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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: It's almost Famous podcast. We are here breaking down the

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Speaker 2: Golden Bachelorette. This is a great episode, but actually I

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Speaker 2: wanted to start because this episode will come out probably

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Speaker 2: the same day that Florida is affected by Hurricane Milton,

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Speaker 2: and I just want to take a second and say,

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Speaker 2: you know, there, obviously there's nothing a human can do,

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Speaker 2: but we're thinking of you, and we're actively working on

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Speaker 2: ways right now to help raise funds that are going

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Speaker 2: to be essential to the recovery and kind of clean

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Speaker 2: up efforts, and we'll be talking about that more here

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Speaker 2: in the upcoming days. We're thinking about all of you

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Speaker 2: because we are recording this the day before Milton has hit,

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Speaker 2: but this will come out on the day it has

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Speaker 2: probably hit.

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Speaker 3: So scary, so awful. I feel so bad for everyone.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's a really scary thing. Obviously, my parents

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Speaker 2: are in Santabel, Florida. They're not there right now.

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Speaker 3: They've they drive out, they fly out.

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Speaker 2: UH they were gonna go down Monday and UH Santabel

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Speaker 2: has had a mandatory evacuation, so they stayed kind of

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Speaker 2: outside UH in Indiana, waiting for this to pass, and

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Speaker 2: then they're going to go down as soon as the

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Speaker 2: hurricane passes, but all their friends are, you know away. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: two years ago, this kind of area was struck Fort Meyer,

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Speaker 2: Santa Bell, that area was struck by a hurricane, leaving

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Speaker 2: just devastation everywhere. It's a really hard thing to process.

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Speaker 2: And so this one obviously is going to go probably

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Speaker 2: all across central Florida. Yeah, and it's going to affect

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Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of people. And it's just a very

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Speaker 2: kind of sobering and very scary thing as this, as

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Speaker 2: this you know, monstrous storm sits in the ocean and

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Speaker 2: everybody's just kind of waiting to see the whats so.

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Speaker 4: Scary it's saying that they're saying it's like the biggest

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Speaker 4: hurricane to hit in the US and record history.

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Speaker 2: Could be. Yeah, it hasn't hit yet. Obviously when we're

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Speaker 2: recording this, it hasn't hit, could be, and it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be devastating. So our thoughts are with you. We are

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Speaker 2: we're not doing this to get praise or admiration, but

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Speaker 2: we are finding ways for the almost famous listeners to

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Speaker 2: contribute to the efforts of clean up. Obviously, I sit

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Speaker 2: on the board of an organization called Project Hope that

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Speaker 2: does disaster clean up, one of the top disaster clean

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Speaker 2: up organizations in the US. They're already there, kind of

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Speaker 3: What do they do? Where do they go while they're waiting?

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Speaker 2: Just hotels that seem to be safe, more inlay, higher up,

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Speaker 2: and then as soon as the hurricane hits, they'll deploy

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Speaker 2: and send all resources available to partner with other organizations.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of the cool thing about NGOs, you know,

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Speaker 2: being competitive is not exactly helpful or useful in these moments,

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Speaker 2: and so they'll partner together to do as much as

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Speaker 2: they can. And we'll continue to talk about it here

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Speaker 2: at the Almost Famous podcast. But to switch gears, we

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Speaker 2: do have a Golden Bachelorette episode to break down. This

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Speaker 2: was a good episode. Actually, you said it before we

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Speaker 2: even started. You said this was a good episode. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I want to hear why. There was everything in it.

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Speaker 4: There was humor with that Chippendale's date, there was well,

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Speaker 4: I think the other I think the other component that

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Speaker 4: made it the best for me was that I think

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Speaker 4: there's a clear, clear front runner in Chock now, and

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Speaker 4: I'm happy that she might be finding her person, so

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Speaker 4: I think there was love and lightheartedness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the Chippendales comes up a lot during the

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Speaker 2: Bachelor franchise. It is interesting how often it comes up.

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Speaker 2: I do think, Yeah, it is fun with the Golden Show, though,

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Speaker 2: because it isn't that it doesn't feel as risk Ay

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Speaker 2: is that? Am I wrong on that? Like, it just

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Speaker 4: It's way more funny unless guys trying to actually be sexy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it's fun. It's funny. The show wraps it

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Speaker 2: up with a good cause. Caitlin Bristow is there to

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Speaker 2: guest host this this date, We're gonna actually have Kaitlyn

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Speaker 2: experiencing while this Chippendale's deal is going on.

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Speaker 4: This might have been the most fun day she's ever

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Speaker 4: been a part of, So I like to know. Sure,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure that is weird that we just had a

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it works totally different with Golden I.

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Speaker 4: Couldn't help but think though about the double standard, because

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Speaker 4: they if they ever had women do this, they be.

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Speaker 2: Gazzled it wouldn't fly. It just wouldn't work. But this

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Speaker 2: we got to give credit to this cast. We were

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Speaker 2: worried to be maybe I was worried. I used to

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Speaker 2: this Golden season started on how they would find a

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Speaker 2: solid cast of men to go on to the Golden Bachelorette.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was very important also that they had

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Speaker 2: standard to say, no, we need this is the type

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Speaker 2: It's not like some guys are gonna feel comfortable going

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Speaker 2: Some guys are just gonna want to shake their booty

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Speaker 2: a little bit. Some guys are just gonna walk straut down.

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Speaker 2: The only thing that is a necessity is to just

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Speaker 2: their own I think they are a blast of a cast,

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Speaker 2: and it's sad every week to see any of them

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Speaker 4: It was amazing to see how fast it got to

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Speaker 4: be that Rose ceremony, where like you didn't know who

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Speaker 4: was going to be eliminated because a favorite of yours,

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Speaker 4: Anne Jones, was going to be eliminated, not just one

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Speaker 4: but multiple, and we definitely see that at the end

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Speaker 4: of the episode. Then I can't I can't believe how

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Speaker 4: sweet their friendships are too. Like the men not to

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Speaker 3: They're finding together.

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Speaker 4: They're like, I found love through this with my friendships,

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Speaker 4: and like, I guess it's it's definitely in a certain

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Speaker 4: You know, you probably lose a lot of friendships along

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Speaker 4: the way, and these guys are finding this really like

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Speaker 2: It's something that we can learn from and I hope

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Speaker 2: that they learn also that friendships are important. It was

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Speaker 2: something you know, it was always implemented to me in

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Speaker 2: They're valuable because long term, like friends, you know, stick together,

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Speaker 2: they stay, they get to know you, they see you

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Speaker 2: through your ups and downs. One of the moments that

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Speaker 2: every episode has had a moment where I've teared up.

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Speaker 2: I haven't like bold yet or like really cried. Every

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Speaker 2: moment every episode has had a moment where it's maybe

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Speaker 2: take it like a deep breath and a step back.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna skip. I'm just gonna skip because of your

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Speaker 2: point to the end. The guy that goes home who

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Speaker 2: had a one on one day.

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Speaker 3: Dan Dan, Yeah, I was like a little bit shocked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, shocked by that. Right, we'll talk about kind of

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Speaker 2: our feelings towards it. But he says these words, he goes,

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Speaker 3: I know, man, that really hit me too.

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Speaker 2: It hit me. It hit me. And it also just

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Speaker 2: right away said, you know, Jessica is so supportive of

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Speaker 2: and she's hoping that. I say, you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: always gone. But it just like showed me how appreciative

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Speaker 2: I am for a spouse to say, hey, Ben, stay

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Speaker 2: connected to your friends because at some point, like you,

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Speaker 2: you know, Dan sitting there going this is so much

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Speaker 2: fun for me because I had people around and now

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Speaker 2: I don't, and I'm going home to be alone.

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Speaker 4: I like, can these men just like get together and

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Speaker 4: have like a frat Can they live in a frat house?

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Speaker 2: It's called it's called back Golden Bachelor in Paradise, which

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Speaker 2: we're excited about, Ashley. So this Chippendale's date we both

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Speaker 2: thought was fun, it was interesting. They owned it, they

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Speaker 4: We'll talk more about it. I guess with Caitlin, we're

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Speaker 4: gonna really again to it. The group date, Rose goes

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Speaker 4: to Chock, who then has his moment where we've kind

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Speaker 4: of been anticipating that we saw in previews where we

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Speaker 4: wondered why Chock was going home. As soon as this

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Speaker 4: date is over, Chock gets a phone call that says

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Speaker 4: that his mother has passed away.

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Speaker 3: You could you imagine.

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Speaker 4: It was something obviously we've never seen on this show before.

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Speaker 4: It was this is the moment that I pretty much cried,

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Speaker 4: and I don't.

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Speaker 3: I'm not like you.

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Speaker 4: I haven't cried too much from this season. They are

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Speaker 4: all very emotional storylines, but this was just like this

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Speaker 4: poor man is finding out that his mom died while

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Speaker 4: he's on the Bachelorette, Oh my gosh. And the night

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Speaker 4: before at the group date, he asked Joan about how

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Speaker 4: they didn't have They didn't show any part of the

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Speaker 4: conversation in which she was like, well, will you come

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Speaker 4: back when you're done with dealing with things like how

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Speaker 4: are you feeling about possibly coming back? And then midway

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Speaker 4: through the episode she was like, I really hope Shock

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Speaker 4: is coming back. I don't know what I would do

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Speaker 4: if Shock doesn't come back. And then I and that

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Speaker 2: I know it's that he comes. He's a front runner

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Speaker 2: because he can come back, right.

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Speaker 4: So you think that Joan basic Well Jones situation was

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Speaker 4: a little different because her daughter was having extreme postpartum depression,

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Speaker 4: so that's more of like a long term thing. I mean,

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Speaker 4: obviously with his mom, there's the very long morning period

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Speaker 4: that he's going to go through but he's kept bringing

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Speaker 4: He knew it was going to happen soon, which probably

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Speaker 4: makes a difference. And his return was speedy. They kept

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Speaker 4: talking about how it had been like a week, but

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Speaker 4: you and I know that wasn't really a week.

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Speaker 3: That was like two days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't a week. Oh, I'm sure if we

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Speaker 2: would say, yes, so and so is left, and so

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to say it hasn't happened. I just

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Speaker 2: can't remember it. But it does make me feel like

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Speaker 2: Chalk is a front runner because the show let him

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Speaker 2: I don't really watch the scenes from the next episode.

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Speaker 3: That's where I got Wayevo from.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's why you're here, and that's why I'm here.

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Speaker 2: It does feel like it's a start of something to me.

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Speaker 2: It does feel like he's kind of the cool guy.

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Speaker 2: Now here's my take from this date with Guy. The

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Speaker 2: a front runner. Okay, but he reminds me of one

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Speaker 2: He reminds me of somebody who I just love being around,

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Speaker 2: and that's Cupcake. Chris Tramber.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, another doctor, another doctor.

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Speaker 2: But their personalities are similar.

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Speaker 3: That is so true.

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Speaker 4: They have like a certain gentleness about them, a gentleness.

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Speaker 2: like and I don't this is going to sound awful,

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Speaker 2: and Chris, if you listen to this. I'm sorry. They're

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Speaker 2: they're so smart and so intelligent, but they have these

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Speaker 2: here we see with Guy, right, like we see this

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Speaker 4: Yes, it all makes so much sense. And the parallel

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Speaker 2: And they're both super strong, like they both have huge arms.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, that's that's a great parallel. So guys see nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this definitely this date took a step back for me.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to see how he was like with Joan.

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Speaker 2: It felt it felt uncomfortable at times, it felt like

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Speaker 4: Well, that's why I feel like the Golden again, like

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Speaker 3: Not romantic with a lot of them.

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Speaker 4: I feel like with you, like tell me if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 2: I don't really know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sure because you're in this like your

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Speaker 2: This is boring. We need some drama. These guys got

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Speaker 4: Every time we see the guys like just enjoying time

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Speaker 2: Bet uh Keith has for you as well? Or guy

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Speaker 4: No, Mark is down on my totem pole. I think

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Speaker 2: You're crazy.

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Speaker 3: You're crazy.

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Speaker 2: You're absolutely crazy. Wait no, this isn't like in a

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Speaker 3: Really, you know, spoilers.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know spoilers actually, but like, goodness gracious,

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Speaker 2: if he goes home.

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Speaker 4: No, he's been getting less and less airtime and they have.

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Speaker 2: Crushing it, you think, so he is absolutely crushing it.

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Speaker 2: This dude and Joan are definitely together.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, Okay, I hope I don't know this right.

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Speaker 3: I hope you're right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the the Rose ceremony eliminates more guys and expected

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Speaker 2: the rea and why is they got to be traveling

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Speaker 2: next week? There's no shot that they're not traveling because

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Speaker 4: I don't think so, I think because next week we

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Speaker 2: Okay, I thought they would only be two eliminated. Uh,

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Speaker 2: going to miss these guys from Dan to Charles. Charles

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Speaker 2: it is. Uh. And so I'm sad to see him go,

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Speaker 2: but I get it. It's time to move on now

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Speaker 2: and be more focused on romance than the joy in

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Speaker 4: Well, we do see Gil leave, So Gil the problem

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Speaker 4: with Gil child all this show. Yeah, yeah, Gil, the

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Speaker 4: And then let's just say with Charles, who again is

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Speaker 3: He goes home, she says, I love you. You changed

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Speaker 3: my life.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Oh, of course.

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Speaker 4: And finally we have to mention Keith's awkwardness where he

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Speaker 4: gets through this rost ceremony by the skin of his teeth.

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Speaker 4: He really was word salaity, word salady, nervous man during

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Speaker 4: this cocktail party. I was not sure he being the

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Speaker 4: first impression Rose Getter was going to make it further.

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Speaker 2: There's just a lack of comfort between the two of

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Speaker 2: go home before Mark goes home, which makes me believe

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Speaker 2: Mark will be there longer. I like Keith. I just

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Speaker 2: think there is a lack of comfort. I think next

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Speaker 2: week my top three going into Hometowns at this point

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Speaker 2: would have to be Jonathan. It would also have to

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Speaker 2: be Mark. My third is a tough one right now.

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Speaker 2: Why there's chalk a good point. I guess chalk chalk,

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Speaker 2: Mark and Jonathan would make my top three going into hometowns. Ashley,

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Speaker 2: do you disagree with any of that.

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Speaker 4: Sort of because I actually weirdly think that Jonathan might

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Speaker 4: get elimited next week. I think he's so hot and

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Speaker 4: he's like very romantic and swooney, but I think that

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Speaker 4: she feels like she's missing something with him. And I'm

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Speaker 4: also saying this because the scenes from the next episode

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Speaker 4: do not show him a lot.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so who are your top three?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw Jordan into my top three.

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Speaker 4: Because I remember it wasn't Hometowns just top three or

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Speaker 4: something like that with Golden.

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Speaker 3: I think Jordan's in it.

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Speaker 4: So you think it's Jordan, Mark and Chal Jordan Chock

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I guess we'll say Mark. But like he's oh,

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Speaker 4: you know, a pascual Pascal, Pascal.

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Speaker 3: Pascal man, he's getting far now, there's.

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Speaker 2: No shot he makes it farther than Mark. So that's

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Speaker 2: why I think there's no way Mark goes home.

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Speaker 4: All right, Fine, I'll put Mark in there because just

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Speaker 4: because that was my initial gut, but I am.

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Speaker 3: Worried for him. All right.

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Speaker 4: Well, we made sure that we didn't talk too much

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Speaker 4: about the Chip and Dales date because we really want

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Speaker 4: to go through it with Caitlin burst Oceans. She was

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Speaker 4: there firsthand and we've made this wish come true. We'll

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Speaker 4: have a separate episode breaking that down with her, as

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Speaker 4: well as getting into her personal life because.

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Speaker 2: Duh, it's interesting. So until next time, I've Been Been, I've.

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Speaker 3: Been Ashley se Ya.

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