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Speaker 4: Yes, indeed we have Jay Valentine and Alicia Keys, Pops,
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Speaker 5: I'm not that old back you are, David, but I'm
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Dad on Broadway. Yeah, I
Speaker 5: play a twenty twenty something, almost thirty year old, phenomenal job.
Speaker 2: By the way, if you haven't seen it, you've got
Speaker 2: to see him. Now you're back on Broadway for how long?
Speaker 2: I actually took the whole family to go see it.
Speaker 2: But how long are you back on Broadway for?
Speaker 5: It was originally two weeks, but then I added a weekend,
Speaker 5: so it was what like twenty two shows? So I'm
Speaker 5: here to the thirtieth.
Speaker 2: It's a perfect Christmas gift if you want to take
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Speaker 1: Definitely a phenomenal job.
Speaker 4: He does a phenomenal job.
Speaker 6: I love the show that's that's when he walked into Charlataanne'
Speaker 6: getting old. You should use my product, my kit, my kid. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and I'm like, rewind.
Speaker 1: The time, wind the time. Then you say, let me go.
Speaker 1: You got to have hair. You want to? You want to?
Speaker 1: You want to see my hair? That's crazy, No on
Speaker 1: your face. I don't know what you're talking about that hair.
Speaker 3: Just keep it.
Speaker 5: That's a stocking cat for all those I'm used to
Speaker 5: cutting off the foot of the stock.
Speaker 1: And I'm a school.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: One day I was asking to change my picture because
Speaker 5: the picture on the box looks looks like they put
Speaker 5: a crackhead filter on me. And I said crazy, I said, Joe,
Speaker 5: that's not how I look. I never looked like that.
Speaker 5: Somebody hated on me. Can you please change the picture.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna change the picture for you fans. I promise
Speaker 5: I'm gonna change the picture. We went through.
Speaker 1: Months and months and months, please change the picture. Finally,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Joe, this is getting disrespect changed.
Speaker 5: He's getting disrespectful, and that next thing I know, I'm
Speaker 5: getting the letter in the mail.
Speaker 1: You will not be renewed. And never changed the picture.
Speaker 3: Look, they got to.
Speaker 7: Inventory so I think they kicked me out and brought
Speaker 7: Nori in.
Speaker 4: You Andy got the same? I guess color we don't
Speaker 4: have the same.
Speaker 1: Nothing.
Speaker 6: On the next episode of Joe and Jada, we find
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Speaker 8: You ain't called him back and say no, no, Joe
Speaker 8: ain't hitting me back.
Speaker 1: Damn damn you New.
Speaker 9: York, New York, right, Papa, I'm gonna pull up on him.
Speaker 3: You know who else in New York? Ray J and
Speaker 3: Rage said he won't smoke.
Speaker 6: Can't mess with me by training. Wow, it's gonna take
Speaker 6: me nine months. What do you think, Valentine.
Speaker 5: Begins, that's a fact. Yes, he can beat me. What
Speaker 5: doing pool out? Doing pool?
Speaker 1: Nigga?
Speaker 6: He said, you can't mess with him if he trained,
Speaker 6: but it's gonna take him nine months only specify.
Speaker 1: I guess, but guess, but guess what he said? I
Speaker 1: love you. He don't love nobody. Everybody. Everybody else said
Speaker 1: I'm going j can do no wrong.
Speaker 6: Ranch So funny because he said it, but then he
Speaker 6: thought of about it like it's going to take me.
Speaker 5: Here's the thing about ray J is that nobody's really
Speaker 5: paying attention to he's smart. He's smart, and he has
Speaker 5: a diversified portfolio.
Speaker 1: I get it you.
Speaker 5: Some people may be able to sing better than him,
Speaker 5: some people may may be able to outperform him, whatever,
Speaker 5: but you're not going to beat him in terms of
Speaker 5: lasting and being in a relevant conversation as long as
Speaker 5: he's been in it period. It's connected to everything, everything
Speaker 5: from music, everything to making social social.
Speaker 6: I said that morning, he's what I call an anchor being.
Speaker 6: In comic books, they call it an anchor being. He's
Speaker 6: an anchor bean to tech.
Speaker 1: He's in tech didn't break, but soon they broke. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 8: If he if J stopped like doing all the things
Speaker 8: he's doing and really focus on his voice, we would
Speaker 8: hear a better singer of a ray J. Yeah, Brady,
Speaker 8: But conversation it was him versus Mario, and people are
Speaker 8: like he can.
Speaker 5: In the beginning, ray J was going there and then
Speaker 5: I just think that he just I think he was
Speaker 5: just happier doing more like to be a singer. Singer
Speaker 5: like you really got a hyper focus on singing, and
Speaker 5: other things suffer as a result of that. You know,
Speaker 5: a lot of those guys are good listen good singers,
Speaker 5: got it, but they're not there.
Speaker 1: They can't out entertain ray J. That's true. They can crowd,
Speaker 1: you know. I don't know what he what's what's the
Speaker 1: what's the one you?
Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on, But.
Speaker 1: It felt like it was a panther on the inside
Speaker 1: of that. I don't know.
Speaker 5: And guess what we were talking about. I don't care
Speaker 5: who performed well at that one music festival. Guess who
Speaker 5: we were talking about.
Speaker 6: I wanted to ask both of y'all a question, right
Speaker 6: y'all all the host of the R and B Money podcast,
Speaker 6: and I was thinking about this with the conversation that
Speaker 6: Mario and Cam Newton was having. Is there a proper
Speaker 6: R and B etiquette? Should other R and B singers
Speaker 6: talk about who can and can't sing?
Speaker 1: I believe you can. You can say what you feel.
Speaker 1: That's you know.
Speaker 10: I don't tell nobody what they can say or how
Speaker 10: they can feel about anyone else. And music is subjective,
Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying? Like and Tankers tell you,
Speaker 10: I'm the guy who calls him.
Speaker 1: I'm like, have you heard this song? And it might
Speaker 1: be the whole song might be off key.
Speaker 10: I'm like that ship jammin though, right, Nigga, that ship
Speaker 10: jam mhm it's about how music make you feel.
Speaker 1: If we're gonna go back into who's the rated singers,
Speaker 1: then we just got to go to church mhm.
Speaker 10: And we all know outside of Kurt Franklin and the
Speaker 10: ORLANDA Adams, it ain't a whole bunch of money on.
Speaker 1: That side of it.
Speaker 10: So if we're talking about making money and making popular music,
Speaker 10: the voice is subjective and and can can people really
Speaker 10: get what they're trying to get out of.
Speaker 1: The song we're talking about? What's the song we were
Speaker 1: just listening to in the back.
Speaker 5: If that would have been like a gospel style, if
Speaker 5: that had been a gospel style singer, it wouldn't have worked.
Speaker 5: Mark Morrison returning to Mac No no good singer could
Speaker 5: It's no elevated singer could have singing that.
Speaker 10: It had to be that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 10: It's like, it's it's a style. When we're talking about
Speaker 10: in popular music.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's style wised.
Speaker 5: So when you have the okay, who's gonna come out
Speaker 5: here and flat foot sing for each other, we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't really have it.
Speaker 10: So I mean you can you can say it and
Speaker 10: oh this person is best singer, and that person better singer.
Speaker 10: But then it's like the who sells the most records,
Speaker 10: But that would say that.
Speaker 6: I put a list right now, and I said, Tank,
Speaker 6: who can really sing? You would play that game.
Speaker 1: I already see where this is going. I don't. I can't.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, because because my voice means
Speaker 5: so much more. When when when these guys hear me
Speaker 5: say something like if if if I didn't matter, if
Speaker 5: we weren't the authority on all things R and B,
Speaker 5: if I wasn't a guy who's written and produced and
Speaker 5: sat down and had conversations with all these guys about
Speaker 5: music and life and how you know this is what
Speaker 5: you need to do to do this and do that.
Speaker 5: Like I'm in a place where I can't even I
Speaker 5: can't even do that. I gotta, I gotta. I gotta
Speaker 5: encourage all of them, because I inspire all of them,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? So I gotta tell, I
Speaker 5: gotta tell either whatever you have, this is how, this
Speaker 5: is how you frame that, do that, put that there
Speaker 5: and then with that sonic by this, and then that's
Speaker 5: the guy I can be. So you know when you say,
Speaker 5: is Mario allowed to do that? Mario can he can't
Speaker 5: every right, I can't.
Speaker 2: So now let me ask you, when you have a
Speaker 2: computer that can make that voice perfect, right, I'm talking
Speaker 2: about the AI Young. How does that make you feel
Speaker 2: when somebody could type in lyrics into a program, push
Speaker 2: into and it comes out with this amazing song with
Speaker 2: this amazing voice, and this person gets paid a lot
Speaker 2: of money.
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it.
Speaker 10: Why I'm not mad at it because I just believe
Speaker 10: that we are constantly evolving into something right if it's
Speaker 10: and it's just another form of business. And I'm and
Speaker 10: I'm happy for a young girl out of Memphis, Mississippi,
Speaker 10: where somewhere out there where she's from, that was able
Speaker 10: to make a living off of it. To me, I'm
Speaker 10: never I'm never knocking anybody who figures out a way
Speaker 10: to make a living.
Speaker 4: Does that hurt the craft?
Speaker 5: But let's take it back though. But let's take it
Speaker 5: back though, because we've got to go back to the beginning.
Speaker 5: Because me, I have albums, many albums, many songs with
Speaker 5: no auto tune mm hmm. Now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: I'm competing against singers who aren't singers who can't necessarily
Speaker 5: hold that note, that can't necessarily do that run that
Speaker 5: they're not as technical as I am, but the autotune
Speaker 5: is holding them up and helping them almost.
Speaker 1: Sound as good as I sound. Technically.
Speaker 5: We've been fighting against AI for a long time, Grammy
Speaker 5: for absolutely.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And guess what I said. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: care what the playing field is.
Speaker 6: Let's play fight out and I think it's a time
Speaker 6: and place for all.
Speaker 3: Then I don't think all the two works in the bedroom.
Speaker 5: You I just I disagree with you because you have
Speaker 5: heard a tank with you just don't. It's not just
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't t paying my auto tune right,
Speaker 5: but I understand how to use the tool.
Speaker 8: And I also think have you seen Tank perform live?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 8: So I think once we've seen I'm a live performer,
Speaker 8: we wouldn't even think there would be.
Speaker 5: Anything because I don't need it, right, But I understand
Speaker 5: the sonic behind it. I understand why it cuts through
Speaker 5: and why what it does on radio and what it
Speaker 5: does when it comes through your head. I understand sonically
Speaker 5: what that is. That's just me being an engineer time rewind.
Speaker 6: But I think it's something to being able to grab
Speaker 6: a microphone anytime, anywhere.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 5: That's why, and that's why it doesn't matter. It's just
Speaker 5: another player in the game that we are competing against.
Speaker 5: I don't care who it is. Let's fight, let's compete.
Speaker 1: And it's enough space for ever. It's enough space.
Speaker 5: You have Whitney Houston, you had what's what's uh American idol? No no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: the one that we should be, the Laker dancer.
Speaker 1: Like you are.
Speaker 10: People are acting like this is new where you don't
Speaker 10: have one end to the other end you're always going
Speaker 10: to have.
Speaker 1: But it's still a person. This ain't a person, but
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 3: Still assisted was in a video with a cat, a
Speaker 3: cartoon cat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's different, he was.
Speaker 5: It's different, but it's just today's version of it. And
Speaker 5: you gotta understand we're not going back. We're not going back.
Speaker 5: So does that figure out your prompts? You're executive, right, yes?
Speaker 2: Would you have a sign and artist that you got
Speaker 2: to deal with, makeup, hair, manager, security, all that, or
Speaker 2: AI person that you ain't got to deal with nothing?
Speaker 4: You cut a check and just let the money come.
Speaker 10: If you tell me that person you just said, it's
Speaker 10: Caliney telling in Kayliney, it's perfect tell me that person,
Speaker 10: it's Scissor summer Walker.
Speaker 1: I'm taking it.
Speaker 4: Most people won't invest that money to get to where
Speaker 4: a Scissor is, won't take that.
Speaker 10: The real executive is going to see that. They're going
Speaker 10: to see Victoria Monday. They're going to see her drive.
Speaker 10: They're going to see how hard she goes in and go, oh,
Speaker 10: this is going to connect. Because that's the other thing. Now,
Speaker 10: you also have to talk about how an artist feels
Speaker 10: to people. An ar artist, you know, you're just like, Okay,
Speaker 10: that's a video game. You like to play it a
Speaker 10: little bit, But are you in love with it like that?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 10: So the human aspect still kicks in when it comes
Speaker 10: to that, Oh I love this artist. These people love
Speaker 10: the artists that I just named. They love Chris Brown,
Speaker 10: I love Mario, they love ray J bro. I go
Speaker 10: to my phone and I'm trying to see what Raj
Speaker 10: said today.
Speaker 1: I'm not I ain't gonna help you. Yeah. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you can't replace that.
Speaker 5: But I ain't mad at somebody getting their bread in
Speaker 5: another way, you know, I mean I'm not.
Speaker 1: You know that. Don't bother me. The labels are going to.
Speaker 5: They're gonna sign AI, Yes they are, and then they're
Speaker 5: gonna use some of that aid money to take a
Speaker 5: chance on humans.
Speaker 4: How do you patent it?
Speaker 2: Because you're putting it into a system so yours could
Speaker 2: sound exactly like hers.
Speaker 1: Well not, they're not gonna be able to do that.
Speaker 1: So that's where it gets everybody.
Speaker 5: Because the little Barney thing that almost kind of sound
Speaker 5: like me and and Sam Smith and and somebody else
Speaker 5: had a baby, the little Bernie. I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 5: I'm thinking about going to see them niggas.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like little Barnie.
Speaker 5: You ain't seen the Barney guys singing R and B
Speaker 5: in the rain. It's going around. Everybody can tagging me on.
Speaker 5: I'll show it tell you. But I mean, once you
Speaker 5: start trying to sound like people that already exist and that,
Speaker 5: that's when we start are having an issue.
Speaker 10: And I think that's that's probably in the works as well.
Speaker 10: I mean, I got some homies that's trying to figure
Speaker 10: out how to copyright all of that, and you know
Speaker 10: cultural you know cultural I P and that those those
Speaker 10: type of things. So as in anything, they got to
Speaker 10: figure it out, you know what I'm saying, you know,
Speaker 10: we're all old enough to realize napster and and and
Speaker 10: know what we went through during that time and seeing
Speaker 10: the music business change, and they figured it out. I mean,
Speaker 10: they figured out another way to rob us again. But
Speaker 10: then you you also figured out a way to give
Speaker 10: opportunities to people who would have never had them.
Speaker 3: Well, let's stay here for a second.
Speaker 6: Y'all too have seen damn near every evolution of the
Speaker 6: industry for the most part. What's the biggest lie the
Speaker 6: industry ever sold?
Speaker 3: R and B artists.
Speaker 1: M I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't think that there's I don't think that there's
Speaker 5: a lot that they sold. I think the truth about
Speaker 5: what happened to us was never told. And I think
Speaker 5: we've had that conversation in terms of what we ended
Speaker 5: up having to compete against as male artists, against you know,
Speaker 5: rappers singing melody and kind of replacing us in the
Speaker 5: charts space. Like we weren't honest about that conversation. It's
Speaker 5: like R and B died. No, R and B didn't die.
Speaker 5: We're still here. But you're just you're not giving us
Speaker 5: our spots. You're giving our spots You're not You're you're
Speaker 5: letting bad singers, uh sing songs, but you're penalizing good singers.
Speaker 1: We're doing too much. Well, you singing gen and Juice
Speaker 1: on the podcast Nobody Nobody.
Speaker 4: You're blaming it on the rappers.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, I blame it on I blame
Speaker 1: it on economics. It was just math.
Speaker 5: You know how much it took to make you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, A Voice too men album? You know
Speaker 5: how much it took to make a Jackson album? Yeah,
Speaker 5: but then when you had that first hit, come Come,
Speaker 5: Come out of the basement of the Bronx or in Harlem.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, for.
Speaker 5: Two hundred dollars and some chicken and you sold two
Speaker 5: million of them.
Speaker 1: Right, there's a whoo how do we get more of that?
Speaker 10: But I think what what him and I figured out
Speaker 10: early on too, was we could make R and B
Speaker 10: cost effective and that like we had a conversation with
Speaker 10: Atlantic Records, I don't know, fifteen years ago and we
Speaker 10: and you know, we were trying to figure out how
Speaker 10: to make it make sense. And him and I were like, yeah,
Speaker 10: we got home studios. We can write and produce it ourselves.
Speaker 10: If we want to bring in our friends, we can
Speaker 10: and we'll set a certain number that we go up
Speaker 10: to so that when we turn in this album, he
Speaker 10: makes money week one.
Speaker 1: YEP.
Speaker 10: And we went in Atlantic and we restructured our deal
Speaker 10: and we was like, now, don't we don't want that upfront.
Speaker 10: We're trying to make back end money. Now, we're trying
Speaker 10: to make, you know, money that's gonna last for our kids,
Speaker 10: for us later on in our lives. So that upfront
Speaker 10: that you've been selling people on which you know everybody knows,
Speaker 10: that's debate.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. If I give you a dollar,
Speaker 1: I gave you a dollar, so you owe me.
Speaker 10: We're saying, you know, we're saying, okay, well this is
Speaker 10: what this is what's gonna take for us to make it.
Speaker 10: And then we proved that the business model worked, and
Speaker 10: we saw a lot of other people in R and
Speaker 10: B start doing the same thing because before it was
Speaker 10: very expensive to make R and B music. You need
Speaker 10: a studio for a month, two months that you know,
Speaker 10: the artist is showing up to two three days out
Speaker 10: of that time. We're like, no, no, we're gonna do
Speaker 10: this right. You know, We're gonna cut the fat and
Speaker 10: we're going to really do real business. And I think
Speaker 10: R and B had to figure out how to do
Speaker 10: real business. For a minute, R and B was it
Speaker 10: was wild, like niggas was charging.
Speaker 1: One fit track.
Speaker 3: I know, I know.
Speaker 10: Niggas that was getting jewelry on the on the budget
Speaker 10: absolutely like wait, producers, y'all got y'all got jury off
Speaker 10: of his song.
Speaker 5: But you know what, all right, there was that So
Speaker 5: and we were in a privileged position, yea, because we're
Speaker 5: we're a to Z so we can write it, produce it,
Speaker 5: all of that, you know what I mean, at a
Speaker 5: at a level, you know what I mean. So at
Speaker 5: a at a point where some artists they need to
Speaker 5: run to that high level producer, they need to run
Speaker 5: to that high level writer, and it is going to
Speaker 5: cost them to get in the game. We we kind
Speaker 5: of were blessed to wear I mean charging ourselves. So
Speaker 5: we just we just bet on the back end. We
Speaker 5: just created a different type of business so that we
Speaker 5: could do we could do rapper business.
Speaker 6: So let's simplify. If you had the power to change
Speaker 6: one thing about the business side of R and B,
Speaker 6: what gets fixed for us that like what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Now, budgets budgets.
Speaker 5: No, I think the budget part is easy because I
Speaker 5: think at this point, now everybody understands that, you know,
Speaker 5: the days of you know, fifty hundred thousand dollars tracks over.
Speaker 5: Everybody's trying to figure Now everybody's trying to get placements
Speaker 5: because everybody can produce. Now, everybody can write. Now you
Speaker 5: see AI, don't don't think it's not don't think those
Speaker 5: submissions have of those submissions aren't AI. So now everybody's
Speaker 5: now trying to figure out how to get those placements.
Speaker 5: The only thing that I would change in terms of
Speaker 5: of R and B business is just the marketing promotion
Speaker 5: of it. I would just add more money to that
Speaker 5: part of it, because yeah, but we need to we
Speaker 5: need to.
Speaker 1: Be put on bigger stages. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 10: I think asking artists to try to figure out how
Speaker 10: to go viral all the time it's tough. That's that's
Speaker 10: really that's a tough space to put an artist in.
Speaker 10: And it's and it's really it's the same thing when
Speaker 10: you talk about promoters and they're like, oh, we we
Speaker 10: need tank to post a hundred times, Well, nigga, aren't
Speaker 10: you a promoter?
Speaker 1: Title?
Speaker 10: This is your title. This is what you do right.
Speaker 10: We need to be able to see you know, that
Speaker 10: street team again. We need to see those type of
Speaker 10: things we need. And I think for me, I would
Speaker 10: love to see artists campaigning again, meaning like really going
Speaker 10: going to those you know, doing those school tours, doing
Speaker 10: those HBCU tours, getting out there because everybody can't come
Speaker 10: up here. We know that now you guys are you
Speaker 10: know this is a premium, but there are so many
Speaker 10: people walking around with cameras and and with phones that
Speaker 10: are trying to interview artists and artist like, oh yah,
Speaker 10: I'm good.
Speaker 1: Now when you're trying.
Speaker 10: To get popping, I don't care who walk up to you.
Speaker 10: You better hop on that, hop on the on their
Speaker 10: little phone and help.
Speaker 1: Let me help you.
Speaker 10: I didn't watch this man like, hey man, your camera dirty.
Speaker 10: Let me let me wipe that down for you. It's
Speaker 10: cook so we got a good picture. That's to me,
Speaker 10: that's what I want to see change. I want to
Speaker 10: see the artists not just live behind the computer no more.
Speaker 10: And you know, I kind of answered the question around,
Speaker 10: but that's what I would I would like to see
Speaker 10: a change as far as from from an art and
Speaker 10: be standpoint too.
Speaker 4: There's no street teams anymore.
Speaker 1: There's no labels that do. You got to be on
Speaker 1: street team. You got to get out in the streets.
Speaker 2: The majority of the artists I've ever seen a lot
Speaker 2: of them before doing radio was at Hampton.
Speaker 1: That was a stop.
Speaker 2: There was the Morgan Howard Carolina stop and you see
Speaker 2: everybody right, and it would always come for free and
Speaker 2: they would perform on the yard on top of a car,
Speaker 2: on top.
Speaker 1: Of a bustle in the auditorium.
Speaker 4: That's but they don't have that.
Speaker 1: And that was the promo tour.
Speaker 4: That was the promo tour.
Speaker 5: Now the promo tour is just on your phone, TikTok.
Speaker 5: That's that's their version of promo tour.
Speaker 3: Here, he said, Man go outside and feel the day.
Speaker 1: Man feel the day is what they call that. I'm
Speaker 1: going outside the field. Like how Cardi B did her
Speaker 1: roll out for her amazing. She was amazing. But that's her.
Speaker 5: But that's her anyway, that's her a static anyway, she's
Speaker 5: tapped in with the people. That's my thing. I'm I
Speaker 5: don't I don't care when nobody else do. I'm with
Speaker 5: the people. I judge my success off people and and
Speaker 5: and and the money and all these other things. Those
Speaker 5: are the byproduct of taking care of people, being there
Speaker 5: for people, and that's what artists, again seconding with J
Speaker 5: Jay is saying, you got to get back to the people.
Speaker 5: Man Like I am an advocate. Atlantic Records will tell
Speaker 5: you I just got the BMG shout out to BMG
Speaker 5: uh with our with our new deal here. But I'm
Speaker 5: just saying from in terms of the past, I was
Speaker 5: an advocate. Hey, guys, I want to go on a
Speaker 5: promo tour, but Tank, you don't have to do that.
Speaker 5: I want to go on a promo tour right right, So,
Speaker 5: as a Tank who didn't have to do a promo tour,
Speaker 5: I'm laying in the back of a of an s
Speaker 5: u V, a suburban going from state to state, the
Speaker 5: state to state, city to city. That's what I'm doing
Speaker 5: because the people are important. You can't lose sight of that.
Speaker 6: I'm old enough to remember, Jay Records Recording Artists. Tank
Speaker 6: will be at the Guilliard Auditor.
Speaker 4: Recently seen climps do with the.
Speaker 1: Same meet and greets, luncheons. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You know how many program directors I done call it
Speaker 5: their kids, I done call it. They wise baby, Mama's
Speaker 5: all of it. That's what we gotta do. That's what
Speaker 5: AI can't do right right. It's a separator.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: It R and B finally at the point where artists
Speaker 6: can be financially free without having the crossover cross over
Speaker 6: to what like when everybody was doing like.
Speaker 1: The pop records, the big Yeah, the one, the one,
Speaker 1: big Friend.
Speaker 10: Well, I think you you gotta make music for the masses, right,
Speaker 10: you have to, you know, because that we're entertainers. But
Speaker 10: sometimes the best you crosses over, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 10: And I feel like and I feel like Rap showed
Speaker 10: us that, you know what I'm saying. Fifty second perform
Speaker 10: anywhere anywhere with the same records that he made for queens.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, they were they were you know I I
Speaker 1: if you have a strong enough hook that can take
Speaker 1: you anywhere. I mean, shoot, Kaylney Kate had.
Speaker 5: That's a very army record. Very different kinds of records,
Speaker 5: very R and B all different kinds. Chris Brown is
Speaker 5: at all different kinds of record. Residuals are very armby
Speaker 5: residuals unfolded or as R and B as they come,
Speaker 5: and they are.
Speaker 1: They are math world records. Like you said, the best
Speaker 1: version of you. Yeah, yeah, that to me.
Speaker 10: You know, I felt like when artists were chasing that,
Speaker 10: it just didn't seem authentic, you know what I mean.
Speaker 10: It didn't seem like who they were. And you know,
Speaker 10: they were chasing the whole four on the floor thing
Speaker 10: and it came and went, and I feel like it.
Speaker 10: I feel like it hurt. I feel like it hurts
Speaker 10: some people. I feel like I heard some artists too
Speaker 10: when they did that chase that big like I.
Speaker 2: Don't want to say people were raposited to it hurt,
Speaker 2: but for.
Speaker 1: Some I think they won.
Speaker 5: I think it just depends on how you do it too, though,
Speaker 5: how you you know, how you add that aesthetic into
Speaker 5: into your brand, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like when Neil did it, Like when Nel did it.
Speaker 1: I don't think it hurt him.
Speaker 5: I don't think it hurt Neil. I think that was Neil. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I think I think Neil is. I think Neil is
Speaker 5: a world artist. I think he's a He's a great
Speaker 5: R and B artist, songwriter, all of these things. But
Speaker 5: I think Neil is is great at appealing to the world.
Speaker 5: He's a world artist.
Speaker 6: Point appealing to the world with sexy loves and stuff
Speaker 6: like that.
Speaker 5: Not when you but even sexy but even sexy Love,
Speaker 5: if you listen to it, it's like it's it's still
Speaker 5: a bigger record. It's not a traditional arm Sexy Love
Speaker 5: is not a traditional R and B record.
Speaker 3: A little bit.
Speaker 1: It's it's got you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Now, when you go okay, Now, when you go there
Speaker 5: and you say, okay, maybe that was far, but when
Speaker 5: you watch him actually perform it, you said, oh no,
Speaker 5: that's crazy, No, that's him.
Speaker 4: But when I play those crossover parties, I don't place
Speaker 4: you love. I played that record him.
Speaker 1: And it goes crazy.
Speaker 5: You go, yeah you you try to close after nail
Speaker 5: somewhere overseas, somewhere in London.
Speaker 1: Good luck, my friend. You're talking about that now.
Speaker 2: You said online that you believe that Usha is a
Speaker 2: better singing than R.
Speaker 1: Kelly and people they did it at.
Speaker 9: Lussia, is a better vocalist than Kelly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, USh is technically a better vocalist than R. Kelly,
Speaker 5: way more tools.
Speaker 9: I thought you you can't say that type of stuff though,
Speaker 9: I see you growing up.
Speaker 1: Over there like.
Speaker 5: These guys are these are my actual peers. Got you
Speaker 5: these guys are you know what I'm saying? R Kelly
Speaker 5: is O g This is a different conversation.
Speaker 3: It's like joy. It's like Jordan Lebron Jordan's.
Speaker 5: We're talking about guys at the top of the stratosphere,
Speaker 5: like we're having a different conversation.
Speaker 1: Is gonna lead this nigga voice?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 1: I know you didn't say he was better than you
Speaker 1: wouldn't say he was technically technically okay, technically.
Speaker 3: We don't hear.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means. Technically okay.
Speaker 5: Like like like I said, for instance, I always bring
Speaker 5: this record up. But Climax mm hmm. Or Kelly couldn't
Speaker 5: have saen Climax mm hmm. Not many people could have
Speaker 5: stayed Climax. But where Usher went from from false to
Speaker 5: natural mm hmmm without without without hearing, the hearing the transfer,
Speaker 5: like that type of thing special incredible. It's like watching gymnastics,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Like everybody lands, for some
Speaker 5: people stick, you know what.
Speaker 10: I'm saying, Singing everybody don't always stick. Like if you
Speaker 10: listen to Climax, every note that he sings on that record,
Speaker 10: he sticks, like it's like this period, no move, ain't
Speaker 10: no step back, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That shit is flawless. So I mean, but sticks sticks.
Speaker 1: Everything she's singing on there, it just sticks.
Speaker 5: I mean, which why you have so many singers trying
Speaker 5: to emulate it, right. They're trying to because because now
Speaker 5: now certain certain singers or certain songs are study material,
Speaker 5: it becomes that, like R. Kelly is a product of
Speaker 5: so many things when it comes to study material. It
Speaker 5: was swag, it was content. It was actually him, excuse me,
Speaker 5: him turning R and B into this rap thing that
Speaker 5: was like what what what is this? The first R
Speaker 5: and B thug? Like what are we looking at? And
Speaker 5: not that R and B cats ain't been tough, but
Speaker 5: he framed it in a way to where it's like
Speaker 5: R and B singer was like, I gotta get a chain.
Speaker 1: Our castle corral.
Speaker 5: R Kelly made it so you had to get a
Speaker 5: has some tims like you gotta it can't be too
Speaker 5: soft no more.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: Then he then he gave you balance with you know,
Speaker 5: half on the baby with the silk pajamas on. You know,
Speaker 5: I'm walking barefoot like wife a minute, so I can
Speaker 5: do both. So when you talk about r Kelly, You
Speaker 5: talk about it's so much that goes into that, but
Speaker 5: when you just break it down to one thing vocally,
Speaker 5: that's just that's just an elite. He's an elite vocalist.
Speaker 6: So what's the one vocal mistake you see new artists
Speaker 6: making the day.
Speaker 1: That's a great question.
Speaker 10: They don't rehearse, there's one they don't rehearse, and you
Speaker 10: can tell there's one. You can tell, you can you
Speaker 10: can you can see it. You know, my father used
Speaker 10: to call it polish Dad. They're not polished, and you
Speaker 10: don't see a lot of new artists that are polished unfortunately,
Speaker 10: you know what I mean. And you just like, damn man,
Speaker 10: like you should have left that in the oven a
Speaker 10: little longer, you know what I mean, Like you should
Speaker 10: have just because there's there's something like when people call
Speaker 10: you and they have you perform at things, or they
Speaker 10: have you show up for something, you can always tell
Speaker 10: that somebody spent hours and hours rehearsing going over that.
Speaker 10: Like when you know, let's be two kay, those guys
Speaker 10: are polished, and when they came out they were polished.
Speaker 10: You could tell they were in the lab for years
Speaker 10: waiting for that opportunity. You'll see a group now and
Speaker 10: you're like they called a wave or artists or whatever,
Speaker 10: and you're like, damn, I just wish when you catch
Speaker 10: that wave, I hope you look in that mirror and go, Okay,
Speaker 10: I gotta get ready now. I got to really start
Speaker 10: because these people want me to perform. So I'm not
Speaker 10: gonna take this show in August. I'll take it in
Speaker 10: October or November.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I'm a wait because when they see me, because when
Speaker 5: they see me, they gotta see me like, yeah, as
Speaker 5: this polish started, the stake they make too is And
Speaker 5: I actually was able to do this with a Marion
Speaker 5: as you bring up B two que. A lot of
Speaker 5: producers just write songs and produce songs, and they aren't
Speaker 5: considering the vocal range of an R and B artist,
Speaker 5: And so a lot of times when you're in the studio,
Speaker 5: you can get something off in the studio because it's takes,
Speaker 5: you're fresh every take. But when you have to sing
Speaker 5: a song from top to bottom live in the show,
Speaker 5: that's where it gets different. And so a producer, a songwriter,
Speaker 5: even that artist for that matter, has to understand what
Speaker 5: key they can actually sing in it, Like, so what
Speaker 5: can you what key can you sing in where you
Speaker 5: can deliver this song from top to bottom every night?
Speaker 5: And that's what I did for Marion and oh and
Speaker 5: I was I was listening to him sing and I
Speaker 5: was like, I was like, they're writing everything outside of
Speaker 5: your key.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 5: We want the hype because the hype when it comes
Speaker 5: on the radio and the people singing live. I said,
Speaker 5: but that's not your key. I said, you sing down here,
Speaker 5: even when you're here talking voice. He's like, I was like, no, no,
Speaker 5: we're going to bring you down here. The highest note
Speaker 5: that you're going to sing is that's the highest note
Speaker 5: you're That's that's how you're going and we're going to
Speaker 5: stay right there. And so that's I think that's not
Speaker 5: even just on the singer. That's on the people who
Speaker 5: are actually crafting the music and don't take time to
Speaker 5: actually get to know the artists and there and what
Speaker 5: they're bringing to the table.
Speaker 2: And I think that's why people compare Chris to Michael
Speaker 2: Jackson all the time, not that they can be a comparison,
Speaker 2: but if you ever see his show, you see him
Speaker 2: flying around the air and flipping and stancing, and it
Speaker 2: still sounding.
Speaker 9: Glen Mike is still on from top to bottom of
Speaker 9: the show, like that's ridiculous, and then here go do
Speaker 9: a meet and greet and then probably go in the studio.
Speaker 1: Is different and it was long.
Speaker 4: His show is like four hours hours.
Speaker 5: No, we're not all aliens, We're not on aliens. The
Speaker 5: two people completely not from this planet. Whitney he was another,
Speaker 5: said christ Michael Jack.
Speaker 2: But Whitney to Whitney. When you when you listen to
Speaker 2: Whitney alien, no matter what she sings, you.
Speaker 1: Be like, how the hell you get that?
Speaker 9: No doubt, and then be singing, smiling, smiling, Yeah damn
Speaker 9: she got stand up, hold the stomach.
Speaker 8: And that happens when the artists right, So like and
Speaker 8: Omary was lucky that you were able to hear that
Speaker 8: and do that, But like today, these artists aren't getting
Speaker 8: those producers right sometimes and then they don't know their
Speaker 8: own identity enough to be like, no, I shouldn't be
Speaker 8: singing there. How do you navigate that if you have
Speaker 8: that wave? And it's because I think sometimes I see
Speaker 8: artists and I'm like, dang, they have the moment, but
Speaker 8: you can tell their still trying to figure out who
Speaker 8: they show up as, like what they got it.
Speaker 5: Well, it's it's two part, right, because as an artist,
Speaker 5: a lot of times you don't even know what to
Speaker 5: ask for, right, You're you're just looking for success, and
Speaker 5: however it comes right, you don't know what to do.
Speaker 5: On the other side of it, You don't even know
Speaker 5: what to do going into it. You just look up
Speaker 5: and have this thing. And so a lot of the
Speaker 5: oners or the responsibility is on the artists who desire
Speaker 5: or seek more in terms of understanding from the gift,
Speaker 5: to the marketing, to all of these things. But then
Speaker 5: it falls on the people around them. Right, So if
Speaker 5: there's a manager and all of these cool things that
Speaker 5: are that are coming into play, and then let's go
Speaker 5: even further than that, when people who do know when
Speaker 5: the label comes in and the people who are trying
Speaker 5: to make money off of all.
Speaker 1: Of these things, who know better, they should know better,
Speaker 1: they should know.
Speaker 3: Better, and they should do better.
Speaker 8: But they always right because because back to the labels,
Speaker 8: Hey where's my camera, where's my camera?
Speaker 10: Start hiring black executive again. Okay, hire people who actually
Speaker 10: grew up in the music, know the music and can
Speaker 10: tell you how to make the music all right, go ahead,
Speaker 10: ty yep.
Speaker 5: Well, because because again if we go back to where
Speaker 5: you know, there was a plethora of black executives, you
Speaker 5: see the difference in how the artists l A. Re
Speaker 5: wrote songs, wrote songs. Jimmy Seme, Terry Lewis Maker and
Speaker 5: Andre Herrel was music.
Speaker 1: He was music, I mean like and we can go
Speaker 1: down the list of like.
Speaker 5: Is music like Jermaine dupri Is music and.
Speaker 8: They were talking about how the boutique labels and like, yeah,
Speaker 8: clip go so virbral and is exactly what you're talking
Speaker 8: to search it for that now we know it.
Speaker 5: And so if when we see somebody that's doing something
Speaker 5: like you understand, we sit and talk with everybody, all
Speaker 5: of them, and we say, hey, man, you should try
Speaker 5: this and and think about doing this. And when your
Speaker 5: people that's what we do so much, unpaid consulting, we
Speaker 5: do that just as.
Speaker 1: Much, so much. But it's not even about it's not.
Speaker 10: Even it's not even about it's not even about labels
Speaker 10: hitting us up. To me, it's it's it's more so
Speaker 10: about person. It's about labels really putting us back in power.
Speaker 10: And it's not when I say us. I don't just
Speaker 10: even mean me and him. Dallas Austin should run a label.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Jermaine depreciated run a label. Yeah you get what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, why not?
Speaker 5: They know this ship, they know it, they live, they
Speaker 5: like everything.
Speaker 9: The work ethic is the same coming from the artist,
Speaker 9: like y'all were hungry like people.
Speaker 5: You know what you know where the work you know
Speaker 5: a lot of times you know where a lot of
Speaker 5: times the work ethic comes from. It comes from It
Speaker 5: comes from respect, right, because certain that that's if we
Speaker 5: check it. The sports, certain players know when a certain
Speaker 5: coach walk in, it ain't no ship to be played.
Speaker 1: Today, right, Are they playing with a certain player? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Cooka back in shape. Yeah yeah, they was.
Speaker 5: Taking beers and ship from him in Dallas. He played
Speaker 5: at Lakers with Brian Nigga. Look like you're reading a
Speaker 5: model and everybody around you falls in line. So artists
Speaker 5: are going to Artists are going to do or get
Speaker 5: away with what you let them get away with, right,
Speaker 5: and what they respect.
Speaker 10: Like if you when you go in the studio with
Speaker 10: Jermaine dupri you're like, and you look at that wall?
Speaker 10: Are you look at the wall and Jimmy Jimmy Tyr
Speaker 10: Lewis or baby Face Wall and you're like, this is
Speaker 10: everything I want. I'm going to give my best, you
Speaker 10: know what I'm saying. And then they you know, they
Speaker 10: walk us out the pasture too early, right they ah,
Speaker 10: you knows.
Speaker 1: You used to do this. So that person used to
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 5: Jermaine dupri just had here records, big ones, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 3: But even bigger than the hits.
Speaker 6: If you create something that's timeless, if somebody's created something that's.
Speaker 10: They can do it again, give me a chance to
Speaker 10: do it again, you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 5: We have this thing just what you said, we gotta
Speaker 5: we gotta, we gotta dive into that more. Why is
Speaker 5: it that? Why is it that we allow our black
Speaker 5: artists to age out and writers and producers and writers
Speaker 5: in producer, Why do you know a producer unfolded Drey
Speaker 5: Harris from Drey and Vidal, who was part of creating
Speaker 5: neo soul in Philly, Jill Scott Music Soul, he's a producer.
Speaker 5: He's a producer on folded.
Speaker 10: Absolutely, you know what I'm saying, Like, all these these
Speaker 10: young artists, why aren't these labels send them to like
Speaker 10: a Brian Alexander Morgan.
Speaker 1: Who did s w V period.
Speaker 10: That turned out, so it has to happen more and
Speaker 10: and and and salute to the artists that are saying
Speaker 10: because it's it's not even I don't believe it's their
Speaker 10: teams in there in the labels.
Speaker 1: It's the artist now saying this. You know, I need
Speaker 1: to go see such and such.
Speaker 5: As an example of that, you know, as as you
Speaker 5: see the the texture that Kilane is playing with now
Speaker 5: in this very R and B, very early two thousands
Speaker 5: kind of things that she's doing.
Speaker 1: Guess who she called. She called me.
Speaker 5: She called Antonio Dixon like she's like, I need that,
Speaker 5: I need some of that. And so that's why I
Speaker 5: go back to some of the onuses on the artists
Speaker 5: to do your do your work, do your homework.
Speaker 6: That makes a lot because you all did that with
Speaker 6: her A folded folded gonna be around for a long
Speaker 6: time since the babyface did snooze.
Speaker 10: Right, Chris Rick times like it's it's some really talented
Speaker 10: people out here, man, and you know him and I
Speaker 10: both do this.
Speaker 1: Man, I'll call him.
Speaker 10: I'll be like, bro, I just came from I just
Speaker 10: I was at the studio of Victoria Monday. You'll call
Speaker 10: me just hit me, kline hit me. I gotta play
Speaker 10: some records, you know what I mean? Leon Thomas out
Speaker 10: Tie Dollar Sign. We like, I think, what's what's happening?
Speaker 10: And we're we're trying to be the people who stand
Speaker 10: in front of it is the real tap in, Like
Speaker 10: we really, we really are tapping in. We really are
Speaker 10: sitting with artists. Jacob Latimore, you know what I mean.
Speaker 10: You know, we all love Jake. We're like, listen, you're
Speaker 10: a superstar TV. Now it's time for you to be
Speaker 10: a superstar music. So here are the steps, you know
Speaker 10: what I mean. Luke James, Ye, Trevor Jackson.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like Jaydon m h Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like that's like my little brother this ver. You know
Speaker 1: what i mean.
Speaker 10: I'm like, listen, I'm seeing okay, you know, maybe maybe
Speaker 10: one or two extra spin moves that you're doing you
Speaker 10: might need to.
Speaker 1: It's turning into a parelt. I got this stand still
Speaker 1: sing a little more love that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: But love him well.
Speaker 10: Tank said the respect of that though, because they know
Speaker 10: that we're coming from a pure place, you know, what
Speaker 10: I'm saying, and you have absolutely.
Speaker 1: It would be smart for a label to say, hey, you.
Speaker 10: Guys run our black division, if y'all want to call
Speaker 10: it that, hm, you know what I mean? And that
Speaker 10: and that could be in the works. But I'm saying
Speaker 10: it shouldn't just be us mm hmm. It has to
Speaker 10: be more of us and it don't. And I get
Speaker 10: the boutaque boutique label that that's cool too, But I'm
Speaker 10: talking about literally in the building too though, right, because
Speaker 10: this one thing would be to be a partner with
Speaker 10: them and be a little bit on the outside. But
Speaker 10: you gotta be, you gotta be at that Wednesday marketing meeting.
Speaker 8: The system gym because I felt like at first depth
Speaker 8: Jim was trying to do something like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, if j where who R and B was? They
Speaker 1: had they had death, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like producers would be in studios and then at
Speaker 2: that that label the next day.
Speaker 1: I mean, and then you had you had, you had.
Speaker 10: You had real label heads like Jimmy I Van who
Speaker 10: believed in empowering the producers. And my thing is that
Speaker 10: if you've seen what he did with all those producers
Speaker 10: from Polo to Timberland to Doctor Dre.
Speaker 1: You know, why wouldn't y'all continue to follow suit? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like too much?
Speaker 3: Niggas made too much money. They had to cut this
Speaker 3: shit off.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the business wasn't made for us. You,
Speaker 1: me and d just made a billion dollars, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 10: And I think that's the that's that's the mistake that
Speaker 10: that that sometimes.
Speaker 1: We make is in thinking that the business was made
Speaker 1: for us. Entertainment.
Speaker 10: Yeah, the entertainment part is for us, but the business
Speaker 10: never was behind.
Speaker 1: Somebody that just blew my mind. Recently came Brown. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 10: I tell you, I tell you, shout out to Polo
Speaker 10: the don come on man, you talk about you talk
Speaker 10: about bringing black people back into country music.
Speaker 1: Polo to Doe, he kicked that off. He kicked it off.
Speaker 10: Came Brown is black for people that don't know. And
Speaker 10: I remember, I remember he played him for me. I'm like,
Speaker 10: you got young brother, you she canna.
Speaker 1: Work for credible. She can be credible. Take her the
Speaker 1: world again. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: they found a way to, you know, to not to
Speaker 1: not mention Polo about that no more. Well we're on
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Today, we're gonna mention it and we will
Speaker 1: talk about it. I heard that somewhere.
Speaker 3: I was like polo behind Kate Brown.
Speaker 10: Yes, absolutely, you got a new young girl juicy two
Speaker 10: times that I with too, like.
Speaker 9: He got listen. She used to cover through his covers
Speaker 9: all the time. His voice immaculate and she was doing this.
Speaker 9: I remember ago, Yeah, yeah, my girl.
Speaker 1: We hear we here.
Speaker 10: The were here to give people they credit man and
Speaker 10: they flowers and to put light back on them, if
Speaker 10: you know, if they try to take it off of them.
Speaker 3: John he was up here last.
Speaker 1: We love John.
Speaker 6: He said he gave He said, Tank gave him the
Speaker 6: comp gave him his confidence back as an artist. That's
Speaker 6: what you that, he said, because he played a song
Speaker 6: for you in the studio and you said to him, man,
Speaker 6: I gotta get on that record. And he said that
Speaker 6: gave him his confidence back as an artist.
Speaker 3: Did you even know?
Speaker 1: I don't even know that.
Speaker 4: Did he put him on the record.
Speaker 1: You're trying to find it. You're trying to find it.
Speaker 1: You're trying to find it. But the record.
Speaker 6: Thought believe he's like people always say, people say that
Speaker 6: to you.
Speaker 5: No, he played a record for me. He came and
Speaker 5: he came into the pod because I've been asking him
Speaker 5: to come and do the pod. I was like, he said, yeah,
Speaker 5: when I get something going that come just.
Speaker 1: We got you that disclaimer.
Speaker 10: When I put out that disclaimer, you don't have to
Speaker 10: like the Army Money show that we call the podcast
Speaker 10: with a show.
Speaker 1: It's not about an album rollout.
Speaker 2: Most people want something to talk about.
Speaker 10: But but but if you are tenured in this, you
Speaker 10: have a lot to talk about and let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: And you're not limited. You're not limited.
Speaker 5: You're not limited to that time that you come to. Okay,
Speaker 5: now you have something to promote, can you come back?
Speaker 10: Yeah, see you tomorrow. Cool, Well he might be on Broadways.
Speaker 10: We might not see tomorrow.
Speaker 5: There think other things that I'm that I have sometimes
Speaker 5: take precedents. No, But with John I've always been a
Speaker 5: fan of John B. I've worked I worked with John
Speaker 5: B way back in the day, like we Got Lately
Speaker 5: and some other songs like you know what I'm saying from.
Speaker 1: This feature man saying John B is like to.
Speaker 5: Me, excuse me. He's one of those guys. And so
Speaker 5: after the pod, he was like, man, you mind if
Speaker 5: I play you guys some records.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, play playing some shit. You mean
Speaker 1: put him on a big man on a big speaker.
Speaker 5: He played that record. I said, oh no, you can't
Speaker 5: do that without me. You're not gonna get that off
Speaker 5: without me. He said, what do you mean? I said, yeah,
Speaker 5: I need to be on that. He said, are you serious?
Speaker 5: And said, yeah, I'm serious. I made him put me
Speaker 5: on the record, made him put me on records.
Speaker 1: Crazy. And then I said, when are we shooting the video?
Speaker 5: He's like, well, we're trying to. I said, John, we're
Speaker 5: shooting a video. When are we shooting the video? Tell
Speaker 5: me where the video is. I'm on my way.
Speaker 7: I got clothes that comes along with when you when
Speaker 7: you have a featured artist, may be asking for clothes.
Speaker 1: Listen, close, listen. Let me say something.
Speaker 5: When I did I did my Chris Brown shots fire
Speaker 5: back in the day and Chris does everything on the
Speaker 5: house like mind you this is this is one hundred
Speaker 5: two hundred thousand dollars venture easy, easy, He said, big broken,
Speaker 5: you just do do my do my just to cover
Speaker 5: my style?
Speaker 1: I said, absolutely? How much was that twenty?
Speaker 5: But listen, Chris to be on their record with Chris
Speaker 5: Brown and for him to put me on that stage
Speaker 5: with that power. What saves was that when we went
Speaker 5: to Orange County put me on stage for Power on
Speaker 5: O six Power Jim priceless, priceless. You need a twenty
Speaker 5: dollars twenty thousand dollars rack. Absolutely, here we go. And
Speaker 5: so for me showing up for John is the same
Speaker 5: way a lot of you know, Chris Brown would show
Speaker 5: up for me and paying that forward and whatever you need.
Speaker 5: And I'm talking to him about radio. I'm talking you
Speaker 5: need me to interviews like what's going on? And you
Speaker 5: need to hire this guy's in Indy to do you know,
Speaker 5: I'm I'm all in because again John is one of
Speaker 5: one of our guys and he it shouldn't be over
Speaker 5: for him.
Speaker 1: No, he's too good of.
Speaker 10: Course, and we just we once again, you just you
Speaker 10: have to continue to tap in. Charlie Wilson used our
Speaker 10: studio for two months, Gory, I need a studio it
Speaker 10: available to you get him in like that's what we
Speaker 10: have to start doing that and it has to start
Speaker 10: being at across the board.
Speaker 2: What makes you the way that you all take because
Speaker 2: you have great relationships with everybody.
Speaker 4: Not just on b singers that are news except that Joe.
Speaker 4: Besides Fat Joe fired you. I don't know why Fad
Speaker 4: fired you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run down does he have a lot of people.
Speaker 4: With a lot of.
Speaker 1: Okay, so got to be calculated when I roll up on.
Speaker 5: What makes you that way? Jay Jay has this this
Speaker 5: phrase for me. Tank has never met a stranger ever.
Speaker 1: Ever. That's and that's just kind of how I live
Speaker 1: my life. Man.
Speaker 5: Everybody is important to me. Everybody means something to me.
Speaker 5: If I can help, I'm gonna try and tell you
Speaker 5: what you can. If I can't, I can't. But that's
Speaker 5: what makes me me.
Speaker 1: You know. I've often had people try to say.
Speaker 5: Hey, man, you need to be a little bit more
Speaker 5: mysterious man, to not be so accessible, you know, you
Speaker 5: gotta be a star. And I'm like, but that's not me. Like,
Speaker 5: I like, I like touching the people. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. I like I like walking through general populations.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: We were at the bottom on me, Like, that's that's
Speaker 5: just me, man. You know, to me, that is your star,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Like you know the fact
Speaker 5: that you are like that, that that's that's your star.
Speaker 5: That's that's what makes you shine, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: And I've watched him for years just you know, and
Speaker 5: it don't matter what city we're in, somebody is his homie.
Speaker 4: All the time.
Speaker 1: Connected. Absolutely, absolutely, he is the guy that's you.
Speaker 2: In the club, in the elevator, in the I didn't
Speaker 2: see taking so many places he stopped.
Speaker 1: He just starts talking to people. At least you people
Speaker 1: pay our bills. Man.
Speaker 4: He being a club.
Speaker 1: My wife be like, can we go even.
Speaker 9: In Baltimore it's a restaurant. Black sat listen on the counter,
Speaker 9: standing up on the counter.
Speaker 1: And we watched the fight in Baltimore. Yeah, watched it.
Speaker 9: Uh my friends like, you know, we just had to
Speaker 9: take it up on it and they just saying so
Speaker 9: regular and I'm like what he was on.
Speaker 1: The counters black swan acting. They don't let people do that.
Speaker 4: But I mean it's one time.
Speaker 1: You got to leave. Yeah, when they clean it up,
Speaker 1: that's my and I helped clean up, ip clean up.
Speaker 1: I will.
Speaker 3: We're getting on season for the Army money.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not playing with that.
Speaker 10: Sure were we were up now tell them we are, Yeah,
Speaker 10: we we're back, We're back.
Speaker 1: We look here off top authority, whos gonna tell us?
Speaker 1: She said, the authority want somebody said we wouldn't.
Speaker 8: She said that we've already been saying it, but she
Speaker 8: also said it, and I thought that was a great moment.
Speaker 1: Keys not.
Speaker 10: I think now it's just time for us. What we
Speaker 10: realized by taking the hiatus was how important we are
Speaker 10: to our culture, because I don't think we even really
Speaker 10: knew honestly.
Speaker 1: But it's only R and B platform. But it's tough.
Speaker 10: It's tough when you when you're doing it and you
Speaker 10: got your head down and you're doing it, and then
Speaker 10: you're like, okay, you take that little break, and you're
Speaker 10: literally being threatened every day threatened.
Speaker 5: I was putting out a record that it was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's all cool and well, but where's the podcast.
Speaker 1: I can't do no music because I think it's It
Speaker 1: started off for us as a side quest, you know what.
Speaker 10: I mean, just just love Yeah, just love too, homies.
Speaker 10: It's like we're doing it from a pure place of
Speaker 10: you know, we we want to we want to put
Speaker 10: some good energy out into the world, and then it
Speaker 10: turned into what it's turned into, where you know, I
Speaker 10: always say it, I'm like, if they if they stopping
Speaker 10: you at t s A you popping because they see everybody.
Speaker 10: So if they like know that episode with such and such,
Speaker 10: I'm like, ships exactly what this is A this is
Speaker 10: a thing like pople spending time.
Speaker 3: That's why the ARM and B money awards gotta happen.
Speaker 5: Man, what we're doing, Man to break down in the deck,
Speaker 5: man and man driving slow?
Speaker 1: It don't take that long. Man. Maybe you are getting older.
Speaker 3: I think next year we're gonna yeah, no, nothing, let's take.
Speaker 1: We have to happen. What happened. You gotta do it
Speaker 1: in my backyard. You gotta do it live. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: cut it out, cut it out, will.
Speaker 6: Do it, will never do it absolute in his backyard.
Speaker 1: Cut it out right away.
Speaker 6: Speaking of pure thingers, that's another one on Tree saying
Speaker 6: at my boy but car Seller's wedding a couple of
Speaker 6: months ago, no backup track, just the microphone and did
Speaker 6: like force on. I'm like, I forgot this nigga really
Speaker 6: can sing?
Speaker 1: And can I say something? Can I say something?
Speaker 5: And that's what I try to tell this nigga.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, That's why I try to tell this nigga.
Speaker 1: Cut it out.
Speaker 5: M hmm. Cut it out. You need to talk to somebody.
Speaker 5: Call me mm hmm, or call G or call J.
Speaker 5: Don't call them because they don't care about you. They
Speaker 5: don't love you. They're just looking for a reason to
Speaker 5: tear you down. I said, Nigga, you are too good
Speaker 5: and too important and too important for that not to matter.
Speaker 5: When he was making this album and he let me
Speaker 5: hear this album, I said, Nigga, this is the greatest
Speaker 5: album you've ever made. This album is a Grammy Award
Speaker 5: winning album. Don't don't say nothing else.
Speaker 1: And what he do? What do you do? No?
Speaker 5: No, here's the part. It's the part to get on
Speaker 5: my nerves about to ra he be like this. I
Speaker 5: understand you, King, I respect you coming to me this
Speaker 5: way and giving me the good information. And I'm taking
Speaker 5: note and I'm definitely gonna be better as soon as
Speaker 5: I get in the car and pull off seeing this
Speaker 5: is the thing.
Speaker 2: Is live like he's a thousands like that, like I
Speaker 2: told he saying when I was going through my problems
Speaker 2: with my wife and and he came, he's saying in
Speaker 2: the basement of Chiles, no mike, no acoustics, and destroyed.
Speaker 10: It's a croner unless you finally admit that he was
Speaker 10: there for you because.
Speaker 1: I was always.
Speaker 3: Man with.
Speaker 1: Violence.
Speaker 2: That was he comes, it's pause, and sometimes that was crazy.
Speaker 2: And sometimes I think he chased this and that pisces
Speaker 2: me off.
Speaker 1: Is this killed?
Speaker 5: Listen, listen, if you if if you eliminate that from Tyrese,
Speaker 5: is his one of one of our greatest talents. He's
Speaker 5: one of our greatest talents. He's singing, acting, all on
Speaker 5: all on the elite level. Absolutely, and and and that's
Speaker 5: what I want from my brother. I want that for him.
Speaker 5: I want That's what I want people to remember him for,
Speaker 5: not that, not the phoney.
Speaker 8: I got a show coming up together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're in l A November twenty seconds.
Speaker 5: This this this weekend, this Sunday YouTube theater.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this Saturday, sorry, this Saturday YouTube theater. Was leading
Speaker 1: the choreo.
Speaker 9: Wine, you're doing the choreo?
Speaker 3: What the what the choreo?
Speaker 8: Yo?
Speaker 1: You gotta.
Speaker 5: You did see fall up speaker talking about from who's
Speaker 5: leading the choreo.
Speaker 1: That's what she.
Speaker 3: Speaking speaking of, not rehearsing rehearsed when you and this.
Speaker 5: Is the problem I have withwhere clear don't you know
Speaker 5: we know I'm just.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be excellent. I'll schedule two days
Speaker 1: of rehearsals two figures.
Speaker 5: And said, what are we doing rehearsal? I said, was
Speaker 5: rehearsing eight hours?
Speaker 1: Yes, you ain't got to be there for a hour?
Speaker 4: And I hit fatial for a coming here and responding
Speaker 4: to me, I got hit.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I did hear him.
Speaker 4: I said, hey, I said, bro tankers here. He says,
Speaker 4: you fired him any kind?
Speaker 1: He responded.
Speaker 4: I had to tell him what take it was, because
Speaker 4: I was like, he might think it the.
Speaker 5: Box take, you know what? He respond Yet he here
Speaker 5: be back since the firing. I hit him a couple
Speaker 5: of times.
Speaker 8: I was gonna say with y'all, like, you know, the
Speaker 8: ringion happened a while ago, y'all are running back around now.
Speaker 8: What's different with you guys with T g T being
Speaker 8: back together now and running around like that, y'all learned
Speaker 8: from everything that happened prior to Yeah, what.
Speaker 1: If y'all learn.
Speaker 5: This this? This will probably be my last tg T show.
Speaker 5: What That's what I've learned?
Speaker 8: Did they find that out?
Speaker 1: We don't dance that bad?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: I love?
Speaker 5: I love those brothers on a on a on a
Speaker 5: personal level, and just in in artistry. I'm just chasing
Speaker 5: something different. Yeah, and I love, love, love love those brothers.
Speaker 5: My new album is coming out, It's Lonely a Flash.
Speaker 1: My new single, Controls is out right now. Jay Valentine
Speaker 1: is selling Canadas.
Speaker 8: I talk about that, this is the first time they're
Speaker 8: hearing this to y'all. Talk about this because the people
Speaker 8: think that it's like about to be.
Speaker 1: A whole run. Is that the people that I promise you?
Speaker 1: The people don't think that I promise you. Ain't no people, No,
Speaker 1: people know, people don't want off. We're trying to get
Speaker 1: it off real quick. The people believe.
Speaker 6: You.
Speaker 1: Nice, I said, people, people, No, there's no run.
Speaker 6: End on this from from from your vantage points? Where
Speaker 6: is R and B right now? Are we in a renaissance,
Speaker 6: a rebuild or some type of reading?
Speaker 1: We're taking over? We're taking over. Ain't no reading nothing.
Speaker 10: Yes, we are taking over and we are fully behind it.
Speaker 10: We're fully behind it. And part of it mean he's
Speaker 10: still putting our music, you know what I mean. He
Speaker 10: got a great record, Control It's available now, uh everywhere.
Speaker 1: R and B money slash b MG.
Speaker 8: So y'all are behind the business of the record too.
Speaker 5: Yes, they're the distributor. We're not playing you know what
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 10: And we got the R and B Awards coming if
Speaker 10: this man ever, I believe, we believe that we're you know,
Speaker 10: we're doing the first awards at his backyard in one
Speaker 10: of his estates.
Speaker 4: And I love this. RB is taking over. We started
Speaker 4: with ray J.
Speaker 1: He is there Like ray J.
Speaker 5: It can't last in the verses, I don't understand what's
Speaker 5: going on. Wait a minute, could not.
Speaker 3: Could?
Speaker 5: I didn't say over anybody. I said, let's not act
Speaker 5: like he can't last any versus. He's a problem in
Speaker 5: a versus.
Speaker 1: And he is the problem versus.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 1: You know, did you notice walked across the stage like
Speaker 1: eighty two times for no reason.
Speaker 8: Because he can can't Today can begins.
Speaker 1: And that's listen, you said, that's the truth.
Speaker 5: R and B is R and B is here here
Speaker 5: heavy and to stay. We are killing the ship. So
Speaker 5: many dope R and B artists think about the tours
Speaker 5: that can go out man.
Speaker 10: Boys to men In new additions, Tony Braxton shout out
Speaker 10: to the b PC. Listen, we got black promoting out.
Speaker 5: Kelly, you know to say, Kelly Rowland.
Speaker 10: One twelve, the young boy that just won American Idol,
Speaker 10: Roberts that nigga can sing his face off.
Speaker 5: He on the boys face off, the B two K
Speaker 5: boys that right now, Eric and come on now cooking.
Speaker 5: They can't mess with us cooking you.
Speaker 10: We're gonna figure out a way to get these young
Speaker 10: boys on the road together, the two B y G S,
Speaker 10: the Jads Wars, the Papa Jays, Papa Ja.
Speaker 1: It's time people want to have a sexy good time
Speaker 1: without feeling like it's gonna get violent. That's right.
Speaker 10: You sing what Leon Thomas said. I don't have a
Speaker 10: song that would make y'all want.
Speaker 1: To do this.
Speaker 6: Over the years, the R and B niggas been the
Speaker 6: one putting beats on people way more than rappers.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, when you come to my dead well,
Speaker 5: there's no nobody knew but charl Man. Nobody was talking
Speaker 5: about it because we handled ourselves.
Speaker 1: In a certain way. Hey man, come back here real quick.
Speaker 5: Let's get this done, and then we're gonna walk out
Speaker 5: there and sing our songs.
Speaker 1: We're gonna sing our songs. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know now, it's a little different. You know that
Speaker 1: you're pulling out here and I don't have a song
Speaker 1: that requires a fighting audience.
Speaker 10: I don't have a song, yeah, like, but it's it's
Speaker 10: time for this, this good feeling, you know what I mean,
Speaker 10: And everybody wants that especially, It's just it happens with
Speaker 10: with society.
Speaker 1: When shi it is wild in the world, you gotta
Speaker 1: have something to keep you calm, looking for refuge. Shout
Speaker 1: out that the family record and I got them.
Speaker 9: Yes, y'all got a song you featured him on R
Speaker 9: and B Money that song My God Lojah?
Speaker 3: What is it? No is Lisa, y'all?
Speaker 9: Why can't I upload the video to that song? You
Speaker 9: don't know you'll on the country or something like I
Speaker 9: put I tried to put that song, that's one of
Speaker 9: my favorite songs on.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fix that for you.
Speaker 3: Put on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all in this scene, I know you want to
Speaker 1: do something to what you're gonna do to what service
Speaker 1: you have? She tried to and she tried to throw
Speaker 1: the globals.
Speaker 5: They blocked me in Romania, one of my biggest markets.
Speaker 9: That Yeah, shout out the rot Man, He's another We're back.
Speaker 1: R Vy Mundy Podcast we back black Heart.
Speaker 4: Appreciate you brothers for joining us.
Speaker 2: And if you haven't seen Tink on Broadway, go see
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Speaker 4: Amazing show.
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Speaker 2: your daddy, or any Alicia Keys fan Christmas.
Speaker 1: The holidays, oh nough for Christmas? Yes, yeah, get it.
Speaker 1: Tell me cans R and B money shot talk about it.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 10: We about to start putting more merch on there and everything.
Speaker 10: You know, I mean, we got to crack it out.
Speaker 10: It's for marbles. You know what they be saying is
Speaker 10: so and organic and all other stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all that stuff.
Speaker 4: Whatever they say.
Speaker 1: You know, does it smell good? Whatever?
Speaker 3: My period smell like you need to be in my house.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: But I'm sending them to the to the show that
Speaker 1: y'all will all have them.
Speaker 4: Thank you. You know, keep that we can't burn it up.
Speaker 9: Every Now You'll got a lot of other candles up here.
Speaker 4: You're gonna send it up.
Speaker 1: Where's the where's the envy water man in the back?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 2: D I I got fired, not that we get fired,
Speaker 2: but when Walmart to stopped doing the de I business
Speaker 2: and they start doing the business.
Speaker 4: They took the black a lot of the owners of
Speaker 4: black businesses.
Speaker 1: Out of their stores, which makes it more difficult.
Speaker 3: So how did you get fired?
Speaker 4: Then if they get they took my water out.
Speaker 2: So all the water we have now goes to the
Speaker 2: other mom and pop stores to make sure we can.
Speaker 1: We're supporting all things black. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You have it.
Speaker 4: J Valentine is the breakfast club. Good morning?
Speaker 1: Hold up? Every day I wake up, click your glass up.
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club