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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast. We're presented by wind

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Speaker 1: bat Betting is a team sport bet together at win

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Speaker 1: back Eric Allen here inside the studio. I am so

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Speaker 1: pumped today because we finally have Thomas Jones on the

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Speaker 1: official pod. T J. How are you doing? I'm doing great, man,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Hey, you know what I was

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Speaker 1: thinking about that we're coming up on almost sixteen years

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Speaker 1: since the Jets acquired you in a trade from the

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears back in two thousand and seven. What was

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Speaker 1: that moment like for you? Sixteen years? Man? Why do

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Speaker 1: you have to say that mass six? Hey, listen, you're

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Speaker 1: still that's crazy man, you know, I mean, my time

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Speaker 1: in the Jets was so great and you know with

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Speaker 1: the jetson and York, um that it feels like it

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Speaker 1: was yesterday. So to to actually hear sixteen years, it's surreal. Um,

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Speaker 1: how do you find out about the deal? So? I was,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was obviously I was in Chicago and

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Speaker 1: and we had just uh played in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I was having some issues with

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Speaker 1: with with the management in regards to just you know,

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Speaker 1: renewing my contract, give me a new contract. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: whether or not they were going to trade me or not. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, just business stuff. And I just so happened

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Speaker 1: to be in New York with my publicist. Uh. There

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Speaker 1: was a a fashion show at that time that bt

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Speaker 1: UH produced called Ripped the Runway, and so they had

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Speaker 1: reached out to my publicist because they wanted me to

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Speaker 1: to actually be a part of the fashion show, and

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Speaker 1: um and model some of the some of the clothes,

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Speaker 1: the clothes, and so I was in New York for

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Speaker 1: the fashion show, and UM, I knew that we were

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Speaker 1: in conversation with several teams for potential trade, but I

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Speaker 1: was I was headed to the rehearsal for the Rip

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Speaker 1: the Runaway fashion show and my phone rang and it

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Speaker 1: was my agent, Drew Rosenhouse. And the first thing he

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Speaker 1: says is, Hey, where are you. I said, Oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: in New York and he goes, are you serious. I'm

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Speaker 1: like yeah, I'm like, I'm in New York. I'm headed

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Speaker 1: to a rehearsal for a fashion show. He goes, You're

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Speaker 1: not gonna believe this. Uh, the Jets want to trade

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Speaker 1: for you. And I was like, what, you know? It

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Speaker 1: was just because I was assuming that we were going

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Speaker 1: to get something done in Chicago. We just I just

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Speaker 1: played in the Super Bowl. You know, we had a

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Speaker 1: great team. You know, we had great nucleus. I figured, okay,

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Speaker 1: they'll bring me back, um. And he said they wanted

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Speaker 1: to trade for me. And I said, okay, well that's great.

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Speaker 1: I guess you know, I don't know all the details,

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Speaker 1: but um, you know, yeah, tell me more. So he goes, well,

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Speaker 1: the fact that you're in New York is great because

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Speaker 1: they were gonna fly you into New York immediately, like today,

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Speaker 1: but you're already there. How far away are you from

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Speaker 1: Long Island? Um? And I was like, well, I'm in

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Speaker 1: Manhattani in the city. He was like, okay, well, how

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Speaker 1: soon can you get to Long Island to the jet facility?

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Speaker 1: And I was, you know, I didn't know, but I

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Speaker 1: is traffic and maybe an hour of traffic. And say, okay.

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Speaker 1: So me and my publicists we found out that the

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Speaker 1: Jets want to trade for me in a in the

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Speaker 1: suv headed to rehearsal for a fashion show in New York.

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Speaker 1: So it's crazy amazing. Listen, you have you had so

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Speaker 1: many intrasts off the field, and we're gonna get to

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Speaker 1: what you're doing now. But did your head starts spending

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Speaker 1: at that time, like, Hey, this is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: cool opportunity to play with the Jets, but maybe I

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Speaker 1: those experiences are gonna me post career. Yeah, definitely. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Chicago is a great city. There's a lot of opportunities

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Speaker 1: uh the mecca. You know, of of of opportunities, you know,

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Speaker 1: and so um, at the time, I was really focused on, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what is my football career gonna look like? Um, you

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Speaker 1: know if I'm traded here. Um. But also I love

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Speaker 1: I mean, that would have been the perfect place for

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Speaker 1: me to be traded to from Chicago. But did you

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Speaker 1: get in UM introduced anybody in the film world in

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Speaker 1: So I spent a little more time in l A

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Speaker 1: in New York and the entertainment industry at that time too.

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Speaker 1: How would you describe those three years? Oh seven and

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Speaker 1: Jets fans will relate to this right now. Quarterback instability

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Speaker 1: for you and oh seven, tough year. Then you produced

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Speaker 1: on the ground. Oh hey, Brett Farve comes in and

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Speaker 1: the team. I remember over time victory in New England.

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Speaker 1: two years first, as you got your feet on the

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Speaker 1: they had a good nucleus. I think. You know in seven, um,

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Speaker 1: draftly different seasons, but also draftly different teams and drastically

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Speaker 1: different experiences for sure. Oh nine. Was that magical from

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Speaker 1: And so that year was probably the most fun I've

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Speaker 1: because every year up until that point, it felt like

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Speaker 1: think that season was the first year I felt, hey,

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Speaker 1: the offense on my shoulders. You were here three years

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Speaker 1: twice your teammates voted to you most inspirational. What does

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Speaker 1: It means everything, you know. I mean, you're with these

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Speaker 1: that we don't think about it. We don't um um

427
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 1: dwell on um personal traumas things of that nature. Um,

428
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 1: you can't. That's not something that you think about as

429
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: a football player. Vulnerability and weakness, that's not something you

430
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: can think about as a football player. You don't get

431
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: you beat. But as an actor, those are those are

432
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: the most powerful tools, is vulnerability and weakness. So, yeah,

433
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: it was a difficult transition, but I was very very

434
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 1: fortunate to find acting. Yeah, you were very honest about

435
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: that and forth right. You said there was a time

436
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: there that you didn't know what to do with your

437
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: time when your career immediately ended. He said, Hey, listen,

438
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: I was a guy socially drink, but you found yourself

439
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: drinking and somewhat depressed right immediately after. And then you

440
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: found that passion and like the Thomas Jones we all

441
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 1: know and love, you jump when you go into something.

442
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: There's nothing halfway about you. So so the other day

443
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: you're texting me. I looked at the time stamp. It's

444
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: two forty three in the morning. So can you talk

445
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: about your life now between Miami and Los Angeles and

446
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: what you got go on acting? Producing? Also, you were

447
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: involved and you still might be some application development. I

448
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: don't know how you're doing it all, but can you

449
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 1: talk about some of the projects that you're currently working. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah,

450
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: I Kim Man. I'm a busy buy I have to

451
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: be busy. And that's why I think football was gratefully

452
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: because there's always something to do. There's always more film

453
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: to watch, there's always more ways to lift. Um, there's

454
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: always more sprints to run. Uh, there's always more treatment,

455
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: always more time in the colde to um and so

456
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: um that work ethic that I as a football player,

457
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, I just moved all that energy and put

458
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: it into this. And so yeah, I have a TV

459
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: series called Johnson on Bounce TV that I'm the showrunner

460
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: and executive producer and also one of the lead actors.

461
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: Um that's on Bounce TV. And so, um, you know,

462
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: we're preparing as though we have a season three renewal.

463
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: We haven't heard officially yet, but we're preparing as though

464
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: we are. So if we you know, we do get

465
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: the news, then we're already on the ground running in

466
00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: Atlanta is where we film. Um. I'm actually hosted a

467
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: film festival in l a four day film festival, the

468
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 1: Pan African Film Festival, which is a huge festival. UM.

469
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 1: And I'm one of the host or the host of

470
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: the film festival. UM. And I'll spe speaking on several panels.

471
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: One of the panels is athletes in Hollywood, which is

472
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: for the interesting. Uh. There's a few athletes now that

473
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: that have transitioned into Hollywood on myself. Matthew Cherry, who

474
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: was an Oscar winning director. Uh Namdi Asoma played for

475
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: the Raiders and uh he's been in some incredible films. Uh,

476
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: Michael straighthand obviously UM Terry Crews. So it'll be a

477
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: really really cool panel. UM have another series that's about

478
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: to be green lit now. I can't give too many

479
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: details about it, but we're literally uh negotiating their numbers

480
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: and and and that stuff now right like today. Hopefully

481
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: the deal will be done by next week and then

482
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: um I'll posted on my social media page. UM. I

483
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: have a series of football series called Life After that's

484
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: on video right now that follows the lives of twelve

485
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: different NFL players and it showcases some of their the

486
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: struggles and triumphs of retirement. My story is included as well.

487
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: UM So yeah, I also have a technology company. You know.

488
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: I have a mobile app called cast Star for talent

489
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: casting talent um. So you can download that apps. I

490
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: mean anything that I feel is going to be challenging. Uh,

491
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna help me evolve and grow and learning things.

492
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: I just I grab it immediately because I'm addicted to information.

493
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: I'm addicted to knowledge, and I'm addicted to to to

494
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: growing involving. Do you sleep, No, I don't I sleep.

495
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm a napper. I'm a napper. You know. I go.

496
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: I'm like you know, you know those people who never

497
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: charged their phone and you're in the middle of conversation

498
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: with an All of a sudden, the battery. The battery dies.

499
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: That's me bad to me. The battery dies, and then

500
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: you charge it up or full and then you go again.

501
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: And that's that's what makes me happy. Okay, as far

502
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: as acting is concerned, how do you avoid being typecast

503
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: for certain roles because your former NFL running back, you're

504
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: a big dude, you got big pipes. I mean, you

505
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: can't go through a security clearance without somebody flagging you

506
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: for the guns man. Um. But but how how did

507
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: you like get over that hurdle? Because I gotta imagine

508
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: people are like, yeah, it's a big guy and he's

509
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: a former football player, so we're just gonna make him

510
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: the athlete, right. Well, I thought about that before I

511
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: started acting, and um, I added my middle initial to

512
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: my stage name, Thomas Q. Jones. So hopefully we'll throw

513
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: people off that new my name is a football player,

514
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: at least until it had a chance to see me

515
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: audition or see me on a show or in a film. Uh.

516
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: And it worked because it's very easy to be type

517
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: cast as an athlete because people they don't expect you

518
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: to be able to do anything else, especially if you've

519
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: had a great career. Uh, they don't expect you to

520
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: be able to do anything else as as well. And so, um,

521
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: when I started my career, I was like, Hey, I

522
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: want to come in this business as Thomas Q. Jones,

523
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: the actor. I want to be known as that first,

524
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: which means that everything I do in my life has

525
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: to be towards Thomas Q. Jones. Thomas Jones, I almost

526
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: have to forget him, at least for the time being,

527
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: until I'm able to earn the respect of my fellow actors,

528
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: casting directors, directors, producers, and also the fans. For people

529
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: to see me and say, hey, that's the character on

530
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: the show and then say, oh, that was Thomas Jones

531
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: from the Jets, you know. Um. So it took a while.

532
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: It took a while, but but unfortunately, I think a

533
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: lot of people now respect me as an actor. I've

534
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: been in some really really cool projects and it's a

535
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: really really really good performing too. So um, yeah, man,

536
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: I feel like it's worked. What's it like being a

537
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: leading man somebody's love interest. Yeah, it's cool, man. You know,

538
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: it's like being number one on the depth chart, you know. Uh,

539
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: it's like being a starter. Um, you know, I've always always,

540
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: I've always had a high expectations. I expect to be

541
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: the best. I expect to compete with the best. Um,

542
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: can you talk about those roles? Yeah? Yeah, so you know, UM,

543
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: my first breakout opportunity, I was on a show called

544
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: Being Mary Jane, which was a huge show for BT,

545
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: starring Gabrielle Union and UM. I was cast to play

546
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: one of her love interests back in two thousand and fourteen.

547
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: Um and so, um, you know, obviously I hadn't acted

548
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: extensively at that time, but um, the role was cool

549
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: because it was actually a football player. UM and so

550
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: I had to have some pretty intimate scenes with her.

551
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: And you know, I wasn't I wouldn't say I wasn't.

552
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't nervous about the scenes. I just wanted people

553
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: to take me seriously. I didn't want people to look

554
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: and say, oh, you know, I don't believe him. Uh.

555
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: You know, there's certain people that make a transition, whether

556
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: it's an actor into music or it's an athlete into

557
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: into acting, and then they don't take it serious and

558
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: then they go out there and then they kind of, um,

559
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: you know, make a mockery themselves. You know, and I

560
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: just didn't want to be one of those guys. So

561
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: um it was a great experience. Gabriel was incredible, she

562
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: was dupe. She's a great actors, great person. Um and

563
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: and after I did that, Rose was three episodes to

564
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: give me a lot more confidence moving forward as a

565
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: leading man, and it set my my my expectations they

566
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: were very high at that point in regards to who

567
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: I was going to be in Hollywood. I want to

568
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: be a leading man. I want to be number one

569
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: on the call sheet. Um and and so far that's

570
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: been able to happen. We talked about it before briefly,

571
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: but straight out of time. Something was that a breakthrough

572
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: even though that okay, this scene, you're not in the

573
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: movie for fifteen minutes, but just being in a movie

574
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: that was so well received, um and with so many

575
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: actors who you respect, and it was so well uh

576
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: put out. I mean, what did that mean to you? Personally?

577
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: It was? It was man, I had no idea that

578
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: that movie was good to take off like that, And

579
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: and I hadn't seen the film, so I didn't even

580
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: know when my scene and I hadn't read the script

581
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: because it's the role was so small that they just

582
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: sent me my lines um. And then I did the

583
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: audition and it was like fifty big guys in there,

584
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: and the name of the character is large man. I

585
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: mean it didn't there wasn't even a name for the guy.

586
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: It was like a large man. He's gonna do this thing.

587
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: He's gonna walk up to this guy's and he's gonna

588
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: say whatever. Um. So it was very like unexpected you

589
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: even the audition. I went in and I was there

590
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: for like an hour and uh finally got in and

591
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: said my three lines and I walked out. And then

592
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: the next day they called said, hey, we're like him

593
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: for the role. And then um, you know, I'm out

594
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: of Calabasas and I'm filming, and then you know, I left,

595
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 1: and I didn't know who else was in the film

596
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: I had. I didn't they didn't see me the entire script.

597
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: I only had like one page of lines um. So

598
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: you know, when I started seeing all the the press

599
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: and the memes straight out of Compton, straight out of

600
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: and everybody's seeing where they're straight out of whatever their

601
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: town is, the city is, and I started started seeing

602
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: the momentum, I was like, oh wow, this is is

603
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: pretty cool, you know, But I hadn't seen the movie.

604
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: They invited me to the premiere, and so I went

605
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: to the premiere and I was sitting in the premiere

606
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,959
Speaker 1: with my manager and uh, I was watching the film

607
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: and I was like, Wow, this is good. Um. Literally,

608
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a good movie. Like, because I

609
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: didn't know what was happening. I didn't know. I hadn't

610
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: seen that. I hadn't read the script. And then it

611
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: gets dark in the theater and then all of a sudden,

612
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: I hear my voice because it was dark and so

613
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: I couldn't really see it's nighttime on the screen. So

614
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, then I hear my voice and like and

615
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: the theater is packed. Everybody's in there. I mean the

616
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: producers dre q F, Gary Grater director. I was actually

617
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: sitting next to Kenya Bursts, the creative Blackish. He's sitting

618
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 1: right next to me, and you know, I'm like, whoa,

619
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: and I see my face and I'm like it was

620
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: it was just a real moment. I'm like, that's me

621
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: on the screen in front of all these people, um,

622
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: playing this role. And even though it was three lines,

623
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, it was a pivotal point in the movie

624
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 1: and you could kind of hear after my character walked away.

625
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: You can hear like the relief for the theater, and

626
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: it was very powerful. It was like, whoa, that's how

627
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: powerful cinema is. And I'm just sitting there and all

628
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden, people are like kind of looking at me.

629
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: That's him, and you'll start whispering. So it was a

630
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: cool moment. Man. It was kind of like a wow,

631
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: like you're really in Hollywood moment. Hey man, you've been

632
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: so gracious with your time. I only got a couple

633
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: more and now I'm gonna have you. I'm gonna circle

634
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: back with you. We're definitely gonna have you on the

635
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: podcast more. You're not gonna be a stranger character the Jets,

636
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: um Luke Cage, Uh that series. You're rolling there working

637
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: with those kind of actors. What was that all? Like?

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Speaker 1: That was it was great. Um, you know, shout out

639
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: to Jail Coker that created the show for believing to

640
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: me and giving me an opportunity to audition, but also

641
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: um the roller auditioned for they it was it was

642
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: ended up they ended up casting Theo Rossi. But he

643
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: wrote in another character command You, He wrote that character

644
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: in for me because that character was not in the

645
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: original breakdown for the shows. Obviously a character in the

646
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: comic book, but um, budget wise, they were like, hey,

647
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: you know, this character is kind of insignificant in the

648
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: story because he was more shades you know friend, you know. Um,

649
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: but Cho saw my audition and I was like, hey,

650
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: this gotta be perfect for Comanche. Creative genius, creative mind. Um.

651
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: But it was great working with Theo Rossi, one of

652
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: the best in the business. Alfred Woodard one of the

653
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: best in the business. Um, you know, maybe have to

654
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: bring my a game and and perform and dial in

655
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: because I mean these are prose you know, while while

656
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: I was playing in the NFC Championship game, you know,

657
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: they're on set. No, they're you know, performing in uh

658
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: you know and working with huge actors while I'm you know,

659
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: running for a hundred yards against Buffalo or something. You know,

660
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: It's like I'm doing something drastically different than what they're

661
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: both equally doing at the same time. So you know,

662
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: I was the odd man out, but I loved it

663
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 1: because he gave me out. Tony for forming the pressure.

664
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: When they say action is spright lights man, it's like Hey,

665
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: it's a night games, Monday night football, Sunday night football,

666
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: Thursday night football, whole city, whole town, holds countries watching

667
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: you know. So, Um, that rush was was in that

668
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: dopamine release of like this is pressure, you gotta step

669
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: up to the plate um that was. That was a great,

670
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: great feeling for me. So I love those type of

671
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: moments where you know, I'm thrown in the mix and

672
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: I have to because then it's exciting. Now it feels

673
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: like a little bit like football again. You're a young dude.

674
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: You got many chapters left in that book. But if

675
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: somebody were to play Thomas Jones down the line in

676
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: a movie, who what do you want that to be?

677
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: There's there's there's this incredible young actor, young man on

678
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: my show Johnson and he actually on my own soul Johnson.

679
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: My character, Omar Johnson is my character's name. He plays

680
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: a father, UM that's having some marital issues and he

681
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: has a son. And you know, we cast this kid

682
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: to play my son um season one of the show,

683
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: and we just hit it off immediately. He looks like me,

684
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: He's got similar energies, very very smart, um, and he

685
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: would be perfect to play me. His name's Kalle White. Okay,

686
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: I love that, love that shout out. Okay, the Jets

687
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: they're on the hunt for a veteran quarterback. They're committed

688
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: to finding a veteran quarterback this offseason. Any thoughts on

689
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: that because we talked about your Jets three years here

690
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: with the different quarterbacks and you want from one and

691
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: of the spectrum to the other with far you know eight,

692
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: then you go to Sanchez and O nine. What do

693
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: you think about what their hunt here as they look

694
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: for a quarterback. I mean, I think they need someone

695
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: that can come in and play now, someone that's done it,

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00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: someone that can push u Aac Wilson um because a

697
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: lot of times competition makes you better. You know, competition

698
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: brings the best out of you. It did for me.

699
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: I mean I was in constant competition at every team,

700
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: and I think, uh, Derek carr Um, it's really good

701
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: out in Oakland. You know, obviously didn't work out with him,

702
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: but he's a very solid quarterback. Um. I don't know

703
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: too much because I honestly, I don't really watch much

704
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: football this time of year. I don't watch at all

705
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: because I have PTSD from losing the Super Bowl. So

706
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: I don't really watch the playoffs, and UH see it

707
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: on Twitter obviously, now you know the social media. But

708
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: I don't really watch the games. You know, I'm usually

709
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: doing something else. Um, but I know there's some really

710
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: solid quarterbacks out there that could come in, uh in

711
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: challenge Jack Wilson. You know, I think the kids got talent.

712
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: You know, I think he's got talent. He's gotta he's

713
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: got a lot of growing up to do. Man, this

714
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: is the NFL. Um. Nobody cares about your feelings. Nobody

715
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: cares about um, you know, your maturation process. Um. This

716
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: is a business. People want to win. They want to

717
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: win now. Um, they don't you know, they're spending money

718
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: on tickets now, and that spending money on tickets for

719
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: you to lose now so you can win next year,

720
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: you know. Um. And a lot of times young players

721
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: don't really understand it because they're still young years old,

722
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: twenty two years old, you know. Um. But you know,

723
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: someone to come in, a veteran to come in and

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00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: challenge him and um, and it's gonna make the whole

725
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: team better. Thomas Q. Jones, I appreciate you coming on

726
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: the pod. Uh. You have a lot of fans here

727
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: in New York. Still, the beauty of you playing with

728
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: multiple teams throughout your career is that your tree has

729
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: a lot of branches. And now I know a lot

730
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: of people are rooting for you as your career continues

731
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: to ascend in Los Angeles, in Miami, in Atlanta. And

732
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: and who's keeping your company out? You still got the

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00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: dog and the cat? Is that right? Yeah? Yeah, they're

734
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: still they're still rocking with me man. Nina my bulldog,

735
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: she's uh, should be twelve this year. Uh. And Leo,

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00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: I having my hairless cat, Leo, he'll be twelve this

737
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: year too. Uh. So they're still going, Man, twelve years

738
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And and and they'll vote, they'll vote

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00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: be twelve. So twelve is a lucky number. Thanks so much,

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00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: you gotta thanks for having me.