1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, It's Jay Sheddy and I'm thrilled to announce 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: my podcast tour. For the first time ever, you can 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: experience on purpose in person. Join me in a city 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: near you for meaningful, insightful conversations with surprise guests. It 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: could be a celebrity, top wellness expert, or a CEO 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: or business leader. We'll dive into experiences designed to experience growth, 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 1: spark learning, and build real connections. I can't wait to 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: meet you. There are a limited number of VIP experiences 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: for a private Q and a intimate meditation and a 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: meet and greet with photos. Tickets are on sale now. 11 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: Head to Jysheddy, dop Me Forward Slash Tour and get 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: yours today. 13 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: It's not me anymore. 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 3: Whoever Lizzo is to the world is not really even me, 15 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: and that disconnect is depressing. 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: The Grammy goes too, Lizar, what's making you feel like 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: now is the right time. It's giving you the confidence 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: and courage to feel that way. 19 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: I think what I learned about fame is even if 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: that's really me, it just becomes kind of like character. 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 3: It's a brand that now doesn't belong to you anymore. 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: There was a huge scandal. I was dealing with a lot. 23 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: Just don't love me back. 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 3: I have my first panic attack ever, and I had 25 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: this thought. I was just like, you want to die, Okay, 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: We'll just die like nobody will care. 27 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: I think it's so hard when the things that you 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: stand for are the same things that you're being scrutinized for. 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: So when I pop out on a red carpet, or 30 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: when a video suddenly goes viral and my body's different, 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: it appears like it was overnight. 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: The weight that is no longer on me is not 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: just fat or physical. 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: I released so much to get to this point, and 35 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: to be honest with you, I don't feel like I've 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: expressed myself fully in the last two years. 37 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: Number one health and Wellness podcast, Jay said Jay Sheddy only, 38 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Lizzo, it is so great to have 39 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: you here. I have been wanting to do this for years, 40 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: with such huge fans here. And the last time I 41 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: saw you, you were performing live at Cannes Lions. You 42 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: were on stage for the iHeart Festival. I was out 43 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: there and I'd been told that I had two front 44 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: row seats reserved so that I could hear you. Now 45 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: What happened is I came into the event, I got 46 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: into a few conversations. My podcast producer, who's in the 47 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: back right now, was meant to take me to this seat. 48 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: She's such a big fan that she forgot to take 49 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: me to this seat. So by the time I wanted 50 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: to make it to this seat, the whole crowd was covered. 51 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: She was dancing in the front row, she claimed. She 52 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: claims you said to her that you were really proud 53 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: of her dancing skills, or shouted something out at her 54 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: in a really cool way. I'll have to verify what 55 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: it was. But I didn't get to be front row, 56 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: so I was sitting at the back, enjoying your music 57 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: from the back. 58 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: Frondaby, I know. 59 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 1: How lucky am I, but no, honestly, we're such big 60 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: fans here, and like I said, we've been looking forward 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: to this, and even the first few seconds, we've just 62 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: been powowing and going back and forth. 63 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: It's been awesome chatting it up, honey, I love it 64 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: all right. 65 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: Well, I want to ask you. I saw that video 66 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: on your Instagram. You were standing in a sound bowl. 67 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: I have not been to that class yet. I have 68 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: not seen that before, So what am I doing wrong? 69 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: Well, you don't have my mama and my sister, because 70 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: that was a Christmas gift from them. I remember on 71 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: Christmas Day they got me this. It was like a 72 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: huge thing that they dragged in. It was wrapped and 73 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: I was like, what could y'all have possibly. 74 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: Gotten me in this? 75 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: Hue the We're so excited. And I unwrapped it and 76 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: I was like, what is this like a water bowl? 77 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: And they're like no, And I saw the footprint. There's feet, 78 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: like footprint, big feet prints in it and they're like, 79 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: you stand in it and I was like and then 80 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: what and it's like and then you sound bath and 81 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: I was like this is actually wild and so I 82 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: was having like a really emotional day. 83 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: I was like I was very close to crash out. 84 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: I dragged it outside, took my shoes off, put my 85 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: feet in the earth for a second, stood in it 86 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: and just rang it. 87 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: And I was like, I still don't feel better. I 88 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: thought I fell better and then I hit it. 89 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: I kept hitting it and I was like, oh, this 90 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 3: is kind of fun and it yeah, changed my day. 91 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 3: Brought out my other bowls and I sat and I 92 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: just hummed and played them and it literally. 93 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: Changed my day and I was actually I was pessimistic 94 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: about it. I was like, this is not going to work. 95 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: And that was the first time we tested it out. 96 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 3: I was the first time I tested though since Christmas. 97 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 3: I tested the big one out. 98 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: Wow. 99 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: I was shocked. 100 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I've never seen one with footprints, like, I've 101 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: never seen one that you stand in. I've seen ones 102 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: that you lie down and they play them at your head, 103 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: or sometimes they come and pro a crystal on your 104 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: chest like I've been in those, and I loved them. 105 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: We actually did one with my team. We do a 106 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: team retreat every year, and we did one last year, 107 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: but we did it outdoors and we had this amazing 108 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: sound healer come and lead it. And when we woke up, 109 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: we all could see like shooting stars, Now what is 110 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: going on? And then we realized it was neuralink. It 111 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: was Ela Musk's like, yeah, it's just this thing whatever 112 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: it is, I can't remember it's called. But we all 113 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: woke up thinking like we could see something magical. But 114 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: it is such an amazing experience to have sound heal 115 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: you and that frequency. Did it finally work when you 116 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: were standing in it? 117 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, if my ankles started itching and I was like, 118 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 3: what's going on for Like, ants were calling on my 119 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 3: ankles and I kept scratching at him and I was like, Oh, 120 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 3: that's it's waking. 121 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: It's wake, it's awakening me. 122 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: It's so funny because I host these I call them 123 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: ass rams once a year, so it's like these little 124 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 3: retreats that I do for all of the black women 125 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: in my life that I love and I care about, 126 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: and it's it's like an emotional and spiritual reset. And 127 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: we do sound baths in the morning, and we do 128 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 3: sound baths at night. And this one time I was 129 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: laying there and I like allowed myself to really just 130 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: like go, and it was so trippy. We all saw 131 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: the same thing. I was like, because she was asking everyone. 132 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: They were like, yeah, I saw like pink and purple, 133 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 3: and it was like, yeah, I saw pink and purple. 134 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: And it was like and I saw a galaxy and 135 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 3: was like, I saw a galaxy. So we all kind 136 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 3: of like it's real, Like it I have I have 137 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 3: too much proof that there's something else going on out here, 138 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,679 Speaker 3: and it's all kind of guided by vibration. 139 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: It's all led by vibration, absolutely, and on our very 140 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: very base level. If someone hasn't tried it out, A, 141 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: they should try it out, and B. It's like we 142 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: all know that sound makes us feel a certain way. 143 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: There's songs from your past that make you feel nostalgic. 144 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: There's music that can make you cry instantly. There's sounds 145 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: that make you feel thoughtful and reflective. We all now 146 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: work to low fi beats or whatever it is on 147 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: YouTube playlist, and there's a sense that sound and frequency 148 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: has an impact on us, and this is just taking 149 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 1: it to another level. 150 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 3: So the way I like to describe it because I'm 151 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 3: very like science in woo woo. 152 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: Yes like me too. 153 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: I'm a tourist, so you know, I need like the 154 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 3: grounding of it. We're constantly vibrating. I think when people 155 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: hear vibration they think like, okay, girl, like, oh, we're 156 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 3: on a vibe. 157 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, no. 158 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: You know, your heart is beating constantly, your blood is 159 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,679 Speaker 3: coursing through your veins, and you're like made mostly of water, 160 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 3: So when your heart is beating, it's sending a vibration 161 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: through your entire body. Like if you sit still enough, 162 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: you can feel like the vibration. So it's like everything 163 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: is constantly vibrating, and you can vibrate high and you 164 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: can vibrate lo and you actually have the power to 165 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: control that. 166 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: And once I learned that, I was. 167 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: Like, oh, it's like a cheat code to life, to existing. 168 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: So well said, I love that, and did the playing 169 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: of the sound bows come naturally to you? 170 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: I can play anything. 171 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: I found that, like, I can like if I lick 172 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: my finger and I have a crystal glass, I can 173 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: make a sound. I think that's just one of one 174 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: of my gifts is that. Like when I was a kid, 175 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: I played recorder, and then I played flute, and then 176 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: I played piccolo, and then I can play clarinet, and 177 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: I can play piano, and now I play guitar. So 178 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 3: I think with sound bows, I think I just am 179 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: an instrumentalist and it's an instrument. Give me an instrument, 180 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna make a beautiful sound. 181 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's impressive because it's not easy to do. It's 182 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: pretty challenging. So that's awesome. I'm the guy who can't 183 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: even whistle learn Like. 184 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: Wait, so you can't do the ball Oh no, no. 185 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: No, it's hard. It's hard. My wife's a bit better 186 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: than me. We have we have a few beautiful ones 187 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: at home, but it's hard. 188 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: Oh, I can really make them sing to where your 189 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: ears start to It gets like really loud in your 190 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: ears and you're. 191 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Is somebody in there 192 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: with like a bowl in my head? That's how it's 193 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: started to feel. 194 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: Sometimes I need to come to you one of yours. 195 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, oh my god. 196 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: We're going to open up as story. I'm to everybody 197 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: very soon. 198 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: I love it. That's so fun. And Liza, I know 199 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: you're you're huge into astrology, right, Like that's something that 200 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: you're really passionate about. I was wonderings, have you ever 201 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: had a conversation with an astrologist that that really changed 202 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: your life? Something they said that just shifted everything. 203 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 3: Yes, Channey Nicholas is my like astrologer, and so like 204 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 3: every eclipse season I'm texting her. I'm like, Hey, happier 205 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: clip season, what's happening. But when I so, I've I've 206 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: had a knowledge of my sign ever since I was 207 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 3: a little kid. Like, so, I was super into crystals 208 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: and like, oh, I'm a tourist and like my dad's 209 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 3: a Libra, my mom's aver and like compatibility. But then 210 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: as I got older, when I met Channey Nicholas, she 211 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: taught me about the chart and how like you're more 212 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: than just your son's sign and how you're Big three, 213 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 3: but it's like you're more than your Big three too. 214 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 2: You've got these like asteroids that go through and you've 215 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: got these. 216 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: Like you've got the rock, You've got everything, Your your 217 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: venus matters, your mercury matters. You're that really reframed how 218 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: I think of myself, because it kind of opened me 219 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 3: up to being like, oh, I'm the universe, like I 220 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 3: contain multitudes. Like if I see a tourist trade that 221 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: doesn't resonate with me, is there a Gemini trait that 222 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: resonates with me? Is there a Virgo trait that resonates 223 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 3: with me? And I think the most impactful thing I 224 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: learned from her lately is that we have like house years, 225 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 3: and so twenty twenty three, I was in a twelfth 226 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: house year and that's the year of hidden Enemies, that's 227 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 3: the year of shadow work. And once she told me that, 228 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 3: it like really unlocked for me because I was like, oh, 229 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 3: that makes sense, and then she was like, you're going 230 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 3: into a first house year. So I've been in a 231 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 3: first house year since April twenty twenty four, and now 232 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 3: my birthday's coming up in April twenty twenty five, and 233 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: I have taken advantage of this first house year because 234 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: I'm a Leo rising and my first house is all 235 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 3: about self and how I present. 236 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: So I was just like, I'm gonna go in. 237 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 3: Like everything is routined, everything is like the practice. I'm 238 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: just like am so deep into my practice and like 239 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: loving on myself and rediscovering and redefining who I am. 240 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 3: And now when i move into my second house year, 241 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take advantage of that too. 242 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: What's different about the second house here that you move into. 243 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: So it's gonna be Virgo, which is my moon. And 244 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: actually it's these practices that I've been doing on an 245 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 3: external level, how I like make them internal, you know, 246 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: how I reframe my membrane and rework the nuts and 247 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 3: bolts in my brain and like make it like my life. 248 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: Like right now, it's a routine, but I'm gonna make 249 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 3: it a lifestyle. I'm going to get really cerebral with 250 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 3: my Virgo moon, and I'm gonna get really meticulous and 251 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: I'm going to get really in the paint, like heartworking, 252 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 3: because that's what that virgo is. That virgo allows me 253 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 3: to like work my ass off, and that's where I 254 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 3: really shine and that's where I'm really the most happy. 255 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: That's when I'm working. 256 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: Honestly, Yeah, I'm a virgo. So yeah, yeah, yeah, I 257 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: was like. 258 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're related a little bit. 259 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. I love that and I love how you're 260 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: describing it. It sounds like you're a phenomenal astrologer because I 261 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: feel like there's such a deep way of knowing how 262 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: to use it right. It's not just something that I 263 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: think for all of us who've been exposed to astrology 264 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: since we were young, it was like, oh my god, 265 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: it knows me, it's predicting, it's it's this, it's compatibility. 266 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: But it's so much more. It's like, how are you 267 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: using it for personal growth and self growth? Like how 268 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: do you how do you use that as Okay, this 269 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: is what I'm going to focus on. 270 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I used to be like, oh, 271 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 3: it's what I am and that's why. 272 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: But it's not like, oh I I am a tourist. 273 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: It's I have tourists, which I think gives it a 274 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 3: little bit more purposefulness, and it makes it a tool. 275 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: So I'm like, how can I use my Leo rising 276 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:10,239 Speaker 3: right now, big hair, big personality, big identity, big bold expression, 277 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: color fire. How can I use this fire right now? 278 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: Because that's what I have right now? And then when 279 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: I'm in Virgo? How do I use this earth? How 280 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: do I use this knowledge? How do I use this 281 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: this quest for knowledge, this hard workingness, this steadfastedness. 282 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 2: How do I use that? 283 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 3: How do I use the private parts of myself and 284 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: protect the private parts of myself? I think that is 285 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 3: how astrology has been very helpful to me, because it's 286 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: not just like what I am. I don't just like 287 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 3: settle for it. I'm like like, oh, well, that's why. 288 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 3: Because they are Scorpio. 289 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: That's why I know. 290 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: It's like they have Scorpio and that's what they're choosing 291 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: to do with it. I have tourists, and what I'm 292 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: choosing to do with it is be ruled by Venus. 293 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:51,599 Speaker 2: I want to be all things. 294 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: Beauty and love, you know what I mean, with a 295 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 3: little bit of sprinkle of hard work. 296 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, gluttony, little gluttony. 297 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: I love that. I love the way you're talking about astrology, 298 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: it's so refreshing because obviously you're so deep into it. 299 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: And I think that's and it sounds like that's similar 300 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: to why you a last year you said I'm taking 301 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: a gap, I'm gonna protect my peace. Was that part 302 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: of it? To know that you're in that house here, 303 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: like that was giving you that sense as well. 304 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 3: Man, Once I learned what a twelfth house year is, 305 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 3: it did kind of make sense, you know, because I'll 306 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 3: fight against closing up and isolating. 307 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: I'll fight against it. 308 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: Because it was like a toxic trait that I had 309 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: when I was younger, Like I would get in mind. 310 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 3: You already told you I've been crying a lot lately, 311 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 3: So if I cry, it's not because I'm sad. 312 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 2: I just am real sensitive lately and googly. 313 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 3: I But when I was younger, instead of expressing myself, 314 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 3: I would lock up and get really quiet and shut 315 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 3: down and just like hold it all in. And I 316 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 3: went to a point where I didn't speak for like 317 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: a whole summer. And when I was younger, I didn't 318 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: talk to anyone. I didn't talk out loud. The only 319 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: time I used my voice was at night and I 320 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 3: would sing to myself and that was it. So I 321 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: thought that that was a really toxic trait. And I 322 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: have been working on expressing myself. So when you see 323 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: me online, that's a form of expression for me that 324 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 3: I've worked to get to. When I talk to the 325 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: people who I work with, that's a form of expression 326 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 3: that I worked really hard to get. When I express 327 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 3: myself to my friends and my family and my loved ones, 328 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: I've worked. 329 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: Hard for this. 330 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: So to be quiet was like, oh my gosh, I'm 331 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: reverting back to a version of myself that. 332 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: That I worked away from. 333 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: But I think once I learned, like, hey girl, you 334 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: don't always need to be you don't always need to talk. 335 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 3: Sometimes you need to sit back and just be quiet 336 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 3: and observe what's in front of you now and be present. 337 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: Stop being in the future. Stop lamenting in the past. 338 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: What's in front of you right now. And like when 339 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 3: I said I was on a gap year, I was 340 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: in the middle of it, and I think people were like, oh, 341 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 3: she's about to take a whole year off. I'm like, no, 342 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: I was just in the middle of it. I just 343 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 3: hadn't like expressed myself really and. 344 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: To be honest with you. 345 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: I don't feel like I've expressed myself fully in the 346 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: last two years, like how I want to. I feel 347 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 3: like I've been kind of holding my tongue and like 348 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: staying to myself. 349 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: But I think that it's. 350 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 3: For the best, because, you know, running your mouth these 351 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 3: days sometimes it's just unnecessary, and sometimes it can get 352 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 3: you into some stuff you wasn't even trying to get 353 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: into because people will misinterpret it and run with it, 354 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: as I found when I was like, I'm taking a 355 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: gap year, I'm protecting my peace, but like people were like, wait, 356 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 3: so what's that supposed to me? And I'm like, oh, oops, 357 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: I just I just I just wanted to let you 358 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: guys know where I'm at right now. I'm in Bali 359 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 3: and I'm having a good time, and I'm just like quiet, Oops, 360 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: maybe I should have stayed quiet. 361 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: That's the funny thing, right, Even when you announce that 362 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna go quiet, and it's like it's hard, it's 363 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: hard to figure it out. When when do you feel 364 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: it almost seems like you feel more comfortable now, like 365 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: being stepping your toe back in, wanting to show more 366 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: of yourself, wanting to be that way what's making you 367 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: feel like now is the right time, and what's giving 368 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: you the confidence and courage to feel that way. 369 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 3: What I feel like people don't know is when you 370 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: are a music artist, you are either on cycle or 371 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: off cycle for an album. I think nowadays there's so 372 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 3: much fast turned around with music, and there's like the 373 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: deluxe of an album is kind of like an industry 374 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: standard that I think we've forgotten, like what it means 375 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: to be on cycle and off cycle because everyone's always 376 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: on I had planned on being off cycle. That means 377 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 3: you're not in the media, you're not doing interviews, your 378 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 3: album cycle is done. Like you're not going to be 379 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: played on the radio as much because people aren't working 380 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: your records. You're not going to be promoting anything because 381 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 3: you're working on the next album. So you can be 382 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: on cycle and you can be back in the media. 383 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 3: I'm back in the press and back on tour, and 384 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 3: I think like the best, most simplest answer as to 385 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 3: why I'm back now is because my album's done. Like 386 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 3: it really, this is my job, you know, I am 387 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: a musical artist. I make studio albums, I put them out, 388 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,239 Speaker 3: I promote them, I tour them and I do it 389 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: because I'm really good at music and I really want 390 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 3: to help people with music, because I know that music 391 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 3: has saved my life, so I know it can save 392 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 3: someone else's life, you know what I mean. And I 393 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: think that's like the most simple answer. But I think 394 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: it's loaded this time because at the exact same time, 395 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm going on a vacation, I'm gonna 396 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 3: be in Japan. I'm gonna go to Kyoto and be 397 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: in the woods and like disappear. I also had a 398 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 3: huge scandal come out, and I think that it looked 399 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: like I was shut down or silenced or hiding, when 400 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 3: really it was like, but it's just the end of 401 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 3: my album cycle, and this was planned. So I think 402 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 3: this album cycle, I'm gonna have to do a lot 403 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 3: of work that I'm cool with expressing that and explaining that, 404 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 3: because I don't think people knew or know the difference 405 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: between me being like, oh, I'm off cycle, I'm in Japan, 406 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 3: I'm in the woods and I'm meditating, and oh, this 407 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 3: scandal just happened. 408 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: Where's Lizo, you know what I mean. 409 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 3: So I'm aware of that, cognizant of it, and I'm 410 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 3: up for the challenge of explaining this to the people 411 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: who care about me, because they deserve to know honestly. 412 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's first of all, I think it's 413 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: always an education learning about how a business works. And 414 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: I think if you're not in the business, you don't 415 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: really get it. And I think that's true for any 416 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: career whatsoever, especially careers in the public eye. Right you're like, oh, yeah, 417 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: where did that person go? And it's like, well, the 418 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: way you launch music is you need time to make music, yes, 419 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: and it takes so much time, and it's very visible 420 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: because music's the biggest thing in the world. So you 421 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: see someone for a few months and then you don't 422 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: see them again when they're working on it. So you're 423 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: saying that not only were you meditating, you were traveling, 424 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: you were actually working on new music. Yes, So when 425 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: you said I was protecting my piece, I was taking 426 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: a break for the last year. You were working on music. 427 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: That's what we're hearing now. 428 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 2: Baby. 429 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: When I the last day on my tour was in Tokyo. 430 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 3: I spent a whole month in Tokyo and Kyoto. It 431 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 3: was my first time in Japan. It was my dream place. 432 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 3: I always wanted to go to South a little girl 433 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 3: watching anime. I took that time. I stepped foot back 434 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 3: into America and I walked into the studio. I've been 435 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 3: in the studio since October twenty twenty three, and I 436 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: think I finished my last studio session for Love and 437 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 3: Real Life last week when I mastered it. I've been 438 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 3: working constantly this whole time. I didn't take no time off. 439 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 2: I couldn't. I really honestly couldn't. 440 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 3: I took that little time in Japan that I allowed 441 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 3: it for myself, and I got in the kitchen and 442 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: I rolled my sleeves up because I knew I was 443 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 3: gonna have to do my biggest one, you know. 444 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the new music's great. 445 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 2: Thank you. 446 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. And I feel like, I mean, even 447 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: when you quote it Love and Real Life, I feel like, 448 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: how much of that was inspired by what you passed me, 449 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: you had to go through and the challenges? Well, how 450 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: much was that was just pulling from other parts of 451 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: your life? Was it disconnected or was it connected. 452 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 3: Everything that I do I pull from the strife and 453 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 3: the grief that happens to me because the joy that 454 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: I find eventually, I think is the helpful part. I've 455 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 3: never named an album before writing a song before, like well, 456 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 3: because I love You, I wrote because I Love You. 457 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, this sound like the thesis of 458 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: the album. Okay, we're gonna call this album because I 459 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: Love You. I wrote Special, and I was like, this 460 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: sounds like the heart of the album. I'm a name 461 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: of this album special when I say, I've had the 462 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 3: name Love and Row Life since September October twenty twenty three, 463 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: and I didn't write the record Love and Real Life 464 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 3: until maybe like February twenty twenty four, because I had 465 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 3: a very specific experience and I'd love to share it. 466 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 3: I want to talk about it as much as I can. 467 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 3: And I never like repeating stories because I just feel 468 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 3: like every different and I'm like, let me give you 469 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 3: something different. But this story was so life saved, like 470 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 3: life changing. I told you, Like when I was in Japan, 471 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 3: you know I was doing the best I can, but 472 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 3: you know there was a huge scandal. 473 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 2: I was dealing with a lot. 474 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 3: When I touched down in Los Angeles, it didn't hit 475 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 3: me how deeply affected I was because I had been 476 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 3: trying to be happy for everyone else. I had had 477 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 3: my best friend was there with her kids, and I 478 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 3: was trying to be happy for everybody. I was like, 479 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 3: and I'm in Japan, I should be happy, So I like, 480 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: I was like, be happy. I got in La, I 481 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 3: had my first panic attack ever. I was in the 482 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 3: car coming home from the airport and I like, I 483 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 3: was like, somethings wrong on my chest and I was like, okay, 484 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 3: and I've dealt with anxiety for years, but this felt different. 485 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 3: And I was like, Okay, some going on my chest 486 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 3: and I was like, okay, do your anxiety protocol. An 487 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 3: anxiety protocol wasn't working, like breathing and circular breath, and 488 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 3: I was like, no, something is pressing on my chest. 489 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 3: And I had this thought. I was just like, everybody 490 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 3: hates me. Everybody hates me for something that isn't true. 491 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, because of the 492 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 3: position I'm in, everybody hates me and there's nothing you 493 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 3: can do about it. And I was like, Okay. I 494 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 3: got into the house. I could barely walk and I 495 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 3: like collapsed by my bed and was like, oh shit, 496 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 3: I couldn't breathe. And I was like, and I was 497 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 3: by the bed and I couldn't breathe. And something was 498 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 3: pressing on my chest. And from then on I had 499 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 3: been in a state of depression because I didn't know 500 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: how to fix it. 501 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 2: I was so and I'm not trying to make nobody 502 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: feel bad for. 503 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 3: Me, but man, whoo, baby, I was dark and I 504 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 3: was scared of people. I was like, I was like, 505 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 3: you can't trust anyone, you can't love anyone. I don't 506 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: want to talk to nobody, you know, because there was 507 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: like a lot going on where like people were getting 508 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 3: weird phone calls from people and it was like weird 509 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 3: like stuff going on that I had never experienced before. 510 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 2: Because I was like this, this is wild. 511 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: This is a whole other level of what i've my 512 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 3: job that I've never experienced. And so I was scared 513 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm gonna go to this concert 514 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 3: because I really wanted to go to the concert, and 515 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 3: I was like terrified to go. I was like, I know, 516 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna walk out and somebody's gonna look at me 517 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 3: and be like and you know, I was just like 518 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 3: and there's nothing you can do about it. But I 519 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 3: went anyway, and man, when I say it was the opposite. 520 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: I walked out and I just seen so many people 521 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: look at me and they. 522 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: Were like. 523 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: Lizzo. They were like, oh my god, they were come 524 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 2: be here. I love you, I love you. 525 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 3: And it was just people in the crowd and I 526 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 3: was hugging them and they was hugging me, and I'm 527 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 3: telling you like people were They were like yes, yes, 528 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: they were just like it felt like me cheering me 529 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 3: on being like, you did it. You know, you got 530 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 3: over your fear, you got outside. You can trust people again, 531 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 3: you can love people. People do love you. You're okay, 532 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 3: and you know what, there's something you can do about it. 533 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 2: And you did it. 534 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 3: You stepped outside. And I was like, this is the 535 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 3: this is the only thing that's real. You can't get 536 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 3: this kind of love on the internet. 537 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: You can't. You absolutely can't. And I thought I could. 538 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 3: For years, years because I built my platform on the 539 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 3: validation of sharing myself and being myself with the Internet 540 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 3: and being embraced and being shown love. 541 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: And I was like, this is love. No love is 542 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: in real life. 543 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 3: And I felt it from not I won't even say 544 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: they're fans of my music, just people. Oh. 545 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: It was the most life saving thing. 546 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 3: And I was like, I have to name my album 547 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,479 Speaker 3: love in real life, because I know I'm not the 548 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: only person. I know, I'm not the only person who 549 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 3: sits on their phone and creates a version of themselves 550 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 3: or is told by the world who they are and 551 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 3: starts to believe it, even if it's not really who 552 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 3: you are. You're like, huh, maybe I am not good enough, 553 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 3: maybe I'm not pretty, maybe I'm not cool. 554 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 2: Maybe, and it's like, no, this is a lie. 555 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 3: This may be a reflection of some things, and some 556 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 3: real things do happen on here. 557 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: And I love the Internet. I'm a child of the Internet. 558 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 3: Like, I get down with social media, but I also 559 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: know that if your only sense of self, your only 560 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 3: form of validation is coming from social media or coming 561 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 3: from your phone, or coming from a text back or 562 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: coming from a dating app, it's not going to fill 563 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 3: you up like being in the real world and building 564 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 3: community with people and getting over your fear of it 565 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 3: because it is scary. Yeah, And so I've held that title. 566 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 3: And I was like, I wrote like four love in 567 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 3: real lives until I finally settled on the party stadium version. 568 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: I said, why is this? What's so lit? 569 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 3: Like I wrote these deep emotional ones and then I 570 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 3: wrote this one and I was like, well, that's lizo, 571 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 3: And I think that is when I just when I 572 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 3: just realized, Oh, this is who I am. I go 573 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,479 Speaker 3: through this really really tough shit, man, and it's fine 574 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 3: because I have learned to use my alchemy and turn 575 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 3: it into gold and turn it into meaningfulness and like 576 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 3: acts of rebellious joy that people can use in the world. 577 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 2: And I'm cool with it. That's my mission. 578 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. I love that. One of the 579 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: things that I think you talked about there, which is 580 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: so powerful, is you go through something really difficult. On 581 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: the other side of it, there's this love in real life. Yeah, 582 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: but in between, there's the depression, the darkness, the isolation, 583 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: the worry, the fear, and we all go through that. 584 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: We all experience at some point in our life. We're 585 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: almost feeling like we have to hide. We feel like 586 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: you said, I don't know who to trust to to love? 587 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: Will people accept me? How did you go through that? 588 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: Like what was that timeline? Like? Like what did it 589 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: look like when you woke up? What did you do 590 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: that helped? What did you who support? How did it 591 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: look man? Because that's hard. 592 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: I inadvertently set a lot of boundaries at that time, 593 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 3: and there was more like defenses because I was so 594 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 3: afraid of people that even the people that I was 595 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 3: close to, I just I set up these boundaries and 596 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 3: I disappeared into myself. I'm not even gonna sit up 597 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 3: here and lie and be like I handled it perfectly. 598 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't. It was very messy, and. 599 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: I was hurt by people that I loved, and I 600 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 3: hurt people that I loved at the time. This is 601 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 3: and I'm talking about the depression period. I'm not talking 602 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 3: about me as a boss. I'm not talking about work. No, 603 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 3: I'm talking about October twenty twenty three to now. And 604 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 3: I fought really, really hard for myself, and sometimes when 605 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 3: you fight, it get real messy. I was scrapping. I 606 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 3: was fighting for my life. There was times when it 607 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 3: was like you want to die, okay, well just die 608 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 3: like nobody will care. And I was like, oh, I'm 609 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: talking to myself like that. When did this happen. I'm like, 610 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: love yourself. I'm like stay positive. I'm like, no, you 611 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 3: have to live. You have to live for your mommy, 612 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 3: you have to live for the And it was like, no, bitch, 613 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 3: you want to die and die like this is the 614 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 3: time to do it because everyone to hate you and 615 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 3: nobody cares. And I think that defensiveness isolated me really bad. 616 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 3: But there's something about isolation that turns into solitude, that 617 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 3: turns into introspection, that turns into I am sitting alone 618 00:28:54,840 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: with myself and I can finally see her. I was 619 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: covered up by so much that I couldn't see myself. 620 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 3: I was I was blinded by you know, all these 621 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 3: people in my space telling me who I am. I 622 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 3: was blinded by my career, standing on stage and twenty 623 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 3: thousand people saying. 624 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: I love you, You're amazing. I'm like, okay, thank you. Like 625 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: I got to. 626 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: Push through, and I was never alone. 627 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 2: I was never alone. 628 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 3: Even when I was at home, I'd be like, you 629 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 3: want to come over, Let me let me throw a 630 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: let me throw something, let me throw a pool party, 631 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 3: let me let me have people come over and drink wine. 632 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 3: Like maybe it was a fear of being alone with myself, 633 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 3: maybe it was a lack of self awareness. But in 634 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: that isolation where I think my defensiveness had pushed off 635 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 3: and pushed away the people I loved the most, I 636 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 3: pushed them all away. I got to like sit with 637 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 3: this person, and I saw the things that other people 638 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 3: saw sometimes that aren't the coolest or the nicest or 639 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 3: that I'm the most proud of. I'm like, you are, 640 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 3: You're moody, you're uncomfortable. You forgot who you are, you 641 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 3: forgot why you're here. And I think that during that time, 642 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: I embraced. 643 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: That part of myself. It's like, Okay, you're moody. 644 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 3: Be in a mood, but what do you need to 645 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 3: do to make yourself feel better in that mood? And 646 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 3: what can you do to protect yourself in that mood 647 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 3: and protect others? 648 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 2: Sit by yourself, bitch. 649 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: Read a book, learn how to finally consistently meditate, exercise, 650 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 3: get some fresh air. 651 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 2: Get in the sun. And it was like I forced 652 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: myself to do that shit. That shit is not easy. 653 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 3: I didn't want to an exercise at first, hell n 654 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: but I got one, got that cardio machine, and I 655 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 3: was like, I never regret moving my body. 656 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: I never regret it. I started. 657 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: It's an anxiety technique. It's like you focus on your senses. 658 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 3: What can I smell? What can I taste? What can 659 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 3: I see? What can I feel? And I started doing 660 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 3: that not intentionally. I'm not a genius when it comes 661 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: to this shit. I just started doing it. I was like, 662 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 3: what are you eating? What are you putting in your body? 663 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 3: You're putting things in your body that's making you sick. 664 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: You know, what are you doing on a daily basis? 665 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 3: Your bed riding? And that's fine sometimes, but also when 666 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 3: you're always doing it, your body doesn't move. You know, 667 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,479 Speaker 3: what are you looking at? What are you watching on TV? 668 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: I had to throw my phone away. I'm about to 669 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 3: throw my phone away. I'm like, oh god, it writes itself. 670 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 3: I threw my phone away. I did not look at it. 671 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 3: I told my team, I said anything I need to post, 672 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 3: or anything I want to post, you post it for me. 673 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to look at that shit no more. 674 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 2: And it was hard too because. 675 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 3: I love the Internet, but it's doing a lot of 676 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 3: things that are hard to finally be like, this is 677 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 3: who I am and I need to become I need 678 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 3: to love her and I need to make her the 679 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 3: best version of myself because guess what, even after all 680 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 3: this shit, even after looking at this aspect of myself 681 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 3: that I was like, Wow, that's not my favorite part 682 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 3: of myself. You know, after all the things I've been 683 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 3: through all the relationships that have come and gone in 684 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 3: my life, I still deserve it, I really do. 685 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: And it's all that her And it's all. 686 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 2: I mother got. I'm sorry for cussing, It's all I got. 687 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Because what. 688 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 3: Are you gonna sit up and you're gonna beat yourself 689 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 3: up for the rest of your life about anything that 690 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 3: could have happened, or any misunderstanding or any you know 691 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Well, you're gonna have a miserable life. 692 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 3: Do you want a miserable life? I sat and I 693 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 3: had to ask myself that. I'm like, do you want 694 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 3: to be miserable? Do you want to feel bad? Or 695 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 3: do you want to get back to doing what you do? 696 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 3: And I was like, damn it, I gotta do what 697 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 3: I do. 698 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: I got to. 699 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't be more excited to share something truly special 700 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: with all you t lovers out there. 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And one 724 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: thing you said there, no, no, we were talking about 725 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: Steve Jobs earlier. Steve Job's always talked about how there's 726 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: such a need to disconnect from the outer noise to 727 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: hear your inner voice. And so you can't really hear 728 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: you inner voice unless the outer noise. And when you're 729 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: talking about throwing your phone away and disconnecting, and sometimes 730 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: when we're pushing away the outer noise, we might not 731 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 1: do it in the most graceful way because we've realized 732 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: that tension between like, oh, but I was used to 733 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: that noise being my voice, yes, and now that noise 734 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: isn't what I want to hear. And now I actually 735 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: have to find my voice. Now I actually have to 736 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: like discover it again. I have to like figure out 737 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: what it's even saying and what it sounds like. Right, 738 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: That's what you have to go through. That process. That's 739 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: hard because it's such it can feel so lonely and 740 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: it can feel so isolating. As you said, yeah, as 741 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: you're dealing with that and you're kind of tipping your 742 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: toe back into doing what you love and you go 743 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: out and you have that moment that you said like 744 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: love in real life, and I love the way you 745 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: explained that. I'm glad you told that story. Yeah, when 746 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: I hear you, I feel the same way. It's like, 747 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: when you go out in the real world, people aren't 748 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: shouting that stuff that they shout on the internet. No 749 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 1: one's commenting the thing that you heard in the comment section. 750 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: You're not hearing that. When you're out and about, you're 751 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: seeing real people have real reactions and there's this look 752 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: in their eyes that you all feel and the energy. 753 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: How did it feel after that day? Was it from 754 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: that day you were like, all right, now I feel 755 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: more confident? Or do you still go back and forth sometimes? 756 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 2: Hell no, I'm not even there now. 757 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 3: Like even you being like, oh my gosh, my wife 758 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 3: is such a huge fan and we wanted you on 759 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 3: the show for a while. 760 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 2: I was like, really, like. 761 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 3: I truth, I don't believe it fully and I don't 762 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 3: feel it fully, and I don't know what that is. 763 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 3: Maybe it's from like, you know, I was like a 764 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 3: kind of a nerdy kid in high school and or 765 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 3: especially middle school, and I was like, you know, teased 766 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 3: in middle school real bad, and like maybe it's that, 767 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 3: Like I'm not cool mentality that like never goes away 768 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 3: because those are such formative years. So please be nice 769 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 3: to people in high school because it really shapes your 770 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 3: whole life. It made me cool, it made me a diamond, 771 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 3: but I still struggle with believing love and believing I 772 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 3: am worthy of love, and believing that I am loved. 773 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 3: I think that those are motifs that are definitely still 774 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 3: difficult for me, and I can little tantrums about but 775 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 3: I need. 776 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 2: But that's on me. 777 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 3: I need to sit back, like honestly putting it all 778 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 3: out here. I be on the internet sometimes talking noise, 779 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 3: and it's my insecurities, and I own that. I want 780 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 3: to be more careful with that because of the position 781 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 3: that I'm in now. You know the responsibility I have 782 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 3: now in the state of the internet. Now, I can't 783 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 3: just be projecting my insecurities on the internet. I think 784 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 3: there is a more responsible way to do it, to 785 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 3: where people understand me more and that people know where 786 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 3: I'm coming from and I can make it more of 787 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 3: a personal thing instead of these blanket statements. And because 788 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 3: it sounds like it's coming from a place of anger, 789 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 3: but it's really not. 790 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 2: But it's just coming from these insecure moments that. 791 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 3: I have sometimes where I feel like, man, I feel 792 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 3: like misunderstood, and I feel like people don't get me, 793 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 3: and I feel like people don't see me, and I'm like, 794 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 3: how do I express myself in a way where you 795 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 3: get me and you feel me and you see me, 796 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,280 Speaker 3: and like I want you to know, and I'm working 797 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 3: on it. 798 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 1: And before you would say it, and now you're reflecting, yes. 799 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 2: Before I would say it. 800 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 3: And when I say before, I mean, like a couple 801 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 3: of weeks ago, I'm still man. 802 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,919 Speaker 2: I'm human, Man, I am I'm really in this thing, 803 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 2: human flesh and blood. 804 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 3: It's so wild, but like I think that I'm also 805 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 3: human enough to admit where I could be better, And. 806 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 2: Those are the places where I could be better. 807 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,479 Speaker 3: I was in that giant sound bowl banging that thing 808 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,919 Speaker 3: because it kept me from going on Twitch. It kept 809 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 3: me from going on Blue Sky or going on you 810 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, TikTok and just wow, because that's 811 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 3: not the place for it anymore. I think there's enough 812 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 3: going on in the world. There's enough to be outraged about, 813 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 3: there's enough pain circulating on the internet. I don't need 814 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 3: to share my pain. I need to share my joy. 815 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 3: I need to share my love. I'm a very blessed person. 816 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 3: I get to make music for a living. I have 817 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 3: people who love me. I have people who've never met 818 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 3: me who loved me because of the music that I make. 819 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 3: And I get to travel all over the world and 820 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 3: connect with those people and touch those people. I can 821 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 3: support my family financially. As a fat black woman who 822 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 3: was born in Detroit and raised in Houston, Texas. The 823 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 3: odds were stacked against me, and I beat the odds 824 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 3: and I'm here and I'm surviving and thriving in this world. 825 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 3: I am grateful, and I think that my position is 826 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 3: to always show that gratitude. I want to live in 827 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 3: a constant state of gratitude and I want to and 828 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 3: I want to emit that, you know, and I want 829 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 3: to just really show the world love at all times. 830 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 3: They don't need they don't need no more darkness. It's 831 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 3: enough darkness in the world. They don't need to come 832 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 3: from somebody like me. If I get insecure, sometimes call 833 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 3: your mama. 834 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 2: Call your mama. 835 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like girl, So that's that's 836 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 3: where I'm growing as a person. I'm and I'm proud 837 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,280 Speaker 3: of the person I'm becoming. 838 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Lizen, I was going to say, I think 839 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: it's your music, but it's also because you mean something 840 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: to people, you know, like you've done. When I think 841 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: about my wife and what I was sharing with you earlier, 842 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: it's because you mean something to have. When I was 843 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 1: talking about Helene and my producers, because you mean something 844 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: to Helen. I think you mean something to people. It's 845 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: beyond just they love your music, for sure, but you 846 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: mean something to people. And I think that that's why, 847 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 1: like you said, when we were at school, it was 848 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: all about whether you were cool, on whether you're a trendy, 849 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 1: and whether you were you know, the girl or guy 850 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,919 Speaker 1: or whatever it was. But it's almost like it's even 851 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: beyond that you mean something. It's beyond being cool and relevant. 852 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 2: I think that's where like. 853 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 3: A lot of my points of depression were coming from, because. 854 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 2: I had been. 855 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:47,439 Speaker 3: So fearlessly myself for years. The person that you saw 856 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 3: was the person that you got that was really me, 857 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,800 Speaker 3: and that is really me. The issues that I spoke about, 858 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 3: I really care about the issues I stood up for. 859 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 3: I really want to see change in it really matters 860 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 3: to me. The platforms that I give people, that's real. 861 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,479 Speaker 2: All of that is real. 862 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 3: And I think what I learned about fame is even 863 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 3: if that's really me, it just becomes kind of like 864 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 3: a fictional story that it's a character, it's a brand, 865 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 3: it's a thing that now doesn't belong to you anymore. 866 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 3: And when it got changed, that was what really my 867 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 3: sense of self because I was like, well, now the 868 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 3: person that you know the world is saying I am, 869 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 3: that's not even me, and that's shadow work. I was like, 870 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 3: that's like some shadow self that was created out of 871 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 3: me not being precautious and careful and protecting myself. But 872 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 3: I think that it really depresses me to feel like 873 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,879 Speaker 3: it's not me anymore. Whoever Lizzo is to the world 874 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 3: is not really even me, and that disconnect is is depressing. 875 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 3: And I think the only remedy to that is continuing 876 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 3: to be myself. That's the only time. I just have 877 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 3: to continue to be me and people will see me 878 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 3: for who I am. But I think for a long 879 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 3: time I was really depressed about like, oh damn, like 880 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 3: now there's this like fake character. 881 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 2: Now there's like. 882 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 3: This like and and and you know, I can't blame 883 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,879 Speaker 3: or judge people for believing it, for believing that's who 884 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 3: I am. I can't because I will be in the 885 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 3: same position, you know. So I take the fact that 886 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 3: I mean something to people very seriously. I take it 887 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,399 Speaker 3: to heart, and it's why I have moved the way 888 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 3: that I have moved my entire career, and it's why 889 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 3: I when I when when things happened, I would speak it, 890 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 3: I would take accountability. It's why I did those things 891 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 3: because I know that. And I think when it was 892 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 3: out of my control and someone else could tell a 893 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 3: story about me that wasn't true and people believed it, 894 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 3: it crushed me. Because I know that I mean something 895 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 3: to people, and it's why I'm careful to this day. 896 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 3: I'm never gonna stop being care If anything, I'm more 897 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 3: careful now. I can't just let any author into my 898 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 3: life who can make. 899 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 2: Me a villain. 900 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,760 Speaker 3: I can't do that anymore because I am the author, 901 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 3: and I'm taking back my narrative by continuing to tell 902 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 3: my story from me. And thank you for giving me 903 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 3: the opportunity to do that. 904 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: No, of course, I think I think everyone deserves that, 905 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 1: you know, everyone needs that, and I think it's also 906 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 1: hard when the things that you stand for are the 907 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: same things that you're being scrutinized for, right, It's like 908 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: that's that's what's so hard about it. It's like, when 909 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: you stand for inclusivity and empowerment, being questioned for those 910 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: same things is like so painful and it kind of 911 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: like dismantles your whole identity, even for yourself. Yeah, so 912 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: I can imagine that's really hard, and that's why I 913 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: think everyone needs an opportunity in a platform to be 914 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: able to do that. 915 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 2: But it feels like, strangely like. 916 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 3: It's this thing now where it's like, Okay, if I 917 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 3: stand up for inclusivity, it's invalidated. If I stand up 918 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,359 Speaker 3: for black women, it's invalidated. If I stand up for 919 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 3: body positivity and fatness and stand it up against fat phobia, 920 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 3: it's invalidated because of that. And I was like, wow, 921 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 3: that's convenient, Like these are the things I truly believe, 922 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 3: and I'm not about to just pick up some new 923 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 3: causes because it's the thing to do. I was a 924 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 3: political and very vocal activist artist before it was the trend, 925 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 3: before teams were telling artists to speak up like I 926 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 3: was just doing it because I wanted to. 927 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 2: It's an uncomfortable position to be in right now. 928 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 3: Because I also know I have a responsibility to, like 929 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 3: I said, only bring love. And I think me speaking 930 00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 3: on certain things, or even if I feel like I'm 931 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 3: advocating for something, it's kind of creating more hate and 932 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 3: in chaos. 933 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 2: Than what I intended. So it's just like, sometimes you 934 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 2: just gotta shut that. 935 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 1: And that's hard. And that's hard too because you really 936 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: care about it, right, I think that's the challenge. It's 937 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 1: like you keep doing something because you really care about it, 938 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 1: that's why you started in the first place. But then 939 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: sometimes you're like, well, maybe it would be smarter for me, yeah, 940 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,760 Speaker 1: to not comment on it. Yeah, because it's safer. 941 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 2: And not just safer for me, but like safer for 942 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 2: the public. You know. 943 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 3: I don't want to create divisiveness. I really don't. There's 944 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 3: enough discourse. There's enough division. And I think that like 945 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 3: me doing something that I thought was like, you know, 946 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 3: for a good cause or like from the goodness of 947 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 3: my heart, if it's taken and creates negative discourse where 948 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,760 Speaker 3: people are going back and forth, I won't say nothing. 949 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 3: I won't say nothing at all. Don't don't worry about me. 950 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 3: You don't got to worry about me at all. Don't 951 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 3: you worry, honey? 952 00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 1: And before you would have that wouldn't have been your 953 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: real before. 954 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 3: No, because I feel like there was no opposition. I 955 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 3: feel like when I spoke up, the only opposition was 956 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 3: the opposition to the cause. I think now when I 957 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 3: speak up for something, there's opposition to me. It's like, ah, 958 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,720 Speaker 3: bad messenger, good right message, bad messenger. And I'm like, oh, 959 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 3: you know what, valid, absolutely valid as a as a 960 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 3: famous person or a celebrity right now, this is what 961 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 3: I signed up for. 962 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 2: And I and I'm like, so I'm not I'm not complaining. 963 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 2: I can't complain. 964 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,839 Speaker 3: I'm do it like I'm gonna just be quiet because 965 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 3: I understand that it's creating more confusion than solution, and 966 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 3: I only want I'm a solutionary. 967 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 2: I'm a solutionary. I like to bring solutions. 968 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 3: I like to only speak up if I know it's 969 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 3: gonna help in some way, and if it ain't helping, 970 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 3: zip it, zip. 971 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 1: It like that solutionary. Yeah, solution is not confusion. That 972 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: is definitely. I like that. And that's a great way 973 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: for all of us to think about stuff. In our 974 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: own personal life, whether it's public or not. It's like, 975 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: is me speaking creating more confusion or is it actually 976 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: getting us more clarity? Is it actually pushing us in 977 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: the right direction? Have you felt you were saying like, 978 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: obviously when you go through something like this, you got 979 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,399 Speaker 1: to become more careful about you were saying you don't 980 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,280 Speaker 1: want someone else to become an author of your journey. 981 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: It's like picking the people that are close to you 982 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,879 Speaker 1: becomes harder and harder and harder. Has has that been 983 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: like a real focus for you in surrounding yourself with 984 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 1: the right frequency and vibration And how do you do that? 985 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 3: I don't have any new people in my life anymore, 986 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 3: and I'm very careful about and honestly a lot of 987 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:43,720 Speaker 3: relationships that I had are gone. And it's not like bad. 988 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 3: It's just like I just I stopped chasing. 989 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 2: Because I how do I say this? How do I 990 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 2: say this? 991 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 3: I see the good in everyone, and I have seen 992 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 3: the good and some really kind of like broken people 993 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 3: who have been have done harmful things. 994 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:09,840 Speaker 2: But I always see the potential. 995 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 3: I always see the good, and it's like it's like 996 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 3: that inner child in me that's like oh my gosh, 997 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 3: I can help them, like, but they are good, and 998 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 3: I think that when they would do harmful things to me, 999 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 3: I had a sense of forgiveness and understanding and I 1000 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 3: would be like, I know that's not you, and so 1001 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 3: I would chase and pursue that relationship. And I'm not 1002 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,399 Speaker 3: talking about romance. I'm talking about people I worked with. 1003 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 3: I'm talking about friends who were also people I worked with. 1004 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 3: I was like, I was hiring my best friends, you know, 1005 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 3: and I would kind of see past it. And meanwhile, 1006 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 3: I was allowing something potentially nefarious or not good for 1007 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 3: me into my space. Right, So I realize, and I 1008 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 3: think people all over the world, if when you put 1009 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 3: up boundary that protects yourself and you stop chasing the 1010 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 3: people who continually hurt you, you'll find that pretty soon 1011 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,359 Speaker 3: they'll be gone and you'll be like, wait a minute. 1012 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 2: I was keeping this afloat the whole time. 1013 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 3: It was me, And so when I isolated a lot 1014 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 3: of people just sailed away. And I opened my eyes 1015 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 3: and was like, who's left? And the people that are 1016 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 3: left are you know, my best friend who I've known 1017 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 3: since like fourth grade? 1018 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1019 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:45,799 Speaker 3: And I love her, and I cherish her my boyfriend, 1020 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 3: you know, and I'm just like, wow, this is cool. 1021 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:52,399 Speaker 2: I don't need to. 1022 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 3: Pursue anything or anyone anymore. 1023 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 2: I'm full. 1024 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 3: And I think that comes from that isolation, and I 1025 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 3: think it comes from appreciating the people that you have 1026 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 3: and from like a business perspective, when you're friends with 1027 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 3: somebody and you hire them, it's just like it gets 1028 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 3: the power dynamic. It's up the relationship, it's up the 1029 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 3: social structure of the relationship, and it's something that you know, 1030 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,919 Speaker 3: I wanted to do when I was younger. I was like, yeah, 1031 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,919 Speaker 3: puts money in my friends pockets, like let's go, let's 1032 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 3: turn up, let's see the world, let's and it was, 1033 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 3: you know, something I loved. But then I also realize 1034 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,359 Speaker 3: it's not fair to them to be their boss and 1035 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 3: their friend and that will help keep things just clean. 1036 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 3: I just want and like I said, simple solutions. I 1037 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 3: don't want no more confusion ever again. I want my 1038 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 3: friends to be my friends, and I want my employees 1039 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 3: to be my employees. 1040 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is so real, and I appreciate how like 1041 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 1: real you're being about it and how direct it is, 1042 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 1: because I do think that it's a it's glorified to 1043 00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 1: be like we should be like a family and every 1044 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 1: should be really close. And I think that's like idealized. 1045 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: It's glorified, like that's what people talk about it. And 1046 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 1: I think recently a lot of people have been talking 1047 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 1: about how teams should not actually operate as families. They 1048 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 1: should operate as teams, like teams, like a sports team. Yes, 1049 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: there's a coach, there's players. The way they operate is 1050 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 1: like there's camaraderie, there's collaboration, but there's an energy of like, no, 1051 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 1: we're playing here to win. That's the goal of a 1052 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 1: team is to win. The goal of a family is 1053 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 1: not to win. The goal of a family to just 1054 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,439 Speaker 1: be safe and wait a minute, but we're at work 1055 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 1: to win and do stuff. We have results and targets. 1056 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,399 Speaker 1: Families don't have targets. Families don't have results. Families don't 1057 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 1: have goals. The goal of the family is just to 1058 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: stay together. And you can see how it plays on 1059 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: our minds. And I've had that too, Like I used 1060 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,399 Speaker 1: to think that teams should be family too, and there's 1061 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: a family energy and I'm like that's great, but it's 1062 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,479 Speaker 1: like there's just a different value system to a team 1063 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 1: and a family. And I think there's so much to 1064 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 1: be said for this that you only learn by going 1065 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: through it. You don't know this when you start, Like 1066 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,719 Speaker 1: I think about how much I've had learn moving into 1067 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,959 Speaker 1: this space for myself doing this for the last ten years. 1068 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,800 Speaker 1: It's like I didn't know. I've never built a team before. 1069 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,840 Speaker 1: And just because I'm good at one thing doesn't mean 1070 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 1: I know everything about everything. And I think there's a 1071 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:16,280 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on artists, creators, musicians to know about 1072 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 1: everything when your talent is kind of like here right, yes, 1073 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:25,240 Speaker 1: it's like your talent is music and creation, artistry and storytelling. 1074 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 3: And so you make everything music and creation and artistry 1075 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,240 Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, this should be a creative space 1076 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 3: and this should be lax, and everyone's like, no, man, 1077 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 3: this is a well oiled machine. If Lizo is the brand, 1078 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 3: that's a company, you know what I mean. It's like 1079 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 3: everybody has their their role and it's just like know 1080 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 3: your role and stay in your lane. 1081 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,840 Speaker 2: That's something that I've learned. 1082 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 3: It's I don't know, it's I'm not out of it, man, 1083 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 3: I'm still learning what's coming next. But I'm so grateful 1084 00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 3: to God because this experience and I'm not just talking 1085 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 3: about like the scandal, I'm talking about the last like 1086 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 3: two years of my life, the last like. 1087 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 2: All of this and has. 1088 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 3: Prepared me for I think, something so incredible that I 1089 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,400 Speaker 3: needed to be ready for that I needed to be 1090 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 3: this way for you know what I mean, Because I 1091 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 3: was holding on to a lot of toxicity. I really was, 1092 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 3: because that's just the kind of like and I'm not 1093 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 3: even talking about toxicity within myself. I mean like toxic 1094 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 3: systems and structures and people. I held on to them 1095 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 3: because I was just like, I'm a tourist, you know, 1096 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 3: I'm very loyal. I'm just like do the wheels fall off? 1097 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 3: And it's like, man, let go and flow. And I 1098 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 3: think that I had to learn that, Like God had 1099 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 3: tried to show me this so many ways. 1100 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 2: It was like knock me. 1101 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 1: Over the head. 1102 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, but that person was just mean 1103 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 2: knock me over the head. Yeah, but that was just 1104 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 2: a misunderstanding. Knockna be over the head. It was like, yeah, 1105 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,399 Speaker 2: wake up, wake up, let go. 1106 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 3: You know, when you can't let go, you hold on 1107 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 3: to things that weigh you down. And I'm not even 1108 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 3: trying to talk bad about nobody because I feel like. 1109 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:18,879 Speaker 2: People needed to let me go too. 1110 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,319 Speaker 3: Honestly, there are some relationships and dynamics that I know 1111 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,440 Speaker 3: that like I was keeping them back from greatness, do 1112 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,800 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, or not even less greatness, 1113 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 3: keeping them back from just like living, you know what 1114 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,959 Speaker 3: I mean, living for themselves. And it's not my job 1115 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 3: to think about that, but I will say, it's not 1116 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 3: just a it's not a one way street. 1117 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,799 Speaker 2: I'm not sitting up here being the victim and being 1118 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 2: like I had to do this for me. It's like, no, man, 1119 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 2: it's mutual. 1120 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,720 Speaker 3: There's somebody out there whose story is like, yeah, I 1121 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 3: had to let go, and now I'm flowing and things 1122 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 3: are coming to me that are meant for me, you know. 1123 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 3: And I'm not just holding onto this situation that's starting 1124 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 3: to woop my ass, you know. 1125 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 2: I'm aware of that. 1126 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. So it sounds like this was the headspace from 1127 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 1: which the music was created. 1128 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 1129 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1130 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 2: I was so angry. 1131 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,439 Speaker 3: I was like so like, I was so angry from 1132 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,279 Speaker 3: like October to January. I just have a lot of 1133 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,359 Speaker 3: angry songs and I was like, get it out, talk 1134 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,359 Speaker 3: yo shit. I had some songs that were very like 1135 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 3: that are very dark, you know, and there, and I 1136 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 3: left them on the album because I was like, I 1137 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,359 Speaker 3: just think that people deserve to know. And like it's 1138 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 3: songs about loss, like I lost my dog Puka twenty 1139 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 3: years you know. She was like a grandma to me, 1140 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 3: you know, and that was really hard. I wrote a 1141 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 3: song for her. And I have like songs about like 1142 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 3: just friendships that ended that really hurt me. 1143 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 2: And I was like leave it. 1144 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 1: You know. 1145 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 3: I had this one song I wrote and like I 1146 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 3: hadn't slept in like forty eight hours, and it was 1147 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 3: like during one of the worst like mental breakdowns I've 1148 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,280 Speaker 3: ever had in my life. Like I had the studio 1149 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,400 Speaker 3: scheduled the next day and I hadn't slept and I 1150 00:55:55,480 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 3: was like tears stained face and like musty clothes, like. 1151 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to the studio. I'm gonna go. And 1152 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 2: I went and I wrote this incredible song, and I'm 1153 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 2: like leave it. Leave it. 1154 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 3: You know, you owe yourself that you don't always have. 1155 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,320 Speaker 2: To write perfect, polished pop hits. 1156 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 3: You can have songs about your real experience that you 1157 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 3: didn't go in and edit on this album. But then 1158 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,359 Speaker 3: I wrote love in Real Life in like February, and 1159 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 3: I was like, huh. I was like, this feels good, 1160 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 3: this feels familiar, and I started to realize my purpose. 1161 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 2: My purpose, like I said, is. 1162 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 3: To turn this pain into champagne and help other people 1163 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 3: through it. I can't just sit and be sad for 1164 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 3: twelve fifteen songs. I gotta give people something to step two, 1165 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,839 Speaker 3: something to march to, something to perk themselves back up. 1166 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 3: I didn't do it because I forced myself to. I 1167 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 3: did it because that was just the place I was 1168 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,719 Speaker 3: at now. I had written so many sad songs, so 1169 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,880 Speaker 3: many mad songs, so many wrong songs, that like, I 1170 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,760 Speaker 3: could finally focus on what's right and what feeds my soul. 1171 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 1: And so some of those songs made it onto the album. 1172 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 1: Some of them didn't. Some of them are just a 1173 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 1: lot of them didn't. 1174 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 2: A lot of them. I'm like, oh, like, you'll never 1175 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 2: hear this one, never hear the light of day. 1176 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 1: But you still had to make it to let go 1177 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 1: of that emotion, that feeling. There was a part of 1178 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 1: it that allowed you to shed certain things you were carrying. 1179 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 2: And that's one thing I will tell any artist. It's like, 1180 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 2: make the song. 1181 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 3: It's not like once you record it, it's gonna go 1182 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 3: on the radio tomorrow. It's not gonna be on DSP's 1183 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 3: at midnight. Write the song, say the lyrics, say the 1184 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 3: weird thing. People desperately want to hear the weird thing, 1185 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 3: and then write another song. And if you you know 1186 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, like that's part of them. 1187 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 2: How do I describe this? 1188 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:53,960 Speaker 3: I always say like there's some sort of stream of 1189 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:58,480 Speaker 3: creation going always, and ideas like are coming out like fish, 1190 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 3: it's so wild, and so you're always kind of like 1191 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,440 Speaker 3: when you sit down and cast your net to create, 1192 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 3: whether it's painting, whether it's writing, whether it's music, whatever, dance, 1193 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 3: you cast that line and whatever that fish is, you 1194 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 3: catch that fish, you pull it out, and that's it. 1195 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 2: You gotta pull the fish out. 1196 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 3: You can't be like, well, I caught the fish, but 1197 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,440 Speaker 3: I can't say that, or I caught the fish, but 1198 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 3: I don't like this genre of music. I can't make 1199 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 3: a classical twerku song. Yes, you can make the classical 1200 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 3: tork song. Pull the fish out and go fishing again, 1201 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:33,919 Speaker 3: cast your line again. 1202 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,160 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? What did they say? 1203 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 1: It's full of plenty fish in the see I love. 1204 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 1: What you said about how creativity is a stream and 1205 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 1: that's what the words stream is actually so beautiful because 1206 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 1: you're right that we're all pulling from the universe moments 1207 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 1: of creativity and mixed with our experience. It's almost like 1208 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,440 Speaker 1: one layer is the stream of creativity in the universe, 1209 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 1: and the other is the experience of real life of 1210 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 1: what we're going through. And great art is made when 1211 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,880 Speaker 1: those two things are moving in parallel. Yeah, And you're 1212 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 1: able to like connect the dots between the two, and 1213 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 1: it seems like that's what you've been trying to stream 1214 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,360 Speaker 1: and channel and put it together. How is your view 1215 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 1: on love changed through this process? Like when you look 1216 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 1: at the word love, now. 1217 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 3: I'm such a better lover now. I worked really hard, 1218 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,680 Speaker 3: and I can't remember. It was like twoenty seventeen. I 1219 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 3: was really deep in it, and I had like candles, 1220 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 3: and I was reading books, and I was trying to 1221 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:36,960 Speaker 3: understand what it means to be an unconditional lover because 1222 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:42,440 Speaker 3: love with conditions hurt really bad, really bad. And I 1223 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 3: was like, please, I want to learn how to be 1224 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 3: an unconditional lover. And once I had all the crystals 1225 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,479 Speaker 3: and all the candles and all the prayer and all 1226 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,640 Speaker 3: the reading, and I was like, I get it. 1227 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 2: I get unconditional love. 1228 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 3: I realized that, like, actually, as a human being, I'm 1229 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:06,640 Speaker 3: in unconditional we are, I think on a spirit level, vibrationally, 1230 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 3: we are unconditional love. And I think that is why 1231 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 3: it's hard to try to be an unconditional lever, because 1232 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,280 Speaker 3: it's not something that you can actively do. 1233 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 2: You just are. 1234 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 3: But when you tap back into your flesh, that's when 1235 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:26,360 Speaker 3: the conditions come right back in. And I found that 1236 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 3: when I choose to love and flow, that is the 1237 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 3: most unconditional part. When I love on a material level, 1238 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,120 Speaker 3: that's when the conditions started to come in and it 1239 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 3: gets painful and it gets petty and it gets weird. 1240 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 3: But every time I forget, because we're going to forget. 1241 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 2: We are human beings. 1242 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 3: We step back into the flesh every morning when we 1243 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 3: wake up, I have to go back to the flow. 1244 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 3: And I remind myself, I'm like, well, how would you 1245 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,880 Speaker 3: feel if they did that to you? You know, how 1246 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,920 Speaker 3: would you feel? What would you think? And I go oh, 1247 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,280 Speaker 3: and I empathize and I understand. And it's so much 1248 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 3: easier for me now to accept because I think love 1249 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 3: is acceptance, you know what I mean. Like, one of 1250 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 3: my favorite phrases to tell myself and others is just like, 1251 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 3: I love and accept you for who you are. I 1252 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 3: love and accept you for who you are. And sometimes 1253 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,080 Speaker 3: when people piss me off, I go I love and 1254 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 3: accept them for who they are. I love accept I 1255 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 3: have to remind myself that I do on a very 1256 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 3: sole level, on a vibrational level, I love them and 1257 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,360 Speaker 3: accept them for who they are. Once I get into 1258 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 3: the material level, you fed up my day, or why 1259 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 3: would you say that to me? 1260 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 2: Or why would you do this to. 1261 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 3: Me, it starts to get real conditional and painful and 1262 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:39,520 Speaker 3: pain body and hateful and drama and mess. I don't 1263 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 3: want no drama and I don't want no mess. I 1264 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,800 Speaker 3: really don't anymore. And honestly, I was addicted to it 1265 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:45,640 Speaker 3: for a long time. 1266 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:46,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 1267 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:51,520 Speaker 3: I love reality TV. I loved hearing gossip about others. 1268 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 3: I would be like, oh my gosh, what's the tea, 1269 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 3: what happened? 1270 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 2: What happened? 1271 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Like I was very spunky, you know 1272 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 3: what I mean, And I realized, oh that's like, you know, 1273 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 3: I see something online, I'm like, I go down the 1274 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:03,320 Speaker 3: rabbit hole. 1275 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:07,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, but what happened? Drama? And it's like, girl, 1276 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,240 Speaker 2: that is lowering your vibration. 1277 01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 3: And like I hate to even say lowering vibration because 1278 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 3: people don't think it's woo woo. It's like I'm literally 1279 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 3: lowering my waking state. By doing that, you're lowering yourself 1280 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,640 Speaker 3: and then you start to attract drama. Oh my god, 1281 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 3: when you jet, when you you are what you eat. 1282 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 3: When you eat drama, you attract mother drama. I was 1283 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,919 Speaker 3: so addicted to it, and I think, like now I'm 1284 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 3: a better lover. And what I understand about love is 1285 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 3: love is like there's no drama. It's like calm water. 1286 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 3: It's like peaceful water, because love is a flow state. Yeah, 1287 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,160 Speaker 3: you're at your best, you love it your best when 1288 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 3: you're just flowing. Don't try to understand it, don't try 1289 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,440 Speaker 3: to make it make sense, and don't try to like 1290 01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 3: find problems with it. 1291 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,080 Speaker 2: Just like love them, you know, and and be loved. 1292 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,440 Speaker 1: I love that flesh to flow. That's really good because 1293 01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:10,560 Speaker 1: it's so good. I love what you're saying because I 1294 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,360 Speaker 1: think about this often where we're like we're all like 1295 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,160 Speaker 1: be kinder to everyone and then the next thing you 1296 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 1: need is someone's comment section, which is like, why does 1297 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 1: a voice sound like that? What's up today? Like what's 1298 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:22,880 Speaker 1: up with his? You know? And I'm like, what a mean? 1299 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 1: Didn't we all just say we need to be kinder 1300 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 1: to us each other and kind of to ourselves and 1301 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 1: be like, oh, no, mental health is the most important 1302 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,000 Speaker 1: thing in society right now you look at a comment section, 1303 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, someone's mental health is being absolutely 1304 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 1: destroyed for things they can't even control, things that you 1305 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 1: don't even know why their voice sounds like that, or 1306 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,840 Speaker 1: why their weights like that, or why their health's like that, 1307 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,400 Speaker 1: Like you just have no context. And it's so fascinating 1308 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 1: to me that you see this complete quarrel and hypocrisy 1309 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:53,200 Speaker 1: of constant like just everything we're saying, we're finding it 1310 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 1: hard to live, Like it's hard to see in real life, 1311 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,880 Speaker 1: like what you just said, Like we all love reading 1312 01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,240 Speaker 1: about gossip about someone else's life. Else is dating scenario. 1313 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 1: But then if your friends are gossiping about your life, 1314 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:05,880 Speaker 1: you're like, can you believe it? They're spreading rumors about me? 1315 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,280 Speaker 1: And it's so interesting, right, it's and I think about 1316 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 1: it all the time because as soon as you think 1317 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,880 Speaker 1: you're free of it, if you're like, oh no, I 1318 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,600 Speaker 1: never gossip about anyone or whatever, and you just got 1319 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,080 Speaker 1: to take a beat and take a look at how 1320 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 1: you spoke about someone yesterday. And so we're, like you said, 1321 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,400 Speaker 1: we're all human. We're constantly trying to propagate and preach 1322 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,080 Speaker 1: the right thing to do, but we're all struggling in 1323 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 1: reality with actually doing it when it's hard. 1324 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 2: We are as kind to others as we are to ourselves. 1325 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,920 Speaker 3: I'm learning that. I'm learning the people who say the 1326 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:42,000 Speaker 3: meanest things to me and about me are going through it. 1327 01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,480 Speaker 3: They struggling too. How are you gonna be How are 1328 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,160 Speaker 3: you gonna be nice to me and say something nice 1329 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,200 Speaker 3: about me? When you talk down about yourself? And I 1330 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,800 Speaker 3: don't even mean like people who have low self esteem. 1331 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 3: I'm talking like, oh stupid, why did I do that? 1332 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,360 Speaker 3: I'm so stupid? Or like, oh I look bad, like 1333 01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 3: I don't like how I look, like, Oh I hate myself? 1334 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,320 Speaker 3: Like it's little things like that that you say over 1335 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:03,960 Speaker 3: and over and over and over in your body's. 1336 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 2: I bet you know. 1337 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,800 Speaker 3: And that's why I'm so I man, I'm telling you 1338 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 3: self love can save the world because you, because it 1339 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 3: starts with you self. Love could could make this world 1340 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,240 Speaker 3: a better loving place because when you're kind, you notice 1341 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 3: the people who are kind to themselves and love themselves, 1342 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,880 Speaker 3: they're they just you're like, oh, I like being around 1343 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,480 Speaker 3: You're so kind, You're so nice, Like why you're so 1344 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,440 Speaker 3: nice to me? It's like, well, because I'm nice to me, 1345 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:34,080 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But when I'm hard on myself, 1346 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 3: and when I'm striving for perfection, and when I'm beating 1347 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 3: myself up, and when i'm doing the most, I can't 1348 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 3: control how I treat other people or how I look 1349 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,080 Speaker 3: at other people, or what I think about other people. 1350 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 3: When I wasn't when I'm in the trenches, the trenches 1351 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,640 Speaker 3: I'm I'm the trenches are surrounding me now that I'm 1352 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,440 Speaker 3: kinder to myself. And that doesn't even mean like ooh, 1353 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,720 Speaker 3: I put on lotion every day and self care. I mean, like, 1354 01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 3: man like, the way I look at the world, the 1355 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:01,960 Speaker 3: way I view the world, the way I view myself 1356 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,480 Speaker 3: through the lens of the world is kinder, you. 1357 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:05,040 Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. 1358 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,520 Speaker 3: And I think if everyone, if everyone was a little 1359 01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,600 Speaker 3: kinder to themselves, I think we'd have less and less 1360 01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:11,880 Speaker 3: of the negativity in the world. 1361 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,400 Speaker 1: I agree. I think that's a beautiful way to put it. 1362 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,520 Speaker 1: It's that projection of our own insecurity and pain and 1363 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,520 Speaker 1: the conversation that's happening in our mind is going out 1364 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,080 Speaker 1: with as well. And I feel like it's harder, like 1365 01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,480 Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier, when you mean something to people, 1366 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,320 Speaker 1: because I feel like when you then change, people feel 1367 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,600 Speaker 1: like they're losing a friend. Right. It's like when you transform, 1368 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:36,560 Speaker 1: then people feel like, oh, but you used to be 1369 01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 1: the girl that what's the reality TV and talked about it. 1370 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,120 Speaker 1: Now you don't, I'm losing you. Oh you used to 1371 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,560 Speaker 1: be the person who who didn't do that and didn't 1372 01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 1: do that, and now you are, Like, I feel like 1373 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm losing you. Have you ever felt that way before? Like, 1374 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,920 Speaker 1: as you're transforming, as you're growing, as you're becoming the 1375 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,280 Speaker 1: person you want to be, that people can often also 1376 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,640 Speaker 1: feel like you're leaving them behind. People feel like they're 1377 01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:56,400 Speaker 1: grieving a friend. 1378 01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,840 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, yes I was. 1379 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,640 Speaker 3: We could talk about my personal life because on a 1380 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:07,120 Speaker 3: personal level, I do feel like there's just people who like, 1381 01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,000 Speaker 3: our relationship just grew apart because we just don't even 1382 01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:12,560 Speaker 3: relate on the same things anymore. 1383 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,600 Speaker 2: You know. I know a lot of people be like, oh, 1384 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 2: I grew out of that. It's like, it's not. 1385 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 3: Really you grew out of it. You just grew apart 1386 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:22,160 Speaker 3: from it. And that's fine. But I would say, on 1387 01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:29,000 Speaker 3: like a my public relationship, I'm very careful about what's 1388 01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:29,600 Speaker 3: happening with. 1389 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 2: Me right now. 1390 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,520 Speaker 3: Like I have been on an intentional weight release journey, 1391 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,520 Speaker 3: and I put it on the internet. I posted about 1392 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,720 Speaker 3: it like maybe a year and a half ago, and 1393 01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 3: I was like very clear that this time it's intentional. 1394 01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:48,600 Speaker 3: I've always been very like work athletic online, I work out, 1395 01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,560 Speaker 3: you know, I'm always like, you know, eating and showing 1396 01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 3: how I eat and like always trying to like eat healthy. 1397 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,760 Speaker 3: And I remember once I started becoming famous, like twenty eighteen, 1398 01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,680 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, I was and I was like a big girl, 1399 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,480 Speaker 3: and I was like, it's going to be on me 1400 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,600 Speaker 3: to show the world that big girls can also be healthy, 1401 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:10,120 Speaker 3: big girls can also have stamina, big girls can also 1402 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 3: be loved, big girls can also be sexy, etc. 1403 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:13,520 Speaker 1: Etc. 1404 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:18,920 Speaker 3: All the things that I stood for. And I told 1405 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,400 Speaker 3: people that I was going on an intentional weight release 1406 01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,000 Speaker 3: journey because I wanted to be transparent in that way 1407 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,360 Speaker 3: because I do feel like I have a relationship with 1408 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,200 Speaker 3: the public where it's like I am their friend, and 1409 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,360 Speaker 3: it is relatable, you know what I mean. 1410 01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,040 Speaker 2: It is relatable to struggle with your body. 1411 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,639 Speaker 3: So I put it out there, and I think over 1412 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:39,040 Speaker 3: the last few over the last like year and a half, 1413 01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,479 Speaker 3: as I've been doing it, my body has been changing 1414 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:42,280 Speaker 3: very slowly. 1415 01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:44,479 Speaker 2: But I don't think people were paying attention. 1416 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,519 Speaker 3: I would show different things like, oh, I showed my workouts, 1417 01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,240 Speaker 3: or I'd show like what I eat in a day, 1418 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,439 Speaker 3: or I would say I started off the year by 1419 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,240 Speaker 3: being like, hey, new year, knew me. Trends don't have 1420 01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,719 Speaker 3: to be toxic. Please be careful when you're posting about 1421 01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,000 Speaker 3: your January fitness goals because it can be very fat phobic. 1422 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:05,040 Speaker 3: Like I was still very like anti fat phobia on 1423 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,240 Speaker 3: this entire journey. But I think that, you know, we 1424 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 3: got to remember everybody not seeing your shit all the time, 1425 01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,400 Speaker 3: everybody not seeing every video you post. Everybody's not privy 1426 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,400 Speaker 3: to what you're going through. They're not with you every day. 1427 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,280 Speaker 3: So when I pop out on a red carpet or 1428 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,120 Speaker 3: when a video suddenly goes viral and my body's different. 1429 01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:23,799 Speaker 2: It appears like it was overnight. 1430 01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,640 Speaker 3: It appears sudden, and I think that was shocking to 1431 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:30,920 Speaker 3: a lot of people because now the headline is Lizo skinny, 1432 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,479 Speaker 3: which is a. 1433 01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,880 Speaker 2: Far cry from the truth because I'm not. I'm not. 1434 01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:39,120 Speaker 3: And even in my original video, I was like, when 1435 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:42,400 Speaker 3: I reach my weight release goal, I'm not going to 1436 01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,680 Speaker 3: be considered thin by any means, by any metric, by 1437 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 3: any BMI. I will still get trolled and talked about, 1438 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,519 Speaker 3: and the fat jokes will still be there, but I'll 1439 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 3: be happy. 1440 01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 2: And I said that because I meant it, and here 1441 01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,639 Speaker 2: I am, and I was like, how did y'all? How 1442 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:00,920 Speaker 2: are y'all? How? 1443 01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,400 Speaker 3: Where's the disconnect? But I think the disconnect is communication. 1444 01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,920 Speaker 3: I've been so transparent, so if anyone wanted to look 1445 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 3: at my paper trail, it's there. But I also know 1446 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:15,679 Speaker 3: that they're not going to and my responsibility, as someone 1447 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,760 Speaker 3: who has this relationship with the public and they have 1448 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,760 Speaker 3: it with me, is to continue. 1449 01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:22,920 Speaker 2: I'm not going to stop and get defensive and be 1450 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:24,920 Speaker 2: like God I did for a second. I was like, 1451 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,600 Speaker 2: I'm not skinny. Why are y'all saying that? 1452 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:27,000 Speaker 1: You know? 1453 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,840 Speaker 3: And that kind of baffled me because it's just like 1454 01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,000 Speaker 3: if y'all knew how much I weighed, if y'all knew 1455 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,000 Speaker 3: what my body really looked like, and I was like, Oh, 1456 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,240 Speaker 3: just show them what your body looks like. 1457 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:37,960 Speaker 2: Just be real about it. 1458 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 3: Just be real about the body dysmorphia that you're experiencing, 1459 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,559 Speaker 3: that you know now that you have released some weight 1460 01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,240 Speaker 3: that's kind of new to you, Like you know that 1461 01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:52,280 Speaker 3: is also like it's strangely inverse, like show them, just 1462 01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,120 Speaker 3: show them your journey more. Just continue to do it 1463 01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,960 Speaker 3: instead of being angry and defensive about it, be real 1464 01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,760 Speaker 3: about it because that's what you're from loves about you, 1465 01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,439 Speaker 3: and that's what you love about your friend, that you 1466 01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:04,880 Speaker 3: can be real. Yeah, you know, I'm still in it 1467 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,000 Speaker 3: because this is all very new, Like I think it's 1468 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,280 Speaker 3: now just starting to be like a point of conversation 1469 01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 3: and discourse, and I think my responsibility with that is 1470 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,800 Speaker 3: to make sure that it's still it's still me. 1471 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,000 Speaker 1: That's beautiful, that's beautiful the way you explained that I love. 1472 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,840 Speaker 1: First of all, I really appreciate the empathy that you 1473 01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,160 Speaker 1: have in the fact that everyone's not seeing everything, so 1474 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 1: it feels like overnight it feels like a shock, and 1475 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:29,880 Speaker 1: the fact that you even have the foresight to even 1476 01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,680 Speaker 1: think through that shows just how aware you are. But 1477 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,160 Speaker 1: at the same time, I really appreciate how you're using 1478 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,599 Speaker 1: the word weight release and not loss. Yeah, and talk 1479 01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,360 Speaker 1: to us about that, because I think that's really important. 1480 01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:43,000 Speaker 1: It's such an interesting reframe and such an important reframe. 1481 01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,800 Speaker 3: Because the weight that is no longer on me is 1482 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:53,280 Speaker 3: not just fat or physical. I released so much to 1483 01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,720 Speaker 3: get to this point, and I think people can see that. 1484 01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:00,240 Speaker 3: And I don't want to describe anything as loss, you know, 1485 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,240 Speaker 3: I don't want to. I'm not experiencing any loss. I've 1486 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:07,559 Speaker 3: actually gained so much. I've gained like a sense of self. 1487 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:11,080 Speaker 3: I gain like a lifestyle that I actually really love, 1488 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,439 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I can maintain this, you know. I've 1489 01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:19,400 Speaker 3: gained new perspectives on like nutrition and the science behind 1490 01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,519 Speaker 3: cardio or weightlifting, Like it's exciting to me. 1491 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,919 Speaker 2: That's that virgo mood. I'm like, oh, this is interesting. 1492 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:25,759 Speaker 2: I love science. 1493 01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:30,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, I just think that, like, people aren't going 1494 01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 3: to understand this right now, but it's the most body 1495 01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:38,080 Speaker 3: positive way to experience what I'm going through. I don't 1496 01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,519 Speaker 3: want to use any negative terms weight loss is like, girl, 1497 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:45,800 Speaker 3: I lost weight, and it's so funny because my man, 1498 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,439 Speaker 3: he's so funny, Like he was the one who kind 1499 01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:49,880 Speaker 3: of like brought it to my attention at first. I 1500 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:51,960 Speaker 3: was like, cause at first I was like, I was like, 1501 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,320 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I lost five pounds. 1502 01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:54,200 Speaker 2: He was like, where did it go? 1503 01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:57,720 Speaker 3: I was like what? 1504 01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,200 Speaker 2: And I was sad at him. I was like, why 1505 01:12:59,240 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 2: would he say that? 1506 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,640 Speaker 3: He's like, where did it go? You know, I was like, oh, interesting. 1507 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:05,519 Speaker 3: You know, It's like, I don't think I want to 1508 01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,760 Speaker 3: lose anything. I think I want to win. I think 1509 01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,840 Speaker 3: I want to gain, and I think that, like, I 1510 01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:12,680 Speaker 3: want to be very intentional with the words that come 1511 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,360 Speaker 3: out of my mouth because there's young people who are 1512 01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:19,120 Speaker 3: watching me, and they're experiencing, you know, what I'm putting 1513 01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,800 Speaker 3: into the world, and they're applying it to their own 1514 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,040 Speaker 3: experience and their own life, just like I did when 1515 01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,240 Speaker 3: I was a kid. You know, I saw how the 1516 01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:31,759 Speaker 3: media treated people who gained and lost weight and how 1517 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,479 Speaker 3: that affected my brain chemistry and how it made me. 1518 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 3: I'm still not perfect, Like, you know, I'll still mess 1519 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 3: up when I'm talking about things, or I'll still I 1520 01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:44,479 Speaker 3: have some toxic you know, diet culture, things that come 1521 01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:46,040 Speaker 3: on my brain. I just swaowed away like a fly. 1522 01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, we're not doing that. We're not doing that, 1523 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:50,759 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, this is your body. 1524 01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,720 Speaker 3: You only get one of these. Enjoy her and let 1525 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,559 Speaker 3: her enjoy you. So I just want to be very 1526 01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,479 Speaker 3: careful with my words and intentional. And it's not for me, 1527 01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,280 Speaker 3: because if this was all for me, you know, I 1528 01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,960 Speaker 3: take this being a public figure very by heart. But 1529 01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,000 Speaker 3: if we were sitting alone, we was drinking Q, I'd 1530 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 3: be like, well, but it's like no, Like, be careful 1531 01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,479 Speaker 3: with your words because it could affect somebody in ways 1532 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:15,160 Speaker 3: you don't even know. 1533 01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:15,600 Speaker 2: Even me. 1534 01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,959 Speaker 3: Releasing the weight has affected people, and I take that seriously. 1535 01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 3: I take that responsibility, and so because of that, I 1536 01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,240 Speaker 3: want to transmute it into something that makes those people 1537 01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:29,280 Speaker 3: feel comfortable, you know, and feel like, Okay, let's afraid 1538 01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,240 Speaker 3: of it, you know what I mean, and understand it more. 1539 01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:36,280 Speaker 1: Liza, it has been an absolute joy talking to you. 1540 01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:39,519 Speaker 1: You're easy to talk to. You're so much fun. I 1541 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,200 Speaker 1: can tell that you've sat with everything you're saying for 1542 01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,639 Speaker 1: so long. Yeah, when I'm listening to you. I can 1543 01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:49,160 Speaker 1: hear the reflection in your voice. I can hear the like, yeah, 1544 01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,000 Speaker 1: the weight in what you're saying for yourself and for others. 1545 01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,439 Speaker 1: And I really respect that because that's actually the hardest part. 1546 01:14:55,640 --> 01:15:00,800 Speaker 1: The hardest part is sitting in no matter land or 1547 01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:04,479 Speaker 1: no person's land and just figuring it out. And I 1548 01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,840 Speaker 1: can tell that you've spent so much time there reflecting, 1549 01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:13,559 Speaker 1: doing the inner work, pushing, healing, questioning, taking responsibility, doing 1550 01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,800 Speaker 1: the shadow Like that's hard, and I just want to 1551 01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,639 Speaker 1: acknowledge that because I see you for that, I feel 1552 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,240 Speaker 1: it in your words, I hear it. It's very evident 1553 01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:25,240 Speaker 1: to me that you're someone who's really working on that. 1554 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,080 Speaker 1: That is the hardest work on the planet to do 1555 01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:29,599 Speaker 1: on an individual level. 1556 01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,519 Speaker 3: Like, don't nobody want to sit around thinking about how 1557 01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,400 Speaker 3: they picked up, you know, because then you'll just beat 1558 01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 3: yourself up. 1559 01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:40,479 Speaker 2: But I did it anyways, and I was like, I'm 1560 01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:41,040 Speaker 2: going to. 1561 01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:44,080 Speaker 3: Beat myself up until I end up becoming the best 1562 01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:45,000 Speaker 3: version of myself. 1563 01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:47,160 Speaker 2: And it was really hard. 1564 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,880 Speaker 3: And I only share it because I know that someone 1565 01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:54,080 Speaker 3: else might be going through it, Like go through it, 1566 01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,320 Speaker 3: don't try to like stop the journey, you know you 1567 01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,400 Speaker 3: do have to sit and reflect. You do have a 1568 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,920 Speaker 3: You are the only person in control of you. You 1569 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,000 Speaker 3: know what I mean, and you have to take responsibility 1570 01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,719 Speaker 3: for that. And I think that like it feels good 1571 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,680 Speaker 3: because then no one else can control your story. No 1572 01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,280 Speaker 3: one else can control your joy. I am the author 1573 01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:15,479 Speaker 3: of my story. 1574 01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,599 Speaker 1: I love it. We end every episode with a final five. 1575 01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,160 Speaker 1: These questions have to be answered in one word to 1576 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:25,479 Speaker 1: one sentence maximum each, So Liza, these are your final five. 1577 01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:27,160 Speaker 2: Very bad at this, by the way. Okay. 1578 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,720 Speaker 1: The first question is what is the best advice you've 1579 01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:30,719 Speaker 1: ever heard or received? 1580 01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:38,240 Speaker 2: Wow? Know who you are and whose you are? 1581 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,040 Speaker 1: Ooh, I have loved I've never heard that before. That's beautiful, 1582 01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,599 Speaker 1: all right. Question number two, what is the worst advice 1583 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,439 Speaker 1: you've ever heard or received? Good? 1584 01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:53,559 Speaker 2: Bitch, crash out? 1585 01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:59,679 Speaker 1: You said it to yourself. Oh yeah, that's funny. That's funny. 1586 01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,280 Speaker 1: Question number three this new music, this new album. What 1587 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:09,679 Speaker 1: is this chapter of your life called freedom? 1588 01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:10,840 Speaker 2: I feel very free? 1589 01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,080 Speaker 1: And that's what people feel when they listen to life. 1590 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 2: I sure hope so, because that's what I put in it. 1591 01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,760 Speaker 1: That's beautiful. A Question number four, what's the first thing 1592 01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:22,320 Speaker 1: you do every morning? And the last thing you do 1593 01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:22,800 Speaker 1: every night. 1594 01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:23,520 Speaker 2: Wow. 1595 01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:27,120 Speaker 3: The first thing I do every morning when I open 1596 01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:31,639 Speaker 3: my eyes is I have a wave of gratitude. It's 1597 01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,519 Speaker 3: happened every morning since January twenty twenty. I've woke up 1598 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,599 Speaker 3: and I had a wave of gratitude that almost brings 1599 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,120 Speaker 3: me to tears. I've never cried for like all of 1600 01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,040 Speaker 3: my life, and then in twenty twenty, I just start 1601 01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:45,000 Speaker 3: crying all the time. And then the last thing I do. 1602 01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,439 Speaker 3: I think this is gonna sound like I'm lying. I'm 1603 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:52,520 Speaker 3: so corny, but I and it's only because I have anxiety. 1604 01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:56,719 Speaker 3: I think about every person, and I think about my family. 1605 01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:01,080 Speaker 3: I think about the family members who aren't here, think 1606 01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:05,879 Speaker 3: about my dog Puka, my dad, and I send so corny. 1607 01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:07,200 Speaker 2: I know this doesn't sound real. 1608 01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:08,760 Speaker 3: It sounds like I'm only saying this because I talk 1609 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,320 Speaker 3: to you, But I literally I send like there's like 1610 01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,479 Speaker 3: these weird color points that come out of me in 1611 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:15,240 Speaker 3: my mind. 1612 01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,080 Speaker 2: And I and they always go to a different person 1613 01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:17,479 Speaker 2: every time. 1614 01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,280 Speaker 3: It's like a different color to a different person, and 1615 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,920 Speaker 3: I think about them. I sent green to my brother, 1616 01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,080 Speaker 3: and I sent like orange to my sister, and I 1617 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,840 Speaker 3: sent red to my man, and I sent Violet and 1618 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,840 Speaker 3: White to my father, and I sent Blue to my mother, 1619 01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,600 Speaker 3: and it was just it was so strange. But I 1620 01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,360 Speaker 3: think about them and I say, oh my gosh, I 1621 01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:37,879 Speaker 3: just pray. 1622 01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,439 Speaker 2: Over them real quick. I'm like, I pray. 1623 01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,280 Speaker 3: I actually don't even pray that they're okay. I thank 1624 01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,960 Speaker 3: God they're okay. I know you said one word, but 1625 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,920 Speaker 3: I go, thank you, beautiful. I'm like, thank you for 1626 01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,120 Speaker 3: making sure that my family and all my loved ones 1627 01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:51,040 Speaker 3: are safe and healthy. 1628 01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:53,840 Speaker 2: I swear because I have to. It's the only way 1629 01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:54,519 Speaker 2: I can go to sleep. 1630 01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:58,160 Speaker 1: That's beautiful. I believe you. I believe that was very 1631 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:04,760 Speaker 1: depth Jesus in it to make it. That's amazing. Fifth 1632 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:06,679 Speaker 1: and final question. We asked this to every guest who's 1633 01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:08,720 Speaker 1: ever been on the show. The question is, if you 1634 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,200 Speaker 1: could create one law that everyone in the world had 1635 01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:12,599 Speaker 1: to follow, what would it be? 1636 01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:20,280 Speaker 2: Whoa whoa whoa whoa? Actually I just heard about this. 1637 01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,000 Speaker 2: I forget the name of the law. 1638 01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:28,000 Speaker 3: But it's if you like, think about the world and 1639 01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:31,200 Speaker 3: you're not in it yet, and you don't know how 1640 01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,400 Speaker 3: you're going to be born, you don't know you know 1641 01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,640 Speaker 3: what color you're going to be born, what country you're 1642 01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,799 Speaker 3: going to be born in You don't. It's a lottery. 1643 01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,479 Speaker 3: How would you design that world not knowing how you 1644 01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:44,000 Speaker 3: would be born in it? So that everybody can live happily? 1645 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,559 Speaker 3: And that's how that's how you move through the world. 1646 01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,880 Speaker 1: That is so good. I love that. I've never heard 1647 01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:51,320 Speaker 1: that before. 1648 01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,759 Speaker 3: That's it, that's that's the rule. Design this world, build 1649 01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:57,559 Speaker 3: this world, live in this world. As if you don't 1650 01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,400 Speaker 3: know what privileges you'll be owed you, I don't know 1651 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:02,240 Speaker 3: how you are going to come into it, what cultures 1652 01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,200 Speaker 3: are going to be a part of so that everyone 1653 01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,360 Speaker 3: can benefit and everyone can live happily and freely. 1654 01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:09,080 Speaker 2: How would you design it? 1655 01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,799 Speaker 1: I love that is amazing. We never had that answer. Yeah, 1656 01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,560 Speaker 1: that is a brilliant brilliant. 1657 01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,320 Speaker 2: And the tea is it's the way God designed it. 1658 01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,480 Speaker 3: But you know, we came in here, we added our biases, 1659 01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,000 Speaker 3: we put our biases up in this bitch. 1660 01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,880 Speaker 1: Liza, you are so much fun. You are such a 1661 01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,640 Speaker 1: bright spug and such a brilliant soul. Like honestly, your 1662 01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,960 Speaker 1: energy is infectious. And I want to thank you for 1663 01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,839 Speaker 1: trusting me with just being so open, so vulnerable, so 1664 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,120 Speaker 1: so thoughtful, and everything you shared and I know that 1665 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,360 Speaker 1: anyone who listens to this episode is going to feel 1666 01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,439 Speaker 1: inspired in their own personal journey. I hopefully feel a 1667 01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,519 Speaker 1: lot more closer to you, and I can't wait for 1668 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,960 Speaker 1: them to listen to this new album. I cannot wait 1669 01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:49,639 Speaker 1: and love in real life. I hope everyone goes listens 1670 01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,920 Speaker 1: and still bad It is already my favorite. I loving it, 1671 01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:56,040 Speaker 1: so thank you so much for being here, So grateful, 1672 01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:57,760 Speaker 1: genuinely grateful to understand with you. 1673 01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,320 Speaker 2: Thank you so I really appreciate you. 1674 01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,320 Speaker 3: Thank you for the I don't take any of this 1675 01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:02,479 Speaker 3: for granted, So thank you. 1676 01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:07,760 Speaker 1: If you love this episode, you'll really enjoy my episode 1677 01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:11,920 Speaker 1: with Selena Gomez on befriending your inner critic and how 1678 01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,400 Speaker 1: to speak to yourself with more compassion. 1679 01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:18,519 Speaker 2: My fears are only going to continue to show me 1680 01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:19,720 Speaker 2: what I'm capable of. 1681 01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,559 Speaker 1: The more that I face my fears, the more that 1682 01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:25,760 Speaker 1: I feel I'm gaining strength, I'm gaining wisdom, and I 1683 01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:27,280 Speaker 1: just want to keep doing that.