Speaker 1: In the.
Speaker 2: Harry your former raters running back field for the Kansas
Speaker 2: City Chiefs and the White Socks Royals Royals. He's the
Speaker 2: only player to be a Pro Bowler and an MLB
Speaker 2: All Star in the same season, a Heisman Trophy winner,
Speaker 2: one of the greatest running backs in collegiate football history,
Speaker 2: and arguably he gonna say, who you arguing with the
Speaker 2: greatest athlete of all time? Is anybody really know your
Speaker 2: first names?
Speaker 3: Both? Pleasure?
Speaker 2: How you doing, bro, I'm doing great? And as far
Speaker 2: as my name is in turn. Now, you all don't
Speaker 2: know this because you're too young, but your parents will.
Speaker 2: Back in the sixties, now, there was a TV doctor.
Speaker 2: His name was doctor Ben Casey. He had a TV
Speaker 2: show like Marcus welbt. Okay, his name was doctor vin Casey.
Speaker 2: His real name was Vincent Edward. I think my mama
Speaker 2: had a crush on that, so she named me Vincent.
Speaker 2: So she named me Vincent Network. So that's my name, Vincent.
Speaker 3: Okay? Like that?
Speaker 2: Do you ever think it's like, you know what, how
Speaker 2: good you could have been if you say, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna play baseball, or if I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: play football, or was your dream always to play both
Speaker 2: sports at the highest level. I've never thought like that
Speaker 2: for the simple reason it was in the cards for
Speaker 2: me to do exactly what I did.
Speaker 3: Period.
Speaker 2: It was in the cards for me to get into
Speaker 2: July thirteen, nineteen nine. It was in the cars. It
Speaker 2: was in the cards for me now to be in
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame, or to go to the Baseball
Speaker 2: Hall of US or go to Baseball Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: and the football rough It wasn't meant.
Speaker 3: It wasn't meant for me.
Speaker 2: To be if they had it back then, as far
Speaker 2: as the NIL is concerned, I wouldn't have to take
Speaker 2: a pay cut to go to the NFL and and Baseball.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't meant. But I'm happy with the way.
Speaker 2: Like try I say this, and I'm not a very
Speaker 2: really real religious man, but God put speed bumps in
Speaker 2: everybody's road to life, and it's up to us to
Speaker 2: slow down, get over that speed bump, move on down
Speaker 2: the road. Because if you don't slow down when you're
Speaker 2: going on this speed bump, what's gonna happens your bottom
Speaker 2: of your five Yes, So the thing that I did
Speaker 2: slowed down, got over, and I didn't worry about my injuries.
Speaker 2: I didn't worry about my help right cause, and man's
Speaker 2: Tair's got a bigger plan for us. And now, and
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, I'm four months cancer free.
Speaker 3: Really, what type of cancer did you have?
Speaker 2: You don't mind us asking my eurog just found two
Speaker 2: cancer spots all my process. Now they say now, they said, well,
Speaker 2: we could treat it. I said, no, hell you can't.
Speaker 2: You gonna take this mother fucker out. I said, I'm
Speaker 2: sixty three years old, right yeah, But I said, but.
Speaker 3: I didn't live my life. Wod I didn't have been
Speaker 3: in the song.
Speaker 2: And the first thing that men think, because I know
Speaker 2: the first thing y'all think, prostatect he got run next year.
Speaker 3: My sex life fold man, that's bood, that's bo, that's bull.
Speaker 1: You look you were taking them rospars then no, no, no,
Speaker 1: But there's medication out there for you, yes to where
Speaker 1: if you want to be intimate with your girl, which
Speaker 1: why you but.
Speaker 3: You can't can't.
Speaker 2: After drop of a hat, I am after drop. But
Speaker 2: that's all having knowledge about this. But we as men,
Speaker 2: I tell you what. Women can go on TV and
Speaker 2: they could talk about they've had a hysteretic man they've
Speaker 2: had cervical cancer, they've had breast cancer. They talk about everything.
Speaker 2: Knee kids, they sit up and talk about it and
Speaker 2: have a glass of wine. But we as men, yeah, shoot,
Speaker 2: we ain't talking about yes, sir, we ain't talking about
Speaker 2: if we wearing it depends, we ain't talking about nothing
Speaker 2: of that. If we ain't talking about, Hey, my doctor
Speaker 2: found out that I got a lump in my bread,
Speaker 2: but then I got breast counsel. We don't talk about
Speaker 2: that because it's taboo. We got to be the alpha male.
Speaker 2: We gotta be the alpha dog, the strong person that's
Speaker 2: gonna sit up and be on top of everything. We
Speaker 2: can't let somebody know that we got ship bottles. So
Speaker 2: with us we keep all that ball. Then the only
Speaker 2: time we talk about it is we were behind closed
Speaker 2: or with that one doctor.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Sometimes we don't go home and tell our family, do no,
Speaker 2: because our family looked us as being the leader, the
Speaker 2: top dog, and we want them to continue to do that.
Speaker 2: But see, after my surgery, first thing I did call
Speaker 2: buddets that I played that I went to high school with,
Speaker 2: got on a conference call with all my baseball teams.
Speaker 2: Talk to my teammates from the football team. Talk to
Speaker 2: guys that I played against, I played with in the
Speaker 2: pros on both baseball and football. Coke and check Man. Yes,
Speaker 2: they had big ones. The thing that we could go
Speaker 2: out here and tackle a bear and knock him out,
Speaker 2: but we're afraid to go have that conversation with the
Speaker 2: doctor because we're afraid of what he's gonna turns.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes I don't. I don't want to know. See,
Speaker 3: And that's it.
Speaker 2: You're hurting yourself and you're being selfish when it comes.
Speaker 3: To your family.
Speaker 2: You hurt yourself. Yep, you're hurting yourself. But in the
Speaker 2: thing that I realize is that shit on both jacks.
Speaker 2: If it could happen to me. Can you imagine now
Speaker 2: after my short you would not believe the number of
Speaker 2: X professional athletes have gone through what I just went through. Yep,
Speaker 2: nobody knows I had the same thing because I had it.
Speaker 2: I had dealt with it in twenty sixteen. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: but they caught it early. I had seat implant where
Speaker 2: they do the radioactive seeds like the size of right spellet.
Speaker 2: They put them in the UH and it emite it
Speaker 2: their radiation for twenty one days. I didn't have to
Speaker 2: have my remove. But now I have to say this.
Speaker 2: Having teas is one thing, but cancer is just like
Speaker 2: mother nature. Cancer is just like mother nature. Yep, they
Speaker 2: both undefeated. They both undefeated.
Speaker 4: You keep trying to keep it a bay as low
Speaker 4: as you can.
Speaker 2: But the thing about it, do you know what I know?
Speaker 3: Cause I said, doc and talk to my doctor my surgery.
Speaker 3: You know what I know?
Speaker 2: They've been because every six months, if you're looking over
Speaker 2: your shoulder, yep, you dreading going.
Speaker 3: Back to the doctor. Yeah, I'm gonna text the number.
Speaker 2: And you shouldn't go through that happened listen big because
Speaker 2: I have my first PSA test, my numbers zero.
Speaker 3: And before my surgains my number was over seven.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: See the thing about it is that you've worked. They
Speaker 2: have a gleasing score ye and the yep you have
Speaker 2: to combine and if you're over seven, you got to
Speaker 2: get something up absolutely, and mine was seven point one
Speaker 2: seven point two last three weeks ago. I got my
Speaker 2: PSA back and then we were road point zero one.
Speaker 2: So you get it taken care of. Yes, you don't
Speaker 2: have to work. You you don't. You're over your shoulder
Speaker 2: every five or six months. Both being one of did
Speaker 2: you realize how special you were when you were in
Speaker 2: high school? When you were in college, did you realize
Speaker 2: you were this special? I wouldn't call it special.
Speaker 3: You're special. But I enjoyed having.
Speaker 2: The parents of the other team sitting in the stand
Speaker 2: pissed off. Yeh, get that man off the field with
Speaker 2: our children. Yes, but I but I enjoyed that because
Speaker 2: we now a lot of people don't know in our
Speaker 2: back field, Yeah, there were two other backs that that
Speaker 2: was just as fast as me in high school, and
Speaker 2: it's dangerou as me. Our three backs and in the
Speaker 2: backfield we were to state four by one relay team
Speaker 2: for four years or Anne and I anchored the four
Speaker 2: ot so we got the tight end to be the
Speaker 2: second leg.
Speaker 4: Right, the tight end was moving like that.
Speaker 3: No, but he was six three six four hair hit
Speaker 3: he had a long shride.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, but we just had to fill in
Speaker 2: with somebody. You have to have to have four running.
Speaker 2: So yes, So even then I didn't see it as
Speaker 2: being special. I had the mentality that when I stepped
Speaker 2: on the field, but I stepped across that white line
Speaker 2: on the football field, or stepped across that chalk line,
Speaker 2: on the baseball field. In my mind, and and and this,
Speaker 2: and this is the way I thought, once I step
Speaker 2: across that line, I'm.
Speaker 3: The bad as the mother fuck out here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they know, and you got and you gotta
Speaker 2: prove to me there be bad at you better than me.
Speaker 2: And and that's just how things were. Our coach taught us,
Speaker 2: Coach died, coach bad die. Yeah, he taught us in college.
Speaker 2: But you step on that field, you opped up for
Speaker 2: one reason, to snatch.
Speaker 3: His son, to take his soul, make him want quick
Speaker 3: this poor the fourth quarter then, because the fourth quarter
Speaker 3: is when we're gonna turn up to heat.
Speaker 2: We gonna run with you for three right, and we
Speaker 2: may go forty points on you in that three quarter,
Speaker 2: But the fourth quarter you're gonna be looking towards sign
Speaker 2: out of trying to get the coach to take you out.
Speaker 2: Tell the story of why you went the Auburn as
Speaker 2: opposed to alabam because I've heard you tell the story before.
Speaker 2: But tell the story of why you went to Alburn
Speaker 2: as opposed to Alabama. I was an Alabama fan growing up,
Speaker 2: all right, because that's all we knew. Yeah, in Alabama
Speaker 2: it was bab Bryant, coach Bryant, and he was in
Speaker 2: the midst of all his natural championship, and so it
Speaker 2: wasn't so on. So when I I was ranked as
Speaker 2: one of the top ten running backs in the state
Speaker 2: and Tuscalos was only thirty minutes from my house. Yeah,
Speaker 2: album two hours and I didn't know where to hear
Speaker 2: album one. But I know they were the two biggest schools, right.
Speaker 2: And I come home one day from a baseball game,
Speaker 2: walk in the front door. The old white guy sitting
Speaker 2: at the table with my mom drank and talk and talk.
Speaker 2: It was their defensive coordinator. He and Donna Hue. I
Speaker 2: spoke when on the downstairs, Well lord, he came down
Speaker 2: to their vincent. My name's coach donal Hill. Coach Bryant
Speaker 2: would have come up to himself, but he had a
Speaker 2: family issue that he had to deal with, and so
Speaker 2: we talked and we were talking, and he was telling
Speaker 2: me how good Bama was and how good they're gonna be,
Speaker 2: and how old Alburn had beat Bama since.
Speaker 3: Nineteen seventy two. Wow, it's nineteen eighty two. And then
Speaker 3: he said this.
Speaker 2: Before he said that, he he said, look, we want
Speaker 2: you at Tulscaloosa. But personally, I don't think you'll get
Speaker 2: the opportunity to play until the end of your sophomore
Speaker 2: or the beginning of your junior sis.
Speaker 3: So he said, he said that are you in person?
Speaker 3: Shit man shot?
Speaker 2: And then he said this Alburn has a beat out
Speaker 2: Obama since nineteen seventy two, and they never So he said, well,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you finish doing your watching uniform for
Speaker 2: me because I know you got a game tomorrow. Benson,
Speaker 2: it was nice time to you. So I'm thinking, and
Speaker 2: I'm shaking his hand, but and I'm smiling. But what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, motherfucker, if you think I'm on sitting
Speaker 2: on your bench for ten years, you have to so
Speaker 2: by him saying, and they never will. I made sure
Speaker 2: my freshman year should I racked that over the top?
Speaker 2: I racked up two fifty six on it freshman year
Speaker 2: as the first with that, with that the boat over
Speaker 2: the top and that long run downside.
Speaker 4: Because it was it was that was fourthy, that was
Speaker 4: fourth and go.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They asked you exact they said, what what you want?
Speaker 2: He said, coach, give me that play over the top. No,
Speaker 2: we actually practiced. We actually practiced that play where we're
Speaker 2: doing the doing doing the three on three j yeah,
Speaker 2: and the defense was ten.
Speaker 4: I ass up.
Speaker 3: We couldn't score.
Speaker 2: So I went on and said, Randy Cammell, what I
Speaker 2: caught it back and I called him warm warmed because
Speaker 2: he wasn't un about even with his pants on, ran
Speaker 2: about bucket with all the.
Speaker 3: Pants on, and he said, may.
Speaker 2: I said, look, man, I was seven foot high jump
Speaker 2: at in high school, which I want. I said, let's
Speaker 2: wanna play probably top. We ran that play three times straight.
Speaker 2: I scored all three times. So coach Stote said, why
Speaker 2: do why don't we put that play in?
Speaker 3: Okay? And we put that play in and he called
Speaker 3: it over the Top. I scored it.
Speaker 2: Wow, tell us you got a podcast. You just started
Speaker 2: a podcast, right, I'm sorry, my podcast Bold Knows Men
Speaker 2: tell It.
Speaker 3: Okay. So all of that stuff we just talking about.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's about getting we as men to open up
Speaker 2: about personal medical issues because we hold stuff in too long.
Speaker 2: We don't talk about it because we think that it
Speaker 2: integrates us as a man. Yep, the more you talk
Speaker 2: about about it, the stronger it makes you. So I
Speaker 2: think it's one of my jobs, Like I said earlier.
Speaker 2: I don't think I was put on this earth to
Speaker 2: bill great football player of great baseball. I was put
Speaker 2: on this earth to help put some sunshine in somebody's
Speaker 2: And by talking about this where nobody else do, where
Speaker 2: nobody else want, I figure like that I'm giving something
Speaker 2: back to the public. Because the public has given me
Speaker 2: enough to wear. I can for the next ten lifetimes.
Speaker 2: But I want to give something back, and that's knowledge
Speaker 2: about men's health. Don't sit up and keep this to
Speaker 2: yourself and the things that I want to do. Let's
Speaker 2: say I come to your I come to your city,
Speaker 2: call you you, get all your doctors, your cardiologists, your urologists,
Speaker 2: you're a proctologists, get everybody, bring them to the fire
Speaker 2: shy chat, put them on stage with you and I.
Speaker 2: Now what we're gonna do is advertising enough where all
Speaker 2: the local.
Speaker 3: Men in your town gonna wanna come.
Speaker 2: We're gonna charge them five five, five to ten bots
Speaker 2: to come for a one hour, five shot chat. Now,
Speaker 2: don't those funds aren't gonna go to me. They're not
Speaker 2: gonna do that. But the funds will go in a
Speaker 2: fund to help that guy who don't have a good insurance,
Speaker 2: like you and I right to help pay for the
Speaker 2: PSA yep, to help pay for the colonaze. And what
Speaker 2: the doctor's gonna do because we are putting them on
Speaker 2: blast and talking about their company and their clinics. They
Speaker 2: got to give that patient a discount. The better because
Speaker 2: we are bringing you more patron now. And if they
Speaker 2: had to pay for that market it would cost them
Speaker 2: a half a million to a million and two dollars.
Speaker 2: So we're giving them that for a free to let
Speaker 2: them come there and talk. So it's all about giving
Speaker 2: back with me. And if I figured I could put
Speaker 2: some sunshine at one somebody's cloud, I feel that I've
Speaker 2: done my job. So it's not about bo Jackson. Then
Speaker 2: put these guy in sports. It's about what I'm doing now, right,
Speaker 2: And for years since I left sports, I've been in
Speaker 2: the shadows. Yeah do Outne raised three kids, they're all grown, married,
Speaker 2: got good jobs. Still trying to get them off payroll.
Speaker 2: Good luck with it, trying to get the paper. But
Speaker 2: I'm happy I got two grand boys that I spoiled
Speaker 2: the ship out of there.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm the kids. Tell you say, daddy, you treat
Speaker 2: them better. It gives them more then you gave us.
Speaker 3: Because I love them more. I said, I loved them more.
Speaker 3: You was my child. These are my grandkids. See, I can.
Speaker 2: Bring them over, jack them up on skills and coke,
Speaker 2: and send them.
Speaker 3: Home doing either. That's what I knew.
Speaker 2: Buy them whatever they want. My oldest song who's four
Speaker 2: years old, he'll get my phone. All his nah on
Speaker 2: his phone, but he said, Nana, what's the cold? Put
Speaker 2: cold in to open it? Go to go to the
Speaker 2: target app that's them right there. They'll go to the target,
Speaker 2: get that and he'll find something. Let's say, he'll look
Speaker 2: at a car. This is a pop up. He said,
Speaker 2: I don't have this one, which means you gotta buy
Speaker 2: me this one. I don't have this one, so you
Speaker 2: gotta get it from me. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I'm happy. But the bike ride you
Speaker 2: used to do a back ride across Alabama both by
Speaker 2: Osbama in this past summer was my last ride.
Speaker 3: Been doing it since twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just to raise money for a tornado las But
Speaker 2: I want to do something different to help support minority charities,
Speaker 2: and I have a come out public with that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's in the state of Alabama, that's my home state.
Speaker 2: But in Chicago, I have both Jackson Give Me a
Speaker 2: Chance Foundations, and we raised money for youth golf and
Speaker 2: for half of the foundations. The other half week donate
Speaker 2: till the Shirley Ryan Ability Lamp puts us at number
Speaker 2: one rehab hospital in the world for the past thirty
Speaker 2: five thirty six years, and we give funds to their
Speaker 2: Challenge Patience.
Speaker 3: Uh did this. So it's all about giving back from
Speaker 3: the dude. That's what it is all about. B Bo.
Speaker 2: You said your grandkids, your grandkids not gonna play football,
Speaker 2: they gonna play baseball.
Speaker 3: Baseball. That for your cause.
Speaker 2: I take him in Sox Parker in the areas he'll
Speaker 2: get out on I think it's the rubber balls. Yeah,
Speaker 2: get his classic back in this joke of hitting bass
Speaker 2: to second base.
Speaker 3: And he's four years old and four already he can stroke.
Speaker 3: He can stro.
Speaker 2: Guess who He'll say, guess who the three most famous
Speaker 2: baseball players in the world. Yeah he yes, guess what
Speaker 2: he said. He said, Aaron, Judge, Papa and me.
Speaker 3: And I love it. Yeah, I love it. Man.
Speaker 2: I'm blessed to the point to where everybody's in my
Speaker 2: family's happened. Yeah, my grandkids are happy. I'm happy, my
Speaker 2: friends are happy, and I'm gonna do everything I can
Speaker 2: to keep those people that's in my little little circle
Speaker 2: close to me and make sure they're all right, and
Speaker 2: they'll make sure they're not right. How often do you
Speaker 2: get to the park? How often do you get the
Speaker 2: football game? Do you go to sporting events? Were you
Speaker 2: a bigger? I know you were great at sports, but
Speaker 2: did you enjoy sports?
Speaker 3: I love sports.
Speaker 1: So you get to the park, you get to the
Speaker 1: games a month anymore? No, And it's for this reason.
Speaker 2: With it people all always ask, boh, you like you
Speaker 2: could play football?
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 2: It's a man I pulled a muscle lift in a
Speaker 2: toilet seat talking about I ain't playing that sport. Come on,
Speaker 2: be good, I said, I'm golf and now I can't
Speaker 2: golf because I got a bic LP terear And you'll
Speaker 2: get it fixed. You'll get it fixed. But I think
Speaker 2: it's strained. But I don't figure because I had I'm
Speaker 2: all right. This is just part of getting old. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: ship don't heel like they used to do. And you
Speaker 2: go to band, feel fine and wake up and something
Speaker 2: hurt The next morning. It feel like you got run
Speaker 2: over by But boss, what up there did I do?
Speaker 2: But I'm thinking that my wife then beat me in
Speaker 2: my sleep. But yes, it's like that now, and we
Speaker 2: gotta take care of us.
Speaker 3: We do.
Speaker 2: We gotta take don't ignore stuff. Now, if we wasn't
Speaker 2: on this mic, we wouldn't be talking as cordial and polite.
Speaker 3: But don't it. You knew our brothers talk. They ain't
Speaker 3: gonna tech stuff. We ain't gonna tech stuff.
Speaker 2: Man, don't ignore it, dude, don't think it's gonna go
Speaker 2: away because you don't know know about it.
Speaker 3: Get to your DA.
Speaker 2: Because number number one, you're doctor's not gonna lot good
Speaker 2: lives to you even accept the truth and do something
Speaker 2: about it and move on down the road. That's your
Speaker 2: only option. That's it, unless you ain't gonna be here
Speaker 2: long because look at how many guys that we played
Speaker 2: against with, played against, played with.
Speaker 3: From high school to now. Yeh, that's not with us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I lost three former college teammates, all within the
Speaker 2: span of like three months. So tell us one more
Speaker 2: time about the podcast that you're launching is black Men. No,
Speaker 2: it's called bo Knows Men Knows Men's help check out
Speaker 2: this podcast bow Nosed Men's Health. You're talking to the greatest.
Speaker 2: This was the greatest athlete of our time. I mean
Speaker 2: the last hundred years. There might have been others before
Speaker 2: a one hundred years ago, but if you talk about
Speaker 2: the last hundred years, this matter that I got an
Speaker 2: opportunity to see him play up closer personal with that
Speaker 2: Raiders team when he came to Denverrick he ran over
Speaker 2: our linebacker in nineteen ninety You remember that about well
Speaker 2: our hot Jalapenio wasn't I But you know something right
Speaker 2: up right after how I got off the field from
Speaker 2: that run. Yeah, I went and got that oxygen bro.
Speaker 1: Altitude altitude Yeah, absolutely, Bo Jackson both thanks for stopping back.
Speaker 3: Many had goodnessigure.
Speaker 1: Joining US now offensive tackle, former pro bowler.
Speaker 3: Yes Brown, Oh hi, I'm good.
Speaker 4: Good to see everything.
Speaker 3: It's been great. Oh yeah, so far this's off season.
Speaker 3: I mean, what have you been up to so far?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've just been in the facility.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: You know, I spend I don't leave Cincinnati.
Speaker 5: That's why I training. Yeah, that's home. I trained are
Speaker 5: year round. I love SINSI man, It's it's really it's
Speaker 5: a special place and for me. Uh, so much of
Speaker 5: the sport is about still staying in it. And I
Speaker 5: would go down to Miami and train and don't get
Speaker 5: me wrong, I get in shape, but it was the
Speaker 5: mental aspect. I feel like I would have to build
Speaker 5: back up when I came back and training hard in
Speaker 5: the facility day to day, keeping that same work routine
Speaker 5: year round.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: It just keep me in that state of mind.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: But that I mean, that's that's that's that's so much
Speaker 6: I like. I like your approach. I love your approach.
Speaker 6: But most of the time I think about when I
Speaker 6: was playing is after rigorous six months, rigorous six months,
Speaker 6: putting the time on and off the field when it
Speaker 6: came to the game, and studying the game, becoming a
Speaker 6: student of it, being somewhat of a sponge. Once the
Speaker 6: season ended, I needed to completely disconnect. I needed to recharge.
Speaker 6: I need to reset. So your approach I like it.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 6: But do you think you'll look back and say, well, damn,
Speaker 6: I never can go.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, Well, you know, early in my career, I
Speaker 5: would show up the training camp out of shape.
Speaker 4: I would I would I would take my time off.
Speaker 5: I would be heavy, you know, showing up my first
Speaker 5: four or five years in the league, and uh, you
Speaker 5: know I would take that time off. I would take
Speaker 5: that that six weeks or you know, from whenever the
Speaker 5: season ended, until you can't take six I can't do that.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna put on fifty pounds, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Get it?
Speaker 5: So, you know, I like for me as a big guy,
Speaker 5: like I got to stay in it and I keep my.
Speaker 3: Okay, I like it. I like it. Man, what you
Speaker 3: guys gotta do? You look at your guys.
Speaker 2: You got Tea, You got Chased Brown, the running back
Speaker 2: came out and played unbelievable. You got a solid tight
Speaker 2: end in GASICKI. Offensive line was good, probably could get
Speaker 2: a little better. But what do you guys need to do? Oh,
Speaker 2: there's two years in a row with the talent that
Speaker 2: you got. You got a top five quarterback, you got
Speaker 2: a top one, top two receiver, you got t on
Speaker 2: the other side, your running game is solid. What do
Speaker 2: you guys need to do to get into the postseason
Speaker 2: and make a deep run like you did in twenty twenty?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Well, you know, man, we got the hardest piece of
Speaker 5: the puzzle in non you know what I mean. And
Speaker 5: a lot of teams don't have that and were fortunately
Speaker 5: already had a hardest piece of the puzzle. But to me, man,
Speaker 5: it just come down to executing. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I feel like in terms of our overall continuity as
Speaker 5: a team, it hasn't necessarily been there when we needed it.
Speaker 5: And so whether that be us winning games in November
Speaker 5: and December, you know what I mean, It comes down
Speaker 5: to all of those different things, man, and to me,
Speaker 5: it points to the players in the locker room. You know,
Speaker 5: what are you willing to sacrifice, you know, to make
Speaker 5: sure that we're able to go out here and win
Speaker 5: these games.
Speaker 6: If you were the GM, if you were Mike Brown,
Speaker 6: I wanted to take You're not Orlando Brown.
Speaker 3: The offensive tackle.
Speaker 6: You are the owner and the play card, the one
Speaker 6: that can push the buttons on what we need to
Speaker 6: do to get over the hump. Whether it's offensively, whether
Speaker 6: it's defensively. What pieces would you love to add to
Speaker 6: the team to help you guys out, whether it's on offense,
Speaker 6: whether on defense, whether it's special teams just in general.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, me, it's always tough answering these kind of
Speaker 5: questions because you know, my brothers in there.
Speaker 6: Man, Yeah, I understand, and I put every player on
Speaker 6: the spot as if they weren't said player.
Speaker 3: How can we improve our team?
Speaker 5: Well, I think the reality is and this in this league.
Speaker 5: You look at the two teams in the super Bowl,
Speaker 5: it's one of the trenches and so to me, you know,
Speaker 5: I think it's going to start there. However, however that is,
Speaker 5: whoever that is, you know, having a playmaker, I believe
Speaker 5: at one of those four positions, it's going to be
Speaker 5: extremely important, especially in our division. And from there, man,
Speaker 5: I think, you know, that will take care of a
Speaker 5: lot of issues. You know, if you if you're asking
Speaker 5: me if I want a safety or over a D lineman,
Speaker 5: not at all, you know, I think I think just
Speaker 5: taking care of the trenches, man, adding more weapons in
Speaker 5: that area. You can never have enough D lineman. I
Speaker 5: remember we played when I was in Kansas City, we
Speaker 5: played Philadelphia Eagles in the Super Bowl. I think they
Speaker 5: broke the single season uh sacrack record. And I mean
Speaker 5: they had a wave three waves, two or three waves.
Speaker 5: I'm seeing BG Robert Quinn, Joshweg Yes, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. It's it's they got a wave. They got
Speaker 5: a wave of rushers, rushers, and so to me, that's
Speaker 5: what it takes, that's what it takes in this league
Speaker 5: to be able.
Speaker 3: To win one depth. I like it, Yeah, I like it?
Speaker 3: You got?
Speaker 2: I mean when you I look at you, you play
Speaker 2: a premium position and left and left tackle.
Speaker 3: How many more years you want to play? Obie on forty?
Speaker 3: How old are you now?
Speaker 4: I turned thirty in May.
Speaker 3: Year? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Man, I mean what year is there for you?
Speaker 4: I'm going to the nine y? Yeah, you're matter?
Speaker 3: What going to get? Twenty?
Speaker 4: Then you do like, what's the guy? Uh? Slay Jackie Slayeah?
Speaker 5: But I would love to I would love I mean, honestly,
Speaker 5: I want to play this game as long as I can.
Speaker 5: I really love I love his game, and I grew
Speaker 5: up in it, as you know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I grew up around Tony Jones and my dad and
Speaker 5: John Deanogden and you know, so many of these great
Speaker 5: players that ray lewis man. Just to be able to
Speaker 5: see the have that perspective at eight years old when
Speaker 5: those men come over and they sit down and talk
Speaker 5: with my dad because he's the OG on the team,
Speaker 5: and be able to listen to those conversations and hear
Speaker 5: what they gave to the game. Uh man, it's so special.
Speaker 5: It's so special to me, and so uh man, I love,
Speaker 5: I love what I do. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And I love, I love what the game is done
Speaker 5: for me. Uh Man, I hate to say it, you know,
Speaker 5: I I love. I love my life outside the ball too.
Speaker 5: But man, I'm giving my all. I'm gonna give him
Speaker 5: all and and hopefully we look back when I'm forty
Speaker 5: years old, we walk away and I.
Speaker 3: Got a gold jacket. Ye I like it.
Speaker 4: I like it.
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Speaker 3: Good. Yeah, I'm I'm gonna use this. I'm definitely gonna
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Speaker 7: I said used to.
Speaker 3: I did say used to.
Speaker 4: I did say, yes, sir.
Speaker 3: What's been good? What's going on them? Not much?
Speaker 4: Man, everything's good. I can't complaint. In Dallas, Still in Dallas, Yeah,
Speaker 4: still doing that. Kids, still growing up.
Speaker 7: My son EJ Is getting prepared to uh for his
Speaker 7: pro day at a and M it's dope and so
Speaker 7: giving him Send in love his way and want to
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Speaker 3: So you know how that is.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I got an important question to go ahead. I
Speaker 6: got a very important question because we're dealing with someone here,
Speaker 6: the greatest star, the greatest player to wear that star.
Speaker 3: On his helmet.
Speaker 6: So I've always had a dialogue with Cowboys fans.
Speaker 3: They've gotten on me because I'm thinking about.
Speaker 6: George Pickens and how valuable he is and what he
Speaker 6: was able to show in the small symbicize and how
Speaker 6: great he can be in the right situation. It's time
Speaker 6: for a nigga paid. I would like to know your
Speaker 6: thoughts in me, my thoughts before you go. Is him
Speaker 6: going to a team where you can maximize his true value?
Speaker 3: What do you think get paid?
Speaker 7: I would say George Pickens is at the right place.
Speaker 7: He is in the right place. He has a place
Speaker 7: where he can flourish. He has a place right alongside C. D.
Speaker 3: Lamb.
Speaker 7: Yes, because I think you have to have a batman
Speaker 7: and a robbin together.
Speaker 4: Irvin had Harper, Rice had.
Speaker 3: John Taylor.
Speaker 4: Yes, and even when you go back to yes, yes,
Speaker 4: so you have to have that kind of scenario.
Speaker 7: And I think what you saw was a glimpse of
Speaker 7: how good he can really become in a system that
Speaker 7: supports that type of environment.
Speaker 3: Yes, and so.
Speaker 7: My hope is that Jerry and George get this contracts
Speaker 7: for stuff behind them so we don't have to be
Speaker 7: dealing with all these questions during this time a season.
Speaker 7: The Dallas Cowboys deserve and the fans deserve a very quiet,
Speaker 7: boring offseason that when has that ever happen?
Speaker 3: That's why they.
Speaker 8: Deserve one's how they deserve.
Speaker 3: Was Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 6: I like it, and I love the examples of the
Speaker 6: duos that you just said. But when I think about
Speaker 6: George Pickins and Cede Lamb, those are two number ones.
Speaker 6: So based on what George picks has done and what
Speaker 6: George Pickings showed you, whatever contract the one that he deserves,
Speaker 6: it has to overlap that of Ceedee Lambs.
Speaker 7: Maybe maybe not first of foremost, So we don't know
Speaker 7: if he is the number one. A number one, don't quit,
Speaker 7: a number one goes through and don't pout when he
Speaker 7: doesn't get the ball.
Speaker 4: A number one.
Speaker 7: Understand that defenses could be doubling up on one, and
Speaker 7: you don't get not a throat. A number one says, Okay,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna draw double coverage. You better tell that one
Speaker 7: on one up by yourself, Yes, sir. A number one says, hey,
Speaker 7: why can we run the ball. I mean, we're trying
Speaker 7: to throw the ball against double coverage over here, and
Speaker 7: I got guys all over man and I got to defend.
Speaker 3: I'm playing the defensive back.
Speaker 7: You didn't hire me to play DV So A number
Speaker 7: one was says, run the daggon ball when it's six
Speaker 7: in the box or seven in the box.
Speaker 3: What did Michael tell you? And cover two? What did
Speaker 3: he tell you?
Speaker 9: But Michael says, throw it to me anyway, I'm gonna
Speaker 9: go get it. Michael went and got it, but Mike
Speaker 9: winning got it. Soptamber two, you got run him up
Speaker 9: out of it in me, but Mike ran and got it.
Speaker 7: Though Mike, Mike was never afraid of going in there
Speaker 7: on against two guys free got.
Speaker 4: Mike gonna you, Mike tell you right now you throw
Speaker 4: that slant.
Speaker 8: My folks back in Miami gonna eat because I'm gonna
Speaker 8: catch that slant. I may get knocked out, but I'm
Speaker 8: gonna catch that slam like this care and they gonna
Speaker 8: be moving the chains. And so that's the mentality that
Speaker 8: George needs to develop.
Speaker 4: You said a key word.
Speaker 7: He has to get in that system that affords him
Speaker 7: the opportunity to showcases the numbers.
Speaker 4: Harper thought he was the number one till he went
Speaker 4: to Tampa.
Speaker 7: A system also give you the ability to shine at
Speaker 7: your best.
Speaker 4: The right system, this own system will hold you back.
Speaker 6: This is the funny thing about it is is George
Speaker 6: Pickers has a skill set. Me knowing receivers, is he
Speaker 6: has a skill set to go anywhere and be able
Speaker 6: to show what I doubt that I'm adopted telling you
Speaker 6: because we saw him doing, and we saw him doing
Speaker 6: in Pittsburgh and s and they didn't even have a
Speaker 6: quarterback in.
Speaker 4: You put George system in.
Speaker 6: In open You put George Pickings and put him in
Speaker 6: with Mendoza coming.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, Veggas, no, you put him in put them
Speaker 4: in Vegas.
Speaker 6: Yeah, right now, right now, right now, Get in the ball,
Speaker 6: put in his hands.
Speaker 3: No, put him in position to make them player, to
Speaker 3: have somebody that can get in the ball, Get him
Speaker 3: the ball.
Speaker 7: So all I'm saying is the way he flourishes that
Speaker 7: is when he got somebody that can get him the ball,
Speaker 7: and there's a concerted reference whether you double him a
Speaker 7: double CD. One of them gonna be one on one,
Speaker 7: and I better destroy somebody that's one on one. If
Speaker 7: I'm not destroying somebody one on one, that means a
Speaker 7: tight end is free too. He's one on one and
Speaker 7: so I'm gonna run him out of that and they're
Speaker 7: gonna have to go back to cover two. I'm gonna
Speaker 7: get mine right.
Speaker 4: But nobody healthish part of our football. I knew if
Speaker 4: it was eight in the box, I'm like, nang, nang, I.
Speaker 7: Can't get a hundred, But I'll tell you what, that
Speaker 7: eighth man gonna get it.
Speaker 3: Yes, he gonna feel it four quarter.
Speaker 4: He ain't gonna want to stick his head in there.
Speaker 4: That's what has to happen.
Speaker 7: And I knew going into certain games, whether it was
Speaker 7: against Philly when they Buddy Ryan had that ape man, that.
Speaker 3: Bear defense defense.
Speaker 7: I'm like, man, I'd be lucky to get fifty five
Speaker 7: yards today, but I knew that.
Speaker 2: But I'm looking at her.
Speaker 4: Bet he better because when it's my time eat, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna eat.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 7: So that's the y ain't and the yang because the
Speaker 7: system and the defense also dictates what's happening because they
Speaker 7: can bracket you without even covering and close down the
Speaker 7: throwing lanes and throwing gaps, and guess who gonna have
Speaker 7: to full the trigger the quarter and if he's not
Speaker 7: comfortable with those small windows, throwing it your way.
Speaker 4: Ain't got nothing to new with the with the system.
Speaker 2: We had a conversation yesterday oho or nine. We're having
Speaker 2: a conc hopefully that answer your question.
Speaker 6: You do it, and it's a little selfish on your part,
Speaker 6: a little bit. You know, it's a little selfish on
Speaker 6: the Cowboys fans part as well, because I'm looking at
Speaker 6: I'm looking at something else.
Speaker 4: You're looking at the right thing.
Speaker 2: Remember we had the conversation yesterday and I told CD
Speaker 2: excuse me, I told Chase, and Chase was trying to
Speaker 2: tell me he x Y and Z. I say, well,
Speaker 2: a number one, I said, you never let how much
Speaker 2: you get in the ball or the situation dictate how
Speaker 2: hard you play. No, you play hard regardless of circumstances.
Speaker 2: Whether I catch ten balls when I catch one, I'm
Speaker 2: going to play hard. We've seen him drift forget about
Speaker 2: anything that may or may not have happened in Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: late for this, late for that, or whatever the case
Speaker 2: may be. But we've seen it firsthand that when he's
Speaker 2: not getting the ball. It became a national story because
Speaker 2: the head coach that I had a conversation with George
Speaker 2: and we can't let what happened that Thanksgiving against the Lions.
Speaker 2: We can't let that happen again. So that's all I've
Speaker 2: ever said his.
Speaker 7: And what I'm gonna say, what brand you got? What
Speaker 7: brand do you have? What brand do you have? What
Speaker 7: kind of football player were you? What kind of football
Speaker 7: player were you? What kind of football player?
Speaker 3: In mouth?
Speaker 4: I don't have to talk about it. It goes in
Speaker 4: the room before I get there. And at the end
Speaker 4: of the.
Speaker 7: Day, yes, sir, George has to ask m say what
Speaker 7: do I want to sing him.
Speaker 3: The football field?
Speaker 7: Before I get to I want people to be in
Speaker 7: the locker room or in the in the in their
Speaker 7: study room, and I want to the offensive court.
Speaker 3: They come up, guys, we.
Speaker 7: Gotta stop the run this week, this twenty two back
Speaker 7: here that they got. We can't let him get going, yes, sir,
Speaker 7: because if we let him get going, ay ain't gonna
Speaker 7: kill us, then no check gonna get going, So we
Speaker 7: gotta figure out a way.
Speaker 3: How are we gonna do this?
Speaker 7: They I want them to have a damn nightmare thinking
Speaker 7: about how they gonna stop us, because at the end
Speaker 7: of the day, you can't hold everything back, and when
Speaker 7: you hold one back, I got, Now I understand.
Speaker 3: Why I get. Thank you for the respect and all
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 7: George has to develop that kind of it's not all
Speaker 7: about me, yes, And that's the problem with a lot
Speaker 7: of kids today. They think everything is about them and
Speaker 7: and and so I had what I learned from Jimmy
Speaker 7: one day.
Speaker 4: I'm a rookie. We have on our two minute drill
Speaker 4: on Thursday night.
Speaker 3: You have two minute.
Speaker 4: Drill and Jimmy's in charge of put spot in the ball.
Speaker 7: He's the rip and so it's third and by four
Speaker 7: I get five yards.
Speaker 4: Do my little hoo cup catch the ball?
Speaker 7: First down? I see first time? Jim said, no, first down,
Speaker 7: no first time, moving his back for yards. So I
Speaker 7: was like, no, I got a first down, no first time?
Speaker 7: He said, no first time. Get in the hold, get
Speaker 7: in anoddle, I said, but coach, I got the first
Speaker 7: get in the hold to get your butt in and noddle.
Speaker 7: So I go in the huddle, then we're breaking home
Speaker 7: coming out, he said, time out, caught time out trot
Speaker 7: walking over to the sideline.
Speaker 3: I go up to her, I.
Speaker 4: Said, coach, I got the first a cat your buddy
Speaker 4: in the huddle.
Speaker 7: Embarrassment in front of all my teammates. I was mad,
Speaker 7: so I didn't talk to him. After practice, I walked
Speaker 7: by him. Don't say nothing. I'm going to the meeting room.
Speaker 7: Back there, walk pastim, don't say nothing. Come back out
Speaker 7: of the me room, going to the training room, walk
Speaker 7: past and don't say nothing.
Speaker 4: Getting ready to leave.
Speaker 7: The training room, walk past him. He said, oh, oh,
Speaker 7: you're not gonna speak. I said, coach, why do you
Speaker 7: get on me like that? Why you embarrassment in front
Speaker 7: of my team? He said, I want you to know
Speaker 7: something that wasn't for you, That was for everybody on
Speaker 7: the team to know that if I can get on
Speaker 7: my best players, and if you not one of the
Speaker 7: top player, then you don't stand the chairs. But I
Speaker 7: was mad because I had to call a time out.
Speaker 7: I was mad at the OC for not getting to
Speaker 7: play any time.
Speaker 3: Enough.
Speaker 7: Didn't have nothing to do to you. But I understand.
Speaker 7: I understood that. I said Wow, what a lesson to learn.
Speaker 7: We thought and we think things are about us. George
Speaker 7: is not all about you.
Speaker 3: See, this is not all.
Speaker 4: About you, tight end. It is not all about him.
Speaker 3: That is not all about you.
Speaker 7: The five guys up front that protect all him in
Speaker 7: order for you to get the ball naked about them,
Speaker 7: because that's how you get the running game going. That's
Speaker 7: how you get the past game going. If Dak is
Speaker 7: on his back, he can't throw it, damn.
Speaker 3: So it's just that simple to me.
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer number twenty two for the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: Emmi Smith and appreciated.
Speaker 3: Most of that.
Speaker 4: Educated you.
Speaker 6: You get to keep it, Okay, keep but don't nobody
Speaker 6: give me nothing.
Speaker 4: I gave you something. Appreciate.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I.
Speaker 6: Really get gifts, but I appreciate that to me. You
Speaker 6: accept gifts, hey, and it gave me a gift. We
Speaker 6: talking back.
Speaker 1: Appreciate your dog, but no, but that's the real Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's hey, it's more to be talked about.
Speaker 3: There's more to be talked about. Okay, what what that means?
Speaker 3: We're talk we are talk We're hope we're talk.
Speaker 1: Ear.
Speaker 3: What's the number one? Am I gonna get easy, gonna
Speaker 3: get his true value.
Speaker 4: It's true. Whoever get their true value quarterbacks do.
Speaker 3: Now we're gonna even deserve it. True. Yeah, I said it.
Speaker 3: I said it. Goodness to your dog. I ain't lying either.
Speaker 3: Don't you know shit you're trying to tell? I mean tnuse.
Speaker 2: Now he played with the Green Bay package from twenty
Speaker 2: seventeen to twenty twenty three. Now he's a Minnesota Vikings
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Moving forward, kind of ding this year.
Speaker 2: Harry's Aaron Jones, Hey, Jay, what's going on? Bro So's Yes,
Speaker 2: sir ah Man, let's start with the olph in the room.
Speaker 2: It's got to be paid. The guy that y'all had
Speaker 2: at the back last year is here. How different do
Speaker 2: you believe your season would have been had that guy
Speaker 2: still been in your locker room?
Speaker 4: I feel like we we last year.
Speaker 1: We we only lost to two teams, really lost two games.
Speaker 1: We lost the two games to the.
Speaker 3: The Rams and then two the Lions.
Speaker 4: So I felt like we had everything we needed.
Speaker 1: But you know, we're not. We're not gems or nothing
Speaker 1: that's outside of us. Yes, but definitely, you know, when
Speaker 1: when you guys, when you got a group of guys
Speaker 1: behind the quarterback, and uh, he wants to stay somewhere.
Speaker 1: I think you try to make it work right when
Speaker 1: I look at you, look at your general manager. Quas
Speaker 1: Adolpho Mensa ended up losing his job obviously. You know,
Speaker 1: they said, well, he had this many draft picks and
Speaker 1: only two Pro Bowl players were selected, and uh, Sam
Speaker 1: Donald ends up going to on a van friendly contract.
Speaker 1: There's no question about mind that the Minnesota could have
Speaker 1: matched that contract because it seemed like it was like
Speaker 1: thirty up to the million dollars and a couple have been
Speaker 1: seeing him. You win, you're the Vision, and you win
Speaker 1: a playoff game, you get to the super Bowl. Man
Speaker 1: who wouldn't put those kind of centim in there? I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean I got to play a million dollars if
Speaker 1: he gets to the super Bowl. I would gladly play
Speaker 1: a million dollars. Get to get a guy, get me
Speaker 1: to the super.
Speaker 3: Bowl him too.
Speaker 4: I pay you my checking this this super Bowl check.
Speaker 2: How do you feel? I mean, this year you got
Speaker 2: nicked a little bit. It's been a while. I mean
Speaker 2: normally you you're very durable. You catch the ball up,
Speaker 2: You're dual threat. You can catch it, you can run it.
Speaker 2: But you gotta got nick this year. How disappointed and
Speaker 2: frustrated was your season this year compared to years paying.
Speaker 3: It was?
Speaker 4: It was a little frustrating.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say disappointing because I got I got to
Speaker 1: step up as a leader, find different ways to make
Speaker 1: an impact. But it was because I feel like when
Speaker 1: I'm when I'm healthy and when I'm out there can't
Speaker 1: be f with at all.
Speaker 4: So it's a it's a point of just staying staying healthy.
Speaker 1: And I never felt like after I got week week two,
Speaker 1: I put my hamstring. Yes yeah, really didn't get back
Speaker 1: healthy till I came back, But really wasn't feeling myself
Speaker 1: to Detroit the first time we played Detroit. That came
Speaker 1: out in the first half at like seventy eight yards
Speaker 1: and then start the third quarter ac joint mister the
Speaker 1: rest of that and just battling. So just get back
Speaker 1: to it, really ground this offseason, take care of myself
Speaker 1: and how the best one yet show everybody I still
Speaker 1: got it and I'm still him and I'm the best
Speaker 1: running back.
Speaker 6: Outside of having to prove yourself, not even prove yourself,
Speaker 6: but prove all the doubt is wrong in your team
Speaker 6: you look at the landscape of your team. What do
Speaker 6: you think you guys need to do differently to be
Speaker 6: able to be in the conversation and be here when
Speaker 6: you're not here talking with us, but you're here doing
Speaker 6: radio road media in the Super Bowl next year.
Speaker 3: What do you think needs to happen?
Speaker 1: I feel like it comes down to execution and minimizing
Speaker 1: those minimizing them stakes. Yet you gotta play mistake free football,
Speaker 1: or at least it's you know, nothing's gonna be perfect,
Speaker 1: but don't turn over the ball. Anytime you don't turn
Speaker 1: over the ball, you give yourself a chance to win.
Speaker 1: But uh, just all eleven playing with a with a
Speaker 1: mean streak across the board, like because when I felt
Speaker 1: like when we would lock in and that removed the ball.
Speaker 1: But if not, if nobody was saying nothing, it wasn't happening.
Speaker 1: So just staying on top of everybody when we get
Speaker 1: in a huddle and being that being an enforcer of confidence, like, hey,
Speaker 1: is there any place.
Speaker 4: You'd rather be?
Speaker 1: Y'all dream to be in here right now? So like,
Speaker 1: let's go do this. I don't care who's standing in
Speaker 1: front of you. Yeah, And it was because that's how
Speaker 1: I think when I when I step on the field,
Speaker 1: like I came in with a Rod Davante Adams, But
Speaker 1: in my head, I was the best player on the field.
Speaker 1: May what was I really? Maybe not? But you gotta
Speaker 1: be that the league mentality. As you mentioned a Rod,
Speaker 1: he's contemplating retirement. He's about to be forty two years
Speaker 1: of age. What advice would you offer Aaron? You Like
Speaker 1: I said, you you you had some great years with Aaron.
Speaker 1: You won some MVP You you was there when he
Speaker 1: won MVPs, when he was at.
Speaker 4: His absolute apex.
Speaker 2: Yes, Uh, if you could offer so many insight, you know,
Speaker 2: he said, I want to dec so I want to
Speaker 2: take some time away from this. Before I made my decision,
Speaker 2: it seemed like he was having fun the most funny
Speaker 2: long time. Uh and Pittsburgh as opposed the previous two
Speaker 2: seasons in New York.
Speaker 3: Uh. Anything you want to share.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was about to hit on. I
Speaker 1: think he got a lot of ball left. Like you
Speaker 1: see him out there, he's looked like he having fun.
Speaker 1: Is his celebrations. The love for the game is back
Speaker 1: in his heart and you can you can see it.
Speaker 1: And UH, and he's a competitor.
Speaker 3: I think he. I think that's me. I think he
Speaker 3: comes back.
Speaker 4: I think he.
Speaker 3: I think he got a lot left.
Speaker 1: Like you see at the end of the one of
Speaker 1: the games, he threw a hell marriage just flicked his
Speaker 1: wrists seventy Yeah, you can't just come out and coach that.
Speaker 3: Like if he comes back, would it be there or
Speaker 3: would it be in Minnesota?
Speaker 4: I like him in Minnesota.
Speaker 3: I mean that's my daughter.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just I'm just throwing that and just
Speaker 1: what he brings to a locker room.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, that leadership, that is a standard.
Speaker 1: Like if you if you ain't in your playbook, oh
Speaker 1: you ain't, You ain't seeing the field like he gonna
Speaker 1: he gonna test you. He gonna throw some signals out
Speaker 1: there and he gonna see if you really care about this,
Speaker 1: right right?
Speaker 4: And as a player, like I love.
Speaker 1: That because I'm I'm in my books, I'm I'm making
Speaker 1: an effort like I came. I came from Utaph from
Speaker 1: nothing like right, so I had to I had to
Speaker 1: earn that. And when you do it the right way
Speaker 1: and it's noticed, it's refreshing.
Speaker 6: And most definitely when I think about it too, just
Speaker 6: envisioned hypothetically speaking, you know, quarterbacks normally flourished, especially like
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers who's now on the older side. So you
Speaker 6: put him in a situation where he doesn't have to
Speaker 6: elevate those around him, but the team around him can
Speaker 6: elevate elevate him.
Speaker 3: And you know what, you know what team you can
Speaker 3: do that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got you got Honkinson's gonna be back. They
Speaker 2: got Naylor.
Speaker 3: It makes sense to me. You're running the ball in
Speaker 3: the backfield, Jordan Mason still there.
Speaker 2: You got a situation where you're going into your ten season,
Speaker 2: normally ten years for running back. That's kind of that's
Speaker 2: that's normally that that kind of it. But you're still
Speaker 2: playing at an elite level.
Speaker 3: What do you what do you.
Speaker 1: Attribute that you just standing on top of even though
Speaker 1: I was banged up a little bit this year, just
Speaker 1: staying on top of my body as much as I can,
Speaker 1: trying to find different things and different ways to stay
Speaker 1: in front of it.
Speaker 3: I'm back in the after I lead a facility.
Speaker 1: I'm back in the facility every day for about two hours.
Speaker 1: I go home, two hours, hang out, grab my son.
Speaker 1: He comes to the facility with me. He in the
Speaker 1: hot tub, he and he and a sauna, he doing
Speaker 1: all of that. So just finding ways to stay ahead
Speaker 1: of the game and and then just really busting my
Speaker 1: butt in the off season.
Speaker 4: Just kind of I took it from Jerry Rice.
Speaker 1: I was watching something and he was saying he don't
Speaker 1: take much time off, like he from running, like he
Speaker 1: keeps his body going.
Speaker 4: So it never all right, I'm old.
Speaker 3: Now I got to get this body back going.
Speaker 1: So just kind of took that from him, and then
Speaker 1: I think it's a mentality than one two.
Speaker 3: I want to play this game for as long.
Speaker 1: As I can to. They tell me I can't. So
Speaker 1: it's funny because we had like Harrison Smith, c J.
Speaker 1: Ham retired this year, and uh, I'm looking at them.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I don't it's not gonna this is
Speaker 1: not gonna be me.
Speaker 3: I don't like I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna have to go this. Tell you can't play this team,
Speaker 1: don't want to call okay, call it next team. And
Speaker 1: that's how I feel like.
Speaker 3: This is gonna end for me. Bro I like it.
Speaker 3: I like it. You got a quarterback you selected very high.
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, but he's kind of been Nick missed his
Speaker 2: entire rookie year and was in and out of the
Speaker 2: lineup this year. What what what do you think he
Speaker 2: needs to do in order to stay healthy on the
Speaker 2: field and then prove because right now he's up against
Speaker 2: the ghost of Sam Donald. Sam Donald was there and
Speaker 2: you mentioned they won. Y'all won for y'all was fourteen
Speaker 2: and three, Uh, the years of Sam Donald was playing.
Speaker 2: And now Sam goes to another team and he's in
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. So unfortunately for him, he's up against
Speaker 2: the ghost of Sam Donald.
Speaker 1: I think you just got to come in and continue
Speaker 1: to continue to grow, continue to believe in himself. And
Speaker 1: I always tell him, you're here for a reason. We
Speaker 1: need you and you you made it this far. About
Speaker 1: what you got up here and your your God giving
Speaker 1: a billion the work that you put in.
Speaker 3: So don't let that change you.
Speaker 1: Don't let no outside noise change you or how you
Speaker 1: think of yourself, because confidence is a big thing when
Speaker 1: you step on that. Just trying to steal that in him,
Speaker 1: but uh, just getting back to the fundamental sitting down,
Speaker 1: taking a deep breath, and I feel like Trady Kemp
Speaker 1: will be huge from all those reps and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: And I say, what a young quarterback. It takes time.
Speaker 1: Like you, look look at him. They was ready to
Speaker 1: write him off at one point. Look at Jordan Love,
Speaker 1: he had time to come in and sit down and develop. Uh,
Speaker 1: Bryce Young this year, he had time to sit down
Speaker 1: and but not he didn't even sit down. He played
Speaker 1: through that development though, and they gave it. He got
Speaker 1: he got bench, came right, look good. Yeah, so it
Speaker 1: takes it takes time for quarterbacks. We were so used
Speaker 1: to those cornerstone quarterbacks that we've had for a while,
Speaker 1: and I think it's changing over and it takes Tom
Speaker 1: for them. People just look at Peyton and they look
Speaker 1: at Man Peyton Man, and Peyton's terrible as rookie.
Speaker 2: I was in the league and Tom didn't even start
Speaker 2: his rookie year. So we don't know what Tom could
Speaker 2: or couldn't have been. And then for the first couple
Speaker 2: of years they were a run defensive football team before
Speaker 2: the Tom. Yeah, we see the finish, probably Tom, but
Speaker 2: Tom didn't start off like that because if he started
Speaker 2: off like that, he wouldn't have been a sixth round
Speaker 2: draft pick. He'd have been a first round draft pick.
Speaker 2: But that being said, you do and you hear all
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks talk about it. You hear Peyton, you hear Tom,
Speaker 2: you hear Drew, you hear some of these guys like
Speaker 2: they're not developing quarterbacks anymore because everybody wants this thing instantaneous.
Speaker 2: They're not willing to They were not willing to let
Speaker 2: these guys grow.
Speaker 3: Brow.
Speaker 4: You ain't wanted some playoff game yet, Bro, I'm.
Speaker 1: A rookie, and it seemed like it all fought on
Speaker 1: them too. Yes, and it's not always them. There's things
Speaker 1: around them that gotta be working too. We gotta make
Speaker 1: their job easier.
Speaker 2: Because the thing is now, you see the cap went
Speaker 2: up to like between three hundred and one and three
Speaker 2: hundred and five million, So in the next five years,
Speaker 2: that means the cap is gonna be damn near four
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars money coming in. With that being said,
Speaker 2: when you got to play within the next ten years,
Speaker 2: you know there's gonna be a quarterback making.
Speaker 3: One hundred million a year. One hundred percent. He's gonna
Speaker 3: be making a hundred million.
Speaker 4: Get a little sonning backs, get a little song.
Speaker 2: And so the thing is is that, hey, we're gonna
Speaker 2: pay somebody a hundred million dollars a year.
Speaker 3: I got to know it for certain. He can play.
Speaker 3: He's the one.
Speaker 1: He gotta be the one hundred million he got to
Speaker 1: be able to take us to the game.
Speaker 3: Hundred million.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a big investment. Yeah, Aaron Jones, thanks
Speaker 1: for joining us.
Speaker 3: Broken. I appreciate y'all. Love legends. You already know. Twenty
Speaker 3: five first Team All Pro, one hundred and twenty seve catch.
Speaker 2: Up with the NFL record for tight end legit twelve
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty nine receiving yards, eleven touchdown. He just
Speaker 2: broke the record single season record for a tight end.
Speaker 2: Trey McBride, Trey, how you doing, bro?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Man, manreciate y'all.
Speaker 3: Man, this will be.
Speaker 2: Listen, let's go and get mad. You're here for the mad, right, sir,
Speaker 2: So talk to us about it.
Speaker 4: Just just you know, obviously a great game Madden.
Speaker 10: You know, obviously love playing, man, And what do I
Speaker 10: gotta do to get one more point?
Speaker 4: Man, I'm a ninety eight.
Speaker 3: You're you're probably gonna be a nine. I'm gonna sit.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna sit together with my team.
Speaker 6: We're gonna discuss because obviously you should be a ninety nine.
Speaker 6: What you were able to do this season so tremendous.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna have to sit down and talk about that.
Speaker 4: Having to have a deep conversation about.
Speaker 2: You you want to go shooting that.
Speaker 6: Change conversation isn't even deep, it's more so common sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the numbers talking man.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, you had an unbelievable season, obviously, and you
Speaker 2: had an individual great season, not the team success that
Speaker 2: you would hope for. Your head coach got relieved of
Speaker 2: its duty. What do you think you guys need to do?
Speaker 2: You hired Mike Lafleur, who's an offensive coordinator at the
Speaker 2: at the Rams. What do you think you guys, what
Speaker 2: do you guys need to do in order for you
Speaker 2: to make a playoff run, to get into the playoffs
Speaker 2: and and and see some of the individual success that
Speaker 2: you enjoying. Let people see you on the big stage
Speaker 2: in a playoff game.
Speaker 10: I think you know, we're right there, man, We're close.
Speaker 10: We're in every single game, we're in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 10: We're you know, one play here, one play there, and
Speaker 10: I think that's what we need, man, We just need
Speaker 10: that one play to get us over the edge.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: We're right there.
Speaker 10: We just got to finish games and last year, we
Speaker 10: just weren't finishing games good enough. And I think we're
Speaker 10: gonna just finish games this year and we're gonna be
Speaker 10: right there in that conversation.
Speaker 6: How's the body holding up after having a season like that,
Speaker 6: having that amount of catches, going through that kind of punishment,
Speaker 6: how's the body holding up so far?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I feel great, man, feel really good man.
Speaker 10: I wish I was still playing, you know, I feel
Speaker 10: good enough to keep playing, so, uh, just got to
Speaker 10: keep going. I'm young man, just feeling great, so just
Speaker 10: got to build on it next year.
Speaker 3: Or you the best tied end in football?
Speaker 4: You know it's it's I'm a great tight end, man,
Speaker 4: But these.
Speaker 6: Are no answer, no answer, PC. Yes, you are the
Speaker 6: greatest tight end in football right now.
Speaker 3: It's okay.
Speaker 10: It's hard because you know Travis George, he's gotta been
Speaker 10: doing it for a long time, and they got a
Speaker 10: body of work, a log body of work. And I
Speaker 10: just got to got stacked a few more years. And
Speaker 10: I think we can put myself in that conversation.
Speaker 2: Three years of your NFL career, you had six touchdown.
Speaker 2: This year you break out you have eleven. What what
Speaker 2: was different?
Speaker 1: What clicked this year as what I mean, obviously your
Speaker 1: third year you had an unbelievable season, But what wasn't
Speaker 1: for you that totally that you were totally in sync.
Speaker 1: And it seems to me that once a Jacoby Brissette
Speaker 1: got today, he's like, hey, get'll portray.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think that's exactly what it was. Man.
Speaker 10: Jacoby was just like, if it's one on one man,
Speaker 10: the ball's coming to you. I just expect the ball
Speaker 10: to come to you. And even if it's two on
Speaker 10: one man, the ball's coming to you. So Jacoby just
Speaker 10: had a lot of faith in me. He had a
Speaker 10: lot of trust in me. And uh, I think that's
Speaker 10: what it was.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 10: He just believed in me, and the opportunities kept coming
Speaker 10: and I was making place for him.
Speaker 2: Have you had an opportunity to study the Rams offense,
Speaker 2: because that's the offense that you guys are going to
Speaker 2: be running now. Normally that offense is predicated on the
Speaker 2: outside guys. You see Cooper Cup, you see Cooper and Nakua,
Speaker 2: you see Davonte Adams. It's really not tight end centric.
Speaker 2: But and I let you guy Wilson is I was
Speaker 2: trying to tell o joke. Yeah, but nice you're their
Speaker 2: best receipt and so now you're gonna have the gear
Speaker 2: on the offense that's really suited.
Speaker 3: To make sure you get your catches, making you get
Speaker 3: your target. Yeah.
Speaker 10: I think of the other thing about it, man, he
Speaker 10: not only did they have the receiver receipt, they led
Speaker 10: the league in thirteen personnel. Man, So they love the
Speaker 10: tight end. They're gonna put the tight end out on
Speaker 10: the field and they're gonna throw to the tight end too.
Speaker 10: So I think that's a huge part of us. But
Speaker 10: we do have two great receivers with Marvin Harrison Michael Wilson. Man,
Speaker 10: we got a lot of weapons on that offense, and
Speaker 10: I'm just excited to see how how Michael Folly is
Speaker 10: gonna get all the ball.
Speaker 2: Man, It's gonna be a lot of fun. When you
Speaker 2: got into the league, what was what was your expectations?
Speaker 2: What did you hope to accomplish? Because you've had such success,
Speaker 2: He's gone a couple of Pro Bowls and here you are.
Speaker 2: You set the NFL record most receiving yards in a
Speaker 2: single season by tight end one hundred and twenty six.
Speaker 2: One twenty six almost almost led the league in reception.
Speaker 2: In reception you finished three behind Puokah one twenty six, twelve,
Speaker 2: thirty nine and eleven touchdowns.
Speaker 3: What were your hopes when you got into the league?
Speaker 3: What did you say?
Speaker 4: You know what, my first my first quarter, my first.
Speaker 3: Four year in the NFL? What were you hoping to accomplish?
Speaker 10: You know, I knew I was a great player. I
Speaker 10: just wanted to be the best player that I can be.
Speaker 10: I didn't know to this extent that I was gonna be.
Speaker 10: You get the opportunity, you get a little bit of
Speaker 10: a success man, and it's like, I'm just hungry for Man. Now,
Speaker 10: I just gotta do what I did last year, beat
Speaker 10: it again. And now it's just a consistency being able
Speaker 10: to do it over and over and over again. And
Speaker 10: I think that's what really makes a great Tide end
Speaker 10: is doing it over and over again.
Speaker 2: I definitely agree with that, because the thing is is
Speaker 2: that it's it's easy to sneak up on someone when
Speaker 2: really people don't know who you are.
Speaker 3: But you know when they do.
Speaker 2: When defensive coordinators go into that room on Monday, they
Speaker 2: got that number circle. This is the guy that we
Speaker 2: got to neutralize if we want to have any hopes
Speaker 2: of winning this ball game. We got to keep this
Speaker 2: guy under control. And for you to go out there
Speaker 2: game in and game out, week in and week out
Speaker 2: and show the level of consistency in what you've done,
Speaker 2: that speaks volume to the type of player that you are.
Speaker 4: And like, it's a lot harder to get over now.
Speaker 10: You know, it used to be easy, and the hell
Speaker 10: I was getting wide open and now it's getting chipped
Speaker 10: at the line.
Speaker 4: I'm getting double team here and there.
Speaker 10: And I think it just it means more when I
Speaker 10: catch a ball now because it's like I had to
Speaker 10: really work for it.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 10: It wasn't just schemed up and wasn't I really had
Speaker 10: to get open and work for it. You had to
Speaker 10: beat two guys instead of one, and just means a
Speaker 10: little bit more. So now there's no secret. Man, Now
Speaker 10: I got to do it again when everyone knows.
Speaker 3: Who I am.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when it's all said done, how do you want
Speaker 2: your career? How do you want how do you want
Speaker 2: to be remembered? How does Trey McBride want to be
Speaker 2: remember when it's all said.
Speaker 10: And done, Just as a consistent, you know, elite player, man,
Speaker 10: a guy who kind of did everything the right way,
Speaker 10: you know, played for his teammates and most importantly, man
Speaker 10: did it the right way. I think that's the most
Speaker 10: thing is, Uh, you don't want to, you know, cheat
Speaker 10: the game, man. You just want to keep keep building
Speaker 10: it and then just do it the right way. And
Speaker 10: I think that's what I'm trying to build it.
Speaker 3: You know. The thing is in your quarterback, Kyleer.
Speaker 2: You've been there, He's been there your entire time, and
Speaker 2: there's a stretchy that he might be leaving, he might
Speaker 2: be traded, and now some of that has been taken
Speaker 2: back that they's a chance that he might stay there.
Speaker 2: Are you okay with that? Or you think you guys,
Speaker 2: Kyle's got kind of got nicked, but you had great
Speaker 2: seasons under Kyle that. I mean, it just it just skyrocketed.
Speaker 2: It just got rocketed with with Jacobia.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Man, I love Kyler Man.
Speaker 10: He's a tremendous player, a guy who can make all
Speaker 10: the off schedule plays. Man, he can he can do
Speaker 10: it all. So I love everything about him and I'd
Speaker 10: love to have him back as a quarterback because obviously
Speaker 10: we got a great chemistry. We got I know exactly
Speaker 10: what he's thinking. But you know, whoever's back there slinging it. Man,
Speaker 10: I'm gonna get open for him and we're gonna make
Speaker 10: it happen.
Speaker 3: Baby.
Speaker 2: So okay, so we can pilsor you in one thirty
Speaker 2: that you had one thirty and just add you know,
Speaker 2: add one or two dead to all those because you know, okay,
Speaker 2: you already got directed, so you might as well try
Speaker 2: to get I think Kelsey Kelsey got over fourteen hundred. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you got to get that one. And I think Bronk
Speaker 2: has like seventeen.
Speaker 3: Sixteen, seventeen something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I got some work to do now.
Speaker 6: All you got to do is start off early. You
Speaker 6: start off early those first five.
Speaker 3: Weeks, yeah, and just cruise the rest of the season
Speaker 3: with TDS. I don't know.
Speaker 2: You get one thirty plus fifteen hundred yards and sixteen touchdown,
Speaker 2: you might be the first tight end to win an
Speaker 2: NV feed.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, with those kinds of.
Speaker 3: Noble man, congratulations, great you got But how you doing?
Speaker 11: I'm doing all right, man, It's good to see y'all. Man,
Speaker 11: proud of y'all. Is always doing y'all thinks. I watch
Speaker 11: y'all want our kids, especially night Cab, you know, doing
Speaker 11: y'all things. I said my boy, just making noise and stuff, winning,
Speaker 11: you know, winning top ten across the border.
Speaker 4: Just handling this business now, don't mind saying that.
Speaker 11: And I've been in it as long as he has,
Speaker 11: and the podcast work't I have my feelings.
Speaker 4: Kicking my head.
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, but I'm like this now, No, I've
Speaker 11: been Yeah, I'm following it.
Speaker 4: So I'm good with it. I'm good with it.
Speaker 3: Like, so, what's you what's you been?
Speaker 6: Go ahead, I'm gonna say I want to talk a
Speaker 6: little basketball. I know he knows, he has a knowledge.
Speaker 6: He's in the game, understand the game and can hear
Speaker 6: some of the things that we can't hear from the background.
Speaker 3: Yannis yeah, and Joab Yeah.
Speaker 6: Is there a move for those two before today's before
Speaker 6: the four o'clock.
Speaker 11: Des Highly unlikely. It's highly unlikely. It's still possible, but
Speaker 11: highly unlikely. Yannis has four calf injuries since over the
Speaker 11: last nineteen months.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 11: I'm a Knicks fan, yes, so long suffering, diehard Knicks fan,
Speaker 11: and I'm sitting up there, yeah you so still you
Speaker 11: always tease me about that.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, get me started with him.
Speaker 11: But the thing about it is this, I'm like, go
Speaker 11: get him, Go get Yannis, go get Gianni's and then
Speaker 11: the calf injuries him. Wait a minute now, I mean
Speaker 11: wait a minute now, because here's the reason why it
Speaker 11: really hurt Stephen Ain't. I'm gonna tell why you get nervous.
Speaker 11: I'm tell why you get nervous, KD calf injury for
Speaker 11: the torn achilles. You see what happened last year Haller
Speaker 11: Burton Tatum, you get nervous. So the worst thing that
Speaker 11: could happen to the New York Knicks. You're gonna have
Speaker 11: to trade at least two players in a couple of picks.
Speaker 11: And if you do that and then Yannis can't go,
Speaker 11: oh is what it?
Speaker 4: Dister?
Speaker 2: And I can't have that, And they're gonna want to
Speaker 2: back extension this summer.
Speaker 11: To That's right, and I so I worry about that.
Speaker 11: In the case of John Moran, here's my problem. First
Speaker 11: of all, all of these cats that want to get
Speaker 11: on him for his troubles from years ago.
Speaker 4: Stop that. To stop that.
Speaker 11: You know, he's young, he made a mistake. Let it go, Damn,
Speaker 11: let it go. But here's what you can't hold against him.
Speaker 11: I see no change in his game. I see no
Speaker 11: change in his game. No, no, no, no, Evolve. You
Speaker 11: shoot twenty three percent for three point rangs. Do you
Speaker 11: know that that's the second worst three point shooter in
Speaker 11: the NBA right now?
Speaker 6: Hold on, I'm just saying at the second level and
Speaker 6: when it's time to drive to the that that's where
Speaker 6: he makes his head.
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying to you is the way the
Speaker 4: game is now.
Speaker 11: You gotta be able to be a perimeter threat, so
Speaker 11: he could give you eighteen to twenty a night when
Speaker 11: he's The problem is to get you to the next level.
Speaker 11: You gotta be able to hit, especially with him being
Speaker 11: as slim as he is.
Speaker 3: You gotta be able to get guard. You can't shoot
Speaker 3: twenty three.
Speaker 11: Twenty three percent from three point ran three point ranks.
Speaker 11: You can't do that. And so when I'm looking at him,
Speaker 11: maybe it's because of the distractions, maybe it's because of
Speaker 11: the money you got comfortable, but I'm not seeing any
Speaker 11: evolving in your game. And that's what I'm worried about, not.
Speaker 4: That he can't put.
Speaker 3: I know we can involve coming on down there.
Speaker 6: The destruction environment where discipline is concerned in Miami.
Speaker 4: I don't mind that.
Speaker 11: I don't I don't know but wait a minute, but
Speaker 11: at the expense of whom, because I ain't letting go
Speaker 11: Tyler Hero for him.
Speaker 4: What you know, let me tell you why. Tyler Hero
Speaker 4: can shoot. He can spread the floor.
Speaker 11: If if if John can't shoot, then how that's gonna
Speaker 11: help Bam, How that's gonna help collel Well, how that's
Speaker 11: gonna help these other cats. You need to have somebody
Speaker 11: that can shoot from the outside to keep you on
Speaker 11: this so when you come out there to defend him,
Speaker 11: it gives.
Speaker 4: You big some space. You can't have a cat that's
Speaker 4: got to go.
Speaker 3: To the hole.
Speaker 11: You listen, remember when Ben Simmons was playing, Yes, this
Speaker 11: is an all time player.
Speaker 4: I'll never get as long as I live.
Speaker 11: Carmelo Anthony is guarding Ben Simmons and then it's like
Speaker 11: a light bulb flash and he said, he said, what
Speaker 11: the hell I'm not doing and turned his back to
Speaker 11: Ben Simmons and sprint it to the pain.
Speaker 4: He said, what am I guarding him out there for?
Speaker 4: He'll never shoot at you? See what I'm saying?
Speaker 11: Yeah, you gotta make somebody respect you enough to guard
Speaker 11: you away from the battle.
Speaker 2: This game, everybody, I mean only one player, uh uh?
Speaker 2: And Jane Day you Jade and daniels In and Connor
Speaker 2: from Threads. Ye, well, the only two people that we've
Speaker 2: had come across this desk and picked the Patriots to
Speaker 2: win this game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it ain't gonna be me.
Speaker 11: The ain't gonna be me. I ain't picking no damn Patricks.
Speaker 11: I hope that's not what you were needed. Why did
Speaker 11: you want to pick them? Well, it's so right now
Speaker 11: it's ten to two. Everybody else that's coming up here
Speaker 11: to talk to old you and that, right, it's ten
Speaker 11: to to Seattle to win over the page.
Speaker 4: Then I'm eleven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm love it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm love it.
Speaker 3: Love What is it about? What is it about the
Speaker 3: Seahawks that you love the most?
Speaker 4: Complete?
Speaker 11: New England went against the Chargers damn good defense. Yeah,
Speaker 11: they went against Houston elite defenses. They went against the
Speaker 11: ver Broncos sixty eight sacks for a shive of the
Speaker 11: all time record.
Speaker 4: I know you know it about to Broncos.
Speaker 11: None of them were considered number one. It was Seattle, right,
Speaker 11: that's the defense you got to go against. Then I'm
Speaker 11: looking at the Patriots office. It's only giving you eighteen
Speaker 11: points per game in the postseason. Now, I understand the
Speaker 11: blizzard in Denver in the second half, right, but how
Speaker 11: you explain the first four and out, the first four possessions?
Speaker 4: You had three and outs in the first half.
Speaker 11: How do you explain the fact that you were struggling,
Speaker 11: really to score against Houston. How do you explain the
Speaker 11: fact that you were scored struggling to score against the Charges.
Speaker 11: But I'm supposed to believe you're gonna score against Seattle.
Speaker 11: And then when I think about in jig book, I'm like,
Speaker 11: who the he ate stronger, bigger, faster than nobody, But
Speaker 11: you can't stop he was doing. He was wreaking havoc
Speaker 11: at Ohio State. Now look what he doing in Seattle.
Speaker 11: That's why you let go of TK metcalf as your
Speaker 11: number one option because you could afford and this brother
Speaker 11: been playing lights out. Sam Donald suddenly looked like an
Speaker 11: All world quarterback.
Speaker 4: You know, Kenneth Walk. Everybody talking about shot that being out.
Speaker 11: But let me tell you something, Kenny Walker, he did
Speaker 11: rush for over a thousand yards. He did average four
Speaker 11: point six yards to carry. I'm like, how are we
Speaker 11: sleeping on him? We can't sleep on these brothers. I
Speaker 11: just think they're the most complete team.
Speaker 4: And as I think, the only shot.
Speaker 11: New England has of winning this Super Bowl they have
Speaker 11: to hold Seattle to twenty points or less because I
Speaker 11: don't see them scoring more than twenty.
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, they're gonna have They're gonna have coach some turnovers. Now,
Speaker 2: Sam Darld's been great in the postseason. He's taking care
Speaker 2: of the football. As long as he doesn't revert back
Speaker 2: to what we think and what we've seen him be steven,
Speaker 2: I think they'll be fine. But you know, go back
Speaker 2: and look at every team in the turn in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Whoever's turned the ball over the most, they went home.
Speaker 3: It's good.
Speaker 11: By the way, Drake may six times three lost, fumbled, yes,
Speaker 11: sacked five times each game.
Speaker 4: Oh so, y'all ain't even protecting them. And by the
Speaker 4: way you see I see to get to the ball.
Speaker 4: You see how they said so so you.
Speaker 11: Can run with the football, and he's showing that he
Speaker 11: could do that, particularly on first and second down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they use it on first and second down. So
Speaker 4: I get that part.
Speaker 11: But I'm like this guy, the ain't gonna work again.
Speaker 11: I can't see that happening. The only way is if
Speaker 11: Drake all of a sudden with Booty and Diggs is
Speaker 11: flinging that damn football, and all of a sudden, we
Speaker 11: were watching these cats throw the damn football.
Speaker 4: If I see that, that will change my mind. I
Speaker 4: can't see that.
Speaker 2: But the secondary for seattles so good. Boon and wol exactly,
Speaker 2: wuarrey uh and warr uh. That really good defensive line
Speaker 2: with with d long And and Leonard Williams and those
Speaker 2: got reach man, they're really good. Erniet Jones the fourth
Speaker 2: and he's been a steal. He's been exceptional.
Speaker 4: And the people are pointing to LA.
Speaker 11: You scored thirty eight against them in the regular season
Speaker 11: and the overtime lost when they lost thirty eight thirty seven,
Speaker 11: they gave up twenty seven to LA, you know, in
Speaker 11: the playoffs.
Speaker 4: And I'm going like this, that was pooka nakup out.
Speaker 3: There, Pat catching that dad boy and Davante.
Speaker 11: You ain't got you ain't got that on New England.
Speaker 11: I respect the hell of the Booty and dagsman. You
Speaker 11: ain't that, dude. No not, You're not that dude. That's
Speaker 11: where I'm at with it.
Speaker 2: And I like Drake May but for me and I
Speaker 2: don't have a vote. But if I had a vote,
Speaker 2: I'll vote for Matthew Stafford for MVP.
Speaker 11: He's the only problem I like. See, here's the problem
Speaker 11: I had with Shannon Sharp, you know, or say O,
Speaker 11: Choe this he had this problem all the damn time.
Speaker 4: It's okay to say, Steven there you right, I agree
Speaker 4: with you.
Speaker 11: See he's trying to say he was he was listening
Speaker 11: to me.
Speaker 4: He was listening to me.
Speaker 3: Say that. You say he was.
Speaker 11: Listening to me, say Stafford the damn NV Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 11: he's not forget, he's just but he'll say he'll just
Speaker 11: say it without saying no.
Speaker 3: But but you know, but you know, there have been
Speaker 3: some that said, Drake may.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I don't listen, did Drake made problem? In
Speaker 4: all seriousness?
Speaker 11: New England had the weakest schedule since nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 11: the weakest schedule in the NFL since nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 4: That's what the status Right then you got the Chargers,
Speaker 4: you depleted.
Speaker 11: At your offensive line with two Pro bowlers out and
Speaker 11: slay it in all. You go against Houston, Nico Collins
Speaker 11: is out, shows goes down in the second quarter.
Speaker 3: You go up.
Speaker 11: Against Denver, you got Jarrett Stidham, a backup quarterback who
Speaker 11: had to throw?
Speaker 4: Now is he a backup quarterback? He ain't throw past
Speaker 4: his Charty twenty three?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 11: And then on the top and on top of the
Speaker 11: blizzard came let me come on, you can't a lot
Speaker 11: of luck a.
Speaker 3: Lot of luck either.
Speaker 4: But you know, sometimes Steve and the things have to
Speaker 4: go your way.
Speaker 11: That's fair, where that's fair. But usually that's not what
Speaker 11: I was down in the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 11: Usually in the super Bowl it's about your skill and
Speaker 11: your will.
Speaker 2: In a game like the super Bowl, the momentum. You're
Speaker 2: gonna get two momentums, win only two. It's gonna happen
Speaker 2: whoever gets the momentum first. How much separation can you
Speaker 2: put between you and the team that doesn't have the Momentumy.
Speaker 3: It's interesting.
Speaker 11: I love that question because I think that if you're
Speaker 11: New England, you got to have.
Speaker 4: A ten point cushion.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's enough.
Speaker 11: And I'm saying, and I don't think you.
Speaker 4: I don't think you're gonna get the cushion. That's my point. Now,
Speaker 4: I don't think I.
Speaker 3: Don't think that's enough.
Speaker 2: Because we've we've seen Seattle come back from playing the
Speaker 2: Rams and the Rams had what an eighteen?
Speaker 11: Yeah, but the Rams defense wasn't New England's. That's the
Speaker 11: only thing. New England could get stops. Rams couldn't get
Speaker 11: no stock.
Speaker 1: That's but the question is, see New England's offense ain't
Speaker 1: the Rams offense.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 4: That's what I don't have him win. That's why I
Speaker 4: don't have him win.
Speaker 2: That's the problem. That they can run the ball. I
Speaker 2: like Henderson, I like Stevenson. They can run the football.
Speaker 11: But woof, everybody said I picked the score final score
Speaker 11: thirty one twenty and everybody was looking at me and
Speaker 11: they said, well, you bring it up the defense while
Speaker 11: you got them scoring thirty one points? And I said,
Speaker 11: because I think they're gonna get too many bites at
Speaker 11: the apple because New England's offense isn't gonna be able
Speaker 11: to do. But so much so if you have the
Speaker 11: defense out on the field enough, eventually they gonna get.
Speaker 11: They're gonna get, They're gonna wear out.
Speaker 4: Break Ye, they're gonna break.
Speaker 2: I think it might be a little low scoring than that.
Speaker 2: I might have I might go twenty four to sixteen.
Speaker 11: I think so I got thirty one twenty. I got
Speaker 11: thirty one twenty.
Speaker 3: I can see thirty points simply because the high volume
Speaker 3: was scoring. That set continued to do regardless of who
Speaker 3: they playing.
Speaker 11: By the way that your boy told me, tell you
Speaker 11: he hooked me up with his boyfriends glasses, and I
Speaker 11: want to I when I got the glasses, I bought
Speaker 11: a bunch of them. Oh no, no, no no.
Speaker 4: He got me with the Captain car. He got me.
Speaker 11: I saw him, I saw on my nightcap and I
Speaker 11: was like this, I need a few of those.
Speaker 4: So I went and got him. I wouldn't got him.
Speaker 3: You staying for the no you leaving Sunday morning?
Speaker 6: Good?
Speaker 11: You have a good time, man, Shoot, thanks to you
Speaker 11: at party last night?
Speaker 4: Was no joke, my brother?
Speaker 3: I mean, were you so? When I cut down to Miami,
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear nothing.
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear nothing, no party, and I
Speaker 4: ain't throwing no party. That's right.
Speaker 3: I forgot you down there. Hey, we gotta go to dinner.
Speaker 3: I got it. I'm gonna tell you where we go.
Speaker 11: Okay, that's cool, we'll be good. I'll take you up
Speaker 11: on it then, Okay, I take you serious. I'm that
Speaker 11: sim Vegas. I got you right, such a line line
Speaker 11: of asshole. I mean this, captain, I mean Shaid. I
Speaker 11: can't find Shannon have the damn time. I'm in Vegas.
Speaker 3: You're good?
Speaker 4: You good?
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 4: I'm good? I would call you for hour? Where are
Speaker 4: you at? You know I can't catch them?
Speaker 3: You know, man, I'll be at the bed and Stevie,
Speaker 3: I'll be sweet.
Speaker 11: I am mad at you, but I'm telling you this, Listen.
Speaker 4: I love living in Florida.
Speaker 3: This lovely. You know you don't smoke cigars.
Speaker 11: Huh No, not really, but I smoked a few. I mean,
Speaker 11: I mean, I mean one time, last time. It's been years, actually,
Speaker 11: last time I smoked the cigar I was in. I
Speaker 11: was in a cigar ball with Michael Straan.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 11: But I mean I smoked a feel me because it's cool.
Speaker 1: It's cool when I'm coming back there. I mean you,
Speaker 1: I mean you. I just want to go. I want
Speaker 1: to go get a bite to eat.
Speaker 3: That's it. But you, we ain't gonna go nowhere else.
Speaker 3: I want to go get a bie to eat. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: we ain't go hold on, we ain't gonna go nowhere else. No,
Speaker 3: you might want to know.
Speaker 4: You might want to know. I mean there's a couple
Speaker 4: of spots that.
Speaker 3: I don't want to go.
Speaker 11: Yeah, well, I tell you what I do. I tell
Speaker 11: you what I do. I'll take you to a spot
Speaker 11: to eat. But it ain't just about eating me. You
Speaker 11: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's all it's all in one, it's all one. I'll
Speaker 4: take you to the spot.
Speaker 11: Why can't I get friends that support me? Where can
Speaker 11: I get friend of this? We are supporting, this came
Speaker 11: out for you. I mean, we're looking out for you.
Speaker 11: We really are.
Speaker 4: We really are.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I mean, we really are. We got you covered? You understand?
Speaker 3: Why why do I Why do I need any other
Speaker 3: type of friends?
Speaker 4: But I've tried to It's okay to live.
Speaker 3: You're not living. You are alive, but you're not living.
Speaker 3: I continue, I.
Speaker 11: Can't you say you going and home? You're working and
Speaker 11: going home. You're working from home half the time.
Speaker 3: Like that.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 11: I bet there's days that go by that you don't
Speaker 11: leave a house.
Speaker 3: If I if I don't go work out? Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: I work out.
Speaker 4: You mean to work out?
Speaker 11: You mean you don't have a Jimmy your house.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 11: I got, I got a show, I got two gyms
Speaker 11: in my house. All right, this, so why do you
Speaker 11: got to go to work out? But I but you know,
Speaker 11: I like so if you like to mingle.
Speaker 2: No, if I don't leave my house to go work out,
Speaker 2: I would literally be in my house two three weeks
Speaker 2: at a fact.
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 11: I could never do that. Now I've improved. I could
Speaker 11: stay in the house for a couple of days, two
Speaker 11: or three days without home like the crib.
Speaker 2: I got cod But when when COVID happened, I ain't
Speaker 2: miss with me.
Speaker 3: I couldn't.
Speaker 4: Couldn't you gotta go nowhere?
Speaker 3: Perfect, Wow, I got I gotta leave the house. I
Speaker 3: got to go.
Speaker 11: I got I got to You gotta go out, you
Speaker 11: gotta eat, you gotta walk around, you gotta you gotta
Speaker 11: feel a fresh air outside.
Speaker 4: You got to do that.
Speaker 11: I don't give a damn if it's me getting in
Speaker 11: my car to drive to the.
Speaker 4: Damn store or something, just to get out. And yeah,
Speaker 4: Philip Brie, Yeah, in.
Speaker 3: Your car and drive to the store in Miami.
Speaker 4: Yeah man, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my story. I'm
Speaker 4: sticking to it. That's my story. And sticking to it.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you that right now. I mean, that's what
Speaker 4: it is. That's what it is. It is lovely.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 11: You know, when we say Miami, let's be very clear,
Speaker 11: we're not really talking about Miami.
Speaker 4: You talked about all it's surrounded Mark, Yes.
Speaker 11: All the stuff around within the thirty to forty five
Speaker 11: minute radius, all around it. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 11: All around it. Beautiful Lauderdale, the Coral Gables, that's all it's.
Speaker 4: It's all beautiful. It's it's it's.
Speaker 3: It's got here, man.
Speaker 4: It's just a it's just a special thing. You gotta
Speaker 4: come on down.
Speaker 3: I'm coming down, man. But I told you what I
Speaker 3: wanted my crib very private, privately.
Speaker 11: You ain't got you ain't got to worry about nothing.
Speaker 11: You got worry about being found. I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 11: I'm trying to tell you you ain't got to worry
Speaker 11: about nothing. You go to the noise, it ain't at
Speaker 11: your doorstep. That's the key. That's the key. Don't go
Speaker 11: to the you don't have the noise at your doorstep.
Speaker 11: Go to it like that. That way you can stay
Speaker 11: away from it. When it's time you gotta do I'm
Speaker 11: trying to tell you Steve A.
Speaker 3: Smith.
Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you man, congratulations and everything.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Appreciate the serious show, the Steven A. Smith's show, the
Speaker 2: big deal at ESPN. You got a bro Appreciate it,
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, and I want to tell you, yes, sir,
Speaker 2: I appreciate the support a lot of a lot. When
Speaker 2: a lot of people ran away. You read to me, no,
Speaker 2: hell no, and I appreciate it, and I hope you
Speaker 2: keep them away. And it was no excuse for people
Speaker 2: to be that one. I saw you, you know, I
Speaker 2: saw you, and I talk all the time. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I got a number of love for y'all,
Speaker 2: both of y'all. Proud of both of y'all. Keep doing
Speaker 2: what you think.
Speaker 11: But all these people listen, man, when you up here,
Speaker 11: they with you, you know exactly. And then and then
Speaker 11: something happened, and what you do? You you just sat
Speaker 11: up there and you forgot that that was supposed to
Speaker 11: be your boy, because there was never your boys.
Speaker 4: You're right, they were never your boys.
Speaker 11: Something to kick rocks with.
Speaker 3: No sho damn right. Appreciated broke add the best juve.
Speaker 3: Appreciated