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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory.

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Speaker 1: I'm Chandler Rome, joined by Tyler Stafford, and I am

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Speaker 1: coming to you from Sacramento, California because I had to

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Speaker 1: go out of Houston because everything that is happening in

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Speaker 1: Houston is awful. Fred Van Vliet's knee is in about

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Speaker 1: ten pieces, cooking the Rockets title chances. The Texans are

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Speaker 1: an unmitigated disaster, which leaves the Astros is probably like

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Speaker 1: the place of most solace in Houston sports, because they

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Speaker 1: do control their playoff destiny. They still can get into

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. But this weekend the Mariners came into Dike

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Speaker 1: and Park and I don't know if dominate is the

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Speaker 1: appropriate adjective. They man handled the Astros for three games.

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Speaker 1: They led for twenty six of the twenty seven innings

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Speaker 1: the team's played. The only other inning ended scoreless, so

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Speaker 1: the Astros did not lead in this series. They were

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Speaker 1: outscored seventeen to seven, but it felt like thirty seven

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Speaker 1: to seven. Tyler. That was as thorough a beat down

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Speaker 1: as I can remember in such a big series too.

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Speaker 1: Like usually, like in this era, we have seen the

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Speaker 1: Astros with their backs against the wall or when you

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Speaker 1: know stakes are high. We have seen them rise to

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Speaker 1: the occasion. We have seen them. You know, this is

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Speaker 1: when they thrive. They thrive in the big moments. They thrive,

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Speaker 1: you know, on the big stage. And they just wilted

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Speaker 1: this this weekend. You know, I'm not here questioning effort.

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Speaker 1: I think they played hard. I think you know they

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Speaker 1: It's not an effort. This is not an effort problem.

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Speaker 1: This is not you know, a coaching problem like this is.

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Speaker 1: This was just a better team in the Mariners that

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Speaker 1: came in for three games and demonstrated that they are

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Speaker 1: just up and down right now, a better team than

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Speaker 1: the Astros. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, first inning of the first game, Julio Rodriguez

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Speaker 2: hits a home run on a pitch that almost hit

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Speaker 2: him in the thigh, and it just went downhill from there.

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Speaker 2: So example of what you just talked about too, Like

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Speaker 2: it was a great pitch by Hunter Brown trying his best,

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Speaker 2: making a good pitch, and Julio was just better. And

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Speaker 2: the Mariners were just better all weekend, up and down

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Speaker 2: the lineup, pitching staff, everything was just better than the Astras.

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Speaker 2: You can't point to one thing and say, oh, if

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Speaker 2: this had been different, if you know, if this call

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Speaker 2: had gone this way or whatever. No, that was just

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Speaker 2: a better team the whole time, and you know it

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Speaker 2: was gonna hurt no matter what, because to get swept

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Speaker 2: is not fun at the end of the season here,

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Speaker 2: especially with the division online. But with the Tigers in

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Speaker 2: free fall, the Mariners now have a stranglehold on getting

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Speaker 2: a buye in the first round of the playoffs, which

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Speaker 2: the Astros very easily could have had if it had

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Speaker 2: gone the other way, you know, And now they're on

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Speaker 2: the outside looking in from the playoffs. So three games

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Speaker 2: can really swing a season, as you've seen, and I

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Speaker 2: don't I don't know there were much worse swings than

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Speaker 2: Adley Ritchman's home run in triple A that might be

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Speaker 2: the only worst swing I've seen.

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Speaker 1: Before we get in the maybe the nitty gritty and

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Speaker 1: just breaking this all down. Let's for those that aren't

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Speaker 1: paying attention or that maybe are listening to this, you know,

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Speaker 1: and just want to know kind of where everything stands

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Speaker 1: and what's going on. We're recording this on Monday. No

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Speaker 1: American League teams are playing tonight, so there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: no change heading into Tuesday's series opener and Sacramento against

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Speaker 1: the A's. For the Astros, the Astros as of this

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Speaker 1: recording on Monday, are out of the American League playoff picture.

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Speaker 1: They are technically tied with the Cleveland Guardians for the

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Speaker 1: third and final wildcard spot. However, the Guardians have the

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Speaker 1: tiebreaker because they won the season series against the Astros.

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Speaker 1: So if the season ended today, which it doesn't, but

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Speaker 1: if the season ended today, the Astros would not make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. The Asher's biggest problem, I think going forward

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Speaker 1: is that they don't own the tiebreaker over the Red Sox.

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Speaker 1: They don't own the tiebreaker over the Guardians, they don't

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Speaker 1: own the tiebreaker over the Tigers, who, as you just

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Speaker 1: easiest way for the Ashers to going to the playoffs

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Speaker 1: they gotta win. You know, they're playing six games against

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Speaker 1: two really bad teams in California this week. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I can give you a number. Winning all

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Speaker 1: six would certainly help. But I think if you go

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Speaker 1: the Astros currently have sixty five point seven odds to

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Speaker 1: fifty percent odds, But it is there's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: at some other scores things like that. The thing that

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Speaker 1: will help the Astros at TAD is that the Guardians

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Speaker 2: So again, then the the Red Sox and Tigers finished

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Speaker 2: this season playing each other. So yeah, I mean, if

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Speaker 2: for the Astros to get in. But again, they they

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Speaker 2: gotta win, which after that weekend I'm not sure you

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So now focusing back to what we saw against

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Speaker 1: the Mariners, it's pretty obvious. I think we may have

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Speaker 1: not just said it out loud on here, but I

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Speaker 1: think coming in, like we all kind of understood that

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Speaker 1: the Mariners had a better roster, right just like because

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Speaker 1: they're healthy. You know, you knew that the Ashers were

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Speaker 1: not gonna have Ordon Alvarez in the series. You knew

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Panya did not play on Sunday with a left

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Speaker 1: oblique issue. You knew Fromber had been struggling recently. You

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Speaker 1: just knew that the Mariners kind of up and down,

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Speaker 1: had a better roster than what the Ashers could have

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Speaker 1: run out there this weekend. But was there anything that

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Speaker 1: as to something that that really turned the tables in

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Speaker 2: I mean, not scoring against Kirby with Hunter Brown on

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Speaker 2: talking about it, but Fromer's just been awful, like just

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Speaker 2: straight up terrible for two months. I mean, in his

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Speaker 2: just I don't know, you just hope that, Okay, well

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Speaker 2: he's gonna figure it out, especially with the season on

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Speaker 2: the line here and you know, the Mariners coming into

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Speaker 2: all these things and just nothing. I mean, from from

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Speaker 2: biggest concern because again, even if you somehow do get

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Speaker 2: and right now, that is not something that you want

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Speaker 1: And I think anyone that you know may have thought

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Speaker 1: game one or two. I think Sunday may have ended

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Speaker 2: Know that's Jason Alexander. Like I think, I want to blame.

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Speaker 1: It's tough to blame.

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Speaker 2: If your season rides on whether or not Jason Alexander

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Speaker 2: can be a Game two starter, You've you've messed up

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just I mean on a personal level, like you

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Speaker 1: they had they were nine to one. In his past

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Speaker 1: there were a bunch of scouts that were in in

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Speaker 1: just to to scout both the Astros and the Mariners

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Speaker 1: you know, if it's not seventy or eighty command with him,

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Speaker 1: I think there were some people that were wondering if

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Speaker 1: he was tipping his pitches. Go look at his strange

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Speaker 1: Everything was you know, nothing was below the strike zone,

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Speaker 1: a Suarez homered in Game one. He homered off of

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Speaker 1: but he homered in Game one. Aun Suarez was hitting

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Speaker 1: demonstrates the the disparity between these two lineups that you know,

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Speaker 1: the Mariners can beat you in a lot of different ways.

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Speaker 1: You saw it really against Fromber Josh Naylor bunt single,

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Speaker 1: bunt bass hit infield single that Josey Altuve probably should

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Speaker 1: still a tough play to good Jrge Polanco. A Heno

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Speaker 1: Astros that can't hold runners. They ran wild on the

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Speaker 1: Like unless Jordan Alvarez can pull a Kirk Gibson and

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Speaker 1: maybe in a wild card series, Like the lineup they

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Speaker 1: have is a lineup they have, like they're not going

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Speaker 1: to get anyone else, Like this is just who they are.

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Speaker 1: And after one hundred and fifty seven is one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty seven games fifty eight I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: to wonder if what happened this weekend and just the

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Speaker 2: it's like what happened to him? Like he's a one

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Speaker 2: He leads the team in home runs. Like, if that's

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Speaker 2: anything on that, You're right, The roster is just what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And and I don't want to discount all injuries here,

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Speaker 1: It seems like this whole season has been kind of

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Speaker 1: a litmus test for you know Astras fans who you know,

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Speaker 1: and the Alcs. There's a clear path to it, and

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Speaker 1: You know, it was funny to read kind of the

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Speaker 1: They're, like I have said, add nauseum here, there are

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I mean, look at the American League.

432
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 2: The I still would argue there's not a team in

433
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 2: the American League that you walk into if you're the

434
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 2: Astros and think no shot in this series, like the

435
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 2: Astros match up fine, even the Mariners who just came

436
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: in and swept them. I still think if you had

437
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 2: a five game series, you'd feel pretty decent about your

438
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 2: chances against the Mariners in a playoff series. The Blue

439
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 2: Jays have the best record in the American League. Are

440
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 2: you really that scared of the Blue Jays, I don't

441
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 2: think so. I mean, they certainly can win a playoff series,

442
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: but there's no team that's just like a behemoth where

443
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: there's no point in caring, you know, Like the Astros

444
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 2: just have to get in. And yes, winning the division

445
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 2: feels really good. Having a first round by would have

446
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 2: felt very good. That honestly didn't even seem like a

447
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 2: possibility a week ago.

448
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: But now the.

449
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 2: Mariners control that destiny. But either way, like if they

450
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 2: had won the division and not had a first round

451
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 2: by it, they still would have been playing in the

452
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 2: wild card weekend series either way, like they're gonna end

453
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 2: up in the same spot if they make it in.

454
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: You know, it.

455
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: Doesn't really matter in the end, other than just when

456
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: you roll over against the team like you did against

457
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: the Mariners. You know, you just kind of have that

458
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: in the back of your head. But like you said,

459
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 2: they just have to get in. And look, I've watched

460
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: a lot of Astros baseball in my life. After they

461
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 2: lost in the World Series in two thousand and five,

462
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 2: it took them ten years to make it back to

463
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 2: the playoffs. So having one hundred and sixty two games

464
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: that matter is not like a thing that you're promised.

465
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 2: I have watched a lot of seasons where it was

466
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: over in July August, and the fact that the Astros

467
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: continue to be able to do this with new faces

468
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: every year, with the injuries that they had, all all

469
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: those types of things is incredibly impressive. And just as

470
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: someone who watches to be entertained like that is a

471
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: gift to have an entire season where it really matters

472
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: every game, and yeah, once to get in the playoffs,

473
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: anything can happen. So like you said that, the Astros

474
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: clubhouse is not in a spiral. They are not worried

475
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: about this. They're gonna go out there and try to

476
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 2: beat two really bad teams and make it into the playoffs.

477
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 2: Because again, just the way that the schedules work out.

478
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 2: You know, the three teams that are in front of

479
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: the Astros in the wild card really for if you

480
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 2: if you count the Tigers all play each other, so

481
00:25:54,960 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 2: you know there there's gonna be some attrition there. So

482
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 2: that I mean again like if the Ashers go four

483
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: and two, they should be able to make it, just

484
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: because of the way that the schedule works. Out where

485
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: these other teams are just playing each other and one

486
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: of them is going to fall off from the others.

487
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: And the Astros absolutely should be able to go four

488
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 2: and two against these two teams, and if they don't,

489
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 2: they don't really have anybody to blame but themselves. You've

490
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: got all the injuries that you want, you can say

491
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: all of that. But even the current roster is way

492
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 2: better than both of these two teams. They should be

493
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: able to do it. But baseball is a weird sport,

494
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 2: so we'll we'll see. But again, you're right, having having

495
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 2: a season where they're not just wake me up when

496
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: it's the Alcs, like, that's not normal. You know, you

497
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 2: don't you don't get to do that every year. The

498
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 2: Astros have had an insane run that you know, I

499
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: don't know that it will be seen like that again,

500
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: or certainly not anytime soon. With the way that you know,

501
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 2: free agent contracts work and you know, all those types

502
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: of things, can be very difficult for a team to

503
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 2: put together a run like the Astros did. So enjoy it,

504
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 2: you know, watch these next six games and see what happens.

505
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: I do think that leads into another question that I

506
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: thought about writing a I thought about writing it in

507
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: the story I wrote Monday, I kind of touched on

508
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: it didn't go as deep as I wanted to, but like,

509
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: did you view this weekend and did you view kind

510
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: of what the Mariners did this weekend as more of like,

511
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: this is a good team. This is a good team

512
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five that has made some nice deadline acquisitions,

513
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: that has a catcher that is having a season for

514
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: the Ages, that has Julio playing at peak form, and

515
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: like it is just a really good team that is

516
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 1: having a really good season, or did you view it

517
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: as maybe be something of a more like a changing

518
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: of the guard kind of like the Mariners are now

519
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: a force that this is not a one off, that

520
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: this is gonna be something that the Astros are gonna

521
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: have to contend with year and and you're out because

522
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: it is forgotten sometimes that the Mariners did build a

523
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: ten game American League West lead last year and you

524
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: know they blew it. The Astros played very well to

525
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: run them down and to help them blow it, But

526
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: you know, this is a Mariner's team that the last

527
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: two years has been sixteen and ten against the Astros

528
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: in their twenty six meetings. So I wonder was it

529
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: more did you view this as more of just a

530
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: good team having a great year that came in and

531
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: played as good as they can or is this kind

532
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 1: of a more longer term like man like the Al West.

533
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: They're not gonna say the guard is changing, but there's

534
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: a perennial contender now and this is gonna be a

535
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: two horse race now instead of four other teams chasing

536
00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: after one.

537
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think we would have said that

538
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: coming into this year, that you know, the the Mariners

539
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: are right there with the Astros. They have been for

540
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: the past couple of years. You know, I mean that's

541
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: pretty normal, you know. I mean that again, you don't

542
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: get to be in a division normally where just four

543
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: losers and you just beat up on them all the

544
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: time and you sleep walk your way to the playoffs

545
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: like the Astros have done. The Mariners are a good team,

546
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: and they have a young core that the Astros do

547
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: not have. That the Astros Corp is aging, and you know,

548
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: there's not anybody that you point to and go like, oh,

549
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: this is who you build around for the next decade.

550
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: No one has emerged as that for the Astros. I

551
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: mean Jeremy Jeremy Pania, but you know, they they did

552
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: not lock him up soon enough to assume that he

553
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: is going to be part of that core for this

554
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: foreseeable future. You know, Like, what's hulioll Rodory is? He's

555
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: still like twenty four, Like he's he feels like he

556
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: should be way older, but he's super young. And he

557
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: and cal Rawley both are both locked up till like

558
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: twenty thirty.

559
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: Yeah right, they both signed pretty team friendly extension of

560
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: cal Raley's is certainly now a team friendly extension, but

561
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: I mean they're both locked up till twenty thirty. Luis

562
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: Castillo is really the only high paid member of their rotation.

563
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: You know, their rotation is all in arbitration, so they're

564
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: pretty much all they're either pre arb or arbitration guys,

565
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: so they're pretty cost controlled. Same thing with Andres Munos,

566
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: their closer, Matt Brash is set up.

567
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 5: Man.

568
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: You know, you kind of start to look and this

569
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: is a team that and not like I think what

570
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: you allude to his perfect Like they've got a guy

571
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: in Triple A right now, Cold Emerson, who probably should

572
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: be in the big leagues, but like they're not going

573
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: to test him in September of a playoff of a

574
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: Pennant race. So like they've got the farm, they had

575
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: the farm system to go out and get a U

576
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: heney O Suarez and Josh Naylor at the deadline, and

577
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: we're very close to getting Johann Duryan from the Phillies

578
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: from the UH from who did he play for before

579
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: the Twins? Excuse me, it was the Mariners in the

580
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: Phillies were the last two teams for Duran and the

581
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: Phillies picked the UH. And they keep saying the Phillies

582
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: the Twins picked the Phillies package, so they could have

583
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: been even better. But and so that that's where it

584
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: gets to you look at from an organizational kind of

585
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: holistic standpoint where we just talked about like cose L

586
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: Tuve is not getting younger, Like he's still doing perfectly

587
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: fine things and he's still a great player in the

588
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: face of the franchise, but he's not getting any younger.

589
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: Nor is Carlos Correa, who is now under contract for

590
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: the next three years. Here. You know, cam Smith is

591
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: the guy that I think they thought and they hope

592
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,479
Speaker 1: they can be one of those pillar cores guys we

593
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: haven't seen him much in the second half, certainly not

594
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: in September. Like again, we all kind of thought that

595
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: was coming, but you would have liked to see a

596
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: little more consistency. You'd have liked to see in a

597
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: little more holding that those flashes of brilliance he's shown

598
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: throughout the season. You know, Jeremy Panias certainly is there.

599
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: But I mean, are they going to trade him next

600
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: year when they can't resign him like they did with

601
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker, Because they're in this position somewhat because, like

602
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier, they traded Kyle Tucker when you

603
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: didn't have to trade him, like you could have done

604
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: what you did for all the other free agents you

605
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: didn't sign and let him play this year out, give

606
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: it your best shot, and then move on. But you know,

607
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: like we said at the time, I understood where they

608
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: were coming from. I understood the rationale behind it. It

609
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,479
Speaker 1: certainly made sense, But sometimes you got to live with

610
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: the other side, the consequences of what can happen when

611
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,479
Speaker 1: you do that kind of stuff. So to me, it

612
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: feels like the Mariners probably organizationally, are in a better

613
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: spot going forward. They don't spend near the money the

614
00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: Astros spend. The Astros spend money, they don't spend it

615
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: very wisely. I think, as we have seen, they've got

616
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: a lot of money in a lot of different areas.

617
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: That is hamstringing them. Quite frankly, it is hamstrung them

618
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: and hamstrung them this year. It's may hamstring them into

619
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: the offseason. I'm not sure. But the Mariners are in

620
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: a better just place organizationally, but that sometimes doesn't matter.

621
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: It's always it's only about the major league product on

622
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: the field. And the one thing that the Ashers have

623
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: been a depth at. And you saw it a little

624
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: bit last night, even in a in a down game,

625
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: you know, aj Blueball comes in and gets nine outs

626
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: on thirty four pitches, looked outstanding. Zach Cole hit a

627
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: Logan Gilbert slider four hundred and forty five feet into

628
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: the right field bleachers. Like they're good at, they're good

629
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: at getting contributions from guys that aren't on prospect lists,

630
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: guys that are kind of underlooked and undervalued. They're good

631
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: at getting those guys to be major league contributors. The

632
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: one thing they're gonna need, they're gonna need some of

633
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: these guys to hit as more than just control, Like

634
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: they need them to be pivotal organizational foundation pieces, and

635
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: I just don't think they have that right now.

636
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 2: No, And the reason that they've been able to have

637
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: success with that is they were getting these contributors to

638
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 2: build around very high level prospects like Carlos Korea first

639
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: overall pick, Alex Bragman's second overall pick, Kyle Tucker fifth

640
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: overall pick, Like, that's what you need, and the Astros

641
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: have not drafted anywhere near that in a long time,

642
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: and that's why you're not seeing the same top level talent.

643
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: You know that that's how baseball is designed to work,

644
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 2: So you have these, you know, runs of people getting talent.

645
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: And just because you draft that high doesn't mean you're

646
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 2: always going to be good eventually. We've seen that with

647
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: just about every other team that's not the Astros that

648
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Speaker 2: has had.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, market Pele's first overall pick. Yeah, Rudy Aikin like yeah,

650
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Speaker 1: Like just because you have the number one overall pick,

651
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Speaker 1: does or you pick in the top five or ten,

652
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean like you're going to get a franchise altering player.

653
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Speaker 1: It's about picking the right guy. And it's also about

654
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Speaker 1: like it doesn't have to You don't have to pick

655
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Speaker 1: in the top half of the draft all the time

656
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Speaker 1: to find super like hundred Browns a fifth round pick,

657
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Speaker 1: and the Astros were picking in the twenties, like they

658
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 1: found like that, that's good scouting, and then that's good

659
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: player development when you get him in. The Astros are

660
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Speaker 1: good at player development, like they have a good player

661
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Speaker 1: development system infrastructure. They are good at finding unearthing these gems,

662
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Speaker 1: unearthing like small school guys working the middle late rounds

663
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Speaker 1: of the draft. I think where they have struggled. And

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Speaker 1: this is still a statistic that blows my mind, and

665
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Speaker 1: I think I've said it on the podcast. They do

666
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Speaker 1: not have a second round pick with a positive Major

667
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Speaker 1: League b war since Adrian Hauser in twenty eleven and

668
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Speaker 1: he accruded all with the Brewers. You can, like, a

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Speaker 1: first round pick is a first round pick. I don't

670
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Speaker 1: care if it's number one overall, number thirty one overall,

671
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Speaker 1: Like these are all guys that and that that are

672
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Speaker 1: considered the thirty best amateur baseball players in the country.

673
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Speaker 1: Like you gotta find, you gotta get the you got

674
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Speaker 1: to guy have the right guys there, You got to

675
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Speaker 1: right guys, bring them in and develop them, and that

676
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Speaker 1: has maybe been the place. And it's also not forget

677
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Speaker 1: they traded Drew Gilbert for Justin Verlander. You know, they

678
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Speaker 1: they've traded some of these first round picks. They've traded

679
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Speaker 1: some of these. Ryan Clifford was in that trade as well,

680
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: who's a very good prospect in the Mets system. They've

681
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: sacrificed sometimes prospects to win now. And it's all an

682
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Speaker 1: accumulation of stuff. But but it's not as if they're hopeless.

683
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Speaker 1: It's not as if, like they it takes a couple

684
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Speaker 1: of good draft picks and hopefully for them, I know

685
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Speaker 1: people in the organization are hoping, you know, Hunter Brown

686
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: finishes top three in the cy Young voting because that'll

687
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: get you another you know, high round pick. You remember

688
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: how we were all laughing about the PPI stuff in

689
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: spring training, Like it matters like this team needs as

690
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Speaker 1: many of those high round picks as it can get.

691
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Speaker 1: And more than that, they need to they need to hit.

692
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Speaker 2: On yeah one hundred because you know, like we said,

693
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Speaker 2: the just to give you an idea, So Kyle Raley

694
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Speaker 2: and Juliel Rodriguez are the only guys locked up past

695
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Speaker 2: twenty thirty for the Mariners. They are twenty four and

696
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 2: twenty eight years old. The Astros have two guys locked

697
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Speaker 2: up past twenty thirty, and that is jose L. Tuvey

698
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: and Carlos Korea, who are thirty five and thirty years old.

699
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Speaker 2: So you know, those are going to be guys that

700
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Speaker 2: you know, are are going to be veteran presences, are

701
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: going to be important to have around. But that is

702
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: not a that is not a core that you build

703
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: your your roster around. You need new, young talent and

704
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: the Ashers haven't found that yet. But yeah, I mean

705
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Speaker 2: your original question was like, is it a changing of

706
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Speaker 2: the guard or whatever, Like, I don't think going into

707
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Speaker 2: next season it's clear cut one team is better than

708
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Speaker 2: the other. I think I would imagine the Mariners are

709
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Speaker 2: probably going to be projected to win a handful more

710
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Speaker 2: games than the Astros going into next season, but it's

711
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Speaker 2: not going to be anything outrageous, you know, like the

712
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Speaker 2: Astros are still going to be considered, you know, one

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Speaker 2: of the best teams in the AL West, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that changed based on a three game

715
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Speaker 2: series in September. But yeah, I mean, the the Mariners

716
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Speaker 2: are good. They're not going anywhere. The core that they

717
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Speaker 2: have now that makes them good is going to be

718
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Speaker 2: the same core they have for the next five plus years.

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Speaker 1: I will say this for those that follow this kind

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Speaker 1: they set the Astros win told right out around eighty six,

722
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Speaker 1: and they're eighty four and seventy two right now. So

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Speaker 1: presuming they win, assuming they go five hundred on this

724
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Speaker 1: road trip, they will exceed Vegas's preseason wins.

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Speaker 3: Suckers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll talk about a couple interesting decisions that were

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Speaker 1: So it felt kind of redundant when I was writing

752
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: this weekend because each one of these games that they

753
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: played against the Mariners were technically the biggest game of

754
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Speaker 1: the season, so like everything was prefaced with like during

755
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Speaker 1: their biggest game of the season, blah blah blah. But

756
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Speaker 1: still I found it, and I'm sure you did too.

757
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 1: I'm sure you found it interesting that Christian Walker did

758
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: not start at first base on Saturday in what was

759
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Speaker 1: their biggest game of the season. You know, Joe Aspata

760
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: kind of downplayed it, said He just wanted to get

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00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: another lefty bat in the lineup. Wanted you know, Victor

762
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: Carrattini switch hitter against George Kirby that night. Wanted some

763
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Speaker 1: more balance, you know, lineups, especially right handed. George Kirby's

764
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Speaker 1: very good against right handed hitters. Christian Walker did start

765
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Speaker 1: on Sunday. He came back. You know, Joe spottas said

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Speaker 1: he's been Christian Walker has been our first baseman and

767
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: will continue to be our first baseman. He started on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Still it didn't pass the smell test. I think the

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Speaker 1: fact that Christian Walker didn't start a game that with

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Speaker 1: that much of that much significance, with that much on

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Speaker 1: the line, and bear in mind with fromer Val does

772
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Speaker 1: on the mound, a ground ball connoisseur, without a guy

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Speaker 1: that has won the last two National League Gold Gloves

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Speaker 1: at first base, instead putting a backup catcher at first base.

775
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Speaker 1: I think that spoke volumes about where Christian Walker's at,

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Speaker 1: just maybe in terms of the organizational hierarchy, what they

777
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Speaker 1: sort of think of him, And I think it opened

778
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: up some pretty fair questions as to what his future

779
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: kind of holds here because as we've talked about with

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Speaker 1: Carlos Korea in the fold. Now, they're gonna need somewhere

781
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: to play Escoc Paradis because he's not going to play

782
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Speaker 1: third base. It'll be Carlos Correa's job. We have talked

783
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Speaker 1: about that Escoc Paradis does not profile well at second base.

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Speaker 1: There's there are very few people in the industry that

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Speaker 1: think he can handle second base. Defensively, first base is

786
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: probably the most ideal place to play him. Christian Walker's

787
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: under contract for two more years. They're gonna have some

788
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Speaker 1: interesting decisions to make this offseason, a lot of fascinating decisions,

789
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Speaker 1: and I think Saturday kind of accentuated that a lot

790
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Speaker 1: of them could start him with Christian Walker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and look.

792
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Speaker 2: That I do not want to disparage Christian Walker as

793
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: a person or you know, anything to that sort. Again,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's an effort issue anything like that.

795
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Speaker 2: But despite not even starting in that game, he had

796
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Speaker 2: arguably the worst at bat of that game, coming in

797
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: game on the line and actually going by when probabilia added.

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Speaker 2: Outside of Korea's uh double play, which I'm not going

799
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Speaker 2: to hold against him, his was technically the worst play

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Speaker 2: for the not talked about that was that was that

801
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: was crazy. But the two worst plays of that game

802
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: are by the two guys that we have talked about

803
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: all season long, and that was you get runners on

804
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Speaker 2: second and third with one out and the bottom of

805
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: the eighth inning down to all you gotta do is

806
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 2: hit a line drive to the outfield. Game is tied.

807
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 2: Anything can happen. Seasons back on all of that, and

808
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: the same two guys, Jiner Diaz and Christian Walker both

809
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 2: come up and strike out and just awful fashions, just

810
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 2: uncompetitive at bats with the season on the line. And again,

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Speaker 2: you can talk about injuries and roster construction and whatever

812
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: you want, but like, those were two guys that were

813
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Speaker 2: core pieces of your roster that you built this year

814
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Speaker 2: and both have just not performed, and you saw it

815
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Speaker 2: on Saturday that Yeah, I mean, anybody else coming up

816
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Speaker 2: those two spots, you know, if all you have to

817
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: do is make contact, And again, both of those guys

818
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: have done that throughout the year. I'm not saying that

819
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Speaker 2: they are not capable of doing it, but I do

820
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Speaker 2: think that it is fitting that the Astros' division titles

821
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Speaker 2: more or less ended in the bottom of the eighth

822
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Speaker 2: with both of those guys striking out swinging with the

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Speaker 2: tying runs on base.

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Speaker 1: I want to preface this with there were no good

825
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Speaker 1: options because Mauricio Dubon had been burned already. I believe

826
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Speaker 1: as a pench runner that would have been Omar Lopez

827
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Speaker 1: was managing the game at this point because Joe Spott

828
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Speaker 1: had gotten twice ejected. The second when he was confirmed

829
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Speaker 1: he got ejected. That was about as mad as I've

830
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 1: ever seen him in any capacity. But whatever, Omar Lopez

831
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Speaker 1: managing the game, I understand what his rationale was. Like,

832
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Speaker 1: they're looking for a homer there, like they're looking for

833
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: a ball in the gap, like you're looking to run

834
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Speaker 1: into a ball. Because it's late in the game, you

835
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 1: know they're probably going to use Muno's in the eighth

836
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Speaker 1: of the ninth inning, even though he had pitched two

837
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Speaker 1: days in a row, Like that's a big spot in

838
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: the game. They're they're looking for power, They're looking for

839
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Speaker 1: somebody run into a ball. Christian Walker's the most idea

840
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: of the of who was available. Christian Walker is probably

841
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: the most ideal person to do that. I think it

842
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: speaks volumes that Ramona Arius has not taken in at

843
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: that since September thirteenth, in any capacity really is a

844
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Speaker 1: the Dana Brown's trade. We'll have to do when the

845
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: season's over, we'll have to do a podcast about the

846
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: trade deadline, because that has turned into I don't even

847
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: think flop does it justice, even though Korey has been great.

848
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: But one was not a Dana Brown trade. It was

849
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Speaker 2: not though, Yeah, that one doesn't count, no.

850
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Speaker 1: But I understand the rationale. But given how badly Christian

851
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: Walker has struggled against velocity this year and fastballs, you

852
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: knew what was coming. It was going to be four

853
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: seemers at the top rail and try to catch up

854
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: to it. And he just and he couldn't and it

855
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 1: was Dan Wilson played it perfectly. And again this jives

856
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: in with the trade deadline too. Christian Walker pinch hit

857
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: for Hasue Sanchez. This is a guy that the Ashers acquired.

858
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: They gave up three prospects to acquire Hayesu Sanchez, and

859
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 1: he cannot face left handed pitching. Like I don't think

860
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: they thought. I think they were going to try to

861
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: hide him from most left handed pitching when they got him.

862
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: But I think in the back of their minds are like, hey,

863
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: you know, if he gets some confidence going and if

864
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: he's really producing, like we can we can leave him

865
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: out there against some lefties. And if we've got the

866
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: situation created, like you know, if it's a lower leverage

867
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: spot or something like, no, like they cannot hit him

868
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: against left handed against left handed pitching. So you were

869
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: left with you know, you had Ramona Aius on your bench,

870
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: You had Taylor Tremmell, who hits left hand, and so

871
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't going to be him. You had Burned Dubon.

872
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: Dubon is probably their best hitter against velocity, and in

873
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 1: that situation, you know, if I'm thinking about it, I'm

874
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 1: thinking about it as I need a ball and play.

875
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: I need I need something in play, make them make

876
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: a play, even if it's a ground out, even if

877
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: it's a flyout, like who knows, they could drop it whatever,

878
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: Like I need a ball and play. I think if

879
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: Dubon was available, I think he would have been the

880
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 1: go to. But again, there were no good options there,

881
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: and it just kind of accentuates like and I don't

882
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: want to keep making the comparison because I don't think

883
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: they're the same, and I know the stats look similar,

884
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: but it was the same conversation we were having about jose

885
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: O Brey, Like you can hit him seventh. The game's

886
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: gonna find you. You can you can bench him like

887
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: they would. They were a couple of times where they've

888
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: benched a bray you and they brought him in as

889
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: a pinch hitter and it didn't work. The game is

890
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: always going to find you. And you know, I thought

891
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,479
Speaker 1: you were spot on earlier when you were talking about

892
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: kind of the construction of the roster and kind of

893
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: who has performed and underperformed. There are two players on

894
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: this team that have taken at least six hundred played

895
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 1: appearances this season, and it's jose Al Tuove and Christian Walker.

896
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: And that is again, this is not a Christian Walker

897
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: specific problem. And also like let's also note Christian Walker

898
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: has been good since the All Star Break, Like if

899
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: you look at his numbers since the All Star Break,

900
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: they're not quite what they were in a full season

901
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: in his full season last year with the Diamondbacks, but

902
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: they're pretty close. Like, he's been better since the All

903
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: Star Break. He's got his the homers are up to

904
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: twenty three twenty four homers, but the strikeouts have just

905
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: grown exponentially. He's got the most strikeouts of any hitter

906
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: in baseball with runners on base, which has certainly not

907
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: helped since he's hitting clean up fifth or six a

908
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: lot of the time. For no other reason than they

909
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: have no other options. It's been a bad year. It's

910
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: been a like there is no sugarcoating it. It's been

911
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: a bad year. He does have a limited no trade

912
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: provision in his contract, which would allow him to block

913
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: trades to six teams. I don't know what six teams

914
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: those are, but it certainly seems like there's gonna be

915
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: conversations and because they got to get rid of it

916
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: in an infielder somewhere, because he's not Paradis needs somewhere

917
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: to play. I don't think they're gonna play him at

918
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: second base. I could be wrong about that. They could

919
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: tell him the minute this season ends, you're working all

920
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: off season at second base and we need you there,

921
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: and it could turn out to be fine. I don't know,

922
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: but it does feel like Christian Walker is in a

923
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: tenuous spot, especially if they're looking to get rid of

924
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: some money. You know, you've got Korea's contract coming on

925
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: of the books, you're gonna have a lot of r

926
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: raises to give your arbitration eligible guys. I don't think

927
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna find a team that's gonna take on Christian

928
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: Walker's whole contract, but it's certainly something that it spoke

929
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: volumes to me that he did not start Saturday's game.

930
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also pushed back on him being good since

931
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 2: he also break He's hit two thirty seven with a

932
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: seven forty four ops like, just just nowhere near good

933
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 2: enough at any point this season.

934
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 1: Really.

935
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: I mean you've had some games, you've had some series

936
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: where you're like, oh, that's why the Astros are paying

937
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 2: him twenty million dollars a year. But I mean there

938
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: there has not been any stretch that Christian Walker has

939
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: looked good, and certainly not twenty million dollars good. He

940
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: just he just hasn't And uh yeah, I mean they'll

941
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: have to figure that out in the off season. They've

942
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 2: got too many infielders and they'll I'll have to figure

943
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: out some way of moving stuff. And as we've seen,

944
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: Jim Crane doesn't mind burning money if he thinks it

945
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: improves the team, you know, significantly, like they're they're paying

946
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: Jose to bray you this year. You know, they'll they'll

947
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: they'll figure it out if if Jim Crane thinks he's

948
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: gonna get some upgrade somewhere or it makes the most

949
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 2: sense for his team. But yeah, just a failed experiment

950
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: all the way around. And uh, I don't know. You

951
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 2: hope that he has it in there somewhere, but.

952
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: I don't know.

953
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: I mean, there's just nothing that you can point to

954
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: this year that says, oh, they can unlock this in

955
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 2: him or you know, an he just again, like, if

956
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 2: you're not catching up the fastballs, you're not gonna get

957
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: better at that. As you get older, You're you're not

958
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: gonna get better at that next year. Like your your

959
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 2: swing's only gonna slow down. And that's already just been

960
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 2: a huge thing that that teams have exploited to great effect.

961
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 2: I might add, it has worked very well. And everybody

962
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 2: knows it's coming. Everybody watching the game knows it's coming.

963
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 2: Christian Walker knows it's coming. And it doesn't matter. He

964
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 2: can't hit a ninety five mile an hour fastball at

965
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 2: the top of the zone and every pitcher knows that.

966
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: And as long as they can do that, they're going

967
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 2: to get him out. And I don't see that changing.

968
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: Ever. You're saying an astro knows what pitch is coming.

969
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they could yell it at him, and I

970
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: don't think it would matter.

971
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: Oh man, well we should probably in this before I

972
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: get canceled, if I haven't already. Yeah. So, I mean,

973
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: if Christian Walker hits like four homers on this road trip,

974
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: then it would I don't know if it would save everything,

975
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: but it would certainly put him in better graces and

976
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: certainly like alter the conversation a little bit around him.

977
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: And the astros have to hope that that happens because

978
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: they will be limited again offensively. You don't know, Jeremy Paine.

979
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: You seem to indicate that his oblique was not a

980
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: huge deal. They were precautionary, they did an MRI. They're

981
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 1: gonna give it a couple of days. But again, obliques

982
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: are very tricky, Like you would think with six games

983
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: left in the season, it's all hands on deck and

984
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna push through some pain. But if he's not

985
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: able to fully rotate, and if he's not able to

986
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: be as effective as he can be at shortstop, especially

987
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: where he makes a lot of diving plates, a lot

988
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: of quick twitch stuff you do kind of wonder like

989
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: what would the efficacy be of playing if he's not

990
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: at full strength? But I guess we'll see jord and

991
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: Alvarez will not play against the A's, So they're gonna

992
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: need Christian Walker. They're gonna need what they have because,

993
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: as we've talked about, this is the roster they have.

994
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 1: Like maybe you call Zactazenzo up off his rehab assignment

995
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: to give you something, but there's nobody waiting in the

996
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: wings to come save this thing. It's gonna be the

997
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: twenty eight guys that are on this roster that traveled

998
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 1: to Sacramento on Sunday night and spent Monday's off day

999
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: here hoping to maybe disconnect a little bit from baseball,

1000
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: kind of clear their minds before the six the new

1001
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: biggest games of the season begin. Uh before we get

1002
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: out of here, Happy birthday to both Carlos Korea and

1003
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: Jeremy Pana today they share a birthday. Uh nor very

1004
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure they have. I'm sure they're going to go

1005
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 1: to like a pizza parlor in Sacramento, like maybe split

1006
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 1: a pizza, you know, I don't, maybe split something. Maybe

1007
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: they're both twenty one they can maybe you know, have

1008
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: a beverage. If they choose, I'm sure it'll be a

1009
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: nice quaint celebration that no one that. I'm sure it'll

1010
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: be very uh. I don't think they'll do it big

1011
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: or anything.

1012
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 2: Do you think Korea eats with the belt on that

1013
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 2: he wears in the dugout?

1014
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: I want to restaurants with it. I won't know if

1015
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: he wanted he eats with the nasal strip. M M.

1016
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: I think I think he may eat with the nasal strip.

1017
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 1: I don't.

1018
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 3: I don't think.

1019
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: I don't think the back belt makes an appearance, but

1020
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: I think he may eat with a nasal strip.

1021
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: He'll probably probably good for like fine food tasting. It's

1022
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 2: like the Somalia's they really get into it.

1023
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: I want to be a Somali ages so I and

1024
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: like spit into a bucket and it's socially acceptable. Have

1025
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: you ever seen have you ever seen when they do that?

1026
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: If NotI will like taste some wine and like you

1027
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: don't drink it. They just put it on their taste buds.

1028
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: They wish it around and they spit it into a bucket.

1029
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: Cool hey, because they don't want to get drunk and

1030
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: be they want like their palettes to be. It's something

1031
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: about I don't know, it's some weird crap that I heard,

1032
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: but yeah, they spit into a bucket. It's socially acceptable,

1033
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: so cool. I'm gonna that's my next life. I'm going

1034
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: to be a Alia so I can get away with

1035
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: spinning in a bucket. I work in a.

1036
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 2: Place where the floor of the dugout is just spit,

1037
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 2: so you'd probably be fine if you did it now.

1038
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: But the press box isn't it The press box doesn't

1039
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: yet the spin well, who knows, I could change that.

1040
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: We're in a minor league ballpark for the next three nights.

1041
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 3: So there's no rules everyone.

1042
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: It's just the same. Probably could get away with it

1043
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: from that minor league ballpark. The Astros will try to

1044
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: uh finish off there. I called it a plateauing playoff

1045
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: pursuit and my story this morning, so it's plateaued. We

1046
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: can certainly say that. But the only way to get

1047
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: it unplateaued is to beat DA's in three games this

1048
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: week in Sacramento. I will be here and we will

1049
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 1: come back and we'll talk about it when the series

1050
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: is over. And kind of where the Astros stand, But

1051
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 1: until then, you can follow me on x et Chandler

1052
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,720
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1053
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1055
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1062
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Speaker 1: back at some point this week to talk about where

1063
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: the astros stand in the muddled playoff picture. But until then,

1064
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: we'll see you soon.

1065
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 2: Both of the six seeds last year won their first

1066
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 2: playoff game playoff series.

1067
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 3: Bye