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Speaker 1: with Me, Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and

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Speaker 1: Coast to Coast, a AM paranormal podcast network. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: my show. Remember each week this is the place you

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Speaker 1: go to when you want to hear the latest when

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Speaker 1: it comes to personal paranormal havoc going upon people's lives.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if it's a ghost, a demon, a troll, bigfoot, Jesus, encomes,

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Speaker 1: angel encounters, near death experiences, and more. There's so much

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Speaker 1: keeps growing. Just when I think I have a good understanding, Nope,

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Speaker 1: we go up a new level. Don't forget. Go to

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Speaker 1: my main website, which is high D Hollis dot com

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Speaker 1: or shadow Folks dot com and write me. Go to

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Speaker 1: the contact page, tell me what it is that you're

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Speaker 1: experiencing out there, anything, And the more detail you give

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Speaker 1: exactly what you're experiencing. I don't know how better else

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Speaker 1: whole concept of what it is that people are experiencing

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Speaker 1: unless we take that step forward. I have a website.

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Speaker 1: It's called Paranormal Pledge dot com. It's to get people

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Speaker 1: to pledge, to start sharing their stories. To tap on

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Speaker 1: the shoulder of somebody at work that you're close to,

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Speaker 1: to the darker topics, they are placing their bets on

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Speaker 1: We can have these open conversations. I am telling you

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Speaker 1: your experiences, your research, your thoughts, comments on anything and

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Speaker 1: everything out of the ordinary. Remember go to my main website,

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Speaker 1: which is Heidi Hollis dot com. Tell me what it

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00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: is that you're experiencing or what it is that you'd

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Speaker 1: like to share here on this program. And you're always

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Speaker 1: welcome to be a guest. Just let me know that,

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00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: all right, I'm getting to the next email. This one

440
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: also says, Hello, Heidi, that's me Um. I would like

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00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: to make contact with you. In regards to what I

442
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: term as shadow creepers. I saw it several months after

443
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: I was witnessed to the use of advanced technology entering

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00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: my bedroom. M This technology presented in three different phases.

445
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: A white beam entering my window at approximately sixty degrees

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00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: and it had four col ms within cylindrical apparatus formed

447
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: from the base of the beam approximately two feet and

448
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: with six ft in length. Thin red, white, and aqua

449
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: beams were in the center, and it was filled with

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00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: dark aqua particles whizzing within M Now was this This

451
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: interesting cylinder was jolting slightly up and down. Appeared to

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Speaker 1: be a gray, puffy cloud shaped formation on top of

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00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: the cylinder. I'm trying to hold this image in my head.

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00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: Hmm okay. A column formed around six ft from the

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00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: end of the cylinder at forty five degrees with an

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00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: orb formation at the tip. A bright white, fluid like

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00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: substance appeared in a tear drop formation and expanded along

458
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: the right side of the orb. As this occurred, I

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00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: observed that the column and orb were made from the

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00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: aqua particles meshed together. M okay, okay, okay. The column

461
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: retracted back and the cylinder into the beam, and the

462
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: beam retracted back out the window within a second. Thirty

463
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: seconds later, a beam re entered. This time the white

464
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: fluid expanded further before exiting. This is really detailed, Okay.

465
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to hold this in my head. This

466
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: is this is really complicated and and very neat. Okay.

467
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: To deter this from reoccurring, I started using a blue

468
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: night light after about a month of having a lamp on. Hey,

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00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: I don't blame you. Light helps to shed light on

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Speaker 1: the subject of anything coming around that you didn't personally invite,

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Speaker 1: So I get it. Um, there's no shame. I keep

472
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Speaker 1: a light of some sort within reach or within view

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00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: so I can spot out something's knocking. I'm like, oh,

474
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Speaker 1: I know, I know what you are. Get out, Okay.

475
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: I was having issues with ceasing breathing while trying to

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Speaker 1: go to sleep. Numerous times it felt as though I

477
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: was about to expire. Okay. This happened for a couple

478
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Speaker 1: of months, and I started lying on my back to

479
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: see if this would help. I would look at the

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00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: ceiling most nights. Several times before sleeping. One night, I

481
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: saw a small spectral colored prism shaped object glide along

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Speaker 1: the ceiling. I watched it for several seconds before turning

483
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Speaker 1: the light on. I was greatly unnerved by this, even

484
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: though it seemed minor in comparison to the other incident.

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00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: About a week later, I saw a thick, shadow like

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Speaker 1: stick figure with four legs, oh and torso walking along

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00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: the ceiling. Oh. I was just thinking, nasty anything that's

488
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: got too many legs. I just don't like. Um. I

489
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: shouldn't say I like animals. Um, but it's like creeping

490
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: along the ceiling. I cannot help but to think of spiders.

491
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: Shadow spiders my worst enemy. I'm sorry, Okay, I'm continuing here.

492
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: All right along the ceiling. It reminded me of a

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Speaker 1: cat with no tail. Okay, I could see it clearly

494
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: due to the blue light illuminating the ceiling. I changed

495
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: rooms and blame you. A couple of months later, I

496
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: was laying on top of the bed, almost asleep, almost

497
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: felt like I was in between, like woken in a

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00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: dream state. When I opened my eyes, I saw a

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00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: light gray Oh, here we go, light gray spider formation

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Speaker 1: with eight semi thick legs. Didn't I say shadow spiders?

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00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: I did see. This is why, this is why I

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00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: like not to read these in advance, because I have

503
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: the heebie jeebis right now. I don't know about you guys,

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00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: but spiders and many legs I just knew. I just knew.

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Speaker 1: Okay um. I stood up in this pseudo dream state,

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00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: raised my open hand at it to attack it. I

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00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: presume white speckled sparks formed all around it. It then

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00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: felt like it went straight for my face and head

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00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: and received a painful headache. Oh man. I then sat up,

510
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: turn the light on, and this headache continued. Oh boy,

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00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: the nightmare continued. Following this, I typed in quote shadow

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Speaker 1: creepers and came across your website shadow folks dot Com.

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00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: To my amazement, I saw reference made to cat and

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00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: shadow spiders, YEP and other sentient beings and knew straight

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00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: away that you were legit. Well, hey, alright, I'm glad

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00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: to hear that I have had other not so pleasant

517
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: encounters since and wish to make contact. I have more

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00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: information to share about other sentience encounters over the years,

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00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: all different experiences. Warm regards, Damien Wow, Damion, Well, I

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00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: want to thank you for such a wonderfully detailed email

521
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: that's so very helpful in these types of situations, because

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00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: this is something that's really really in depth that that

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00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: occurred to you. Now, Damien, I don't know how far

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00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: that you read along In my website, I discussed a

525
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: lot of different elements and the connections between what you

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00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: mentioned here. So this odd apparatus, I mean, I'm sure

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00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: it was puzzling, like, how is this connected to anything? Well,

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00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: I have always from day one connected shadow people and

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00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 1: all the different forms they come in, even to hat

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00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 1: Man from the head and shoulder shadow, to the shadow cats,

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00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: shadow rodents, shadow spiders, shadow cloud, shadow streaks, I mean,

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00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: you name it. I have connected all of them to

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00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 1: the UFO alien phenomenon Um. There's a lot of reasoning

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00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: behind that, and I'll tell you a little bit about

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00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 1: it here. Um. But that apparatus that you described, I

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00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: I haven't exactly heard anything that was exact like that.

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00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: I have heard of people describe different apparatuses that have

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00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: entered their homes, and it's not quite understood why it

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00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: was there. It's not quite understood the purpose, um, except

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00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: for perhaps probing checking out the place, checking you out,

541
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: testing the air quality. I don't know, the laundry situation.

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00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. Um, we just don't know. I mean,

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00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: what are they poking around about? For me? Uh? They

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00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: sent in grays that were going through my house like crazy,

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00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: and they woke me up, and I got up to

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00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: think that somebody had broke into the house. And no, no, no,

547
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: just about nine little grays who were terrified. I was

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00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: around conscious interrogating them, asking what the heck they were

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00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: doing there, and um, not getting answers. And I got

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00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: a little frazzled with them, and uh yeah, I kind

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00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: of picked one up. But anyways, I mean again, you

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00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 1: know a lot of people are like, well, no wonder

553
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: the aliens are afraid of us because we're a violent race.

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00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't at It was more my being thinking somebody

555
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: had broken I was in flight or fight for my life,

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00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: and I was not violent on the kid. It was

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00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: a kid, by the way. It was a hybrid looking thing,

558
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, who are you and

559
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 1: what are you doing here? I'm like, you know, shaking

560
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: it and asking questions and and the other beings were

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00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: lying or frozen and place and it was just a

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00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: really confusing time. It's it's weird when you have these

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00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: moments like that, and I'm not a person to panic

564
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: or anything like that, but it was definitely a traumatic

565
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: event and I felt like I needed to figure it

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00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: out or get the heck out of there, and uh,

567
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: so you know I had to. Uh, I did what

568
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: came first and asked the questions and did what I

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00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: had to do. Now, in your situation, you had these

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00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: things crawling on your ceiling and it sounded like a

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00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: praying mantis type of thing that you're talking about, but

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00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: it turned out to be a shadow cat. Those things

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00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: used to also be around me so much. Um, but

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00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: they are connected to the aliens checking you out and

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00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: probing your place. Why would they do this, Well, they

576
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: want to control who you are, whatever your potential is.

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00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: You must be a person who's able to see and

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00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: experience things that a lot of people cannot. And they

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00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: do like to move on in control that, keep that

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00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: under wraps, keep a light on that subject. So you

581
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: are not helping to guide others to realize the reality

582
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: that we're in is not what we think it is.

583
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, now these beings are not there to be

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00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: kind or anything like that. And then the shadow spiders.

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00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: I mean, just throw me a rope to get out

586
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: of the room, because that is one of the scariest

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00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: things to see. Those guys, I could not stand them.

588
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: Those are the ones I've seen the most of. So

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00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you had to experience what you did, and

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00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: you said you want to talk to me in regards

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00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: to what it is that you've experience. I tell everybody

592
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: find me on social media, usually at one Heidi Hollis

593
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: for Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, send me a message, tell me

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00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: what's going on. We could chat there. Um, I don't

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00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: usually jump on a call and do get a lot

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00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: of people them too. That as that, and I'm like,

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00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: oh man, there are enough hours in the day, but um,

598
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: I wish I could, but definitely tell me what's on

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00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: your mind or even email me back Heidi Hollis at

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00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: gmail dot com or go to Heidi Hollis dot com

601
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: and we can chat there. Damian, I really appreciate you

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00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: taking the time to write me here. And we're gonna

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00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: get to our next break. You guys, you are listening

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00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast I AM Paranormal

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Speaker 1: Podcast Network. Stick around, please wish be ground. Hey, it's

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Speaker 1: George and Orian. Thank you for listening to the I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio on Coast to Coast a paranormal podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: Here we go with more Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with

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00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast

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Speaker 1: to Coast I AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Just before the break,

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00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 1: we had a very interesting email from Damien who had

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00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: witness something that was obviously alien, some kind of really

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00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: funky technology that I personally have not heard of. Um,

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00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: I've heard of inner workings of like orb looking contraptions

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00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: floating through neighborhoods and odd things like that coming into

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Speaker 1: a person's home, different types of probes and all of

619
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: that kind of jazz and connecting the dots to say

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00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: that these things when you started seeing these shadow cats

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Speaker 1: and um other things that you called shadow creepers and

622
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: the shadow spiders in your home, I mean it just

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00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: goes to show there's a pattern, and UM, a lot

624
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: of people like it just doesn't make sense. He says,

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00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: they walk pot through walls and and they paralyze me.

626
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, guess what aliens do that too? Um, And

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00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: it's like, well, maybe these are just because they're in

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00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: another dimension. They're just another type of alien that could

629
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: do this or that. And it's like, well, yeah, they've

630
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: got alien ties and they are from other dimensions, and

631
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: they do invade other planets in our system and beyond.

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00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: Um it sounds so strange, But how many millions of

633
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: planets are out there? And uh, and why would these

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00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: things infiltrate the way that they do. There are so

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00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: many answers to that, and we're all trying to help

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00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: contribute to the answers. And UM, I'm telling you it

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00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: is a work in progress. And UH, all we can

638
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 1: do is tell our stories, right, And UM, I've learned

639
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: over the years that sometimes you know, everybody's an individual, right.

640
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: We all have our experiences and our understandings and our perspective.

641
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean, for crying out loud, I have stood in

642
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: a crowd of about fifty people to see a UFO

643
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: meet with another very unique UFO in the same sky

644
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: right above us. And uh, it was diamond shaped and

645
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: I saw one color and one shape and the person

646
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: next to me saw another color and another shape. I mean,

647
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: just amazing the perspective of people that could be in

648
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: the same space. Uh, just like when they say when

649
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: you witness a crime, people pay attention to different details,

650
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: or they're in umber of different things, or you know,

651
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: our perspectives are different for a reason. And we all

652
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 1: contribute to the puzzle. I mean, for witness the crime,

653
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: will all piece that puzzle together, and uh, catch the guy.

654
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: You know, I saw his shoes were blue. Well, I

655
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: saw that his hair was red. You know, it's so

656
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: many contributing factors that I think are wonderful that we're

657
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 1: able to do. And everybody, everybody is so worried about

658
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: Well you know that person thinks they're special. Their ego

659
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: is so big and they're saying this that this is

660
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: their experience and they're so much better or unique than

661
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: the next one. And um, I have seen a lot

662
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: of ego out there in the world, and uh, the

663
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: paranormal and UFO world is no different. Okay, you're gonna

664
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: have your scientists, even that are competitive. Um, you're gonna

665
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: have your professors. You're all sorts of people. I mean,

666
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: they all have this competitive streak, A lot of people do.

667
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm not a competitive person. I never have been. I

668
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: could care less like, oh I beat you in the race, Like,

669
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: oh that's funny, that's great, very good for you. I

670
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: just I'm not competitive like that. UM. My thing that

671
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: drives me is to try to inform people. I think

672
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: that it's a it's a privilege and an honor to

673
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: be able to help. UM. So when I say what

674
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say next, when it comes to experiences, UM,

675
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: why I wrote my first book while I was in college,

676
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: it's because I couldn't find any information on what it

677
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: is I had experienced. And then a lot of messages

678
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: came my way by way of some of the experiences

679
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 1: I was having. When it came to alien contact, UM

680
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: and witnessing angelic things and then Jesus encounters. I know,

681
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: I know, I know, it sounds like I'm a therapist.

682
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: I get it, you know. And it's like all I

683
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,959
Speaker 1: could do was be honest about it. And I'm glad

684
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: that the things trickled in the way that they did,

685
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: because it's like, okay, handle the haunted house. Okay, now

686
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna handle some demonic stuff. Okay, here we go. UM, Okay,

687
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: now we're gonna give you a little dash of alien. Okay, alright, okay,

688
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: put that on the plate. I got enough plates. Okay,

689
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: we're good. Um, all right, here's some Jesus. It's like,

690
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: hold on, I had left that. I'd left that that

691
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: biblical historical figure, you know, topic for being the the

692
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: center point, you know, growing up, that was something that

693
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,479
Speaker 1: was instilled in me and my siblings. You know, Um,

694
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: I believed in God. I kept that. Okay, yeah, okay,

695
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: you you trickled that in. And then some angelic stuff,

696
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: and then some creatures and then oh my gosh, Bigfoot.

697
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: And I've experienced a lot of things, okay, and I

698
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: always just thought, you know, bad luck, strange, strange stuff.

699
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, other psychics would say, oh, you're a medium.

700
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: I don't have a title for any of this. I mean,

701
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm not looking. I'm a Midwest girl. You know. I'll

702
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: just I thought, okay, you know, I might put in

703
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: a book if I have space, if it comes to mind.

704
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: Because there's so many things. I literally started forgetting some

705
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: of the things. Um, like apparently I had a dream

706
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: of the World Trade Center, um, with the crash with

707
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: the airplanes, and I told my friends and I hadn't

708
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: seen them for years. I go to see them, like,

709
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, your your dream, your dream. I'm like,

710
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: what it's like? It was right, I totally forgot. I

711
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: totally forgot about it. So um, some of the experiences

712
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: that I've had, and they're so widespread, I had to

713
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: be open and honest with myself that, Okay, something's going

714
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: on here, something's different. I don't know what it is,

715
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: and uh, I can't always put it in a box.

716
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: But I could put it in a book and I

717
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 1: could talk about it with my friends and family and

718
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: you guys and hope that it helps. But you know,

719
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: some sometimes sometimes, um, you know, when you take these

720
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: steps forward and you put information out there, and somebody

721
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: might grab it and try to distort it, and that's dismaying.

722
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: So it could be really really detracting from the message

723
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,479
Speaker 1: you're hoping to put out there. But my whole thing

724
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: and mentioning this right now is, uh, you know, when

725
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 1: people have like past life or something, they're always a prince,

726
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: a king, princess. I don't know. I mean, nobody cleaned

727
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: the floors of a bathroom, you know, nobody was the

728
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: guy that fed the horses. You know, it's just always

729
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: something significant. And I was a brave warrior, you know,

730
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: I was a samuraick GNG Okay, you know. Um, So

731
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: it's like I get it. You know, it could look

732
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: like ego with that. So it's really really something I

733
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 1: tried to avoid to talk about that type of thing too,

734
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: because I've been around this for a long enough time

735
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: to know that even for me, it turns my stomach

736
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: when I just see these patterns. So, um, you know,

737
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: I know what I know, and I want people to

738
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: be confident in what they know to be true for themselves.

739
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: I've had people more recently say why have I for themselves?

740
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: Why have I remembered this was a past life? You know,

741
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: what's the significance? How can I make this helpful to

742
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: contribute to this lifetime? Now? One of the things that

743
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: I was taught in some of the alien contact I had,

744
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: and it wasn't with Grays, I wasn't abducted, I didn't

745
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: have any of that stuff. Always have to say that

746
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: because people say, oh, alien abductee, No, no, um. But

747
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: I was told that this lifetime is an accumulation of

748
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: many lifetimes and many lessons, And it's not about learning

749
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: right here always. Yes, we learned, of course, as we'm

750
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: of along, but it's also about remembering all those little

751
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: bits that make us who we are today. So if

752
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: it was a past life, past teaching, past schooling, because

753
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: that's something that I've experienced quite a bit, is uh

754
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: being schooled on the other side, go figure, where is

755
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: that place at? You know. I've asked other people too

756
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: that say, well, I was taught in a classroom. It

757
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: felt like it's like, oh, a classroom, you know, how

758
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: is it for you? For me, it was quite different. Um.

759
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: And I try to find others that have experienced in

760
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: these things and sometimes, you know, I'm hesitant to mention

761
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: it because I've learned that these are things that a

762
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: handful of people are looking information for. First off, that

763
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: is that weird? Um? Yeah, I did not know that

764
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: until these past couple of years, to be honest. Um.

765
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: And then I've also learned that some people and will

766
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: make it their own, you know, like, oh that was me.

767
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: I had that exact same thing. Um. I shared something

768
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: once with a researcher. You know it's like, oh, tell

769
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: me your story about that. Well, I don't talk about

770
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: this part much, but um, they shared it, and I

771
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: kid you not didn't talk to that researcher for maybe

772
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: a year. Next thing, I know, they're telling me my

773
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: story back to me as if it happened to them,

774
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: not kidding, not kidding. It's like, uh, you didn't tell

775
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: me that when we spoke. Suddenly it's you were there too,

776
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: exact same thing. That's really really interesting, you know. It's

777
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: like hard to take that seriously and then then to

778
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: know and that's a reputable quote unquote reputable person in

779
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: the field, and I'm like, oh my, how often do

780
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: they do that? You know? It distorts the information out

781
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: in the field because if there's enough people repeating the

782
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: same story, well one of them's got to be a phony, right. Um,

783
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: So that's a shame. So I hope that doesn't deter

784
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: people from speaking out. I know it has for myself

785
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: at times. And U I understand the fears of this

786
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: because it's happened to me, and it's happened to me

787
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: in a grand scale. Hello, shadow people, hat man. People

788
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 1: think I came up with that following something else. I've

789
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: never heard of it before, Are you kidding me? I

790
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: was in college and I was in a really difficult program.

791
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: I didn't have time to look at other people's stuff. Um,

792
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: you know, and people said, well, when I was a kid,

793
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: I called them shadow people do it well great? Uh

794
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: you know, I'm that's awesome. It does happen, you know. Um,

795
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: I just took the extra step and stepped out of

796
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: my comfort zone. Was very shy and uh, you know,

797
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: how to speak my truth and and I hope everybody

798
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: learns to speak their truth out there and believe it

799
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: or not. I had another email I wanted to share,

800
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: but I felt this was important to discuss here on

801
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: the show because I think there's a time of change coming,

802
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: and I think it's very important that we find our

803
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: strength within us and point others in the direction, put

804
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: a little trickle of information out there that helps another,

805
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: and we'll really get somewhere and be prepared for what's

806
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: to come. Never doubt the human potential. All Right, you guys,

807
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: don't forget to go to my main website, Heidi Hollis

808
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: dot com or shadow Folks dot com. Write me, tell

809
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: me what's going on out there, or tell me who

810
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: you'd like to have on this program. You have been

811
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on

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814
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815
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