1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Aaron Manke's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and Grimm and Mild. Our world is full of 3 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: the unexplainable, and if history is an open book, all 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: of these amazing tales are right there on display, just 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: waiting for us to explore. Welcome to the Cabinet of Curiosities. 6 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: For most people, watching movies is an escape. It's easy 7 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: to forget your worries watching Luke Skywalker blow up The 8 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: Death Star or Lauren Bacall confess her love to Humphrey Bogart. 9 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: But for South Korean director Shing Sang oh and movie 10 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: star Choi yung e, the opposite was true. Films weren't 11 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: an escape. They were a prison, and their tailor was 12 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: future North Korean dictator Kim Jong il. In the nineteen sixties, 13 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: Shin and Choi were South Korea's it couple. Choi was 14 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: one of South Korea's biggest stars after the Korean War. 15 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: Her husband Shin was an acclaimed director who, along with Choi, 16 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: founded one of the largest film studios in Korea. From 17 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: the mid nineteen fifties to the nineteen seventies, they made 18 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: dozens of movies that defined Korean post war cinema. But 19 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: all was not perfect in paradise, and in the nineteen seventies, 20 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: Shin Studios was forced to shut down. In nineteen seventy six, 21 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: Shin and Choi's relationship fell apart as well, when Choi 22 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: discovered Shin had fathered two children with another woman. The 23 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: its couple decided to call it quits. By nineteen seventy eight, 24 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: Choi traveled to Hong Kong in the hopes that she 25 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: could direct a film there. It had been hard for 26 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: her to book rolls after the very public divorce, but 27 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: a Hong Kong film company had offered her a job. 28 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: When Choi arrived, however, she discovered it was a ruse. 29 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: She was forced onto a boat and taken away to 30 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: North Korea. News of Choi's disappearance drove Shin to fire 31 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: follow her to Hong Kong, and six months later, North 32 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: Korean operatives kidnapped him as well. He was imprisoned, with 33 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: his sentence eventually stretching to five years due to repeated 34 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: escape attempts. While Shin was languishing in prison, Choi was 35 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: ushered into the inner circle of King Jong Il, son 36 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: of North Korean dictator Kim Jong sung. She was taught 37 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: the government approved history of the country and was taken 38 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: to performances and parties by Kim. Shin was finally released 39 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: from prison in early nineteen eighty three, and at a 40 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: party in March of that year, the former couple were 41 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: reunited after five long years in captivity. They were finally 42 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 1: told the reason for their capture. Their host, Kim Jong Il, 43 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: wanted their help to make movies. Kim Jong il had 44 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: always been a film buff with a personal collection of 45 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: nearly fifteen thousand movies from around the world. When he 46 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: took over North Korea's propaganda department in the nineteen sixties, 47 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: he dreamed of making movies that would rival the ones 48 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: from the West, But after several attempts, it became clear 49 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: that North Korean actors and filmmaks, who had been cut 50 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: off from new ideas and technology in film for decades, 51 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: couldn't make his dreams come true. So he looked to 52 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: the South, and he kidnapped Choi and Shin. For the 53 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: next three years, Choi and Shin made films with Kim 54 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: Jong Ill. Many were adaptations of Korean myths and folk 55 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: tales or historical epics, all with a communist bent, of course, 56 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: and all making sure to paint the Kims as heroes 57 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: and saviors. But during their captivity, something unexpected happened. Choi 58 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 1: and Shin fell back in love. Choi was touched by Shin, 59 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: tracking her down to Hong Kong, and after years working 60 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: together under the pressure of a dictator, all her anger 61 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: towards him softened. The two remarried and waited patiently for 62 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: their chance to escape. Their opportunity finally came in nineteen 63 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: eighty six, when Choi and Shin traveled to Vienna to 64 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: secure funding for a film about Genghis Khan. Typically, Kim 65 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: Jong Ung would send them out of the country before 66 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: film festivals, but usually only one at a time, so 67 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: with both of them in Austria, they saw their chance, 68 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: and they took it. On March twelfth of nineteen eighty six, 69 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: Choi and Shin arrived at the Intercontinental Hotel to meet 70 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: with a journalist. When their North Korean bodyguards stepped out 71 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: of the room, the two made a break for it. 72 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: They ran out of the hotel, hailed a cab, and 73 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: jumped in. Choi and Shin took the taxi to the 74 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: US embassy and sprinted inside. Once there, they presented American 75 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: officials with secret recordings they made of Kim Jong ung, 76 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: in which he admitted to the kidnapping scheme and holding 77 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: them against their will. The Americans granted them asylum, and 78 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: after eight long years of captivity, they were finally free. 79 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: Shin and Choi ended up in Los Angeles, where Shin 80 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: produced several children's martial arts movies before moving back to 81 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: South Korea in nineteen ninety nine. After extensive interrogation of 82 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: the two kidnap filmmakers, the South Korean government cleared them 83 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: of any suspicion of willingly defecting to North Korea. The 84 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: two remained together until Shin's death in two thousand and six. 85 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: Choi later passed away in twenty eighteen. Choi and Shin 86 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: may have spent their lives making movies, but in a 87 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: real life plot twist, they staged a great escape that 88 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: would put any Hollywood thriller to shame. In today's world, 89 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: we have more sources of entertainment at our fingertips than 90 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: we know what to do with. With a few taps 91 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: on your phone, you can access hundreds of movies thousands 92 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: of hours of television and millions of songs. It would 93 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: take you over four years to watch everything on Netflix, 94 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: and over seventeen thousand years to get through all the 95 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: videos on YouTube. And for those of you who are curious, 96 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: if you listen to nothing but this podcast feed, it 97 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: would take you over one hundred hours to finish all 98 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: of the episodes. With so much content at our disposal, 99 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: it's easy to forget just how good we've got it. 100 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: As recently as the seventeenth century, people's entertainment options were 101 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: much more limited, not to mention expensive. If you wanted 102 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: to veg out by watching a show for a few hours, 103 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: you would need a stage, a director, a writer, and 104 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: a cast of actors. Feel like listening to some tunes, well, 105 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: then you'd better have a singer or a pianist on 106 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: hand to perform. And don't forget the variety and the 107 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: quality of the music will be limited by the performer's 108 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: knowledge and talent. With entertainment options so limited, having access 109 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: to skilled musicians became extremely important. In England, Queen Elizabeth 110 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: the First maintained a Royal children's choir which was ready 111 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: to perform whenever and wherever she desired. The master of 112 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: the choir, a guy named Nathaniel Giles, was charged with 113 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: scouting out new talent and to make sure that he 114 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: got the best singers around. He was given incredible power 115 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: is he Giles carried a warrant that allowed him to 116 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: force any child to join the choir. Whenever he wanted. 117 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: He could walk into a random church or theater in 118 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: the country, pick out the best singers, and decide that 119 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: they now worked for him. If the kid didn't want 120 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: to go, there was nothing they or their parents could 121 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: do about it. Now this seems unbelievable today, but it's 122 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: pretty consistent with Elizabethan society. Children were viewed as a 123 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 1: kind of property. They were owned by their parents until 124 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: they began an apprenticeship, at which point they then belonged 125 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: to their master. Oh and their training and education weren't 126 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: for their own benefit either. That was simply a way 127 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: to make the kids more useful so that the adults 128 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: could ring every last drop of value out of them. 129 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: At the same time, the British monarch was a symbolic 130 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: parent figure to her subjects. It was everyone's duty to 131 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: serve the crown in whatever way they could, so most 132 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: people wouldn't have found it particularly odd when talented kids 133 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: were forced to sing for the queen, but it was 134 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: still a lot of power for one man to hold, 135 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: and Nathaniel Giles wasn't above using it for his own ends. 136 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: He and a theater producer named Henry Evans routinely abducted 137 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: children right off the streets, then refused to return them 138 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: until their parents bought them back. They were effectively holding 139 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: the children ransom, and while this was a clear abuse 140 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: of power, it was also technically legal. They got away 141 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: with it for years and may never have been questioned 142 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: about it at all had they not taken the wrong child. 143 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: You see, in sixteen hundred, Giles and Evans kidnapped a 144 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: thirteen year old named Thomas Clifton while he was on 145 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: his way home from school. As it turns out, the boys' 146 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,679 Speaker 1: parents were nobles and extremely litigious ones at that. After 147 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: getting their son back, they took Giles to court. Their 148 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: argument wasn't that the choir master had broken the law 149 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: by kidnapping their son. Everyone agreed that that was within 150 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: his rights. The problem was that Thomas couldn't sing to 151 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: save his life. As a result, he'd been made to 152 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: act in stage plays which were seen as less respectable 153 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: than singing, and Thomas's parents won the case. The producer, 154 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: Henry Evans was forced to resign and he was run 155 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: out of town, but Giles got off without so much 156 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: as a reprimand he continued to work as the master 157 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: of the Royal Choir, although his warrant was adjusted to 158 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: clarify that the children he took could not be employed 159 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: as comedians or actors. Singing was the Queen's entertainment of choice, 160 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: and she deserved to hear only the most angelic of voices. 161 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: And apparently if it took a devil of a choir 162 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: master to make that happen, it was still worth it 163 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: so long as the music never stopped. 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