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Speaker 1: So what do you guys at the Kamala interview, did

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Speaker 2: Joined my record, I didn't think I was gonna be

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Speaker 2: allowed in the house. First off, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I think I was gonna be able to get on

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Speaker 2: the premises.

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Speaker 3: Wait, this was her actual house, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Ep house. I don't like politics. I didn't want to

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Speaker 2: do it because I didn't want to be involved.

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Speaker 4: Jack was a hard ass. Literally right up until the interview.

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Speaker 4: Jack wasn't fucking sunglasses on in the VP's house, sitting

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Speaker 4: in the corner. It's super uninterested, Like I don't want

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Speaker 4: to fucking be here. Why am I here? But again

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, I'm thinking like throwing the VP house. This

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Speaker 4: is my fucker's tripping like fuck, Like it's only gonna

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Speaker 4: be a forty five thirty minute like this. Jack was

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Speaker 4: not budget. I'm like, oh, he's about to fuck all

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Speaker 4: this up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did what Pig, big big.

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Speaker 3: Pull me to Pig.

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Speaker 5: I said, we're big, big, big, saying the kid, I said,

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Speaker 5: we're big, big.

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Speaker 2: Big, Come put me to win.

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Speaker 5: I did, We're big, big, big sing it again, I

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Speaker 5: do big. I do a big, big big sing it again.

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Speaker 3: I knew a big What is what is good? How

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Speaker 3: you're living, how you're feeling, how you're doing it? Is

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Speaker 3: the Big Podcast with Shack where we always do it big,

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Speaker 3: and we are presented by the best sports book in

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Speaker 3: the world, Draftking Sports Book, and we are live in

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Speaker 3: Boston at DK Boston. Can I hear you.

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Speaker 6: Ah ah, Shack, Can I formally introduce our illustrious guests.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you do it correct because these are my guys, two.

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Speaker 3: Of the baddest dudes to ever step foot on a court.

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Speaker 3: If you even thought you were tougher, your brain would

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Speaker 3: hit a boy. Great shooters, better teammates. They could both

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Speaker 3: clean the glass and if you step in correctly, they

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Speaker 3: will drive ninety miles to beat that long careers, incredible stories.

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Speaker 3: Both earned themselves a ring when it comes to the

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Speaker 3: podcast game. They did the damn thing. We are live

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Speaker 3: in Boston at DraftKings h Q and knowing these motherfuckers

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Speaker 3: everything they say is true. Put your hands together for

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Speaker 3: the all smoke, All the Smoke duo Matt Barnes and

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Speaker 3: Steven Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Was good. That was good.

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Speaker 1: That was good by yourself.

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Speaker 2: Thank y'all, thank you ys. That was nice.

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Speaker 1: Who wrote that?

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Speaker 2: That was dope? He wrote it.

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Speaker 3: To Boston this morning. Bars, I didn't take any smoke beforehand, though.

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Speaker 4: That was yeah, yeah, okay, in here right, everybody's in here.

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Speaker 3: So shack. These are your guys, yes, G fourteen classification day.

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Speaker 3: What constitutes being cool with you because you're not cool

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Speaker 1: Well, I play with Matt. Before I played with Matt,

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Speaker 1: I like, I like guys that play hard, and I

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Speaker 1: And then when he was on my team, I was

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Speaker 1: and he's just cool. Stack five US Texas boys. We

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Speaker 1: stick together. I share it like I know of him

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Speaker 1: I like to talk shit, but he talks more shit.

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Speaker 1: I let him do whatever he wanted to do, and

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Speaker 1: I like the way he played. And you know, here

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Speaker 1: we always talk about others. And when I talk about others,

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Speaker 2: I got a quick story of how great of a

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Speaker 2: many that I was in court, and the judge told me,

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Speaker 2: would please stay mister Jackson, I'm like, you ain't gonna

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Speaker 2: I could pick this phone up. He turned the phone

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Speaker 2: around and it was Shack on face and he dropped

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Speaker 1: Don't be telling them stories.

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Speaker 2: Man, he looked out for me. I needed that. I've

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Speaker 3: I've been I've been working with him for a few years,

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Speaker 2: Though for me personally, I've never seen the bad side

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Speaker 1: But that's it.

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Speaker 2: As far as with players and other teammates, I've never seen.

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Speaker 1: That, Matt. You have my permission to tell them what

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Speaker 4: Then I got a chance to see obviously, you know,

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Speaker 4: shit to shack. Yeah, ponytail Lou this story. So, I mean,

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Speaker 4: there's several stories I told the one in the mouthpiece.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let me start with a little lighter heart. So

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Speaker 4: For some reason, he's like, check this out, and he

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Speaker 3: I just said in the tights. I didn't need to know.

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Speaker 4: But I want to give you the full context. So

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Speaker 4: So goes to a full shoot around this when we

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Speaker 4: the game player that night, So Terry Port was a

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Speaker 4: alf Gentry was probably coached by then, So everyone's always

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Speaker 4: mean even Steve and Grant. Everyone lost it. So that

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Speaker 1: Of the I have a question, could I have made

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Speaker 1: that a DraftKings bet.

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Speaker 3: Over under the dingle mouthpiece over under the there's definitely bad, dammit. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: oh man, And how did Lou react? That's the part

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Speaker 4: But like, what can you really do? And that's the

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Speaker 4: Like it was a lot of it was funny games,

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Speaker 4: but like you know, for somehow, like Lou started kind

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Speaker 4: So Shack's like, all right, obviously Shack's not gonna hurt him,

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Speaker 4: but he's gonna probably try to hurt him in other ways,

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Speaker 3: So it was it was I have some season bets.

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Speaker 3: Tell me if I'm smarter, f I'm stupid. Wemby to

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Speaker 3: win Defensive Player of the Year minus won seventy.

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Speaker 4: Smart he should have won it last year.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the one seventy shit, but yes, Wenbs.

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Speaker 3: Seventy to win one hundred he is a big time favorite. Second,

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Speaker 3: that's well, yeah, the Draft Kings tell me his book.

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Speaker 3: I like, my favorite bet of the year is what

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Speaker 3: you just said about Embiid Tyrese Maxey. This is on

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Speaker 3: DraftKings to average twenty five points is minus one thirty.

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Speaker 3: I think if Embiid's gonna miss a lot of time

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Speaker 3: and Paul George is hurt, Max is gonna have to

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Speaker 3: drop thirty a game. I think I love that. That

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Speaker 3: for me is like my favorite.

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Speaker 2: Better average twenty five.

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Speaker 3: He averaged twenty five point nine last year.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna do it again.

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Speaker 1: We'll do it better.

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Speaker 4: I think even with those.

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Speaker 3: Guys right for bankrupting you, DraftKings my bad.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about things that are paused? Okay to have

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Speaker 4: Let's do it all the smoking, seeing it all the

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Speaker 1: Spoke Shack gum is always on. We out of here.

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Speaker 4: It's really just you know, the ups and downs and

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Speaker 2: Smell like that's why I got I start shaking.

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Speaker 4: It was my idea. We were at my house in

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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 4: What the hell is a podcast? And I was like,

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but I think we can drink and

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Speaker 4: Brian, Yeah, Brian took a chance on us.

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Speaker 3: It was cool because we had never really heard athletes

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Speaker 3: I mean, marijuana now compared to where it was five

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Speaker 2: Well, let me explain it. It's a difference. So some

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Speaker 2: I'm to break it down? So okay, good shoot around

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Speaker 3: But there were guys that were smoking up before the game.

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Speaker 1: Mark Madsen was on our team, very conservative, never spent money.

437
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Speaker 1: We used to show up at events and he used

438
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Speaker 1: to have sweatsuits and he didn't even know how to

439
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Speaker 1: buy a suit. So I took him a man's warehouse

440
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Speaker 1: about them about twenty suits. I used to do that

441
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Speaker 1: for rookies all the time. Another rookie about a car,

442
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 1: another rookie like I used to do a lot of stuff.

443
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Speaker 1: So but he was my favorite because he was he

444
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Speaker 1: was really a righteous guy like he He didn't want

445
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Speaker 1: to party with us, he didn't want to do a

446
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Speaker 1: lot of things that a lot of guys were doing,

447
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Speaker 1: So it was my job to protect him. So you know,

448
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Speaker 1: when I saw that he was righteous, I had to

449
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Speaker 1: make sure everybody left them alone. So he would just

450
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Speaker 1: show up and everybody'd have one suits and you have

451
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Speaker 1: on what he could afford, and he didn't know where

452
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Speaker 1: to go. So I took him and I dressed him

453
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Speaker 1: up and you know, showed him way.

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Speaker 4: I think my situation was when Jack was there for

455
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Speaker 4: me when my mom died. So we had that we

456
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Speaker 4: believe season in seven of Golden State, and my mom

457
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Speaker 4: died the beginning of the next season, and obviously I

458
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 4: was a train wreck for me. So you know, Jack

459
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 4: was the one guy that would check on me every day,

460
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 4: come over and smoke with me, watch movies, TV, just talk,

461
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Speaker 4: just kind of be there. I mean, the whole organization

462
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 4: was great, but that's where Jack and I went from

463
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Speaker 4: teammates and friends to brothers.

464
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Speaker 2: So that was definitely my moment in the league. I

465
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 2: had so many moments, and there's so many people. I

466
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Speaker 2: would can't answer this question. There's too many people to name.

467
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Speaker 2: A lot of people helped me.

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Speaker 3: Who do you think was the first?

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Speaker 2: I would say Steve Smith when I'll see me Stephan

470
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Speaker 2: mar Beer. My first year, he bought me a brand

471
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Speaker 2: new escalade. So. I had never been to the East

472
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Speaker 2: Coast out of Texas, so I was showed up with

473
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Speaker 2: the you know, we were the creases in our jeans

474
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Speaker 2: stand up from starts. The day I got there, him

475
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Speaker 2: and his brother was laughing at me. Took me to

476
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Speaker 2: get teams. I looked it like ot from the East Coast. Wow.

477
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Speaker 2: From just the day I landed, he brought me a

478
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Speaker 2: car and treated me like a little Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That was big.

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Speaker 3: Starburry is one of the true goats, like we had

481
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Speaker 3: him on the show recently. Just thinking about what he's

482
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Speaker 3: done in China too.

483
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Speaker 1: It's what a story, dude, man.

484
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Speaker 3: Unbelievable.

485
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Speaker 2: And he was the first with the streaming and stuff

486
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Speaker 2: he was telling people when he was on the Internet

487
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Speaker 2: and all that stuff. People thought he was crazy. He

488
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Speaker 2: was saying, this is this is where it's going. This

489
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Speaker 2: was he was how many he was how many on

490
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Speaker 2: social media now doing just crazy stuff to get attention.

491
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Speaker 2: No doubt he was ahead of the game. He definitely was.

492
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Speaker 2: He definitely was.

493
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Speaker 3: He was ahead of the game.

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Speaker 1: on what really matters. I love you. So when you

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Speaker 2: Record, I didn't think I was gonna be allowed in

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Speaker 2: the house. First off, you know what I'm saying. I

552
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Speaker 2: think I was gonna be able to get on the premises,

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Speaker 2: But it was. It was. It was the one probably

554
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Speaker 2: the most trying week for me and my brother here yeah,

555
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Speaker 2: we gotta do it. I don't like politics, you know

556
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, And he's he's real good at politics.

557
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: He knows a lot about it.

558
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Speaker 2: So I didn't want to do it because I didn't

559
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Speaker 2: want to be involved, you know, And a lot of

560
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Speaker 2: people that support me don't don't understand politics like I

561
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: don't understand it and don't really care to understand. But

562
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Speaker 2: being my brother and being that, you know, I trust

563
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Speaker 2: the guys that I that I have a company with

564
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 2: and and out there are my brothers. I opened my

565
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 2: mind to certain things and I did I was I'm

566
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 2: kind of happy I did the interview now, not only

567
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: because of what it's done for our company and you know,

568
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 2: the looking to look for us, but my daughter, my

569
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 2: daughter got a letter from Kamala. She's she's doing some

570
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: great things in college. My mom and my aunts was

571
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Speaker 2: all excited about it. So the women that I provide for,

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Speaker 2: the women in my life who mean the world to me,

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Speaker 2: that meant a lot to them. So I'm happy I

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Speaker 2: did it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I just looked at it from a

576
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Speaker 4: certain spot and obviously, you know, understanding your core audience

577
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Speaker 4: and how a lot of people don't like to mix

578
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Speaker 4: politics and sports. You know, I'm someone that is into

579
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Speaker 4: politics but also respect you know, the people that have

580
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 4: started to follow us, and I just saw it as

581
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Speaker 4: an opportunity. It wasn't necessarily a political interview, you know.

582
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Speaker 4: To me, it was I think we do a great

583
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 4: job of being able to humanize people, make them feel

584
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Speaker 4: comfortable enough, as you said, early and on to kind

585
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 4: of share the stuff they normally don't share. So you know,

586
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Speaker 4: we strategically came up with the plan to just really

587
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 4: get to know her better because again, she's, you know,

588
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 4: been the VP, so you haven't heard a ton. You

589
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 4: don't never hear a ton from the VP, and she

590
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Speaker 4: was the last minute, you know, candidate to represent you know,

591
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Speaker 4: the certain side, So you know, we just took it

592
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Speaker 4: as an opportunity. But it was a real interesting thing

593
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Speaker 4: because as Jack said, you know, it's normally we're on

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Speaker 4: the same page ninety eight percent of the time, and

595
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Speaker 4: this was a situation where he didn't want to do

596
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Speaker 4: it at all, and I respected it because I understand

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Speaker 4: his stance, but I also told him, from a standpoint

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Speaker 4: of your core audience, there's a ton of guys that

599
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 4: think and believe like you so here's an opportunity for

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Speaker 4: you and them to not only educate yourself, but ask

601
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Speaker 4: any kind of questions you want to get answered and

602
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Speaker 4: almost kind of understand how the process works. I think

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Speaker 4: a lot of the times as a society, we're headlight

604
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 4: readers and we don't really know how underneath, you know,

605
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Speaker 4: the Senate at the house and Congress as a whole work.

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Speaker 4: So I just kind of took it as an explained

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Speaker 4: to him, kind of as an educational process to get

608
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Speaker 4: a chance to know a little bit more and see

609
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Speaker 4: what happens. And Jack was a hard ask. Literally right

610
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Speaker 4: up until the interview, Jack wasn't fucking sunglasses on in

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Speaker 4: the VP's house, sitting in the corner, super uninterested, like

612
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Speaker 4: I don't want to fucking be here, Why am I here?

613
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Speaker 4: Until she came in and charmed the shit out of him,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 2: So she came in.

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Speaker 4: So she came in, and she took us away from everybody,

617
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Speaker 4: the cameras and everything, and kind of started showing us

618
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Speaker 4: around the house and these particular art pieces and everything.

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Speaker 4: And so she shows us a couple of pieces, and

620
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Speaker 4: there by black artists, and she teamed up with some museums,

621
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Speaker 4: so the first couple piece, Jacks like yeah, And then

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Speaker 4: there was one piece that kind of caught Jack's eye,

623
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Speaker 4: and after she was done talking about it, me and

624
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Speaker 4: her moved on, but Jack went up to the piece

625
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Speaker 4: and kind of looked.

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Speaker 1: At it, and hen.

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Speaker 4: I was like, she got him. Then she shows a

628
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Speaker 4: couple more pieces, and she had this really dope chandelier

629
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Speaker 4: that looked like a bunch of boons to be honest

630
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Speaker 4: with like little head water pipes.

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Speaker 3: This was her actual house, Epe house.

632
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 4: Yes, and and the piece and she explained the piece,

633
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 4: and then Jack was engaged, and so I really shout

634
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Speaker 4: her out because I think she kind of knew that

635
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Speaker 4: Jack wasn't really engaged, but I think that was kind

636
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Speaker 4: of her goal to be like, let me see if

637
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Speaker 4: I can get this dude.

638
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Speaker 2: She got him.

639
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Speaker 4: And then after that we were rolling.

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Speaker 1: One thing about Jack. If he don't like you, you're

641
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Speaker 1: gonna know.

642
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 4: Oh you definitely don't law. But I'm I'm thinking, like,

643
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Speaker 4: bro in the VP, hows this motherfucker's tripping, Like like

644
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Speaker 4: it's only gonna be a forty five thirty minute like

645
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 4: this Jack was not budget. I'm like, oh, he's about

646
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Speaker 4: to fuck all this up. And then lo and behold

647
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Speaker 4: like she must have felt it, and she came and

648
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Speaker 4: took us away and won Jack over. And about the

649
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Speaker 4: time after they're hugging and talking and she's writing his

650
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Speaker 4: daughter a letter and all this kind of shit. So

651
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Speaker 4: it ended up working out.

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Speaker 1: I want you to teach the audience something because I

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Speaker 1: know both of you guys, and I know you guys

654
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: don't always get along on stuff. So one of your

655
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: best friends, how can you have a crazier argument and

656
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: keep it respectful Because it's like a lot of people

657
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: don't say that, Like, for example, you just said, there

658
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: is that this motherfucker's tripping. A lot of friends wouldn't

659
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: be able to take that. But I know both of

660
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: y'all know the are But teach people, especially in the workplace,

661
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: that when you're working together, let them know it's okay

662
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: to disagree with things as.

663
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: Long as you keep up well on one thing about me, secking,

664
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: that's a good question, because this is something that I

665
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: take an answer one thing about me, and my team

666
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: will tell you I give the most props to the

667
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: people I work with on our team than anybody. I

668
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: tell everybody on our team how much, how much I

669
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: appreciate them and that I and I constantly remind them

670
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be here without them, without them, and that

671
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: is my brother. So it's nothing on this earth that

672
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: can make me not respect him. It's nothing on this

673
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: earth that would make me turn my back on him. Yeah,

674
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: we might disagree on things, but for the end of

675
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: the day, at the end of the day, it's not

676
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: five people on this earth that I know have my

677
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: best interest at heart. So when he talked, when Brian talked,

678
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: when the guys in my company talk, I listen, and

679
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: I'm willing and I'm willing to learn still because I

680
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: know I don't know everything. Tim Duncan called me the

681
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: ultimate teammate and then this business, I'll be my mama,

682
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: continue to be the same person.

683
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 4: So I think too, I mean to add on that,

684
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 4: I mean, we can disagree without disrespecting. I think you know,

685
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 4: there's been a line drawn. There used to be a

686
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 4: line in the saying and sports me, it's kind of

687
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 4: a bigger conversation. But it used to be like if

688
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 4: we don't agree or we may not like something, that

689
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 4: it's a conversation. But now it's the disrespect that's piled

690
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 4: on that particularly in supports me. You you know, so

691
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 4: Jack and I have had you know, had to had

692
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 4: our head you know, run ins and and disagreements. But

693
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 4: you know, at the end of the day, I hit

694
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 4: Jack with have I ever led you wrong in life

695
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 4: or business? And He'll tell you no.

696
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: You know, me and him and me and my people

697
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: have that that simulation. It's a little kid over there, Daddy.

698
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: We argue all the time, but I try to I

699
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: don't disrespect you doing Danny, don't answer that anyway question.

700
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 4: I mean respect I think, you know, I mean, especially

701
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 4: when you get to the level we were able to

702
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 4: get to. You know, you don't have very many real

703
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 4: people that could tell you some ship or some people

704
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 4: you would even listen to to to to really kind

705
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 4: of take that information in. So when you have that

706
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 4: kind of dynamic, and I think that's what makes our

707
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 4: show so strong is the fact that we can really

708
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 4: have those real and uncomfortable conversations sometimes that are needed

709
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 4: for the betterment of the company or the betterment of

710
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 4: our group. So you know, we've been able to have

711
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 4: that and and sometimes it you know, you have to

712
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 4: you know, you have to get down in the nitty

713
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 4: gritty and have those conversations.

714
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: I need my team like that's how I look at

715
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: I need my team like if I if you look

716
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: at it any definite different, any other way that people

717
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: you're working with, it might not go the way as

718
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: supposed to. But I need the team around me because

719
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be here without them.

720
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: Can I salute one of my celebrity friends?

721
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

722
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: Stand up brother you yeah? Stand up?

723
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah in the blue shirt?

724
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: No you? Yeah? Everyone say hello to Sugar Night.

725
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 4: When'd you get out.

726
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: Death ro baby.

727
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: To h to what you guys were just saying. One

728
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 3: thing I've heard from a lot of players is when

729
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 3: they talk about coaches, the really good ones are the

730
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 3: ones that are honest to your face and are honest

731
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: to you behind your back and you can trust them.

732
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 3: And I'm always amazed at how many stories I hear

733
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 3: that there are so many coaches that aren't like snakes.

734
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: How many coaches do you think are real ones? Like

735
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 3: I know I can imagine Papa is one of the realists.

736
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: There is how many are actually coaches that you can trust?

737
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: But for me, I'm i gotta be honest. I've been blessed.

738
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: I have Rick Carlile, Larry Brown, Mike Brown, Greg pop Vish,

739
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: Don Nelson. So I had and uh, Paul Silis. So

740
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 2: I had all ventured coaches. I didn't have no guys

741
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: that shot you the bullshit. They all kept it real.

742
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 3: So that does happen, right, Yes, yeah, I had?

743
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 2: But one one coach, Scott Skiles, couldn't stand it.

744
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 3: I can't stand right, not your teammate on the Orlando magine.

745
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: I want to punch him right now just thinking about it.

746
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 4: I love he was in Shack's wedding and stand Scott Skyles.

747
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 3: Did anything in protection? Was there one story that happened

748
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: that really puts you over the edge.

749
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 2: It's just it's just this simple. It's not personal. But

750
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: he wasn't trying to He wasn't trying to win as

751
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 2: a coach. Some type of way he was talked to

752
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 2: was was was convinced to take a dive and not

753
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: play certain guys. And when you got me Andrew Bogit

754
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: and Brandon Jennis on the sideline and we're not hurt,

755
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 2: I can't be a part of that.

756
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: Gotcha.

757
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: And as the player that somebody there's supposed to be

758
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: a tough nose player, that was a hard player. You

759
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 2: shouldn't respect that either.

760
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 4: Muh. I mean, I think, you know, I think the

761
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 4: real ones survived, you know. I think at the end

762
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 4: of the day, the guys that don't do it the

763
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 4: right way don't last. I have someone like Mo Cheeks,

764
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 4: who was obviously respected who he was as a player

765
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 4: and what he accomplished for the seventy six ers, but

766
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 4: as a coach he was he wasn't shit really, so

767
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 4: almost yeah, I almost had to fight Mo Cheeks like

768
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 4: it was like my third or fourth year and I

769
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 4: wasn't playing. So I respected my role. I got traded

770
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 4: with Chris Webber from Sacramento to Philly and like three

771
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 4: oh four.

772
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 3: And everything, both of you.

773
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: I got good hair.

774
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 4: Yet he might have been jealous of my curls. But

775
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 4: so I wasn't getting a chance to play, so I

776
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 4: accepted it, respected it. So I would work, you know,

777
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 4: before or after anything. A young player. I'm twenty one,

778
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 4: twenty two, trying to get better and work my way in.

779
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 4: But there'd be times where I'd be in the gym

780
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 4: with my shooting coach and he'd come in there and laugh, like,

781
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 4: what are you doing while are you shooting? You're not

782
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 4: going to get to shoot here.

783
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: Ha ha ha.

784
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 4: I was like, all right, ha ha, motherfucker, you know

785
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 4: what I mean. So it was one day in practice

786
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 4: and then and then we by the way, bro, your

787
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 4: new balance of dope as fuck. I keep seeing them things.

788
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: This is dope.

789
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 4: So one day we were in practice and I took

790
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 4: practice as games because I wasn't getting a chance to play.

791
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 4: So you know, I'm working hard and this back when

792
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 4: we used to really practice. And I took a shot

793
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 4: and made it, and this dude stopped in and made

794
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 4: an example. What did I tell you two weeks ago?

795
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 4: You don't shoot here, and that's not what you do.

796
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 4: You passed the ball and I just took off after him,

797
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 4: and Lucky Chris Webber grabbed me like right before I

798
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 4: got to him, because that probably would have been probably

799
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 4: the end of my career before it even really got

800
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 4: a chance to start. So to this day, I don't.

801
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 4: And also I also thank him because it kind of

802
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 4: gave me the motivation to hell, you know, work harder

803
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 4: and be able to mentally handle this game. Because these

804
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 4: guys will tell you once you get to the top,

805
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 4: everyone can do a lot of different things, and you

806
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 4: know your mental approach is how you know we'll get

807
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 4: you over the top, just Shack. I will have been

808
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 4: known to swing a couple of times, just like you,

809
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 4: Just like you.

810
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 3: So shacks punches are the scariest to.

811
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 4: Keep those windmills.

812
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: Nah, this is shack life enders not he for some

813
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,959
Speaker 2: reason mid punch he has to come to God moment

814
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 2: be like, I can't throw the back every time he

815
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: thinking about it. No, I can't do this to this person,

816
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: not trolls.

817
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 3: The Charles one was an attempt Brad Miller.

818
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: You pulled back on Brad.

819
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: Brad Miller wanted so sad.

820
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 4: And he would have remember them cartoons back in the

821
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 4: day when Daffy Duck used to get hit. This beak

822
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 4: would go to the back of his face like he

823
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 4: would have hit Brad Miller at that time.

824
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: This would happen here. So Charles hit me in the

825
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: ball with my face and hit me with the bar,

826
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: threw the ball at me right, so I stopped trying.

827
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: If I don't do nothing, y'all gonna climb everybody gonna

828
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: climb me. He was Houston, and it was in Houston.

829
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: So I threw the lazy left because I wanted him

830
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: to come on the inside. Then I was gonna try

831
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: to test, but he went around the other way and

832
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: then he flipped me, and then you know, he got

833
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: a little punch in. But the crazy thing about that story,

834
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: y'all know my uncle Jerome. By the time I got

835
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: through the back of the phone hand ring and it

836
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: was my mother and his mother on the phone at

837
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: the same time. I was like hello, She's like, don't

838
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: you hit my baby. I was like, who is this.

839
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: She's like this Miss Barkley, and my mom and her

840
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: were laughing. She said, I already talked to Charles. Y'all

841
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: shouldn't be fighting. Y'all should be sitting it, you know,

842
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: a good example for the children. We all mama's boys.

843
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do it, but I was like, okay.

844
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: So when I went in the back, he was laughing

845
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: and I was laughing. I was like, motherfucker, don't be

846
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 1: laughing now, because yeah, nobody back here. But ever since

847
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: then we've been we've been really good friends.

848
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: Uh.

849
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: Speaking of fighting the Kobe flinch now when I I'm

850
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: a but we're all bullies, but I'm a smart bully.

851
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: You know who the messer? You know who the no messer?

852
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: Like one day, our good friend Jelannie. I was trying

853
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: to bully him and he fell back, so I know

854
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: I couldn't fucking them. I know that motherfuck alone did

855
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: leave me alone. So when y'all was going back, he

856
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: wasn't back. Now he was back. And now when he

857
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: when you did the flinch and he didn't move, what

858
00:38:58,880 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: was your reaction.

859
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 4: He's a cold motherfucker. But I mean, obviously, you know,

860
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 4: you guys spent so much time together. You know, Cole

861
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 4: obviously not only physically skilled and one of the greatest,

862
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 4: but he'll mentally do the bullshit too. So Kobe is

863
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 4: someone who will elbow you, grab you.

864
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: He hit me in my.

865
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 4: Sternum and knocked the wind out of me. That game,

866
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 4: he went and tried to he was guarding me and

867
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 4: try to double and block Dwhite Howard shot and the

868
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 4: rent ball came off the rim and I caught a

869
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 4: dunk tip and he elbowed me all from like here

870
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 4: here here. Refs didn't call nothing. So it just came

871
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 4: to a point where I'm like, fuck this, We're about

872
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 4: to fight, plain and simple. And the ball fake thing

873
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 4: really wasn't even premeditating. I mean, if you look at it.

874
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 4: I faked the ball and the playoffs were a back

875
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 4: door for Vince Carter to get a rip screen to

876
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 4: get a layup. So I didn't even realize how close

877
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 4: like that shit touched his nose and his eyelashes and

878
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 4: he literally didn't just kept chewing his gum and didn't move.

879
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 4: But you know the funny part that And I've told

880
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 4: this before, So this is after that season we lost

881
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 4: to Boston and seven. They went and played the Lakers

882
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 4: in the finals, and the Lakers got that redemption in

883
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 4: twenty ten, so my idea was up. They decided to

884
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 4: give JJ more money. They initially said, so JJ kind

885
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 4: of took mine and his mar summer, mine and his money.

886
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: So I was up.

887
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 4: So I was actually gonna go to Miami. And this

888
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 4: is when I started getting called from pat Riley telling

889
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 4: me that the Big Three were kind of for him,

890
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 4: and then Bron and Bosh were coming and you know,

891
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 4: our our our closing lineup. He was telling me what

892
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 4: the closing lineup would be on I'm like, shit, I'm

893
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 4: gonna go from Orlando to Miami.

894
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: Coop.

895
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 4: I get a call out the blue from a number

896
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 4: that I don't know, and an La number, and it

897
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 4: happened to be Kobe. I don't know how he got

898
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 4: my number, and he's like this code. I'm like, yeah,

899
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 4: I get the fuck out of here. Who's this was like, no,

900
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 4: it's it's really me, you know. So we started talking

901
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 4: and I congratulated on the championship and he asked me

902
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 4: what I was gonna do, and I told him, I'm like,

903
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 4: I'm probably gonna go to Miami, and he's just like,

904
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 4: you know, anyone crazy enough to play with me is

905
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 4: crazy enough to or anyone crazy enough to fuck with

906
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 4: me is crazy enough to play with me?

907
00:40:59,200 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: Do you want to be a Laker?

908
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 4: And I grew up, you know, I was at UCLA

909
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 4: when Big fell and then we're winning the championships and

910
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 4: I grew up in Northern California and show time with

911
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 4: my team. So I'm like absolutely, And literally three days

912
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 4: after that phone call, I'm in LA and I signed

913
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 4: a contract. So that kind of us going back and forth.

914
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 4: He went and got run our test the year before

915
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 4: because Ron had tried to choke him during the playoffs,

916
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 4: and then he came and got me the next year

917
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 4: because I almost threw the ball in his face. And

918
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 4: he's like fuck it. I don't want to fuck with

919
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 4: you guys, no more. I want you to fuck with me.

920
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 4: And a funny story about that. Obviously, you know me

921
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 4: and Ron known for our defense. There would be times

922
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 4: where Kobe would like really try to cuss us out,

923
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 4: like if because we always guarded the best player to

924
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 4: save his energy. But there'd be times if that person

925
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 4: hit one or two, man, get the fuck I'm gonna

926
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 4: guard him?

927
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: Fuck that.

928
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 4: So he'd be arguing me and Ron on the court

929
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 4: who was going to guard the best player? So, just

930
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 4: his competitive nature and how fucking hard he worked, I

931
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 4: mean I never got a chance to see that before

932
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 4: or after. I mean his dedication to being the absolute best.

933
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 4: And you can attest to that, like he just always

934
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 4: wanted to be the best, no matter what, when, how

935
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 4: he was going to do it. And I always say

936
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 4: he had a ton of God given ability, but I

937
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 4: feel like he paid God back every day for how

938
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 4: hard he worked with that ability.

939
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: Most beautiful You've been saying a lot lately, and the

940
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 3: greatest of all time Kobe deserves more conversation. I was

941
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 3: curious when you hear the greatest of all times, does

942
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 3: it ever get you upset? When Tim Duncan's not mentioned

943
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 3: at all.

944
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I always he's definitely in mind.

945
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: I mean, how could he not be.

946
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: I mean you you just look at the body of

947
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: work and what he's done as a power forward. I mean,

948
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: he should be in the top five best of all time.

949
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 4: You know what I think too. Not to cut you off, Jack,

950
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 4: I think there's always a list varies from if you

951
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 4: played or not. I think guys that don't play don't

952
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 4: really understand what some of these dudes were like. And

953
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 4: you know, when you talk, when you talk about where

954
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 4: Kobe's ranks in the hierarchy of the game, and I've

955
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 4: heard Shaq talk about it, let's talk about it. When

956
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 4: you hear these reporters that didn't play, he's sometimes outside

957
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 4: the top ten, and we're just like, it's crazy to me,

958
00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 4: but to me.

959
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: But to me, always been a little man's list because

960
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: Kareem's name is never mentioned ever, right, So they which

961
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: is normal because you know, nobody roots for Goliath. Everybody

962
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: always roots for the little guy. And I understand, but

963
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: you know, Kareem name definitely needs to be in there.

964
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 3: Kobe, Kareem, Russell, Wilt, Duncan, Shack, are always.

965
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: Shack.

966
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 4: You don't stop modest.

967
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm most dominant. I'm most dominant.

968
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: You want to give your top ten half five, big Manira,

969
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: So I'm going one through ten. Yes, I go m J,

970
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: I'll go Cold, I'll go Braun, I go Tim, I

971
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 2: go Shaq, I go Magic, I go Bird, I go Kareem,

972
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: I go Wilt, and I go Bill Russell.

973
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 3: That's really clean.

974
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: Nice. Just thank you, by the way. I appreciate that.

975
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I've always been in my top five.

976
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: Bro.

977
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Shack is man very modesta. Like you

978
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 4: guys might not catch the same might not catch the

979
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 4: same kind of funny guy the asshole we know, but

980
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 4: Shack is always very modest. And I think what works

981
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 4: well for Shack is because his peers, the guys that

982
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 4: played against and respect him and understand how amazing he

983
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 4: was and incredibly wasn't in not only on the court.

984
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I've heard a ton of stories how he

985
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 4: helps the younger players, and I feel like that's what

986
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 4: the game is missing. Shack used to be the ultimate vet.

987
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 4: Shack go buy your fucking car a whole wardrobe. Like

988
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 4: there's certain things that older players are supposed to do

989
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 4: to kind of acclimate the younger guys to what this

990
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 4: lifestyle is. And I feel like that's what's missing in

991
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 4: today's game because it's kind of the blind leading the blind,

992
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 4: the young kids lean the young kids, and that's why

993
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 4: you kind of see a lot of the bs that

994
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 4: goes on because there's no vets. But Shaq was really

995
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 4: like the ultimate vet when it came to I'm gonna

996
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 4: take care of business on the court, but I'm also

997
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 4: going to look out for you and help you and

998
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 4: help you dode some popful the pitfalls off the court.

999
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 2: That's easy for us because that's what all the smoke

1000
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 2: was about. If y'all watch y'all show, we always give

1001
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: people they flowers.

1002
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 4: And he always had moll money too, didn't He always.

1003
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 1: Had moll money. I always That's for another show.

1004
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, Okay, I'm excited for that one.

1005
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 2: Uh.

1006
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: If we were building a starting five of dudes that

1007
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 3: you would want to scrap with if it went down,

1008
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 3: and let's say you two are on the roster, who

1009
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 3: are the other three in the starting five that you're picking.

1010
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: Big Fellers, z Bo and Uh, I'll probably go with

1011
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 2: James Jones Man James Jones Ze bo Shack.

1012
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: Just keep hearing about James Jones.

1013
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 3: It will kick you in the chart.

1014
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: No, I heard family fighting, Oh for real, youngster and

1015
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 2: all that.

1016
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 4: You got to think Oak was a mon out there? Uh,

1017
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 4: Anthony Mason were on our testsh Xavier McDaniels, Buck Williams.

1018
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so name just sound crazy, right, dude fighting a

1019
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: dude named Buck sounds awful.

1020
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 4: This just sounds like a bad idea.

1021
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Shack, who else who are you thinking guys that

1022
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: you would want to go to war with?

1023
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: Definitely probably a little Oakley. I heard about Zebo and

1024
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: now now James Johnson definitely got to go with him.

1025
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 4: But he's a pro fighter.

1026
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, the stories about Oak are insane.

1027
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 2: But I've seen him about Oak I've seen them real time,

1028
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: so yeah, that's true.

1029
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 3: I heard if you owed him money, it didn't matter

1030
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 3: if it was pre game or halftime.

1031
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: Even oh money. He was one of my coaches when

1032
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 2: I was with Charlotte Hornets and if you and if

1033
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: you do put a towel on your head, you got

1034
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 2: to fight him after.

1035
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: The game.

1036
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 3: The wrong way and we're fighting after the game.

1037
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: He came, he was coaching our team, him and pass

1038
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: I was trying to change the motive team and bringing

1039
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: to more of a championship field.

1040
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: That's why Jordan brought him in.

1041
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 4: In Charlotte.

1042
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: In Charlotte, Okay, he tells Joe, He tells Joe Wiseman,

1043
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: not putting no towers on the hell we're keeping the professional.

1044
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: You know, as soon as Drue come out of the game,

1045
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 2: he has long dreads put the tower on his head.

1046
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 2: Oak yanks to tower off. I told you you ain't

1047
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: doing that, Joe Wallace. He's the highest paid on the

1048
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: team at the time. We get another towel. Soon as

1049
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 2: Oak see it, I'm gonna see you after the game, I'm.

1050
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 4: Like, oh, he's coaching, coaching the coach.

1051
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 1: Wow.

1052
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: Coaches come in after game, we get out, we get

1053
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: asked will too and Mike come in there say a

1054
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 2: couple of words. So after Mike said his little speech,

1055
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 2: Oak ten times matter. So they all walk out the

1056
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 2: locker room. And you know what, in each locker room

1057
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: you can go out two ways. They all the coaches

1058
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: walk out and Oak circle around through the other way.

1059
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 2: As soon as I see Oak walking to Joe Waiter's locker,

1060
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: I just stay. I'm like, oh, you cannot do this.

1061
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 2: Didn't I say I was gonna slap you. Didn't I

1062
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: say I was gonna slap it. I'm like, oh please,

1063
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: are you a coach now you could? I'm looking at

1064
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: him Dan, please for me, Oh please, don't slap it.

1065
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: And he go off for like ten minutes and I

1066
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: kind of calm him down to get and he realized

1067
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: he's a coach now he came. He came this clach

1068
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: to slapping the player.

1069
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 3: Vince told me what from like back in the Toronto

1070
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 3: days that like oaks hands were like built to slaps

1071
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 3: man like the way he describes it. They were like

1072
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 3: they were like lawn and they were like callous and hard,

1073
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 3: and he wouldn't punch you. He would just slap the

1074
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 3: taste out.

1075
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: Of your mouth.

1076
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 4: And that's more disrespectful than getting very distressed, because a

1077
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 4: man to get slapped is like oh sh.

1078
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 2: Like this in Vegas, you know, they got the biggest bouncers.

1079
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: It took with them to get him out of the hotel.

1080
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: Twelve and three of them was knocked.

1081
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 3: Out and he's just slapping them.

1082
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 2: He knocked the first two whut by the pool, get upstairs.

1083
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: He knocked the third one out and then he had

1084
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: they all had to burn rush.

1085
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 3: He's got a code red Charles Oakley slapping guards at

1086
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 3: the pool against.

1087
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: Them out left and right.

1088
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: That's incredible. So the season kicks off tonight the champs

1089
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,959
Speaker 1: of Boston Celtics. So uh, three questions, give me your East,

1090
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: who's coming out of these who's coming out the West?

1091
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: And last question, do you think the Celtics can repeat

1092
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: as champions?

1093
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 3: And let me use some DraftKings sportsbook odds to drive

1094
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 3: this conversation. Yes, to win the West, the Thunder are

1095
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 3: the favorites. The Nuggets are in second tie with the

1096
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: Mavericks at plus four seventy five. So if you bet

1097
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 3: one hundred check you win for seventy five. Then the

1098
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: Timberwolves and the Suns, then the Lakers.

1099
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: That's that in the West.

1100
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: One Boston can repeat, cannot and they can see Okay,

1101
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: they are the favorites, the same team, same coaching staff,

1102
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: They know what to take and I think they have

1103
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: more animosity this year for what happened this summer. They

1104
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: got they got more a few of the tank West.

1105
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Dallas Mavericks, and in the East, I'm

1106
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: going Boston.

1107
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 4: I like Boston I really like Boston. I'm a big

1108
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 4: fan of what they've been able to build and in

1109
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 4: the chemistine they've been able to build. And you know,

1110
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 4: the health of Porzingis I think is going to be

1111
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,479
Speaker 4: important this year. As Jack said, you know, for Jayden

1112
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 4: Brown to get snuff from the Olympic team, for Jason

1113
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 4: Tatum to sit out two games when he's a top

1114
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 4: five player in the world is absolutely crazy. But I

1115
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 4: loved how Mizzoula and then went out and supported those

1116
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 4: guys who supported Tatum while he's out there, so you

1117
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 4: could tell. I think people overlook chemistry a lot. I

1118
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 4: think we live in an era where people think we

1119
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 4: can just throw a bunch of talent together and names

1120
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 4: and make it work, and that sh It's not true

1121
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 4: if you're really trying to win, win. So I like Boston.

1122
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 4: I like I mean, I see what Philly does this year.

1123
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 4: To be honest with you, if I'm not bad happened

1124
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 4: and be.

1125
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 3: Hurt yep that you missed the first game. Sixers are

1126
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 3: ten to one to win the championship.

1127
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 2: The Knicks.

1128
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 4: You know, I think the Knicks are gonna be tough

1129
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 4: this year. You know, obviously I'm a guy that's.

1130
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 3: Shack's not a believer in the Knicks. Never he's a

1131
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,479
Speaker 3: New York hater. Look, I went into the psyche of Shack,

1132
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 3: and I get it. When he was in high school,

1133
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 3: all the recruits ranked ahead of him were from New

1134
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 3: York and he's been harboring that.

1135
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with it.

1136
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 4: Nah, who don't you belie You don't believe in the team.

1137
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 4: You don't believe like.

1138
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: We We think about winning championships, not winning games. Knicks

1139
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: gonna win some games, but they're not gonna win on

1140
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: a championship. That's what I don't like the Knicks, my

1141
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: team coming out of the East. Don't hate me. I

1142
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 1: like Milwaukee.

1143
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 3: Fourteen to one to win the championship.

1144
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 1: Let me tell you why. I love when Yannis plays Matt.

1145
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: I love when Dane plays Matt. And I know they're

1146
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: mad because you know Boston is a champion, but I

1147
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: know they're feeling. If we were not hurt, they wouldn't

1148
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: be the champions. But they were hurt Boston's won championship.

1149
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: I like to see how they play when they're mad.

1150
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: So I was gonna say the same thing about Philly,

1151
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 1: But when Mbid comes down and says I'm not playing

1152
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: back to backs.

1153
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 4: What is your thought on that? I mean, obviously the

1154
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 4: game has changed so much, and you were someone that

1155
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 4: was in an era where it was a badge of

1156
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 4: honor to play eighty two plus the playoffs, and.

1157
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: Then well I didn't play all eighty two games a lot,

1158
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: but a lot of times I was hurt. So the

1159
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,959
Speaker 1: years we want, I think I average fit the games.

1160
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: Why can't you play back to back games? In the

1161
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: games that are non physical, he's not getting doubled, he's

1162
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: not getting front and backed, he's not getting hacking shocked.

1163
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: He's picking and popping, shooting jumpers. So I don't understand.

1164
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: To me, it just shows that he doesn't want to

1165
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: win a championship. And when you're making that much money,

1166
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: are you really that motivated? Like me, when I was

1167
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: one of the first that was making a lot of money,

1168
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: I stayed motivated because it was more money out there.

1169
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: So if I'm making two fifty I'm trying to get

1170
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 1: to the five hundred next contract, I'm definitely gonna stay motivated.

1171
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: So if I got to play eighty two games win

1172
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: the championship, That's what I'm want to do.

1173
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 2: We wanted to play every night because we love the game. First,

1174
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 2: we wanted to compete first, right. I mean, I couldn't

1175
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 2: predict how much money I was gonna make, you know

1176
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: what I mean? Because I didn't come in as one

1177
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: of the top draft picks. But I knew once I

1178
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: got in, I had a chance to make it in

1179
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 2: So every night I was trying to play eighty two games.

1180
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 2: So every season I was going into it I could,

1181
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. It's no way I could come into a

1182
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: season and say I'm not gonna play the two games

1183
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,479
Speaker 2: this year. That's just not was our train of thought.

1184
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: We came in thinking we was gonna do everything we

1185
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 2: could do this whole season and give everything we can

1186
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 2: this whole season to win. That's the attitude going into it.

1187
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 2: If you're going into the season with the attitude already,

1188
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 2: you doomed. I played three years with bone spurs and

1189
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: my big toe. If anything know about burns, bone spurs

1190
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 2: you have to go have surgery to get them removed,

1191
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 2: and it's like pieces of bones sticking into your tendon.

1192
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: So every time I'm jumping, it's sticking down on my foot.

1193
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: Every time I did that for three years, just to

1194
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: play the game, so I don't want to stand talk

1195
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 2: like that.

1196
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 3: All right, let's take some questions for the audience. If

1197
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 3: you have a question, we're gonna let you walk up here.

1198
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 3: We're gonna have a microphone. You can ask the question.

1199
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 3: Do not even just wait, just walk up right now,

1200
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 3: hands up, walk be scared?

1201
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 4: Damn it? Don't there we go? Is the first brave soul?

1202
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 3: Make keep his hand out the entire time?

1203
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 4: Yes, keep your hand up. Keep your hand up.

1204
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 3: Looks like he's got a broken finger. Keep your hand,

1205
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 3: Your name, and your question.

1206
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 4: Him, Alan, how did you like to get blocked.

1207
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 2: Up in walls? Damn?

1208
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 3: The man walked up with a smile.

1209
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 4: He was so happy to ask that ship too.

1210
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: He was, Uh, everybody gets to shot block. But I

1211
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: got a dude over there name Jelani. That a punch

1212
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: in your face if you keep messing with me, How

1213
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: about that Jelani? Stand up so you can see my guy. Yeah, yeah, no,

1214
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: it was Listen. He came from behind, he blocked the shot.

1215
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: He was a he was a great defensive player. However,

1216
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: he couldn't blame me one on one, so they had

1217
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: to come from a side and double on it. But

1218
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: he's so Hall of Famer. All right, so ye're well deserved.

1219
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: That was a great question. But if I see in

1220
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: the cafeteria and putting his hands.

1221
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 3: On you, thank you, Alan.

1222
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: All right, let's go where your office is. So watch

1223
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: what you eat? Shaq?

1224
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 3: Who does he look like?

1225
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: I can't tell you?

1226
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 3: Okay, wait until after the question name and question damn

1227
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 3: jeff uh So, you guys are obviously have talked extensively

1228
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 3: about how you were willing to fight.

1229
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 7: I want to know who you think the most fraudile

1230
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 7: and tough guy.

1231
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: Right now is?

1232
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 3: And then right now I know right now currently and

1233
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 3: then side note some guy that maybe people don't think

1234
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 3: about but you absolutely not want to mess it?

1235
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 2: Well me, people don't think about it. But Danny Fortson

1236
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: y'all went to Cincinnati. He was a problem. That's one

1237
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: of the guys that I probably wouldn't mess with. He

1238
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 2: was just one of those guys that he's just he

1239
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 2: was looking for you know what I mean? I wasn't

1240
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 2: ye what was the other ques? You never did back down?

1241
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 3: He was fraudulent, fraudulent tough guys, dulent tough guys.

1242
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 2: You never know, you know, that's a hard question with

1243
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 2: somebody in the corner. You never know, you know, you

1244
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: don't when you're going out. Don't worry about the guy

1245
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 2: that's tough, worried about the guy that's scared because he's

1246
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: gonna do more damage.

1247
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 3: Who would you?

1248
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 4: Who would you say? Who would you say?

1249
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 3: And beat as a baby? He says, A lot of

1250
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 3: a lot.

1251
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: Of a lot of NBA players don't want to fight,

1252
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 2: so I would say that. So it's a You could

1253
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 2: be naming the people all day because a lot of

1254
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 2: them really don't want to fight. They're scared to lose money.

1255
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: M thank you, nice question and nice tattoo.

1256
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 3: Shaq was a fan of the thigh type tattoo. All right,

1257
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 3: it's time for America's favorite game, White People Ship or

1258
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 3: Black people Ship. I'm gonna just say an ubicuous object

1259
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,439
Speaker 3: and you're just gonna tell me it's White people ship

1260
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 3: or Black people ship? Oh my god, the City of Boston.

1261
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 4: White people Ship.

1262
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 3: Yes, that one was a gimbe, just to show you

1263
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 3: how the game works. Candy Corn White People Ship w

1264
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 3: PS w P s Okay, I do love what's BPS laters?

1265
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 2: Now later.

1266
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 3: Lemonads? What about Harribo gummy bears?

1267
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 2: Now? Yeah, Nolicious, Gummy Bears, Calicious, shackla a p s

1268
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: A PS versatile.

1269
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 3: The comments section of Instagram what yes, BPS. Yeah, there

1270
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 3: are people that are in the comment section that you

1271
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 3: recovers for the Emmys.

1272
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 2: For what I leave a couple. It's entertaining it, it is,

1273
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: I love it.

1274
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 4: I say, that's all people ship.

1275
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 3: Okay, Apple pickings.

1276
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 2: Has been our ship for a long time. We ain't

1277
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 2: gonna go there. We're not gonna go let's pick that

1278
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 2: one off. You start some shitting there, right.

1279
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 3: All I thought about was white people in Finnel. You

1280
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 3: rent right to picking uh sports betting with lines wps

1281
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 3: uh and then the show inside the NBA APS aps aps.

1282
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 3: That's a culture for the culture, Shack. That's what you're

1283
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 3: gonna be doing tonight. Who do you got winning the championship?

1284
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: Shack? Can I defer to my brothers? First?

1285
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 3: Of course, I'm.

1286
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 2: Picking Boston.

1287
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 3: In Boston, picking Boston.

1288
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 2: I'm going with Matt picking Boston as well, And you're.

1289
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 3: Going Boston as well. That means Shack's gonna go somewhere.

1290
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 4: Else's say he's got to go somewhere else West.

1291
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm going Denver.

1292
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 3: He is going Denver. And we are in drafting, so

1293
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 3: I do want to say enver right now plus nine fifty.

1294
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: I would love it for Russ Westbrook.

1295
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 3: The Russ Jokic duo. It'll be really fun story we.

1296
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: Become a real scorer.

1297
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: Now get off the ball.

1298
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 3: We do have one ask doctor O'Neil.

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Speaker 1: We'll go out on go ahead.

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Speaker 3: This is from Raina from Philadelphia, and she writes, I

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00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 3: recently walked in on my sixteen year old son and

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00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 3: his girlfriend doing grown people stuff. I'm a single mom

1303
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 3: and this is my only child. We need to discuss this,

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00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 3: but I don't want to make things more awkward than

1305
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 3: they already are. What is the best way to address

1306
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 3: this issue without making things more weird between us? Thank you?

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00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 3: Raina B from Philadelphia, Great shack. Do you want to

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00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 3: go first or do you want to let your brother's

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00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 3: handle it and then.

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Speaker 2: You fill it?

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Speaker 1: She said? She says she walked in on them doing.

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00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 3: Grown people stuff. Okay, sixteen year old son.

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00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: I think she needs to be more concerned with safety

1314
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: because imagine if it was the other way around and

1315
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: at the father's house, there could have went wrong. The

1316
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: parents still talk about birds and bees as they still

1317
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: called that birds and bees, so she called him doing it.

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00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 1: I guess, listen, he's sixteen, he's gonna still think about

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Speaker 1: to continue to do it. She needs to help him

1320
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: develop ways of making sure you respect the women, making

1321
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: sure you're safe, making sure you're being smart about it.

1322
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: You know, when my kids start getting to that age.

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00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: I seventeen eighteen. I didn't want him to party anywhere else,

1324
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,479
Speaker 1: so we had rules. You can party at the house,

1325
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: but I'll be back at twelve o'clock and everybody better

1326
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,919
Speaker 1: be fucking gone. I said, like, I'll leave at eight,

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00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: and I leave Chef and Uncle Jerome with him. Make

1328
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: sure it don't go crazy. But I know at my

1329
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: house things are going to go crazy. So I think

1330
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: she needs to you know, I know she probably upset.

1331
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: She's a mom, but imagine it was at her, her

1332
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: mom and dad's house, and imagine them Dad would have

1333
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: been crazy and just would have flipped and it could

1334
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: have went wrong. So he's sixteen, have that birds and

1335
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: Bees conversation, but also help develop strategies and make sure

1336
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: he's saved, make sure he's doing the right make sure

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01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: he's doing the adult thing. But I'm just glad that

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01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: the kid was safe.

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Speaker 4: I think it's tough too, because I have fifteen year

1340
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 4: old twin boys. So we had the sex conversation in

1341
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 4: the condom conversation, and I think it's important obviously to

1342
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 4: educate them and everything Shaq said about the respect and

1343
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 4: no means no and all that kind of stuff, But

1344
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 4: you don't want to make it tough because then they'll

1345
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 4: be sneaky and that's the last thing you want as

1346
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 4: a sneaky, sneaky teenager. So but essentially though, because although

1347
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 4: their mom and I are divorced, they didn't feel comfortable

1348
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 4: enough going to their mom to have that conversation. So

1349
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 4: that's why I feel it's very important for dads to

1350
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 4: be able to have that or a male figure in

1351
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 4: the life because these kids are fast these days. And

1352
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 4: I'm sure a lot of you guys out here are

1353
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 4: parents and understand like the more you say no, the

1354
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 4: more they want to do shit, just like every other generation.

1355
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 4: So you know, I'm on the side the preventive side

1356
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 4: of you're gonna have plenty of condoms, make sure you're respectful,

1357
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 4: and make sure you use it. And like Shaq said too,

1358
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 4: it's a safe zone.

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Speaker 2: In my place.

1360
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 3: Came to you to have the conversation.

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01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 4: We've been kind of hitting around it for a while,

1362
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 4: you know, so I made it a joke early on

1363
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 4: the kind of he heat situation too, where I knew

1364
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 4: I was gonna have to readdress the situation when they

1365
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 4: got older. So they were comfortable enough to come and

1366
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 4: tell me. And one of them actually told me like,

1367
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 4: I'm pretty close, Dad, I think I need and I'm

1368
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 4: like and I felt like, although I was just like,

1369
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 4: oh ship, I'm not ready, I felt proud of the

1370
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 4: father that he felt comforting enough to come tell me.

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01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 4: The flip side is not using condoms or being at

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01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 4: the girls house and getting in trouble or so yeah,

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01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 4: I couldn't be a grandpa. Yes, yeah, I just think

1374
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 4: that open that that open line of communication is keying.

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01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 2: Yes whatever, he still doesn't that's whatever. Jack's allergic experience

1376
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: is the best teacher you're gonna learn. How you gonna

1377
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 2: have some kids, or you ain't gonna have some kids,

1378
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 2: don't gay some sdds, you ain't gonna cat some that's

1379
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 2: on you figure it out.

1380
01:01:58,640 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 3: That was fucking perfect.

1381
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: Tell you.

1382
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 3: I just want to say thank you so much the DraftKings.

1383
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 3: You guys have been amazing.

1384
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: You've been so welcome there.

1385
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 3: You appreciate you guys so much. I'm also so thankful.

1386
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 3: It seems like you guys have found a home here

1387
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 3: at DraftKings, and it seems like they're treating you well,

1388
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 3: and gosh, thank you. One thing.

1389
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 4: We're in negotiations right now. We hope we found a

1390
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 4: home here.

1391
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 3: Get it done nice. Thank you so much, giving up

1392
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 3: for all the smoke you guys, Thank you, thank you,

1393
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 3: give it up for Shaquille O'Neal.

1394
01:02:36,120 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 2: Come up, yeah, m you're gonna have some kids or

1395
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 2: you ain't gonna have some kids, Gonna catch some sdds

1396
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 2: or you ain't gonna cat some that's on you.

1397
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: Figure it out.