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Speaker 2: War, all that and so much more coming up tonight.

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Speaker 1: And I'm right, the lies and the lack of accountability,

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Speaker 1: What they did getting our thirteen guys killed, I'm never

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Speaker 1: No responsibility, no accountability of it. Now, instead of honoring them,

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Speaker 3: Now, how do you know everybody says you could have

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Speaker 1: Watching the bridge collapse in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: I watched that bridge collapse.

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Speaker 2: That's a fact. And yet he just the truth isn't

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Speaker 1: And on top of everything else, he continues to make

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Speaker 5: I think I messed up.

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Speaker 4: Y'all please vote for me?

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Speaker 1: I see the Gavin Newso train coming, and I see

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Speaker 2: Gavin news Some doing his TV.

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Speaker 1: saying Dianne Feinstein needs to be booted out of office

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Speaker 2: Why would they be doing that? Wow, clear out a

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Speaker 1: Governor hairjel there telling you right now, the system they

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Speaker 1: four indictments for Trump and.

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Speaker 2: Say, new we got this, guys, We're good to go.

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Speaker 1: That's not how these people think the system is going

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Speaker 1: bring in Gavin Newsom.

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Speaker 1: About the system and how evil it is and so

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Speaker 1: You have to take steps to protect yourself financially. These

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Speaker 2: God forbid. I hope I'm wrong about that. So what

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Speaker 1: precious metals. There's nothing else. Nothing else lasts like that.

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Speaker 1: Remember that court document that leaked. But the day before

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Speaker 1: the other crap going on. Is the great Julie Kelly.

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Speaker 1: She's the author of the book January sixth.

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Speaker 2: Julie, I'm really torn right now because I love you.

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Speaker 6: I call myself the Debbie Downer of democracy. Like people

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Speaker 6: She did say fictitious. I mean that is accurate. Fanny

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Speaker 6: Willis is entire ninety one page a racketeering indictment against

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump and eighteen of his associates is completely biges.

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Speaker 6: She lists Jesse one hundred and sixty one overt acts

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Speaker 2: It's funny you bring this up, Julie.

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Speaker 1: So she's talking to somebody about this this morning and

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Speaker 5: It really is.

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Speaker 6: And you know, Willis would not answer the question the

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Speaker 5: There could be a lot of tension there.

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Speaker 6: What would be interesting is how the media interprets, or

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Speaker 1: Julie, what do we know, if anything, about the judge

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I think that he's a newly appointed judge. He might

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Speaker 5: Chuckkin right now.

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Speaker 6: But I can assume, considering he's in a heavily Democrat

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Speaker 2: Julie, we'll get back to Jack Smith in a moment.

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Speaker 2: I just I want your opinion.

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Speaker 1: On this because I was going over everything in my

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Speaker 6: Am I crazy, No, you're not crazy. And a lot

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Speaker 6: which is again goes sort of back to why Jack

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Speaker 6: do it and bring this seditious conspiracy charge because of

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Speaker 6: also the belief that seditious conspiracy is tantamount to insurrection

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Speaker 6: trying to overthrow the government. And now it automatically disqualify

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump from running for office. But look, we see

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Speaker 2: Have, what a country we have? All right?

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Speaker 1: I thought one more thing about this Jack Smith. I

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Speaker 2: He's got access to everything.

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Speaker 6: Why right, Everything, drafts, dms, deleted tweets I believe are

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Speaker 6: part of this. And Jesse, I have a piece up

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Speaker 6: on my substeck from last week that goes into this

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Speaker 6: sealed hearing, sealed order. And Jesse, this is why DOJ

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Speaker 6: and then Jack Smith conducted the entire classified documents case

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Speaker 6: more than a rubber stamp for the Department of Justice.

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Speaker 5: So DOJ force Twitter.

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Speaker 6: They gave them a subpoena seeking all the data for

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Speaker 5: Twitter tried to put up a fight.

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Speaker 6: In addition to the subpoena, they wanted a non disclosure order,

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Speaker 6: which would have prevented Twitter from telling the former president

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Speaker 6: You can't just go randomly get whatever information you want

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Speaker 5: But here is DOJ.

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Speaker 6: Jacksmith working hand in hand with Beryl Howell, who not

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Speaker 6: only forced Twitter to produce the data, Beryl Howell imposed

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Speaker 6: even though DOJ. Jacksmith, it's that office finally got the

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Speaker 6: subpoena to Twitter two days before the deadline. This is punishment.

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Speaker 6: It is punitive, not just for Donald Trump. But keep

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Speaker 6: in mind this happened after Elon Musk took over Twitter

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Speaker 6: and she basically said, oh, you just bought it for

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Speaker 5: Fine. That's the sort of people that we have in

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Speaker 5: Washington d C.

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Speaker 1: Good agree, Julie, thank you, we'll talk to you again.

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Speaker 2: Grim Reaper.

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Speaker 5: I'm always here for that. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's uh, speaking of corruption, let's dig into

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Speaker 1: You know, As an unintelligent person, I'm not really keen

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Speaker 1: even someone like me has noticed. Joe Biden, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you've heard, is in serious trouble.

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Speaker 2: This Hunter Biden stuff is serious.

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Speaker 1: And remember the Hunter Biden stuff is Joe Biden's stuff.

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Speaker 1: They are attached because it was Joe's.

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Speaker 2: Business, not Hunter's business.

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Speaker 1: And yet every time some bad news pops up about this,

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Speaker 1: they seem to do something else to Donald Trump, to

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Speaker 1: bumple Grandpa poopy Pants out of the news and usher

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Speaker 1: in a news cycle for Trump.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's my imagination.

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Speaker 1: Let's ask someone smart about it joining me now, Avida

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Speaker 1: Duffy Alfonso, writer for the Federalist Avida Man. It sure

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Speaker 1: seems like I guess maybe it's just a coincidence.

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Speaker 2: It seems like this happens a lot.

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Speaker 5: Though, Oh it does.

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Speaker 7: And the vast majority of the time, you have a

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Speaker 7: So anything that could potentially make the president.

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Speaker 5: Look bad is immediately.

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Speaker 7: Followed up with another Trump indictment or investigation.

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Speaker 1: Avida, you wrote a piece for The Federalist that was

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Speaker 1: honestly eye opening and hart king the Vladimir Putin, famous

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Speaker 1: For as long as they're trying to send Trump away

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Speaker 2: But this is very clearly what we've become.

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Speaker 7: Oh and it's a ridiculous story, right, because you have

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Speaker 7: Alexi Navalni, who is the primary political opponent to Vladimir Putin,

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Speaker 7: the persecution of President Trump, who's Biden's primary political opponent,

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Speaker 7: and they're condemning Vladimir Putin with zero awareness for the irony.

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Speaker 7: One of them is Anthony Blinkenn, who is the one

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Speaker 7: who you know famously interfered in the twenty twenty election

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Speaker 7: by orchestrating that letter from intelligence officials saying that they

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Speaker 7: believed the Hunter Biden laptop, which very much was real,

448
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Speaker 7: was actually Russian disinformation. This man is condemning Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 7: and staying silent on all of the Trump indictments.

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Speaker 2: It's absolutely ridiculous. People asked me.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times for a book to read because

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Speaker 1: I love history books and things like that, and one

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Speaker 1: of the ones I always recommend to them is The

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Speaker 1: Last Crusade. There are many great books written about the

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Speaker 1: Spanish Civil War.

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Speaker 2: Last Crusade is one of my favorites.

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Speaker 1: But I know this is a subject you're passionate about,

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Speaker 1: and in light of the fact the FBI is currently

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Speaker 1: infiltrating the Catholic Church in America, maybe you should help.

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Speaker 2: Us, help bone us up on the issue a little bit. So.

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Speaker 7: The Spanish Civil War is actually something that I learned

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Speaker 7: about in high school, but I learned it from the

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Speaker 7: perspective of the Communists, which is usually how American history

464
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Speaker 7: has been twisted around these days. And the lucky thing

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Speaker 7: for me is I knew the real history because my

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Speaker 7: family actually was persecuted during the Spanish Civil War for

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Speaker 7: being Catholics and for being opponents of communism.

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Speaker 5: I had an.

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Speaker 7: Extended family member who was a priest who was actually murdered.

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Speaker 7: Others in my family were imprisoned by communist radicals simply

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Speaker 7: because they were they were Catholic, and they were opposing

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Speaker 7: communist ideology. And I think the same thing is really

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Speaker 7: happening here in the United States. And this is why

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Speaker 7: history is so key to no history to not allow

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Speaker 7: it to be twisted by the left, which is which

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Speaker 7: it is in America. What's happening right now is a

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Speaker 7: similar demonization of Catholics. And it's not because they really

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Speaker 7: believe sincerely that Catholics are white supremacist, which is what

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Speaker 7: the FBI was alleging. It's because Catholicism stands in opposition

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Speaker 7: to authoritarianism and really to to this socialist market economy

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Speaker 7: that our government is really spiraling us into.

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Speaker 2: Vida.

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Speaker 1: The church as a whole Catholic Christian, whatever it may be,

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Speaker 1: they have failed, in my opinion, in taking a firm

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Speaker 1: enough stand. They've been very well hands off. Well, hey,

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Speaker 1: let's just turn the other cheek. It's been a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of that for virtually my entire forty two years

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Speaker 1: on this planet. The Church is going to have to

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Speaker 1: change that because the war has already been declared on them,

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Speaker 1: whether they want it where they want to believe.

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Speaker 2: That or not.

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Speaker 7: We have a we have a sickness in the church.

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Speaker 7: That's that is one hundred percent correct. And I wrote

494
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Speaker 7: an article a while ago when the FBI memo came out,

495
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Speaker 7: only one bishop stood out against it. Then the American

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Speaker 7: Catholic Conference of Bishops stood it against it and said, hey,

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Speaker 7: this is not okay. You can't be infiltrating our churches

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Speaker 7: and surveilling our parishioners.

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Speaker 2: And the rest of them were remaining silent.

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Speaker 7: Meanwhile, they're preaching about about LGBTQ issues right there are

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Speaker 7: there are literal priests and bishops who are who are

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Speaker 7: you know, taking up the torch with that and I

503
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Speaker 7: legal immigration, they're they're they're supporting it and actually encouraging it.

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Speaker 7: Are our bishops have a real problem and their job

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Speaker 7: is is to shepherd their sheep and to and to

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Speaker 7: defend the faithful, and they have completely abandoned the faithful.

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Speaker 7: And I think it may have something to do with

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Speaker 7: the type of Catholics that are being targeted by the FBI.

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Speaker 7: It's specifically traditional Catholics, those who attend Latin Mass, those

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Speaker 7: who hold more conservative viewpoints. And I think unfortunately many

511
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Speaker 7: of the bishops don't hold conservative viewpoints and are okay

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Speaker 7: with seeing Catholics that are more conservative and traditional being persecuted.

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Speaker 7: And the problem is that it might be traditional Catholics now,

514
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Speaker 7: but it'll eventually get downstream to them. And it's everybody's problem,

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Speaker 7: not just traditional Catholics.

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Speaker 2: What is the problem with these guys?

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Speaker 1: Are they weak or are they too stupid to realize

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Speaker 1: they're coming for them one day too?

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Speaker 7: I think there I think I think it's a combination

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Speaker 7: of both. And I also think that there's there's some

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Speaker 7: politics in it, right. I mean, being a bishop is

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Speaker 7: theoretically a position of influence, and I think that they

523
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Speaker 7: like rubbing shoulders with powerful Democrats. They don't like upsetting

524
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Speaker 7: people like Nancy Pelosi or Joe Biden doing the right thing,

525
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Speaker 7: saying hey, if you are, you know, supporting child care,

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Speaker 7: you should not be receiving communion on Communion on Sundays.

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Speaker 5: They don't. They don't care about that.

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Speaker 7: They don't care about really defending the church because I

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Speaker 7: think that perhaps power and influence has got into their

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Speaker 7: heads and unfortunately they will, they will have to answer

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Speaker 7: to that one day. Because if there was a famous

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Speaker 7: quote that said, you know, the road to Hell is

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Speaker 7: led by this is uh, you know, littered with the

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Speaker 7: skulls of dead bishops, I'm probably butchering them with corruptor

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Speaker 7: or or sinful bishops.

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Speaker 5: So I'm butchering the phrase.

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Speaker 7: But it's it's really their responsibility to be defending the faithful,

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Speaker 7: and they're not doing it. And I think that there

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Speaker 7: is definitely corruption and sin that's at the heart of

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Speaker 7: their inaction.

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Speaker 2: Vita, thank you, come back soon.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 8: Ohios came out in an off year election and literally

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Speaker 8: rejected what Republicans elected officials were trying to do, what

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Speaker 8: special interests we're trying to do in the state, which

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Speaker 8: is basically weaken voter's rights, weaken the rights for voters

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Speaker 8: in the state. When you think about how women in

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Speaker 8: Ohio are are going to figure out they're going to

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Speaker 8: vote to decide if women in Ohio is going to

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Speaker 8: have the right, the freedom to make a decision on

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Speaker 8: their reproductive right to make a decision on their healthcare.

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Speaker 8: So this is again a win for our democracy.

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Speaker 1: It is physically painful listening to courn diversity higher try

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Speaker 1: talking about her abuse of the word literally there.

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Speaker 2: I actually more want to focus on what.

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Speaker 1: Actually did happen in Ohio with my friend Josh Hammer

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Speaker 1: of the Josh Hammer Show. Josh Okay, buddy, Obviously I'm

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Speaker 1: hard on the right. Often I feel we are way

581
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Speaker 1: too complacent, way too way too soft, way too weak,

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Speaker 1: way too often. We had an election in Ohio, an

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Speaker 1: important election, everyone's supposedly mad about Joe Biden and the Democrats,

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Speaker 1: and then we had an off.

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Speaker 2: Year election and Republicans.

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Speaker 1: Did what they always do and they sat at home

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Speaker 1: while Democrats wentn't voted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, look, Jesse always meant to be with you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 9: So Issue one was voted down by a fifty seven

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Speaker 9: to forty three margin at the Ohio ballot box last Tuesday. Now,

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Speaker 9: it's important to note that the word abortion, the word life,

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Speaker 9: none of that was mentioned anywhere in the actual text

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Speaker 9: of Issue one, the actual issue that was voted on.

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Speaker 5: So kind of backtrack a little.

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Speaker 9: Ohio's voting on a separate ballot box referendum this November,

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Speaker 9: Ohio wins are going to go to the polls to

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Speaker 9: decide whether or not they want to legalize abortion in

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Speaker 9: Ohio California style put in a rite up through the

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Speaker 9: second third trimester.

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Speaker 8: Who knows.

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Speaker 9: I mean, it would really be quite horrific if that passes.

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Speaker 9: But in Ohio currently, you actually only need a fifty

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Speaker 9: plus one bare majority of voters to support a referendum

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Speaker 9: to amend the state constitution. So Issue one, what the

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Speaker 9: voters voted on, would have raised the threshold for men

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Speaker 9: in the constitution from fifty plus one to sixty percent,

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Speaker 9: not even two thirds, just sixty and that is actually

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Speaker 9: well lost. But because of the context of this vote

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Speaker 9: that is to come in November, both sides, the pro

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Speaker 9: life side and the pro abortion side, treated Issue one

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Speaker 9: as a proxy and you know, unfortunately it did lose

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Speaker 9: by a margin of fifty seven to forty three. That

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Speaker 9: doesn't necessarily mean that Ohioans are going to vote to

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Speaker 9: legalize abortion in California style of this November. Pro lifers

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Speaker 9: our side can absolutely still win on that.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 9: Having spoken with a number of friends who are on

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Speaker 9: the ground there in Ohio, so some pro life you know,

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Speaker 9: solid right wing friends, many of them are feeling kind

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Speaker 9: of gloomy and somewhat doomer at this time after this vote.

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Speaker 9: But you know it's time to kind of try at

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Speaker 9: least to win. I mean, we can win this fight

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Speaker 9: in Ohio if we put our lines to it, if

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Speaker 9: the dollars start flowing in. The pro life style was

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Speaker 9: out spend three to one on Issue one, which is

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Speaker 9: obviously is partially why we lost, although I think another

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Speaker 9: reason why Issue one loss. It's kind of human psychology.

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Speaker 9: I mean, think about, like what the status quo is.

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Speaker 9: I mean, status quo bias is a thing. I mean,

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Speaker 9: in order to vote to change something, you have to

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Speaker 9: first be persuaded that the status quo is wrong. And

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Speaker 9: the status quo in Ohio was fifty plus one two amend.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, tough loss, but we're not out of the

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Speaker 9: game yet. We're gonna have another chance this November.

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Speaker 1: You wrote a piece talking about changing hearts and minds

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Speaker 1: when it comes to abortion. There's no question about that.

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Speaker 1: We have to, as you just alluded, to change the

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Speaker 1: status quo. We have to change what people have normalized,

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Speaker 1: what has sadly been normalized in this country.

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Speaker 2: So how do we begin?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Jesse, this is a very This is a big

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Speaker 9: issue for me. I know it's a big issue for

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Speaker 9: you too. I've been passionate about this issue for a

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Speaker 9: very long time. My first year of law school, I

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Speaker 9: founded the Law Students for a Life student group because

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Speaker 9: it had been previously moribund. I have marched for Marchers

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Speaker 9: of Life, Marches for Life, excuse me, in sub zero

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Speaker 9: temperatures in Chicago, for example, where I went to law school.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I've been passionate about this issue for a

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Speaker 9: very very long time. And you know, overturning Roe versus

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Speaker 9: Way the Dobbs decision last year was a tremendous, tremendous celebration.

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Speaker 9: But you know, the point of my column, especially in

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Speaker 9: the aftermath of this loss in Ohio, was basically just

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Speaker 9: trying to remind people, especially my own side, our side

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Speaker 9: of the pro life side, that it took forty nine years.

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Speaker 9: I mean, it took way too long, but it took

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Speaker 9: forty nine years for Roe versus Way to finally be

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Speaker 9: overturned in the Dobs case, and the notion that we're

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Speaker 9: going to you know, abolish abortion in America, which is

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Speaker 9: the obvious ultimate culmination of the pro life movement. That's

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Speaker 9: certainly what I support. The idea that we're going to

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Speaker 9: get there anytime soon. It's fanciful. It's obviously not going

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Speaker 9: to happen. This This unfortunately for being sober minded, he

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Speaker 9: is going to be a very long slog. And a

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Speaker 9: lot of this has to do with what do you ask,

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Speaker 9: which is the actual work of convincing people as to

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Speaker 9: the wrongness of abortion. Now, there are some wonderful organizations

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Speaker 9: that are trying to do exactly that. So for example,

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Speaker 9: I wrote this column partially is a column of course

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Speaker 9: with pars We also as part of a speech that

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Speaker 9: I gave this past weekend at in Utah for a

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Speaker 9: pro life state lawmaker Summits sponsored by Live Action. That's

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Speaker 9: Leila Rose's real They do phenomenal work. And one of

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Speaker 9: the things that Live Action does so well, they're very

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Speaker 9: prolific on social media, whether it's Instagram, Twitter.

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Speaker 2: They have these viral.

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Speaker 9: Videos just talking about the nature of the unborn child

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Speaker 9: and how that changes across the entire gestational period, and

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Speaker 9: a lot there's a lot of anecdotal evidence Jesse that

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Speaker 9: when you actually when you explain to people what an

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Speaker 9: abortion is, whether you know whether it involves the actual

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Speaker 9: dismemberment of limbs, the suction of the human brain. I mean,

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Speaker 9: just loved some barbaric, atrocious stuff. Increasingly, of course, at

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Speaker 9: later stages of a pregnancy, when you actually explain this

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Speaker 9: to people, when you explain that a new DNA code,

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Speaker 9: a new genetic code is actually formed at the fertilization

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Speaker 9: of an egg, that an embryo is therefore inherently worthy

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Speaker 9: of protection under a law. When you actually explain this

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Speaker 9: using science, for instance, then in my own capacity, I

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Speaker 9: found that some people can be persuaded. But it's going

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Speaker 9: to be a very very hard, long slog. We have

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Speaker 9: to start talking about this sort of thing in K

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Speaker 9: through twelve education. By the way, you know North Dakota.

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Speaker 9: It was either earlier this year or last year, but

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Speaker 9: North Dakota passed a bill where they actually took from

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Speaker 9: that group Live Action. Live Action has this thing called

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Speaker 9: Baby Olivia, and they track Baby Olivia throughout the entire pregnancy,

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Speaker 9: and North Dakota basically adopted that into its curriculum, so

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Speaker 9: students in their public schools in North Dakota learn about

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Speaker 9: Baby Olivia and how Baby Olivia changes throughout entire pregnancy.

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Speaker 9: That's what's going to involve. It's going to involve a

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Speaker 9: lot of difficult conversations, but also just education.

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Speaker 1: Frankly, so let's have a talk. Here was Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: talking about abortion, and some.

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Speaker 10: Of your allies on Capitol Hill said they want to

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Speaker 10: introduce legislation when it comes to banning abortion.

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Speaker 2: If they send it to your desk, would you sign it.

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Speaker 10: Some people are at six weeks, some people are at

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Speaker 10: three weeks. President Trump is going to make a determination

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Speaker 10: what he thinks is great for the country and what's

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Speaker 10: fair for the country. But the fact that I was

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Speaker 10: able to terminate Roe V. Wade after fifty years of trying,

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Speaker 10: they work. For fifty years, I've never seen anything like it.

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Speaker 10: They work, and I was even I was so honored

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Speaker 10: to have done it. We are in a very good

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Speaker 10: negotiating position right now only because of what I was

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Speaker 10: able to do. And remember this again, you talk about radicalism.

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Speaker 10: People that will kill a baby in the ninth month,

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Speaker 10: or the eighth month, or the seventh month, or after

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Speaker 10: the baby is born, they're the radicals, not the program.

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Speaker 2: Josh.

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Speaker 1: That's a good answer, kind of right, that's a good answer.

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Speaker 9: It's an okay answer. I wouldn't say it's a great answer.

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Speaker 9: So you know, some people Jesse on our side, had

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Speaker 9: this idea that overturning Roe versus Wade was all about

727
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Speaker 9: just returning him to the States, and their confusion I

728
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Speaker 9: think in that respect is somewhat justified because our side

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Speaker 9: has not actually always been clear about this, but in

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Speaker 9: many respects we actually to an extent, have been clear.

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Speaker 9: I mean, the Republican Party platform going back as far

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Speaker 9: as nineteen eighty four. I believe the Reagan Bush reelection

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Speaker 9: takeom has called for the abolition of abortion America. And

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Speaker 9: the claim, which is the claim that I have come

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Speaker 9: to be a proponent of at least over the past

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Speaker 9: three four years or so, is actually that, as a

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Speaker 9: matter of constitutional interpretation, if we want to go there,

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Speaker 9: the Fourteenth Amendment's equal protection clause, which calls for the

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Speaker 9: equal protection of all persons under law, properly construed, that

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Speaker 9: actually should be applied to unborn persons, who we now know,

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Speaker 9: due to science and XYZ are actual persons. So therefore,

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Speaker 9: whether it's Congress legislating under the Fourteenth Amendment Section five

743
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Speaker 9: or the Supreme Court is getting Fourteenth Amendment constitutional interpretation

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Speaker 9: correctly in theory, abortion should actually be abolish in America today.

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Speaker 9: So having said all that as context, I think this

746
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Speaker 9: idea that the federal government cannot get involved, Congress cannot legislate,

747
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Speaker 9: the President cannot do anything, I think that's very silly.

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Speaker 9: Now it is simply true as a matter of practical,

749
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Speaker 9: day to day political reality that for the time being,

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Speaker 9: most of these fights absolutely are you know, transpiring at

751
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Speaker 9: the state level. That's totally true. And you know, given

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Speaker 9: that at this current time in the year twenty twenty three,

753
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Speaker 9: the remedy for Alabama is not going to be the

754
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Speaker 9: same remedy for California. That's just the nature of federalism.

755
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Speaker 9: But we have to be working up towards the ultimate federalization,

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Speaker 9: the ultimate nationalization of this issue. I think back Jesse,

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Speaker 9: if I can make a provocative analogy to Abraham Lincoln

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Speaker 9: and the debate over chattel slavery, which in many ways

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Speaker 9: was the predecessor to abortion from my perspective, so you know,

760
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Speaker 9: going back then, I mean slavery was what abortion is today.

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Speaker 9: It is a treatment of human beings as nothing other

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Speaker 9: than disposable property. Whether it was the dread Scott decision

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Speaker 9: in eighteen fifty seven, or row versus Weight in nineteen

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Speaker 9: seventy three. Both of these horrible practices were at one

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Speaker 9: point in American history called a constitutional quote unquote right.

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Speaker 9: And from that perspective, I think back to the Lincoln

767
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Speaker 9: Douglas debates of eighteen fifty eight, where time and again,

768
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Speaker 9: you know, Stephen Douglas would say, oh, popular sovereignty, Let

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Speaker 9: the people decide. You know, if this state of this

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Speaker 9: territory wants to legalize slavery, so be it. It's not

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Speaker 9: your decision to make. And Lincoln came over the top

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Speaker 9: and said, no, it's actually not true that there are

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Speaker 9: some things that we should simply leave to a majoritarian vote,

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Speaker 9: to the direct democracy vote. There are some things that

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Speaker 9: scream a solution on a broader level because it implicates

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Speaker 9: fundamental human rights, fundamental inherent human dignity, and substantive justice,

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Speaker 9: what is right and what is wrong. So ultimately this

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Speaker 9: cannot be resolved at the state level abortion, even though

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Speaker 9: for the time being it is. So that's why I

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Speaker 9: think what we heard from the foreign president there was

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Speaker 9: an only okay answer, because I think he misses that

782
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Speaker 9: broader point.

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Speaker 2: Josh, I love it, buddy, keep going come back soon.

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Speaker 2: You bet all right, don't We're not done.

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Speaker 1: We have to light the mood. There is a glorious

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Speaker 1: light in the mood coming your way. You're going to

787
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Speaker 1: be smiling. Ear to ear, trust me on this one. Now,

788
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Speaker 1: something else that makes a smile ear to ear or

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Speaker 1: our dogs they do.

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Speaker 2: You get home.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you've had a bad day, doesn't

792
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Speaker 1: matter if you screwed.

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Speaker 2: Up that day. No, we all do that.

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Speaker 1: It's from time to time you come home, and that

795
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Speaker 1: dog's going to be right there, dying for your attention,

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Speaker 1: loving on you, and they become part of the family

797
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Speaker 1: and we want them around forever. But we don't feed

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Speaker 1: them proper nutrition.

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Speaker 2: It's not our fault. We don't know.

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Speaker 1: I never knew that dog food was dead food, that

801
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Speaker 1: there was no nutrition in it, that they kill everything

802
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Speaker 1: in it.

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Speaker 2: That's why it's brown. Did you know that you have

804
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Speaker 2: to give your dog nutrition? In other ways? Rough greens

805
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Speaker 2: get your.

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Speaker 1: Dog everything he needs everything, digest of ensigns, vitamins, minerals,

807
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Speaker 1: omega oils. You will see physical differences in your dog.

808
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: My dog used to have digestive problems after every meal.

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Speaker 2: No more. Doesn't happen. Thank you, rough Greens. Try a

810
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Speaker 2: free bag. See a difference in your dog.

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Speaker 1: Go to roughgreens dot com slash Jessie for a free bag.

812
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Speaker 1: All you pay for is a shipping.

813
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Speaker 2: Or you can call them eight three three three three

814
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Speaker 2: my dog. We'll be back.

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Speaker 1: I can't stand these communists protesters that block the road.

816
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Speaker 1: This is something about those videos where they're blocking people

817
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Speaker 1: in traffic. I remember that one mom had her daughter,

818
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Speaker 1: was trying to get her to the hospital and they

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Speaker 1: wouldn't let her through.

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Speaker 2: It's just, Oh, I can't stand communists.

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Speaker 1: So when something terrible happens to these people, I am

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Speaker 1: going to bring it to you because it makes me

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Speaker 1: smile and it makes me laugh. Before I do that,

824
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Speaker 1: let's do this though. Something else makes me smile. Dogs, well,

825
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Speaker 1: my dogs specifically, and I hate when I see dogs

826
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Speaker 1: have been abandoned.

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Speaker 2: Happens all the time. In fact, my oldest son had

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Speaker 2: picked him.

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Speaker 1: Up from cross country practice last night. Side of the

830
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Speaker 1: road there was a dog. Don't know whether it was

831
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Speaker 1: lost or abandoned, but there it was trying to figure.

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Speaker 2: Out what to do.

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Speaker 1: I love Delta Rescue because they are the largest no

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Speaker 1: kill care for life animal shelter in the world take

835
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Speaker 1: these animals and they bring them in. And it's not

836
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Speaker 1: just that they don't kill them, they care for them.

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Speaker 1: They can only do this with your support. If that's

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Speaker 1: the kind of thing you like. Delta Rescue dot org.

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Speaker 1: Give what you can's all tax deductible, Delta Rescue dot org.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, protester got in the street. My

841
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Speaker 2: man found a solution. I'll see them all