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Speaker 1: Brad Sham, everybody, thank you very much for being with

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Speaker 1: Delighted to have you with us, Really honored and deeply

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Speaker 1: grateful to welcome in our very special guest who has

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Speaker 1: come out of retirement to return to football ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: the Great Sean Lay. Thank you for your time today.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to be here. I don't think I was

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Speaker 1: only felt like not to you though sometimes For those

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Speaker 1: or on tape on Tallascott Boys dot com um. That

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Speaker 1: is Sean's attempt at a several month old beard right there.

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Speaker 1: So I kind of apologize for how that better. It

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Speaker 1: looks good, right, It's better than anything you could do.

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Speaker 1: I mean that here. The lighting, the lighting is really good.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell the white thing that's on your face

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Speaker 1: is not even close to what I got here, Sean,

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Speaker 1: I shaved two years ago. I don't. I don't even

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Speaker 1: have it anymore. You never had it to begin with.

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Speaker 1: And as I told Zach Martin, I'm sorry Danny and

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Speaker 1: all of you listening to subject you to this. But if,

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Speaker 1: as I told Zach Martin at least six years ago,

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Speaker 1: if I had wanted to grow a beard, once upon

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Speaker 1: a time, as a very young man, I had a

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Speaker 1: full black beard, and it looked like like what yours

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Speaker 1: wants to be when it grows up. And so if

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Speaker 1: I really wanted to grow it, I could. I could

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Speaker 1: put yours to shame. But I don't want to grow anymore.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like an excuse, That's what it sounds like.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of beards, I saw Travis Frederick's at the game yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I saw him after the game, and his beard still

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Speaker 1: looks great, and he looks great. I thought he'd shaved. No,

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Speaker 1: the beard's back. Maybe he maybe it did shave it,

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Speaker 1: but it's back. Yeah, I think it does grow it

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Speaker 1: probably shave it all off and grow it back like overnight.

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Speaker 1: That's what it seemed like. But it was at a

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Speaker 1: Is that what your goal is? No, I mean I

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Speaker 1: would love more beard. More beard is better, but this

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Speaker 1: is as good as a kid. All right. How do

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Speaker 1: you feel physically besides your beard? I feel good. I've

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Speaker 1: improved every week. It was a tough start. The surgery

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Speaker 1: And you went into training camps such as it was

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Speaker 1: you and how about you being a player? Do I

429
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Speaker 1: feel empowered to ask you? Did the last this last injury?

430
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: All this time that I mean you've these injuries don't

431
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 1: just hurt your body, they hurt your soul. Yeah, that's true,

432
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: and it's true, and there's only so much of that

433
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: someone can take. Did this last one make you think

434
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: I'm coming back? I'm gonna finish this. I'm gonna go.

435
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna finish this year with my head high. I'm

436
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: gonna play as many snaps as they'll put me on

437
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,719
Speaker 1: the field for the last fill in the blank games.

438
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: And then I've got to listen to reason, and my

439
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: body is trying to speak reason to me. Yeah, I

440
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: think there's I think I think more. I saw it

441
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 1: as another opportunity to overcome an injury that's tough, to

442
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: show what I can do Um, I didn't dive too

443
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: big into the implications, but there's no question that every

444
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: time I miss time, it's hurt me. And really, you know,

445
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: I had all those injuries early in the career. You know,

446
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 1: at twelve, thirteen, fourteen, right now, I did the toe,

447
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: I did the knack I did to me, and my

448
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: thought was, Okay, in fifteen, I'm gonna I'm gonna never

449
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 1: get injured again. I'm gonna make up for it. You know,

450
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna redefine my career as a guy who can

451
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: help this team. And that didn't That didn't happen, and um,

452
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, I still helped us in a lot of ways,

453
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: and I've been proud of how I've played. Um, but

454
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: for a long time, I was like, you know that

455
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: that did hurt that I hate this is going to

456
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: be part of my career that I've been injured a lot.

457
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: But at the same point, anytime I have the injury,

458
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: when I come back from it, it's the best feeling

459
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: in the world. I mean, like, look, I'm battled back

460
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: from this and I'm still able to play. I'm I'm

461
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: eleven years into this. I'm the only guy in my

462
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: draft class still playing I've been through a lot of

463
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: injuries and I still can put out some and help

464
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 1: us win. That, to me, I'm proud of. Do you

465
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: share any of that with younger players, maybe someone like

466
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: Leyton who's been experiencing injuries early on in his career too. Yeah.

467
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: I mean I saw it last year when he when

468
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: he heard when he found out his neck was injured.

469
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: I mean, he was devastated and how hard, how how

470
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 1: much he loves the game, and how fresh you are

471
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: when you're like, man, I can't I can't be out there,

472
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 1: and I'm like, listen, you can't allow this frustration to

473
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 1: ruin this incredible opportunity you have ahead of you. I mean,

474
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: you're going to come back and you're going to be great.

475
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: Focus on that opportunity. Don't focus on the frustration with

476
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: missing time, because that'll ruin it, and you can't. You

477
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: don't want to look back and say, hey, I wish

478
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: I would have done it differently. I wish I would

479
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: have been more positive. And he handled that that great,

480
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,959
Speaker 1: But it is hard. The frustration neats at you. Do

481
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: you ever, And this this is the last question I

482
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: will ask along this line, I think I might change

483
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: my mind but I think, Um, you've been to two

484
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, as I recall that happened, yeah, fifteen and sixteen,

485
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: and you were playing at such a high level. Had

486
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: you been able to stay healthy from that point, I

487
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: really believe we would be talking about your career in

488
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: terms of evaluating the Hall of Fame. M do you

489
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: ever think I could have been that I could have

490
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: I could have been a contender. I could have been

491
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Speaker 1: that guy. I'm to be honest. It's more the games

492
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: I missed and the situations like I go back to college.

493
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: I missed two thousand and eight, we went to the

494
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl. We were one game away from from maybe

495
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: playing in a national title. I didn't get to play

496
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: in that season. I really think I could have helped

497
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, we play in Green Bay. It's more about

498
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: the opportunities to win a championship that you're like, well,

499
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: I wish I could have What would have happened? What

500
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:28,479
Speaker 1: could I have done in those situations? Um, the personal stuff,

501
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure that you know everybody wants to be great,

502
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: and but to me, what I think about the most

503
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: or or those miss seasons and those those games that

504
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: I would have loved to play in. Okay that I

505
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: think that's almost enough of the Shawn Lee eulogy rehearsal. Yeah, yeah, please,

506
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: we got we got a bunch of games down the stretch.

507
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: I mean, we're going to get and I'm alive and

508
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: ready to go, you know what I mean. I had

509
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: a couple of a couple of decent hits yesterday too, okay,

510
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: and a couple of des here and so so that's

511
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Speaker 1: Brad Sham, Danny Siaka, and our very special guest, Cowboys

521
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Speaker 1: linebacker Shawn Lee. As the Cowboys ease into the bye

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Speaker 1: just to remind you we will even though the Cowboys

523
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: don't have a game next week, we will have the

524
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: Cowboys Hour next Monday. And one reason is we never

525
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: have the Cowboys Hour the week of Thanksgiving because that's

526
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: ridiculous for everyone because it just couldn't be done. So

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Speaker 1: we will be here next week. And so we were

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Speaker 1: kind of just when you sat down, we were talking

529
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Speaker 1: a little bit about the timing of the bye. So

530
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Speaker 1: is there ever a bad time for a bye? No?

531
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Speaker 1: I think yeah, anytime it comes, you're like, this is

532
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: perfect time, unless it's really early. I know, what's the

533
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Speaker 1: early is bye? Well, I think there are. We had

534
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: them in Week four. Yeah, that's to me, that's too early,

535
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: that would be. But this right in the middle of

536
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: the season couldn't couldn't be better situationally, and I think

537
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: physically Steelers had the week four now that I think

538
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, yeah, And then it becomes a long

539
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: stretch and then you get that half bye, but we don't.

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00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: We don't really get the half by get it the

541
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: week after, I know, But but we do the three

542
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: games in twelve days. By the way, for anyone who

543
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: doesn't know what sean means, by the half bye. That's

544
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: what it is for the players. When you play on Thanksgiving.

545
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: In the days before, everyone literally played at least once

546
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: on a Thursday. You played on Thanksgiving, which was a

547
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: hard week. Then you had ten days off before the

548
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: next game. But the last several years and this one

549
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: will be like it. They'll go from playing on Thanksgiving

550
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: to playing on Thursday day night. Well, at least you're

551
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: back on a seven day schedule. And then you have

552
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: the half buy. It's not like you get cheated out

553
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: of it. You just get it a week later. Yeah,

554
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: but you do the three games. I mean that. I

555
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: don't think that's that's to me. I don't. I mean, well,

556
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: will you fight through it? But that's different. I mean

557
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: the days when there was no better time than playing Sunday,

558
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: playing Thursday and Thanksgiving, winning on Thanksgiving and then having

559
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: the ten days because then you had your family in

560
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: you had the full weekend to be able to hang

561
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Speaker 1: with them. Now you're back in Monday. We got a game.

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Speaker 1: Let's go win, um and you know, like I said,

563
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: there's no excuses, you go get it done. But that

564
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: was nice, Well, that was nice. You will be back

565
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: in Monday. You'll be back in Friday, because right, that's right,

566
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: that's right, Friday becomes Monday, Friday becomes Monday. Just popped

567
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: all the tire out of the air. Say something like that. Sorry,

568
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: that's what I do. That's what I do. But okay,

569
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: to play Devil's advocate. When you guys are coming off

570
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: as a defense two strong weeks, your best performances, is

571
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: there a worry that this might stop the momentum? I

572
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: think when we come back and you start to practice

573
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: that we'll know pretty quick. And to be honest, the

574
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: way we started, I think we know, hey, we got

575
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: to continue to improve no matter what, and we want

576
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: to be the defense. We've seen it two weeks. We

577
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: know the formula. Let's stick to it. We can't back

578
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: off it at all. I'd be surprised if it stopped.

579
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: But you have to work for it. You can't rely

580
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: on these two games. And to be honest, these two games,

581
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: we gotta find a way to win them. Like I

582
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: said earlier, we played well, but there's you know, down

583
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 1: the stretch we got to make those plays. How many

584
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: people I mean I don't mean an exact count, but

585
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: what was it? Just a handful in Philadelphia in the

586
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: stands there was, Yeah, there was not a lot. There

587
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: was probably seven eight thousands. So and you weren't on

588
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 1: the trip to La or Seattle. No. Yeah, And so

589
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: I think we're now at a point until the pandemic

590
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: flares up again and they shut stadiums down. The spirit

591
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: my glass is not here, crack at it there. Well,

592
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get at is how weird is that

593
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: I went to play in the stadium. I asked almost

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00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: nobody there. You know, I had asked the guys what

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00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: it was like because I didn't I didn't know. I

596
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: wouldn't add the stadiums, and they were like, it's tough.

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00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: And when you it was erie in Philadelphia when we

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00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: first got there, because nobody was in the stands really

599
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: in pregame, and I was like, this feels like we

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00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: went to the backyard and we're playing backyard football. I mean,

601
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: there's nobody here. And then when it just having a

602
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: little bit of fan noise helps. I mean, it wasn't

603
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: that loud, but it was enough to feel fairly normal.

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00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: And yesterday felt like a game. I mean, yesterday was

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00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: road game. Well it's played, we played, and it's like

606
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 1: when we go to San Francisco or we go anywhere.

607
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: We traveled like the Steeler fans to do. But when

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00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: we played them in two thousand and twelve, it felt

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00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: like a bowl game. I said, you know, we had

610
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: our fans going crazy, and then when they their fans

611
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: weren't crazy because it was you know, they obviously traveled

612
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: very well. So I have a kind of a random question. Um.

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00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: Last year, there was a social media video that the

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00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys put out. It's one of our sounds from

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00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: the sideline videos. Yeah, and I think it was probably

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00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: one of the top three clips of the entire year.

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00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: They got Antoine Woods on the bench taking a sip

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00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: of water, not realizing it was your water bottle, and

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Speaker 1: he was shocked to find out that it was coffee. Yeah,

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00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: that's my juice. That's a I love coffee. First thing.

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Speaker 1: I love coffee and I love caffeine. Um. I mean

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00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: I wake up. The first thing I do in the morning,

623
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: I drink these these nitro brews with a ton of caffeine.

624
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: The first thing I do, I go to the fridge,

625
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: I poured out, I get back in bed, I drink it,

626
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: and then I get in the car and come in,

627
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: come in, hot, ready to go. But in the game,

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00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: I love it. I drink it before the game and

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00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: then rite at halftime, I get it on the sideline

630
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: and I start to drink it for the fourth quarter.

631
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: So I always have it in case I'm tired. I

632
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: got it out there. So what I black coffee? Are

633
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: you drinking a latte? What are you? No, it's it's

634
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 1: just coffee and water. So we make it. We cool

635
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: it down. Like the first time you brought it out,

636
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: it was hot coffee, and you know, I'm trying to

637
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: chug it and I must burn myself, you know. I'm like, well,

638
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: we need to we need to figure out a way.

639
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: So it's coffee and water. And yeah, I love the

640
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: taste of coffee. I always have. Do you have four

641
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: or five cops on a game day? I would say

642
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: that's probably true, maybe maybe more depending how about on

643
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: a on a regular day, how many cups coffee? It's

644
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: pretty consistent, probably the same amount. I mean, I'm drinking

645
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: it throughout the day most of the time. That's crazy

646
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: to me. So no water, gatorade, It's it's coffee. I'll

647
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: drink water and gatorade also, So just to believe me,

648
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: I actually push more water and gatorade because I'm drinking

649
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: so much coffee, because you can't cramp, you know, And

650
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 1: I listen, we've had some hamstring issues too, so we gotta,

651
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: we gotta, we gotta figure out a way to avoid that.

652
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: Also so interesting because because he doesn't have enough energy,

653
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 1: he needs a little needs a little more coffee. Oh,

654
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: I love I love it when the coffee hits when now, um,

655
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: now you're on the microbrew. That's like, that's you're three

656
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: sixty five coffee? Is that right? That's right. Well it's

657
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: got a little bit more caffeine in it. It's good.

658
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: But mean, did you ever have you have you I'm

659
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of a coffee nerd. Have you ever

660
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: experimented with different kinds of beans and flavors and that

661
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: kind of thing? I have had different being But I

662
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: want coffee to taste like coffee. My wife likes my Yeah,

663
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: but you have certain ones that are I don't know,

664
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: they got hints of fruit or you know, my wife

665
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: likes those. And I'm like, I wanted to taste the coffee,

666
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: not fruit, I mean flavers. I just wanted to taste

667
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: like coffee. I want to I'm gonna send you, uh,

668
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: for Megan, a m oh sample of I've got a

669
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: little kind of a private blend. Oh, okay, it's got

670
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: it's got like a little vanilla, and there's some cinnamon.

671
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: You have you've always been, You've had a nice palate.

672
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: You've always been, you know, a little somewhat discerning. Well,

673
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: it's good you'd like, but there's I'm wrong with that.

674
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: I'm just saying i'd be in to see I want

675
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: to send I'm gonna send Megan some of that because

676
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: you clearly don't. I would. I would drink it in

677
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: your body, I would drink it. But I could drink.

678
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: I could drink I could drink gas station coffee and

679
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: not have a problem. I could drink full And are

680
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: you like are you like me that you can drink

681
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: a cup or two of regular coffee at night and

682
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: have no trouble sleeping? Yeah, I won't have too much

683
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: of an issue. Yeah, later in the day. I mean,

684
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: don't drink coffee at all. I think I have maybe

685
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: like three or four cups a month, and that's all.

686
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: Like days, I have to wake up early and get

687
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: ready to come to the studio and do a show. Okay,

688
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: so you understand we can't understand you. Yeah, that's percent.

689
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, part guys, I make my coffee

690
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: in a cure egg. Does that just kill you? Know?

691
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: You don't use some fancy No, I'm all right with that. Now.

692
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: Brad would have an issue with that. Brad's obviously no,

693
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: no no, no, no no, I not Espresso's fine for

694
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: an after dinner thing, that urge. Fine, look at him,

695
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: they look at him. It's not my personal look at him.

696
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: There you good? There it is there, it is. There's

697
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 1: because that's easy. You're you're you are young, and I'm

698
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: the go and you are not. I think it's yet. No,

699
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: that's growing under your feet. My beans I grind every morning.

700
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: I like the smell of the beans grinding in my home. Yes,

701
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: and then you get your butler grind your beans and

702
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: don't let him anywhere near it. Okay, I guess if

703
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: your cookoo has breakfast ready, clearly the cook is a failure.

704
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: But but the butler, I won't let him anywhere near

705
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: the car. I'm very particular, a little bit like you. Um,

706
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: So we're going to take a break here in a minute.

707
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: When we come back, I'm just gonna give you warning.

708
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: I never do this, but um, I am going to

709
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: give you warning that Danny is embarking on a new

710
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: hobby that Antoine has really helped get her involved in,

711
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: and so we're going to see if you have any

712
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: advice for her. Tell me where the hobby is. But

713
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: you gotta give me no, that's the tease. That's a tease. Yeah,

714
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: but don't tease me. You can. We're gonna tease everybody. Lee,

715
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm really like Cowboys Hour brought to you empired by

716
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: Omni Hotels and Resorts this fall. Do more than just

717
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,000
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718
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: a part of the Cowboys. Experience football season at Omni

719
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,360
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Speaker 1: enjoy all the dining and entertainment options the Star has

721
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: to offer. We'll be right back with Shaun Lee on

722
00:41:37,520 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: the Cowboys over to the Miller. Like Cowboys Hour supported

723
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: by Albertsons and Omni Hotels and Resorts, Boys, our Brad Sham,

724
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: Danny Serek, and our special guest Sean Lee. Sometimes we

725
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: talk about things during the break that we just frankly

726
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: can't tell you about. This is not one of those times,

727
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: but we but we covered enough ground there during the

728
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: break that we're going to have to hustle to get

729
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: to everything. We'd love to share it with everybody, so please, yes,

730
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: quick backstory for everyone listening. A couple of weeks ago,

731
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods challenged me to play Call of Duty because

732
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: I have never played before and I am a very

733
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: competitive person. So when he told me that I would

734
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 1: likely be as good as his four year old son,

735
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: I took that as a challenge. So I was telling

736
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: Brad and Sean that this weekend, my brother in law, Scott,

737
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: who has two controllers, is going to teach me how

738
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: to start playing Call of Duty. And I was saying

739
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,479
Speaker 1: that this is probably the perfect person to talk about

740
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: because who's more competitive, right than shan Lee. Yeah. But

741
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: the first thing, I'm terrible with Call of Duty, so

742
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: I can give you no advice. But you have played,

743
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: and I'll say I have played it and I'm not good,

744
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: and I got so frustrated I just stopped playing. But

745
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: the guys are so intense in the locker room about it.

746
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: I mean, on our way trips, if it's a night game,

747
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: you see guys bringing suitcase with their own console. Their

748
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: they got special like TVs for it. What it would

749
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: like to be, Yeah, special monitors and monitors for it.

750
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: Um like, uh, there's certain type of Wi Fi that

751
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 1: they want to speed up there the way they correct

752
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: what's going I mean, I took her my head too,

753
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: Believe me. I'm trying to explain that it's not over

754
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: Danny's head. What's running through her mind right now is

755
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: how much is this going to cost me to be

756
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: competitive at the at the extreme ultimate level? Suddenly a

757
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: little overwhelmed by everything that you'll be fine, You'll be

758
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: You'll be believing. What was there about Call of Duty

759
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: that made you stop playing it? That made you think

760
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: you could not master it? I was just so bad.

761
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: I mean, you know when you when you when you're

762
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: dying as soon as you go in, and here I

763
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 1: could barely even play. And then when I'm like controlling

764
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: the gun, maybe because my thumbs have been broken, but

765
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was, but like I couldn't

766
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: control the gun, I'm shooting everywhere. I mean, it just

767
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: became a mess, and I didn't deal with the frustration

768
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: very well. It sounds like exactly how this is all

769
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: going to play. How many how many controllers and or

770
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 1: consoles did you damage? I don't want to really talk

771
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 1: about that, but we should ask Danny what her temper

772
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: level is when things are frustrating in competition. I'm gonna

773
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: have to be poised because this is not my controller.

774
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: It's my brother in laws, and I'm not gonna want

775
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: to have to pay for one. So I will have

776
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: to be poised and control my emotions. But I do

777
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: get very competitive. It's not always a pretty site. No,

778
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: that's that's a good thing. Don't downplay the competitive in this.

779
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: It's good, especially in this. It'll be fun. And then

780
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: you know, I just didn't have the grit to power

781
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: through it. There's some things that I'm competitive in, but

782
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: this one I wasn't as much. What do you mean

783
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: the grit to power through it? You've got the No,

784
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: I got the power through that. I can power through that.

785
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: But losing on call of duty, I couldn't do it,

786
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: and I was too frustrated that I couldn't handle it.

787
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: All right, So then we were talking about fantasy football.

788
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: M I do want to talk about this, um humble,

789
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: very humble brag. In one of my leagues I am

790
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: nine and about to go the nine and let's go.

791
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: We congratulations, Thank you. You're entitled to tout your accomplishments.

792
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: But what was humble about that brag? Absolutely nothing? I

793
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: have earned it. I have earned no, yeah, verd GM, Um.

794
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: Everyone else in my league is not near to my level.

795
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: What's the who's in second place? What's the records? Actually

796
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: they're so far behind it. Really, it doesn't matter. It

797
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. That's you. You know what, it actually might

798
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: be Former Cowboys safety Danny McCrae. Yes, in this league.

799
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: I like that. He and she's kicking his buttons. Danny's

800
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: just an OKAGM, great football player. GM. Just he is

801
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: going to go six and three, okay, and he'll be

802
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: in second place. Oh wow, so you got a three

803
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: game league? Yeah, so I am sitting quiet. How the playoffs?

804
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: How does it work to the two games? Um? No,

805
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: we'll have four teams, so we'll do I think fourteen weeks.

806
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: It doesn't go like all the way through to the

807
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: super Bowl. I got you, um, and so then it's

808
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 1: one and done. So when you're out, we're sorry. We

809
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 1: were just starting to get to how you feel about

810
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: fantasy football. I like fantasy football, and I think it

811
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: brings a lot of people who maybe wouldn't watch football

812
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: into the game. They enjoy watching it. They watch games

813
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: that they've never watched and learn about the game and

814
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: kind of opens up access to it, which I think

815
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: is a good thing. Okay, time out right there. Do

816
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: you think that people who just are involved in fantasy

817
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: football really learn about the game? I think that the

818
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: more they watch, they have Let's say you've never watched

819
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: the game and then you watch it, some you know

820
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: more than you used to know. Sure, someone, so you know,

821
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: not everybody's going to be Bradsham. I know the history

822
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: of the league and the Cowboys, but and I appreciate

823
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: obviously that is the right, you know. To me, I

824
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: agree with that. But just having people enjoying it and

825
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: watch it is a good thing too, Yes, of course,

826
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: but then people think they're into football. I think I

827
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: think Danny's heard this story. I had this conversation with

828
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: another media friend of mine before the season started, a

829
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: training camp had begun, an Amari Cooper said at a

830
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: press conference that he thought that the Cowboys could have

831
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: three thousand yard receivers, and so this fellow asked me

832
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: out a radio show. Do you think they can have

833
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 1: three thousand yard receivers? And I said, let me ask

834
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: a question. Suppose that one of them has eight hundred

835
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 1: and fifty yards and they go to the super Bowl.

836
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: How would that be? And he said, Brad, I'm trying

837
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: to win the league. And I said, so am I,

838
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: But I don't think we're trying to win the same league. Yeah, well, yeah,

839
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: I get the motivation. What's great about football is everything

840
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 1: that happens. You guys on the defensive side do things

841
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: throughout a game that lead to the conclusion of the

842
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: game that determines whether the game is won or lost.

843
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: That's not part of fantasy. For no. I agree with that.

844
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: In the point emphasis is um not how you should

845
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: look at the game. I agree with that, but you

846
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: should be you know, you can disconnect, hopefully your fantasy

847
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: league from your being a fan of a team and

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Speaker 1: understand what you know. If your team wins, that's good

849
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: and your fantasy team you should be able to sacrifice

850
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: that a little bit. Maybe you can if you're too competitive,

851
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: I can. Maybe, No, I believe you can, But I

852
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: know how much you know and care about real football.

853
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: How the people you play fantasy football with, I will say,

854
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: am I experience and don't include Danny mccraig of course not.

855
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Speaker 1: Um see, I love Dan mccrai, but I love playing

856
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: him in fantasy football because we just smack talk the

857
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: entire He's gonna be such fun. He's gonna be so

858
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: mad at me for saying this. Danny actually was the

859
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: only person in our league last year to get a

860
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: trophy because it was a small, little toilet trophy because

861
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 1: he came in last. Oh, toilet beallore. But I actually

862
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: do like playing him. Um, you can tell you are

863
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: a trash talker, aren't you. I think you can tell

864
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: people who play fantasy football who don't really watch and

865
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: don't really follow the sport and like who they draft

866
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: and who they decide to play or you know, waiver

867
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: or make trades. I think you can tell that, do you.

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00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 1: I don't see you as much of a trash talker

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00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: in a real football game, Sean Lee. Are you at times?

870
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: But not really traditionally no, but situationally sometimes yes. Would

871
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: you instigate it or would you know? It's always response,

872
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: It's always responsory, and that's how I would now. I've

873
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: heard you on a football field, especially in training camp

874
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: when we get close enough. But some of the things

875
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: that I know you say are not necessarily trash talk.

876
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: There they are in the spirit, in the course of

877
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: the in the course of the competition. But I wouldn't

878
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: see you as a I'm not I'm argumentative, like I like,

879
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: so if someone you want to do this, let's go.

880
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: You know, but you know, and so if you want

881
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: to start, let's talk about this. But normally I'm not

882
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: going to say anything. I'm gonna play. I like just playing,

883
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: and I think that's the right way to do it.

884
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: You run, you talk with your pads. I'll always hey,

885
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: talk without your effort and your pads and what you do. Um,

886
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: all the other stuff. I mean, getting excited for a

887
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: big play, that's passionate, that's part of the game. But

888
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: some of the excessive stuff, Now, I've never been too

889
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: big of a fan of it. All Right, So when

890
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: you are in the off season and um, and there

891
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: are no televisions to swear at and you're not playing

892
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: video games, we've established that. UM, when you go sit

893
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: out on the boat, what what is it that you're doing?

894
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: What do you how do you pass the time? Well,

895
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: I am out on the boat. You know that I

896
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: know i'd like to get to. I like I've become

897
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: much much more um of a guy who likes to

898
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: be outdoors. I'd like to hike. UM. I like I

899
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 1: got two dogs, Finn and Whalen, um that I'd love

900
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: to take on hikes and uh walk them, jog with them,

901
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: take them different places on the beach. Um. And then

902
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: I've tried to read more as i've I've gotten older. Um,

903
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: nothing substantial, but just every everything that is potentially substantial.

904
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: But I've read like I'm a I read like half

905
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: a book and then I set it down. I got

906
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: another book. I never finished books. I'm so bad at finishing.

907
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: I swing between the two. I'll have fiction and then

908
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: I'll be on a big nonfiction kick. How how do

909
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: you read? Not that I haven't done it and might

910
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: have a couple of books that fit that category right

911
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: on my nightstand right now, but how do you get

912
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: like halfway through a fiction book and then you don't

913
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: want to finish it and because it hits it if

914
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: it hits me in the wrong way, and I'm like ah,

915
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: and there's like a hard part to get through. And

916
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: then I'm like this, I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, just yeah,

917
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: exactly where the drawings go. All right? Um so um

918
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: during now was that what what you'll do with whatever

919
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: time you have. People sometimes are not aware that you

920
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: don't have time fully off when you're on a buy

921
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: because you will practice a couple of days in here.

922
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: But will you just take the dogs out and just yeah,

923
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 1: and this bib will be this bib will be different

924
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: just because I'll be here and I'm still you know,

925
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: trying to improve and get healthier and healthy with this

926
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: injury and try to so I'll be here more than

927
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: I normally am. And that's it's COVID related. We have

928
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: to get tested every day. And then also coming back

929
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: from this from this surgery, it's always nice to have

930
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: a week where you can get in the weight room

931
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: a little bit more. You know, when you start to

932
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: come back, you're you spend a lot of time in

933
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: the weight room and then you get on the field

934
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: and you kind of have to balance your workload. And

935
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: this week, with not practicing, I could probably get get

936
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: in the weight room and get some strength going and

937
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: and maybe you know, continue to improve. I have to

938
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Speaker 1: ask you what kind of dogs you have. So it's

939
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: a potential sounding name. It's called a wired hair pointing grifphon. Listen.

940
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: This is how we found it. We we literally went

941
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: on Google and we type scruffy dog that likes to run,

942
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: and a picture of this dog popped up and they're

943
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: they're hunting their pointers. They're very active. My wife Megan

944
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: loves the run. I mean she's running four or six

945
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: eight miles a day, and so she takes them out

946
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: and they love to be outside. But they've been great.

947
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: They're they're goofy, they're fun um. So I've always loved Doug.

948
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: It's a wired hair pointing gryffon that sounds so fancy.

949
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: It's it's not even fancy though, it's not. It's a

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00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: it's like it would be like a German short hair,

951
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: but with scruffy, scruffy hair. Don't make it more than

952
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: it is, Brad, don't. I'm not, And sadly we are

953
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: about out of time, But saying scruffy hair reminds me

954
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: to wish you the very best of luck with what's left.

955
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: See if you can finally get a too, you just

956
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: have to prove it, you know. You keep talking to

957
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 1: Big Game but I'd love to see you prove it. Whatever,

958
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 1: let me just say that I haven't missed a game

959
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: in years. Yeah, no time. It's easy in the seaton,

960
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: yea easier, easier in the seat. You know that is impressive.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys very much. For Danny Ska, I'm

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Speaker 1: Brad Sham on the Cowboys Hour. This has been a

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