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Speaker 1: Revere, Revere Dalks.

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Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show.

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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. Oh what we can go?

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Speaker 2: Luke?

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, not Friday. Their team. Hi everyone, my

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Speaker 1: name is Luke Thomas. It is uh let's see the

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Speaker 1: third of February twenty twenty one and it's time for

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat. Hello everyone, hope you are doing well. I

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Speaker 1: am joined on the other side of the screen by

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Speaker 1: the queue to my non the conspiracy to my theory,

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Speaker 1: the k to my low. That's an inside joke. It's

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Speaker 1: your friend of mine from CBS Sports. It's Brian Campbell

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Speaker 1: High we.

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Speaker 2: C Hello, Luke. Hello Luke. As you can see by

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Speaker 2: my incredible headwear, I am. I am California, dreaming in fact,

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Speaker 2: on such a winner's day. Here's feat feet snow outside, Luke,

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Speaker 2: do you have any idea how much roof raking, shoveling, snowblowing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, welcome to New England. Been here my

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Speaker 2: whole life. I signed up for it. But uh yeah yeah, baby,

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Speaker 2: it's it's the damage.

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Speaker 1: How many how many feet you got like officially.

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Speaker 2: say I had a snowblow five times. That's a lot

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Speaker 2: in two days, al right, snow so uh yeah, a

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Speaker 2: lot of work out there. Very beautiful though, Luke. Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, like this show, right, a lot of work,

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Speaker 2: very beautiful, you and I making it look easy in

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Speaker 1: But people can people drive on the roads where you're.

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Speaker 2: At Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's you know, they

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Speaker 2: plow and shoot. So here's the difference, Luke. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to say we're like Minnesota or Maine

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Speaker 2: each other like demolition derby and panicking. All right, Luke,

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Speaker 2: we're real up here. Okay, you know what I'm saying. Well,

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Speaker 2: here's like Jalo, right.

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Speaker 1: People people get it wrong because I lived for a

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Speaker 1: time in Georgia. They're a half inch of snow. People

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Speaker 1: us because we're in that stage to that mid Atlantic

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Speaker 1: really a strange way to describe it, but you know

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Speaker 2: It's a fair point, Luke. Okay, you know, one day though,

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Speaker 2: I will retire somewhere nice and warm. Hopefully that comes

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Speaker 2: sooner than later. Yeah, So we're back at it with

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Speaker 2: Wednesday here, Luke, hump day, No Jay, Wednesday should be

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Speaker 1: Did you sleep well last night? How do you feel great?

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Speaker 2: My twins celebrated their thirteenth birthday yesterday. I'm a dad

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Speaker 2: of teenagers. All right, there you go. All right, there's

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Speaker 2: we have look look, well look Luke, all works good

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Speaker 2: and artwork's fine, right, but first take care of ed.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you're saying, but it's okay. We

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Speaker 1: that's the place you can go. You get MK hats, beanies, mugs, tumblers,

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Speaker 2: No, you're no cell of my sublime reference earlier? Really

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Speaker 2: painting me. Remember we used to have a nineties count.

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Speaker 2: Remember the show used to be fun? What happened? Luke

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Speaker 2: Corporate got in the way?

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Speaker 1: What happened here? Your nineties references? You dropped off a

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Speaker 2: That you know that was the one redeeming quality of

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Speaker 2: Where's gaff? Step your game up? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Miniche? Was he even born in the nineties?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but that honkey has some soul. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the people we love and enjoy, all right, Luke, can

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So as much as things might change,

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Speaker 1: All right, so we have the sound. Let's let's let

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Look, first of all, Kenny Florian with the sauces right,

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Speaker 2: He never wanted anything to do with Connor. We were talking,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Kenny Flooryan's sources are correct. I

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Speaker 2: And I could believe that Habib told Dana, if you

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, But I don't understand this desire

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Professor Salt and Pepper, let me answer that for you.

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Speaker 2: Dana White and company have the control. We're the best,

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Speaker 2: Well, let me answer you. Here's the answer, Luke, because

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Speaker 2: So what I mean by it's a boxing fight. Boxing,

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Speaker 1: You're just telling me why this is an interesting and

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Speaker 2: The the whore? The movie? What's the damn movie?

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Speaker 2: Because it's two guys, two superpowers from separate entities that

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Speaker 2: years ago, year and a half ago, he said, I

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Speaker 2: only want to fight if there's historic challenges in front

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Speaker 2: of me. Obviously a third title in a third division

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Speaker 2: would be that kind of third challenge. Even though that's gone.

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Speaker 2: Luke he could be the only man to ever beat

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Speaker 2: Habib like GSP, no shit. He recognizes that Habib has

431
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Speaker 2: put himself in that goat territory, maybe even ahead of

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Speaker 2: GSP to some people in terms of who is who

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Speaker 2: in that goat territory. He has a chance to go

434
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Speaker 2: head to head with another one of those goats, leapfrog him,

435
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Speaker 2: give him the first defeat of his career. Look, that's

436
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Speaker 2: history making right there, and do it as an old guy.

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Speaker 2: So look, I don't see how you could be like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know why the fans would be this into it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say why are the fans into it? I

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Speaker 1: understand why the fans into it. What I said was

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Speaker 1: week after week, month after month, people can only talk

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Speaker 1: about this, and I understand it. I get it. But

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Speaker 1: to me. The people who are doing the majority of

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Speaker 1: the talking are just casual fans. My point is, if

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Speaker 1: you're a hardcore MMA fan, you would want it. I

446
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 1: want to see it. I hope they make it. If

447
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Speaker 1: this news is real from Kenny Florian, fucking a sweet

448
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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of things to do to like

449
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Speaker 1: about it. What I'm trying to tell you is every

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Speaker 1: week not every week is you know UFC two hundred

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Speaker 1: or something like that in terms of the stackness of

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Speaker 1: the card. But wee can week out if you watch

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Speaker 1: this as a regular part of your life, dude, they

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Speaker 1: fulfill an enormous amount of your wants and needs, not

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Speaker 1: all of them, and again some noteworthy misses along the way.

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Speaker 2: You know you like you sound like a dad who's

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Speaker 2: telling your daughter. I've given you every toy you could

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Speaker 2: ever want. Can you stop fucking asking me about the

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Speaker 2: pony already? Look, she wants a freaking pony, she wants a.

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Speaker 1: Dream big It's not really the pony, though. This is

461
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Speaker 1: not what it is.

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Speaker 2: It's like I've given you everything, well, you know, I've

463
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Speaker 2: given you anything, but they don't give you a pony

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Speaker 2: to it.

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Speaker 1: It's not that I don't understand the idea of it

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Speaker 1: being an attractive fight, a uniquely attractive fight. What I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about is how can people spend months talking about

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Speaker 1: something that seems fairly unlikely to happen amidst this cavalcade

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Speaker 1: of incredible content that, by the way, should satiate you

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Speaker 1: at least for a little while. That that imbalance is

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Speaker 1: the thing that I just don't get.

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Speaker 2: Is the same reason why when de Niro and Pacino

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Speaker 2: got together to make Heat, we ran to the theaters, Luke,

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Speaker 2: we freaking ran the same reason when people heard Campbell

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Speaker 2: and Thomas together and a show. Good God, let me

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Speaker 2: take my thing out. This is incredible. I gotta watch

477
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Speaker 2: Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: Right except except it was real. Heat was Heat went

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Speaker 1: to the movie theater. You actually go see that. This

480
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: show is on three times a week. You can watch.

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Speaker 1: We're just fucking masturbating about an idea. It's like, dude,

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Speaker 1: when it's here, let me know, until then, we got

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Speaker 1: fights to watch.

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Speaker 2: That's you know how many ideas I've masturbated about my life.

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Speaker 2: I mean, get the hell out of here, bro.

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Speaker 1: You're doing it right now. You're doing it literally right now. Okay,

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Speaker 1: with that in mind, we'll see what happens with the future.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully Kenny's right. If not, you know, it'll be just

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Speaker 1: what'll be what it is. With that in mind, we'll

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Speaker 1: go to point number two here, speaking of that lightweight

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Speaker 1: divisions put to Saint Pierre to the side here and

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Speaker 1: to an extent habib A couple of days I want

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Speaker 1: to get to there was a report that came out

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Speaker 1: I think from I forget the source of it. Actually

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Speaker 1: brought it up with Dustin and Portia when I spoke

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Speaker 1: to him, But you saw it as well as I did.

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Speaker 1: Be see that there was this report that came out

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Speaker 1: suggesting that they wanted Chandler. The UFC wanted Chandler to

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Speaker 1: fight ola Vera, which would be I don't know if

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Speaker 1: everyone's first choice, but a pretty good one. But they

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Speaker 1: wanted it next week at UFC two fifty eight, and

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Speaker 1: the report indicated that Olavera was like, no, that is

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Speaker 1: that is way too early. Now let's assume for the

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Speaker 1: sake of conversation that is true.

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Speaker 2: But I want to jump in and say Chandler confirmed

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Speaker 2: it on the Aerial show that the UFC did offer

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Speaker 2: it to him.

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Speaker 1: Bro Okay, Well, then happen so let's assume that now

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Speaker 1: we can sugg we can affirm that it is true.

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Speaker 1: Given that, what does that tell you about the UFC's matchmaking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is sort of a you know, a

512
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Speaker 2: trying to play psychologist to the UFC matchmakers and figure

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Speaker 2: this out. It's interesting because right when I heard that,

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Speaker 2: you realize that two fifty eight, as you mentioned, is

515
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Speaker 2: just a week a week plus away, and it's it's

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Speaker 2: it's speaking a week. It's kind of a week pay

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Speaker 2: per view card. You do get Usman Gilbert Burns, a

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Speaker 2: fight we love and need, but there's there's not a

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Speaker 2: bunch of it. There's not a bunch of good advertisers

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Speaker 2: around that. Main course, Luke, they sort of needed another bang.

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Speaker 2: When I saw that, though, my first thought was, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, does that mean Connor gets the trilogy next

523
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Speaker 2: against Porier for the damn belt? What the hell's going

524
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Speaker 2: on here? Just as quickly though, others can tell you, well,

525
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Speaker 2: maybe that means you're you're putting Poria? Are you putting

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Speaker 2: Chandler and Olavera on a quick turnaround to try to

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Speaker 2: create Porier's next title opponent because he wants to push

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Speaker 2: it off a little. So a lot of things going

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Speaker 2: around the skull right there. I think you know, most importantly,

530
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Speaker 2: they're looking to save the damn card and give you

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Speaker 2: another reason to buy it while keeping this hot, red

532
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Speaker 2: hot lightweight division and discussion moving forward, Luke, which of

533
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Speaker 2: those halfs do you think was more true? Though, let's

534
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Speaker 2: rather than trying to pick which ones more deserving than

535
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Speaker 2: Poorier for Poorier, we put both these guys together right now.

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Speaker 2: Or let's occupy both these guys and let's make the

537
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Speaker 2: let's make money. We can't do Abeb Connor two, so

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Speaker 2: let's do Dustin Connor three right now? Do you believe

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Speaker 2: it's either or in the in the in the minds

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Speaker 2: of the matchmakers, No.

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Speaker 1: I think they have options. I mean, I think you

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Speaker 1: would agree with that too. The thing I don't get

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Speaker 1: is I get that if you look at the two

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Speaker 1: fifty eight card, you're right if you're a if you're

545
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Speaker 1: a hardcore fan, that main event nothing but sensational. You

546
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Speaker 1: gotta feel great for Gilbert Burns. He might be your

547
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Speaker 1: new champion. By the way, I guess we'll see it.

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Speaker 1: To me, it's a very competitive fight, But you know,

549
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Speaker 1: you look down the card, there's nothing on there that's

550
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Speaker 1: gonna really pop out at you and be like, oh,

551
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Speaker 1: this is gonna sell a million buys, So you want

552
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Speaker 1: to add something to it, okay, But if you added

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Speaker 1: it this late. With that, I mean you're building off

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Speaker 1: the two fifty seven momentum with Chandler, fair enough, and

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Speaker 1: then the win by Oldavera over Ferguson. But you didn't

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Speaker 1: have a chance to really promote it, you know, because

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Speaker 1: it's gonna happen in ten days or something, so you'd

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Speaker 1: lose a little bit of that window to properly to

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Speaker 1: juice it, so to speak. It's a fine fight. I'd

560
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Speaker 1: love to see it, but the I gotta tell you,

561
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Speaker 1: I don't quite get why it's so rushed, other than

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Speaker 1: they're trying to accommodate a schedule where they can figure

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Speaker 1: out the winner of that fight, and then the winner

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Speaker 1: of that fight will face the winner of Dustin versus

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Speaker 1: somebody next? Is it Dustin versus Nate Diaz, which he

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Speaker 1: said we'll talk about in a second. He would do,

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Speaker 1: but it wouldn't make much sense, would it be Dustin

568
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Speaker 1: versus Connor? Three? That seems like probably your clubhouse leader

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Speaker 1: at this point, and they want to do it on

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Speaker 1: a certain schedule within the year, rather than have this

571
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Speaker 1: kind of thing delayed because you know, you're coming off

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Speaker 1: of one of the best selling pay per views in

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Speaker 1: company history, not the number one, but certainly top three,

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Speaker 1: top four. I mean, that's a great That's a time

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Speaker 1: to toast champagne glasses and be quite happy. You don't

576
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Speaker 1: have to juice the next pay per view right behind

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Speaker 1: it if you don't want to. So to me, it's

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Speaker 1: about accommodating a schedule.

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Speaker 2: What was the number on the pay per view? The two,

580
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Speaker 2: one six. Damn, that's pretty good. I mean, I'm not

581
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Speaker 2: surprised obviously because of the name power, but damn yeah,

582
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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's huge money. Man, Like they killed on that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it all comes down to what

585
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Speaker 2: their goals and plans are for Porier. Do they want

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Speaker 2: to build around him now, do they see him as

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Speaker 2: the class of this division or are they still in

588
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Speaker 2: love with the idea of trying to put that bell

589
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Speaker 2: back on Connor again. So if you're in love with him,

590
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Speaker 2: then you're trying to create opponents for him, then rushing

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Speaker 2: this matchup. It doesn't seem to make a ton of sense,

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Speaker 2: even in a loaded division here, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, That's why I'm a little bit mystified by it.

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Speaker 1: Dustin didn't take a ton of damage and while McGregor

595
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Speaker 1: did get kot or tkot I guess officially not, you

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Speaker 1: know not. I mean, well, we talked about how fast

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Speaker 1: it happened. It was like twelve seconds from the moment

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Speaker 1: that they turned positions on the fence and then Poor

599
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Speaker 1: unloaded on him. That's not the kind of thing that's

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Speaker 1: going to keep you out forever. You know, you could

601
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Speaker 1: get back to action by summer with a loss like

602
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: that if you wanted to. And I think he wants

603
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: to take some time to maybe retool some things, but

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00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: you know, point being is you could make that in

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00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: quick succession if you wanted to. My hunch is that

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00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: they're looking at their pay per view calendar be seeing

607
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: they're like, Okay, we got Jones coming back here, Adasanya.

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00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: If he wins in March, we want him right back

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00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: here for blah blah blah. You know how they've mapped

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00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: it out and they realized where the hell are we

611
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: gonna fit Connor next Diaz blah blah blah, and on

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Speaker 1: their their their sheet of continuity for pay per views.

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00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: They probably wanted to turn this around very quickly. But

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Speaker 1: you know, dude, asking two guys to do this. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Chandler might be able to do it because his fight

616
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 1: was so short and he's in peak shape, but ola Vera,

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Speaker 1: who the hell knows what kind of shape he's in

618
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Speaker 1: right now. I'm sure he could, you know, make a

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Speaker 1: strong account of himself, but not the kind of fight

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Speaker 1: Mike Chandler on that performance. So I understand why they

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Speaker 1: turned it down completely. It's just the urgency of it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't quite get.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I actually sort of tipped the cap at

624
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Speaker 2: Doe Bronx, being like, you know that that's sort of

625
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Speaker 2: a you don't need that. You don't really need that

626
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: fight unless, you know, unless the EXPLSS, unless the explicit

627
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Speaker 2: exploit risk it written consent explicit. I don't know. I've

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00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 2: caught my own words here, Luke. My whole point was

629
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Speaker 2: unless UFC's telling him, hey, Olivera, you're kind of behind

630
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Speaker 2: Connor and Nate and you know so you're gonna have

631
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Speaker 2: to beat Chandler to get that title shot. If that

632
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: was the case, it might be different. But uh, Luke,

633
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Speaker 2: you talked to Poorier I want to I want to

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Speaker 2: hear about this.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I did the video. The video is up

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Speaker 1: on the site shocker. That my that's the last time

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Speaker 1: I'm using this. I am, I am, I got. Let

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Speaker 1: me tell you something as a side note, BC, you

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Speaker 1: have an iPhone and a mac or how what what's

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Speaker 1: your phone? Computer setup?

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Speaker 2: MacBook? I got a MacBook.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I have everything. I have a PC tower,

644
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Speaker 1: I have a Mac laptop, I have a MacBook Pro,

645
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Speaker 1: I have a iPad, I have an iPhone, and I

646
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: have my old Android phone. I will say this, I

647
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: think that Apple products are bad. I don't like them,

648
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Speaker 1: and I have used them now pretty extensively in all

649
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Speaker 1: their various forms. This is my first iPhone. Dude, They're

650
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: underperforming pieces of shit. They don't do what they're supposed

651
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Speaker 1: to do. And I also have a bit of a

652
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: wake up call. If you've only ever used Google products

653
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Speaker 1: on your iPhone, you have no idea how good they work.

654
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: They hamstring them on your iPhone to make them not

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Speaker 1: as good as they could be, which I find to

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Speaker 1: be infuriating because I'm so used to using Google products

657
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: because oh, by the way, they're superior. But that being

658
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: said the last time I used my fucking mac for

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Speaker 1: an interview. The point being, as we spoke about a

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Speaker 1: lot of things, obviously on the smaller end his hot

661
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Speaker 1: sauce business, but also about the controversy around the stance,

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Speaker 1: you know, the the how he felt about the fight,

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Speaker 1: and you know, looking back on it, some of the

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Speaker 1: things you might imagine. One of the things that was

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Speaker 1: kind of interesting was in conversations about Connor saying he

666
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Speaker 1: had time off and that was a factor, and then

667
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Speaker 1: the stance. He really felt disrespected that people are constantly

668
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Speaker 1: finding reasons to anoint others and not him, And I

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Speaker 1: have to tell you I find that argument very convinced. Now,

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Speaker 1: I do think there is something to be said. We

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Speaker 1: see for the title before the stance alteration, but a

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Speaker 1: lot of it is we talked about on this show.

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Speaker 1: A lot of it is circumstantial. It's Southpaw versus Orthodox

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Speaker 1: versus Southovers's outball. You know, it's a lot of sort

675
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Speaker 1: of the things that Pourier had done, the check right

676
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Speaker 1: hook to take down, the pressing against the fence, all

677
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: those things add up to kind of what you got

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Speaker 1: for the most part. And here's the other point, and

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Speaker 1: He's right about this. Early in a fighter's career, sometimes

680
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Speaker 1: or midway through the media will just hop on a guy,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes with a good reason, sometimes not usually with

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Speaker 1: some kind of reason there, and they will just anoint

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Speaker 1: him something. He'll become a media darling. It was almost

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Speaker 1: impossible for Connor to not become one. But Poirier had

685
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Speaker 1: just enough setbacks where he became respected but not anointed

686
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Speaker 1: by the media and there for the fans and everybody else,

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Speaker 1: and he had to go through piece by piece and

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Speaker 1: then dismantle every obstacle in front of him before he

689
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Speaker 1: could be anointed the guy. And here he gets to

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Speaker 1: the point where, you know, six years later we said

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Speaker 1: there's no excuses on either side, he goes and does

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Speaker 1: the damn thing. And I can understand his perspective. There's

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Speaker 1: still finding reasons to say, well, you know.

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Speaker 2: We're still finding reasons, you and I. You and I

695
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: are still finding reasons. I mean, does it? Is it

696
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Speaker 2: because Connor makes for great content and it's easier to

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Speaker 2: obsess over his things for traffic and the fact that

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Speaker 2: there's so much material to work with because he's been

699
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Speaker 2: the star pushed in our face. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: there's obviously a lot to what Pouria is saying, Harry,

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Speaker 2: It's understandable the headline should have been not just oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way that fight happened, because Pourier is great,

703
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Speaker 2: but let's keep breaking down while he's great, rather than

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Speaker 2: having that as the headline and then subhead all the

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Speaker 2: way down as McGregor McGregor McGregor. But Luke, you know

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Speaker 2: that's what happens. I mean, look, you know that's that's

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00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: why you know, the stars get the spoil. It is

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Speaker 2: what it is.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, but it got me to thinking. And I

710
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: wrote this on Twitter and I saw some a bunch

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Speaker 1: of fighters retweet it, which was, if you're a fighter,

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Speaker 1: I have noticed this BC. It's not it's not a

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Speaker 1: it's not a hardcore rules like one to one every time.

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Speaker 1: It's not what I'm saying, but I have noticed a

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Speaker 1: trend the fighters who are able to kind of tune

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Speaker 1: out media, tune out fans, tune out the public discussion

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00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: whether they're right or they're wrong, and they'll be both.

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Speaker 1: The ones who are able to just not let it

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Speaker 1: affect them, not pay too much attention to it, kind

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Speaker 1: of be aware of it, but not really you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm scanning fucking headlines that kind of thing. They're the

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Speaker 1: ones who are, on average, able to get the most

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Speaker 1: out of themselves, I think, fight to fight and usually

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Speaker 1: retain the greatest degree of happiness. I find the ones

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Speaker 1: that obsess over what the media says or what the

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00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: fans say, both of them, because it can be the

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Speaker 1: similar or you know, part of the same collective. They're

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Speaker 1: the ones that they can still do well, but there's

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Speaker 1: a degree of like unhappiness because obviously you can't really

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Speaker 1: force that conversation the way you'd want to have.

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Speaker 2: You noticed that as well, Yeah, yeah, no doubt that's why.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's a bit surprising, even though Pourier's right,

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Speaker 2: even though that's also the way the system works. Here's

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Speaker 2: a guy who part of the fuel of what has

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Speaker 2: led this great turnaround is the fact Luke that he

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Speaker 2: stopped caring about this stuff. So I you know, if

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Speaker 2: I was him, I'd I'd stay on that road. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, it was John Wooden who said, you know, uh,

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Speaker 2: both both criticism and praise they're both sort of you know,

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Speaker 2: they're both sort of a crutch and unnecessary, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. Stay in the middle and don't get

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Speaker 2: seduced by either one. And you know, it makes a

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Speaker 2: lot of sense. It's certainly not easy, Luke. Okay, you've

744
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: hit that block button many a time. It's certainly not easy.

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00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I would encourage him to just just

746
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: keep winning, just keep doing it.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Pastilman the same thing, Anthony Pestilman. When he got

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Speaker 1: social media off of his phone, he was never happier.

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Speaker 1: I believe that you don't need to hear what everyone

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Speaker 1: is saying about you.

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00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: No, definitely not, especially when you get us to a

752
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: certain point of celebrity and in the public life. You know,

753
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: a point where I'm not at, Luke. I may never

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Speaker 2: get there, and that's probably preferred. But if let me

755
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 2: ask you this, I need to turn off my mentions,

756
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 1: Last thing about the Nate or the Dust interview. He

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Speaker 1: was open to fighting Nate. That was I think he

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00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: turned down. Now he acknowledged upfront it made no sense

760
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: of the division because he's kind of looking for a

761
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: title next.

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Speaker 2: You know, now, don't we have sound on this, Luke, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know, do we?

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Speaker 2: Minich big Measch Larry Hoover, gef anyone.

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Speaker 1: Dude, they're out there, they're just partying.

766
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: Where's Mikey Mormal? I'm gonna be all up in his girl?

767
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: How do we not have sound on this? This is

768
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: our interview, We own it, we should be promoting it.

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Speaker 2: Good God, anyway, Luke, I do want to talk about

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Speaker 2: the na DS thing. What were his thoughts on the

771
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: idea of a Nate DS fight.

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00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: He's okay with it, he would do it, but he

773
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: acknowledges it's weird because you know, he should be title

774
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: fight next, uncrowned champion, and Nate's just gonna jump the line.

775
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: But they were supposed to fight previously and the whole

776
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: thing fell apart. Nate called for it. Obviously, UFC would

777
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: probably be pretty warm to it at this point. Would

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00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: you be okay with it? And I'm gonna stay in

779
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: two scenarios with title without title, So here's the deal.

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00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting. This is again very sort of

781
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 2: hypocritical in the law ways, but I think Nate changes

782
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: the hypocrite side of it. But I don't think Pooria

783
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 2: should fight next without a title, like one thousand percent,

784
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: what else would you have to do to earn it?

785
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 2: Unless they're like the only thing left is to fight

786
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: habib Agin to earn it, right, which is not gonna happen.

787
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: So you know, it's Pooria title or nothing. Diez is

788
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: not not not has not earned this title shot. But

789
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: at the same time, this is not foreign out of

790
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: the UFC playbook to give a big star and opportunity

791
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: like this where you know, regardless of whether they're coming

792
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 2: off a winner or loss, and we hate to see

793
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: it normally, even that the King of Rio, Josie Aldo,

794
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: when he got a title shot off two defeats, we

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00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 2: were sort of like, it doesn't really make a ton

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00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: of sense. Even when Holly Holm got the GDR fight

797
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: for a title off of two defeats, we're just sort

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Speaker 2: of like, really, So from that regard, Luke, it's like

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Speaker 2: Dan Hendo Bisping two all over again in a lot

800
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: of ways. Yet, because it's Nate, tell me if I'm wrong,

801
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Speaker 2: I don't think you could find a fan hard Worr

802
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: or not who's gonna have too much of an issue

803
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 2: if we do Pooria Diaz next for the damn title,

804
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 2: and I think it's split. One is because it's Nate, right,

805
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 2: He's the Connor culture guy who never really cared about

806
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: the titles and was always on the outside. And the

807
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: other part is sort of the stuff we just set up.

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00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: No one's more deserving than Poorier. Who's gonna tell him

809
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: that shouldn't be for a title. I know the division's

810
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: historically stacked. I know this is kind of ridiculous, but

811
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Speaker 2: let's also the lay of the land. McGregor, Gaechee and

812
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 2: Ferguson all coming off defeats. It could just as easily

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Speaker 2: be channeling right now. And I think in a lot

814
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 2: of ways that you know that or olivera is certainly

815
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: more fair and makes more sense. But if you're telling me,

816
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: those guys have to fight each other next, and this

817
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 2: is gonna open up Poorier to fight Nate for the

818
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: pay per view element of it, for the money, for

819
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 2: the reward to Dustin. Like, here's a fight that you

820
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 2: know you'd be favored, you'd probably win. It'd be a

821
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: big payday. You can't get Connor yet right now because

822
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 2: you just beat him, So let's give you the biggest

823
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 2: payday we can right now, Right, Luke, I'd be all

824
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: for it, even though I'll admit it's wrong, it's not right,

825
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: but like you know, it didn't Whitney say it a

826
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 2: few times. It's not right, but it's okay. You know,

827
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it anyway, Luke, And I think Dana

828
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 2: may end up making it anyway. I mean, please, you're

829
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: typically a harvester of sorrow when it comes to standing

830
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: up to things that are wrong with the UFC. Would

831
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: you be okay with this? Because of everything I just said.

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00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: It's a tough one. It's a tough one.

833
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: You know.

834
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: Here's here's just what I think about. Less about what

835
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 1: I care about in what I prefer because that doesn't

836
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 1: really matter in this particular equation. But just think about

837
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: something in this for a second. Seriously, Nate Diaz UFC

838
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: lightweight Champion, can you imagine, I mean, what's one thing

839
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: neither das brother has achieved. Neither has been a UFC champion,

840
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: despite being headliners and cult favorites and now much more

841
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: than that, celebrated figures in the wider sporting public. That's

842
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: really what they are. They're massive celebrities, Nate after the counterfight,

843
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: but they've never had that. Now you could say, okay,

844
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: Nick was supposed to have beaten Carlos Khan and he

845
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: got robbed blah blah blah. But even then that was

846
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: the interim title, if I recall correctly, and so you know,

847
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 1: it was never really that close anyway. Can you imagine

848
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: they put it up for grabs and Nate Diz claims

849
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: the fucking UFC title, It would be It would be

850
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Speaker 1: I mean, the U the guy who was the class

851
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 1: clown exactly. But you know, the kid quite literally too

852
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: cool for school coming in there and grabbing the Valedictorigan

853
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: prize or some shit. It's the most amazing thing to consider.

854
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the reason to make the fight,

855
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: but it certainly makes it intriguing more to the point

856
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: you can tell, dude, I've had conversations with Nate's people

857
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: over the years. They liked that fight for Nate. Now

858
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,959
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I agree with that at this point,

859
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: but they they seem to think that's a fight that

860
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: that is very, very you know, tough. They respect Dustin Paria,

861
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: there's no hate there, but they believe that's quite winnable.

862
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: That they picked Anthony Pettis for a reason. They probably

863
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: bit off more they could chew against jargeymen masvit aal,

864
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: but they like their chances as it stands against Dustiner,

865
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: and so you know, you just think to yourself, Dustin

866
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: likes it. You know Nate wants it. You could put

867
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: a title on there and it would be absolutely fucking huge,

868
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: no matter really who wins there. You know, there's this

869
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: about point BC doesn't matter what I think. The momentum

870
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: behind something like that is so obvious and so huge.

871
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: It's like, looke, do you like that this title wave

872
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: is coming? It doesn't matter whether I like the title wave.

873
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: It's going to crash into the fucking shore.

874
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: It's like, could two guys Poorier and Diaz better represent

875
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 2: like the UFC fan base. It's like the hardworking, almost

876
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 2: factory town type mentality of a Poorier mixed with everything

877
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: we just said about Nate. Like, look, we talked about

878
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: this when you and I did the Connor Resume review show,

879
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: and I think the charm in that show was sort

880
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: of reliving the emotions we felt coming into those fights

881
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: and when the result happened and the aftermath, and like,

882
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: I can't stress this enough. I was in the media

883
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: room at the MGM Grand as I said on that

884
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: video for you ninety six, which is right next to

885
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: the Arena. I still to this day think that's the

886
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: largest roar I ever heard when Nate rallied back, even

887
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: before the submission happened, and you're, you know, the building

888
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 2: just going nuts the upward and of course the explosion

889
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: when Connor tapped out. But when Nate specifically yelled at

890
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: the microphone, I'm not surprised, motherfucker's it was a sound.

891
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 2: It was just like unique to to any crowd in

892
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: a fight I've ever heard.

893
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: You know.

894
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 2: It wasn't as loud as the finish, but it was

895
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 2: just like a yeah, yeah, you tell them. It was

896
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: as if everybody in the crowd in that home was

897
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 2: like one of us. Finally did it. We stuck it

898
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: to the man, you know what I mean. He beat

899
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: UFC's corporate poster boy. The C in UFC stood for Connor,

900
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 2: you know, like all that, and I think if this happened,

901
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: it would be a lot dear like if Dan Hendo

902
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: had beaten Bisping in the rematch, by the way he

903
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: almost did. Let's not forget that, right, he was forty six.

904
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 2: I think that would have been more about the perfect

905
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: end to Hendo's career. He'd done everything, but when he

906
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: UFC title right and had he retired right then, it

907
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: would have been like this great moment, even though he

908
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 2: didn't deserve the fight, and it doesn't make a lot

909
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 2: of sense in title lineage history. Nate Diaz winning right

910
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: now would probably make less sense, but I think it

911
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,479
Speaker 2: would be much more celebrated, Luke, because it's it's aus dude,

912
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: It's it's you know what I mean. It's like, yeah,

913
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: come on two o nine whiteness. He write this this

914
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: this this stay motivated guy right here? This guy? Yes, Luke, Yes, okay,

915
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: let's do this.

916
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 1: I stay motivated versus stay hydrated. You know what I'm saying?

917
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I you know, I just talked myself into it, Luke, Okay,

918
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 2: I got it. Might have to change my pants. I'm

919
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 2: fired off.

920
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: It would make no sense. It would make no sense,

921
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: and we can both agree it would make no sense.

922
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: But you know, the question is how much sense does

923
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: it have to make? Really is the issue. Let's go

924
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: to point number three here if we can be c

925
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: this is an interesting one. So Cavalcators coach Tyson Shardier,

926
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: who I spoke to briefly or through Instagram like a

927
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: day after the fight. I reached out to him and

928
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, wanted to check in and see how things were,

929
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: and he was very very nice. He was very you know,

930
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: down obviously, but he was very friendly, and he finally

931
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: did a formal interview. He spoke to believe Mike Heck

932
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: over at MMA fighting about the reason why he did

933
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: not stop the fight between Calvin Cator and Max Holloway.

934
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: And what he says is this is more or less

935
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: what he told me. He was close. He was close.

936
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: Several times he was like, Okay, it's time to do it,

937
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: and then he would he would stop. Let me read

938
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: two quotes very quickly, if I can bec quote. It

939
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: definitely did get close to us stopping it. I'm sitting

940
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: in the corner, and every time things were getting really bad,

941
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: Calvin's back was to us, and we see Max and

942
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: we see Herb. There's a couple times when we were like,

943
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: f is he going to stop it? And I was

944
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: hoping HERB would stop it, and then all of a

945
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: sudden we saw he wasn't going to stop it. We

946
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: were like, should we throw the towel? And then I'm

947
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: thinking we're gonna throw the towel, But then Calvin would

948
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: crack him. Then he would get off the fence and

949
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: start landing shots. Damn it. The only way to describe

950
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: is I was looking for a reason to stop it,

951
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: and every time I was just about to, he would

952
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: give us a reason not to. It's a tough spot

953
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: to be in because you have to make a judgment

954
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: call in real time based on the facts that you're presented.

955
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 1: And yeah, there were a couple of times thought Herb

956
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: was going to stop it. But he's looking Calvin in

957
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: the eye. I'm behind Calvin, so it's like Herb has

958
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: a better view than we do, and Calvin is fighting back,

959
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: he's landing good shots. What do you make of his response?

960
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: I think it aligns with everything I said in my

961
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: side of that big debate we had, which you know,

962
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: I think we were a lot closer in some ways

963
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 2: than the volume of our debate. But I think at

964
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: the end of the day, Luke, again, it wasn't a

965
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: title fight, but it was a very big fight in

966
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 2: terms of rankings, and this may have you know more

967
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: or less, this is the title fight of Cater's career.

968
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 2: In a lot of ways, Cater took that away from

969
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: his corner and from the referee with everything Cater's coach

970
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: just said. Every time it looked like now let's do it,

971
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: he would land a shot, he would have a moment,

972
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 2: he would defend himself responsibly. And it does not take

973
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: away from everything you said in your side of the debate,

974
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: which is long term, this is gonna fuck him up

975
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: and you know it will. But this sport is that,

976
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: and this was his chance. This was his moment. They

977
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: gave him every chance. I you know, That's why I

978
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: saw on that side is you know, I don't think

979
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 2: you know, I wouldn't want this for for most fights,

980
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: I would, you know. But but in that moment, like

981
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 2: that's his shot, give him his shot, he's accepting it.

982
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: Give him his damn shot. At the end of the day,

983
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna applaud his corner. It's not an easy call.

984
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: It's never an easy call, and you know it never

985
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: but that's the one fight you let it happen. They're

986
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: not not for the not at all, Luke for the

987
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 2: honor of one day saying I went five rounds and

988
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 2: didn't get stopped by Holloway, Like no, not for that,

989
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 2: not for that, just for the fact that this was

990
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 2: the biggest fight of his career. Give him that chance.

991
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: So that's not hiding and not you know, looking the

992
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: other eye from the price he's gonna pay for not

993
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: having stopped it. But Luke, again, it's gray. It's a

994
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: gray for you know, gray is my favorite color. Right,

995
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: I felt so symbolic yesterday. It's a gray freaking area.

996
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 2: And uh it was still within the grounds of that gray.

997
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: So good answer from him. This is not the Rocky

998
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 2: Pennington situation with newness. This is nothing like that. This

999
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 2: is this was okay.

1000
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. It's like, I understand it might

1001
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: be hard to stop it, especially if you don't know

1002
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 1: what you're looking for. There's a couple things that stand

1003
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: out to me about this, and I want to be clear,

1004
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: I agree with you. It's not dude, anyone who's like,

1005
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's a news you call well at home

1006
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: when you're you know, just drinking a beer and you

1007
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: either by yourself or you with your buddy, and you

1008
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,959
Speaker 1: can tell that Calvin Cator is just getting mauled. Yeah,

1009
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: it seems, you know, relatively easy from an advantage point.

1010
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: But when you're Tyson Charter and you know Calvin and

1011
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: he is kind of throwing back at times, which I

1012
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: can you know, we can all agree that he was doing.

1013
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: You know, it becomes a much more difficult call. But

1014
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: to me, there's a lot more that's involved here. One,

1015
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: he didn't seem to know what he was looking for.

1016
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: I mean two things. There's this sort of paralysis that

1017
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: happens between these institutions that are supposed to look over

1018
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: something where I don't think Herb was looking at the corner,

1019
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: but in this particular case, you got the corner looking

1020
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: at her being like, are you gonna do something? Am

1021
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 1: I gonna do something? And so in the end nothing

1022
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: ever happens. Whereas the question is not whether what Herb

1023
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: is or is not doing, what are you looking for

1024
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: from signs from your fighter? And if throwing back is

1025
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: what you're looking for, you know, there's almost never going

1026
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: to be a reason to intervene in any kind of

1027
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: close contest. I think that's the problem. The question you

1028
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: have to ask yourself is we talked about it before

1029
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: you know you talk. You have a guy in in

1030
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: Max Holloway, literally maybe the best chin in UFC history,

1031
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: twenty four fights. They can't even sit him on his

1032
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: rear end, all right, I mean, that is an incredible

1033
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: chin and your guy has taken an absolute mountain of abuse.

1034
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: Even if you don't stop it in the middle of

1035
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: the fourth and he's swinging after that, you stop it

1036
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: at the end of it. This is a historic beating,

1037
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: literally historic. I mean, this is without precedent in certain ways.

1038
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: And then you say live to fight another day. Because

1039
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: there's the point you make, Brian, that one part I

1040
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: really disagree with, which is like this is his day.

1041
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: Let me explain something to you. I've had coaches on

1042
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: my radio show after very controversial calls where they didn't

1043
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: step in or whatever the case, and every time they

1044
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: find a new way to tell me it's their fighters

1045
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: most special moment. It was their UFC debut, it was

1046
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: the first time inside of the top ten. This was

1047
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: a rematch they really wanted certain cases. Of course, it's

1048
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 1: a title fight, where I think we can agree some

1049
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: latitude is probably you know, warrant if this was probably

1050
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: a number one contenders fight, okay, pretty close, but not

1051
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: a title fight. My point being is every time a

1052
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: coach doesn't pull the trigger, which by the way, is

1053
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: much more common than not, they tell me that that

1054
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: particular fight is always the reason to not do it

1055
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: when there really is no uniform underlying condition to any

1056
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 1: of the fights if I measure them across all the

1057
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: different ones that are happening. What I'm saying to you

1058
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: is I understand your point about it being great. I

1059
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: agree with it being great. It's not easy. It's very,

1060
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: very difficult. And Tyson Chardier is not a bad guy.

1061
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: He's a good guy. I just think he's working with

1062
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: incomplete information and incomplete training. My point being is they

1063
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: always side on not doing something. That is the one

1064
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: common denominator. It does not matter what the circumstances tell you,

1065
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: whether there as clear as this one or other ones

1066
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: where guys are taking in horrible beatings and they don't intervene.

1067
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: Every time, the logic is the same. I know that guy,

1068
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: I love that guy, I care about that guy. I

1069
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: know what he's cave. This was a big opportunity rinse

1070
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: and repeat every fucking time. This is just a version

1071
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: of it.

1072
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 2: But there's typically a moment where you have that chance. Again,

1073
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: I didn't see that moment in this, and I felt

1074
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 2: if that moment arise at any point in round five,

1075
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: the fight would have been stopped. The moment never happens.

1076
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 2: So whenever there is a bad injury boxing, obviously it

1077
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: happens exclusively compared to me MA right, we don't have

1078
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 2: deaths in m MA or too many catastrophic things happening,

1079
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: thankfully up to this point. But whenever that does happen,

1080
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: you look back at the fight and say, what did

1081
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: we miss? What should we have seen? And sometimes there

1082
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: are moments when the fighter just doesn't want to be there,

1083
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 2: or he again he's not thrown back or whatever. You know,

1084
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 2: Cater didn't give us that. And that doesn't mean.

1085
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: I grant you that. This is definitely a harder case

1086
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: in some ways than other ones I've seen. I'm just

1087
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: trying to tell you you could take what Tyson is

1088
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: saying and you know, plug in instead of referee Herbdan

1089
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: plug in and Herzog or you know, your your referee

1090
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: of choice, and then the circumstances of their fight, and

1091
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: it's the exact same reason to never intervene. Never. It's

1092
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: all just a way of saying I didn't want to,

1093
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do it. And what I'm trying

1094
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: to point out to you is every circumstance is is different. Uh,

1095
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: there is no underlying commonality with all the times the

1096
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: guys didn't intervene, including in cases where I've seen do

1097
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: horrible beatings, really really really bad ones and they did

1098
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: not intervene. My point is the their instinct is to

1099
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: not do anything, and maybe in balance that probably is

1100
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: the instinct worth preserving. What I'm saying is some training

1101
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: is in order to kind of undo a little bit

1102
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: of that instinct for the fighter's preservation. If not in

1103
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,959
Speaker 1: this case, we see other ones where the exact same

1104
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: logic is deployed.

1105
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, you know, And the relationship between the

1106
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: trainer and the fighter, I think that's where it's most key.

1107
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 2: You have to know what you're looking for in a

1108
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 2: lot of ways. You know when the fighter's just getting

1109
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: by an instinct and not strategically trying to win and

1110
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 2: just trying to survive. Again, that's your moment. But you

1111
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 2: know when you don't give any moments though final statement

1112
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 2: on this, like Cater didn't give any moments to stop

1113
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: it again, that doesn't mean there's no price to pay, right,

1114
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 2: it's but you can't. You can only sanitize this game

1115
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: so much where it's no longer going to be this

1116
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: game you know, and that's it's still the alert to

1117
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 2: so many people. It's the wild freaking West of sports,

1118
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: right with the combat sports. It's the it's the you know,

1119
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 2: high stakes, high risk, high reward. And I don't think

1120
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: you know, there's only so much you can clean it up, Luke,

1121
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 2: there really is. There's only so much.

1122
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: All right, Well that in mind, we shall move along

1123
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: to some of a smaller news but worth putting out there.

1124
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 1: PFL announced their lightweight and their I think featherweight rosters

1125
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: for their upcoming season. Let me read you some of

1126
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: these names. Akaman Aliev who's nineteen and six, former UFC lightweight,

1127
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: Olivier Auben Mercier.

1128
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 2: Oh, look, this is this is lightweight. You gotta frame

1129
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 2: it better, Luke.

1130
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: This is a lightweight, then featherweight, lightweight, then featherweight.

1131
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 2: Very generic to me. I didn't you know this is

1132
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: lightweight here?

1133
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so this is lightweight. You're a boxing hero

1134
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty. Clay Collard eighteen and eight is his record,

1135
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: Johnny Case another former UFC guy, twenty seven and seven.

1136
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: Marchen Held who weirdly had a great run in Bellator

1137
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: that a terrible run in UFC twenty six and seven,

1138
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: Joelton Lutenbach, Mikhail Odinsov and then Anthony Pettis, and then

1139
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: I think Luyke radz Abov and Nathan Shulty at featherweight

1140
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: very quickly, Tyler Diamond, Bubba Jenkins's back. That's amazing to

1141
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: see him back. Mavlid kay Bulaiev. Excuse me for my pronunciation.

1142
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: Brendan locknan or Lofton Shaman Rice another UFC guy, by

1143
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: the way, Brendan there, Brendan locknan or Lofton, how we

1144
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: pronounced it properly? That was the one that won a

1145
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: contender series because he went for a takedown. Dana was

1146
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: like piss off, which was just bizarre lance Palmer, who's won?

1147
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: I mean, do about a guy who in the shadows

1148
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: just made bank in UFC, Jason Sores Sung Bin Joe

1149
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: and that's it, all right, BC. Bunch of names you

1150
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 1: don't know, but some names you do. Sort of the point, right.

1151
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I'm gonna I'm gonna tip the cap here,

1152
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 2: but I'm tipping the cap to PFL from in some

1153
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: ways a casual stance, but for a reason. Look, PFLs product.

1154
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: Obviously it's not bad. I mean it's good and when

1155
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 2: you get into it either you know, but like it's

1156
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: been hard at times to fully get into it because

1157
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: there's so much out there in the market and and

1158
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: all that. I really like specifically this lightweight bracket. And

1159
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 2: it might be from more of a casual standpoint because

1160
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 2: I'm saying, wow, I know more of these guys' names

1161
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 2: than I typically do when I look at a PFL

1162
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: bracket all that. Like you said, Martin held, oh, yeah,

1163
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 2: you know Anthony Pettis could God the damn boxer. There's

1164
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 2: a nice mix here. I mean, look, this is an

1165
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: allure you've if you've been on the fence or you've

1166
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 2: been critical PFL, or you've been like, look, it's probably fine.

1167
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 2: I just don't have the time or the care. This

1168
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: is kind of pulling me back into the care a

1169
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: little bit. I want to see if Anthony Pettis is

1170
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 2: you know, strategic transition to take the money and kind

1171
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 2: of be pushed here as a face works out because

1172
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 2: in PFL it's format, so even if you are a face,

1173
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: you still have to go through the same font let

1174
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: everybody else does. So it's gonna be very interesting to

1175
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: actually see how Pettis mixes with this group of retreads,

1176
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 2: we know younger guys looking to make their name. Look.

1177
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: I have to say for PFL, I'm typically critical to

1178
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 2: tip the damn cap right.

1179
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: I like this, I do like it. And these names

1180
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: that I'm reading out people like, oh, they must suck

1181
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: to How many times have you seen these names from

1182
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: these smaller organizations. Sometimes they'll have like you know, three losses,

1183
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: four losses, five losses, right, because they're still working things

1184
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 1: out and they come in there and they can upset

1185
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 1: no names if you watch PFL, and this was true

1186
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: when Bellatore did the UH strictly the tournament system under

1187
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: Bjorn Revenue. That was a organization where underdogs came to

1188
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: ruin everybody's surprise. Constantly you would see a non name

1189
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: and a good name go up against somebody who you

1190
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: know didn't quite have the same UH follow or visibility,

1191
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 1: and they would go in there and just start wrecking shop.

1192
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: And it happened in every weight class, in virtually every tournament,

1193
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: every single time. It was just a steady way to

1194
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: understand what happened. Sometimes guys go in there and just

1195
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: blow through the tournament as well, which you can expect

1196
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: either of those things. So this is what I like

1197
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: about this one. You got guys like Anthony Pettis. You know,

1198
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: you think he might be the clubhouse leader. Especially, there's

1199
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: some names that they're gonna give him very very, very

1200
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: tough fights. Remember, Pettis lost to Carlos Dega Fajita, sort

1201
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: of a top ten guy in the UFC without much controversy.

1202
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: That guy just ran over him. I think there's you know,

1203
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,720
Speaker 1: do I think that Pettis can win this tournament? Of course,

1204
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: do I think he necessarily will? I don't know. Plus,

1205
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: Lance Palmer not the most exciting style on the world.

1206
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: You know, we were sort of a top game wrestling

1207
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: kind of guy. He's pulled out two million dollars in

1208
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: prize money among everything else. He's done over in World

1209
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: Series of Fighting and now PFL by virtue of the

1210
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: victories he's been in. This guy has never been in

1211
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: the Big Show, never been in Bell Tour, never been

1212
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: I don't believe anyway, and never certainly never been in UFC,

1213
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: and yet has made a lot more than many his

1214
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: contemporaries by virtue of taking place in this tournament. Now

1215
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: you got some other names in there that could make

1216
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: things kind of interesting. So yeah, I think there's absolutely

1217
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: a reason to watch, and I'm curious to see exactly

1218
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: what some of these older vets might still have left.

1219
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, Look, we taught we have this to me

1220
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 2: sometimes in the pro wrestling world, even though I'm largely

1221
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 2: removing myself from that world these days, about the idea

1222
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: of like, Okay, ww's been the UFC in that space, right,

1223
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 2: just the dominant leader for so long, and you've had

1224
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 2: different up and down and waves of competitors, but what

1225
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 2: you never get is a consolidation of those competitors, although

1226
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 2: in pro wrestling we're actually seeing it a little bit

1227
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: right now. But you know, a couple of years back,

1228
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 2: I was really pushing the idea of this revolution. What

1229
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: if in pro wrestling, right like New Japan and you know,

1230
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: Ring of Honor and all these other sort of side

1231
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 2: groups could come together and form one giant entity. And

1232
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 2: I thought that would be what AW would be common

1233
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 2: to certain degrees they have with this idea of what

1234
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 2: if you took everybody in the world that wasn't in WWE,

1235
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 2: put them together and competed against WW. Could you have

1236
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 2: a real competition? Could it be the Monday Night wars.

1237
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 2: Could it be w CW versus WWF all over again,

1238
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 2: or UFC versus Pride in the early two thousands all

1239
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: over again. So, Luke, what if there was a world

1240
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 2: in MMA where that could happen right now and all

1241
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 2: of these organizations pull their best talent and and and

1242
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: interests and in network deals and all that. Could this

1243
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,959
Speaker 2: be a legitimate threat to UFC. It's not gonna happen.

1244
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 2: This is a completely mythical discussion. But if Bellator, pfluh one,

1245
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: you know, whomever, all got together and said, let's co promote,

1246
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 2: let's let's let's let's let's push this thing out, let's

1247
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 2: put our fighters against your fighters, and let's make this happen.

1248
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 2: Would it make a giant dent? Could it be constant, constant, uh,

1249
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 2: real legitimate competition or is it still all secondary to you?

1250
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: Well, it would be great if there was more crossovers, certainly,

1251
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: I think is my attitude. But you know, my view

1252
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 1: on the way things work is in terms of cross

1253
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 1: promotion and even just inside of organizations. You know, it's

1254
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 1: like the matchmaking model and the way things are done.

1255
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: It's like democracy, right, It's the worst form of matchmaking

1256
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: except for all the others. You know, I understand all

1257
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: the criticisms about favorability and why crossover. You know, you

1258
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: get more of these matchups you thought were impossible and

1259
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: you can get rid of you can sort of undo

1260
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: some of the favoritism that a matchmaker might have individually.

1261
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 1: And yeah, all that is true, and to the extent

1262
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: that it happens, you usually get some great stuff, like

1263
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: when Belts crossovers with Rising, you have the horror Gucci

1264
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: win over the rest of from the say I'm sorry,

1265
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 1: NC State Darren Caldwell A right, So you have great

1266
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: stuff like that. You can really do fun, interesting things,

1267
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: and I'm all in favor and I wish there was

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Speaker 1: more of it, But in general I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: feel I tend to think you get some of that

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Speaker 1: itch scratched by virtue of what they're doing. Here's what

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Speaker 1: I would say, if there was just a little bit

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Speaker 1: more parody among the organizations, I feel like you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have to have formal crossovers. You'd get enough of this,

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Speaker 1: you know, coming and going between the organizations to get

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Speaker 1: better answers to these questions. In fact, PFLs sort of

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Speaker 1: I want to say surge in popularity, but sort of

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Speaker 1: steady rise in popularity, and now Pettis and these guys

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Speaker 1: being like, I'm at the end of my career. I

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00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: want to make some big cash. This seems like a

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Speaker 1: great way to try and do it. I like that.

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Speaker 1: I like that it offers that. I like that, you know,

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Speaker 1: Michael Channer is able to go over to UFC. I

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00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: feel like we're getting that itch scratched just enough to

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Speaker 1: be satiated personally. That's fair. That's fair, Luke okay. And

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Speaker 1: then last but not least, we go to boxing, our

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Speaker 1: viewer's favorite topic, sort of like a Poe Perrie here.

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Speaker 1: Very quickly, BC, you and I got sent this. BBC

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Speaker 1: did a documentary I think they have a a show

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Speaker 1: or a series called Panorama, and as part of that

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Speaker 1: they looked into Daniel Kinahan, who owns MTK or was

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Speaker 1: part of anyway the initial founder of MTK Global, which

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Speaker 1: is this managerial company slash gym to an extent as well.

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Speaker 1: And it turns out, according to law enforcement authorities, Daniel

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Speaker 1: Kinahan is a violent narco trafficker, and he also, while

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Speaker 1: he has claimed to have cut ties with MTK Global,

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Speaker 1: appears to still be pulling strings behind the scenes while

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Speaker 1: he lives in Dubai. To the point where this documentary

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Speaker 1: the revelation about it was not that he was essentially

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Speaker 1: accused of many things or believed to be involved in

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Speaker 1: a series of crimes, but that having stepped away from

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Speaker 1: bad publicity from the boxing business. The report from BBC

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Speaker 1: is that he hasn't done that really at all, that

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Speaker 1: he is just as much a part of everyday affairs,

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Speaker 1: if not on the books, certainly in reality, BBS are

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Speaker 1: I should say, why the resident BBC see what do

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Speaker 1: you make of all this?

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because the fans and journalists in Europe are

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Speaker 2: all over the story. I want to give a shout

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Speaker 2: out to someone like Alan Dawson, you know, the guy

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Speaker 2: from Business Insider, a growing combat sports reporter. It's done

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Speaker 2: a lot of great work in reporting on this. And

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Speaker 2: the whole standpoint from that side is how are you

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Speaker 2: American fans and journalists not in up in arms about this?

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Speaker 2: And if you're saying up in arms and what's It's

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Speaker 2: the idea that a growing powerful stable in boxing from

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Speaker 2: a managerial standpoint, with much influence on a promotional standpoint,

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Speaker 2: with the likes of Eddie Hearn and Metrium Sport and

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Speaker 2: with the likes of Bob Aram in Top Rank because

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Speaker 2: you know MTK does a sort of lower level series

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Speaker 2: on ESPN Plus and they manage a lot of the fighters,

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Speaker 2: you know, Carl Frampton and Tyson Fury, who do big

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01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 2: business with Bob Aram and ESPN. Why would we not

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Speaker 2: be all up on this story that they may or

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Speaker 2: may not be completely financially fueled by you know, organized

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Speaker 2: crime and DRUGMA and this you know shadowy figure Daniel Kinahan.

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Speaker 2: And look, there's a longer extended story that the BBC

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Speaker 2: did a great job both in documentary and in longer

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Speaker 2: form writing about how there was a shooting a couple

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Speaker 2: of years back at a boxing weigh in that Kinahan

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Speaker 2: was involved in, and and you know, it's it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Should we care more on this side? I would certainly

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Speaker 2: say yes. I mean, this is not like this is

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Speaker 2: some ho hom who cares big no big deal. But

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Speaker 2: I can't lie to the fact that there's also a

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Speaker 2: half of me, as a boxing purist that still has

1336
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: that ho hom who cares no big deal attitude. Why

1337
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 2: because boxing is notoriously full of shit, and that's history

1338
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: of this kind of bullshit going back to when the

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01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: mob completely ran and owned the sport in the forties

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Speaker 2: and fifties. Luke through people like Don King, who you know,

1341
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 2: went to jail for something. You can't understand, Luke, how

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Speaker 2: he could just kill not just one man, but like

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01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 2: two of them and screw over every fightery promoted and

1344
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 2: be sued by every single one and just be a

1345
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: you know, sort of a shadowy sort of sometimes openly.

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Speaker 2: Those are the players in play in boxing then and

1347
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 2: to some degree now. So you know what, in the

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Speaker 2: States here we don't touch this as much. Right, most

1349
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 2: of the fighters in Kinahan's stable are are you know,

1350
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 2: you're Europe based, you know, Irish, UK all that. But

1351
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: it's not that it's not a big deal. I mean,

1352
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 2: Tyson Fury is you know, arguably the you know, one

1353
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 2: of the two or three biggest stars in this game.

1354
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 2: And here's a guy who put that social media video

1355
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 2: out last year for forty five seconds praising that he

1356
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 2: got off the phone with Kinahan, and he's the guy

1357
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Speaker 2: making this Anthony Joshua fight happen. So you're gonna probably

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Speaker 2: hear a lot more of this, Luke as we get

1359
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Speaker 2: closer to Fury Joshua because if this is true, if

1360
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 2: all these rumors and all this you know, believed stuff,

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01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 2: even though Kinahan's not been convicted of all this stuff,

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Speaker 2: you know, and some people think he's on the run,

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01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,919
Speaker 2: living in Dubai or whatever. You ae. Look, I don't

1364
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: know all the details. All I know is you're probably

1365
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 2: gonna hear more about it as we get closer to

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Speaker 2: these Fury Joshua fights that have been put out there.

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Speaker 2: It sounds shady, Luke and and I dude, I hate

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01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 2: to sit back and go that's boxing, but look, that's

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Speaker 2: fucking boxing, Bros.

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Speaker 1: Box think that's a little bit glib, a little bit

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Speaker 1: under selling it. I mean, understand your point. You're right,

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Speaker 1: you got murderers up there, former felons, you know, child abusers,

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Speaker 1: wife abusers. I've said it before. If you can't fight

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Speaker 1: in a cage or a ring in this country, I'm

1375
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: not sure what you can do. So you're gonna get that,

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Speaker 1: and I understand that certainly. I think that part is

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01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: well taken. You know, if you've been covering this business

1378
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: long enough, you're like, there's a narco trafficker involved. Okay, well,

1379
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: what is on his own? This weekend. You know I

1380
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: sort of get it, I really do.

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Speaker 2: Well, listen, just time out pride. We all believe it

1382
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 2: was run by the yakuza, right, you know.

1383
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Speaker 4: What I mean?

1384
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Speaker 1: And I have not run by it. Yes, heavy ties

1385
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Speaker 1: to it.

1386
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, even UFC. I'm not telling you here that

1387
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 2: Dana on the Furchietas or gangsters, but like you know,

1388
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 2: it's run by these casino magnets who who legally set

1389
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: this up? And you know it's still Vegas desert casine

1390
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 2: know money. Look, all I'm saying is you look close

1391
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Speaker 2: enough in combat sports, you're gonna find some shit. Luke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So so that that part is certainly true. I mean,

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Speaker 1: here's Here's what stands out to me about the story.

1394
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: Is that, And again, apparently in twenty twenty one, you

1395
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: can't make a comparison between things unless it is totalizing

1396
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: in every way, unless every element of one example meets

1397
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: every part of another example. People like, but these things

1398
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: are different. Yes, what I'm about to say to you

1399
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: is not a totalizing comparison, but it does remind me BC.

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Speaker 1: I'll bring it up again. Have you seen the thirty

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01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: for thirty documentary called The Two Escobars, the Colombian one. Yes,

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01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: So you remember in that doc which is, by the way,

1403
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: a fantastic documentary, best one they ever did by far,

1404
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: it's tremendous. They go through and they show how Pablo

1405
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: Escobar and other drug kingpins as well, would use various

1406
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 1: soccer clubs at Medica de Cali or you know, Meta Gene,

1407
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: Independenda or Independent I forgot to say it, but anyway,

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01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: the Meta Gene team and they would use it to

1409
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: be like, oh, we'll just use this sort of a

1410
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 1: sports business to smuggle in and essentially launder all the

1411
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: drug money. And they did for a really long time.

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01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: And so part of what this BBC documentary alleges, and

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01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: again it should be an allegation should be noted, is

1414
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: that that MTK Global company, it's like, where's all this

1415
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: money for two hundred guys and blah blah blah coming from?

1416
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: They suggest that there's a reason to believe that it's

1417
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: coming from this greater narco trafficking business. Again, these are

1418
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: all things that would have to be much more vetted

1419
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: out and proven in a court of law if it

1420
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: ever comes to that kind of thing, but it does

1421
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 1: ring some similarities between them. If in fact it's true.

1422
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: This is the point though, that I wanted to make.

1423
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: It's that one of the reasons why I kind of

1424
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: like my own little cubby hole in combat sports, my

1425
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: own little desk, and you know, you're always trying to

1426
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: pull me out of it, trying to get me to reach,

1427
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, into the big companies and pull me out

1428
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: of my cave, and you get me to do bigger things,

1429
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: which I appreciate because I think it's something I needed.

1430
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 2: You know, Oh, you asked, well, you're always trying to

1431
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 2: help me with my career.

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01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, well okay, But here's the problem with that, is

1433
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: that not the problem, but the reality of combat sports.

1434
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: And you know this as well as I do BC,

1435
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: and we're lucky enough that so far I haven't encountered

1436
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: that with my current employer, But in the general sphere

1437
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: of combat sports, there are people in high places who

1438
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: just normalize the most abhorrent, unbelievable behavior. That's true in MMA,

1439
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: it's true in boxing, and it's hard to know if

1440
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: you can get to the center of these things. That's

1441
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: a goal that anyone might have without being part of it,

1442
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: and glad handing these people to that point BC in

1443
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: the documentary they know Bob Aram and Eddie Hearn happy

1444
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: to do business well, Daniel Kinahan, no problem. It's like

1445
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: my friend was asking me. He's like, does no one

1446
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: ever ring alarm bells? I'm like, dude, it's not like

1447
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: Bob Aram is part of some you know, heroin ring

1448
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: or something. He's just a dude promoting fights. But in

1449
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: the desire to promote fights, these people will do business

1450
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: with just about anybody. And in the course of being

1451
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: an MMA fighter, you have managers out there who have

1452
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: you know, or on MMA and boxing who are utterly

1453
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 1: despicable characters who have no business being involved in the sport,

1454
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: and they are everywhere. What I'm saying to you is

1455
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: there are people who do really bad things in boxing.

1456
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: The thing that bothers me along the way is that

1457
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: many steps below them, there are all kinds of folks

1458
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: who just normalize it like it's no big deal, to

1459
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: the point where it gets to our shores, you know,

1460
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: as media folks, and we're asked what we make of it.

1461
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Speaker 1: It's like, dude, Kenahan might be a bad guy. I

1462
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: don't know. We'll have to see what the course have

1463
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: to say about it. Seems like it's at bare minimum

1464
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: a shady character we see, which of course you would

1465
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 1: agree with. But all the way down are going to

1466
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: be people at every stage of the business who make

1467
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: excuses for the guys on Billy Joe Saunders's Twitter account,

1468
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: you know, going after everyone who has a bad word

1469
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: to say about Dale Kinahan, and of course Saunders is

1470
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: tied up with him in a number of ways. That,

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Speaker 1: to me is the tragedy of combat sports is that

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01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: if you want to work in this business on some level,

1473
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: you have to either be okay with or glad hand

1474
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: with folks who are absolutely repugnant characters. And that's why

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Speaker 1: I like my little YouTube cubby Hole BC because for

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Speaker 1: the most part, I can isolate myself from that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's you're right, it's a great it's certainly

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Speaker 2: a gray area. You're right, it's it toes the line

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Speaker 2: of hypocritical. But uh, you know, Eddie Hern just brought

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Speaker 2: that big Anthony Joshua Ruiz rematch a year and a

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Speaker 2: half ago to Saudi Arabia, right where they took money

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Speaker 2: from people who were knowingly doing really bad human rights things. Look,

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Speaker 2: it's so it's it, you report it, You say it's

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Speaker 2: out there. Look, I believe it's out there. But what

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01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 2: is my job in this? I'm I'm not a a

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Speaker 2: sort of investigative news reporter, right our Our job is

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01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 2: a little bit more over into fight previewing and analyzing

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Speaker 2: and even entertainment to some degree. There are people who

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Speaker 2: that's more of their role to investigate this and this

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01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 2: sort of crosses even beyond sports writing right instan Now

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Speaker 2: actual reporting. You know, if kinahand if they follow this

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Speaker 2: connection to organized crime is real, And I don't want

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Speaker 2: to be like, well, that's not my job. I'm here

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Speaker 2: for the fights, But like you said, we also know

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Speaker 2: our sort of role in this larger picture. Yeah, Luke,

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Speaker 2: if we if we check the closets on a lot

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Speaker 2: of our families. And I mean that from a corporate standpoint,

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Speaker 2: I mean that from a whatever, You're gonna find what

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Speaker 2: you're looking for at the end of the day, Luke,

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Speaker 2: where there's big money, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Dude, bad people, bad people who are also rich. People

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01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: love combat sports. They love it. That's why. You know

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01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 1: what's funny. You See, I was going through my fandango

1504
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 1: trying to find some new movies to watch the other

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01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: day and it was amazing. I was constantly finding a

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01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: martial arts movie because I think that's how I narrowed

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01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,839
Speaker 1: the search or something, and all of the searches revealed

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01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: movies that were, like, you know, a lot of the cliches.

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01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: Guy is old and broken, has to come back for

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01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: one more, that kind of thing. But it's always in

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01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:03,719
Speaker 1: some cedy, fucking casino. It's always for some gangsters, you know, delight.

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01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: It's always with these rich, weird people in the underbelly

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01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: of society. It's always involving that, and of course they

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01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: do it in a comical, over the top Hollywood way,

1515
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 1: but it really is true. Man. Here's here's my lesson

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01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: for anyone who wants to get involved in MMA or

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01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,759
Speaker 1: combat sports boxing. Two, you want to work in this industry,

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01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: you're gonna work with bad people, legitimately fucked up, horrible

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Speaker 1: bad people. So ask yourself to what extent you have appetite.

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Speaker 2: For that, or ask yourself why you're in it. Right.

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01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 2: You and I love fights, you know, there's an R

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Speaker 2: four minute. We love it and that's why we're in it.

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01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean I'm not cheering for uh the uh

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Speaker 2: you know, the authorities to figure this whole situation out.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 2: What I mean is that my should I be running

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Speaker 2: a column saying barbarim, you should not be doing business

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01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 2: with this man. Okay, you can argue that here, uh

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01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 2: Bob barburam. Hopefully you've done your due diligence to figure

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Speaker 2: this out. But that's also your decision at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, Luke. And it doesn't mean I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: boycott watching a fight.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, that's the other part too. It's like, well,

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01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: how much of this you know, at some point two

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Speaker 1: guys are gonna get in there, licensed by the state.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna happen, you know, at some point, just let

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Speaker 1: it go. And I understand that, Like this is people

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Speaker 1: ask me like, well, how can you stay in there

1539
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: and and do and do this? Well, one, I'm a

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01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: fucking hypocrite, But like in the reality of things is

1541
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 1: I try to distance myself from all of it to

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01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 1: the best that I can, number one. But the other

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01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,799
Speaker 1: part is like, dude, you know, and this is selfish

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01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: and this is just the reality. I try to say

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01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 1: as much about it as I can when there is

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01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: reason to do so. But the other part is like,

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Speaker 1: you know, for me, you know, I had all those

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01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: other jobs where I could have done something that I

1549
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 1: was pretty good at, but I was unfulfilled. It was

1550
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: so bad for me that, you know, I told and

1551
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 1: I've told BC this, like my hair was falling out,

1552
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: my fingernails were falling out. I have blood tests and

1553
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,759
Speaker 1: the doctor was like, dude, you are in terrible condition.

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01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: You can't do this to yourself. It was, you know,

1555
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: as like I was working in politics. I want to

1556
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: get into fight sports because I thought it was cleaner

1557
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: and it was better for me, and in many ways

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01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: it actually is. In fact, I feel a lot better.

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01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,560
Speaker 1: So part of it is, you know, I was just

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01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: in a horrible place in my life because of how

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01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: morally compromised I've felt doing that work. And the other

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Speaker 1: part is BC, It's like, this is the only thing

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01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 1: I've ever been really good at. I've never been good

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01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 1: at hardly anything in my life. And so you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give that up for Daniel Kinahan. No the

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Speaker 1: fuck I'm not. I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna try and keep my hands as clean

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Speaker 1: as possible, you know.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, but again, shout out to those who are

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Speaker 2: doing that just like, shout out to the people Luke

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01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 2: and we've talked about this before who are deeply investigating

1572
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 2: where UFC's money is going and all that look like

1573
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 2: that's a that's a battle to go down those roads.

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01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 2: And I tip of the cap and I think it's

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01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 2: important work, and I think the results of those works

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01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 2: we should talk about it, and we do talk about it.

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01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 2: The percentage of fighter pay, the you know, the whole

1578
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Speaker 2: should there be an ali like, all that stuff is important.

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01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 2: But they're doing that work. We're doing our work.

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Speaker 1: A couple of other notes here from the world of

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Speaker 1: boxing BC. If you could speak to it, it'd be great.

1582
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Speaker 1: So what the hell is happening with this Ryan Garcia

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Speaker 1: pachiav fight. It's on, it's off, it's an exhibition, it's

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Speaker 1: not Now Golden Boy is saying, no, we don't know

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Speaker 1: what you're talking about. What is the current status of

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Speaker 1: this fighting non fight this thing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, the current status is we don't know. So

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01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 2: let me update you the best I can on everything.

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01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 2: And by the way, you don't have to look any

1590
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 2: further than the CBS Sports his Boxing Pace to see

1591
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 2: a column I wrote this week on how much I

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01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 2: freaking love this fight and think it's needed this year

1593
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 2: in the sport because of how fun and unique and

1594
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 2: creative it is. Last time Ryan Garcia talk publicly, which

1595
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 2: is about two and a half days ago, he says,

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01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 2: I want it, I need it my twenty twenty one

1597
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 2: if I can map it out, and let's not forget

1598
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 2: he did fight Luke Campbell in January of this year.

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Speaker 2: To open the year would be to fight Manny Pacio

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Speaker 2: next in the spring and close the year against Javonte Davis.

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01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 2: Good god, Luke, Like, where do we sign up for

1602
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 2: a kid that wants to dare to be great at

1603
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:40,560
Speaker 2: age twenty two? Right now? The problem is his promoters,

1604
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 2: Golden Boy, which is run by Oscar de la Joya

1605
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 2: and Eric Gomez, have said not so fast, my friend,

1606
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 2: and a story published on ESPN from ESPN Deportes, it

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01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 2: seems like Eric Gomez told them, no, We've heard from

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Speaker 2: Pacquiao's representative team, but this is not a fight we

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01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 2: are entertaining at the moment. This is not a fight

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01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 2: we need or want. In fact, we think a much

1611
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 2: better fight for Ryan Garcia is Tao Fimo Lopez Junior.

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Speaker 2: Now this is where it gets really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Luke.

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Speaker 2: First of all, Ryan Garcia, as we always talk about,

1615
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 2: is one of these five Kings or whatever you want

1616
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 2: to talk about, these five young guys all around one

1617
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five pounds, who are gonna take over

1618
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 2: the sport next. Do I want to see him against

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01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 2: Devin Haney, Tayo, Femo, Jervonte h Sir Kur Stevens, all

1620
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 2: those guys, right, Loma, all of those freaking guys. Of

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01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,640
Speaker 2: course I do. But if he's gonna be dare to

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Speaker 2: be great and want to fight Manny Pacion next and

1623
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 2: make it one of the biggest fights we can see

1624
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 2: this year and double and triple his star value and

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Speaker 2: all that, my advice is get out of the freaking

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01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 2: way and let it happen. Here's an interesting picture, Menietzche.

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01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 2: Can you put up the Instagram shot that Eric Gomez

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Speaker 2: put out there of Golden Boy a sit down between Gomez,

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01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:55,719
Speaker 2: Oscar de la Joya and Bob Araram of Top Rank,

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01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 2: Which was interesting that this happened, and interesting that Gomez

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Speaker 2: would promote it. Aram, of course, of Top Rank, which

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01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 2: has the deal with ESPN. Golden Boy is still firmly

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01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 2: entrenched with his own Now if that meeting is about

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01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 2: making a Garcia Tao Fema fight again. Like that's amazing

1635
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 2: that like that, like I got a heart on from

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01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 2: here to handle over Luke. It's incredible. But if Ryan

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01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 2: Garcia is going publicly and saying that's not what I want,

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01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 2: I want manny, history has a way of repeating itself.

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01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is Luke Canelo eventually

1640
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 2: broke ties with Golden Boy just recently because he didn't

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Speaker 2: feel like they were they were trustworthy and they were

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01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 2: doing what he wanted to. Ryan Garcia is not only trained,

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01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 2: he's co managed by the Canelo camp. He's entrenched in

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01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 2: that camp. Canelo is his mentor. Ryan Garcia just got

1645
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 2: a big deal a year and a half ago from

1646
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 2: Golden Boy. He re upped after kind of taking a

1647
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 2: stand and saying, I've built my audience of eight point

1648
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 2: four million Instagram followers, not you. I know my value.

1649
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 2: I deserve more to go old them boys. Credit Luke.

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01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 2: They ponied up, they gave him the money. We don't

1651
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 2: know the figures, but the press really said, record breaking

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Speaker 2: contract to a young fighter. If I'm Oscar de la

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Speaker 2: Hoy and Eric Gomez, Luke I know they have him

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01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 2: under contract, but I'm not letting history repeat itself. Ryan

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01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 2: Garcia wants to be a young the next big thing

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01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 2: right now. Wouldn't you want to get on board with that?

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01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you see the potential? And again I don't know

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01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 2: the numbers. Maybe Manny's team sent a number of a

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01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 2: purse that they didn't like, or maybe this is part

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01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 2: of a larger negotiation ploy who knows, But wouldn't you

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01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 2: want to put him in a fight with Pacio which

1662
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,600
Speaker 2: is the biggest fight you can make for him? And

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01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 2: depending on which side you lean, you could argue he

1664
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 2: has a chance to win Luke. The betting odds just

1665
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 2: came out on this fight boxing sine dot com at

1666
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 2: a story Manny opened as a like a minus one

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Speaker 2: to ten favorite, Ryan Garcia as a plus one forty underdog.

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Speaker 2: And this is a close ass fight on paper in

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Speaker 2: a lot of ways. Even if my initial feeling is hey,

1670
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 2: Ray guy, like be careful you can get fly line

1671
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 2: by this bigger, older, you know, stronger legendary fighter Luke,

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01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 2: isn't there more danger trying to push him in there

1673
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 2: against Tao Femo, who's you know, like young at the

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01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 2: peak of his prime and just out dual Loma.

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Speaker 1: And also it's like if you lose to Manny, you

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01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: know you could say, well, you overreached and it would

1677
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: ruin a lot of things.

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01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 2: Weight divisions, Yeah, yeah, he would have to move up

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01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 2: two weight divisions to do it. So you know, you

1680
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 2: already have the grace there, right, so.

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01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: You could say, well, you know, he you know, Icarus

1682
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: tried to fly a little too close to the sun,

1683
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 1: but there's still plenty of room back. You know, been

1684
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty five pounds for him where he

1685
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 1: really belongs and blah blah blah blah blah. Hey he

1686
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: tried to be there to be great. It was a

1687
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 1: little too far, but no harm, no foul. But you

1688
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 1: lose to Lopez. And by the way, I think Lopez

1689
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 1: would beat the fucking breaks off that kid. I mean,

1690
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 1: you got a guy Lopez who hits hard, is athletic

1691
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: and moves and Garcia is a little flat footed. That

1692
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 1: is a I think Lopez would destroy him. So you

1693
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 1: got that if that goes down, where do you go

1694
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:03,560
Speaker 1: from there? You have to really start taking Then you

1695
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: know what happens is b see all the tune up

1696
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: fights and all the fights, like you know, y c

1697
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: he fighting pre diabetic gas station attendance on dezoning it.

1698
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 1: Oh right, because they tried to make the Lopez fight.

1699
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I want the fight to be made. But

1700
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: to me, it's like in the pecking order, Lopez is

1701
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 1: your king, and so if you did Ryan Garcia versus

1702
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 1: Devin Haney, that to me is a lot better. I

1703
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 1: like that fight much more, even Tank Davis to an extent.

1704
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 1: I think Tank would win, but I can understand it.

1705
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: To me, Lopez is a is a level or two

1706
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: above him. We're just rushing into that fight right now.

1707
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:37,560
Speaker 1: I want all the guys to fight each other, but

1708
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 1: I want to have it make some sense. Just going

1709
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 1: about it at the moment seems a little unnecessary.

1710
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: Right exactly. And I think you know, when you take

1711
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 2: risks promotionally, you do it for great reward while minimizing

1712
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 2: the risks as best as possible. And I think this

1713
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 2: Paqia fight is the best balance of that. Look, Garcia,

1714
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 2: although we'd have to move up to weight divisions, don't

1715
01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 2: you agree that long term? You see this kid as

1716
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 2: more of a wait like he has the frame where

1717
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 2: you think he can put it on and he's still

1718
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,639
Speaker 2: have a four and a half inch height advantage over Manny.

1719
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 2: I'm not talking myself into the belief that he could

1720
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 2: beat Manny, although there'd be obvious questions with Manny being

1721
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 2: forty two and pushing closer to a two year layoff

1722
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 2: at this point. And oh, by the way, just so

1723
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 2: people know, Manny, the WBA just turned Manny into the

1724
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 2: champion in recess because he hasn't fought since this home

1725
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 2: summer of twenty nineteen. They elevated what you're Danis Ugas

1726
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 2: to now the WBA regular you know, the real champion.

1727
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 2: So you very much could see Eryl Spence against your

1728
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 2: Dennis Ugas and in a unification fight coming up since

1729
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 2: they're both with PBC. I don't hate that fight, but

1730
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 2: you know, we obviously want bigger for Spence. But Luke,

1731
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, dude, it's just the tail FEMA doesn't

1732
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 2: make sense. Even if you're not getting the money you

1733
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 2: want to fight Manny. The risk reward of Garcia getting

1734
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 2: the attention of fighting Manny freaking Pakiao. Oh and if

1735
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 2: he beat him the same way that Manny Pacquiao himself

1736
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight moved up two weight division

1737
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 2: to fight Oscar de la Hoya and a fight that

1738
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 2: people didn't think Manny could win, that people weren't even

1739
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 2: talking about until suddenly it was announced, just like this one.

1740
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 2: Look what it did to Manny's career. He went, he

1741
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 2: already had built a great career in the small weight classes.

1742
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 2: He became an overnight for con Sensation pay per view superstar.

1743
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 2: I don't get that. I do want to urge Golden

1744
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 2: Body to be careful here because Ragi is something for

1745
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 2: real and you do have to please your fighter at

1746
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 2: the end of the day, Luke, couple more boxing headlines here.

1747
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 2: I wanted to point it back at you and say,

1748
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 2: uh yeah, the whole the whole Logan Paul Floyd thing.

1749
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 1: Are we doing this? Are we doing Jake Paul my

1750
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 1: new shit again? Are we doing that? Ship?

1751
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 2: Hold on, Luke. Logan Paul against Floyd has officially been

1752
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 2: postponed to a later date. Do you buy what they're

1753
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 2: saying and what they are saying in a press release

1754
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 2: which had quotes from Logan Paul is that they're kind

1755
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 2: of way in for COVID to lessen up so they

1756
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:57,600
Speaker 2: can do it in front of a large crowd. And

1757
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 2: but don't you worry. This has nothing to do of

1758
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 2: lack of interest. It set records, they say, although they're

1759
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 2: not using anything to back up those records for interest

1760
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 2: level on a pay per view and early buys.

1761
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,639
Speaker 1: I will talk about this from a business perspective. Everything

1762
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: else I don't give a fuck about. So for the

1763
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 1: business side, I will say, you can imagine that a

1764
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:22,440
Speaker 1: Paul fan base, you know, the gathering of the Juggalos

1765
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 1: and Floyd Mayweather could produce if they could have a

1766
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 1: full stadium, let's say, or not stadium, but a full arena, right,

1767
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: that could be a significant driver of revenue at the gate.

1768
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: You could imagine that. Plus Floyd has always been somebody who,

1769
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 1: as you know, if you buy a hot dog and

1770
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather fight, he gets a cut of it. You know,

1771
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 1: you buy a T shirt, he gets a cut. You

1772
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:44,560
Speaker 1: buy a beer, he gets a cut. You buy a

1773
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 1: close circuit, he gets a cut, You buy pay per view,

1774
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 1: he gets a cut. He's probably gonna want as many

1775
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 1: sources of revenue as possible if passed his prolog, So

1776
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 1: that part I can I can at least say, is

1777
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 1: a you know, semi reasonable concern with a vaccine rollout.

1778
01:21:57,680 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: Who the hell knows. By the way, during the course

1779
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 1: of the show, BC, I just got great news. My

1780
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 1: dad is getting a vaccine tomorrow. I am super super

1781
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 1: coll haven't seen my I haven't seen my father in months,

1782
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 1: missus eightieth birthday, miss Christmas, and miss Thanksgiving. He's getting

1783
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 1: a vaccine tomorrow.

1784
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 2: I'm I hope I'm not stepping over boundaries. But given

1785
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 2: the lack of time between you two and the scariness

1786
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 2: of the current era, if you straight up kiss the

1787
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 2: man on the lips to show your love for him,

1788
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:25,560
Speaker 2: I would not As a French Canadian, I would not

1789
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 2: be upset about that.

1790
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: All right, you weirdo, You unbelievable weirdo. So I'm really

1791
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 1: happy about that. But to that point, if other people

1792
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 1: get like that, not so much eighty year olds, but

1793
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 1: other folks like that, you know, that would be really tremendous. Okay,

1794
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 1: So yes, here's my thought on this. And it's a hunch.

1795
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 1: I don't know this, This is not fact. I'm not

1796
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 1: reporting anything, but my feeling is they tried that interesting

1797
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,799
Speaker 1: pay per view model where basically, in short, the earlier

1798
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 1: you bought it, the cheaper that it was. They were

1799
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: probably still looking for early returns on that BC enough

1800
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 1: to then use that to fund the fight itself, right, Like,

1801
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 1: where is the money to pay Floyd and to pay

1802
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:14,560
Speaker 1: Logan Paul coming from? Somebody has to front that, And

1803
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 1: my thought was they were probably trying to use early

1804
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 1: sales to front that and then whatever sales they get

1805
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 1: on fight night they'd get a cut of that or

1806
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 1: whatever the case, and that early enough sales simply weren't there.

1807
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 1: So there's probably a reality that if you could sell

1808
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 1: out an arena, a staple center, you could make a

1809
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: shit ton of money. They probably want that, but they

1810
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 1: probably also want that because they're not sure how much

1811
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna get on the pay per view end. That

1812
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 1: is my hunch.

1813
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a fair assumption at the very least.

1814
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 2: I think either way, whether it was under selling or

1815
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 2: whatever to rush it out, you know, as we look

1816
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 2: at the what it'd be seventeen days from now, I

1817
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 2: mean there's been no promotion, there's been nothing. If you're

1818
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 2: gonna do this fight, Luke, you're going to do it

1819
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 2: to do stupid numbers, right, to like be one of

1820
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 2: those stupid carnival events like Mayweather McGregor, which again, they

1821
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 2: did it so well it didn't turn out to be

1822
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 2: all that stupid. Come fight night, we were like, I'm

1823
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,560
Speaker 2: actually kind of ready for this. Right. You do that,

1824
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 2: to do that, you do press tours, you do shit right,

1825
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 2: you get Logan Paul out there talking shit in Floyd's face,

1826
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,759
Speaker 2: you do wackiness. There's been nothing, there's been no attempts

1827
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 2: at whackiness. So if you're gonna do this, do it right.

1828
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 2: I don't really want it whatever, whatever, but do it right.

1829
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 1: Okay, Luke.

1830
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 2: That's not the only Paul news though we have for

1831
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 2: the week, Luke. And so you don't shit on this

1832
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 2: and roll this under the rug because this is not

1833
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 2: a part of your life. No, I'm not gonna show

1834
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 2: you h Askrin's wife's response to Jake Paul for calling

1835
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 2: her thick, But I am gonna show you this picture

1836
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 2: posted by former two time WBC Super midleweight champion Anthony

1837
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 2: the Dog Durrell, who put out a pick from the

1838
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 2: gym he was training with Jake Paul and he said, legit,

1839
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 2: Jake Big Paul's legit. He's a tough dude, he's a

1840
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 2: hard worker. He gave him a glowing recommendation in the

1841
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 2: subhead Luke our, are you at the very least impressed

1842
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 2: by the people that.

1843
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 1: No, No, this is what they would say about a kid,

1844
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: you know who was you know, disabled, who was trying

1845
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:16,679
Speaker 1: to work hard or something like that, which is fine.

1846
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm not here to mock them. I'm simply saying the

1847
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 1: rule applies everywhere equally. BC. I will take you seriously

1848
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: when you do something worth being taken serious. Fighting Ben

1849
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 1: Askrin in boxing, which he's not good at and you're

1850
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: not good at at any kind of reasonable, respectable level

1851
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 1: is not a thing to give a fuck about. You

1852
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 1: want to take a real fight against a real guy

1853
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 1: at a real level. Okay, I will absolutely change my tune.

1854
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 1: I will pull up my glasses of inspection of salt

1855
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 1: and peppery and I will take a good look, and

1856
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: I will say, you know, and if he does, well, hey,

1857
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 1: maybe this kid's got a future. This bullshit is all

1858
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 1: a fucking circus. Anthony Durrell just wants a little bit

1859
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 1: of rubb, which obviously this guy can give. Same for

1860
01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,600
Speaker 1: hore Maswell, and I get it. That's the game that

1861
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:01,600
Speaker 1: they're It's not the game that we're in. It's not

1862
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 1: the game that I'm in. I don't give a fuck, all.

1863
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 2: Right, which statement made by Jake Paul is more untrue?

1864
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 2: In your eyes? Amy Askern is thick or d Devlin

1865
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 2: is a four? Uh?

1866
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 1: They're both shithead statements, which, of course is what he

1867
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: is capable of.

1868
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 2: Uh.

1869
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 1: D Devlin is not a four. She seems like a

1870
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 1: very nice person, and I think that is underrating.

1871
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 2: While we are off to the rails here, I just

1872
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 2: got one more for you. Would you smash Casey Kenny?

1873
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 1: The dude?

1874
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 2: It was a it was a a joke, Luke, all

1875
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:36,600
Speaker 2: right that you remember he got into trouble saying that

1876
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 2: about all right?

1877
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: All right, we can give it anyway, Luke.

1878
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 2: Two more quick boxing headlines I got too.

1879
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 1: No one cares, No one cares.

1880
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:46,719
Speaker 2: I do Brandon Marshall, the former All pro NFL wide receiver.

1881
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 2: Who oh, by the way, Luke is six fuck he

1882
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 2: is six ' five in a in a damn pro athlete.

1883
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 1: Uh.

1884
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 2: He wants to get into boxing now? And Luke, he

1885
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 2: don't want to fight a Paul Brother gaff. Can we

1886
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 2: throw to this video? I got to get Luke's reaction.

1887
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 1: It's a sweet video that we're not showing.

1888
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 2: What did you think when you heard that? And when

1889
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 2: when a.

1890
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 4: Well, well, well, you can't compare me to Deon Tate Wilder.

1891
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 4: I'm not Deontay Wilder. Deontay Wilder obviously we know him

1892
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 4: for his power. I mean, he's a freak athlete.

1893
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

1894
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 4: But what I would say is, I would challenge d

1895
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 4: On take Wilder to to to dive a little deeper

1896
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 4: into the sweet science. And that's where I think I

1897
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 4: separate myself from a lot of these h heavyweights, is

1898
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 4: the sweet science.

1899
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 1: Like I've been boxing since I was five years old,

1900
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 1: since I was a baby.

1901
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 4: I know I you haven't seen me on pay per view, No,

1902
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 4: you know my You know I don't have a wind

1903
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:53,600
Speaker 4: under my belt or loss or knockout. But at the

1904
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 4: end of the day, you know, I know how to fight,

1905
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 4: I know how to box. I know the sweet science.

1906
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 4: So you know, I appreciate the chance.

1907
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 1: That's my guy. He's taught me a lot as well

1908
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 1: over the years.

1909
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 4: But but you know, Deontae Wilder, I'm out box him,

1910
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 4: I'm outclass him if I ever get that opportunity. And

1911
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 4: I'll say this too, you know, if it doesn't happen

1912
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 4: before before September, I'm gonna retire.

1913
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm retiring from boxing. I'm retiring before I even you know,

1914
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 1: step foot in the ring.

1915
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 4: So if it doesn't happen, then then I'm just going

1916
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 4: to move on to other things because I'm tired of

1917
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 4: chasing these guys.

1918
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 2: Look, this is part of maybe a new segment, Weird

1919
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 2: and Wacky Wednesday. We're ask you things you don't you

1920
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 2: don't want to talk? Oh wait, we have that on Wednesday.

1921
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 2: It's called the Wheel of Death. Sorry, luke h, this

1922
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 2: was a bonus.

1923
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 3: Uh.

1924
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 2: Look, he's not trying to fight a Paul brother. He's

1925
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 2: trying to fight the Ante Wilder. And he says he'll

1926
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 2: retire if he doesn't get it.

1927
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 1: Retire, dude, I don't care. I don't care.

1928
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 2: Is there any part of you because of how ridiculously

1929
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:01,560
Speaker 2: that wants to see it?

1930
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: Because no, no, I don't give a fuck.

1931
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:07,879
Speaker 2: I mean, look, this is crazy.

1932
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 1: No it's not. No, it's not there's nothing crazy about it.

1933
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 1: This is Jake Paul calling out Connor McGregor, only a

1934
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 1: little bit different because Marshall's a sick athlete. But I

1935
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,839
Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck he knows about boxing, Deontay

1936
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,759
Speaker 1: Wilder would absolutely annihilate him. This is a stupid conversation

1937
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: and we should move on. I have to take a

1938
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 1: COVID test in forty five minutes, so we need to

1939
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 1: do this.

1940
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 2: I got one more stupid conversation. Are you into Friday

1941
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 2: night's boxing pay per view Barstool Sports giving us rough

1942
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 2: and rowdy and the main event fifty six year old

1943
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 2: Jose Canseco against Barstool's twenty two year old Billy Football.

1944
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 2: Are you gonna be in on this? I think it's

1945
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 2: like a twenty bucks to pay per I don't know.

1946
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 1: First of all, is Canciko like still on the juice?

1947
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 2: And also god like, oh hell yeah, Luke. Yes, I

1948
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 2: mean he's not like ridiculously ripped and cut, but he's

1949
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 2: still he's a big dude.

1950
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 3: You know.

1951
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 1: Let's see Billy Football. Billy no way, Jose Billy hot

1952
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 1: Takes is that his name?

1953
01:29:57,760 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know much about Billy's like on Air,

1954
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 2: Sona and bar still, I don't really frequent them too much.

1955
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 2: But I'm ever, you know, I'm not against it, but uh,

1956
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 2: it looks like a big kid. Though I saw the

1957
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:09,799
Speaker 2: tail of the tape twenty two Like big dude.

1958
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, maybe you might.

1959
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 2: You might watch it.

1960
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: No, I would not watch it, but I don't hate it.

1961
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,560
Speaker 1: This is different. This is what it is. This is

1962
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 1: just donks dounk in it up. Nothing wrong with that.

1963
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 2: Hopefully it makes it into have you seen this shit

1964
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 2: on Monday? Hey? Look, do you have any information about

1965
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 2: a big game coming up?

1966
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 1: A big game?

1967
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe the biggest sporting spectacle of the year.

1968
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 1: Oh yes, So I want to remind everyone the biggest

1969
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 1: sporting spectacle of the year is nearly upon us. We

1970
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 1: know everyone loves making their picks, no matter if you're

1971
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 1: a diehard fan or just tuning in for the big game.

1972
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:47,919
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1973
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1974
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Speaker 1: the one million dollar jackpot. That's right, one million if

1975
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Speaker 1: you are if you correctly answer all of the questions

1976
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,640
Speaker 1: and a guarantee fifty thousand to the winner, and you

1977
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Speaker 1: can win all that money without risking anything. Football Props

1978
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Speaker 1: is free to play. Just visit cbssports dot com, slash

1979
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Speaker 1: Props or download the CBS Sports app to enter.

1980
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 2: Not an adread at all very smooth transition there.

1981
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 1: Look that was me speaking extemporaneously.

1982
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 3: BC.

1983
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:21,639
Speaker 2: Hey, why don't I take over the show here since

1984
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 2: you got to get COVID tested soon. This is what

1985
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 2: we do every Wednesday. We ask Gluke questions he doesn't

1986
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 2: want to answer, so we force him to spin the

1987
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 2: wheel to get there.

1988
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 1: Yes, and by the way, I don't get to spin,

1989
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 1: y'all automate the spin. I just have to be subject

1990
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 1: to questions. I don't want to talk about.

1991
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 2: Well, well, well I do, and I want to be

1992
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 2: full disclosure here on a few things. One, we did

1993
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 2: have some technical errors last week that led people to

1994
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 2: believe this is a rig segment. Luke does not know

1995
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:52,639
Speaker 2: which categories or questions are coming. It's a legitimate spin

1996
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 2: of the wheel and we see what happens. I got

1997
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 2: ten categories. Your categories this week, Luke in the hot

1998
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 2: seat as we spin the black circle are eagle Eye Cherry,

1999
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:09,640
Speaker 2: Colombian Exports, Platinum parenting only fans at PF changs, We

2000
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 2: wanna you wanna chicks with sticks, the cosell of m

2001
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 2: M A forty fucking times and BMF you Luke.

2002
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:22,879
Speaker 1: You spelled Colombian correctly, very good.

2003
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, please spin the wheel of death. Let's do

2004
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:28,560
Speaker 2: this fun game, Luke, all right, here we go.

2005
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna go with Eagle Eye Cherry that shit he

2006
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 1: asked banded all right.

2007
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that, you know, speaking of the eat?

2008
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 4: What it was?

2009
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 1: It is it?

2010
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 2: Stay tonight fight the Break of Dongo. You know there's

2011
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 2: a one hundred chance Jay probably has a cover of

2012
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 2: that song on YouTube.

2013
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 1: Right, yeah? Is he singing tone deaf the entire time? Yeah?

2014
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 2: Probably? Ah, Luke, the eagle in this case is one

2015
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 2: helpeb Normoga met Off. Let's say he sticks to his

2016
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:02,400
Speaker 2: word and never fights again, Luke, after a twenty nine

2017
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 2: to oh run in mma, Let's take a closer look

2018
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 2: at what he left behind when taking into account the

2019
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 2: betting odds coming in, where his opponents were ranked, and

2020
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:16,759
Speaker 2: the actual performances in his fights. What do you believe

2021
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 2: is that cherry on top of the Sunday of the

2022
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 2: Eagles great career? Which is my way of saying, what

2023
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:25,560
Speaker 2: do you think has Ben Habib's best and most important

2024
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 2: victory to date?

2025
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 1: Oh?

2026
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 2: And support your answer?

2027
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 1: Please his bet. When when you say best, do you

2028
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 1: mean like most impressive.

2029
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 2: Most impressive? You know, it's the performance mixed with the danger,

2030
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 2: whether we thought he was gonna win, the importance of

2031
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 2: the fight, everything together, right.

2032
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to fight. It's it's hard to

2033
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 1: not pick the McGregor fight for those reasons. But I

2034
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:51,640
Speaker 1: actually would say the Gaychee fight, to me is a

2035
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 1: little bit more impressive because Geechee was this bruiser. But

2036
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 1: then he lost, okay, in ways that Connor probably would

2037
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:02,679
Speaker 1: not have, or maybe he would have. But in any case, Connor,

2038
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 1: you know, he was sort of on this weird stage

2039
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 1: of his career at that time, if you want to

2040
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 1: believe that, not to an extent that I do, But

2041
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: you couldn't make that argument with Justin. Justin, in fact,

2042
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 1: was the opposite. He had completely retoold his game and

2043
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 1: then gone on this blitzing, absolutely amazing streak. And you know,

2044
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 1: to your point, b see which I know you right

2045
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 1: or die with, he was hurting Habib a little bit

2046
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 1: with those leg kicks. But then for him to just

2047
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 1: get at I mean, people have here's the thing. Other

2048
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 1: people have choked out Connor before. Right, No one had

2049
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 1: done to Justin what Habib did. No one had thoroughly

2050
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 1: dismantled him in that way, in the way that Habib did,

2051
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 1: and other guys have beaten Justin on the feet first

2052
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 1: of all, not in this new version. We have to

2053
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 1: see how he goes, you know, against Pooria if they

2054
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 1: make that by the second time. But on the ground,

2055
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: no one was able to get close with that, and

2056
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:52,680
Speaker 1: Habib did it with absolute ease after this guy was

2057
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 1: at his peak of powers, after he had totally earned

2058
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 1: the opportunity, and Habib, you know, leg kicks here or there,

2059
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 1: notwithstanding which I guess they mattered, but he dismantled him

2060
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 1: to me, that is, and did it without his father

2061
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 1: in his camp, after his father died in the lead

2062
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 1: up to it. I mean, yes, Habib NeiMa made off

2063
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:10,640
Speaker 1: as a special athlete.

2064
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:12,800
Speaker 2: And did it when he came in with being sick

2065
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 2: and having had a broken toe.

2066
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,719
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a special character.

2067
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 2: And you know, I picked I picked Justin to beat him,

2068
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 2: and he probably was one more big kick away from

2069
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:26,280
Speaker 2: being in peril all things considered, Luke, I agree with you.

2070
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 2: I think that's his best win. I think it's more

2071
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 2: obvious when you're talking about Econor McGregor to say, oh,

2072
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 2: Josie Aldough, that's the best win of his career. Right.

2073
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 2: I think with Habibi it was a little more difficult,

2074
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:36,639
Speaker 2: but I think justin hits all the boxes.

2075
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 1: Well done.

2076
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 2: Spin the damn wheel number two coming in.

2077
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Let's see what did you?

2078
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 3: What did you?

2079
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 1: How did you stack the deck against me this time?

2080
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 2: Hey, it's it's chances. It's a game of chance. Her

2081
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 2: Luke Plantum parenting Luke, Yes, oh god, all right. Hey, look,

2082
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw it, but one Mike

2083
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 2: Perry took to Twitter on Tuesday to denounce once and

2084
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 2: for all, or to announce I'm sorry that he has

2085
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:05,640
Speaker 2: done ever saying the N word again. He apologized to

2086
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 2: any one he ever offended. As we know, he claims

2087
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 2: to be two percent African American. But now he's saying

2088
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 2: the reason why. Here's the quote from his tweet. This

2089
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 2: is for my son and me as a son, to

2090
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 2: be different front than my father. Also, this is for

2091
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 2: a Black History Month end quote. Uh, Luke, this is

2092
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 2: this is Ocean's daddy getting it right after a time

2093
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:30,360
Speaker 2: where he was he was dead wrong. So Luke, now

2094
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:32,680
Speaker 2: it's your turn, lt you.

2095
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 1: Know, for Black History Month. I'm going to stop calling

2096
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:39,679
Speaker 1: black people the N word. You're welcome, Luke.

2097
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 2: Is there anything that you have done or said professionally

2098
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 2: that in retrospect now that you're also a first time

2099
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 2: father you wish to publicly take back and apologize for

2100
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 2: right now? What's your biggest professional regret here?

2101
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:55,679
Speaker 1: Well, I've already apologized for it. In fact, I worked

2102
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 1: it out years ago. But the biggest mistake that I made,

2103
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 1: and I've talked about this before four and again, I

2104
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 1: have a you know, many years of fast since we

2105
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 1: totally buried the hatchet and were totally fine years and

2106
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 1: years ago. When Brian Stan trained at Jackson's, I did

2107
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:14,840
Speaker 1: an interview with him on my radio show and that

2108
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 1: was at the time, and it was kind of like

2109
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 1: a lot of interesting light heavyweights there, and I was like,

2110
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Speaker 1: would you fight this guy? Would you fight that guy?

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Speaker 1: I think it was Rashod and there was maybe I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it was John Jones, but it was

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01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 1: maybe another light heavy when he was at Mike Keith

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01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 1: Jardine or something at the time. And I remember his

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Speaker 1: answer as being like, you know, I'm certainly not top

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Speaker 1: of mine. I would have to discuss it with them.

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Speaker 1: I forget exactly what he said, but I had hired

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Speaker 1: a guy to do I had hired a guy to

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Speaker 1: do transcription, and then I didn't even look over the

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Speaker 1: transcription and sent it over to the people. I was

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Speaker 1: editor in chief of Bloody Elbo at the time, and

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01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:50,720
Speaker 1: I sent over to them to just publish. And I

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Speaker 1: realized the transcription guy like a got half of it wrong,

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01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 1: and Beach just made shit up like he must have

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01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 1: been doing it from memory. I fired the guy after this,

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Speaker 1: and in it, you know, Brian and stand according to

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01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 1: what those had been published, was like it was like

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01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:04,599
Speaker 1: a half truths. I mean, it wasn't like an outright

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01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 1: live but it wasn't. It wasn't what he said, I'll

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01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:08,639
Speaker 1: put it that way. And he got super fucking mad

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01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:10,599
Speaker 1: at me, and he had every right. He had every

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Speaker 1: right to get mad at me. So I ended up

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01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:14,680
Speaker 1: firing that guy. I ended up sort of saying I

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01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 1: did I did the j THINGBC where like it's like

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01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 1: I didn't mess up the transcription, therefore I'm not responsible.

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Speaker 1: But then you realize it's like, dude, you had your

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01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 1: name on it, Like it doesn't matter if you did

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01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:27,760
Speaker 1: the transcription or not. You are responsible. So I found

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01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:29,599
Speaker 1: a way to meet with him privately, and I explained

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01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:32,640
Speaker 1: a situation. I apologized profusely, and I learned from that

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01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 1: day on, if you put your name on something, it

2142
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 1: doesn't matter whether you did X part or why part,

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01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,280
Speaker 1: you need to look over every part and make sure

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01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 1: you are okay with it. And I fucked that up royally,

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01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 1: and I took that back, and you know, but we're good.

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01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:50,320
Speaker 2: So but that was a major great I respect that

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01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:52,600
Speaker 2: that lesson. You learned that you took the l the

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01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:54,600
Speaker 2: right way and and all that. That's well done. I

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01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 2: have a long story similar kind of similar to that

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Speaker 2: that I'll maybe share one day that that taught me

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01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 2: a lot early on as well. Well done. Luke, to

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01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 2: both you and Ocean's daddy. All right, Luke, let's spin

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01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:06,160
Speaker 2: at number three. Here we go. You never know what

2154
01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 2: you're gonna get. You gotta answer it. Sorry, how we

2155
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 2: play the game here?

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01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 1: Platinum parenting, Congratulations, black folks. I'm not gonna call you

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01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:15,879
Speaker 1: n words anymore.

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Speaker 2: No, Luke, these are not women who or men who

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01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 2: dressed as women. I'm not here to judge anybody.

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Speaker 1: Luke.

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01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 2: Chicks with sticks means women's fighters with sticks. They can

2162
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 2: punch great women's fighters. In fact, Luke, who do you

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01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:35,640
Speaker 2: think is the best female fighter in UFC history to

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01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:37,439
Speaker 2: never have won a UFC title?

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Speaker 1: Boy, that is something MM, So let's go through some

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01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 1: of the better ones, because all the good ones had

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01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 1: it basically, right, Sarah McMahon's got to be on that

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01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:56,640
Speaker 1: list somewhere. You know she remember she fought Rowsy and

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01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 1: then she fell to a liver shot. You were like,

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Speaker 1: are you serious, marlos Conan, Yeah, certainly she'd be on

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01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 1: that list as we although she did she fight in

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01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 1: UC or A Strikeforce the whole time. I can't even.

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01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 2: Remember she fought in UFC as well.

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Speaker 1: I'll double check that, but you could say ZUFA, right,

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01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 1: because it's at that time at Zufaji never fought in ZUFA.

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01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 1: But she was one that never won a UFC title.

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Speaker 1: So there's that.

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01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 2: Lost to Rousey early and then went to PFL and

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Speaker 2: lost Ala. I tried to try to fight Kyla Harrison.

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Speaker 1: Kaufman, right, oh, Sarah Kaufman. But she had a Strikeforce title,

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01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:38,680
Speaker 1: so she technically had a ZUFA title. So but she, yeah,

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Speaker 1: certainly she was. It would be on the list. It

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Speaker 1: might be Sarah McMahon because I'm trying to think of

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Speaker 1: like a strawweight who you could put on that list,

2185
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 1: but Androdge won it. The problem is on all the

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Speaker 1: good they've they've played hot potato with the with the belt,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 2: You know, I might offer Claudia Gadella as a potential

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Speaker 2: option here.

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Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, you could throw that one in there as well,

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01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:02,599
Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens with you know, We'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens with Megan Anderson. You know, she made make

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01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 1: a strong account romt herself, and then you could say, well,

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01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:09,200
Speaker 1: you know this, that and the other. But like here's

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01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:12,040
Speaker 1: the problem. Like anyway, it went to Rausi, then Holme,

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01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 1: then Tate, then Nunez and you know, and then with strangwaight,

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01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 1: it was it was it was Jouanna, then it was

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Speaker 1: nom a Unis, then it was on Drives and it

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01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 1: was way Lee. Like they've passed it around a little bit,

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01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:25,720
Speaker 1: so it's hard to say somebody who was really really

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01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 1: good didn't have it. So I'm gonna go with Sarah

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01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 1: McMahon or some of the names you mentioned probably as

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01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 1: ones who who got pretty close but not close enough.

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01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nico Montano not eligible for this question. Listen, she

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01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 2: won the title the innaug your old Women's Flyway champion.

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01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:43,000
Speaker 2: All right, spin number four. Let's do it, Luke.

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01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:44,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta do this, bro. We're running out of

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Speaker 1: time here. All right, let's see forty nine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't believe.

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Speaker 1: This became a thing, but it became a thing. So

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01:41:57,720 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 1: let's do it.

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Speaker 2: With the exception of the rematch between Alexander Volkanowski and

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01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:04,639
Speaker 2: Max Holloway, which we all know you decided to set

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Speaker 2: a world record for individual fuel all views in order

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01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:11,840
Speaker 2: to fuel your once beloved dissected segment, which Joe, by

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01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,679
Speaker 2: the way, has died a slower death than Jay's producing

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01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 2: career and Joan of Arc combined. Luke, which fight in

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Speaker 2: MMA history, simply from a fan standpoint, would you estimate

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01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:24,639
Speaker 2: having watched the most amount of times?

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Speaker 1: Well? Probably that one, but the idea is that one, notwithstanding.

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Speaker 2: That one you did for the purpose of a video

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Speaker 2: for your job.

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Speaker 1: Luke, as a fan, which one have I watched the most?

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01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 2: You know, we all when we're bored, we put on

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01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 2: fight pass. We all sometimes have like a you know,

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01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 2: a favorite we go to. Is there one?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've talked about it, in a number of times.

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01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:50,640
Speaker 1: I did a video on it as a matter of

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01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 1: fact too. This is a it's a deep cut and

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01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 1: it was it was really fun to go down memory lane.

2231
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:58,280
Speaker 1: But it was one of my favorite fights, Diego Sanchez

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01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 1: versus Carl Parisian and this is Diego when he was

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01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:04,080
Speaker 1: absolutely beginning to burn through contenders.

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01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 2: Dude, I love that fight.

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01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 1: I feel it is such a fight, sick fight, really

2236
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 1: really and I go back and and that was interesting

2237
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:14,720
Speaker 1: because when Carol and Diego would get taken down, the

2238
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 1: new game is to fire and underhook and then stand.

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01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,560
Speaker 1: But back then it was just play your guard, and

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Speaker 1: so you would see the guard games of the two

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01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:26,839
Speaker 1: and Carl had a sick guard really really impressive aside

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01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 1: from just a throw. So, you know, a bit of

2243
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 1: a different time in MMA when there was a different

2244
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:33,120
Speaker 1: way to fight, but that one was you know, you

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01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:35,680
Speaker 1: were like Carl, you knew was legit. I mean, he

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01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 1: was very proven at that point, and Diego had done well,

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01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 1: but you didn't know how good he was going to be.

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01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:43,760
Speaker 1: And that fight was back and forth. But you know,

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01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 1: Carl got his tooth knocked out and he threw Diego

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Speaker 1: on his head a few times. It was a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun.

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01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:52,760
Speaker 2: Rashad Nay on the old CBS podcast once did a

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01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,599
Speaker 2: fun segment where we counted down from five to one, Luke,

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01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 2: our favorite fighters to watch on fight Pass, meaning like

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Speaker 2: which fighters do you watching the most, because you just

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Speaker 2: like Carl Prejian was like right outside my top five. Luke,

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Speaker 2: He's got some really fun ass fights, whether it's those

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01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 2: early ones where he was fooling people with the judo throws,

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01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 2: or like this fight or the Nick Dias fight. I mean,

2260
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:15,599
Speaker 2: he was in some freaking fun wars in that early

2261
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 2: UFC ron.

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01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 1: Luke, there's no denying it. There's a lot of those guys,

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01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:21,599
Speaker 1: man who you know, and if you talk about him

2264
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:23,960
Speaker 1: now with the fans who came around two, three, four

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01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 1: or five years ago, they missed all of that. But

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01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 1: those times for a lot of those dudes in the

2267
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:32,760
Speaker 1: position you're talking about, they had fun moments climbing the

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01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 1: ladder and to be a part of that journey as

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01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:37,600
Speaker 1: it happened, surprising you many times along the way. I

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01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:41,720
Speaker 1: remember when I remember when Rashad beat Sean Salmon and

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01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 1: kicked him in the face and the dude did this

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01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:46,640
Speaker 1: number of backwards I was like, dude, Rashad is a

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01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 1: bad motherfucker. That was a great moment too. I remember

2274
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 1: where I was. I was in Alexandria, Virginia. I had

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01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 1: just moved into I had bought my home, but I

2276
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 1: had to live in an apartment for a month because

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01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:58,680
Speaker 1: the house wasn't was renovated and I was living in

2278
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:00,880
Speaker 1: this fight. I was I have to pay mortgage and

2279
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 1: rent at the same time. I had no money, so

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01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 1: I was living in this absolute dump off exit five

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01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 1: on three ninety five for folks who are in the area.

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01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 1: And I was watching on my little ass TV that

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01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 1: I had in there, and I remember I screamed when

2284
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:17,160
Speaker 1: Rashad had kicked him because I was just so blown away.

2285
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 1: So a great moment.

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01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:21,479
Speaker 2: Great stuff, Luke, Let's close with this one. More spin

2287
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:28,599
Speaker 2: Let's see what we get here. Come on something something saucy,

2288
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:30,559
Speaker 2: Come on, no butt stuff is a week.

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01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:35,759
Speaker 1: Luke, Dude, you never picked the categories that I like ever.

2290
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:39,040
Speaker 2: Luke, you spin it, dude. I don't pick what you

2291
01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 2: you get what you get, bro, and that's what it is.

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01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:43,479
Speaker 1: Bullshit. I should be from now on, I should be

2293
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 1: able to pick them. You pick them ahead of time.

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01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 1: I think that's bullshit. All right, all right, we can.

2295
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:50,400
Speaker 2: We can always recalibrate. Although I love the random chance here,

2296
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 2: Luke BMF. You yes, remember that time Uncle Dana Luke

2297
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 2: approved the creation of a baddest motherfucker title and then

2298
01:45:57,080 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 2: we never heard about it again. Let's say you were

2299
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 2: made you UFC president for a day, like my town, Luke,

2300
01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 2: naugatuck connotik came my hometown. There's always like Lithuanian mayor

2301
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 2: for a day, right, Irish mayor for a day, and

2302
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:10,519
Speaker 2: you get to like wear the sash around and like

2303
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 2: pretend you're you can do anything. Look, let's say you

2304
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:17,000
Speaker 2: won that all right Armenian Matchmaker of the day for UFC,

2305
01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 2: and you were allowed to lean heavily into the BMF gimmick,

2306
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:22,760
Speaker 2: and they said to you, Mick Maynard sat you down

2307
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 2: and said, Luke, construct for us a four fight main

2308
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 2: card for a special UFC BMF pay per view that

2309
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 2: would have to include Jorge Mozvinl in the main event

2310
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 2: defending the BMF title against a fighter of your choice,

2311
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 2: and three other badass three round fights around it, with

2312
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 2: all fighters worthy of the BMF name. Construct your pay

2313
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 2: per view.

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01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:45,599
Speaker 3: For us Luke.

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01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 1: All right, so that's your headliner, right, Yeah, who's he fighting? Though,

2316
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 1: I would say, uh no, I would have Jorge versus

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01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:55,640
Speaker 1: Nate two. You have to run it back. You have

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01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 1: to run it back, Okay, okay, all right, so that's first.

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Speaker 1: Then I have Justin Gage, Michael Chandler, Yeah, to animals,

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01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:11,640
Speaker 1: to animals getting after it. Then I would do, you

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01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 1: gotta go heavier weight class. I would do John Jones

2322
01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:20,800
Speaker 1: and Francis Right. I would say John Jones Stepe, but

2323
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:22,760
Speaker 1: it's a little too cerebral. You need something a little

2324
01:47:22,760 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 1: bit more.

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01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have thought of this as BMF, but it

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01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:28,840
Speaker 2: kind of fits.

2327
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:32,840
Speaker 1: It at right. Yeah, and then you gotta go women's fight.

2328
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:34,880
Speaker 1: I feel like you gotta go women's fight. I feel

2329
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:37,040
Speaker 1: like you don't have one on there. You're doing the

2330
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 1: game of disservice.

2331
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:43,680
Speaker 2: So I would say, Androge, you gotta have Andrage.

2332
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 3: Right.

2333
01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:46,560
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. The real month to make for

2334
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:48,920
Speaker 1: BMF on the women's side is the third fight between

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01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:50,880
Speaker 1: Valentina and Amanda. But it wouldn't be a fun fight.

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01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 1: We know that already. Yeah, it'd be technical, technical, so

2337
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:55,080
Speaker 1: you couldn't go that direction.

2338
01:47:57,560 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 2: How about Clausa yoanna.

2339
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 1: Three, Claudia, Yo, wanna three. I wouldn't Bailey to no,

2340
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 1: I would do yeah, I would do Rose versus Zang

2341
01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 1: on that one.

2342
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:13,559
Speaker 2: Oh God, that dude that's going to end up a war.

2343
01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:15,640
Speaker 1: It just is that is you imagine a card with

2344
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:17,360
Speaker 1: those fights on it, and I guess you know what,

2345
01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:20,600
Speaker 1: I guess I would move John Jones and to the

2346
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 1: comane and I put your opener, actually your opener, I

2347
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:26,640
Speaker 1: would be Geechee and uh Chandler because you know it

2348
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 1: just fucking tear the wrapping off the present right away

2349
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 1: kind of thing.

2350
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,160
Speaker 2: Uh. And you'll need a glitzier card than I expected.

2351
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:36,479
Speaker 2: I was expecting like Cowboy Matt Brown or some shit.

2352
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 2: But this is really good, Luke. Okay, I think this

2353
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:39,439
Speaker 2: will work. In fact, I might.

2354
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:42,719
Speaker 1: I'm trying to pick elite fighters who are known dogs

2355
01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 1: when they need to be, you know, or elite fighter

2356
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:48,360
Speaker 1: who could get the dog brought out of them by

2357
01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:50,600
Speaker 1: the by the matchup or something like that. And I

2358
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 1: feel like you'd get that with these matchups.

2359
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:55,960
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, let's speed through it here to get

2360
01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:58,559
Speaker 2: through your COVID test. We got some fansubmissions this week

2361
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:01,840
Speaker 2: and as everyone knows. Morning on bad at gmail dot

2362
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:03,840
Speaker 2: com is the email or you can d M me

2363
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:06,760
Speaker 2: your artwork. You know the deal all right. At River

2364
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:10,880
Speaker 2: Kitty Ransom. Love this guy on Instagram, big cat Lover, Luke.

2365
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 2: He's wearing a m K T shirt and he's standing

2366
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:14,639
Speaker 2: under a buffalo head.

2367
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 1: That's a big ass fucking animal.

2368
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:21,720
Speaker 2: Jesus, that's that is just massively that that thing that

2369
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 2: he might be. I was gonna say, how big do

2370
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 2: you think that thing shits? Probably River Kitty Ransom size.

2371
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:26,360
Speaker 3: Right.

2372
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 1: Where are you on the idea of bison burgers?

2373
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:31,400
Speaker 2: I've never had one?

2374
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 4: Is it?

2375
01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:32,600
Speaker 2: Is it worth it?

2376
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 1: Is it?

2377
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 2: Does it change your line? Yeah?

2378
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 1: They're slightly It's slightly And when I say slightly, I

2379
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:42,280
Speaker 1: do mean slightly slightly gameier than Cow's. It tastes, tastes good.

2380
01:49:42,439 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 1: It's not a radical difference.

2381
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:47,080
Speaker 2: I hope one day, Luke, that you and I are

2382
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:49,519
Speaker 2: in Japan, not not to see Risen, but for some

2383
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:51,960
Speaker 2: big giant UFC event and we get to eat an

2384
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 2: ex racehorse champion, you know, just get a get a

2385
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:56,920
Speaker 2: nice big ass horse steak. I will be well, that'd

2386
01:49:56,920 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 2: be great. It's gonna be great, Luke, all right, we

2387
01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:01,599
Speaker 2: gotta we gotta keep going here, uh coming in, he says, Hey, guys,

2388
01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:04,200
Speaker 2: I've attached a pick of my dinner enjoying some Omagang

2389
01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:07,560
Speaker 2: Brewery out of Cooperstown, New York. They're beyond Rainbow's I

2390
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 2: pa he's got some wings with the dust in the

2391
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:13,919
Speaker 2: diamond hot sauce. He says. I'm no hot sauce expert

2392
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:17,520
Speaker 2: like Luke. Just kidding Luke, haha. But it's an enjoyable

2393
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:20,639
Speaker 2: Saturday night. You guys are the best. Thank you, no, Ben,

2394
01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 2: thank you brother, Thank you well.

2395
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:24,479
Speaker 1: By the way. And I could be wrong about this,

2396
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 1: but I was told, and I'm gonna say that with

2397
01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:30,439
Speaker 1: a disclaimer, I was told it's pronounced Oma gong. Have

2398
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 1: you whatever, it's pronounced gang or gong. Have you had

2399
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:33,679
Speaker 1: their beer before?

2400
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? Their beer is fantastic here. It's out right on

2401
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:36,760
Speaker 2: the water there.

2402
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2403
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:39,000
Speaker 2: If you ever go to Cooperstown, New York, by the way,

2404
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:40,519
Speaker 2: for the Hall of Fame and that that cute little

2405
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:42,280
Speaker 2: village right on the water of the brewery, it's it's

2406
01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:43,760
Speaker 2: a it's a great trip if you if you're a

2407
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:46,360
Speaker 2: nearby to do that. So thank you Ben for supporting us.

2408
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:50,240
Speaker 1: Did I tell you this Hot sauce? Heartbeat Hot Sauce Company,

2409
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 1: the company that makes this hot sauce. They liked my

2410
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:55,760
Speaker 1: reviews so much they sent me a gift package. Did

2411
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 1: I tell you this?

2412
01:50:56,640 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 2: Ah No, that's awesome.

2413
01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 1: They sent me one of every thing that they make,

2414
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:01,760
Speaker 1: plus a T shirt.

2415
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 2: So yes, dude, I love free shit. Shout out to them.

2416
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:09,040
Speaker 2: And also, Pourier is gonna be on Hot Ones.

2417
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:11,760
Speaker 1: Yes, today, tomorrow, tomorrow.

2418
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:16,400
Speaker 2: Yes, excellent. All right, Nima F says, Hi, morning, Combat Team.

2419
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:19,439
Speaker 2: I am in the non air conditioned basement of hell

2420
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:23,599
Speaker 2: enjoying your show's branding stolen and printed on my birthday card.

2421
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 2: Not my fault. You cannot send jack shit outside of

2422
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:28,640
Speaker 2: the US. Keep up the good work. I've managed to

2423
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:31,720
Speaker 2: get my girlfriend, who previously was terrified of MMA to

2424
01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:35,360
Speaker 2: tune into your show. Time to time, cheers, guys, Luke,

2425
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 2: did his girlfriend make a birthday card out of our

2426
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:41,720
Speaker 2: out of our MK documentary picture.

2427
01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:44,960
Speaker 1: Out of our stupid fat faces? Yes? Can you believe that? Dude?

2428
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:47,439
Speaker 1: That's a that's a ten out of ten move by

2429
01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:48,000
Speaker 1: the girlfriend.

2430
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:50,840
Speaker 2: Huh dude, Hey, Nima F, a little bit of advice here.

2431
01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:53,720
Speaker 2: Pro tip. Put it on her, put it, put it

2432
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 2: on her. Okay, please, bro okay, get it done. Get

2433
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 2: that thing done? Okay? Is his hand through the through

2434
01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:02,000
Speaker 2: the fly? Is that a that a tip on?

2435
01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 1: I didn't notice that, but I think you're right, dude.

2436
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:08,240
Speaker 2: This one legend.

2437
01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:09,960
Speaker 1: Buddy. If you don't marry her, I don't know what

2438
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:10,920
Speaker 1: you're doing with your life.

2439
01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 2: Legend. All right, Speaking of legends, Luke, Bill and Jen

2440
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:16,479
Speaker 2: RV and Ventures they're back this week. They visited the

2441
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 2: Lobrea tar Pits in Los Angeles. Look at old Bill, Luke,

2442
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:23,760
Speaker 2: He's gonna wear that MK shirt until it disintegrates and

2443
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 2: just falls off of him. We gotta get there a

2444
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:28,479
Speaker 2: y wait, they don't have an address. We gotta find

2445
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:30,479
Speaker 2: out where their RV is parked and send them some

2446
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 2: fresh merch.

2447
01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:34,960
Speaker 1: Luke, dude, these people are living when people always talk

2448
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:37,840
Speaker 1: about living my best life on Twitter. Hey, no, this

2449
01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:41,360
Speaker 1: is an actual example of it. What legends these two are.

2450
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 1: And they're continued Billboard support for the show by wearing

2451
01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 1: our merch everywhere?

2452
01:52:46,280 --> 01:52:49,000
Speaker 2: Is you gotta support Bill here because he's worn that

2453
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 2: shirt forty nine times. I mean it's incredible.

2454
01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 1: I love it at least.

2455
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 2: All right, Philly Dee on Instagram coming in, Luke. He's

2456
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:59,599
Speaker 2: a tattooist and artists and he wanted you to critique

2457
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:03,040
Speaker 2: his head tat of a dragon that he recently did

2458
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:04,400
Speaker 2: on some crazy bloke's head.

2459
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 1: Well, I can't see the picture very well from the

2460
01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:09,280
Speaker 1: zoom link I'm looking at. But if you send it

2461
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:11,760
Speaker 1: to me later I can better take a look. It

2462
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:14,519
Speaker 1: looks okay. But again my picture is very blurry, so

2463
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 1: I don't want.

2464
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:16,439
Speaker 2: To say can we full screen that?

2465
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 1: Or no, Let's see if you can blow it up

2466
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:19,320
Speaker 1: a little bit here.

2467
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:23,599
Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, you need the full picture all right. Well,

2468
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 2: Philly d thank you for your artwork. Just the same, Luke.

2469
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:28,920
Speaker 2: I'd let that guy operate on my head. Hey, Leo Selker,

2470
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:31,960
Speaker 2: Leo Selker, Luke, this is a great dude. He moved

2471
01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:34,200
Speaker 2: to Connecticut. He lives nearby me, but he lived in

2472
01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 2: Abu Dhabi for the last seven or eight years. He

2473
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 2: sent me this pick to show you. This is in

2474
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:41,240
Speaker 2: the backwoods of abby out in the country of Uae

2475
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:43,360
Speaker 2: and there's a dude with a damn camel in the

2476
01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 2: back of the truck.

2477
01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:48,799
Speaker 1: Look broll I Once when my grandma died, we couldn't

2478
01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 1: land in Texas in Oklahoma, but for whatever reason, we

2479
01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:54,120
Speaker 1: could only fly to Texas. Then we had to drive

2480
01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:56,640
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma, and I forget where we landed, but we

2481
01:53:56,960 --> 01:53:59,679
Speaker 1: drove across the border and we drove in these places

2482
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:01,360
Speaker 1: that I later found out were owned by like rich

2483
01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:04,360
Speaker 1: oil barons. And if you do, you'll just be driving

2484
01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:08,840
Speaker 1: like from Texas to Oklahoma and they'll be camels an antelope,

2485
01:54:09,080 --> 01:54:11,400
Speaker 1: all on the side of the road, fenced in, but

2486
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:13,320
Speaker 1: you just see them right there. And it turns out

2487
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:16,320
Speaker 1: these rich oil barons they just fly in exotic animals

2488
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:18,560
Speaker 1: to live on their property. And they had shit. You

2489
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:21,360
Speaker 1: would see shit like this for dude, for miles you

2490
01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:23,120
Speaker 1: would see camels. It was the craziest thing.

2491
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:25,400
Speaker 2: That is bizarre, But I love it.

2492
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 1: I love it.

2493
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 2: I think they got the rope around his hump to

2494
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 2: hold them down. Hey, Philip d send us a message.

2495
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:31,880
Speaker 2: He said, what's up, DONK. So I hope you enjoy

2496
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:34,640
Speaker 2: all the memes as well as well as my bullseye

2497
01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 2: axe throw had my wonder your wife record me. When

2498
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:42,680
Speaker 2: she asked what MK all day damn near everyday ment,

2499
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 2: I simply told her quote, it's more art. You wouldn't understand. Yes,

2500
01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:50,680
Speaker 2: love you both, love the show, keep up the good work. Look,

2501
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:53,520
Speaker 2: I will support any man wearing an MK sweatshirt hitting

2502
01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:55,480
Speaker 2: a bullseye on a damn axe throw.

2503
01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:59,440
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, yes, except he's at the bare minimum

2504
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:03,160
Speaker 1: distance supposed to be. Why don't you do that juvenile

2505
01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 1: and back that ass up and try it for further away?

2506
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:08,360
Speaker 2: Guy, brother, that is some art right there. Okay, hopefully

2507
01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:09,240
Speaker 2: you shared the sauce.

2508
01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 1: With the lady. Appreciate it.

2509
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:14,760
Speaker 2: Philip D also sending this meme from Room Service Diaries.

2510
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 2: I haven't seen this yet. Let's see what we got here?

2511
01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:18,760
Speaker 2: Can we go full screen gif?

2512
01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah we cannot see that.

2513
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 2: No comment, no comment to that, Philip, Thank you very much.

2514
01:55:28,520 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 2: Luke Harry underscore GDS on Instagram sent me a nice

2515
01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:35,760
Speaker 2: little note here. Can we blow it up? He's got

2516
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:38,160
Speaker 2: a message though deep inside, He's like, BC, I love

2517
01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:40,640
Speaker 2: your art, all right, I love you. I love m

2518
01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 2: K two, But can you please ask Luke to unblock

2519
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 2: me on Instagram? Luke, we've teased this in the past.

2520
01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:49,240
Speaker 2: You have blocked so many people from so many years back.

2521
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:52,920
Speaker 2: Who tell me, Guy, I didn't do anything wrong. All

2522
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 2: I said was this I say that now they want

2523
01:55:56,480 --> 01:55:59,080
Speaker 2: to be part of our family. Is there anything they

2524
01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 2: could do? I don't know, by merge something, what could

2525
01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:05,200
Speaker 2: they do that? One by one we could get you

2526
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 2: to unblock them on this show.

2527
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 1: By the way, every time someone is like I didn't

2528
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 1: do anything, yes you did. You absolutely did, and I

2529
01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:14,960
Speaker 1: decided to block you as a consequence number one. Number two.

2530
01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:19,000
Speaker 1: Usually if you're on suspension for you know, a little while,

2531
01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:22,120
Speaker 1: and I pumped the brakes on this, I'll let them off.

2532
01:56:22,840 --> 01:56:24,360
Speaker 1: He can write me and pleate his case. But if

2533
01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:26,600
Speaker 1: the argument is you did nothing wrong, you're wasting your time.

2534
01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:30,040
Speaker 2: All right, I'd like you to create something they could do.

2535
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:33,440
Speaker 2: Donate to your charity, something for me to advocate on

2536
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:34,080
Speaker 2: their beck.

2537
01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:35,200
Speaker 1: To get there. Yeah, you want to do that? You

2538
01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:37,480
Speaker 1: want to donate to a food bank in the city

2539
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:39,840
Speaker 1: of Washington, d C. I'll unblock you there.

2540
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:42,400
Speaker 2: You go send her Yeah, yeah, I don't hate that

2541
01:56:42,440 --> 01:56:43,800
Speaker 2: at all, all right, jonah G.

2542
01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:47,040
Speaker 1: Already know what BC. They could just venmo me fifty bucks.

2543
01:56:47,080 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 1: How about that?

2544
01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:50,440
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know where that. I don't trust where

2545
01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 2: that's going. Jonah G says. A dedication to the MK

2546
01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:57,080
Speaker 2: tradition of Luke completely no selling BC in his quote

2547
01:56:57,200 --> 01:56:58,360
Speaker 2: unique brand of.

2548
01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:06,400
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, listen. Sometimes you just gotta you gotta, you

2549
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 1: gotta move on past the frivolity, keep the show going.

2550
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:10,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

2551
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:12,920
Speaker 2: You wouldn't know art if I poured the whole bottle

2552
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:14,920
Speaker 2: of sauce over your head. All right, so let's just

2553
01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:17,800
Speaker 2: move on anyway. Matt s in the house, he says

2554
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 2: Luke and Brian after Brian gets Luke into the band

2555
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:21,480
Speaker 2: Weather Report.

2556
01:57:22,600 --> 01:57:33,120
Speaker 1: Let's see, dude, we are fucking dork ass losers.

2557
01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:40,000
Speaker 2: H shit, Oh yeah, look at this zooming Yes, Luke,

2558
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 2: yes we saw edibles kicking. Yes, all right. Uh at

2559
01:57:46,600 --> 01:57:49,240
Speaker 2: X tracks on Twitter gave us some m k art

2560
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:52,280
Speaker 2: this week. X tracks blows me up all the damn time. Uh, Luke,

2561
01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:54,920
Speaker 2: we couldn't play all of X tracks hits this week.

2562
01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:57,040
Speaker 2: But what do you think of this art putting our

2563
01:57:57,120 --> 01:57:58,920
Speaker 2: faces upon some famous works?

2564
01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:04,560
Speaker 1: Wow, once again there's artwork with my face and my

2565
01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:07,480
Speaker 1: hog at the same time, which is disturbing.

2566
01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:12,920
Speaker 2: My fucking hog. Yeah, we are going tips right there,

2567
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:13,840
Speaker 2: so I'll shout out to him.

2568
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 1: Not bad, It's interesting, all right.

2569
01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:18,720
Speaker 2: Steve b is back. He wants to know which one

2570
01:58:18,760 --> 01:58:20,760
Speaker 2: we would choose. What do we got here, Steve?

2571
01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:30,839
Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed, God that is that is that is America

2572
01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:31,800
Speaker 1: right there?

2573
01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:35,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, boo boo boo, wild thing is calling John. I

2574
01:58:35,760 --> 01:58:38,440
Speaker 2: think you would agree with me, all right, Luke henry

2575
01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:42,040
Speaker 2: K says, twenty three and me has confirmed it. Luke

2576
01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:46,000
Speaker 2: and Brian our family. Oh boy uh, Luke, that is

2577
01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:49,200
Speaker 2: of course the aw wrestling picture of Jay Hagar and

2578
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:53,840
Speaker 2: MJF and they are touching dogs. Indeed, all right, Henry

2579
01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:57,560
Speaker 2: henry K's not done, he says. Luke is always nitpicking

2580
01:58:57,640 --> 01:59:00,640
Speaker 2: how certain Spanish or Portuguese names should be prenounced, But

2581
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:03,720
Speaker 2: pronouncing van Go properly is asking way too much of

2582
01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:05,120
Speaker 2: old Naldo Thomas.

2583
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, but here's the thing again, just we are

2584
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:13,480
Speaker 1: surrounded by people who have no listening comprehension skills whatsoever.

2585
01:59:13,960 --> 01:59:15,720
Speaker 1: Remember what I said, BC, when we grew up in

2586
01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:18,520
Speaker 1: high school or elementary school, whatever, what do we always

2587
01:59:18,520 --> 01:59:20,560
Speaker 1: say Vincent van Go? Right, that was how it was

2588
01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 1: taught to us. Vincent van Go cut his zero off,

2589
01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:25,000
Speaker 1: blah blah blahlah blah. What I said was when I

2590
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:26,760
Speaker 1: went to the Vincent van Go Museum and I put

2591
01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:30,040
Speaker 1: on the headphones for the tour. They were saying Vincent

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01:59:30,200 --> 01:59:32,960
Speaker 1: van goh and, which I'm sure I'm saying wrong, but

2593
01:59:33,040 --> 01:59:36,000
Speaker 1: that's closer to yeah exactly. It sounded like that. That

2594
01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:37,920
Speaker 1: was the only point that I make. I don't have

2595
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:41,680
Speaker 1: any fucking idea how to pronounce the fucking Dutch here.

2596
01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:44,920
Speaker 1: So again a stupid meme by someone who doesn't listen.

2597
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:45,440
Speaker 1: But what can you do.

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01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:47,440
Speaker 2: It's like we're in Brazil, as they would say, Vincent

2599
01:59:47,560 --> 01:59:51,800
Speaker 2: van Honaldo, thank you very much. Kyler Kay slides in

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01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 2: with the don sins.

2601
01:59:55,960 --> 01:59:57,000
Speaker 1: I can't read what it says.

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01:59:58,400 --> 02:00:03,880
Speaker 2: Uh hold that up, please, jevodrds.

2603
02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:08,720
Speaker 1: That is awesome. Are you gonna wet your pants?

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02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Not bad? Tyler already have not bad. Tyler k

2605
02:00:12,280 --> 02:00:15,440
Speaker 2: jonah ll has a b cnlt meme. Let's see what

2606
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:24,680
Speaker 2: we got here, jonah full screen. Please I would put

2607
02:00:24,760 --> 02:00:26,640
Speaker 2: I would blow this up and put this on my wall.

2608
02:00:26,720 --> 02:00:29,440
Speaker 1: Yes, this is this is a poster. This is a

2609
02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:31,880
Speaker 1: poster that represents my life.

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02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:36,840
Speaker 2: Hey art Bombs on Instagram says, hello boys, thanks for

2611
02:00:36,960 --> 02:00:39,800
Speaker 2: the content much love. I did an illustration for the show.

2612
02:00:40,160 --> 02:00:43,560
Speaker 2: Hope you guys like it. Cheers Luke he calls us

2613
02:00:43,600 --> 02:00:46,440
Speaker 2: the Picassos of Mma. I love this right here.

2614
02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:49,480
Speaker 1: Well, it's weird because he actually made me more handsome

2615
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:52,240
Speaker 1: than I actually am, and he made you more scary

2616
02:00:52,320 --> 02:00:53,200
Speaker 1: than you actually are.

2617
02:00:53,800 --> 02:00:56,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I look like a cross between Sloth from Goonies

2618
02:00:56,360 --> 02:00:58,240
Speaker 2: and Marvin Vattori. Right here, this is great, but I'll

2619
02:00:58,280 --> 02:01:01,920
Speaker 2: take it. Luke, all right, this is this is well

2620
02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:02,960
Speaker 2: done on the artwork there.

2621
02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:03,400
Speaker 1: I like that.

2622
02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:06,640
Speaker 2: Appreciate that. We got to keep going here, Eduardo Romero

2623
02:01:07,040 --> 02:01:10,240
Speaker 2: m says, life of Brian, honk if you love Brian?

2624
02:01:12,160 --> 02:01:15,200
Speaker 1: Is this supposed to be like a take on the

2625
02:01:15,280 --> 02:01:16,160
Speaker 1: Monty Python thing?

2626
02:01:16,680 --> 02:01:18,720
Speaker 2: Yes, yes it is, Luke. Your thoughts who's the third

2627
02:01:18,920 --> 02:01:19,720
Speaker 2: who's the third man?

2628
02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:21,200
Speaker 1: There? That is that Jay?

2629
02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:28,720
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes it is, Yes it is. I love Brian

2630
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:32,680
Speaker 2: on the bottom. All right, Well, hey, Luke Mouhamer is back.

2631
02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:34,560
Speaker 2: Remember he sent you to hell over the Ronaldo thing

2632
02:01:34,680 --> 02:01:36,360
Speaker 2: last week? He says, Hello, I want to hear b

2633
02:01:36,400 --> 02:01:41,040
Speaker 2: I apologize to Luke and end the Naldo saga. After all,

2634
02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:44,920
Speaker 2: he says he owns three Rinaldo jerseys, so I assume

2635
02:01:44,960 --> 02:01:46,880
Speaker 2: he knows how to pronounce it. This is how I

2636
02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:49,920
Speaker 2: imagine his Marine Corps room. Must have looked during his

2637
02:01:50,040 --> 02:01:54,960
Speaker 2: time there kind regards Muhammer. It's spelled like Muhammad, he says,

2638
02:01:55,520 --> 02:01:56,760
Speaker 2: just with an R at the end.

2639
02:01:57,280 --> 02:01:59,640
Speaker 1: So I don't have I don't have posters like a

2640
02:01:59,720 --> 02:02:04,000
Speaker 1: girl who reads Tiger Beat magazine. But yes I do.

2641
02:02:04,960 --> 02:02:06,840
Speaker 1: I missed the man. What can I say? He is

2642
02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:09,240
Speaker 1: now playing in Italy and my team is in shambles.

2643
02:02:09,280 --> 02:02:09,880
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do?

2644
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:13,880
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Luke, you look young and confused in this picture.

2645
02:02:13,920 --> 02:02:15,120
Speaker 1: But that's fine. That sounds a right.

2646
02:02:16,200 --> 02:02:18,440
Speaker 2: Kevin l slides him, We've got a couple more for

2647
02:02:18,520 --> 02:02:31,440
Speaker 2: you with a Luke meme. See what this is? So true, Luke,

2648
02:02:31,640 --> 02:02:32,240
Speaker 2: so true.

2649
02:02:32,480 --> 02:02:37,400
Speaker 1: Yes, that is the greatest thing I've ever seen. That

2650
02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:40,120
Speaker 1: is the greatest thing I'm ever seeing I've ever seen.

2651
02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:44,560
Speaker 2: All Right, tough to follow that, Paul G says, Hey, guys,

2652
02:02:44,640 --> 02:02:46,600
Speaker 2: I kept waiting for someone else to do this, but

2653
02:02:46,720 --> 02:02:48,480
Speaker 2: when no one else did, I was forced to put

2654
02:02:48,520 --> 02:02:52,280
Speaker 2: my own terrible photoshop skills to work. Beige versus Brown,

2655
02:02:52,440 --> 02:02:54,360
Speaker 2: The Battle of Luke's Heart.

2656
02:02:54,600 --> 02:02:57,800
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, by the way, you have a greater reach

2657
02:02:57,920 --> 02:03:00,400
Speaker 1: than big Brown. But you weigh one pound left you

2658
02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:00,760
Speaker 1: buy that?

2659
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:04,480
Speaker 2: No, No, no, I'm not nearly as thick as that guy.

2660
02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:06,800
Speaker 2: Come on, you know I'm getting thin these days. Look okay,

2661
02:03:06,920 --> 02:03:09,200
Speaker 2: all right, shout out to shout out to the big

2662
02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:11,880
Speaker 2: one there, the brown the brown guy. All right, Paul

2663
02:03:11,960 --> 02:03:13,760
Speaker 2: g well done. There for the battle of Luke's heart.

2664
02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:16,600
Speaker 2: Alan w is gonna close us out with three of them, Luke.

2665
02:03:16,840 --> 02:03:19,160
Speaker 2: Here's the first one BC at a museum, kim we

2666
02:03:19,240 --> 02:03:24,960
Speaker 2: zoom in is David r Or hot dogs are what is?

2667
02:03:25,200 --> 02:03:25,240
Speaker 1: Ur?

2668
02:03:25,400 --> 02:03:25,920
Speaker 2: Are we are?

2669
02:03:28,320 --> 02:03:29,720
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, he's tea bagging you.

2670
02:03:31,240 --> 02:03:34,920
Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, second one up is Brian two beers Campbell

2671
02:03:35,040 --> 02:03:37,040
Speaker 2: here it's supposed to be a room service diarytry o.

2672
02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:45,200
Speaker 1: Wait, this is a real thing. This is a real thing.

2673
02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:47,440
Speaker 1: When BC used to say it, he'd be like, oh,

2674
02:03:47,480 --> 02:03:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm not really good for more than two beers. Now

2675
02:03:49,240 --> 02:03:51,640
Speaker 1: he can do more than that. But here's the reality

2676
02:03:51,680 --> 02:03:55,560
Speaker 1: about him. I've found he will have situations where he'll

2677
02:03:55,600 --> 02:03:59,480
Speaker 1: have literally two at most three beers, and he will

2678
02:03:59,520 --> 02:04:02,640
Speaker 1: be fucking wrecked the next day. It's the weirdest shit

2679
02:04:02,720 --> 02:04:03,320
Speaker 1: I've ever seen.

2680
02:04:04,000 --> 02:04:05,960
Speaker 2: It is. It's a curse. It's not that it's not fun.

2681
02:04:06,040 --> 02:04:08,520
Speaker 2: Lug all right, Alan's got one more to end it here.

2682
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:11,720
Speaker 2: Last is a Luke meme or the album cover. Not

2683
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:13,040
Speaker 2: so sure?

2684
02:04:15,800 --> 02:04:21,080
Speaker 1: What's it say? Al alpa al Pacinos, Booty Sweat Energy.

2685
02:04:20,880 --> 02:04:24,320
Speaker 2: D Booty Sweat Energy Drink.

2686
02:04:24,520 --> 02:04:27,840
Speaker 1: Wow, listen, these people know me BC, this is this

2687
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:28,560
Speaker 1: is my life.

2688
02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:32,720
Speaker 2: They do well done, folks, Morning Coombat at gmail dot com. Look,

2689
02:04:32,760 --> 02:04:35,120
Speaker 2: we did a two hour freakin shaw. Who would have thought.

2690
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:37,480
Speaker 1: Luke, I know, on a Wednesday, No less on a Wednesday.

2691
02:04:38,320 --> 02:04:40,560
Speaker 1: Good stuff. By the way, for folks who want to

2692
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:43,080
Speaker 1: send us stuff for fans submissions, we love it when

2693
02:04:43,120 --> 02:04:44,840
Speaker 1: you do this stuff today was really good. As a

2694
02:04:44,880 --> 02:04:46,400
Speaker 1: matter of fact. I mean, by the way, you can

2695
02:04:46,480 --> 02:04:48,520
Speaker 1: just be a picture of you wearing MK merch wherever

2696
02:04:48,560 --> 02:04:50,600
Speaker 1: you live or something doesn't. You don't have to be

2697
02:04:50,640 --> 02:04:53,480
Speaker 1: a photoshop wizard. Morning Coombat at gmail dot com. You

2698
02:04:53,520 --> 02:04:54,840
Speaker 1: see it right there. That's the place to get them

2699
02:04:54,880 --> 02:04:56,800
Speaker 1: all in. You can also dm your dick pics to

2700
02:04:56,840 --> 02:04:59,280
Speaker 1: Brian on Instagram. He tends to love those. As my

2701
02:04:59,400 --> 02:05:02,240
Speaker 1: daughter has an absolute rage meltdown. It should have been

2702
02:05:02,320 --> 02:05:06,720
Speaker 1: my daughter versus Godzilla versus Kong during my podcast hours.

2703
02:05:06,800 --> 02:05:09,680
Speaker 1: During my podcast hours, she could beat the fuck out

2704
02:05:09,680 --> 02:05:11,560
Speaker 1: of those two at any point by virtue of the

2705
02:05:11,680 --> 02:05:12,920
Speaker 1: meltdowns that she has. It's great.

2706
02:05:13,000 --> 02:05:13,240
Speaker 3: I love.

2707
02:05:13,400 --> 02:05:15,720
Speaker 2: My two favorite things about your house during our podcast

2708
02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:17,440
Speaker 2: is when a boil and lets your daughter get too

2709
02:05:17,480 --> 02:05:19,560
Speaker 2: close to the door and doesn't step in, and when

2710
02:05:19,560 --> 02:05:21,480
Speaker 2: your wife just walks through with a bathrobe ont just

2711
02:05:21,520 --> 02:05:22,240
Speaker 2: walks right through.

2712
02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:25,800
Speaker 1: Luke. Yeah, we had a conversation about that. I had

2713
02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:28,800
Speaker 1: to have a little conversation with her. Uh okay, So

2714
02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:30,760
Speaker 1: let's do the standard disclaimer here. BC and I are

2715
02:05:30,840 --> 02:05:33,000
Speaker 1: on social media. Of course MK is as well. You

2716
02:05:33,080 --> 02:05:36,280
Speaker 1: can see it's MK everywhere. Morning Combat at Gmail, YouTube

2717
02:05:36,280 --> 02:05:38,640
Speaker 1: dot com, slash morning Combat, Morning Combat on Twitter, Morning

2718
02:05:38,680 --> 02:05:41,080
Speaker 1: Combat on Insta for Brian and I. The names differ

2719
02:05:41,160 --> 02:05:43,640
Speaker 1: a little bit between Instagram and Twitter, so take a

2720
02:05:43,680 --> 02:05:45,800
Speaker 1: look there, give us a follow if you're so inclined.

2721
02:05:46,560 --> 02:05:48,480
Speaker 1: And we mentioned, of course already the email address. If

2722
02:05:48,480 --> 02:05:50,120
Speaker 1: you want to try Showtime free for thirty days, you

2723
02:05:50,160 --> 02:05:53,160
Speaker 1: certainly can. Showtime dot com is the place to go.

2724
02:05:53,640 --> 02:05:54,960
Speaker 1: If you like it, you can keep it. If not,

2725
02:05:55,120 --> 02:05:56,840
Speaker 1: you can go much your mery day and go get

2726
02:05:56,880 --> 02:05:59,560
Speaker 1: COVID tests like I'm about to have, and then you

2727
02:05:59,600 --> 02:06:01,200
Speaker 1: want to get some merch like BC has on his

2728
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:03,960
Speaker 1: head there for the winner. Highly appropriate to get one

2729
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:05,920
Speaker 1: of these beanies, you can go to store dot show

2730
02:06:06,040 --> 02:06:08,600
Speaker 1: dot com and you can get them live chat tomorrow

2731
02:06:09,120 --> 02:06:12,400
Speaker 1: three pm in the East Friday, we will preview all

2732
02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:15,320
Speaker 1: the UFC fights BC Any final thoughts.

2733
02:06:16,160 --> 02:06:18,000
Speaker 2: Please, people check out a great interview with Luke and

2734
02:06:18,080 --> 02:06:20,040
Speaker 2: Dustin Pourrier. A lot of in depth stuff and also

2735
02:06:20,360 --> 02:06:22,080
Speaker 2: people liking as you mentioned, off the top, me and

2736
02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:25,320
Speaker 2: Sugar Rashad Evans going storytime. We focus on his UFC

2737
02:06:25,480 --> 02:06:28,560
Speaker 2: seventy three draw with tit Ortiz. Lots of gold in that.

2738
02:06:28,640 --> 02:06:31,560
Speaker 2: Shout to Rashad for being so candid. Please continue to

2739
02:06:31,600 --> 02:06:35,280
Speaker 2: support all of our bonus material. It is MK all day,

2740
02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:39,040
Speaker 2: nearly every day. You got a hole, we'll fill it there.

2741
02:06:39,120 --> 02:06:40,880
Speaker 1: You have it all right. Thank you to Malka, out

2742
02:06:40,920 --> 02:06:43,280
Speaker 1: to CBS Sports and to Showtime. I'll talk with you

2743
02:06:43,400 --> 02:06:46,360
Speaker 1: all at three pm tomorrow and until then, may all

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Speaker 1: of your gains be loyal