diggs. This has

529
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: been a long time coming, a star wide receiver getting

530
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: paid like one the version. Still I'm looking at days

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Speaker 1: going to dig dicks, got it Buffalo touchdown, stiff on

532
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: days shots reaching your course for the touchdown, the gas

533
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: keep down, getting freezetch keep shine with the shin bra

534
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: stiff sticks, taking the shining gags comes the water. Well,

535
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 1: that's how you become the best receiver in the National

536
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: Football League, all right? That is Stefan Diggs highlight reel

537
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:57,479
Speaker 1: for r MSG viewers. And uh, while we're taking your

538
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: phone calls at eight three five fifty open lines there

539
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: for the OBL fan Friday mailbag with any questions you

540
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: might have. We did want to pass along some of

541
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: the comments from Stefan Diggs that did not make it

542
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: on air for us yesterday because we had to go

543
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: off the air as he only addressed the media at

544
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: about two forty three in the afternoon yesterday and we

545
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: had to be off the air twelve minutes later, so

546
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: we only got to the first ten minutes or so

547
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: of his press conference. So the first comment we wanted

548
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: to toss your way was his description of the reaction

549
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: from his teammates and from people around the league after

550
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: he agreed to terms on the contract extension. You get

551
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: a lot of text messages do now. I got a

552
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: text message from guys across the league as far as

553
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: being in a sc and playing with the Bills, and

554
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: I was like, when it's crazy Because when I first

555
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: got traded to Buffalo, besides the mafia and the people

556
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: who are fans of Buffalo, not so many people thought

557
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: it was gonna work out. A lot of people were

558
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: like this, well the Bill and uh two years from now, Now,

559
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: now I can I can smile and say, you know,

560
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: God works some mysterious ways, and I'm I'm with my fami,

561
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 1: down with the right people, and I got I got

562
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: the right support system. I mean, it's I think that's

563
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: pretty obvious to Bills fans. But two years ago, people

564
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: that didn't know what was going on here or what

565
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: John McDermott was trying to build in that locker room

566
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: were like, good luck going up there, buddy, you know yeah,

567
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: And I mean people also thought the diva label was

568
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: getting slapped on Stefan Diggs and it was like, oh,

569
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: is he gonna work in Buffalo's locker room? And that

570
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: was quickly proven like this, this guy is not a

571
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: diva's he's not anything close to a diva in the

572
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: locker room. He's actually one of the team captains. So

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00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: I do think it's interesting to think about how many

574
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: people thought it wouldn't worked out, wouldn't have worked out,

575
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: and now it has, and he can kind of laugh

576
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: at them a little bit. I remember shortly after the

577
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: trade was made, Brandon Bean was asked that very question,

578
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: are you concerned about the diva label that some people

579
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Speaker 1: give Stefon Diggs? And he said, we did our homework

580
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: on it, and what we learned was his desire to

581
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: move on from Minnesota was rooted in his desire to

582
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: have a greater impact on helping the team win. It

583
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily a me thing. It was I know I

584
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: can make us a better team if I am more

585
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: involved within the scope of the offense. And Minnesota admittedly

586
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: was moving more towards being a run first team with

587
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Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, who is a fantastic talent. I mean, don't

588
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: get me wrong, but I think he felt my talents

589
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: aren't being maximized here to help this team enough, and

590
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: maybe I need to look somewhere else. And my god,

591
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: he couldn't land it in a better place right. And

592
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: he also is even the type a person here to

593
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: be like, I want the ball more. There's so many

594
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: great receivers on this team. We all want to catch

595
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: the ball. We all want the ball more because we

596
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: think that we can help the team win. But in

597
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: the same breath, he's also like, I love watching these

598
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: guys help the team win. I love watching players like

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00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: Gabe Davis or you know, Isaiah McKenzie, you name it,

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00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox being able to catch passes or taking some

601
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: of that, taking some of the defenders to be on me,

602
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: so there's an open guy in the field. So it's

603
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: just I think it's so awesome how well it has

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00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: worked out. I am such a fan. Of course, we

605
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: get to cover this team, but to get to know

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00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 1: him a little bit, to get to see him next

607
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: to Josh Allen and their friendship. I'm so obsessed with it.

608
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: And to think about one of the best players in

609
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: the NFL wanting to retire in Buffalo based on how

610
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: far Buffalo has come over the last several years is wild.

611
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: Digs obviously, with that trade, did not have the final

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00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 1: decision in where he was going to play after he

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00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: left Minnesota. That was the Bills decision and Minnesota's to

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00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: a lesser extent, and it worked out as we said

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00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: for him, And I don't know if it could have

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00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: worked out any better anywhere else but here. Stefan explains

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00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: how he came to see Buffalo as the ideal destination

618
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: for him. I was really focused on just like football.

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Speaker 1: I came here one track mine, I came here to

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Speaker 1: work hard earner. I came here to earn my keep,

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Speaker 1: and they gave up a lot for me. So I

622
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: wanted to not necessarily just prove everybody else right, but

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Speaker 1: prove myself right as well. I believed in myself. I

624
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: believed that I could do it. I believe I could

625
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: be wide receiver one. So it wasn't necessarily a gamble

626
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: because I knew what I could do. But for them,

627
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: I was just more thankful that day. You know, they

628
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: took a chance, you know, they took a real chance,

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't business. When I got it was like family.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't feel no pressure like when you talk

631
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: about pressure. I didn't feel any pressure to be anybody

632
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: but myself. And that's why I feel like I'm such

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00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: in a great place, because you know, being yourself is

634
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: brings you comfort, It brings you happiness, and I don't

635
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: have to wake up and say that I'm anybody else.

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00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: I could just be myself, and you know, they love

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00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: me up. They love me up. Well, it's easy to

638
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: love when you have one hundred and twenty seven catches

639
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: the fifteen hundred yards and then you have ten touchdowns

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00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,479
Speaker 1: the next year after another hundred catch season. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I still remember when I came on this show when

642
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: Murph and Steve were doing it to kind of lend

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00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: some background on Stefan Diggs when the trade was made,

644
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Speaker 1: and I said, then, I said, look, he hasn't been

645
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: a high profile guy because he's playing in Minnesota, and

646
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: obviously Bills fans didn't see a lot of them because

647
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: they don't play the Vikings every year, being in the

648
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: other conference. I said, the Bills are getting an elite receiver.

649
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: This guy is like one of the best five route

650
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: runners in the league. He is an elite receiver. So

651
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: if Josh comes along, they're going to really have something here.

652
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: And that proved to be true. So yeah, I mean,

653
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: it was a fortuitous move by Brandon Bean who had

654
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: tried previously to pry him out of Minnesota the previous year,

655
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: and they couldn't pull it off. The timing wasn't right,

656
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: what have you. I think Minnesota's picking the first round

657
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: that year when they did pull off the trade, gave

658
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Speaker 1: them good confidence in what was a good receiver draft

659
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: that they'd be able to replenish their roster appropriately. In

660
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: my gut, justin Jefferson. So it worked out for both

661
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: teams when you think about it, it really did. And

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00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: how often does that happen where it works out for

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Speaker 1: both teams. I mean, usually rarely it works out for

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Speaker 1: both teams. But I think it was super important also

665
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: for Steffan to have a great season this past year.

666
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Speaker 1: I mean, you have that first season with the Bills

667
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Speaker 1: where you lead the NFL in receptions in receiving yards,

668
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: which was the first time a receiver has done that

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Speaker 1: on the Buffalo Bills, and then it's like, all right,

670
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do in year two? Can you

671
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: imatch that? A lot of people think it's going to

672
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: be really hard And maybe he didn't get those exact

673
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: numbers or was the leader of receptions or receiving yards,

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Speaker 1: but he went over one hundred catches and over one

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00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: hundred one thousand receiving yards. That's that's another great second

676
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: season to have on a team when defenses know you're

677
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: the guy that they have to scheme for and they're

678
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: going to try and limit you every different way that

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00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: they can. And he led the team with ten touchdowns

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00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: last year, so and tie a team record or no,

681
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: the records eleven in a season Billy Brooks, but was

682
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: right there challenging the single season touchdown record for the

683
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Speaker 1: Bills as well. The most interesting answer that I wanted

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Speaker 1: to hear was when Stefan Diggs was asked about a

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Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator, Ken Dorsey, his thoughts on Dorsey's promotion

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Speaker 1: and his relationship with the new OC which did exist previously.

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Speaker 1: So here's Stefan on that subject. We've talked a couple

688
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: of times, especially you know, because his offseason, everybody had

689
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Speaker 1: it downtime with a lot of day A lot of

690
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: those guys spend their times here is their downtime. But

691
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Speaker 1: we've we've spoken a couple of times, and it's you know,

692
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Speaker 1: that's when I say that family thing. It's not the

693
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Speaker 1: same because in other places, you see you might not

694
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Speaker 1: have necessarily a relationship with your quarterback coach because he's

695
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: not your specific coach but here, you know, I talk

696
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Speaker 1: to Dorsey every morning. We crack a joker every morning.

697
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: That was before he became the oc so um and

698
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Speaker 1: I had that relationship throughout the season of you know,

699
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Speaker 1: him kind of being that middleman between me and Josh

700
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: as well, like as far as like with certain things

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Speaker 1: that I like and I can tell Josh. But you know,

702
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: it kind of got to circle around that in that

703
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: coaching in that coaching room as well. So I kind

704
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Speaker 1: of somewhat built a relationship with doors Stare and it

705
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Speaker 1: kind of just with some rollover with him becoming an ose,

706
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Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, oh, you know, I didn't even I

707
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: didn't break a sweat at all. I got one hundred

708
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Speaker 1: same confidence in doors and we kind of like when

709
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Speaker 1: I was like having a conversations with him in the

710
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: season as far as like with plays and routes that

711
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: I like, and he was like this, well we could

712
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 1: do it this way, we could do it that way.

713
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: And just having that creative offensive mind, it got it

714
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Speaker 1: got me got me excited. Number one thing Maddie that

715
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: Bill's players on offense liked about Brian Dable it was

716
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: the fact that he was open minded, would take any

717
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: suggestion that anybody had and give it firm consideration. This

718
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: is similar. It's not exactly the same thing, but it's similar.

719
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Speaker 1: It's an example of here's quarterbacks coach taking input from

720
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Speaker 1: a receiver who says he doesn't feel comfortable running around

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Speaker 1: a certain way or executing a play concept a certain way,

722
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Speaker 1: and he provides an alternative, which is very much the

723
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Speaker 1: same thing that Brian Dable would do. Oh, you've got

724
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: a better idea, let me hear it, and we'll see

725
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Speaker 1: if we can do it this way. And I think

726
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Speaker 1: because it seems like they think along the same wavelength

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Speaker 1: Dable and Dorsey that a lot of the players. As

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00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: you could tell by Stefan, he's not even worried about it. No,

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00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: it seems like every single player that we've asked what

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Speaker 1: they think of Ken Dorsey, everybody says the same thing,

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Speaker 1: like this is going to be a great transition. He's

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Speaker 1: so awesome. We love him as a quarterbacks coach and

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Speaker 1: for a wide receiver, for Steffon Diggs to be like,

734
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Speaker 1: I already have a relationship with him. We talk in

735
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: the hallway every morning. I think that says a lot

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Speaker 1: about Stefan Diggs, but also about Ken Dorsey and that

737
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: he wants to have relationship when he was the quarterbacks

738
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: coach with more than just the quarterbacks. So I think

739
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: it's going to be a very smooth transition within the team.

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Speaker 1: And also the other thing that sticks out to me

741
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: is a communication right there. It is so important for

742
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: a successful team to have communication in every different facet

743
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: and to have an open line of communication going both

744
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: ways between the players and the coaches, because if you

745
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: don't have that, things can get to go a little

746
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: bit south, whether it being in the locker room or

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00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: whether it be with he said, she said, or they

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00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: the coaches think this, the players think that. I think

749
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Speaker 1: the communication between the players and the coaches on this

750
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,479
Speaker 1: team since Sean mcder writ and Brandon Beina have gotten

751
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: here has just been really, really great. Yeah, And you

752
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: don't see that on even some of the best teams

753
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: where you have received was talking to quarterback coaches because

754
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: that's just not their position coach and sometimes never the

755
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: twain shall meet. But that is not the case here.

756
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: There's a lot of cross talk and a lot of

757
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: cross communication and obviously it benefits the product on the field.

758
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Speaker 1: We have to take a break here, but when we

759
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: come back. What streaming service is the NFL taking a

760
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: closer look at to consider collaborating with coming up sooner

761
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: rather than later, Maddie and I'll dive into that next

762
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: Here on One Bill's Live presented by Collid to Health,

763
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. So the NFL, Maddie has had

764
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: discussions with Netflix. They apparently were intrigued by the popularity

765
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: of the Formula one docuseries Drive to Survive, which rocketed

766
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: the fan base of Formula one Racing into the stratosphere.

767
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: And so word is they're not looking for live programming

768
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: like games or anything. They're looking into reality shows or

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Speaker 1: documentaries of some kind. I don't think that HBO loses

770
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks. Yeah, I was gonna say with that, it's

771
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 1: a little bit interesting because I feel like the NFL

772
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: already has something. They have Hard Knocks. And then Amazon

773
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: did the series two, which I'm forgetting the name, Oh,

774
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: oh gosh, what is the name? I'm I'm completely unable

775
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: to help you in this because I can't think of

776
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: it or what you're talking about. But I will say this,

777
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: So they've already got all or nothing. Oh, all or nothing, right, Okay?

778
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: But that those are team yeah, right, team base yeah,

779
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: because the Cardinals did that and I think one other

780
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: team did it, and then they obviously have hard knocks

781
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: on HBO. So I'm curious to see what they might

782
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: come up with for either you know, docuseries or some

783
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: reality show. Reality show scares me a little bit, I'm

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00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: gonna be honest, because I think, to be frank, haven't

785
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 1: reality series kind of run their course here? Like we're

786
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: going on like over twenty years of reality television I

787
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: also happened right around two thousand. Yeah, I don't know.

788
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: I think about how intense in a good way, Like

789
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: there are boundaries and barriers of what you can and

790
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: cannot film, and some coaching staffs are more strict than

791
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: other staffs. Yeah, And there's the whole conversation of we

792
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't want a reality show or anything that really

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00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: shows what they do in their free time because we

794
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: want these guys to just be focusing on football and

795
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: not lose focus of what's the most important thing. I

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00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: can kind of just see a reality show going south

797
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: with everything. I mean, they used to have teams deal

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00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: with already. There used to be versions where you'd see

799
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: the football players on Pimp My Ride and stuff like that.

800
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 1: Not every week, but there would be a healthy number

801
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: of them, and a lot of guys like their rigs

802
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: a lot. Man. We remember MTV's Cribs. There were some

803
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: NFL players on there go back. So I don't know

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00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: if they're thinking along those lines or something completely new.

805
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 1: They could do a fun one around the draft, because

806
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: that's not necessarily peering into one team draft. Maybe the

807
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: draft event, or you could just do a whole off season,

808
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: like what are these players doing the off season? That's

809
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: something that it would work if you want to like

810
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 1: peek into their lives. I think teams wouldn't or coaching

811
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: staffs wouldn't care that much. Not to mention the fact

812
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: that people this time of year are football starved, and

813
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: we'll go searching for anything that's football related. Seriously, make

814
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: the NFL even more year around than it already is.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we gotta take a break here. Coming up

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Speaker 1: next is our good friend Greg co Sale, senior producer

817
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: at NFL Films. We're gonna talk pass rushers in the

818
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two draft class with him coming up next

819
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: here on One Bills Live, presented by a Colt of health.

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00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's radio at a Steve Tasker who has

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00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: been all over the fields. Kind of unique. He was

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Speaker 1: kind of a dual role player for you, Dave, Steve

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Speaker 1: a blimp. We're not even in the strated here of normalcy.

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Speaker 1: All right. Here we are our number two on a Friday,

825
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Eddie glab with you, and that time of

826
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: the week means this person is joining us at least

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Speaker 1: all the way through the pre draft period. Senior producer

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Speaker 1: from NFL Films Greg Cosell, joining us as we are

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Speaker 1: going to talk pass rushers in this draft class and

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Speaker 1: considered by many to be the deepest position in the

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Speaker 1: entire class. Before we jump headfirst into the pool here

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00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 1: with the pass rushers though, Greg just curious. You see

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00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 1: the Stefan Diggs extension, and while that's great in terms

834
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: of locking him up giving him a long term security,

835
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: the fact remains that the Bills really only true outside

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00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: wideouts are Stefan Diggs and Gabriel Davis. They got some

837
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: slot guys here, but there is a perceived need anyway

838
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: from people like us that it's a position they may

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00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: still have to address. I would agree with that, and

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00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: as we discussed a couple of weeks ago, Chris and Maddie.

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00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: I don't think you were there then, but I think

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00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: they're probably going to look for some speed, because even

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00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: though both Diggs and Davis can get vertical on occasion,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't really call either one of those true vertical

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00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: stretch kinds of receivers. And my sense is, given who

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00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: the quarterback is and his ability to drive the ball

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00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: down the field as well as anyone in the league,

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00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 1: that they would like to see some speed on the perimeter.

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00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: And the nice thing about that is that player does

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00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: not have to be a quote unquote big time number one.

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00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: He needs to be more of a niche receiver who

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00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: brings a vertical element, So you don't necessarily need that

853
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: guy in the first round. Now, obviously we don't know

854
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: what they're going to do, but I would think they

855
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: would address that position for sure. Yeah, it'll be intriguing

856
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: to see who they draft at wide receiver, if they

857
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: choose to draft that position on Day one or Day two.

858
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see if any receivers are going

859
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: to fall to maybe twenty five, if anybody's going to

860
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: be sticking out there for the Bills. To grab. But

861
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: edge rusher is the position in this year's NFL draft.

862
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: We've heard this name so many times, talked about he's

863
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: going to go super early. It's Aidan Hutchinson. Would you

864
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: like to break down Aidan Hutchinson? What does he bring

865
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: to the NFL? What are some of his strengths and

866
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: something that you know teams won't be able to live without,

867
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: especially the team's drafting in the top three. Well, he's

868
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: he's a very good prospect. I wouldn't call him special.

869
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: There's no Von Miller's in this draft as far as

870
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: pass rushers. And it's funny, Chris you mentioned that people

871
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: view it as deep. I think it's deep, but I

872
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: don't think it's special. So I would say Hutchinson is

873
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: a strong prospect. He's got excellent body length, although some

874
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: view is arm length which is extremely short for his

875
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: height as a potential issue. But he's very quick off

876
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: the ball. He can rush the quarterback, as they say,

877
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: from tip to tip, meaning he can work the high side,

878
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: the outside and the low side inside. He has a

879
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: really good inside counter move. He works hands hips feet

880
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: really well. He's extremely well coordinated in that way, has

881
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: good play strength and What really stood out, and this

882
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: is why I really enjoy watching full games, is he

883
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: had a plan, a pass rush plan for everybody he faced.

884
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: And I think that's something you rarely see in college

885
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: football with pass rushers who tend to rely on their

886
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: physical ability and their traits. But he had a plan

887
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: for attacking who he played against, and that's a really

888
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: positive sign. The thing for me about him, Greg is

889
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: there are no wasted opportunities with him. I don't know

890
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: if there's a guy that finishes better than him in

891
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: the class. If there's an opportunity, he's usually cashing in

892
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: on it. You could probably count on one hand the

893
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: opportunities he's had in the offensive backfield that he did

894
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: not make good on. That's a great point. He didn't

895
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: miss much at all, if anything. And I saw a

896
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: lot of tape and a lot of games, and I

897
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 1: think he's a guy that could fit into multiple front

898
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: looks because he obviously can play on the outside, he

899
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 1: can play standing up, he can play with his hand

900
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: in the ground. He had numerous snaps inside at three

901
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: technique and sub fronts, so you can do a lot

902
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: with Hutchinson. And while you wouldn't call him special, in

903
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: terms of his traits, because he's not a sudden or

904
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: twitchy athlete. He's just a very very good player and

905
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: the kind of guy to me that I'll be a

906
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: really good player for a lot of years in the league.

907
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: And while I think he's probably your highest floor player

908
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: NFL ready player, the guy that may have the highest

909
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: ceiling is a guy who does not have short arms.

910
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker thirty five and a half inch arms. Yeah, Greg, Yeah,

911
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Walker is an interesting guy, Chris, because

912
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: he didn't really play as an edge rusher at Georgia.

913
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: I mean, he obviously lined up as a wide nine

914
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: player at times, but that's not what he really did.

915
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: He played both on the outside. He played more snaps

916
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: on the inside. So he's a guy that if you

917
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: draft him early and say he's my edge passer, sure,

918
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: that's a bit of a projection. Now, I really like

919
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 1: the players. His measurables were outstanding. You mentioned the arm length.

920
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: He really had a very fast forty yard dash for

921
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: a six five, two hundred and seventy two pound player.

922
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: But I think he's a guy that his game is

923
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: more physical than speed and burst. He's got really heavy hands,

924
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: he's physical, I mean strong. Now, he does have very

925
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: good short area quickness. That's something that really stood out

926
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: on tape. And there's a powerful feel to his game.

927
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: But I think he's just scratching the surface of what

928
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: he may or may not become as a as a

929
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: pass rusher. And you know, when I watched his tape,

930
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 1: I thought of a player that came out of Kentucky

931
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: and number of years ago actually as a fourth round

932
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: pick and has turned into a good pro, but it

933
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 1: didn't happen right away, and that's a Darius Smith. They're

934
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: about the same size. And as I said, you do

935
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: have to make a projection with Walker if you draft

936
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: him and say he's an a pass rusher, because that's

937
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: not really what he did a lot of, even though

938
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: he showed he could do it. Another interesting player who's

939
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: an organ product is Cavon Thibodeaux. He's been talked about

940
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 1: a lot, maybe for some of the quotes he's had

941
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: and in different certain situations and scenarios, but he shows

942
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: up on tape. What is different about Cavon Thibodeau when

943
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: you're talking about these different edge rushers. Yeah, he's He's

944
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: another guy that I'll be fascinated to see how his

945
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: career goes because he has excellent get off. He's twitchy

946
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,439
Speaker 1: when he gets off his snap and explosive in that way.

947
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: He's more of a speed to power rusher. There's a

948
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: physicality to his game. The issue for him is his

949
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: lower body stiffness. What he really struggles to do is

950
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: to flatten his rush path when he clears as they

951
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: call it the arc. When he gets beyond the offensive

952
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: tackle on the outside, they call that the arc. When

953
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: he clears the at arc, he really struggles to flatten

954
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: his rush path because he's got lower body stiffness. The

955
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 1: player he kind of reminds me of and he's twenty

956
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: pounds less, is Jadeveon Clowney, because Clowney is probably going

957
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: to be with his fifth team at the age of

958
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: twenty eight, and as you guys know, if you're a

959
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: premier edge pass rusher, you're not with five teams by

960
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: the age of twenty eight. Because Clowney is not a

961
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: premier edge pass rusher and really never has been. And

962
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: Thibodeaux kind of reminds me of him, just because of

963
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: the lower body stiffness and inflexibility, and he can't really

964
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: work off the edge at a high level. A guy

965
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: that was a former teammate of Treyvon Walker decided to

966
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: transfer to get more playing time, and boy did he

967
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 1: make the most of it at Florida State. Jermaine Johnson,

968
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: who is kind of a long bodied guy. His arms

969
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: aren't quite as long, but I'd take thirty four inches

970
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: if I was an NFL team with this guy. Jermaine Johnson. Yeah,

971
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: I liked to take quite a bit. You're right he

972
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: left Georgia because Georgia has you know, everybody on their

973
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: defense is a five star recruit out of high school,

974
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 1: and you just can't play every snap. So I think

975
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: he really is a guy that is just scratching the

976
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: surface of what he can be as a as a

977
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: true edge player, he plays much stronger than its frame.

978
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 1: He's got kind of a lean, wiry frame, but there's

979
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: a power element to his game both as a run

980
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: defender and a pass rusher. And he's got natural quickness

981
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: to him. I wouldn't say as a natural bender off

982
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: the edge, but he can bend, and I think there's

983
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: much to unlock as a pass rusher when it comes

984
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: to technique counters, and I think that. I guess the

985
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: way I think about him, it wouldn't surprise me, guys

986
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: if in two three years we're talking about him as

987
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: arguably the best edge pass rusher, maybe not the best

988
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: player overall, although I think Ian Hutchinson they could be

989
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: right there together. But I think Johnson really has a

990
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 1: lot to offer. I think a lot of Bills fans

991
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: would be shocked if the Bills drafted an edge rusher

992
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 1: with the number twenty five pick in the NFL Draft.

993
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: But there have been a couple that have been mocked

994
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: to the Buffalo Bills out of the mock drafts that

995
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: we have tracked, and one of those players is George

996
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: Carlaftis out of Perdue. He's actually been mocked to the

997
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills once at that number twenty five spots. So

998
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: what makes George Carlaftus an interesting candidate? Maybe not for

999
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: the Bills, but for whoever decides to draft him. He's

1000
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 1: six y four and two hundred and sixty six pounds. Yeah,

1001
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: he's one of those kind of old school based dns

1002
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: that you get from the Big Ten. You know, in

1003
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: some ways, like Epanessa, Karloftis was a state high school

1004
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: shock put champion, and that shows up in the way

1005
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: in which he plays. He's incredibly strong in his upper body, strong,

1006
00:57:55,480 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: powerful hands, tremendous upper body strength, and he's and he

1007
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: has a nuanced feel to how to attack offensive tackles.

1008
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: Another guy with a plan. The issue with karloftis is

1009
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: his lower body does not necessarily support what he can

1010
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: do with his upper body and his hands. He's not

1011
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: very flexible in his lower body. So what you see

1012
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: a lot with him is he'll do really well in

1013
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: the initial part of a pass rush, where his hands

1014
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: and his strength really are a factor, and then he

1015
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: gets stuck. And one of the things that stood out

1016
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: was too often he stopped his feet because he couldn't

1017
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: really support with his legs what his upper body was doing.

1018
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: So but he's a guy that as far as the bills,

1019
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: if he was a bill, people would love him because

1020
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: the competitiveness, the effort, the playing personality as I call it,

1021
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: that just jumps off the charts. You just love watching

1022
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: this guy play. Yeah, maybe a little bit like an

1023
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: Aaron Schobel type in a bit of a way. I

1024
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: could see that I remember him. Yeah, absolutely, another guy

1025
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: who I think is scratching the service a little bit

1026
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: because he's still young in football, but a high motor

1027
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: player and a former soccer player. So I'm instantly a

1028
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: fan here. Arnold Ebbacadie. Yeah, in State, and the thing

1029
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: about him was this guy. I just like the way

1030
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: he dips and rips around the edge. That might be

1031
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: the only movie he has right now, but it's pretty

1032
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: it's a pretty darn good one. Yes, you're right. It's

1033
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: funny you say that because he pretty much just attacks

1034
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: the high side right now because he's he's still learning.

1035
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: He only played one year at Penn State after transferring

1036
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: from Temple, had a great year in the Big Ten.

1037
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: But he's got just what you said, Chris. He has flexibility,

1038
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: he has bend, he can clear the arc unlike Thibodeau.

1039
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: He can flatten and close with burst and speed to

1040
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: the quarterback. But you're right, he needs a lot of work.

1041
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: He must develop a wider array of pass rush moves, encounters.

1042
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: He has to learn to work the low of offensive tackles.

1043
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: But there's there's a lot there Athletically. He would strike

1044
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: me as a guy that coaches would like in their

1045
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: room because you can work with this kid when you

1046
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: have that kind of quickness, that kind of bending flexibility.

1047
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: That's where you start, and it's a good place to start.

1048
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: Another Michigan product is David Ojabo, and you speak as

1049
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: soccer players. He played soccer and basketball and actually is

1050
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: from Scotland, so has quite the backstory to him. What

1051
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: jumps off the tape when you turn his tape on,

1052
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: and it's a shame with what happened to him because

1053
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: he's It's funny that when you put on Michigan tape

1054
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: and obviously you're seeing Hutchinson and Ojabo. Ojabo is just

1055
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: a more explosive guy off the ball than Hutchinson. Jabo

1056
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: is another guy that can flatten the rush path. He

1057
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: is an explosive, sudden mover and you hope he can

1058
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: remain that way after the Achilles injury. But he plays fast.

1059
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: He's a high velocity player. He has great balance and

1060
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: body control. He can drive through what we call half

1061
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: man resistance by offensive tackles, which is different than just

1062
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: pure speed to power, but he can because he can

1063
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: challenge the edge so fast. He gets to the half

1064
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: man of offensive tackles and he can just drive right

1065
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: through that. And he's another guy that's young uh playing

1066
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: the position, so there's much more to be unleashed. And

1067
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: as I said, I hope that can happen because he

1068
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: was kind of a fun watch. Yeah, the Achilles injury

1069
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: that you know, you know Chris who he kind of

1070
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: reminded me of. He kind of reminded me of Robert

1071
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: Quinn coming out of North Carl, Okay about ten years ago. Yeah,

1072
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: probably about ten years ago, I guess it was at

1073
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, Um, but that's who he reminded me of. Yeah,

1074
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: if I'm an NFL team, I'd be pretty happy with that.

1075
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: Another um pass rusher that I've seen mock to the

1076
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: Bills a couple of times is the kid out of Minnesota,

1077
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: boy A mafe. Uh. The thing about him for me

1078
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: is I'm trying to decide greg because I've only watched

1079
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: a couple of his games, so it's probably not enough.

1080
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: But he seems like he's a bit stiff hipped, but

1081
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: at the same time, he seems explosive off the snap,

1082
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: So I'm having trouble on where I want to come

1083
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: down on him. And that's a great point because he

1084
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: is an explosive athlete and he certainly has that sort

1085
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: of size length that let us say some profile that

1086
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: you like, and the combined measurable showed his explosive traits,

1087
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: but he's still learning how to rush the quarterback. He

1088
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: can challenge the high side immediately, and every once in

1089
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: a while you'd see a flash. You almost have to

1090
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: look at the flashes and hope that he can develop

1091
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: more consistency in executing those flashes because he can be tantalizing.

1092
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: But there's too many frustrating pass rusher reps at this

1093
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: point where he got stopped just before where the arc

1094
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: and he didn't have any answers, and he needs to

1095
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: develop some answers. But you're right, I wouldn't say he's stiff,

1096
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: but he's just not as loose as you'd like. But

1097
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: he plays the run really, really well. And then the

1098
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: final player we're gonna look at is Drake Jackson out

1099
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: of USC. He had five sacks in the twenty twenty

1100
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: one season. So why would teams maybe be interested in

1101
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: Drake Jackson Because he's close to sixty three two fifty four.

1102
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: His arm length is pretty good as well. He sort

1103
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: of fits that profile Mattie of the long, athletic, flexible

1104
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: age rusher. Those guys are always in demand. Another guy

1105
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,439
Speaker 1: that showed flashes some of his really good plays. You go, wow,

1106
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: look at the quickness, look at the burst, look at

1107
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: the flexibility. There were times he reminded me of Leonard

1108
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: Floyd when Floyd came out of Georgia. There's that size,

1109
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: there's that length. I think Floyd is a little taller,

1110
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: but Jackson looks tall on tape, even though he's just

1111
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: under sixty three. But I think he's another guy that's

1112
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: a little raw and unrefined in how he goes about

1113
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: rushing the quarterback. M So he has a chance to

1114
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: develop into a quality edge rusher. He'll need coaching, he'll

1115
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 1: need refinement, And I think guys like that they usually could.

1116
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: They get drafted on day two. Absolutely, but it wouldn't

1117
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: surprise me if he's an early Day three guy. But

1118
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: because he can rush the quarterback, he could well be

1119
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: a day two pick. I'm here's another guy who was

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01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: a little mixed on Greg because I watched some of

1121
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: his junior tape and he just looked too light in

1122
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: the pants to hold in there on line of scrimmage battles.

1123
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: I haven't really watched much Jackson. Yeah, and I haven't

1124
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: really watched much of his tape from twenty one, so

1125
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: has he gotten stronger? Is he holding in at the

1126
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage better, you know, setting the edge, those

1127
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: kinds of things. He just looks a little thin in

1128
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: the pants like I would agree it because I made

1129
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: the point that overall he must get stronger throughout his body,

1130
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: and you hope that comes with maturity in an NFL

1131
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: weight room, although I assume USC has a pretty good facility,

1132
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: but you're right about that, Chris. He needs to get

1133
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: stronger overall. And when when offensive lineman got his hands

1134
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: on him early in the down, he struggled to get

1135
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: off that, So that's something that definitely needs to happen

1136
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: if you're going to see him down the road as

1137
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: a full time player. And then finally, Greg, I know

1138
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: you mentioned you think Jermaine Johnson could be one of

1139
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: the best pure pass rushers in this class a few

1140
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: years down the road. But do you have a favorite?

1141
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: Is there a true favorite of yours from this group

1142
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: that you know opened your eyes the most? Well. I

1143
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: think the more I watched two guys, the more I

1144
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: liked that it would be Hutchinson and and Jermaine Johnson.

1145
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: I think those guys are going to be good players. Um,

1146
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, I think when it comes to pass rushers,

1147
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: as I said, I don't think there's that special guy.

1148
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: You know. I can't remember why I was talking to

1149
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: about this, but somebody said to me that in an

1150
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: ideal world, if this was a great draft class where

1151
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: he had quarterbacks and the whole deal, that someone like

1152
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: Hutchinson would probably be seen as about the fifteenth pick

1153
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,439
Speaker 1: in the draft. But it's not that kind of draft.

1154
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: And you know, when it's your turn you got a draft,

1155
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: you're not going to say I'll pass. So you know

1156
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: guys are going to get drafted, and Hutchinson is probably not.

1157
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: Probably he's the most complete as we speak right now,

1158
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: and I think Johnson has a chance to be even

1159
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: more dynamic as a pass rusher than Hutchinson. So we'll

1160
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: see as we go down the road. All right, Greg,

1161
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: we'll listen. Well, thank you for the insight and all

1162
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: of the tape grinding, because I don't know if I

1163
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: could do that without falling asleep in my chair sometimes.

1164
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: I got you about any secrets here, Chris, I gotta

1165
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: ask you, do your eyes ever? Do your eyes ever

1166
01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: glaze over to the point you're like, I gotta step

1167
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: at for a little bit. I gotta go get lunch. Yeah.

1168
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes I normally don't step away. I just you know,

1169
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: do you know stupid stuff like a look at social media?

1170
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: You know, but I don't. I don't. Usually I'll just

1171
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: get up and walk around. But but no, sometimes I

1172
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: just have to take a break, particularly when I'm watching

1173
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: full games, because you know, you got to get a

1174
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: feel for the game in addition to the player. Yeah.

1175
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 1: I have to believe your optometrist has to get some

1176
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: kind of kickback for all of But thanks as always, Greg,

1177
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: We appreciate the time. We'll catch up with you. Thanks Greg.

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01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: All right, thanks guys. All right, that's great. Co Sale,

1179
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: senior producer from NFL Films breaking down the pass rushers. Um.

1180
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: I feel terrible for Ojabo, I know, and that footage

1181
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: on social media was awful, Like, yes, he's in the

1182
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: middle of the thing. He clearly has a major injury

1183
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: and people are just walking around him like he's like

1184
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: he's cattle, Like take care of the guys. See what's

1185
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 1: going on? Like I don't know, maybe I'm sure the

1186
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: Michigan Athletic train. If they saw it when it happened,

1187
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: they would have been right there. They must have been

1188
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: at the other end of the field or something. I mean,

1189
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: they got ten twelve players, you know, going through the

1190
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 1: pro day there at Michigan. So, but god, I just

1191
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 1: felt terrible, like he's there writhing in pain on the ground,

1192
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: and the awful thing about the Achilles injury, Like as

1193
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: Steve has said many times on our show, an Achilles injury,

1194
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: even as little as ten twelve years ago, it was

1195
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 1: a death sentence, yea for a professional football player, especially

1196
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: if you're playing an explosive position like pass rusher. So,

1197
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure the technology, you know, when the

1198
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,759
Speaker 1: surgical techniques are better now than they were even fifteen

1199
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: years ago, but acls are not as big a concern

1200
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 1: as achilles. And that's why it's going to be very

1201
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: interesting to see who takes a chance on a Jabo

1202
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:58,440
Speaker 1: who I think if he's healthy, he's unquestionably a borderline

1203
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: first round pick, But because of the Achilles, he's definitely

1204
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,759
Speaker 1: second round and may even slip to the third based

1205
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: on what prognoses are, if there are any out there.

1206
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: You know, all these teams are going to be checking

1207
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: on the medical homework because they're all going a lot

1208
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: of these players they go back to Indie for medical

1209
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 1: rechecks right before the draft, and he would obviously be

1210
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 1: a prime candidate for that, so they're gonna be mining

1211
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 1: for all the information they can get on what his

1212
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: prognosis looks like. I think you just hate to see

1213
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: that because so many players now not so many. A

1214
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 1: handful of players now are starting to think about their

1215
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: NFL careers as early as and talking about their NFL

1216
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: careers if they want to play in the bowl game

1217
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: that their team has made it to their junior senior season,

1218
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: if they're going to go into the NFL draft. A

1219
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: lot of these guys now are saying I'm not going

1220
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: to play. I'm just gonna start training because I don't

1221
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,839
Speaker 1: want to get injured in that bowl game, which totally

1222
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: makes sense, but the odds of you getting injured are

1223
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: probably pretty slim, depend on the position that you play in.

1224
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: But then to see somebody go through their pro day,

1225
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: which is like the last step. Who's gonna get injured

1226
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 1: in a Pro day too, especially an injury of that severity.

1227
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: You're you're going through a couple of drills that you

1228
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: think are safe, and you have practiced these drills time

1229
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: and time and again on that field. Wherever you are

1230
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 1: training for the NFL Draft, for the pro day, for

1231
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: the combine, you go through mock pro days, mock combines

1232
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: like over and over again with your trainers, and for

1233
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: that to happen, it just it sucks. Yeah, And I

1234
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,560
Speaker 1: think what makes it even worse for a JABO is

1235
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: here is a guy that was looking to leave school early.

1236
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: I believe he's a redshirt sophomore. He's three years removed

1237
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: from his high school graduation, so he's obviously good for

1238
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 1: the draft, only a one year starter. But it's a

1239
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: guy that wanted to get his career started sooner rather

1240
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 1: than later. And now you know the pause button is

1241
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: effectively on his rookie year. He's probably going to have

1242
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: a red shirt rookie year in the NFL because more

1243
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: often than not, it is a one year recovery from

1244
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: an achilles injury. I don't know if the technology is

1245
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 1: so good now that you can come back sooner than that,

1246
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: but man, you just to get all the way, like

1247
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 1: the finish line is in sight. The finish line is

1248
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: in sight. You don't have just a hamstring tweak. You

1249
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 1: have a one year rehab ahead of you. I mean

1250
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 1: that is just because the thing with the Achilles that

1251
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: some people may not know is when they reattach it,

1252
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: they don't reattach it end to end. They overlap it

1253
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 1: and sew it back together on an overlap and then

1254
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 1: through physical through physical therapy, you have to use that

1255
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 1: tending to eventually stretch it back to its normal length.

1256
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: And that's why it takes so long, because that's it's

1257
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: such a grueling recovery to get it back to where

1258
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 1: it needs to be. So you're not you know, you're

1259
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 1: not off balance. I guess with one tendon longer than

1260
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 1: the other, and then you're compensating and then you run

1261
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 1: into other problems. That's why they can't put whatever team,

1262
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 1: whichever team drafts him, they they could be very lucky

1263
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: in a year or so. Yeah, is there anybody that

1264
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: you like the most? Like? Do you like some of

1265
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 1: these guys or have you seen enough of any of

1266
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,600
Speaker 1: these guys to have a favorite or I don't know

1267
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: if I have a favorite. I have not paid too

1268
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: much attention to the edge rusher because I don't think

1269
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: that will will go that direction or that route. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, Aidan Hutchinson is a name that we all

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Speaker 1: know that's been fun to watch. I think he's the

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Speaker 1: safest pick yeah, at this position, because he's he's polished,

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Speaker 1: he's very refined, he's got NFL bloodlines. His dad was

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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman for the Vikings forever, and he's he's

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Speaker 1: what they call the highest floor player. You're gonna get

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01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna be able to contribute right away.

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Speaker 1: Now in five years is he going to be at

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Speaker 1: the top of the group again, That remains to be seen.

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Speaker 1: Because you've got some other athletes on this list that

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Speaker 1: are huge projections. But if they hit, I mean, they

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01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,799
Speaker 1: could be all pro type players. Like Trayvon Walker's tools,

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01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: they're ridiculous, like ridiculous thirty five and a half inch arms,

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01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 1: and people are like, why are you guys talking about

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01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: arm length so much? The key with arm length is

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Speaker 1: if your arm is thirty five and a half inches

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Speaker 1: and you're a pass rusher, it often means in many cases,

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Speaker 1: not all, but in many cases you have a chance

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01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 1: to make contact with that offensive tackle before he gets you.

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01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 1: And if you get hands on him first, it's harder

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01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 1: for him to control you and steer you wide of

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01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: the pocket so you can't get to his quarterback. So

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Speaker 1: it's an advantage to have a reach edge because it

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01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 1: can set everything up you do as a pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: So if he can take those physical traits and develop

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Speaker 1: a pass rush repertoire, he could really be something. I

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01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 1: mean that is, I've never seen thirty five and a

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Speaker 1: half inch arms on a pass rusher ever. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to pretend that I paid that close of

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Speaker 1: attention to arm length for pass rushers like fifteen twenty

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Speaker 1: years ago, but I have over the last ten and

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Speaker 1: twelve years. I can't remember a thirty five and a

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Speaker 1: half inch arm pass rusher. I mean, I'm sure there's

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01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 1: one or two, maybe more. I mean, Calais Campbell is

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01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: a huge human being. He's a defensive tackle, but I'll

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01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 1: bet he's got thirty five inch arms. Tremaine Edmunds's arm

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01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: length is thirty four and a half. Yeah, I mean

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01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: it's and he's a freak azor and he is like

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01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 1: a tree. Yeah. I mean he's got vines for they

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01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 1: just go on for days. This guy's got arms that

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01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: are an inch longer than that. It's just it's nuts.

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01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 1: Pretty the athletes they have at Georgia, it's insane. You're

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01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: gonna see. I think there were I want to say

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01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: there were six or seven seniors and then the rest

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01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:57,719
Speaker 1: were junior eligibles on George's defense that are in the draft.

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01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: So I think all told, there are like nine or

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01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 1: two ten players from that Georgia defense in the draft pool.

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Speaker 1: They're all gonna get drafted. I think they're all gonna

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Speaker 1: get drafted because they're all five star high school kids. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's nuts. It's absolutely insane. The people that Kirby Smart

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01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: is pulling in down there at Georgia unbelievable. I mean,

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01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, Nick Saban's doing a heck of

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01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 1: a lot of that too down at Alabama. But Georgia

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01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: won a national title for a reason, and it was

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01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 1: because of that defense, not defense, and they were huge.

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01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 1: You looked at that defensive line, it was like, how

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01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: big are these guys? Yeah, you couldn't even see the

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01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: umpire that stands, you know, the umpire that stands in

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01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 1: the middle of You couldn't if you're the quarterback, you

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01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 1: can't even see that guy. Todd McShay had a two

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01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 1: round NFL draft that came out three days ago. Seven

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01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 1: Georgia players were taken in the first two rounds. It's

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01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 1: going to happen, so just prepare yourself. And it's not

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01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 1: just gonna be on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: That wide receiver George Pickens, I like him a lot.

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01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a second round pick at the latest.

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01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: And then James Cook, the running back, he's gonna probably

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01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 1: be somewhere on Day two. They are loaded. It's gonna

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01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: be a bulldog kind of draft. I'm telling you right now,

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01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 1: all right, we gotta take a break. When we come back,

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01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 1: we may take a closer look at the wrap up

1341
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: conversation on the Mock Draft Watch, and we'll see if

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01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 1: there's anything on the tweet sheet from you from the

1343
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: obil fan Friday mail bag that's coming up next year

1344
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned, all right, Welcome back

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01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: One Bills Live, Chris Brown, Maddie glab with you, and

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01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: we wanted to revisit our conversation since it was so

1347
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: unceremoniously ended by Stefan's express conference yesterday. But our Mock

1348
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: Draft Watch, as we know, Maddie compiles any and all

1349
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 1: mock Draft Bills picks from around the country from every

1350
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: draft nick known to man, and she compiles that list

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01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: to kind of put together a cheat sheet for you

1352
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 1: to survey. And we didn't really get to finish all

1353
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 1: the results in the ins and outs of what the

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01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 1: latest Mock Draft Watch revealed. So take it away, Matt. Yes,

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01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: we did not get to finish we started. So I'm

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01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: going to do a quick overview and then we're going

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01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 1: to look into three prospects that were mocked to the

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01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills at number twenty five in the Mock Draft

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01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 1: Watch five point zero, which is the latest Mock Draft

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01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: Watch to come out. So we tracked twenty two. Cornerback

1361
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 1: was the most popular position. Eleven times a corner was

1362
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 1: mocked to the Bills. Number two was interior offensive lineman

1363
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 1: five times that position was mocked to the Bills, and

1364
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: then wide receiver was third. Three times a wide receiver

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01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: was chosen to go to Buffalo. So the three different

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01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: names that I wanted to look at, one of them

1367
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: was quite popular. We will start with him. Its interior

1368
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: offensive lineman Zion Johnson out of Boston College. So Zion

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01:17:58,240 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 1: has been a name that has been mocked to the

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01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 1: bill since pretty much the beginning of when we started

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01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 1: tracking these in February and January, and now he's continuing

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01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: to be a popular name. So he's a senior, sixty

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01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 1: three three hundred twelve pounds. He was a team captain

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01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 1: All ACC Honors every year. He was a first team

1375
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 1: first team AP All America Honors in twenty twenty one.

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01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 1: He started playing football in high school. I mentioned this yesterday,

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01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: so he picked up the game at a later age.

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01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: He also started his career at Davidson where he played

1379
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 1: in twenty two games, and then he went to Boston

1380
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,600
Speaker 1: College where he played in thirty six games. So this

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01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: guy has a lot of games under his belt. I

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01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,719
Speaker 1: think you'd like to see that as an offensive lineman,

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01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 1: especially as a senior, somebody who has a good resume

1384
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 1: in what they were able to do. He played in

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01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 1: a triple option offense at Davidson for two seasons and

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01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: then transferred to Boston College. So he played guard and

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01:18:55,960 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 1: tackle at Davidson, played a season of left tackle at

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01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: Boston College, and then in his final season, he transitioned

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01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: to what people say is his natural position, which is

1390
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 1: left guard. When you turn on the tape on him.

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01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 1: He is powerful, he tosses people around. He took on

1392
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 1: double teams a lot and did a good job with that.

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01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 1: He can get to his second box with ease, I think,

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01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: and does it with really great timing as well. NFL

1395
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: Network grades him as someone who will eventually become a starter, okay,

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01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 1: and I believe all of that. And he did have

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01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 1: a good Senior Bowl week in Mobile back in January,

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01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 1: which only adds to the resume. Here is my fear.

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01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 1: The New England Patriots picked twenty first, yeah, in round one,

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01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 1: and as we know, they traded Shack Mason and then

1401
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 1: they got a fifth round pick back, so they lost him.

1402
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 1: They also lost guard slash center at Ted Carris in

1403
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 1: free a agency. They need help up front, and my

1404
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 1: fear is if the Bills are considering him at twenty five,

1405
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,839
Speaker 1: that he might be off the board because the Patriots

1406
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 1: desperately need offensive line help, and I think it trumps

1407
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 1: the help they need on the defensive side of the ball.

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01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 1: I could see them addressing linebacker a little bit later.

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01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,560
Speaker 1: And so my fear is we get beat to the

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01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: punch if we're looking at interior old line, because that's

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01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 1: what the value says we're gonna get beat to the

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01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: punch by the Patriots at twenty one. That wouldn't shock me,

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01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 1: So may I will say there is another guy I

1414
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 1: like who would be a really good consolation prize y. Yeah,

1415
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 1: he's been a name as well as people will have

1416
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 1: to look into him next week possibly or the week

1417
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 1: after because he's been a name that's been mocked to

1418
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. That interior offensive line position is supposed

1419
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 1: to have good depth there at the end of the

1420
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 1: first round leading into the second round. A cornerback that

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01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 1: I want to look into who has also been a

1422
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 1: popular name, I gotta say not the most popular of

1423
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: this draft watch that we've tracked. The name for corners

1424
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: at least in this one was Andrew Booth Junior, who

1425
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 1: we have talked about before. So today we're going to

1426
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: talk about Kyler Jordan or Gordon out of Washington. So

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01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 1: he was teammates with Trent mcduffeye. We love Trent mcduffey,

1428
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: but we're not sure if Trent mcduffey is going to

1429
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 1: be available at number twenty five, but Kyler Gordon could

1430
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 1: be a good option for the Bills at that spot

1431
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 1: if he's available. He's a redshirt junior. He's five eleven,

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01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety four pounds. He was a twenty

1433
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,759
Speaker 1: twenty one All Pac twelve first team member. He played

1434
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: in thirty three games in his four years, started in

1435
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 1: twelve games last season. So if you look at his

1436
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 1: career stats, ninety eight total tackles, two interceptions, only fourteen

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01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 1: passes defense. When you turn on the tape, I think

1438
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 1: his good hands show out show when he grabs an interception.

1439
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 1: He's got good vision to time and break up those

1440
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: deep balls. You'll see a lot of times, at least

1441
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 1: when I was watching his tape, a deep ball would

1442
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: be thrown his way and he timed it perfectly to

1443
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: knock it out of the receiver's hands or knock it

1444
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 1: down before it got to the receiver. He looks like

1445
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 1: he can bait and jump routes, which is what you

1446
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 1: want out of a corner. He plays with a lot

1447
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 1: of athleticism and has some explosion to him as well.

1448
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: I think he has the tools to become something special

1449
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 1: at that next level in the NFL. He ran a

1450
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,719
Speaker 1: four or five two forty at the combine. An NFL

1451
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 1: network says he can be a good press and off

1452
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 1: coverage corner, and they say that he's somebody who will

1453
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 1: eventually become a starter. Yeah. The thing about Gordon that's interesting.

1454
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 1: Did a lot of martial arts as a kid, so

1455
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 1: I think that helped him develop the athleticism that you

1456
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 1: see now. And there are times where I would watch

1457
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: him and I'm like, man, this is like a safety

1458
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 1: playing corner because he's so tall, Because what is he?

1459
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: I think he's like five five eleven and a half

1460
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: for him, he just looks bigger than that to me

1461
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: on tape. I don't know why I thought he did too.

1462
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 1: I was surprised by that he can jump out of

1463
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 1: the gym, I mean thirty nine and a half inch

1464
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 1: vertical at his pro day. Hello. The thing about him

1465
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 1: is I think he relied a lot on his natural

1466
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 1: athleticism and didn't polish up his techniques. So here's a

1467
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: perfect contrast. Tredavious White wasn't going to blow up the

1468
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: stop Watch anything below like a four or four or five,

1469
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 1: but his technique was sound like sat. He came in

1470
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:36,719
Speaker 1: as a rookie with very sharp and polished cornerback techniques,

1471
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 1: which gave him opportunities to make plays on the ball, interceptions, etc. Instincts,

1472
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 1: those kinds of things. I think Kyler Gordon has always

1473
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 1: been the best athlete in the room and because of that,

1474
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 1: he feels like he can safely rely on that, and

1475
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 1: in college he could he was. That was fine, But

1476
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 1: the knock on him is that he still needs to

1477
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 1: develop his instinct He still needs to develop his techniques

1478
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 1: on the jam, you know, bail technique, turning and running,

1479
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 1: hip flip, all of that stuff, because at the NFL level,

1480
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: it's a different animal. It's the best of the best.

1481
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: And you watch how Stefan runs routes. If you're gonna

1482
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 1: go with natural athleticism, he's gonna make you look silly.

1483
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 1: So he's a guy who's got to polish that stuff up.

1484
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 1: So with good coaching, I agree with you, true, it

1485
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 1: could become all those things. Little time on the job though,

1486
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: to kind of sharpen up the techniques where he's not

1487
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: relying on just his athletic ability. Yeah, that's definitely when

1488
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: you read about him, there's a lot of people saying

1489
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 1: that he needs to refine a lot of the things

1490
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 1: and become a better technician at the game, which means

1491
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 1: that he has a high ceiling and potential. So what

1492
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 1: type of team wants to take that on and see

1493
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 1: if they can turn him into somebody like a tredavious Whiter,

1494
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:51,640
Speaker 1: like someone who can be a star corner in the

1495
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 1: NFL our final player that we're going to look at

1496
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 1: is an intriguing position that we talked about yesterday at

1497
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 1: that number twenty five spot. It's running back Bruce Hall

1498
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 1: out of Iowa State has been mocked to the Buffalo

1499
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: Bills a couple times, just once in this latest mock

1500
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 1: draft watch that we tracked. He's a junior. He's five eleven,

1501
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventeen pounds, so he's the right weight

1502
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 1: for the type of running backs that you're seeing have

1503
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 1: a lot of success now in the NFL. You're Jonathan

1504
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 1: Taylor type running back. He played in thirty six games

1505
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,799
Speaker 1: in his career. He rushed for almost four thousand yards,

1506
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: fifty touchdowns, fifty rushing touchdowns wild number, averaged five and

1507
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 1: a half yards per attempt, and also averaged over one

1508
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 1: hundred rushing yards a game. Last season, he had twenty

1509
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:48,839
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns, three receiving touchdowns, averaged almost six yards per attempt,

1510
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 1: and over one hundred and twenty rushing yards. A game

1511
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 1: had almost fifteen hundred rushing yards. This is someone who

1512
01:25:56,479 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 1: is smoothed as heck in the backfield. He he has

1513
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:03,600
Speaker 1: hands like a wide receiver. When you turn on the

1514
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 1: tape on him, he's a great pass catcher. He's I think,

1515
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 1: going to be a very special running back at the

1516
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 1: next level. He's shifty and powerful, He's a smooth runner.

1517
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed watching his tape. NFL Network grades him

1518
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 1: as somebody who is eventually going to become a starter.

1519
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: Do the Bills go running back at number twenty five?

1520
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. He'll probably still be available at number

1521
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 1: twenty five, though, because a lot of people are saying

1522
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: running backs won't start till the end of the first round,

1523
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 1: or really second round as well. You'll see some of

1524
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 1: these guys start to go. The nice thing about him

1525
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 1: is he has a lot of volume. He's done a

1526
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: lot of things in his college career, and he's done

1527
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 1: them very well. Yeah, back to back Big twelve Offensive

1528
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 1: Player of the Year and also eight hundred total touches

1529
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 1: in college. Now, some people like that because it's a

1530
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 1: good body of work. We know what he can do.

1531
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 1: Other people are like, oh, is that too much mileage

1532
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 1: on the tiler's on the tires. But I think his

1533
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 1: body mass is perfect, like he's thick all the way through,

1534
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 1: so he could be a three down guy. He can

1535
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 1: hold up and pass protection. And as you mentioned, he

1536
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 1: really developed his receiving game over the last two years.

1537
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 1: Thirty six receptions just last year, including three touchdown catches.

1538
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 1: So along with those fifty career rushing touchdowns, he had

1539
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: six through the air. And he's probably one of the

1540
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 1: first two backs off the board. I don't think there's

1541
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: any questions. Yes, all right, good job on the mock draft.

1542
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 1: Watch Maddie will look for future editions coming our way

1543
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,560
Speaker 1: in the coming weeks. As the countdown is on to

1544
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, break time for us.

1545
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 1: Maddie and I close it up next here on One

1546
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive, One Bill's Drive, One Bill's Live. Stayed all right,

1547
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 1: quick look at the mail bag here as we close

1548
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 1: things up on a Friday from Tuffalo, would would you

1549
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 1: offer Stefan Gilmore a two to three year contract instead

1550
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: of a one year contract? I don't know, like he's

1551
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,600
Speaker 1: thirty two years old. Before the season, right after the

1552
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:18,599
Speaker 1: season starts. I think he can still play. If I'm

1553
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:20,680
Speaker 1: doing that, it's like one of those void years to

1554
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 1: make the cap number more palatable. I don't know if

1555
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm handing him a three year contract at age thirty two,

1556
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. That's what exactly what I was gonna say.

1557
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 1: If if you hand him a contract that's longer than

1558
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 1: a year, it would have to be a void year.

1559
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 1: I'd go for a year, though. Yeah, see if you'd

1560
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 1: take a year and then if you have to add

1561
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 1: a void year to make the cap number more palatable

1562
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 1: for this year's cap, we'll then do that. Or the

1563
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: other thing is you can give him an option for

1564
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: a second year, you know, make put an option year

1565
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:46,560
Speaker 1: in there, and then you pick it up or you

1566
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 1: don't pick it up based on how he plays. Be

1567
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 1: very interesting to see what his decision is. I think

1568
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,600
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why we haven't seen more cornerback

1569
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 1: movement on the free agent market. I think a lot

1570
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 1: of people are waiting on him to do something. What

1571
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 1: is Stefan Gilmour's value so my agent can work off

1572
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 1: of that when it's time for my deal. I think

1573
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 1: that's why there's a hold up there right now, he's

1574
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 1: going to be a little bit expensive. Maddie, thank you

1575
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 1: for helping us out while Steve is out. I know

1576
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 1: you'll be helping us out again all next week. I

1577
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 1: got you, all right, so hold down the fort for us.

1578
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 1: We appreciate you helping us out, and hopefully I come

1579
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 1: back with a decent tan. We'll see. Oh I'm so jealous.

1580
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 1: Have a good weekend, everybody. Maddie'll see him Monday.