1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 1: All right, second hour Clay and Buck kicks off. Now 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: we have our Clay and Buck stock ticker so to speak, 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: going and ducks a little bit of a downturn right 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: now in response to the all out trade war situation 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: with China that is being discussed. I mean, one hundred 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: and four percent tariff is aggressive. But you know, Trump's 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: an aggressive guy, and he's going to play this thing out. 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: He's the guy at the poker table, right There's really 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: nothing to say or influence that would be helpful here 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Trump's approach to all this because he's the guy sitting there, 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: He's got the cards. He's the one who has to bluff, negotiate, 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: do what he's got to do to win the hand. 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: And I think he's the right guy for that job. 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: And then some I also wanted to take a few 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: moments here before we dive into discussion about dire wolves 16 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: and start reminiscing about Jurassic Park. Let me hit you 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: he wants to go dire wolf right away? No, no, no, no, 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: we'll get to the dire Wolf. Your buddy Bridge Colby 19 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: has officially been confirmed. Oh it's fantastic. So remember that 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: turned into a little bit of a story about whether 21 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: it was going to happen or not. That is like 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: now set up, so no issues there. He has been 23 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: confirmed just in the last few minutes officially, so he 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: will now go and take I love this team, yeah, 25 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 1: I love this team of Secretary of Defense heg Seth, 26 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: Deputy Undersecretary for Public Affairs, Sean Parnell, formerly of the 27 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck podcast network, and Bridge Colby, who I 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: will also tell you I talked to about starting a 29 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: podcast at one point, but he was busy, like running 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: policy in DC. But Bridge is a brilliant guy and 31 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: he's going to be Under Secretary of Defense for policy 32 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: and that is fantastic and I'm glad that all got 33 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: scared away. So big congrats to Elbridge Bridge Colby, who 34 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: I've known again for twenty years. Man, it's pretty funny 35 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: to think about this Clay like I just had that 36 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: guy before who said he's been listening to for fifteen years. 37 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: And that's where I'll call those folks oss, because you 38 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: know I started a Saturday show. Did you start on 39 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: a weekend or a weekday? We were originally your radio 40 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: radio show. First ever radio show I did was on 41 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: Nashville One oh four point five zone. We had a 42 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: Tuesday night sports talk show from once a week and 43 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: nine pm once a week. Once we got paid fifty dollars, 44 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: Glenn Beck let me do a Blaze radio stream at 45 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: the Blaze Saturday twelve to three Eastern. And because it 46 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: was a stream, I think I've told you this, I 47 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: could see. I also was a website writer, so I 48 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: had the chart beat access so I could see. And 49 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: I mean my first show, I had like thirteen or 50 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: fifteen people or something listening on the stream, and uh, 51 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: and then it grew and now here we are just 52 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: you and me, a few have our million million closest friends, 53 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: a few million close friends, so we're very you know, 54 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: five hundred and fifty stations NBDU but yeah, it has 55 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: been forty dollars buck. We had one sponsor that paid 56 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars total. I split it with my friend 57 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: chadwithrow fifty bucks. Otters Chicken Tenders, Okay, Chicken Tender place 58 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: really very very good for those of you who spend 59 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: any time in Nashville around like two thousand and four, 60 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: two thousand and five ish, two thousand and eight, two 61 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: thousand and nine. They had one set up right in 62 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: the middle of all the bars. So if you were 63 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: out at the bars and you were like, you know, 64 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: it would be great right now after a bunch of beers, 65 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: chicken tenders. They had late night chicken tenders. They were 66 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: good all day long. But yeah, very interesting. I did 67 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: not make and this was totally I volunteered. I said, 68 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: let me do a weekend. There wasn't a weekend programming 69 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: at that point, so I said, let me start because 70 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: they were just running replays. I said, let me do 71 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: a live show on Saturday for the Blaze Radio Network 72 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: and that was. That was the beginning of radio there. 73 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: And that was. 74 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like fourteen years ago, actually I think 75 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: it was, but yeah, that was that was. I did 76 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: not make any money though for that so because because there, 77 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, was nobody listening, so there was no money 78 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: in it. Fifty Clay, fifty dollars a show would have 79 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: sounded like that. That's pretty nice, you know. Fifty we 80 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: did for free initially, and then we got to fifty 81 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: dollars a day. Oh nice, you upseled the upsell. Oh yeah, 82 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: totally yes. But anyway, I was just gonna say I'm 83 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: in Bridge Colby when I was a CIA analyst Bridge was. 84 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: I think he was at DNIS. He was the newly 85 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: created DNI and we used to, you know, we used 86 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: to cross paths in DC, have drinks talk about defeating uh, 87 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: jihadism and communism and all that good stuff. So he's 88 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: a great guy. I've known him for a very long time. 89 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: Super high wattage. It's my way of saying, very smart. 90 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 3: Uh. 91 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm very happy for him. So thank you 92 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: for breaking in with that breaking news because that is important. Uh. 93 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: We will get to Direwolf later. That is not, in 94 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: fact breaking news, but it is exciting news. And uh, well, 95 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: I guess it was breaking news yesterday, That's right. And 96 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: I learned something. And I think I'm pretty savvy about 97 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: the animal kingdom, like I think I know a lot. Uh, 98 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: but that was This is a new thing for me. 99 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: All right, Let's get back though policy policy see politics America. 100 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: What's happening here, Clay. I just wanted to go over 101 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of this decision that came down last 102 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: night that essentially vacates the DC District Court stopping or 103 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: saying that it has a right to stop the Trump 104 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: deportation flights under the Alien Alien Enemies Act, the AEA, 105 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: and the way this decision came down is, Okay, they 106 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: do have people do have the right to habeas and 107 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: the right to some process before they are expelled out 108 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: of the country. On this okay, By the way, I 109 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: do agree with that. I mean I do think that 110 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: there should be some process. So they've come down and 111 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: said there should be process, but that the habeas, meaning essentially, 112 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: why are you being detained and why are you about 113 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: to be sent out of the country, must be in 114 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: the district where the person is apprehended. So you can't 115 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: do what we saw here Clay right, which is judge 116 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: shopping to get an anti Trump boseburg lunatic judge who's 117 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: just gonna shut it down and keep shutting it down. 118 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: So this means that one Trump does have authority to 119 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: do this. Okay, it is constitutional to do this process 120 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: under the Alien Enemies Act, so that's a big win. Two, 121 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: there needs to be process. So for anybody that was 122 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: a little little uh, you know, frustrated that this was 123 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: maybe happening without the necessary due process, even for the illegals, 124 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: there will be process, but it has to be in 125 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: the actual jurisdiction of the federal judge, meaning if you're 126 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: picked up in Atlanta, you go before in Atlanta, you 127 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: know whatever, that circuit is Atlanta federal judge, if you're 128 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: picked up in New York, Chicago, et cetera. What do 129 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: you make of this? I mean, I think the biggest 130 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: takeaway for me Clay was just okay, so he has 131 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: the authority to do this, and the Supreme Court has 132 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: weighed in at least on that. I think Amy Cony 133 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: Barrett siding with the liberals I know sad on on 134 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: whether he could do this or not stood out to me. 135 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: We talked about the case that came down seven to 136 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: two that was about whether the president had the authority 137 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: to fire federal workers or not, striking down a San 138 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: Francisco District judge decision that he did not. But this 139 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: one was five to four. Look, I told you that 140 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: I was optimistic in the Supreme Court here, and basically 141 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: what we're dealing with is and this is actually fascinating 142 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: and sorry, sorry for me being a bit of a 143 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: legal nerd for a minute. Here. What happened when Trump 144 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: was charged with all of those crimes that Jack Smith 145 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: was prosecuting him for was the Supreme Court was trying 146 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: to figure out what are the bounds of the president's 147 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: authority public versus private action, And we've talked about this, 148 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: but I think it's important because it will apply to 149 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: all presidents for the rest of humanity, so long as 150 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: we have a democratic republic in the United States that 151 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: is subject to the rulings of the Supreme Court. You 152 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: and I have said, Hey, if the president picks up 153 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: a paperweight and hits somebody in the head and kills 154 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,119 Speaker 1: them in the Oval office, unless that is some form 155 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: of self defense, or there's an assassin in the Oval office, 156 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: or it's like the Air Force one movie with Harrison 157 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: Ford back in the day, that's probably not going to 158 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: be determined to be in some form or fashion and 159 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: official act. But a decision, for instance, to kill Solamani 160 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: to or to bring to bear the National Guard to 161 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: help shut down a riot, it's probably going to be 162 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: considered an official act. So where that line of power 163 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: is being drawn for the president between official acts in 164 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: the capacity of his office versus private acts is incredibly 165 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: fascinating and is going to be determined on a factual basis. 166 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: The courts will look at it and they will say, okay, 167 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: this seems more like the public job of the president. 168 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: This seems more like the private job. Simultaneously, now we 169 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: have the other question being what is the scope of 170 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: the executive authority the president of the United States has. 171 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: There's no dispute that Trump is trying to execute his 172 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: own public job when he's firing all these federal workers 173 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: or he's taking these venezuelans that are criminals and deporting them, 174 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: and the federal district court judges are saying no, no, no, no, 175 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: the president doesn't have the authority to do this without 176 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: judicial review. Meanwhile, the president is saying, no, no, I 177 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: have the authority to do it. So far. The Supreme Court, 178 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: in general, these are two different avenues of cases, is 179 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: expansively defining the power of the president, which will apply 180 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: whether it's a Democrat or a Republican to the president's 181 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: ability to do the job. And what all of these 182 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: Democrat judges are doing is they are just trying to 183 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: create procedural hurdles to stop the president from being able 184 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: to move as rapidly as he wants to, and thereby 185 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: they hope curtail his ability to undertake the actions that 186 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: he was elected to undertake because they want then the 187 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: House to come in and flip back to Democrats, and 188 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: they want to stop the president from being able to act. 189 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: But if you strip away Trump, this is a super 190 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: interesting examination of presidential powers and how they'll be applied, 191 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: and the presidents here will apply to presidents for the 192 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: rest of our lives. And basically what the courts are 193 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: saying right now the Supreme Court at least, is we 194 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: are going to give a wide berth to the president's 195 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: ability to do his job. Does that make sense? I 196 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: understand a lot of you out there might be saying, Okay, 197 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: why does this matter in the grand scheme of things. Really, 198 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: what the court is trying to analyze is how much 199 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: power does the president have and to what extent can 200 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: the judiciary manage to restrict that power. This is a 201 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: balance of powers dispute that is going to theoretically be 202 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: setting precedents that will last for hundreds of years. That 203 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: was a solid legal nerd session, like like you really, 204 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: you really. It's one of the few times buck a 205 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: lot of the legal nerd stuff like I had my 206 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: eyes roll back because it moves so slow, and I 207 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: didn't like practice being a litigator because it was so 208 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: slow moving and everything else. This stuff, actually, I do 209 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: think is pretty fascinating because what are the limits of 210 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: the president's powers? Matters a great deal not only for 211 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: this president but for the next twenty that we'll live 212 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: through it. I think for next time, you need to 213 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: get a tweed blazer with those leather patches on the elbows, 214 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, and you've got to dot when you go 215 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: full legal nerd, and maybe throw on some smart eye 216 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: glasses too. Do you know what I'm saying, Like, go 217 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: with the full outfit so everybody knows, Oh it's time. Now, 218 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: it's full legal nerd time. Yeah. Or I could just 219 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: have like a little gabble that I could sit with 220 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: and I could wave it around so people on video 221 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: could see it and they could know that basically it's 222 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: like judicial time. Judge Clay's. Yeah, that would actually be fun, 223 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: didn't you? I wasn't Judge Judy the highest paid person 224 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: on television for a while. She's making it lest she 225 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: still mail dollars. She made fifty million dollars a year. 226 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: Buck to work fifty days a year because they film 227 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: all those shows in just like fifty days, right, Like 228 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: they just roll through on a bunch. I think Judge 229 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: Judy had at that time the best job in America. 230 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: I would love to be Judge Clay. I think I 231 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: would be really good at it. I would when Judge 232 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: Judy rest in peace dies, if there is a competition 233 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: to see who can be the next Judge Judy. I 234 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: think I could be really, really good at that. I 235 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: would love that job. I used to watch the People's Court. 236 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: You remember Wapner back in the day. Oh yeah, of course, 237 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: be flipping back and forth between Harry Carey Steve Stone 238 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: back in the middle part of the day. I'd watch 239 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: the People's Court every day. Judge Wapner was great. I 240 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: think I would love to do Judge Clay one day. 241 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: I think it would rate well. I wouldn't need fifty 242 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: million dollars to do it. I'd do it for ten. 243 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: Don't want to negotiate against myself, but I would take 244 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: twenty percent to prove myself. I'd only take ten million dollars. 245 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: Only has to work fifty days a year. That sounds 246 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: amazing to me. I think it's the best job in 247 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: media other than Bill Maher, who has the one day 248 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: a week show and all the tons of writers I 249 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: think he's got a pretty good gig. Two. Yeah, No, 250 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: that's uh yeah, I remember that one. I used to 251 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: like it when Judge Judy would get all get all salty, 252 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, she'd get all sassy with them. I think 253 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: I'd be good at it. I think i'd be I 254 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: think I could do that job. I think so. All right, Look, 255 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: tariffs have caused you could say, a little bit of 256 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: disruption of the markets. Okay, we trust Trump, we know 257 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: what he's doing, but it's gonna be a bumpy ride 258 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: for a little bit. And there's still the problem of 259 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: the debt, inflation, supply chain issues. I'm just saying now 260 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: is a good time and a very sound time to 261 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: maybe take some steps to get some gold in your portfolio, 262 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: have some gold holdings, or have gold in a convert 263 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: rather an existing ira or four one k into a 264 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: gold Ira for no money out of pocket. This is 265 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: where Birch Gold comes in. They are the experts. Birch 266 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: Gold is fantastic at this. 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Look, 276 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: they can't print gold, okay, So there's a reason that 277 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: gold has held value for thousands and thousands of years. 278 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: A plus rating for Birch gold from a Better Business Bureau. 279 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: This is who you should go with. Text my name 280 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: Buck to ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight to claim 281 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: your free info kit right now. That's Buck, Text Buck 282 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: to ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight today. 283 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: Want to be begin to know when you're to go 284 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: the team for podcast Trump highlights from the week some 285 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: days at noon Eastern in the Clay and Bug podcast feed. 286 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get 287 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: your podcasts. 288 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 289 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. We got a little 290 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: bit of drama. This is There is now a rival 291 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: redeveloping between Elon Musk and Peter Navarro over the free 292 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: trade universe. And here is Emon Jabbers on CNBC could 293 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: be Javeir's I'm not sure how you pronounced this last name. 294 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: He is talking about this conversation after Elon Musk called 295 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: Navarro a moron. Listen to that recitation, cut twenty three. 296 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 4: I do now have a reaction all this from Caroline Levitt, 297 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 4: the White House Press Secretary. I just spoke to her 298 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 4: a couple of moments ago. Her reaction to the statement 299 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 4: from Elon Musk calling Peter Navarro truly a moron and 300 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 4: dumber than a sack of bricks is whatever. We are 301 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 4: the most transparent administration in history, expressing our disagreements in public. 302 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 4: So clearly the attitude from the President and from the 303 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 4: White House more broadly is, you know, sort of a 304 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 4: boys will be boys attitude here that you get from 305 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 4: that particular statement from Caroline Levitt that these two people disagree, 306 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 4: they're disagreeing in public, and the President is getting a 307 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 4: range of views in terms of all the inputs as 308 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 4: he considers where to go with this trade wark. 309 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: Buck, this is super healthy, right, I mean, conflict is 310 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: not going to be absent right in any sort of 311 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: issues like these. I'm talking about the way Caroline Levitt 312 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: responded to it. Yeah, I think it's better if you 313 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: don't call somebody dumber than a bag of bricks personally 314 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: and in public. You could maybe sometimes argue that in private. Uh, 315 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: but I think that's the perfect way for Caroline Levin 316 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 1: and the White House to handle it is We're not 317 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: going to get like trying to reprimand people for what 318 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: they say. Yeah, look, there's gonna be some I think 319 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: it should be viewed. If it were a Democrat administration 320 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: and this happened, you know what the story would be, Oh, 321 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: this is a team of rivals, healthy debate inside the administration. 322 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: You know, this just shows the intellectual rigor with which 323 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: the Democrats approach these issues, that they will strenuously disagree 324 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: with each other, uh, and yet still stay on the 325 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: same team. You know, It's just all about how you 326 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: frame it. Look Elon, for all of his genius, uh, 327 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: rub some people in business very much the wrong way. 328 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 1: I read his biography right, I mean, he's he's a 329 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: tough customer, So I'm not surprised that there may be 330 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: a little bit of a little bit of friction here. 331 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,719 Speaker 1: In there, right. That's just the nature of these things, 332 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: you know. Look, they say you can rely on two 333 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: things for certain death and taxes. But I want to 334 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: add a third one and one that is optimistic for 335 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: all of us. Pure Talk saving your money. That's a 336 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: certainty when it comes to your cell phone service. 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But yeah, 362 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 5: he obviously prioritizes two of our closest allies and trading partners, 363 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 5: Japan and Korea. And the word out of those conversations 364 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 5: was really positive and positive really for American workers, American farmers. 365 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: There are a heck of a lot of. 366 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 5: Concessions on the table. In the end, the President, of course, 367 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 5: is going to be the one who decides whether the 368 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 5: deal is good enough to change his mind about the tariffs. 369 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: There you had the National Economic Council Director under Trump 370 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: talking about the desire to negotiate in response to these tariffs. 371 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: And it's good news when you have countries like Japan 372 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: and Korea. These are close allies. These are Syria developed 373 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: and sizable economies, and they want to talk and figure 374 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: out the way forward, and Trump is certainly open to that. 375 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: Another point that I think is interesting is as Secretary 376 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: of the Treasury, Scott Bessen, this is cut nine. This 377 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: is a guy who has worked in the world of 378 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: macroeconomics and had to make calls and be right about 379 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: them with billions of dollars at stake for a long time. 380 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: He's a hedge fund guy essentially an investor, but a 381 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: global investor at a high level. And he says everyone 382 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: should understand that the reason all these calls are happening, 383 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: it's not that the markets have spooked Trump into taking 384 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: these calls. It's that they negotiations themselves are what they're 385 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: trying to achieve here, like this was always the plan, 386 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: essentially play nine. 387 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 6: It's all President Trump's decision. And he had a view 388 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,479 Speaker 6: on after Liberation Day that we should go into client 389 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 6: mode and let our partners think about the into the 390 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 6: shock and awe that he presented, and over those following 391 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 6: few days from April second, we had the I think 392 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 6: we're up to seventy countries contact the White House for 393 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 6: how to come and negotiate. So you know, I would 394 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 6: say that the negotiations are the result of the massive 395 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 6: inflow of inbound calls to come and negotiate, had nothing 396 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 6: to do with the market. 397 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: Clay, He's saying, a lot of negotiation happening in the meantime. 398 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 1: You brought this to my attention, a little bit of 399 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: a spat. I think we could say spat between Elon 400 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: and Trump. Trades are of sorts who serve time in prison. 401 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: Mind you for keeping Trump's confidence, Peter Navarro, what do 402 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: you make of that? 403 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 3: So there are obviously two individuals who have very different 404 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: views on trade and on tariff's. Boys will be boys, 405 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 3: and we will let their public sparring continue. And you 406 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: guys should all be very grateful that we have the 407 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 3: most transparent administration in history. And I think it also 408 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: speaks to the President's willingness to hear from all sides 409 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 3: that he has people at the highest levels of this government, 410 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 3: in this White House who have very diverse opinions on 411 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: very diverse issues. But the President takes all opinions in mind, 412 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 3: and then he makes the best decision based on the 413 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 3: best interests of the American public. 414 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: So to me, Buck this is reflective of the challenges 415 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 1: associated with the trade agreement and Elon Muskin general, And 416 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: if I were speaking for him, I think would say 417 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 1: I wish there were no tariffs anywhere in the world, 418 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: that the ideal world is a terif free one where 419 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: there is complete and utter free trade across all borders, 420 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: not dissimilar to what we have in the United States 421 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: between states. I think that Peter Navarro's perspective is, hey, 422 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: America needs to be created, aiding more jobs inside of 423 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: the United States, and the way that we do that 424 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: is by not allowing a free access to our marketplace. 425 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: And so there's a little bit of a conflict there, 426 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: right because and I think it's frankly a conflict that 427 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: exists in Trump's trade policy in general, because if you 428 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: truly want zero tariffs, then that would mean everybody is 429 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: competing fairly everywhere in the world. But it would mean 430 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: that Vietnam, for instance, which is making Nike shoes, is 431 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: going to have a competitive advantage over the United States, 432 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: because the average Vietnam worker is going to cost far less, 433 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: and so it's going to be much cheaper to produce 434 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: Nike sneakers in Vietnam than it is to produce in 435 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: the United States. So that is an inherent contradiction that 436 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: I think is going to be balanced out in some way. 437 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: But I don't I don't hear a lot of people 438 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: talking about that. But you can be in favor of 439 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: free trade and have a variety of perspectives within the 440 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: free trade universe, And to me, the no tariff universe 441 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: is what someone like Evon Musk, who is a producer 442 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: of vehicles, is going to be in favor of. I 443 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: think what Elon would like to do is be able 444 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: to sell his cars compete freely because he thinks that 445 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: Tesla is the greatest car that exists in the world 446 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: without having tariffs slapped on his vehicles. I think if 447 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: you're Peter Navarro, you would say, no, no, no, we actually 448 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: do need some tariffs because we need to charge countries 449 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: for their ability to access our product. And Trump has 450 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: taken parts of each of those men's arguments as a 451 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: part of his trade policy. For instance, what would happen, 452 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: and I don't know the answer to this if China 453 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: just said, okay, you know what, We'll do completely zero 454 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: tariffs not going to have any tariffs on United States products. 455 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: We don't want you to have tariffs on our products either. 456 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: Would Trump take that trade well, based on the fact 457 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: that China is producing a massive trade imbalance, my thought 458 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: process would be no, that he wouldn't take that trade, 459 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: but he might take that trade with Great Britain, or 460 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: he might take that trade with Canada or other places 461 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: such as that you pointed out, Buck, and I think 462 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: it's a good point. What was it that there's a 463 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: huge tariff on Canadian dairy because they don't want American 464 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: milk to come into their market. Theoretically, I guess we're 465 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: producing dairy products at a cheaper rate than Canada is, 466 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: So to protect Canadian dairy farmers, there is a huge 467 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: tariff on American milk coming into their country, which is 468 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: the opposite of free trade, right, it's protection. Also, this 469 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: also is a reminder that there's the official tariff and 470 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: then there's the real trade barriers that exist. In the 471 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: case of something like the EU, there's all this oh, 472 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: we we can't you know, trust your meat because we 473 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: have a different procedure, or your dairy has hormones, or 474 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: you know, whatever it may be. Now maybe some of 475 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: that is legit or good faith, but some of it 476 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: is just a way of protecting the home team's turf 477 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: or whatever it is that they're producing. Right, So there's 478 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: there's a lot of different and that isn't even some 479 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: of you have been pointing this out. I think that's 480 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: also worth mentioning the that the value added tax, Yes, right, 481 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: when you think about how the VAT is something that 482 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: also it's like twenty percent in a lot of places. 483 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: I mean I haven't whenever I go to Europe, I'm 484 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: just like, what is this stupid tax I have to pay? 485 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: And I think you get it back on certain items 486 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: when you leave. But the point is there's a lot 487 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: of a lot of ways that they both extract revenue 488 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: from foreign competitors and create barriers that aren't just we're 489 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: terrifing you twenty percent. Right. So Trump is looking at 490 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: all this stuff, which is why the negotiation should happen. 491 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: You know, this reminds me a little bit of the 492 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: dispute that happens or Clay, the back and forth over 493 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: taxes or spending in this country. The people that don't 494 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: like it, do they really think that it's perfect? The 495 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: way that it is like, is there nothing to be 496 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: said about maybe, you know, looking at some of our 497 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: trade agreements with I'm talking about allies now put aside 498 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: the China trade war stuff, but with some of our allies, 499 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: there's nothing to be said that could make it better. Yeah, 500 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: you know, they said that about the US Mexico Canada 501 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: agreement until they realized, oh no, he's right. It actually 502 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: should be it should be updated. It is old and 503 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: should be looked at again. And now we have USMCA, 504 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: and there are a whole bunch of things that are 505 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: exempted from these tariffs that are in the USMCA because 506 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: Trump is trying to build on this right. So, I 507 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: just don't think it's I don't think it's a situation 508 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: where anybody should think that they haven't thought this thing through. Look, 509 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 1: Nara and Navarro, maybe he's a little bit of a 510 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: of a you know, terror fundamentalist, and maybe Elon is 511 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: going a little too far in the other direction. So 512 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: they'll meet somewhere in the middle. I would say this Elon, 513 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: and we give Elon full credit here for all the 514 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: great things he's doing. And I thought he was wrong 515 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: on H one B Visas. I remember that when I 516 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: was in Spain. He did not actually know what was 517 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: going on that H one B visas are a huge 518 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: source of scam. A lot of scam going on with 519 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: H one bvs. There's a lot of lies being told. 520 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: And he learned, and I think he moved off that 521 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: issue a bit, or at least changed his tune on 522 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: that issue a bit. So you know, the guys, he 523 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: doesn't know everything. He's also there's also an element of 524 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: real politic and what he does. He is fundamentally pro 525 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: free speech in the United States. He's not in favor 526 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: of it in China. I don't think he would have 527 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: bought Twitter if Twitter were available in China. And he 528 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: is one of the most successful car makers in China. 529 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: And people sometimes say, oh, Clay, you know you're critical 530 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: of the NBA. Why aren't you. I'm only critical of 531 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: businesses that claim to be moral authorities in the United 532 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: States and then don't have any moral authority elsewhere. In 533 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: other words, if you're Lebron James and you're gonna say 534 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: America stinks, I refuse to stand for the national anthem, 535 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: and then you go to China and you stand for 536 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: the Chinese national anthem, I'm sorry, you're a fraud if 537 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: you're going to be like the WWE, which my kids 538 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: love the wrestling out there, but grow up some of 539 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: you probably with Hulk Hogan and Machovan Randy Savage. My 540 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: kids have loved the WWE. WWE goes to Saudi Arabia, 541 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: they go to UFC is the same way they go 542 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: everywhere in the world, and they put on their fights, 543 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: but they don't sit around and tell you that America 544 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: is awful. I don't begrudge any business that wants to 545 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: be popular everywhere in the world and has to do that, 546 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: and so I do think that the Elon Musk versus 547 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: Peter Navarro actually illuminates the tension. You can be in 548 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: favor of altering American trade practices, either to have freer 549 00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: trade where tariffs don't exist at all, or to modify 550 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: it so that we have more tariffs because you think 551 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: American manufacturing needs to come back. There's a tension there. 552 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: Trump is going to I think, finagle that tension by 553 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: having different rules for different countries. As a result, Buck, 554 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you treat England and Australia different 555 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: than you treat China, and that doesn't mean that you're 556 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: not being consistent in your principles. It's just that there's 557 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: different goals for different markets in different countries based on 558 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: how things are going. I was just down Monday at 559 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: the Trump golf Course at West Palm Beach, and I 560 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: was with the guys, Frank Siller and his team of 561 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: tunnel to towers, and they raised over two million dollars 562 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: for first responders, military, police officers, firemen, everybody out there 563 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: that's putting their lives on the line. They raised over 564 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: two million dollars on that day alone, and they got 565 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: ten million dollars in additional pledges to help pay off 566 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: the mortgages to help create homes for injured veterans. I 567 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: just can't tell you enough about the work that they 568 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: are doing and why I'm so proud to be helping them. 569 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: Let me tell you a story about one of America's 570 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: heroes out there, Mark Hulbert. Born into a military family. 571 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: His dad served twenty five years, grandfather fought in World 572 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: War Two. He was third generation and he joined the Army. 573 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: He served multiple tours, three in Afghanistan. In fact, on 574 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: his fourth tour, he stepped on an ied lost two 575 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: of his fingers, both of his legs. The Tunnel to 576 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: Towers Foundation provided Mark and his family with a mortgage 577 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: free smart home, which enables Mark to live more independently. 578 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: Mark and so many others have paid a high price 579 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: to protect our country and our communities. Friends like you 580 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: have helped to say thank you to Mark and so 581 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: many others, not just with their words, but through their actions, 582 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: help even more of America's heroes like Mark by supporting 583 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: Tunnel to Towers. Join us in donating eleven dollars a 584 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: month to Tunnel to Towers at time too, t dot org. 585 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: That's t the number two t dot org news. You 586 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: can count on as some laughs too. 587 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: Clay Travis at bucks Sexton find them on the free 588 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 589 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 590 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. We are rolling through 591 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: the Tuesday edition of the program. A lot of talkbacks, 592 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: a lot of you want to weigh in on what 593 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: we have been discussing. Are these all locked and loaded team? 594 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: I believe that they may be. We'll have some fun. 595 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: First of all, I know that there are a couple 596 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: out there taking issue with my take, which is one 597 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: hundred percent true, that men who dye their beards can't 598 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: be trusted. I said that yesterday. Some of you agreed, 599 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: others of you did not. Let's have a little bit 600 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: of fun with these and then we'll see whether or not. 601 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: The rest of the talkbacks have been officially put in 602 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: to the repertoire. Here is Bebe. This is San Diego 603 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: listener Corey on news radio six hundred cogo. Let's hear 604 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: what they have to say. 605 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 7: My dad is seventy one years old. He dyes his 606 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 7: beard and his hair. But the guy barely looks sixty, 607 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 7: so he still looks great and you could definitely trust him. Now. 608 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 7: I'm not saying that because he's my dad. 609 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 5: He just is a trustworthy guy. 610 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, guys, Corey. I disagree. I think your dad 611 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: would be even more trustworthy if he went full Ernest 612 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 1: Hemingway with the white beard. How did Sanna white beard 613 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: guy more trustworthy? Does anybody look at Hemingway or Santa 614 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: and think, you know what, I can't trust this guy. 615 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: I think white bearded man way more trustworthy than old 616 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: guy who died his beard. Well, would you trust imagine 617 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: Sanna no beard is like, hey, Clay, like, tell your 618 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: ten year old to hop on my knee. I think 619 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: you're like, I don't know. If you hop on Santa's 620 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: knee with no beard, it feels. Think about how much 621 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: scarier it would be if Sanna had like a dark beard. 622 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: He would look like a Civil War general. No way 623 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: you're letting your kids sit on that guy's lap. He's 624 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: probably got a bowie knife and in his Santa belt. 625 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: I mean, look, think about Santa with a dark beard. 626 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: It doesn't work. Santa dying is beard. It's it's a failure. 627 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: Corey's wrong. And you know what in Tucson, Arizona Preston 628 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: he says, guys who die their beard they voted for Kamala. 629 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: I think he's right, Clay Buck, this is pressing and 630 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: Tucson just want to let you guys know at one 631 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: percent agree with plays take. 632 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 4: I work at construction and we do see a couple 633 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 4: of fellows out here trying to dye their beards, and 634 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 4: they're using the guys who are just sitting there. 635 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: With loafers on, not work boots. 636 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 6: Not doing anything that they supposed to do with They've 637 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 6: definitely voted for Kamala. 638 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 7: Don't dye your beard. 639 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: I will say this, you don't want to be the 640 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: guy at a construction work site wearing penny loafers with 641 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: a dyed beard, because they will assume that you voted 642 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: for Kamala. Like that's not proper work attire for I 643 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: would have think there are very many construction workers with 644 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: the dyed beard. You know, first of all, you're out 645 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: there in the elements. The rain could start to come down. 646 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 1: I don't know how you recover from the beard die 647 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: like rolling down, rolling down your face. You can't be 648 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: trusted anymore by the way. You guys on the talkbacks 649 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: are phenomenal. Let's see where we are with I got 650 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: Austin FF. This is Austin, Texas listener Nancy with baby 651 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: advice for me. Play it. 652 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 7: I bet I heard the baby's coming soon. I have 653 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 7: some advice for you in the during the labor and 654 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 7: that would be to match moods with Carrie. If she's 655 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 7: happy and excited, you're happy and excited. If she's serious 656 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 7: and focused, you're serious and focused. If she's yelling, screaming 657 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 7: and hitting people, you just stay serious and focused. Also 658 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 7: helpful if you know her goals regarding the birth, and 659 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 7: you can share those with the medical staff. That's the luck. 660 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: I mean the birth. The goal is definitely have a 661 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: baby boys healthy, so we know what we're on. It 662 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: seems like a good goal. What I will tell you, 663 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: Buck that you should be prepared for. I have yet 664 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: to hear of a birth delivery room and a recovery 665 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: room that has a comfortable bed to sleep on for dad. Now, 666 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: I understand my amping. A camping air mattress that I 667 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: am bringing to the hospital. Is that crazy? I feel like, 668 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: why not? It is a little bit crazy, I think, 669 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: but I bet it'll be way more comfortable than the 670 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: like I don't know. It's as if they design those 671 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: sleeping couches to make them as uncomfortable as possible. And 672 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: I think you're I didn't know you could bring your 673 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: own bed to the hospital. So that is it's a 674 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: little fits in a backpack. You know, it's what I 675 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: did in the CIA. You know I have to go. 676 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: You're gonna get tripped all over. There's no telling how 677 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: this is going to go. But I've never even heard 678 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,720 Speaker 1: of anybody doing this. My mind's a little bit blown. 679 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that in more Buck's decision tomorrow, O 680 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: baby Coming. Thanks for hanging with us.