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Speaker 4: You know, I would like to think that the contributions,

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Speaker 4: you know, that Belichick has made matter. And I understand

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Speaker 4: Fred's point.

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Speaker 3: Maybe because I'm getting up there and I'm there, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, yeah, I've done good things. You're probably right, Brett.

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Speaker 3: But even then, they had the stripes. It was like stripes.

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Speaker 3: It's like, what is like a soccer shirt kit kit?

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Speaker 3: This is a kid I say the same thing about

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Speaker 3: pat Patriots At that time, nobody liked that damn logo.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand. Like grown men, how like they're so

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Speaker 3: infatuated by uniforms, like Mike, like this is a win,

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Speaker 3: good job. Freshmen basketball were at practice and half of

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Speaker 3: us were hung over. The other half we're sick. Brad

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Speaker 3: Kimball took a tip off and started dribbling the wrong

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Speaker 3: the coach kicked me out of the brass. He's the

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Speaker 5: The wrong way to coach. Things aren't going well for me.

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Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, the team does well

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Speaker 4: and you have that conflicted feeling.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's why I did individual sports. Eventually.

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Speaker 3: Well you're welcome, so I can guarantee you within no,

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Speaker 3: maybe a couple of days. You'll be so sick of

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Speaker 3: that read. But anyway, we are here. It is training camp,

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Speaker 3: conditioning run today for the players. Tomorrow we will be

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Speaker 3: out live at nine fifteen at our usual perch high

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Speaker 3: above the practice fields, and we're going to bring you

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Speaker 3: the first day of camp from our perspective, as well

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Speaker 3: as Thursday and Friday and Monday, which looks to be

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Speaker 3: the first day of padded practice, so a big week

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Speaker 3: ahead of us. But here we are today. It's Deuce,

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Speaker 3: it's Paul, it's myself, Evan will be here, Tamara will

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Speaker 3: be here, Matt's in the booth, so we get a

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Speaker 3: lot to talk about, guys.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what to start with. I mean, the

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Speaker 7: last show of the offseason. It feels like we heard

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Speaker 7: from Bill this morning, signed a couple guys yesterday, so

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Speaker 7: it's all it's all coming together. I think you can

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Speaker 7: feel the segment this morning in our.

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Speaker 3: Obliminatory Navy signing, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: How does that? How do you say that one called

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Speaker 5: for go go, thank you. I'm really trying hard on

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Speaker 7: I want to say it effortlessly and not have to

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Speaker 7: pause and make sure I got him right before I

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I hope not to have to say it,

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Speaker 4: because I know I'm going to do something wrong. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: I'm a little intrigued by the other signing. Jalen Hurd

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Speaker 4: And Yeah, I thought it was interesting listening to Bill

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Speaker 4: this morning. He was asked, Now, for those who don't know,

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Speaker 4: a spread. He became a wide receiver, and Bill said

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Speaker 3: What are the numbers?

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Speaker 3: But it's it's you know, it's why is he available?

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Speaker 7: He I think he had back injury. The first he's

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Speaker 5: But back injury, acl injury.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's it's three years basically lost and so

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Speaker 5: But you know, this is what they kind of do.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's it's you know, flea market shopping.

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Speaker 7: You know, you're kind of looking for something like, hey,

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Speaker 7: this has got a little ding in it. But I think,

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Speaker 7: you know, if we give it a chance and we

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Speaker 7: out okay for us. So, I mean I said before

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Speaker 7: six of the ten receivers on their roster have not

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Speaker 4: Do you remember when I said a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 4: That's this is the kind of like you need I

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Speaker 4: don't know what the number is, but ten or twelve

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Speaker 4: to to just run right run routes, you know, so

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and for those new to this game, there's going

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Speaker 4: Even yesterday, I think there was a list of about

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Speaker 3: There'll be guys getting cut, re signed, guys signing getting

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Speaker 7: You know, somebody gets hurt, it'll be somebody gets signed.

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Speaker 3: You need ninety bodies. You need ninety bodies out there,

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Speaker 3: and so you know, you try, you take a flyer

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and then I think the other two big pieces,

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Speaker 7: I think there was some speculation of will is he

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Speaker 7: he has. We saw a bunch of guys walking off

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Speaker 5: Though, those days look like they're gonna be uh, you know.

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Speaker 3: Real real hot.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, it's uh Jack Jones, I guess it's going

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Speaker 7: of ride it out, see what happens. I think the

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Speaker 7: next we can't talk about it ongoing legal situation.

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Speaker 4: I was talking about his cornerback. I can't talk about.

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Speaker 7: We'll see in Green Bay what happens with, you know,

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Speaker 7: joint practices. But I guess for now it'll just be

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Speaker 3: They should just trot out his lawyer.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I'm sure she'd be down for it.

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Speaker 5: She's ready to go. Uh yeah.

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Speaker 4: So no Jerry, like Jim Murray when he goes into

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Speaker 4: those rants. Oh yeah, he goes that's all alleged. You

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Speaker 4: lose us, all right, stop bothering my client, you lose it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So this is big. It's everybody's here ready to go.

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Speaker 5: Feel the energy, I think a little bit. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, maybe it's just seeing the guys walk down

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Speaker 3: We have our weekly department meeting, and we have a

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Speaker 3: we have it every Tuesday at eleven And I was

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Speaker 3: It was with loud music.

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Speaker 4: It was lively today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, everybody, I think is excited now. You know,

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Speaker 4: But the one thing I think that happens every year

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Speaker 4: There is an excitement. It's like we're going to camp.

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Speaker 4: It's the first day of camp, and it's new. There's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have new faces on our staff too, not

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Speaker 4: like within our you know, I shouldn't say our, within

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Speaker 4: He's the we are all Patriots, and tonight the Patriots

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Speaker 7: Technically, well maybe it was to the content team my

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Speaker 7: little Barbie trip last night too.

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Speaker 4: So oh I let them. I gave them the what for. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: didn't miss it. What I missed was the invitation. There

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Speaker 4: you go, you didn't How do you expect me to

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Speaker 4: go if I don't know what's happened?

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Speaker 3: I went Saturday. I saw Barbie, did you really?

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Speaker 5: Two thumbs up from you?

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Speaker 3: He was okay. I was hoping to laugh more. I

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Speaker 3: the design, the set design, and the unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: I will probably see it, but can I just ask

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Speaker 4: Like, I'm a little disappointed by your five second synopsis there,

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Speaker 4: I was hoping to laugh more. Yeah, I'm here for that,

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Speaker 4: like you you like, do you just see what they do?

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Speaker 4: Like I assume you've seen the Toy Story movies. Like

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Speaker 4: the Barbie character and the Toy Story movies is absolutely hilarious.

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Speaker 4: Like I laugh at every element that they have with

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Speaker 4: Barbie and Ken did they not do that? And they

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Speaker 4: went serious likesage, just how miserable you are as a man.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of I'm not I'm not ready for that.

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Speaker 4: I get told how idiotically and.

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Speaker 3: I didn't mind that. And there was a lot of

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Speaker 3: was there was a couple you know, haha out loud,

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Speaker 3: Day for Camping. You're talking about barbies.

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Speaker 7: Well, in our defense, we did touch on the major

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Speaker 7: I'm sure he was on Nantucket, just off Nantucket probably

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Speaker 3: You didn't catch that for a guy who's okay, I

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Speaker 3: talk about Jack Jones, that's fine. Did you expect him to?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm an idiot.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I've seen him a lot worse than today.

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Speaker 7: I mean I thought, uh that Trump Brown with with

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Speaker 5: I'm like, don't worry. Great, that's all you that's all

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Speaker 4: Like the fact that Trent Brown is here is.

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Speaker 5: Bill O'Brien, the offense.

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Speaker 4: Can the offense be fixed?

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Speaker 3: All fair question, all fair answers. You know what his

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Speaker 4: But for a guy like him, who's listen, I like

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Speaker 7: I think Paul's rubbed off on me with Trent Brown

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Speaker 4: If you ask me, he wants more money, okay, that's

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Speaker 3: I have hope for Trent Brown this year. I think

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Speaker 4: I'm not asking for anything else, anything more than that

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think all those things that we said were

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Speaker 7: I mean, we'll get a sense with Mac and Bill O'Brien,

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Speaker 3: You know. Can we all make a promise to each

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Speaker 4: Four days that's the perfect one.

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Speaker 5: This is him meant for this stuff. Running back and let's.

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Speaker 3: Not like you stop to start again. We have an

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 7: Fred, I'm gonna say, don't google at his athleticism too much.

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Speaker 5: Google at football plays.

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Speaker 7: And when we get into padd and stuff like, you know,

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Speaker 3: first round draft pick cornerback in the NFL. I think

441
00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,880
Speaker 3: maybe it might be the second toughest position in the NFL, cornerback.

442
00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,200
Speaker 3: I would agree with that, you know, So let's let's

443
00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,359
Speaker 3: let's give him a shot here, Let's give him a break.

444
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:55,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

445
00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,479
Speaker 7: And I mean, and that's I mean that goes from

446
00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,240
Speaker 7: any time people have written into the mail bag or

447
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,359
Speaker 7: ask me about and all I say, you know, not

448
00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:02,919
Speaker 7: that I'm down on him in any way. I just

449
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,719
Speaker 7: I think he's a young kid. I think that high hopes.

450
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,440
Speaker 7: But let's just it's gonna take some time. Like unfortunately,

451
00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,600
Speaker 7: he's probably not gonna be as good as Sauce Gardner

452
00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,159
Speaker 7: is right out of the gate. Like you know, I

453
00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,440
Speaker 7: just I've accepted that there's gonna be some times when

454
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,919
Speaker 7: he gets burned, and that's okay, you know. I just

455
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,959
Speaker 7: think that he has so many tools that you just,

456
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 7: no matter what kind of growing pains he shows, be patient.

457
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,160
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I'm higher. I think there's a good skill

458
00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,840
Speaker 4: set there. I'm anxious to see him play, but.

459
00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,919
Speaker 3: I don't jump the gun either way.

460
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, don't worry about what you see the first

461
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,160
Speaker 4: four days. Wait till we get into camp, and then

462
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,960
Speaker 4: wait even more importantly too, when they head to Green

463
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 4: Bay and Tennessee.

464
00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,399
Speaker 5: I tell you what, I just want to see the

465
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 5: first four days. That's what I'm thinking.

466
00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,440
Speaker 7: Offense though, that's like and and just to the point

467
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,240
Speaker 7: of what we saw last year that this looks like

468
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:45,280
Speaker 7: everyone's on the same page.

469
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,919
Speaker 5: The ball isn't hitting the ground Day.

470
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,440
Speaker 4: One, How excited we were. Jimmer was born in Parker

471
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,720
Speaker 4: with all the red zone. It was all red zones.

472
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,040
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know, if you know. We

473
00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 4: always started they were catching touchdowns and Parker was head

474
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 4: topping guys and everybody was all this enthusiasm and Bourne

475
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 4: was playing to the crowd, and then it never worked again.

476
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 4: Like starting day two. It went progressively downhill the rest

477
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 4: of camp. So it'll be interesting to see if they can.

478
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,920
Speaker 4: And I heard on my show with one of my.

479
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 3: Guys, could be any one of six shows in this

480
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 3: Mark McCarthy.

481
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 4: I heard Felder, you know, really hammering home that point yesterday,

482
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,239
Speaker 4: like they he feels like it's really important that they

483
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 4: got off to a good start. And he's not talking

484
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 4: about against Philadelphia, he's talking about tomorrow. Yeah, Like there's

485
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,439
Speaker 4: relationships that sort of need to be fixed, there's a

486
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 4: confidence level that needs to be built. I agree, Yeah,

487
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,360
Speaker 4: I think some of that stuff will start right away tomorrow,

488
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 4: and hopefully we don't see the signs that we saw.

489
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 4: They were a parent from a hundred rows up and

490
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Speaker 4: our vantage point up in the red level. You could

491
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 4: see them on the field, and hopefully we don't see

492
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 4: some of those things starting tomorrow.

493
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Speaker 7: It was just, I mean, you remember how I was

494
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 7: losing my mind about the contested catches with it.

495
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 4: It was every successful play was a contested catch up,

496
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 4: and no way to go.

497
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 7: Then it'd be an occasional agalore down the sideline, you know,

498
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 7: again really tight though contested. I just I don't want

499
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 7: to see that, you know, occasional shot plays with check down,

500
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 7: check down, check down incomplete. You know that that was

501
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,360
Speaker 7: the rhythm that we got into on the offense last

502
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 7: year and it and they, like you said, Paul, they

503
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,640
Speaker 7: never really broke out of it. So I think, as

504
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,679
Speaker 7: much you don't want to overreact either way on the offense,

505
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 7: I think that they'll be you know, some kind of

506
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:29,919
Speaker 7: inkling of how it's.

507
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 3: Going with it. I mean with Bill's press conference to

508
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 3: the other thing I you know you had to catch

509
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 3: is he really hates the fact that you can't do

510
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 3: anything in practice anymore, Like he kind of you know,

511
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 3: they suggested that a few times during his press conference

512
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 3: that you know, we can't do you can't do football things.

513
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 3: You know, we don't know how guys are until they

514
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 3: start doing football things, and we can't do football.

515
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 7: Things until like next week, right, And he said, I

516
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 7: think like they had fifty practices in one of like

517
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 7: the old school training camps, of which is excessive.

518
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 5: I mean, that's the other you don't need that much.

519
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 4: But every seven every year he goes through that thing

520
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 4: just to tell you, oh wow, you know we reported

521
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 4: on July third, and you know we had three scrimmages

522
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 4: and six preseason games. I could almost tell you chapter

523
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 4: in first what he said. He says every year, and

524
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 4: you know it was, you know, eight weeks. And but

525
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 4: what he's eliminating is what about the eight week OTA

526
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 4: program that you just finished. They didn't have those then.

527
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 3: But you can't do anything.

528
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 4: No, I understand, Like the contact is a different. Oh yeah,

529
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 4: that's a whole different thing. I'm just talking with you.

530
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 4: Not a practices ain't that different because back then, But

531
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Speaker 4: they are.

532
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 3: That's his point.

533
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 4: The amount of contact is different, is my.

534
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 3: Point, and that's what football is. His point is, we're

535
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 3: not practicing football. We're practicing our plays and what. But

536
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 3: we're not jamming, we're not blocking, we're not hitting, we're

537
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 3: not tackling. That's football.

538
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 4: So why is everybody else?

539
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 5: Okay?

540
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: Everybody else isn't Okay. I'm sure this is a lament

541
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 3: with all the head coaches, at least the old guys.

542
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 4: You know exactly exactly, Well, yeah.

543
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 3: These that's but like if you can't practice, how you play.

544
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 4: In nineteen eighty No, like if you couldn't do it

545
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 4: the way they did it that, I think you're right.

546
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 4: I think you just hit it. At least the old

547
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 4: guys probably feel that way.

548
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 5: I agree.

549
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 3: No, I know, but you're not from them a football

550
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 3: if you're not playing it like.

551
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 4: That's fine. That's what he thinks. It's a parent that's

552
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 4: what he thinks.

553
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I this hole.

554
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 4: We're going to continue to use the start of the

555
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 4: season as an extension of the preseason. Yeah, yeah, it

556
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 4: ain't working anymore.

557
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 3: No, but I'm just saying it's I think, not just

558
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 3: for the Patriots. I think it's kind of silly that

559
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 3: you can't really practice football for most of you know,

560
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 3: in practice anymore.

561
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean then, but I think, like you know, Paul,

562
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 7: think what you were getting on too, is like that

563
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 7: back then April May, they weren't here.

564
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 5: It's not anything like you know.

565
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 4: So it's they've done a lot of work that you

566
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 4: can't do then at a different time of year.

567
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 3: Different types, but okay, different type of content.

568
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 4: You're right, You'm not. I'm not arguing with you about

569
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 4: the contact. There's no comparison between the amount of contact,

570
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 4: but it's been like that for a long time. I

571
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 4: know it, and everybody else has adapted and adjusted.

572
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 3: Well, he's not saying that he hasn't adapted.

573
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 4: Everybody's on this side.

574
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Speaker 3: I don't think what he's being asked about like evaluation

575
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 3: type questions. It's tough to evaluate these guys until we

576
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: start being able to have contact because that's football.

577
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was I mean, and that was.

578
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 3: Wide receiver gets a free release on every play. It's

579
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: gonna look different than when somebody starts putting their hands

580
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Speaker 3: on it.

581
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 4: But I thought that was a good answer from Bill.

582
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 4: I mean, it's pretty simple. But when the Pets come.

583
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 5: On next week, can actually start and.

584
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 4: Then we start, then we start evaluating. I I totally

585
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 4: get that. I'm one hundred percent with Bill on that.

586
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: But even then, it's not full contact.

587
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 5: It's not full of the ground tackling.

588
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 7: I mean, and we didn't really even see much of that,

589
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 7: like goal line like I mean, because I remember, like

590
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 7: there's not much of that anymore either. Like you know,

591
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 7: though we seem like the first play a camp with

592
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 7: I remember James Devlon talking to me about it. You

593
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 7: know that that's one of the first days of pads

594
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 7: that they put a full back in.

595
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Speaker 3: You know, I want remember Bryant College, Ted Johnson and

596
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: Sam Gash. Oh yeah, it's like two mountain goats.

597
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 5: They used to do that.

598
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I would just say that the game is

599
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 4: better today. But that's just me like.

600
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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I agree that.

601
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Speaker 7: I mean then that seems like not really doing it

602
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 7: to really get better or try something.

603
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 4: It's just maybe that's seven. No, I don't want that.

604
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 4: I don't want that, and I don't want fifty two

605
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 4: to forty nine games. I don't want that. I understand

606
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 4: what you're talking about. I just I don't think in

607
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 4: my time here since ninety nine, I have not seen

608
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 4: really any tackling to the ground ever, other than live

609
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 4: goal line drills, which they have not done in recent years.

610
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 4: In Fred's right, you would get Sam Gash and Ted

611
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 4: Johnson on the goal line live as it can possibly be.

612
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 4: You don't see that anymore. But I never saw from

613
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 4: Pete Carroll all the way through to now, I've never

614
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 4: saw any consistent tackling to the ground, And I think

615
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 4: that makes a lot of sense, Like you want to

616
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 4: avoid that wear in terror as long as you can.

617
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 5: I just love the one guys, tap people off like

618
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 5: I would have.

619
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 4: Had them a little tap on the hip, the little tap.

620
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 4: Not sure you were there to make that play, Bud.

621
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 3: Anyway, it's different.

622
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,239
Speaker 5: It's a lot.

623
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 4: There's fred I'm not arguing with It's it's night and

624
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 4: day different, no question.

625
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you think it's better, it might be.

626
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 4: I think it's better for the players. It's better for

627
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 4: the offense, it's better for the but like the players

628
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 4: wear in tear. Can you imagine what you must have

629
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 4: felt like heading into week one of the regular season,

630
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 4: coming off of really nine weeks of games, three screens

631
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 4: in six in six games, you'd be dead.

632
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 3: Have they done the studies of like injuries like thirty

633
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 3: years ago?

634
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about like injuries in general. I'm not

635
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 4: like comparing the data because the data is not really

636
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 4: available like it is now. Like I'm sorry, Like if

637
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 4: Tua landed on his back the way he did against

638
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 4: Cincinnati and hit his head, true, he wasn't leaving the game.

639
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, the concussion thing. Can't compare it to.

640
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 4: The nineteen eight So this belt, the fact that there

641
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,719
Speaker 4: weren't as many injuries documented doesn't tell me anything.

642
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 7: Who Ever thought that was a good idea like why

643
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 7: don't we play a whole season before we play the season?

644
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 5: Like when was that ever?

645
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 10: Like?

646
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 11: Who?

647
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 3: Why?

648
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 4: But I do think that some of those old school

649
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 4: guys thought that was the only way you can do it,

650
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 4: because that's the way we did it.

651
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: Other thing, and we.

652
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 4: Didn't have a water bottle. We had a ladel that

653
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 4: we put in the bucket, and everybody used the same ladel.

654
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 3: I mean, even in our lifetime, it was fourteen games,

655
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 3: you know, and now then it went to sixteen. Now

656
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 3: it's seventeen, and it's going.

657
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 4: To those things. I agree with you on it, like

658
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 4: I think those things are going in the wrong direction.

659
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: But I'm what I'm saying, I'm gonna hear. I'm going

660
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Speaker 3: to play your side of the fence, Paul. Is the

661
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 3: longer you're a season, the more you kind of do

662
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 3: need to monitor these guys and ease up a little

663
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 3: bit so that they can last eighteen games plus playoffs.

664
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and again I'm not arguing there's no there's no

665
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 4: comparison these camps. It's almost like a country club now

666
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 4: compared so even the way it was when I first started.

667
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 7: The worst thing is when it's hot, Like that's like

668
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 7: when hot today, right, that's about his back.

669
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 4: It's a lot of instruction, Like there's a lot of

670
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 4: like this is what we're going to do, as opposed

671
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 4: to let's do it.

672
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

673
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, So you think Fred eighteen two preseason.

674
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 3: Without doubt, that's coming without a doubt.

675
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 7: I kind of like it. Like I hate seventeen games.

676
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 5: I hate I hate the odd. I'd rather go eighteen.

677
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 3: Like I'd rather go eighteen, you know. Yeah, it's so hard.

678
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 5: It's still on, Like I think they're an eight and

679
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 5: nine team, Like it doesn't feel natural.

680
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 3: The only good thing about the only good thing about

681
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: the odd numbers. You can't have a five hundred team.

682
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 5: Right right, I know, so you never really know for

683
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 5: sure we're five hundred.

684
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 3: You can't have it. You're you're either a winning team

685
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 3: or a losing team. And I kind of like that.

686
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's no there's no but I mean we didn't

687
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 7: have a losing record, you know, there's not that anymore.

688
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 4: But Tomlin did it right, Yeah, he went eight eight

689
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 4: and one one, never had a losing record.

690
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 5: Can we can we mention patuce bergeron.

691
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: That's a oh yeah, he called it quits today.

692
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 4: Tough one produced and he's one of my now he's

693
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 4: one of my favorite.

694
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 7: Special special Boston athletes.

695
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 5: I don't think he ever really did anything wrong. No, Like,

696
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 5: the guy.

697
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 4: Is really really good player. I don't want to call

698
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 4: him a great.

699
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: Play What about driving up Butcher Cassidy.

700
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 4: I was disappointed in him last year, but I think

701
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 4: he was part of that. I think he could have

702
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 4: at the very least, I think he could have prevented that.

703
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 3: And then Jalen Brown got a lot of money.

704
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 4: Him supermac's highest paid playout player in NBA history for

705
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 4: a moment, until till the next guy, until the next guy.

706
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 5: Did you see?

707
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 7: Speaking of contracts, you see I saw Burrow. Burrow's kind

708
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 7: of playing easy with with his contracts because he doesn't

709
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 7: want to sign before Herbert signs. So like, you know,

710
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 7: you've kind of you're starting to get like these like

711
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 7: staredowns now on contracts between those places.

712
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 5: I'm sure it's probably happened in the past, right, there

713
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 5: have been guys.

714
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 4: That, yeah, the quarterback is a real thing, you know,

715
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 4: and then.

716
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 7: You have hurts. He probably might be up for one

717
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 7: down maybe next year.

718
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Speaker 3: And I was wondering what Cincinnati's gonna do with Burrow.

719
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 4: Well, Borrow's gonna sign. It's the question to me is

720
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 4: what are they going to do with the pieces around him?

721
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 4: Like they've already worked with Mixing, they redid his deal,

722
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 4: which is going to make it far easier for him

723
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 4: to be on the team next year. Do they do

724
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 4: something with t Higgins because I think Tyler Boyd probably

725
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 4: as closest to the end and they could probably lose him.

726
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 4: You can flip him, I think, maybe save some money.

727
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 4: But yeah, they have some skilled position guys and some

728
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 4: pieces around Burrow that they probably want to keep. They

729
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 4: lost the safety from last year that Jesse Bates right, Yep,

730
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 4: that's that's gonna be hard. I think if Burrow does

731
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 4: the Brady thing and not necessarily take less, but structure

732
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 4: it in a way where you don't have to get

733
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 4: every last time, you know, there's obviously things you could do.

734
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 4: My issue there for Cincinnati. If I were a Bengals fan,

735
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 4: I'd be scared to death because I think that is

736
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 4: a really, really cheap ownership group.

737
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 5: And that's that's what makes me excited, because like if.

738
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 4: It was if it was another team, I would say,

739
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 4: don't worry about the cap, you know, give me the

740
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 4: napkin and blah blah blah blah. We'll do that in

741
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 4: five minutes. But with Cincinnati, they're worried about where every

742
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 4: last dollar is going. There's any chance that they don't,

743
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 4: they can't. They don't certain him and borrow. That would

744
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 4: be zero points zero.

745
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's an Ohio guy. I mean the

746
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 3: state would revolt. Oh, I love it.

747
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 4: I love it, But would would be be interested in them?

748
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 4: I don't care, just speaking for myself, seems like it

749
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 4: costs a lot of money and Mac is as good

750
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 4: as him.

751
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: Not enough bad things can happen to that team, So

752
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 3: I would just love it, but it ain't gonna happen.

753
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: That would be Oh.

754
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 5: I know that's I mean, that's when it's easy. I shouldn't,

755
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 5: but I still I still just.

756
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 7: Would love to see what it looks like, because is

757
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 7: he even going to be the highest played quarterback for

758
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 7: that like brief window of time after he signs it, like,

759
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 7: are they don't even make that.

760
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 4: I'm not sure he will be. I'm not sure he

761
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 4: will be. Herbert's another one that I would actually worry about.

762
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 4: Herbert with the Chargers because that's another group that doesn't

763
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 4: seem to understand how to do these things, doesn't always

764
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 4: do the right thing right.

765
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Speaker 3: And I don't that that ownership family. They don't have

766
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: a lot of money, you know, liquidity is that the

767
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 3: spano I mean, that's why they had.

768
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 7: To move and share at a duplex over there exactly.

769
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's that's other stuff around the NFL. But

770
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: like every year, there's a ton of great storylines throughout

771
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 3: the league. I got to go to Sean Watson, how's

772
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 3: he gonna be?

773
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Speaker 5: Why? I said? The Jets? The Jets Aaron Rodgers.

774
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Speaker 7: Interesting conversation because I I'm kind of torn, like because

775
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 7: you know, we obviously social media depart, what do we

776
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 7: put out video? You know, we're we're obviously a little

777
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 7: bit restricted in terms of what we can shoot and share,

778
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 7: you know. And I just wondered, like, you know, the

779
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 7: Jets are sharing left and right highlights from practice and

780
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 7: great catches, and you know, it seems like their fan

781
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 7: base really enjoys it.

782
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 5: So I'm just torn.

783
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 7: Though, on the decision of like do you trumpet that

784
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 7: stuff in practice because you certainly get a return, like

785
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 7: you get you get some excitement, but you're also like

786
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 7: maybe building up false hope and you know, you're you're, you're,

787
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 7: you're building up a hype train that that might not

788
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 7: do the station.

789
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 4: I mean, and we've done highlights and stuff that have

790
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 4: taken off.

791
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you highlights if you're the Jets,

792
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: you know, milk it while you can. If it turns

793
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: down to be into a bad season, well it's just

794
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: like every other season.

795
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 4: Well so, so I wanted to ask about that and

796
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 4: get your opinion. We haven't really, I don't think, discussed

797
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 4: the hard knock stuff on our show. And obviously the

798
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 4: Jets didn't want to do what They went kicking, screaming,

799
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 4: and they've been upset about it, and some of their

800
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 4: guys have talked about not wanting to be around here,

801
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 4: like Fred, and I'm lockstep with Fred on this one.

802
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 4: We don't like the Jets. There's nothing about the Jets

803
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 4: I've ever liked. We're all assuming that they're going to

804
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 4: not be We recognize that on paper talent, but we

805
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 4: all sort of say if they're the Jets, right, they're

806
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 4: the Jets, and everybody's convinced that they'll screw it up

807
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 4: because they're the Jets. This is the reason why that

808
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 4: they're they're holding onto this one. Like Gresh and Fourier

809
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 4: last week, are completely and thoroughly convinced that the amount

810
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 4: that they're talking about not wanting to do hard knocks

811
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 4: is a sign that they won't work. Like, why would you,

812
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 4: like if you were like, if you were a coach,

813
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 4: if you were solid, Like, why would you want to

814
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 4: do hard knocks?

815
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, no team should want to do that.

816
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 5: And I like, I don't care.

817
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 4: Like, to me, it has just as like their point was,

818
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 4: they're not focused on the things that are important. They're

819
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 4: focused on complaining about hard knocks. I think it's just

820
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 4: as easy to spin that as a positive and say

821
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 4: they're all in agreement that they don't want to do this,

822
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 4: and it's us against them.

823
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: Because we want to focus, right. I like that, and

824
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 3: I listen, I think, I like.

825
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,959
Speaker 4: Why is that a reason that they're gonna go seven

826
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 4: and ten?

827
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 3: I hope that they go seven and ten. I hope

828
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 3: they'd go worse, But I think they're gonna be good.

829
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 4: I do too, but like, that's not the Like, I

830
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 4: don't understand why that's a reason why it won't work.

831
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers not meshing in New York is a reason

832
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 4: why it might not work. No, he's old and maybe

833
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 4: he's maybe last year was just the beginning of the end, right.

834
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 7: I could spin it the other way too, of like

835
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 7: they really want to be on Hard Knocks so they

836
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 7: can get on TV and they're you know, their families

837
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 7: can get on TV and they love having the cameras around.

838
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 5: Like I could spin it the other way. And by

839
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 5: the way, dying to be on there.

840
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 4: I think there there's probably some of the younger guys,

841
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 4: guys like Sauce, you know, some of those young guys,

842
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 4: they want that exposure and they I'm sure, but like,

843
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 4: I don't understand why the fact that Aaron Rodgers has

844
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 4: spoken out about not wanting to do this, but they

845
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 4: made us do it. Why that's a bad thing for

846
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 4: the Jets. Yeah, you know the Jets chances this year.

847
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 4: Why is that an indication that see c the Jet Like,

848
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 4: can you imagine if they were doing it, the Patriots

849
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 4: were doing it.

850
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 7: I mean, they probably would not say anything, but I'm

851
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 7: sure that they none of them would want to do it.

852
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 4: Oh, you know, kind of like when you change special

853
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 4: teams rules and Matthew Slader had one of the most

854
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 4: intelligent articulate, well thought out rebuttals that I've ever listened to. Yeah, Like,

855
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 4: if they had it on their mind and it meant

856
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 4: something to them, they would say it. And I just

857
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 4: don't understand why that so. Well, Patriot's gonna have terrible

858
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 4: special teams now because they're bitching about the changing of

859
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 4: the special teams rules. They're not focused on it. That's silly,

860
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 4: that's silliness.

861
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

862
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 4: Like I said, I'm not completely convinced that Aaron Rodgers

863
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 4: can still be Aaron Rodgers based on what I saw

864
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 4: last year. I didn't think he played very well last year.

865
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 4: I don't like the Brady thing. To me, it made

866
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 4: sense that Brady went to Tampa with a chip on

867
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 4: his shoulder to prove that Bill was wrong and that

868
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 4: he wasn't done.

869
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 5: I don't know if Rogers cares that much.

870
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't have that fire, I don't think.

871
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 4: I don't know if no, he may, but I don't

872
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 4: know if he cares that.

873
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: I just think he's so damn good. Yeah, they have

874
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 3: to be better than they were last year. They have

875
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 3: to be.

876
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, based on the highlights, they look good.

877
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 7: I mean, I cut a little of your show yesterday, Paul,

878
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 7: they were laying out the Jets schedule.

879
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 5: I mean it's it's a.

880
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 7: Tough as the tough schedule, Yeah, right up from the top.

881
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 7: So I think that's, you know what the point Felgrims,

882
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 7: we're making where things don't I mean, it's gonna be

883
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 7: tough for them right out of the gate. And if

884
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 7: it doesn't go well, how do they keep it together

885
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 7: or they able to be one of those teams that

886
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 7: overcomes a slow start and then is able to peak

887
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 7: at the end.

888
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, But they got talent. I mean

889
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 5: I have to.

890
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 7: I can't go back on what I saw last year.

891
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 7: I mean, they've got the pieces that you want. I mean,

892
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 7: in the Patriots need you know, at the right spots.

893
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 7: You never know how it's going to come together.

894
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: But this Bill's running back that got hurt going to

895
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: be a factor this year.

896
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 7: He's a return I mean he's I mean, he's still

897
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 7: a good depth back. But I mean that's how they play,

898
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 7: you know, they like James Cook, you know, like those

899
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 7: little receiving backs.

900
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 5: That's that's their style.

901
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 7: I thought they might go in a different direction this

902
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 7: year and try to, you know, maybe reinvest in actually

903
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 7: try to, you know, show some dedication to running the ball.

904
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 3: Ji seemed to be the new helicopter accist.

905
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 4: Well, did you see how that happened?

906
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 5: Somebody hit him? Someone hit him.

907
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 4: He was like standing still on a jet ski and

908
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 4: got run into.

909
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 3: With another jet ski.

910
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 5: Another boat accident or was it a.

911
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 4: Boat boating accident? Did you notify the coast guard?

912
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 12: Uh?

913
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: Yes, French gives us the look.

914
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 4: I know it's just these two, these two igits.

915
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 5: But sorry, sorry, heines it.

916
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 3: No.

917
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 4: I do think it's h but I disagree a little

918
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 4: about their approach. I don't know if it will work,

919
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 4: but I think getting Damien Harris to them was in

920
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 4: their minds a better between the tackles short yardage option

921
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 4: than Aim and Singletary or whatever his name is, Devin

922
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 4: Damon's a former Northeastern basketball player.

923
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry, Damon always on his mind.

924
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 4: And then Devin's Singletary was And they keep cook. I

925
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 4: think cook. They think is they're the better of the backs,

926
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 4: and I think they have those two guys. Now, we'll

927
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 4: see if they do it. We'll see if Ken Dorsey

928
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 4: commits to running the football on third and one instead

929
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 4: of just saying Josh go get the first down, which

930
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 4: is generally what their offense has been in recent years.

931
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 7: That's that's what's most interesting idea.

932
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 4: No, I get it, I get it, but I think

933
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,479
Speaker 4: if you want to be an offense at the next level,

934
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 4: you need to try to do some different things. And

935
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 4: and I think that at times that they just they

936
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 4: make him do too much, right, and it's.

937
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 7: But it's hard to pull back from that. And I

938
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 7: I mean, we talked about this during the offseason. That's

939
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 7: what I think is one of the interesting things to

940
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 7: me is anytime you hear quarterback talking like I have

941
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 7: to change the way I play, Like, I don't want

942
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 7: to hear that from you know, Josh Allen, I know

943
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 7: we play is super risky, and it seems like he's

944
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 7: one you know, like what happened with Jonathan Jones there

945
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 7: what like twenty nineteen, is that when you know he

946
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 7: got he's got.

947
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 3: That last year before the season and then the first play

948
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: he was like, I know, you know, jumping over.

949
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 7: How much is it in his head though? How much

950
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 7: is he questioning?

951
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 4: Down of the season he stiffed on the linebacker and

952
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 4: jumped over it, right.

953
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 7: I mean, but you just wonder if He's just gonna

954
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 7: keep doing what he does until he gets an injury

955
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 7: that he had, you know, and then it's like, all right, now,

956
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 7: I don't really quite feel comfortable running like that anymore.

957
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 7: But I just don't want him. I mean, I do

958
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 7: want him, but you know, you shouldn't be in your

959
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 7: own head if your quarterback question how you play. And

960
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 7: some of the plays he makes are like questionable decisions.

961
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 7: But that's what makes him great.

962
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 5: You know.

963
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 7: Imagine Patrick Mahomes thinking like, I don't know if I

964
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 7: should throw this, you know, vertical.

965
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 5: But that's him, you know. But I think he's you

966
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 5: be you.

967
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 4: I don't know what he's thinking because obviously no one's

968
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 4: in his head, but I think he's talking about all

969
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: the mistakes.

970
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 5: He made in the red zone.

971
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 4: He's thinking he had a lot of turnovers in the

972
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 4: red I can't believe I got the girl from Bumblebee.

973
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 3: All right? A five to five Pats five hundred is

974
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 3: the ace ticket. Hutline web radio at Patriots dot com

975
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: is the email address. Let's hit the phones. Patty's an

976
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: agua on what's up? Patty going on?

977
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 13: Gentlemen, Hey, hey, Patty, So I had the thought last

978
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 13: night and it was going into the or pretty much

979
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 13: after the two thousand season, they hired Romeo Cornell and

980
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 13: he did, uh, you know, because the defense, they they

981
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 13: had all the pieces on defense then, but you know,

982
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 13: he turned he helped turn that defense around and made

983
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 13: them a championship caliber defense. And I was thinking, you know,

984
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 13: could Bill O'Brien realistically do the same thing, And then

985
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 13: like the logical side of my brain, you know, sort

986
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 13: of kicked in and said, well that that defense was

987
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 13: actually good and who the hell knows what this offense

988
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 13: is gonna look like. But I, as I stated before,

989
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 13: like I'll come on here, I'm not gonna freak out

990
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 13: after like game one or the first practice or whatever.

991
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 13: I do believe we're gonna see different Mac Jones this year.

992
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 13: And I do think he's gonna have a really good season.

993
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 13: And I mean, if not, Thanksgimming, I'll come on, I'll

994
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 13: take my lump. But like I said, I'm not going

995
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 13: to freak out after a few practices or after the

996
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 13: first game or two, right.

997
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 5: You got to give it time.

998
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I agree, Thanks Patty.

999
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: You know I was thinking about it. You know, people say, well,

1000
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 3: you can't evaluate Mac unless you give him a number

1001
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: one wide receiver. You could also make the other argument,

1002
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 3: you can get a better evaluation with Mac if he

1003
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 3: has to do it a little more, if he's not

1004
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 3: propped up by this all world receiver. You know, maybe

1005
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 3: this way we get a better idea of who this

1006
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 3: guy is with a competent offensive coordinator.

1007
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 4: Now that doesn't mean I don't want a number one receiver,

1008
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 4: and I'm not disappointed that they didn't do more to

1009
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 4: help him. But I agree with you, but it's trust

1010
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 4: to me about the secondary part. I'm disappointed they didn't

1011
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: sign Hopkins. I'm not necessarily disappointed because no, I don't

1012
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 4: know what Mac Jones is, right, I don't.

1013
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 7: Know anything about him. Yeah, I agree with the guys

1014
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 7: he's got. I mean, no matter what he's got, I

1015
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 7: think we got it.

1016
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think with these pieces he should be

1017
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 3: able to perform. I don't think there's any excuse for

1018
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: Mac Jones this year.

1019
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 4: No, I don't.

1020
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 5: I don't either.

1021
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 7: I mean, I know this is one of the big

1022
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 7: like sticking points of you know, how is this year

1023
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 7: going to end up with Mac? And are you going

1024
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 7: to have a true sense? And you know a lot

1025
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 7: of people were upset after Hopkins, But I just think

1026
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 7: with the coordinator is in place, I agree with what

1027
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 7: Patty said, like, I have high.

1028
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 5: Expectations for Mac this year.

1029
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 7: I just I think he's done everything right except for,

1030
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 7: you know, handling a little bit of the adversity during

1031
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 7: the season.

1032
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 5: So we'll see tomorrow.

1033
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: Luca is in New Jersey. What's up, Luca?

1034
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 14: My name is online?

1035
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 15: I have like two questions.

1036
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 3: Okay, r how do you feel about the cat? Well,

1037
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 3: we just kind of talked about we're all disappointed. We

1038
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 3: wanted him on the team and we were disappointed that

1039
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 3: they didn't sign him.

1040
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1041
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 16: Do you think Christian as good as rookie Tylaw?

1042
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: Oh that's a really good question. That's an excellent question

1043
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: because I can't remember how good rookie was?

1044
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 5: Good.

1045
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 3: No, he was good. I think I think he could be. Yeah,

1046
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: but I think, Luca, we have to be patient when

1047
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: he's a rookie. What do you think though, do you

1048
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 3: think Christian Gonzales can be? Do you remember ty Laws?

1049
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 3: What does your dad think?

1050
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 17: And I think they're two different players, I'll be honest,

1051
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 17: Yeah I do too.

1052
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tyler was much more physical than Gonzales.

1053
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: More compact. In fact, Parcells said that Law had to

1054
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 3: worry about his weight. That was the guy that he

1055
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: was always worried about him gaining too much weight. I

1056
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: don't think you think you have to worry about that

1057
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: with Christian Gonzales, if any thing, he needs to put

1058
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 3: on some weight. Yea yeah. And it's a different game too,

1059
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, yeah right.

1060
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 13: Me and my dad are going to a channing camp.

1061
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: All right, you're going tomorrow.

1062
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, thanks, Well, come find me. I'll have

1063
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 5: T shirts for you.

1064
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 4: Look up for Alex and the Patriots. Unfiltered T shirts

1065
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 4: will be available.

1066
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 3: Look up at the stadium at the Rams and we'll

1067
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 3: wave to you.

1068
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, thanks Luca, look for Alex.

1069
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 3: Look at New Jersey. Let's go to Hakeem.

1070
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 4: That was a good question.

1071
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hakeem in Baltimore. What's up, Hakeem?

1072
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: Hear me? Yes, hey, I'm a first time.

1073
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 3: All right, thank you.

1074
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: And I was listening to your show via the podcast

1075
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: last week about the kind of like roster musical chairs

1076
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: that have got me there thinking hypothetically, if Bill Belichick

1077
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: goes away and again we have to get a new

1078
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: head coach, what kind of philosophy do you think would

1079
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: fit well for the Patriots with a new head coach.

1080
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 7: Well, I think it's the age old thing of going

1081
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 7: from the disciplinarian to the lucy goosey offensive.

1082
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: Guy players coach.

1083
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, part, I mean I would I would think that

1084
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 7: maybe an offensive coach would probably you know, but I

1085
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 7: think Girod Mayo is probably the favorite. But I think

1086
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 7: the way that things have been going around here, that

1087
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 7: the feeling would be we got to get offense.

1088
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 4: Going, I would quickly be looking for an offensive guy.

1089
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think they would too. I mean, that's

1090
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 3: the way it is in the NFL these days. Gerd

1091
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 3: Mayo's not he's he's Yeah.

1092
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: A follow up question to so that is, can we

1093
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 2: live with kind of middling for maybe like the next

1094
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: eight to ten years?

1095
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 3: Because eight to ten years?

1096
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Speaker 5: No, no, no.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but do you think about history in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: think about the Ravens and the early two thousands.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the.

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Speaker 2: Chiefs just came around, and so you know, how did

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Speaker 2: Seattle get to where they got? For the small moment

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Speaker 5: Yep, it.

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Speaker 3: Right there, thanks a keem.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he nailed it. That's how you get out of.

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Speaker 3: The smell of Paul's food is got to me. So

1108
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Speaker 3: we're gonna take a break. But before we do, I

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Speaker 5: In fact, it.

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Speaker 15: You'll want to check out the replay on this one.

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Speaker 15: Pat the Patriot is stealing the show tonight with his

1181
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Speaker 15: Bank of America mobile banking app.

1182
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Speaker 9: That's right, folks.

1183
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Speaker 6: So here we see Pat cheering and then whammo is

1184
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Speaker 6: that Bank of America life plan.

1185
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Speaker 15: Looks like he's saving up for some big future moves,

1186
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Speaker 15: planning the next vacahum big guy.

1187
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Speaker 15: what a performance.

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1225
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1226
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1227
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Speaker 19: right from the network more people rely on only on

1228
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1229
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Speaker 19: twenty five times analysis by ooklobsp test intelligence date a

1231
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Speaker 19: Q two twenty twenty.

1232
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Speaker 20: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh No,

1233
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Speaker 20: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

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Speaker 20: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where

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Speaker 20: now meets next for residential delivery.

1236
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Speaker 11: Only in sports. If you think joy only happens after

1237
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Speaker 11: you win, think again. Look at the world's most successful

1238
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1239
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Speaker 11: don't spend all that days grinding away. They take time

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1250
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Speaker 14: This is Matt Life for Putnam Investments, a world of investing.

1255
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Speaker 21: There's no season better than football season, and there's no

1256
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Speaker 21: better place to get in on all of the action

1257
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Speaker 21: than with DraftKings, the official daily fantasy sports partner of

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1261
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Speaker 21: if you haven't tried it yet. Fantasy football is easy

1262
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Speaker 21: to play. Just pick nine players, stay under the salary cap,

1263
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Speaker 21: and pile up points for yards, touchdowns, receptions, and so

1264
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1265
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1266
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1270
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1272
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Speaker 15: Patriots fans, you'll want to check out the replay on

1273
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Speaker 15: this one. Pat the Patriot is stealing the show tonight

1274
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Speaker 15: with his Bank of America Mobile banking app.

1275
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Speaker 6: That's right, folks, So here we see Pat cheering and

1276
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Speaker 6: then whammo, is that Bank of America life planned.

1277
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Speaker 15: Looks like he's saving up for some big future moves,

1278
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Speaker 15: planning the next Vaca hump, big guy.

1279
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Speaker 6: And wait, now he's paying back his buddy for concessions

1280
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Speaker 6: using zel no penalty there, incredible.

1281
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Speaker 3: No way.

1282
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Speaker 15: As if that double move wasn't impressive enough, now he's

1283
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Speaker 15: beefing up his account defense with security meter. Holy conoli,

1284
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 15: what a performance.

1285
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Speaker 6: Bank of America's digital tools are so impressive. Patriot fans

1286
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Speaker 6: just can't stop banking. Learn more at Bankofamerica dot com

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1289
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1290
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Speaker 5: And now great moments in.

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Speaker 3: History. Go to the A ticket outline Rogers in Foxborough. Hey, Roger, Hey, guys.

1293
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Speaker 10: First of all, I think you need to let Megan

1294
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Speaker 10: talk more.

1295
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Speaker 14: You guys bickering in the background.

1296
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 8: She's the best you have on that show.

1297
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Speaker 5: Okay, well listen another sign. My god, it's gonna be bigger.

1298
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Speaker 3: There's no muzzle on Megan. She can talk anytime she wants.

1299
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Speaker 23: So I heard that dontro And is retiring.

1300
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Speaker 10: Does that mean we have a chance for Danny Ytlink to.

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Speaker 14: Be a Legiti receiver on his seat.

1302
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know about the retiring thing. But Dontrell

1303
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 4: Edman looks lost in the first three days in practice.

1304
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 5: Second hand, right.

1305
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: He didn't he was late to camp and now he's

1306
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: not out here?

1307
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 4: Does it feels like a guy Dontrell Iman wasn't late.

1308
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 5: He was not late to camp.

1309
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 20: No, there were reports that he was not going to

1310
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 20: show up on time, and then he did.

1311
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 3: But he was.

1312
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 4: He was, he was, but he was here.

1313
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,959
Speaker 14: Men, Yeah, got your mouth, let the lady's feet.

1314
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 4: Wow, you can continue to make stuff up. But he's

1315
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 4: been the first guy on the field the first three days.

1316
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 4: But I know, and then you can call him late

1317
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 4: if you want, but that's okay. You can come without

1318
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 4: information and just be as smart. All right, Yeah right,

1319
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, You're right, Roger, Roger bringing it.

1320
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.

1321
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 3: That was a great moment. You know who Roger was?

1322
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 5: How did you guys not know it was an?

1323
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 4: I know so well, we were up upstairs. There's a

1324
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 4: lot of but full responsibility.

1325
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 5: I'll take it. He got me.

1326
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 4: And we were laughing about it later because I realized

1327
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 4: it like late in the call, but you can hear

1328
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 4: like my voice at the beginning. I totally did not

1329
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 4: know it was him.

1330
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 5: He totally fooled me.

1331
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 4: And I was laughing later because when I when I

1332
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 4: heard it played back, he was not disguising his voice,

1333
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 4: not even a little, and he was he was all

1334
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 4: over me and Fred.

1335
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 3: And I think he drives to Toyota and hate Patriots fans.

1336
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 3: If you want to see Toyota's best offers, including those

1337
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 3: not seen on TV, go to buy at toyota dot com.

1338
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 3: It's Toyota's official website for from the official vehicle of

1339
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: the New England Patriots, Toyota, Let's go places like so

1340
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 3: three down one.

1341
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 4: I think it's let's go places.

1342
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 3: Let's go places. Let's go, let's go let's go places.

1343
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 5: Place go places.

1344
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 3: We call people places, Let's go places.

1345
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 5: Let's go places.

1346
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 3: Everyone, let's go places.

1347
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 5: Let's go, let's go places. We got to stress to go.

1348
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 5: Let's go places.

1349
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 4: Where do you want to go?

1350
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 5: I want to go places.

1351
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 4: I don't want to go places brand new?

1352
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 3: Where do you want to go? I want to go places?

1353
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 5: Right, Let's go places then?

1354
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 4: Right, So next time when you read that, say it

1355
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 4: like that, I want.

1356
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 3: To go places.

1357
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 5: Yes.

1358
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 3: Okay, So so I should say Toyota, I want to

1359
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 3: go places.

1360
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 12: Yes?

1361
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 3: All right?

1362
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 5: Like the off season broke.

1363
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 3: Us and Toyota is longer the sponsor of Patriots.

1364
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:58,439
Speaker 5: You're welcome, Toyota.

1365
00:59:58,720 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 3: You're all right.

1366
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 5: You won the mask for the magic happens.

1367
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 3: Let's get back to the discussion. Eighty five to five

1368
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 3: PATS five hundred is the ACE ticket hotline web radio

1369
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 3: at patries dot com. Is the email address?

1370
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 5: Yes? Question in the back one more.

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01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 7: It sounds of reports that Lawrence Guy is uh is

1372
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 7: here in the building. So not sure if that's a

1373
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 7: hold in yet, but there was some speculation this morning.

1374
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 5: Is Lawrence Guy gonna show up. I know.

1375
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 7: I know our friend mister Lazar who is walking right

1376
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 7: now here with his second the honest man.

1377
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 5: He's representing Marlon Martha's Vineyard. Is that a black dog shirt?

1378
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 5: Is that just a Martha's Vineyard shirt?

1379
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 17: I know this is a vineyard vine shirt. This is

1380
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 17: what I was trying to tell you yesterday, but I

1381
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 17: was wearing the wrong one. So this one is the

1382
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 17: island logo, so that these That means that this shirt

1383
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 17: is only sold on Martha's Vineyard, whereas the Whale's nard.

1384
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 5: If you want one, yeah, hard. So I was on

1385
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 5: X and I asked anything.

1386
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 3: I saw your proposal. Yes, the dogs say yes.

1387
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 17: The dog said yes. Apparently that's a big joke.

1388
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 3: Well, you have to a fridge from the dog. It

1389
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 3: looks like you're talking right to the door.

1390
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 17: And the dog.

1391
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 5: You watch your mouth when you talk about the matter.

1392
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 3: She doesn't matter, But it looks like you're talking to

1393
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 3: the dogs dogs.

1394
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 17: That's true.

1395
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 4: It was kind of we don't we placed.

1396
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:23,919
Speaker 17: We didn't give him a pronoun. We let him choose.

1397
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 3: Did you have to ask the dog's permission before you

1398
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 3: ask your.

1399
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 17: Well, the dog is our dog already. We got it together.

1400
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 3: So our dog. Yeah, well, congratulations, thank you, thank you.

1401
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 3: That's awesome. Do you have a date yet or are

1402
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 3: you just no, no.

1403
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 5: No, it's probably somewhere I'm in January. It won't be

1404
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 5: ideal time for a wed.

1405
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 17: It definitely won't be in football season, but.

1406
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 7: Also not mini camp like Evan will probably like it'll

1407
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 7: be around O t A like you'll make.

1408
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 4: Sure the six week period between mini camp and the

1409
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 4: start of training camp.

1410
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 7: Under wedding honeymoon back fresh I saw the tweet, I

1411
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 7: was like, is this about time to tell Levin that

1412
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 7: he's got to go straight from Green Bay to Tennessee,

1413
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 7: like we're married and.

1414
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 5: By the way, I'm going to be gone for two weeks.

1415
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 17: Yeah, well, I built up some equity with the proposal,

1416
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 17: you think, so maybe I won't be as much in

1417
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 17: the doghouse.

1418
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 5: There you go. Now you got to pick cakes and

1419
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 5: flowers and you get your ring.

1420
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,919
Speaker 3: I know, guy, it's good to know a guy.

1421
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I knew my mom, but because I.

1422
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 3: Think that's one of the easiest things to get ripped off,

1423
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 3: buying diamonds that I mean, the stuff that goes on out.

1424
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 7: There, that's terrible girls, you know, and it's a big

1425
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 7: thing for the girls. She's got to go around showing everybody.

1426
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 4: And if I've ever seen anybody give me the ring finger, Like.

1427
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I can't even do that.

1428
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 4: I can't even do that.

1429
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 17: That. That's honestly not to get into the whole thing

1430
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,439
Speaker 17: about about this, but that's honestly been the worst part

1431
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 17: is like now, like the aftermath, Like now all the

1432
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 17: questions and the family and the phone calls and this

1433
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 17: and that, and now we got to plan a wedding.

1434
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 17: Like I I'm team all Lopeman, Like I kind of

1435
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 17: wish we did.

1436
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 3: Tell them it's a legal matter and I can't comment.

1437
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, right, get that register at Pottery Barn, you know,

1438
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 7: get get your stuff.

1439
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 5: You gotta get that free stuff.

1440
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 17: The gifts is the only positive. Oh yeah, it's the

1441
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 17: only positive.

1442
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 7: Boxes just start showing up, you know, stuff that you

1443
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 7: never even thought you need, you know.

1444
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 5: Kyle Brant, by the way, this is kind of room.

1445
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 5: Kyle Brant when.

1446
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 7: We've got married, gave us the biggest lobster pot you've ever.

1447
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 5: Seen in your whole life. And I'm like, what am

1448
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 5: I gonna do with this? We live in California.

1449
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 7: I think I returned it, but he got married, probably

1450
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 7: lobster guy.

1451
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 3: I guess any uh, any opening thoughts ever, like the

1452
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 3: first day of well not the first day of practice,

1453
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 3: but you know, kind of the opening day here.

1454
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1455
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 17: So I just came from player press conferences David Andrews,

1456
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 17: Matthew Slater, and Juwan Bentley, which I think is telling

1457
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 17: that does I would say, we knew that Andrews and

1458
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 17: Slater would talk on a day like this, but Bentley

1459
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 17: being the third guy in that group, and that was

1460
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 17: that was a lot of the message. Look, we haven't

1461
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 17: seen any real football yet. You're talking to the quote

1462
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 17: unquote captains on the first day of anything, you know,

1463
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 17: the first day of school here. And it was a

1464
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 17: lot about leadership messaging, you know, sort of how we

1465
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 17: put last year behind us like that, that kind of stuff, right,

1466
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 17: And I thought that a couple of guys had some

1467
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 17: interesting answers. Matthew Slater in particular just flat out admitted

1468
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 17: that he still thinks that this era and I don't

1469
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 17: need to put it all on Mac, but the Mac

1470
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,919
Speaker 17: Jones era is still forging its identity, that they still

1471
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 17: don't really know what their identity is. And he addressed

1472
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 17: the elephant in the room and said that we went

1473
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 17: through a seismic change as an organization, referencing tom Brady leaving,

1474
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 17: and we still haven't really found it yet. What what we're

1475
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 17: hanging our head on.

1476
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 3: I would agree with him, don't you think especially?

1477
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 7: I mean and even in like I know most people

1478
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 7: were thinking in a bad way, but it's also a

1479
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 7: good way. Like you're not an absolute bottom feeder yet

1480
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 7: you're just kind of floating in the middle. And sometimes

1481
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 7: you win, you're in limbo. You beat the bad teams,

1482
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 7: you can't really beat the good teams. Was was anything

1483
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 7: said by Slater just about like generally turning the page

1484
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 7: from that, And you know.

1485
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 17: I thought it was. I think it's good, you know,

1486
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 17: not to like go all leadership school on you, but

1487
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 17: I think it's good that he is addressing the elephant

1488
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 17: in the room. That they did go through a monumental

1489
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:29,439
Speaker 17: change in going from tom Brady to not having tom

1490
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 17: Brady is a pretty massive thing to go through as

1491
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 17: an organization, and rather than trying to act like it

1492
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 17: doesn't exist or hide from it or run from it,

1493
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 17: I think they addressing it head on is is the

1494
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 17: right thing to do. But he mentioned a handful of

1495
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 17: players that he felt were a part of the next

1496
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 17: nucleus to the next leadership corps, Jonathan Jones, Dietrich Wise,

1497
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 17: Juwan Bentley, and then obviously Andrews also, even though he's

1498
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 17: a little bit older, being as part of that that group.

1499
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 17: And I think the one thing that I don't think

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01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 17: he purposely left anybody else. I'm not saying that, but

1501
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 17: you just hope the quarterback is a part of that

1502
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 17: here sooner rather than later.

1503
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 3: Speak of staying on that leadership theme, if you had

1504
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 3: to pick one surprise captain this year, who would it be?

1505
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 5: Who?

1506
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 3: I mean, somebody who you know obviously, who isn't a

1507
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 3: captain yet a new captain.

1508
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,959
Speaker 5: That's a good question, Fred. This is why I print

1509
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 5: out the rust I don't like.

1510
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 4: I don't know what would qualify as a surprise.

1511
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 17: I think John Jones, I don't know if that's a surprise,

1512
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 17: but I don't believe.

1513
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 5: I don't think he's been.

1514
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 7: A new cap like maybe what about like an Adrian Phillips.

1515
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 4: Maybe I'd be surprised.

1516
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 5: Because of his Hunter Henry Hunter Henry.

1517
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 4: I'd be surprised if he was to be surprised. Those

1518
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 4: are both qualify as a surprise.

1519
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 7: Veterans who just seem to have kind of leadership qualities

1520
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 7: generally not really speaking to anything they're they're doing on

1521
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 7: and on the field. But maybe those guys, Yeah, I

1522
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 7: mean it's tough, it's it's a lot of young guys.

1523
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 4: And like Dietrich Wise last year was a surprise. He

1524
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 4: was a captain last year, right, Yeah, yeah, that was

1525
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 4: a surprise to me. I wasn't expecting him to as

1526
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 4: a captain.

1527
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 5: You not to, I mean I kind of on to it.

1528
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 7: I just think, do you think David Andrews is any

1529
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 7: chance he loses his job to Jake Andrews this year? Like,

1530
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 7: do you think there's any chance that that's a competition.

1531
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 3: It could be a Wally pipp situation. No, I'm serious,

1532
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 3: where he misses a game, this guy comes in and

1533
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 3: never comes out again.

1534
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 5: I just wonder.

1535
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't, I don't. I don't think

1536
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 4: there's any chance. I think it ended when Evan just

1537
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 4: got back, Like, I'm dead serious, him talking to me

1538
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 4: tells me that he's the center.

1539
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 3: Well he is right now.

1540
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 4: So I don't think there's any thought that they think

1541
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 4: that there's a chances're gonna lose his job.

1542
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 3: He could get hurt, the other kid comes in, plays

1543
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 3: really well and just ever comes out okay.

1544
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 4: But like, who's that not true for?

1545
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 3: Oh?

1546
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 4: I think led so that happened to him, Like that's

1547
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 4: true for everybody. If you get hurt and the guy

1548
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 4: goes in and plays better than you, there's a good

1549
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,959
Speaker 4: chance you're not get your job back. Yeah, I think, Mike,

1550
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 4: correct me if I'm wrong. I think you're sort of

1551
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 4: speculating he could be closer to the end. In the beginning,

1552
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 4: they drafted ostensibly his replacement. Do you think that that

1553
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 4: chance for a replacement happens now? And I say no,

1554
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 4: if he gets hurt, that's different. Yeah, if he gets

1555
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 4: hurt and loses his job, that's a different thing than

1556
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 4: you are asked.

1557
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 5: I mean, you feel like Jake Andrews is a center, right.

1558
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 17: Like, yeah, I do so.

1559
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 7: And he was the first one taken of those offensive

1560
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 7: linemen on day two.

1561
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 4: I think they're looking ahead. I think you're right.

1562
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.

1563
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 7: It's just something and I don't really know, but I

1564
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 7: also know that you know what the team kind of

1565
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 7: look like when Andrews wasn't in there, and they put

1566
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 7: Carrison and it was fine, but I felt like you

1567
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 7: missed David Andrews And I don't know, it just it's.

1568
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 5: An interesting thing to me.

1569
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 7: You're totally right about the captain stuff, but the way

1570
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 7: they took him, and you know where his ages.

1571
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 5: I know he's had some health issues.

1572
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 4: Next player Denver say yeah.

1573
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 7: But they they play in Denver this year, right, So

1574
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 7: is that an issue for David Andrews still with the.

1575
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 5: Altitude and blood clots and stuff. So I don't know.

1576
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 5: I don't I'm not trying to like speculate that I

1577
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 5: know anything.

1578
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 4: But last year is he in the last year?

1579
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 5: I don't think so. I think he's signed for a

1580
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 5: while right now.

1581
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 17: I asked him, you know, at the end of his

1582
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 17: press conference going into your nine, what what what still

1583
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 17: motivates you? You know, I think it's an interesting question

1584
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 17: on the heels of Devin mccorty saying that this team

1585
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 17: isn't winning a championship anytime soon, and that was part

1586
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 17: of what factored into his decision to retire, was that

1587
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 17: he wasn't coming back to chase another ring with Brady.

1588
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 17: He was coming back to a team that's still in

1589
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 17: a rebuild and so it's interesting. Same thing for David Andrews.

1590
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 17: I mean, he's not quite as as up there in

1591
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 17: age as Devin is, but he he gave a pretty long,

1592
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 17: winted answer about just being in the NFL player like

1593
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 17: just the life of an like how great it is

1594
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 17: to be not only playing the game that you love

1595
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 17: for a living as your profession, but also how he

1596
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 17: you know, joked around about how they get treated, you know,

1597
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 17: free food and like all the like you know, cool

1598
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 17: stuff that they get to do. You and I think

1599
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:05,919
Speaker 17: that he just really enjoys playing football as a profession.

1600
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 7: You just kind of lose sight of, like it's actually

1601
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,560
Speaker 7: pretty cool to be a professional athlete like that.

1602
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 3: All Right, Paul and I got into a discussion. You know,

1603
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 3: he thinks that it's better that uh, you know, you

1604
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 3: can't practice the actual game of football for the play

1605
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 3: in practice.

1606
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 4: Can you can you put the last part of that

1607
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 4: on here please? For the players.

1608
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 5: I don't know how he said the actual game of

1609
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 5: football too. That felt that.

1610
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 4: Everything else is atally he quoted me accurately, just left

1611
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 4: out the for the players. Yeah, well, the.

1612
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 17: Belichick mentioned this morning. That's why we were talking to

1613
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 17: The five day acclamation period is an interesting philosophy, and

1614
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 17: I think it started last offseason. I think that that's

1615
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 17: when it was put into the collective bargaining agreement. So

1616
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 17: I didn't realize today counted. Paul told me earlier that

1617
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 17: that today count.

1618
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 4: That's how it's been explained to me.

1619
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:53,640
Speaker 17: But I thought it was only on field set. But

1620
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 17: I guess if they consider the conditioning test, the first.

1621
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 4: Day is mandatory, like today's mandatory, Like if Lawrence guy

1622
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 4: wasn't here, then that would be officially findable.

1623
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 17: Yeah, but we don't. So they get shells on I

1624
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 17: think day fours, day four, and five, so like they

1625
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 17: we should see shells on Friday and Sunday, correct, I suppose.

1626
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 17: But yeah, no real real padded practices. But I think,

1627
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 17: you know, Belichick said it too. Pads have to come

1628
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 17: on first. That's a big part of it. But that

1629
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 17: that joint practice two week stretch, that's the that's camp, Like,

1630
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 17: that's the competition part of camp. And if you're going

1631
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 17: to make the roster and not make the roster, it's

1632
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 17: either going to be done in those ten days or

1633
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 17: it's going to be done in the games.

1634
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 3: I think in those practices. How many of those will

1635
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 3: be in pads?

1636
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 5: Do you think for the joint practice?

1637
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 3: Probably probably one? Four?

1638
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 17: No, I think two.

1639
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 3: Do you think all of them will be yeah, four practice?

1640
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 5: I think everyone we saw then yeah.

1641
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:51,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't see the walk through stuff generally, sometimes

1642
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 4: we have. Most of the time we don't. That stuff

1643
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 4: would be like the day before the game, right, not

1644
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 4: in pads.

1645
01:11:58,360 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 15: Uh.

1646
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 7: So we were talking too about Larrance guy though, like

1647
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 7: what does a holding look like?

1648
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 3: Like?

1649
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 5: That's what I was just thinking about, Like does he

1650
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 5: just sit in his locker? M Like nope, Nope, I'm

1651
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 5: not I.

1652
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 4: Would be twenty twenty, twenty twenty one Stefan Gilmour.

1653
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 3: That was a hold in Okay, he well.

1654
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 4: He reported to camp on time, had an injury, and

1655
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:20,759
Speaker 4: had an injury.

1656
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, I see, But like for him, what was he

1657
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 7: doing behind the scenes?

1658
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 5: Was he just like refusing to do anything and just

1659
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 5: sitting like.

1660
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 17: I remember seeing in the cafeteria conditioning field quite a bit. Yeah,

1661
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 17: so they were at least making him run. They were.

1662
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 4: He was that twenty it was twenty one, right, Yeah,

1663
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 4: he didn't have pads on. They traded and they traded

1664
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 4: him mid season to Carol, he got hurt.

1665
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 5: I'm losing my mind. Yeah.

1666
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 4: I think he opened the season on PUP.

1667
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, COVID that year, COVID. You know.

1668
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 4: That season's blur twenty one not twenty Yeah, I think

1669
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 4: it was twenty one.

1670
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the phones. Is Tamara coming today?

1671
01:12:59,439 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 8: No?

1672
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 17: The girl there?

1673
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 4: They got They went to Barbie. He got work to do,

1674
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 4: they said. I asked, they went to Barbie.

1675
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 5: That was the last night? All right, it wasn't.

1676
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 3: Let's get back to the age. Take an outline eight

1677
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 3: five five past five hundred on the Buy a Toyota

1678
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:17,759
Speaker 3: Patriots Unfiltered show. Sean is in Vancouver. What's what's up? Sean?

1679
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 23: Right off the top, Evan Mazle tough. If you haven't

1680
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 23: seen the movie Diner, you should. At least this way

1681
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 23: fiance would know from being married to a sports fan.

1682
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 4: I agree with Sean. That's would be great for Evan

1683
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 4: specific perfect. Give her a sports test before she flunked

1684
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 4: the Colts test, and the wedding was off. The wedding

1685
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 4: is off.

1686
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 17: Nowadays. You don't do that to women. But that's pretentious

1687
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 17: and sexist.

1688
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 5: But all fine, you don't have to do it.

1689
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 7: Fine, all right.

1690
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 23: I have a couple of things from last week. Some Thursday,

1691
01:13:55,000 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 23: Gerald and Grimsby, Ontario called in and talked about watching trying, Yeah,

1692
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,560
Speaker 23: watching the Patriots from Montreal. He grew up at the

1693
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 23: same place I did in the seventies and eighties, but

1694
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 23: he has a different memory than me because back then

1695
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 23: the AFC was broadcast on NBC WBTZ from Plattsburgh, New York,

1696
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 23: and they showed primarily Jets games, Baby Bill second, but

1697
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 23: then a few Pats grown in. It was really frustrating.

1698
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 23: I had to go to the top of Mount Royal

1699
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 23: to pick up a Vermont Radio broadcast top covered and cheese.

1700
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1701
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 23: So that was that. And then Dan from Virginia slash Michigan.

1702
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 23: He asked if a team ever incrementally made it back

1703
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 23: to contention status with the same coach, And the one

1704
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 23: I can think of is Bill Kauer with the Steelers

1705
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 23: in the nineties, because they were AFC champs when they

1706
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 23: lost the Cowboys in ninety five. They're still good in

1707
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 23: ninety six, ninety seven, but then they fell off in

1708
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 23: ninety There were three straight years that didn't make the playoffs.

1709
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 23: They were six and ten in ninety nine and then back,

1710
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 23: that will qualify thirteen to three.

1711
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that would definitely qualify. That's a good.

1712
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 7: One, yeah, Cordels all right, And they got back to

1713
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 7: this because even when they went, even when they were

1714
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 7: good and good enough to advance in the playoffs, and

1715
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 7: they ended up losing to Dallas that year, Like the

1716
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 7: quarterback was no good Neil O'Donnell was not good, but they.

1717
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 4: Were they were a good team, Mark Malone. That's that's

1718
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 4: the eighties. But maybe that's why. And then they moved

1719
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 4: on from O'Donnell and had a hard time figuring it out.

1720
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 5: And yeah, what were they played? Weren't they like fourteen?

1721
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 5: And I don't know, no thirteen.

1722
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,759
Speaker 3: No, Malone was like ninety five.

1723
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 4: Mark Malone played in the eighties. He might have played

1724
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,839
Speaker 4: like in the nineties, but nineties. His career was primarily

1725
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 4: because I remember my pick I like him, Mark Malone. Yeah,

1726
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 4: you know what what could have been maybe remembering my

1727
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 4: confusing him with like Bubby Brister or.

1728
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 5: Someone like, oh that's another good one.

1729
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 17: Yeah this this, let's look, let's look at this memory

1730
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 17: that walk down memory lane.

1731
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 5: They're all in the Hall of Fame, by the way.

1732
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 17: It just great players this is like Classic Sports Radio

1733
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 17: that that des grinded my gears. But Matthew Slater mentioned

1734
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 17: that one of Bill Belichick's big messages to the team

1735
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 17: every year is that he wants to be a tough

1736
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 17: football team, and he defines a tough football team as

1737
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 17: being able to run the ball, being able to stop

1738
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 17: the run, and being able to cover kicks.

1739
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 4: Now you see why I'm worried.

1740
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 5: And there you go.

1741
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 4: Do you now see why I'm worried?

1742
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 3: Why kid also a tough football player?

1743
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 17: Or team score points?

1744
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 13: No?

1745
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 3: But things?

1746
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 4: I don't know why.

1747
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 3: That's you know, get off jams at the line, you know, blockwell,

1748
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 3: protect your court. Like I think there's more to toughness

1749
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:43,759
Speaker 3: than those three elements.

1750
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 4: How about winning?

1751
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 17: Yeah, that that was Those were the And it rolled

1752
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 17: off Matthew Slater's tongue like it's such a belichick ism,

1753
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 17: right like that he says it all the time. And

1754
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 17: I know I'm like looking way too much into it,

1755
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 17: but I also just I couldn't help but think, well,

1756
01:16:59,000 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 17: that makes sense.

1757
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 5: That's what you don't like.

1758
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 17: It's everything that they invest in that doesn't win football

1759
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 17: games anymore, and why they're in the spot there.

1760
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 4: And this is why I'm concerned because I don't think

1761
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 4: this is like the state that the team has found

1762
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 4: itself in. I think this was by just this, this

1763
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 4: is what he wants, Like he's investing in special teams

1764
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 4: as special teams continue to get phased out of the

1765
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 4: league because they were important in nineteen eighty.

1766
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 17: He's paying Devon Godshaw and Lawrence Guy and you know

1767
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,799
Speaker 17: these run stuffing dns to play on first down.

1768
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 5: Right, and Barmore is a sub player.

1769
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1770
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 4: I mean there's been periodic times where the Chiefs absolutely

1771
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 4: couldn't stop a nosebleed on the run. But yet they're

1772
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl every year? Like does he think that, well,

1773
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 4: they're not tough because I wouldn't describe necessarily the Chiefs

1774
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 4: as a physical tough team, but I would describe them

1775
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 4: as a mentally tough team.

1776
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 3: Right.

1777
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:52,759
Speaker 4: They're at their best when games are on the line

1778
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 4: for the most part. By the way, Martin Malone nineteen

1779
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 4: eighty to eighty nine, Wow, never made it.

1780
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:00,719
Speaker 5: So he never made it to the nineties.

1781
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 3: Was he a coach?

1782
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 4: He was like a broadcaster for a while.

1783
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe that was he might have been broadcasting one

1784
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 3: of our games. That must have been in the press box. Yeah.

1785
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 4: I don't know if he actually broadcasting games, but he

1786
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:18,719
Speaker 4: was like the talking heads on ESPN at one point.

1787
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 3: Because I distinctly remember, I like him. Josh is in Dallas.

1788
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 4: That's a weird guy.

1789
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 5: Like, what's up, Josh alone?

1790
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 10: I want to get your thoughts on it feels like

1791
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 10: the financial landscape of the league is changing a little bit.

1792
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 10: And I could be wrong, but you guys have just

1793
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 10: seen the evolution of even now at this point. Obviously

1794
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 10: Saquon signed this morning, but you still got Zach Martin

1795
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 10: and Chris Jones like guards and tackles that are holding

1796
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 10: out to and it feels like a lot a lot

1797
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 10: less of team friendly deals are happening, or you know,

1798
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 10: the team discounts as as people say, it seems like

1799
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 10: everybody just kind of wants to get paid, which I

1800
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 10: don't blame him for that, but with Saquon talking about

1801
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 10: how he feels like the players have leverage and the

1802
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 10: owners feel like they have the leverage, it feels like

1803
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 10: something's going to have to give at some point.

1804
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 4: It could be he gave up, it could be I

1805
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 4: would just like, I don't put all of those things

1806
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 4: in the same bucket. Like in other words, like to me,

1807
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 4: Chris Jones is going to get paid at the top

1808
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 4: of the market. That's a much different deal than the

1809
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 4: other guy. You know, like Saquon Barkley's not going to

1810
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 4: get you know this mega you know, eighty million guaranteed

1811
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 4: running backs aren't going to get that. Chris Jones is.

1812
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 4: He's going to get paid kind of like Quinnin Williams

1813
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 4: and Aaron Donald and the high market, you know, the

1814
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 4: high priced defensive tackles, because he's worth that. And my

1815
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 4: guess is they're probably trying to figure out a way

1816
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 4: to get him in between those, you know, up maybe

1817
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 4: not the highest, but somewhere up there. Zach Martin, I

1818
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 4: think that's more of what what Josh is talking about,

1819
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 4: like a center. He's good, really good, but we saw

1820
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 4: what can happen when you go down that road here

1821
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 4: with Joe Toney and Jack Mason.

1822
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 3: I was watching ESPN. One one of the talking heads

1823
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 3: today or might have been a NFL network, said that

1824
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 3: there's like forty or fifty guys in the NFL that

1825
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 3: make on average fifteen million a year, and only two

1826
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 3: of them are running backs. Alvin Kamara and McCaffrey. That's it.

1827
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 4: Both catch the ball, yeah right, and yeah they're both

1828
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 4: more receivers than running backs.

1829
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean I believe it.

1830
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 7: I just like I have like I don't want to

1831
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 7: sound cold harder towards running backs, but I just don't

1832
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 7: have sympathy.

1833
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 5: That's the game. Like sorry, what like like kickers have

1834
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 5: been dealing with this forever, Like they play in the league.

1835
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 5: They don't get big count you know, like it is

1836
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 5: what it is.

1837
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 7: Like if you have a great couple of years, then

1838
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 7: hold out and try to get that money then, But

1839
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, you can't like change the game and make

1840
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 7: a special allotment so that running backs specifically are taken

1841
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:54,799
Speaker 7: care of properly.

1842
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 4: Fan, I think there's a lot of things about the

1843
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 4: CBA to sort of criticize in like the franchise tag

1844
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 4: I think is one of them. The fact that it

1845
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 4: hasn't been eliminated after all this time is amazing to me.

1846
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 5: But I kind of agree with you.

1847
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 4: You're a larger point, like what is the league supposed

1848
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 4: to do because the position requires so much wear and

1849
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 4: tear that it's a very risky things. It's riskier on

1850
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 4: a second or third contract for that position I think

1851
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 4: than any other.

1852
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 17: Okay, So I have a suggestion because I think about

1853
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,520
Speaker 17: this a lot for some reason. Okay, So how about

1854
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 17: if it was a skill position tag, so wide receivers,

1855
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 17: tight ends, and running backs all get averaged out into

1856
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:36,839
Speaker 17: the same.

1857
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 4: So I'm going to tell you what that's going to

1858
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 4: do to running backs.

1859
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 17: They'll be free agents.

1860
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley would be a free agent right now, right,

1861
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:45,799
Speaker 4: and so would Josh Jacobs.

1862
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 17: And I think that that might benefit them because then

1863
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 17: they had the open marketing here.

1864
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I think right now they'd be free agents.

1865
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 4: No one would have signed them.

1866
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 17: Oh you don't think anybody would have signed.

1867
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 4: On because no one wants to give them eleven million

1868
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 4: that Barkley just gave them that the Barkley just signed for.

1869
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 4: And now you're going to put that franchise number up

1870
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 4: closer to twenty million if it's wide receivers all together

1871
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 4: with running backs, so now it's twenty million. The Giants

1872
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 4: ain't given them the tag at twenty million, right.

1873
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 17: So the idea would be that it would get them

1874
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 17: to the open market sooner.

1875
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,640
Speaker 4: So I think you'd be there. I absolutely think the.

1876
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 17: Biggest problem is is that for running backs their prime

1877
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 17: is like college and then like the first or second

1878
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 17: year of their NFL careers and they don't hit unrestricted

1879
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 17: free agency until they're like twenty six years old. So like,

1880
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 17: if you want to try to fix the problem, well,

1881
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 17: first of all, I think nil does kind of fix

1882
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 17: the problem a little bit because like if Reggie Bush

1883
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 17: could get well he did, so maybe bad example or

1884
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 17: Reggie Bush, we're never able to capital but like Reggie

1885
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 17: Bush now would legally get to capitalize them being Reggie Bush,

1886
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 17: which would have made him a boatload of money at USC.

1887
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,560
Speaker 17: So maybe that does help. But the prime of a

1888
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 17: running backs career is really like nineteen to twenty two

1889
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 17: in terms of age.

1890
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 3: Well you know how they have the exception for first

1891
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 3: round picks. Yeah, well they used to have an exception

1892
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 3: for quarterbacks and it wasn't just like quarterbacks you could

1893
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 3: sign for five years. What if they do the opposite

1894
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 3: for running backs like they cannot when they were a

1895
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 3: rookie for only a two year deal.

1896
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 17: You know that's been floated. I think the issue is

1897
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 17: is like then the other positions are like in two

1898
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 17: years of what stops the safety or a tight end

1899
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:25,919
Speaker 17: or like you know, other positions.

1900
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 3: Every the data they last for five years in the league,

1901
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 3: and you can, but everybody.

1902
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 4: Wants to get to free agency. It's not fair to

1903
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 4: have some guys be able to do it quicker than others. Yeah,

1904
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 4: that's Evan's point about changing the entirety of the CBA.

1905
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 17: Right, Like the skill position tag is similar to like,

1906
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 17: so linebackers, all linebackers, whether you're an off ball linebacker

1907
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 17: or an outside linebacker, are just linebackers. Offensive linemen, whether

1908
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 17: you're a tackle or an interior guy. The franchise tag

1909
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 17: is just linement. So it's the same idea as how

1910
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:53,959
Speaker 17: they structure.

1911
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be a.

1912
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 4: Post that I just don't think it's going to fix

1913
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 4: Barkley and Jacobs's problem because I think they're not going

1914
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 4: to find a lot of takers.

1915
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 5: Do I mean, do you think that the ship has

1916
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 5: sailed to for running backs like forever in the NFL?

1917
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 4: Like, is the going to be an evolution that val

1918
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 4: My favorite big headed former co host Andy brought up

1919
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 4: a point when we were on his podcast last week.

1920
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 4: He thinks that you might start seeing you know, we

1921
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 4: had Why can I not think of it?

1922
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 5: Gibbs in.

1923
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 4: Robinson in the first round this year, he thinks you

1924
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 4: might see a little bit of a swing back to

1925
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 4: more running backs taken in the first round, not because

1926
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 4: of necessarily they're more valuable in the offenses, but by

1927
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 4: doing that, you get fret like, at least you get

1928
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 4: them now five years, you ride them, and you, like,

1929
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 4: to Evan's point, that's their prime. That's it. So you

1930
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 4: get the prime years, then you get that fifty year

1931
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 4: if he's any good. That's like a franchise. You just

1932
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 4: get that fifty then you let him go and then

1933
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 4: get somebody else. It could happen like that. I personally

1934
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 4: would not do that because you guys know, I'm a

1935
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 4: I'm a running back yist.

1936
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 3: This one.

1937
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 5: I mean running back.

1938
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 17: It's your fault that say, Kwon Barkley's not It's not

1939
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:08,719
Speaker 17: my fault.

1940
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 5: What about his family?

1941
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 4: People eventually come around to my line of thought, But

1942
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:12,679
Speaker 4: that's not my fault.

1943
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 13: I am not.

1944
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 4: I am not a thought. Uh you know, this is

1945
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 4: a media provider, So what what is the what was

1946
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:20,799
Speaker 4: your solution?

1947
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 7: I don't have one, and I don't really care, like

1948
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 7: I mean, well that's I mean, you know, it's just

1949
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 7: how the game goes.

1950
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 5: I mean, I still you know, I do wonder. You know,

1951
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 5: the game is cyclical and things do come around.

1952
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 7: I mean, it's hard to see right now that it

1953
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 7: isn't always going to be a passing first league that

1954
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 7: it is now. But you know, at the same time,

1955
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 7: I think the Patriots were one team it seemed like

1956
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 7: and it didn't work. But you know when they took

1957
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 7: Sony and you know, you talk about trying to build

1958
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 7: a big, physical team, like you know, I think that

1959
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 7: there is I mean that's always been I've said it before.

1960
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 7: Like you know, they see defenses getting smaller and they

1961
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 7: think that they can take advantage.

1962
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Speaker 4: Of John Hannah guys, Yeah, John Hannah talks about the well,

1963
01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 4: he used to be here a lot. He would talk

1964
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 4: to Fred and me and Andy when we were here,

1965
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 4: and he said, it's going to be cyclical. It's going

1966
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 4: to come back all these undersized safeties playing linebacker. And

1967
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 4: the solution for that is you're going to power up,

1968
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,480
Speaker 4: play multiple tight ends with a fullback.

1969
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 5: And run it down their throats.

1970
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 4: And I think when you see that you score twenty

1971
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 4: points a game doing that, teams have said, well, that's

1972
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 4: not you know, I just dominated I rushed for two

1973
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty yards and I didn't score any points.

1974
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but did you win because you kept the ball

1975
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 3: and kept the other team off the field.

1976
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Speaker 4: Sometimes, Thank you Bill if you're Tennessee and Derek Henry's heyday. Yeah,

1977
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 4: you won some regular season games, but I couldn't win

1978
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 4: anything in the playoff.

1979
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 3: I could see, I could see it being cyclical and

1980
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 3: you get back to running, but it's going to take

1981
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 3: minimum fifteen years.

1982
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Speaker 5: And it's a small window too.

1983
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 7: I think just you know, for the backs alone that

1984
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 7: you're you're talking about for them, but for the team

1985
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 7: as well. If that's the building, and I mean if

1986
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 7: if any team has tried it, it seems like it's

1987
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 7: been the Patriots, and obviously it has.

1988
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 17: So so the answer that I think to your question

1989
01:26:56,360 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 17: of is it going to come back around? Ask your kids, Yeah,

1990
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 17: they do they want to be played running back because?

1991
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 5: Or do they want to catch the ball with one hand? Right?

1992
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 17: Because? And gritty what what the problem is right now

1993
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 17: is that there's too many good running backs. So all

1994
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 17: these running backs like Saquon Barkley, there's a backup out

1995
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 17: there that is eighty five percent as good as Saquon Barkley.

1996
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 17: So why would we pay Saquon Barkley forty million dollars

1997
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 17: guaranteed when we can draft Isaiah Pacheco in the seventh

1998
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:24,639
Speaker 17: round and he's just as good.

1999
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 22: Right.

2000
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 17: So the problem there's too many good running backs. So

2001
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 17: if kids like your kids stop playing running back and

2002
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 17: they start playing receiver because they want to be Odell

2003
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 17: and Tyreek Hill and you know, make these ridiculous catches,

2004
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 17: then eventually there's not going to be a lot of

2005
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 17: good running backs. And maybe it will come back.

2006
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 7: I saw somebody on Twitter floating like, would you, as

2007
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 7: like a Division one prospect college football player, would you

2008
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 7: switch sides of the ball and move to you know,

2009
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 7: defensive end or a linebacker? Is you know, a chance

2010
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 7: to get more stability? I mean, I don't know, I

2011
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 7: don't know. I don't know what the answer is.

2012
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 17: But I don't necessarily think it's like I don't think

2013
01:27:57,960 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 17: the kids think of it like in terms of the

2014
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 17: business obviously, So I think it's more so like what

2015
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 17: what gets propped up like on highlights and like what

2016
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,719
Speaker 17: do they see and what who's cool? And like who's

2017
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 17: like it?

2018
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 4: Like what you see it in the high school game,

2019
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 4: like and I can just sort of relate to the

2020
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 4: high schools that I've been watching lately. The best player

2021
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 4: on our high school team for five years has not

2022
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 4: been a running back. It's either the quarterback or his

2023
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 4: top receiver.

2024
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 3: But is he a running quarterback?

2025
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 4: Not necessarily. They do run at times, but it's a

2026
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 4: spread offense and they throw it all over the place. Okay,

2027
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,839
Speaker 4: that's how Like seven on seven's we just hosted the tournament,

2028
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 4: you know before we got the death penalty, and we

2029
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 4: just hosted the tournament at Fenwick and like it's it's

2030
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 4: just amazing because I was like, literally fifty sixty teams.

2031
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm watching that Super Bowl with Central. They're always

2032
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 3: good and their quarterback and balls in his hand every

2033
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 3: play and.

2034
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, rarely make it.

2035
01:28:58,040 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 4: Make a play, Yeah, he would just make a play,

2036
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 4: would just run.

2037
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:02,719
Speaker 7: Well it was I'll give you my old high school.

2038
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 7: They run like and it's not all the time, but

2039
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 7: they run a lot of single wing. Like they just

2040
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 7: have this package they call it their war package, where

2041
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 7: it's everybody in tight and they run that package from

2042
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:12,719
Speaker 7: the time they're in middle school.

2043
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 3: So they are good.

2044
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 5: They are good, but that they.

2045
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 4: Must beat up on smaller schools. But they But but

2046
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 4: you're not dead serious, Like no one plays like that anymore.

2047
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 7: No, No, But but it's it's specific, you know, like

2048
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 7: it's just you know, at certain times they're going to it.

2049
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 4: Hey for years, that's whatever I did. But it's so

2050
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 4: on point, you know, So it's a fit, was so

2051
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 4: well drilled, well, you know, just it was a machine.

2052
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:35,800
Speaker 4: And then he completely changed. Coincidentally, when his son was

2053
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 4: getting ready to take over his quarterback they changed that.

2054
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 3: In the book. No, this is Evert, I know in

2055
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 3: your book from Everett from ever ever Evert to Everest's

2056
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 3: the Paul Perilla story.

2057
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 17: But I do remember, like I think this is more

2058
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 17: like when t bow first happened, but ten or so

2059
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 17: years ago, that high school coaches would talk about, well,

2060
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 17: we used to put the best athlete at running back

2061
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 17: and he would only touched the ball fifty percent of

2062
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 17: the time. And then we realized, oh, if he plays

2063
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 17: quarterback now he touches the ball all the time, and like, well,

2064
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 17: it can still run them. We'll train him to throw

2065
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 17: like that. You know, he can get him. He's a

2066
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 17: good athlete, he's a big, strong kid. We'll be able

2067
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 17: to get him to throw. And that's how you've seen

2068
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 17: all these running quarterbacks is because they were like, well,

2069
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 17: he's the best player on the team, so why are

2070
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 17: we playing them at receiver and running back?

2071
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 4: And the only teams that have a high level of

2072
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 4: success playing sort of traditional football, of the biggest like

2073
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 4: Saint John's Prep, can still they just have bigger kids,

2074
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 4: They have more kids, and they just overpower you, and

2075
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 4: they can line up and run the ball every play.

2076
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 4: They don't have to have a great quarterback, but most

2077
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 4: of the teams don't have those kinds of numbers, so

2078
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 4: you have to find a way in what they've done.

2079
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 4: And I actually was talking to one of the coaches

2080
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 4: the other day about this. I forget the specific school

2081
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 4: that he mentioned, but it's not important. They were he

2082
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 4: took over, and for like three years they were like

2083
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 4: seven and four. They were good, but he couldn't be

2084
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,560
Speaker 4: the better teams. And he was like Jesus, you know,

2085
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 4: like I feel like I'm bigger up front. I'm pushing

2086
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 4: them around, you know. And he talked to somebody and

2087
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 4: they were like, he went to like this camp in

2088
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 4: Connecticut and it was all of this stuff that Evans

2089
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 4: and I are talking about with spreads and quarterbacks that

2090
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 4: are athletes, making the plays, ball in the hands and

2091
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,839
Speaker 4: finding a way to do it was all speed oriented.

2092
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 4: And then they came back and was like I got

2093
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 4: to try to find the fastest kids that I have

2094
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:27,920
Speaker 4: and get them into these roles. And then he became

2095
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 4: a super Bowl team every year.

2096
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 5: Can Bill go to that meeting.

2097
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 4: And and Matthew Slater just told him. Why I'm worried

2098
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 4: because Matthew Slater is basically telling you he thinks this

2099
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 4: is I think he thinks that this is the easy

2100
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 4: way out, Like, yeah, you could score more points because

2101
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 4: you're tricking me and you're running past me. You got

2102
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 4: to run over me to be a man, Like that's

2103
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 4: what I You know, I'm obviously exaggerating. I hope that

2104
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 4: I'm obviously exaggerating to make the point I mean, but

2105
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:01,639
Speaker 4: I do think this if given his druthers, he'd rather

2106
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 4: play really good defense, run the ball, be tough. On

2107
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 4: third and three, we can line up with a full

2108
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,640
Speaker 4: back and just run for the first down and win

2109
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 4: twenty to seventeen. I think that's what he wants to do.

2110
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 3: Let's go to Aki in Canada. I hope I'm saying

2111
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 3: your name right, what's up A key? A key in Canada?

2112
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 3: You there a key a key? Nope?

2113
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 5: All right, well show right here.

2114
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 3: Let's go to some of the emails. John writes in

2115
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 3: I was reading an article about the rules for Hard Knocks.

2116
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 3: We were talking about that earlier teams can decline if

2117
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 3: they haven't made the playoffs in two years, have a

2118
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,720
Speaker 3: new coach, or have already been on the show over

2119
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 3: the past decade. It occurred to me that if the

2120
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:49,560
Speaker 3: Patriots don't make the playoffs this year, and if Belichick

2121
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 3: isn't fired, it seems very likely the NFL could choose

2122
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 3: the Patriots for twenty twenty four. Even if it were

2123
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:59,639
Speaker 3: over the Patriots objections, as was the case with the Jets,

2124
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:03,600
Speaker 3: the storylines would be too irresistible. My question is what

2125
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 3: storylines do you think Bill Belichick would retire before going

2126
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:07,719
Speaker 3: on Hard Knocks.

2127
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 17: I don't think the Patriots are is as attractive of

2128
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 17: a Hard Knocks candidate as the emailer does.

2129
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 5: I don't, but I think that they would be. Oh,

2130
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 5: I think they would be on. I think the NFL

2131
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 5: would want it.

2132
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the NFL would want well for the organization,

2133
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 4: I think it's one of the marquee franchises in the league, right.

2134
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:31,520
Speaker 5: Fred, Yeah, no, not really, just agree, agree.

2135
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 4: To take a great Paul?

2136
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 5: Uh, Yeah, I don't.

2137
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 4: I mean I don't think he would retire over it,

2138
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 4: but I wouldn't be surprised toss the way they avoid it.

2139
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 5: I mean, you gotta paint.

2140
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:41,720
Speaker 7: I mean they so they missed the playoffs, so they

2141
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 7: had a you know, a bad year if they missed

2142
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 7: the playoffs.

2143
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 17: Yeah, Like, it's unless they missed the play and I

2144
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 17: hope this doesn't happen, so don't take it this way.

2145
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:52,600
Speaker 17: But unless they stink and like Caleb Williams is the

2146
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 17: quarterback next year or something like that. I just so

2147
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:57,680
Speaker 17: a team that has missed the playoffs in back to

2148
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 17: back years, it's quarterback by Mac Jones. I'd like, what's

2149
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 17: the I see what's the draw you're saying.

2150
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I see what you're saying.

2151
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 4: I don't think there's a draw for really any of these.

2152
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:10,680
Speaker 4: I think Hard Knocks has long since pastes expiration date.

2153
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 4: Don't I really agree with that?

2154
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 3: And I watch it.

2155
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:13,680
Speaker 4: I'm not telling you.

2156
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:14,599
Speaker 5: I don't. I never, I don't.

2157
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 17: I don't watch it.

2158
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 4: I don't watch it. Regularly, but I've seen it.

2159
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 7: Well it's it's much about the wags, the wives and

2160
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 7: girlfriends and the families and stuff that, you know, the

2161
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 7: off the field stuff and you know all that, like.

2162
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 4: You believe he's going to be gone from because you

2163
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 4: can't give anything that any right they switched to that

2164
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 4: no offense to I'm not surprised that all that Evan

2165
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:33,759
Speaker 4: has no use because it has nothing to do with football.

2166
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 17: Yeah, horrible, Well it was the first thing.

2167
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 5: I don't want to see guys get cut.

2168
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 17: To be honest with you, nothing against anybody, but like

2169
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:40,600
Speaker 17: I don't you need to see your kids playing in

2170
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:41,879
Speaker 17: your pool at your house.

2171
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 3: Like say by to daddy.

2172
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 5: He's going to be gone for a month.

2173
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not going off to war. He's going to

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Speaker 4: play football and make millions and.

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Speaker 17: He's going to come home for ninety teams. He comes

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01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:52,760
Speaker 17: home any night.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like so, and you know the money comes home.

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01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:59,560
Speaker 3: So that's Kevin and Dublin. Uh, it's that time of

2179
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 3: year again, the first of many times we'll hear the

2180
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 3: phrase now football is really back, and then again at

2181
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame game, and then again at the

2182
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:11,240
Speaker 3: first preseason weekend, and then again after the final preseason game,

2183
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 3: then again once roster cuts are announced, and then the

2184
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 3: Chiefs home opener, before it's uttered for the final time

2185
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 3: at the first Sunday of the regular season. Then it

2186
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 3: switches to now real football starts at various points up

2187
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:25,679
Speaker 3: until the conference championship weekend.

2188
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 5: You're going to take this the NFL.

2189
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 3: The NFL world is filled with these annoying bug bears

2190
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 3: I've never heard of. I want I want to know

2191
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 3: what NFL isms do the PU crew hate the most. Paul,

2192
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:46,560
Speaker 3: you love it because you established the iron iron sharpens.

2193
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 4: Oh wait, are you talking about phrases or things that

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01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:52,559
Speaker 4: they invent as being important important? I think that whole

2195
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 4: email is just dead on. They do do what he

2196
01:35:55,280 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 4: just talked about. They definitely do that. They talk about everything.

2197
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 4: How many times on your Twitter thing do you do

2198
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 4: you get a count down on how many days before

2199
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:04,719
Speaker 4: football starts?

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01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 17: I mean, we do it, but it's cool because we

2201
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:08,680
Speaker 17: use the player's numbers, like you know, like today, like

2202
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 17: the other day, it was like fifty five days. So

2203
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:11,639
Speaker 17: it's Joshu jay highlights.

2204
01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 4: They make these and that's the teams. And I'm not

2205
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 4: saying it because of us, but teams creating content with

2206
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:21,760
Speaker 4: their players. That's totally different the NFL claiming that, like

2207
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 4: we're breathlessly waiting for the next draft and where's that's

2208
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 4: gonna take place. People don't care. They care about the

2209
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 4: draft and what guys they take, but like they do

2210
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 4: everything as if it's a monumental event. Just the fact

2211
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 4: that they capitalize the words irritates me. A training camp

2212
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:41,440
Speaker 4: gets capitalized, No it doesn't.

2213
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:42,840
Speaker 17: But I still want to know you capitalize it.

2214
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,640
Speaker 3: I still don't. I still want to know what is

2215
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 3: a bugbear?

2216
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 17: I don't know.

2217
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 5: Sorry for the ramp along those lines.

2218
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:54,559
Speaker 7: Paul Orlando will host the twenty twenty four Pro Bowl Game.

2219
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 7: I know you're waiting to you to hear.

2220
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 4: That I'm released. They did like they did have any

2221
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:02,720
Speaker 4: you see that they like the numbers off of the

2222
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 4: television ratings. Oh my god, everything is the highest rated

2223
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:11,679
Speaker 4: thing in the history of ratings, everything, like every single draft,

2224
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 4: preseason game, Hall of Fame. Like it's insufferable some of

2225
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:19,799
Speaker 4: the things that they try to make out to be important.

2226
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 4: But what about things like establish the run, the combine.

2227
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 4: I want the combine on TV.

2228
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 5: I love the combine.

2229
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, careful, then you should stay home and watch it

2230
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 4: because you can't see it where you are.

2231
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 3: But I think I think he's talking about like these

2232
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 3: sayings or.

2233
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, well this is the run established, the run defense

2234
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 4: beats offense.

2235
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 5: Defense wins, championship, defense wins cheap.

2236
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 17: I'm sorry, but I'm a sucker for the first I'm sorry.

2237
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:52,599
Speaker 17: I love it. Like tomorrow, it'll be like Christmas morning

2238
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 17: for me, like first day of training camp practice. That's great.

2239
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 17: Then Monday will be another Christmas morning because the first

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Speaker 17: day of pads.

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01:37:58,640 --> 01:37:59,719
Speaker 4: I'll look forward to Monday.

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01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 17: Yeah, like guilty, first preseason game, first regular season game,

2243
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:07,799
Speaker 17: like all that's that's.

2244
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:11,120
Speaker 5: Fun about the third preseason game. Evan, No, I look.

2245
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 4: Forward to the third preseason You've been on the road.

2246
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 17: For two weeks, one preseason game and then the two

2247
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 17: and three.

2248
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 4: I could do it that, but for completely selfish reasons that.

2249
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 3: Let's go to Paul again because no one because no one.

2250
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 4: Else knows he's on the field.

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01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:31,640
Speaker 3: Discamp front, William says, who are you most excited to

2252
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:34,360
Speaker 3: see tomorrow? It's my first time at training camp with

2253
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 3: my son, and he's really excited to watch Judah. I'm

2254
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 3: personally excited to see how Bill o'bryan's offense is gelling

2255
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 3: and how Mac and the guys are doing with offensive chemistry.

2256
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 3: Also looking forward to seeing the rookies on defense, especially Mapu. Lastly,

2257
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 3: you guys should sell those Patriots Unfiltered T shirts. They

2258
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 3: are awesome. How can we go about getting one?

2259
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 7: Well, if you're gonna be a camp, just just be

2260
01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 7: aware because people are gonna have them. I mean I said,

2261
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 7: I grab a couple when when we go up and

2262
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 7: do it to hype Man right when I look out

2263
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 7: for Yeah, did you get your gun?

2264
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 8: No?

2265
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,639
Speaker 5: That was that expense was not approved for what fourteen

2266
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 5: dollars four? One of those things.

2267
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 3: You just made that up.

2268
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 17: I don't know they were expense, but they are.

2269
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, it depends if you want the

2270
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 5: full clip, you want to like, you know, single load,

2271
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 5: like easy Jack, I mean the stage.

2272
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 7: But we can just throw them, oh yeah, or I

2273
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 7: just say I said, I'll have a bunch and then

2274
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 7: after we do it, I'll walk through the crowd out

2275
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:31,880
Speaker 7: in the back and.

2276
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 3: You embarrass anyone that recognizes Deuce gets a T shirt.

2277
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 5: I'll be the guy with the T shirts. That's how

2278
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 5: you'll know. But yeah, we'll get we'll get some out there,

2279
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 5: for sure. I'm excited to see Jujuice, Missuster. I just

2280
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 5: want to see, you.

2281
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 7: Know, as Paul said, and during during OTAs, things that

2282
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:49,599
Speaker 7: you can actually tell from when they're just out there

2283
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:51,760
Speaker 7: and you know, not in full uniform or hitting anything

2284
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 7: like that. Just has he full uniform out where's he

2285
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:56,519
Speaker 7: kind of playing when they're running through some you know

2286
01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 7: seven on seven, eleven on eleven stuff that that's I

2287
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 7: just want to see how he fits in.

2288
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:01,560
Speaker 17: Yeah, I'm with you.

2289
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:04,639
Speaker 3: I want to see Gonzo, see how he looks.

2290
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 12: Don't get too excited at that, Fred like just no,

2291
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 12: but all the stuff the email said, I'm looking forward

2292
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:11,440
Speaker 12: to all of that Bill O'Brien and Mack Jock relationship,

2293
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 12: you know, Gonzales Mapu, those guys that you you know,

2294
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 12: all of that.

2295
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 4: That's that's always what I'm interested in camp, anything new,

2296
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 4: And in this particular case, obviously the offense is Yeah,

2297
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:23,719
Speaker 4: the first.

2298
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 7: Few days, it's hard to get amped about defense too,

2299
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 7: because they're not you know, I mean, the cornerbacks will

2300
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 7: have some coverage drills probably, but you're not going to

2301
01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 7: see anything out of Chiome White the next three days

2302
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 7: probably other than.

2303
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:35,560
Speaker 5: He was out there. This is where he was.

2304
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:37,640
Speaker 7: But you know, once the once the one on one

2305
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 7: start happening and all that, that's when you can see

2306
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:40,680
Speaker 7: those guys a little bit better.

2307
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 3: Ah, let's see lots of lots of emails Tim and

2308
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:49,120
Speaker 3: West Virginia. All the talk about missing on Hopkins and

2309
01:40:49,240 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 3: no other number one ride receiver in the fold. Who

2310
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 3: else is out there? They might target free agents like

2311
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 3: Jarvis Landry or Julio Jones to add veteran depth or

2312
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:01,640
Speaker 3: any trade target gets or do they just roll with

2313
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 3: what they have?

2314
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jalen heard that's what they got.

2315
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:05,599
Speaker 4: Roll, that's what they got.

2316
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:08,360
Speaker 7: They're at ninety now, So I mean until an injury

2317
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 7: or somebody stinks or fails a test or something like that,

2318
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:13,559
Speaker 7: I am not really interested in any I mean, there's

2319
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:16,040
Speaker 7: nothing out there that would move my Salladay is still available,

2320
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,639
Speaker 7: has he hasn't really done anything in a couple of years.

2321
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 4: He was busted for the Giants.

2322
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2323
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:22,680
Speaker 5: I don't think.

2324
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 4: I definitely am not interested in Julio as great as

2325
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 4: he was. I just think he's done and Jarvis Landry

2326
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:30,080
Speaker 4: kind of similar. I think he was a good, tough

2327
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:35,080
Speaker 4: slot receiver. Who's so Evan's a shelf life on that position.

2328
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:37,840
Speaker 3: Before you got here, we were also discussing about, you know,

2329
01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 3: the offense, and you know, there's that line of thinking that, oh,

2330
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 3: you know, without a true wide receiver one, you can't

2331
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 3: really judge Mac. But we were also saying you could,

2332
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 3: you could do the other side of that and say

2333
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 3: you can get a better judgment of Mac without the

2334
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 3: wide receiver one. What what what's in him?

2335
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 10: What?

2336
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:55,800
Speaker 3: What does he have to step up? How does he

2337
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:58,640
Speaker 3: you know, what side of the fence you on?

2338
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 17: I don't agree with that because I'm on the side

2339
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 17: of the fence of like, why do we have to

2340
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 17: make it harder on the quarterback just for him to

2341
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 17: prove himself?

2342
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:07,560
Speaker 3: No, no, but I don't say we have to do that.

2343
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:10,760
Speaker 3: But in just terms of analysis, what will give you

2344
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 3: a better idea of who is this guy?

2345
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,599
Speaker 17: I think if you have the receiver? Really yeah, because

2346
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 17: when you really look at it, like who doesn't have

2347
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:23,160
Speaker 17: the receiver? Like who who do we put in the

2348
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 17: category of like elite quarterbacks that doesn't have an elite

2349
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 17: pass catcher that he's also throwing to, And I mean

2350
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:36,840
Speaker 17: mahomes Hays Kelsey, like Alan has Digs Hurts, has AJ Brown,

2351
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 17: Lamar has Mark Andrews, Like I can't really find a

2352
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:46,759
Speaker 17: guy that's like truly in that conversation that isn't throwing

2353
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 17: to a guy that's also making Pro Bowls and getting

2354
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:52,680
Speaker 17: all Pro votes, Like it's just yeah, but doesn't necessarily have.

2355
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:54,519
Speaker 7: To be Like and you know, I know that there's

2356
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 7: a line between who made who and the quarterback you know,

2357
01:42:57,560 --> 01:42:59,640
Speaker 7: can raise the level of a guy who maybe you know,

2358
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 7: in a vacuum you take say you know, I don't know,

2359
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 7: and a J. Brown as he as good like Ryan Tannehill,

2360
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:07,720
Speaker 7: Like didn't you know what I mean pop with him?

2361
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 5: Like I don't know.

2362
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:10,599
Speaker 7: I guess what I'm getting at is like you might

2363
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:12,680
Speaker 7: not necessarily know you have the number one? Like did

2364
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:15,759
Speaker 7: you know Travis Kelce was a number one threat weapon

2365
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 7: in the NFL before it all kind of came together?

2366
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:20,240
Speaker 5: Would anyone really pitch that he's the number one?

2367
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 4: Is hannahell half that year that he led the league

2368
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 4: and passer rating with AJ Browns?

2369
01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 10: I don't know.

2370
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 17: Probably, I don't know at second.

2371
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 4: That's why I'm on the other side from Evan. I'm

2372
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 4: with Fred. What what Fred didn't introduce at the beginning,

2373
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 4: and you immediately talked about we all wanted them to

2374
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 4: get happy. Yeah, we all wanted them to do as

2375
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:43,560
Speaker 4: much as they could to help the quarterback. Where I

2376
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 4: stopped short is well, now they they left, you know,

2377
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 4: they left Mac Oldry. Just now we won't be able

2378
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:52,519
Speaker 4: to find out about it. I know if he could play,

2379
01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:54,559
Speaker 4: there are NFL players on the field that he's going

2380
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 4: to be throwing the ball to. Maybe he's not as

2381
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:59,600
Speaker 4: good as he could be if you had that, but

2382
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:01,639
Speaker 4: you should be able to find out. That's the only

2383
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 4: thing that I sort of took exception to. I agree,

2384
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 4: and I think that you've seen that with with some guys.

2385
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 4: I think Tannehill showed you he can be better with

2386
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 4: great talent around him. When Derrick Henry was was going,

2387
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:14,760
Speaker 4: and I think that year A J.

2388
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Speaker 5: Brown was there, but ultimately it was what it was

2389
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Speaker 5: with him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, even with me, Well, you know what, it might

2391
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:20,559
Speaker 4: not have been the same year.

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Speaker 17: I forget I think it was. But I agree with

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01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:27,040
Speaker 17: you wholeheardly that I I no longer let me put

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01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 17: you this way. I'm no longer going to make any

2395
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:31,879
Speaker 17: excuses for Mac. Last year I made all the excuses

2396
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 17: under the sun. I blame because the coaching was so.

2397
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:38,200
Speaker 4: Bad, right, and what did Jim Harbaugh get suspended.

2398
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:43,840
Speaker 17: For recruiting violations? The coaching was so bad that.

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Speaker 4: I think their swimming team should not be allowed to

2400
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:53,120
Speaker 4: play in the playoffs. Oh, go ahead, sorry, but I'm

2401
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 4: not going to make excuses for him because of the talent. Like,

2402
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 4: I think their skill positions are okay. I think their

2403
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 4: offensive line is okay. And I think if he was

2404
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 4: a top five quarterback, and like if he was Patrick Mahomes,

2405
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:07,679
Speaker 4: then they would be a top five offense. I wouldn't

2406
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 4: have any concerns if they had great play from the quarterback.

2407
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that was our where we fell is.

2408
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:18,960
Speaker 3: This is not a season for excuses for Mac. He's

2409
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 3: got to do it. He's got enough where you know,

2410
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:26,040
Speaker 3: I agree that we should be able to know who

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01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 3: he is.

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Speaker 7: Fred real quick, I'm just going to jump in because

2413
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 7: I got an email and maybe for some of our

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01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:31,680
Speaker 7: listeners who are planning on going to training camp, it

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01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 7: sounds like it's going to start a little bit earlier tomorrow.

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01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:37,480
Speaker 7: It's going to actually start at nine to fifteen am tomorrow.

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01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 5: So I know people will generally be there, but things

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01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 5: just got moved up. It looks like about fifteen minutes.

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01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 3: So all right, Matt, did you hear that? So we'll

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01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:47,720
Speaker 3: start our show at nine, you know, and.

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01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:50,360
Speaker 5: Deuce hype train and tomorrow will be eight forty one

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01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:51,479
Speaker 5: for those who are interested.

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01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:53,439
Speaker 3: Okay, warming up the crowd.

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01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 7: You have your wardrobe, I think so well, thanks to you,

2425
01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 7: we got some fancy new polos.

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01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:02,680
Speaker 5: I came to you, you gave you gave me my

2427
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 5: look sharp. Are we going whites tomorrow or I'm.

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01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 4: Going I'm going white white? I will avoid that blue

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01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 4: one as long as I can.

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01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 3: Paul doesn't like the blue one because of the stripes

2431
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:12,800
Speaker 3: at the.

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01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 4: Bottom horizontal stripes nineteen ninety four, called they want their

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01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 4: shirt back.

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01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 3: Pat Nagua, says Evan. I'm an ordained minister in the

2435
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 3: Commonwealth of Massachusetts. I performed a wedding for one of

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01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 3: my old friends last month. It would be my honor

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01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:28,200
Speaker 3: to a lope.

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01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:31,479
Speaker 17: You and just to a lope there you go, Sorry, Patty.

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01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:32,599
Speaker 5: I liked having them.

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01:46:32,600 --> 01:46:35,680
Speaker 9: Also an ordained minister, Ivan, are you really that one?

2441
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 4: I might take you up on YadA YadA YadA.

2442
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:38,840
Speaker 5: You're married.

2443
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:41,560
Speaker 3: Literally, you're an ordained minister.

2444
01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 9: Doing one in September marry my cousin?

2445
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 3: Why? Why is justice to the piece?

2446
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 9: My friends asked me to do it back in twenty fifteen,

2447
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:49,840
Speaker 9: and it's still eligible for us.

2448
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:51,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so what did you have to do to

2449
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:52,799
Speaker 3: become an ordained minister?

2450
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 9: It's like twenty five dollars and then fill out the

2451
01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:55,639
Speaker 9: paperwork online.

2452
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 17: So I I married my sister and her husband, but

2453
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:02,599
Speaker 17: I only got ordained for the day. I didn't get

2454
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 17: the one where so I'm no longer almost married.

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01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:07,880
Speaker 9: Yourself had to go look to make sure it was

2456
01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 9: still valid, and it is so interesting.

2457
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 3: Huhrd I have a passport?

2458
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:14,360
Speaker 17: What does that get me to Germany?

2459
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:18,720
Speaker 3: Ryan writes in it seems like ten years ago you

2460
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:20,800
Speaker 3: could build a team in a variety of ways, but

2461
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:23,559
Speaker 3: now you need a top ten quarterback in wide receiver

2462
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:28,240
Speaker 3: to compete regularly. We've established the dismissed value of running backs,

2463
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:32,280
Speaker 3: an interior offensive lineman. You've said yourselves that defense isn't

2464
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 3: gonna win it for you, and special teams are seemingly

2465
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:37,519
Speaker 3: on the way out. Is the game changing for the worse?

2466
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 3: Is there anything that could be done? Or was this inevitable?

2467
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 3: With all the rule changes for safety for the worst.

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01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:44,080
Speaker 5: I don't think so.

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01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 7: I think it's a fun game to watch now, it's

2470
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:49,560
Speaker 7: I mean, it's you know, I'd much rather watch schematically.

2471
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 4: This is for you, Frederick on your argument. Yeah, and

2472
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 4: this is where I might be more on your side.

2473
01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot that's better. And I said

2474
01:47:57,080 --> 01:47:59,120
Speaker 4: that at the time when we talked about it. For

2475
01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 4: the things that that might just say, I think there's

2476
01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 4: there's more of an entertaining entertainment value to it. But

2477
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 4: I I think it should be like did you ever

2478
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:10,640
Speaker 4: watch a game when the team you're rooting for is

2479
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 4: leading by like two, and the other team's going to

2480
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:15,400
Speaker 4: have the ball with a minute thirty left and think

2481
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:18,639
Speaker 4: we got this one? Like you never think you're gonna

2482
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:19,479
Speaker 4: come up with that stop.

2483
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:21,439
Speaker 5: No, Like it should be.

2484
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:25,679
Speaker 4: It should be hardier to stop somebody or hard.

2485
01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:28,960
Speaker 3: Okay, but does that scenario now where you don't think

2486
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 3: you can get does that make it more exciting that

2487
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:33,599
Speaker 3: this team has a chance they've got the ball.

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01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:35,680
Speaker 4: You can make an argument it's more exciting, you know.

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01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:37,680
Speaker 7: I don't know, But is that how the game is

2490
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 7: evolved or is that just how good quarterbacks are now

2491
01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 7: and how difficult it is to play defense, like has

2492
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 7: the game you know what, like are the players driving

2493
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 7: that or was this like the league driving it with

2494
01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 7: the way that they've tweaked the game.

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01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:50,360
Speaker 5: I mean, I think they go hand in hand.

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01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 7: But you know it's Tom Brady's of the world, the

2497
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:56,839
Speaker 7: Patrick Mahomes of the world that until the clock.

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01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:59,439
Speaker 5: Reads zero, you don't know that you got the think.

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01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 3: I think it's both.

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Speaker 17: I think that you know on that you guys would

2501
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:05,479
Speaker 17: know the history of football a little bit better than me.

2502
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:07,559
Speaker 17: But I think the quarterback play right now is as

2503
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:10,760
Speaker 17: good as it's ever been. And I agree at some

2504
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 17: point it's hard to stop these guys.

2505
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 4: I think the guys, especially in that middle tier, the

2506
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 4: guys that you don't think are that great, Mac Jones,

2507
01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:21,920
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins is at a much higher level

2508
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:25,680
Speaker 4: than that guy used to be twenty years ago, and

2509
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:27,519
Speaker 4: that guy twenty years ago you thought was a stiff.

2510
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 3: And what might be contributing to it is I think

2511
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:34,800
Speaker 3: offensive coaches are better, Like you know, this emergence of

2512
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:40,640
Speaker 3: these new offenses. I think coaches are coaching more sophisticated

2513
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:42,759
Speaker 3: offenses these days. Better.

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01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:45,720
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, you know, I was watching coaching clinic the

2515
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:48,680
Speaker 17: other day and it was at the defensive coordinator at

2516
01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 17: a prominent high school, and he was just saying, there's

2517
01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 17: just there's only so many defenses, Like there's only so

2518
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 17: many ways to play defense and how to line up,

2519
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:02,800
Speaker 17: and there's only so many ways to blitz and cover

2520
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 17: and like all these types of things. But offensively, there's

2521
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:09,599
Speaker 17: so many different ways to move the ball in terms

2522
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:11,960
Speaker 17: of like what you can do to scheme it up.

2523
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:15,720
Speaker 17: And that's what makes it hard is that defense is predictable,

2524
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:18,600
Speaker 17: Like at the end of the day, it's they know

2525
01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:21,040
Speaker 17: where the holes are and they know what they're trying

2526
01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:23,640
Speaker 17: to take away. And good coordinators can sit up in

2527
01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:25,800
Speaker 17: the booth on the sideline and say, Okay, they're playing

2528
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 17: us this way and that's gonna leave this open. So

2529
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:30,479
Speaker 17: we're just gonna keep hitting it until they adjust, and

2530
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:32,640
Speaker 17: then they adjust, and then there's an adjustment, right, and

2531
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 17: it goes back and forth. But I think for defensive

2532
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:38,679
Speaker 17: coaches it's like, well, what's we can't have a twelve guy,

2533
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:40,719
Speaker 17: so like, what's what's the next time.

2534
01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:44,400
Speaker 3: Unless you have a couple supremely talented guys on defense,

2535
01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:47,200
Speaker 3: who you know just are just disrupted.

2536
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 5: Right.

2537
01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:50,960
Speaker 4: Well, it's like it's it's the same as offense. Like

2538
01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:54,320
Speaker 4: I think the email said quarterback and a top receiver.

2539
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:57,559
Speaker 4: I think you absolutely positively have to have an elite

2540
01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:00,920
Speaker 4: pass rusher and an elite cover guy one of each. Now,

2541
01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 4: if all you have is one of each, is still

2542
01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 4: probably going to be in trouble. But you have to

2543
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 4: disrupt the timing because everything is timing, So you need

2544
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:10,720
Speaker 4: to figure out a way to disrupt the timing and

2545
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:12,160
Speaker 4: you have to be able to cover a little bit.

2546
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:12,639
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2547
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:15,360
Speaker 7: Well that's and I've been think a lot about Detroit

2548
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:18,799
Speaker 7: for some reason, just because you brought him up. I mean, Akudah,

2549
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 7: they drafted him. Then they went, you know, got Aiden Hutchinson.

2550
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:23,840
Speaker 7: They've got Jamison Williams. They went and got Gibbs this year,

2551
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:26,680
Speaker 7: which seemed like to surprise people, but.

2552
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 4: They based a linebacker guy, what's the linebacker's name that

2553
01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:30,479
Speaker 4: they got in the first round?

2554
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:31,880
Speaker 17: Two came from Iowa?

2555
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:32,360
Speaker 5: Iowa.

2556
01:51:32,479 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 4: Oh come on, what do I send you guys to

2557
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 4: the combine for?

2558
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 5: What are you doing?

2559
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:38,120
Speaker 17: Jack Campbell?

2560
01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 5: Jack Campbell?

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01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:42,200
Speaker 7: Thank yeah, yeah a second. But it seems like, you know,

2562
01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 7: you look at what they're doing, and like, based on

2563
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:46,320
Speaker 7: the conversation we've been having over the last two hours,

2564
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 7: it's like, you know, I kind of get what they're doing.

2565
01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 7: I mean, they're hitting the positions you talked about, they're

2566
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 7: hitting Alabama weapons, you know, and their quarterback he is

2567
01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 7: what he is, but they're trying at least to do

2568
01:51:56,240 --> 01:51:56,919
Speaker 7: and he played.

2569
01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 4: Well last year. I think he had like twenty nine

2570
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:01,760
Speaker 4: and seven last year. Yeah, I mean it's I'll take

2571
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:05,080
Speaker 4: that's another example, like that guy is a complete and

2572
01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 4: total stiff, but twenty years ago, yeah, but now he's

2573
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:11,720
Speaker 4: like the fifteenth, eighteenth quarterback in the league, and he

2574
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 4: threw twenty nine touchdowns in seven picks.

2575
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 7: And they're making an effort to put elite weapons around him,

2576
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 7: even if it's you know, Jamior Gibbs, who's kind of

2577
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:20,360
Speaker 7: a you know, running back hybrid type.

2578
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:22,559
Speaker 5: But still like they're they're trying to do the San

2579
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:24,720
Speaker 5: Francisco thing, which you know, I just I think they're

2580
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 5: a team to watch.

2581
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 3: Bob and Wilmington, North Carolina. This is the first year

2582
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:31,040
Speaker 3: that I haven't yelled at the schedule makers for screwing

2583
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 3: the Patriots. No stupid back to back on the West

2584
01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 3: Coast and ninety percent of our first eleven games put

2585
01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 3: our opponents on short weeks or coming off a road game.

2586
01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 17: They want the banking back on the West Coast.

2587
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:45,760
Speaker 3: We even get the Chiefs after our mini bye after

2588
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 3: we go to Pittsburgh on Thursday. Because of these factors,

2589
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:51,960
Speaker 3: the Patriots will go eight and three to start the

2590
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 3: season finish eleven and six, including a win against Kansas City.

2591
01:52:57,520 --> 01:53:00,840
Speaker 3: Do you think travel in short weeks actually affect a team's.

2592
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 4: Performance travel travel, Yes, But just to be clear, the

2593
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:09,799
Speaker 4: Patriots have requested West Coast.

2594
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:12,320
Speaker 3: Back to back games so that they don't have to travel.

2595
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:15,600
Speaker 4: So they don't have to travel as much. It's just

2596
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:18,720
Speaker 4: a typical but her Patriots fan who always wants to

2597
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:19,840
Speaker 4: blame not.

2598
01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:23,240
Speaker 17: To like, not woe is me, because I'm not doing that.

2599
01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:26,439
Speaker 17: But last year is my first year traveling to pretty

2600
01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 17: much every single game and like doing the whole thing,

2601
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:32,840
Speaker 17: and it is a lot, and like I think it

2602
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 17: would be a lot honestly though, my point is regardless

2603
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:38,080
Speaker 17: of where we were going, like, I don't think it

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01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 17: was anymore to go to to a longer like you're

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01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 17: on this like charter flight.

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01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:47,240
Speaker 3: First of all, I disagree those night games on the road.

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01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 4: That's fair night road games they take.

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01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:56,080
Speaker 17: Definitely, that's a good point. Definitely a factor like Minnesota

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01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 17: on Thanksgiving night and then near it back at like

2610
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:00,840
Speaker 17: four o'clock in the morning. Yeah, that's bad, just out

2611
01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:03,439
Speaker 17: of curiously, like Fred, like, why why don't we stay

2612
01:54:04,200 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 17: another night like in those situations.

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01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:08,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good question. I think just the teams

2614
01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:10,599
Speaker 3: want to get back so they can start the week,

2615
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:13,640
Speaker 3: you know, the next week, because Monday, they come in

2616
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:16,759
Speaker 3: on Monday, it's a recovery day. They're told to lift

2617
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:19,519
Speaker 3: after a game. That's the best way to recover, not

2618
01:54:19,680 --> 01:54:21,640
Speaker 3: just go home and sit around. You got to keep

2619
01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 3: those muscles going. So they're all they all have to

2620
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 3: come in on Monday. Well, they have victory Monday later

2621
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:29,840
Speaker 3: in the season, but even then, guys on their own

2622
01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:33,440
Speaker 3: come in and lift just it's better for your body,

2623
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:35,960
Speaker 3: and then Tuesday you kind of take it off.

2624
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:38,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I do think about that a lot though,

2625
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 4: Whateveran just said, because it is bizarre. You know, like

2626
01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 4: when you're play in the Jets or the Bills, especially

2627
01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 4: those ni kids, that's that doesn't matter. But like if

2628
01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:50,120
Speaker 4: you're playing Arizona, you know, would you be better off?

2629
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 4: You know, and I know there's a lot of people

2630
01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:53,680
Speaker 4: that your studies on this stuff that you know, the

2631
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 4: sleep and where you sleep and how and all that stuff.

2632
01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 4: Would you be better off staying overnight sleeping and coming

2633
01:54:59,200 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 4: home in the morning. Would you more productive? I think

2634
01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 4: you could still come home and you know, go right

2635
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 4: into the facility.

2636
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I suppose, But I hate it. I hate it.

2637
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:09,640
Speaker 3: I just I used to be able to, like because

2638
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:11,760
Speaker 3: we did overnights all the time. Right when we did

2639
01:55:11,800 --> 01:55:14,200
Speaker 3: the paper. We we sometimes we were up later than.

2640
01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:17,480
Speaker 5: The players were all pro you know, I don't know

2641
01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 5: how you guys like.

2642
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:21,080
Speaker 3: A night game. We wouldn't be leaving here until six

2643
01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 3: seven in the morning.

2644
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,960
Speaker 4: Now many times I've driven home while it's light out

2645
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:26,360
Speaker 4: against traffic.

2646
01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 5: It's tough.

2647
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:29,480
Speaker 3: So we used to do it all the time, and

2648
01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:31,200
Speaker 3: I could do it. I can't do it anymore.

2649
01:55:31,880 --> 01:55:34,000
Speaker 4: You could, definitely, you could not do it with your

2650
01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:36,000
Speaker 4: current commute. Oh not Yeah, you used to do it

2651
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:37,320
Speaker 4: when you live five minutes away.

2652
01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:38,720
Speaker 3: Right, I just can't do it anymore.

2653
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:40,120
Speaker 5: I don't know how you got that. Going through some

2654
01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 5: of those papers recently, like there's so.

2655
01:55:43,480 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 7: Layered and so much going on and the layout and

2656
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:49,040
Speaker 7: I'm like, how did anyone even conceptualize this much less on?

2657
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:49,760
Speaker 5: Like no sleep?

2658
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:52,920
Speaker 17: Wow, that was a very nice compliments.

2659
01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:54,960
Speaker 7: Don't you think that was one of the nicest things,

2660
01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:57,920
Speaker 7: especially like after a game, like and you have to

2661
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:00,600
Speaker 7: write like because like I'm like, Paul wrote this, Brian

2662
01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:03,040
Speaker 7: wrote this, Paul wrote this too, like how are they

2663
01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 7: even dividing this up?

2664
01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:05,840
Speaker 5: Like how did you even know who was writing what?

2665
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 7: And then you had enough, well you get the whole newspaper.

2666
01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:13,320
Speaker 4: We had to figure it out the game story, the

2667
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:17,040
Speaker 4: notes and how they scored. One guy did and the

2668
01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 4: other guy would do like an analysis kind of a piece.

2669
01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 3: I would pick out all the photos, but you write

2670
01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:27,800
Speaker 3: the captions for.

2671
01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 4: Them, and we would switch like one week you did

2672
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:32,080
Speaker 4: one of those jobs, the next week you did the

2673
01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:32,640
Speaker 4: other job.

2674
01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:34,560
Speaker 3: Oh.

2675
01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 4: We also had the quote board. You had to do

2676
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 4: the analysis and the quote board a.

2677
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:40,960
Speaker 3: Lot everything else was done before the game, dude.

2678
01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:42,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, so it's kind of ready to go.

2679
01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:46,720
Speaker 4: Stories in the analysis in the first time and stuff

2680
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:48,480
Speaker 4: like that. That's all done by Friday.

2681
01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 3: If it was Yeah, if it was a forty page paper,

2682
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:53,760
Speaker 3: like we'd have like twenty four pages done more than

2683
01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:54,840
Speaker 3: in the game, maybe more.

2684
01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:57,480
Speaker 7: Than you gotta write sixteen pages in like four.

2685
01:56:57,360 --> 01:56:58,640
Speaker 5: Hours the game.

2686
01:56:58,760 --> 01:57:00,920
Speaker 4: The game was always seven a seven page This is

2687
01:57:00,920 --> 01:57:02,800
Speaker 4: how many times I did the layout. The game was

2688
01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:07,440
Speaker 4: always a seven page spread. Then you'd have like the

2689
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:10,840
Speaker 4: NFL stats in the back that's all automated, all automated.

2690
01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:13,560
Speaker 4: That was a page Fred's edit letter. We used to

2691
01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:17,400
Speaker 4: have to do them for page three. And so there

2692
01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:21,360
Speaker 4: was probably like probably like twelve probably like twelve pages

2693
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:23,480
Speaker 4: or so that we were we were left for the

2694
01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:25,200
Speaker 4: So we didn't do all the layout either.

2695
01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 5: We had Michelle and Moore to.

2696
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:30,120
Speaker 3: But we would have to write it to make it fit,

2697
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:31,920
Speaker 3: and then we'd have to wait for her to lay

2698
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:34,200
Speaker 3: it out. Then we'd have to proofread it. Yeah, so

2699
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:36,360
Speaker 3: our work wasn't done until it was.

2700
01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:38,400
Speaker 4: But we did get to the point where any road

2701
01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:40,840
Speaker 4: game we were done writing by the time we got home.

2702
01:57:41,200 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 4: This is before you just would send it. Now, toward

2703
01:57:44,040 --> 01:57:45,800
Speaker 4: the very end, we would send it from the plane,

2704
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:48,200
Speaker 4: but like the vast majority, we didn't have the ability

2705
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:50,240
Speaker 4: to do that. So you'd write everything and then you

2706
01:57:50,360 --> 01:57:53,040
Speaker 4: get home and like me, Andy and Brian would be

2707
01:57:53,160 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 4: like firing stuff into the folders and they'd be like.

2708
01:57:55,680 --> 01:58:00,680
Speaker 17: Ah, now I get like Neil Perry like making my seat,

2709
01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:01,680
Speaker 17: like are you done? Are you done?

2710
01:58:01,720 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 5: Are you done?

2711
01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 17: In the plane is literally the wheels are like right.

2712
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 4: So we didn't usually write a whole lot during the game.

2713
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:10,720
Speaker 4: We used to wait till we got on the buck

2714
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 4: on the planet start banging because it was easier. What

2715
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:14,800
Speaker 4: else we do it on the plane until you know

2716
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:16,960
Speaker 4: you got and you just start to think like, well

2717
01:58:17,080 --> 01:58:19,400
Speaker 4: if I get this written, now I can eat on

2718
01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 4: the plane, maybe watch something on you because the TVs

2719
01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:25,240
Speaker 4: weren't all like again, a lot of technology is.

2720
01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 3: Things change and then you sleep, don't even want to

2721
01:58:27,480 --> 01:58:28,280
Speaker 3: get into the photos.

2722
01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:29,920
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