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Speaker 1: The fields on a group proudly presents Huddle Up with

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. J P. Shacker, John Ojan and NFL Network

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Speaker 1: analyst and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest

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Speaker 1: on George Jackson Hill Jaguars. Everything's got to be about

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Speaker 1: the future, has got to be about tomorrow and bringing

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Speaker 1: all that into focus as we you know, the tack

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Speaker 1: the season Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks starts right now.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in to another edition of the Huddle Up Podcast.

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Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick with the NFL Network analyst Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com senior writer John Osan as well. Give

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Speaker 1: us a listen on the podcast page at Jaguars dot

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Speaker 1: com or the official Jaguars podcast Network. It's on iHeart Radio, Apple, Spotify,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, here we are

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Speaker 1: back on Wednesday. It's Rookie Mini Camp week. John Osan's

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Speaker 1: to my left, Um, Bucky Brooks's way out to our

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Speaker 1: left on the West Coast. Hi, Bucky, what's up? Nothing?

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Speaker 1: And I'm really excited. You know, it's my favorite time

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Speaker 1: Rookie Minicamp is what every scout looks forward to. It

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Speaker 1: is a culmination of all the hard work. You now

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Speaker 1: It's almost like unwrapping the Christmas gifts. Well, they can

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Speaker 1: I appreciate Rookie Minicamp for exactly what Bucky says. I

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