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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to him Monday edition the Texans All Access from

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Speaker 2: the Honda Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris,

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Speaker 2: football analyst, sideline reporter, fresh off a thirty nine to

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Speaker 2: thirty seven win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and I'm

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Speaker 2: still trying to come to grips with what we saw

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Speaker 2: on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: It was absolutely phenomenal.

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Speaker 4: CJ.

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Speaker 2: Strouds setting rookie records four four hundred and seven yards,

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Speaker 2: passing five touchdowns through five touchdowns to four different guys,

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Speaker 2: and it was Tank Dell with his second touchdown and

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Speaker 2: won the game with ten seconds left. What a ball game,

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Speaker 2: What an afternoon, and what a statement made by many

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Speaker 2: on the offensive side and for the Texans just in general.

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Speaker 2: Dario Goombiwalle kicks a field go I thought about this

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Speaker 2: a little bit after the game. I actually texted this

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Speaker 2: to Mark in your wildest dreams in training camp, if

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Speaker 2: I would have come to you and said, hey, this year,

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Speaker 2: through the first half of the season, Andrew Beck is

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Speaker 2: going to run back a kickoff returning and win against

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Speaker 2: the Jags. And Daria Groombwali's gonna kick a fuel goal

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Speaker 2: and a win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: What would you have said?

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Speaker 3: You have no words for that.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know how you answer that, to be

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Speaker 2: honest with you, So I don't know. I don't even

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Speaker 2: know where you go with that. But that really is

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Speaker 2: what we have had this year. Now, what we have

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Speaker 2: tonight is our man, Andre. Where man we were excited

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Speaker 2: to get to catch up with Dre because that man

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Speaker 2: was excited when his guy tanked out eat him up.

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Speaker 3: Koops made the game winning touchdown on a throw from

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Speaker 3: c J. Strouds. Here we go, Mark me, Andre, let's go.

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Speaker 5: Looks like Tank Dell did a few things and you

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Speaker 5: acknowledged him during a couple of his touchdown catches.

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Speaker 6: Tanen the fan, I'm like, man, make the family. But

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Speaker 6: no I thought I thought he. I thought he played

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Speaker 6: his best game, all around game, where when you not

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Speaker 6: from just a receiving standpoint.

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Speaker 4: But we talked about the unset his plays.

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Speaker 6: We talked about, you know, just doing the little the

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Speaker 6: extra stuff that doesn't go on a status sheet that

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Speaker 6: make plays work, like the Noah Brown touchdown reception.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was that throw on Noah Brown to Noah

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Speaker 2: Brown tre when and I told Mark this a little

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Speaker 2: while ago. That was the throw and I felt like

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Speaker 2: we're gonna be okay, and that CJ was gonna be

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Speaker 2: okay because that throw crossing route, that's got some that's

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Speaker 2: got some distance to it, and he threw it to

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Speaker 2: a point where Noah didn't have to break stride and

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Speaker 2: I thought, Okay, that's.

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Speaker 1: The CJ we've been seeing.

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Speaker 2: And then Tank makes the block, Noah hits the boosters,

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Speaker 2: he pie faces Davis. That was the throw when I

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Speaker 2: felt like it kind of shook off whatever CJ had

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Speaker 2: going on or whatever.

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Speaker 1: When is that the throw for you where you.

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Speaker 2: Kind of felt like, Okay, he's back in it, or

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Speaker 2: was there some other point in the game where you

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Speaker 2: felt like he sort of shook everything off and kind

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Speaker 2: of got back to what we know him to be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that that was the throw that kind

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Speaker 4: of got him going. You know, he he you know,

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Speaker 6: He spoiled us because we expect so much now, you

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Speaker 6: know when we watch CJ play and we still have

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Speaker 6: to kind of think in terms of he's still just

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Speaker 6: a rookie going through about halfway through the season, and

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Speaker 6: there's more He's gonna grow a whole lot more. We're

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Speaker 6: gonna see another big leap here in about two or

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Speaker 6: three games. And you know what, I what I enjoy

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Speaker 6: about CJ is the fact that he DoD turn it over.

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Speaker 4: And when you when you.

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Speaker 6: Can play that way or the way he's playing as

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Speaker 6: a young player and not turn the ball over, then

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Speaker 6: you know you have something special. And I honestly and

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Speaker 6: truly think that's the case.

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Speaker 5: Well, having said that and having seen the production, are

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Speaker 5: we seeing what they need to be right now? Not

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Speaker 5: that they have to abandon the run completely, but running

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Speaker 5: the football has been so difficult they've got to think about, Hey,

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Speaker 5: the best player is handling the ball on pass plays.

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Speaker 5: I know he's handing the ball off as well occasionally,

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Speaker 5: but do you turn the ball over to Stroud and

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Speaker 5: let the passing game drive this team's offense more than

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Speaker 5: the running game.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think they're gonna learn yesterday or from yesterday's

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Speaker 6: game when they turned the film on, or they have

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Speaker 6: thought that this is a pass first, run second offense.

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Speaker 6: And it's okay to be that way unless you're just

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Speaker 6: going to be stubborn and try to do the other things,

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Speaker 6: and I think, yeah, you can win that way, but

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Speaker 6: you're gonna spin your wheels a whole lot and the

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Speaker 6: with in terms of production, it's just not gonna be

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Speaker 6: what it is unless you attempted or approach it the

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Speaker 6: way you're proached it yesterday with the offensive line, I

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Speaker 6: think now when they go back and they watch the

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Speaker 6: film and they see that, man, we can protect because

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Speaker 6: they did one heck of a job yesterday.

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Speaker 4: And that's the group that.

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Speaker 6: Has flown kind of under the radar of yesterday's big win,

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Speaker 6: as did the job the offensive line did.

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Speaker 4: He was back there.

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Speaker 6: I mean one player I know close to ten seconds

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Speaker 6: just patting the football and nobody's touched it. So when

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Speaker 6: you see that, I think you grow some confidence in

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Speaker 6: the fact that you can be a pass first run,

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Speaker 6: second offense.

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Speaker 2: Shreid Williams, He's covered the This is her tweet from yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I've covered the league for thirty seasons and this might

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Speaker 2: be the greatest performance I've ever seen by a player,

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Speaker 2: any player, much less a rookie.

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Speaker 1: CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud was incredible in the second half, and I think

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Speaker 2: Sean dropped the number. Drey and I want you to

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Speaker 2: expand on this on first down, on first down, which

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Speaker 2: what did we talk about all last week? Well, you

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Speaker 2: know what, they're running the ball on first down and

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Speaker 2: you know, trying to hammer a square pegging a round

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Speaker 2: whole sort of thing on first down. CJ had a

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Speaker 2: perfect passer rating on first down?

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Speaker 1: A perfect? Is that a passer rating on first down?

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Speaker 2: And it felt like dre yesterday where there was a

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Speaker 2: point where the Texas coaching staff just said, you know what,

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Speaker 2: bleep it like, he seven's our guy.

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Speaker 1: Let's just go with him.

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Speaker 2: And then they didn't try and run the ball and

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Speaker 2: keep hammering it with the run because it wasn't it

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Speaker 2: just wasn't gonna be there that they were gonna rely

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Speaker 1: And like you said, maybe that's the way they are.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe they're gonna throw themselves into a running game

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Speaker 2: at some point, But do you think that's what it's

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Speaker 2: gonna be for the rest of the year, that Hey,

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Speaker 2: this is what we are. We are a throwing team.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna throw thirty five to forty times a game

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Speaker 2: from hearing out because that's our guy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna answer your question. I promise you I'll

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Speaker 6: answer it.

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Speaker 4: Well, I have one from Mark real quick.

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Speaker 6: Mark, if if this version, this year's version of the

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Speaker 6: Texans turned into the eighty four Dolphins, eighty four eighty

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Speaker 6: five Dolphins with duper and you know, because it kind

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Speaker 6: of resembles that that group, that that team in terms

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Speaker 4: But I don't know if they.

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Speaker 6: Had a Nico Collins on that team. But anyway, my point,

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Speaker 6: my question is would you take it? Would you take

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Speaker 6: having to watch that style of offense every Sunday, that

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Speaker 6: type of production every Sunday?

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Speaker 4: Would it? Would you take it?

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Speaker 5: I mean that Dolphins team was one of the most

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Speaker 5: prolific in history. So yeah, I'll suffer through that. I'll

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Speaker 5: suffer through what are the great passing games I've ever seen?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Sure, point, That is my point.

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Speaker 6: That's why I asked such a dramatic question, is because.

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Speaker 4: You would take it in a heartbeat being a pass

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Speaker 4: first offense. And they were very much a pass first offense.

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Speaker 4: And that's okay.

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Speaker 6: Unless you just want to be the other way and

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Speaker 6: we're just gonna, you know, this provide because everybody thinks, oh,

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Speaker 6: if we pass at first, we got to be this

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Speaker 6: finesse soft offense. Go ask the defense if they you know,

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Speaker 6: if it's you know, when they're running arounte chasing you

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Speaker 6: all game long, and and it's like, man, this is

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Speaker 6: the they'll come back and tell you it's the rough.

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Speaker 4: Especially the DB's and linebackers.

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Speaker 6: This toughest game they played because it because of all

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Speaker 6: the movement and you know, running around and having to cover.

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Speaker 4: That's tough. That's that makes that makes the game hard

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Speaker 4: to play.

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Speaker 5: All right, So what about the talent at receiver here,

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Speaker 5: dre Because I was mentioning it earlier that this is

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Speaker 5: an ensemble. You never know who's gonna be the top

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Speaker 5: and Nico Collins has three catches for fifty four yards.

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Speaker 5: He's productive with a touchdown, but the rest of the

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Speaker 8: In fact, it's.

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Speaker 5: Only the fourth time in the history the league where

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Speaker 5: you have three receivers going over five catches one hundred

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Speaker 5: yards and each guy getting a score. So that's a

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Speaker 5: little bit of a parlay stat but that's pretty amazing stuff. Anyway,

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Speaker 5: are you okay with any guy could be the guy

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Speaker 5: on any particular week? Not that they'll never add talent

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Speaker 5: to this. We have an off season ahead of us

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Speaker 5: and all of that. But as far as this year

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Speaker 5: goes and maybe moving forward, who knows.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, I'm totally fine with it, and I think it'll

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Speaker 6: last for a while because there's no quote unquote superstar

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Speaker 6: in this group.

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Speaker 4: They don't care who gets the credit. What do they

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Speaker 4: say that. You know, if you're young, if you're young,

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Speaker 4: you don't know any better.

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Speaker 6: So they don't know any better right now. It's a

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Speaker 6: young group mixed with Robert Woods. You throw a veteran

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Speaker 6: in that group and they just don't know any better.

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Speaker 6: So they think the way to play the game is

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Speaker 6: the way they're playing it, which is absolutely the right

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Speaker 6: way to play it until and usually you'll see some

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Speaker 6: receiver emerge and now he's got to be you know,

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Speaker 6: I gotta get my ten to fifteen you know, targets

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Speaker 6: and whatever else that's just not in this group. And

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Speaker 6: so as long as they can keep that, I think

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Speaker 6: I think they're gonna be okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too.

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Speaker 2: Trade defensively, yesterday it wasn't the prettiest thing in the world,

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Speaker 2: I don't think, but special teams wise, let's get to

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Speaker 2: this one. We talked about this during the game. We're

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Speaker 2: talking about the defense latter because usually we do that,

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Speaker 2: we talk offense, we talk defense kind of give you know,

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Speaker 2: flowers to whatever unit was better than the other, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: But I wan't to talk about Daria Goomblewle because this

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Speaker 2: is something that that the three of us talked about

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Speaker 2: during the game. And how with with Kayemi fairbearon out

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Speaker 2: how the strategy ends up changing. I'll say this, I've

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Speaker 2: had I had a situation one time where I lost

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Speaker 4: To see with the Steelers and the Browns, and.

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Speaker 6: You know they're they're they're going to be a that's

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Speaker 4: But you know, there's no one's gonna feel sorry for you.

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Speaker 4: They got their own problems, So mend.

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Speaker 6: Up, figure out how to you know, patch it up,

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Speaker 6: And you know he's an arrow space engineer for a reason.

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Speaker 6: about That had my attention because kids don't think that

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Speaker 4: The University of Tennessee.

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Speaker 6: So what he did yesterday might surprise the whole lot

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Speaker 4: Because it's Josh Dobbs.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I thought it was incredible.

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Speaker 5: And all the morning shows nationally are of course talking

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Speaker 8: And how incredible that was.

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Speaker 5: We had an incredible performance here, but man going on

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Speaker 5: all right. I'm not impressed with the Cardinals. They traded

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Speaker 5: to start Clayton tune because I guess Murray's not ready.

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Speaker 5: It's a bizarre situation. Murray's practicing. Murray was listed as questionable.

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Speaker 8: With the knee injury tray.

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Speaker 5: But it's just bizarro world in Phoenix right now with

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Speaker 4: That's you can't. I wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: I can't blame him.

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Speaker 6: And Clayton's got to start his career in that type

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Speaker 4: It's all messed up.

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Speaker 1: Dre Because you just mentioned Clinton.

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Speaker 1: Strikes at your heart.

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Speaker 2: How about the win over Baylor to get them within

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Speaker 6: It's all I ever asked for, and I think realistically,

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Speaker 6: those were my expectations were to get to a bowl

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Speaker 4: Seven and five, six and six, Just get there and.

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Speaker 6: You know, we'll, uh well, we'll figure it out as

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Speaker 6: But that's all anyone could ask is is uh, get

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Speaker 5: What kind of shot to give Penn State against Michigan

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Speaker 8: So what do you think they are?

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Speaker 6: Good Man, Penn State's the biggest phony in college football.

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Speaker 6: In college football, man home, you can put them at

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Speaker 6: I don't want to go there. But yeah, every time

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Speaker 6: they're Penn State and we're a factor this year, we're

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Speaker 6: call it. They always disappoint. So no, they're not going

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Speaker 1: Best team in the country right now, who is it?

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Speaker 6: Give me the field because Florida State's in the field,

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Speaker 6: That's that's an easy one. There are a couple of

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Speaker 6: teams I think out there they.

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Speaker 4: Can beat Michigan.

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Speaker 6: What about Washington, I mean, they've still got to get

448
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Speaker 6: by Ohio State now here in a couple of weeks

449
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Speaker 6: or a week or so. Washington, I love, I just

450
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Speaker 6: don't know if they got enough defense to win it all,

451
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Speaker 6: because they're gonna get in a scrap here at some

452
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Speaker 6: point and before the season ends. And I think they've

453
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Speaker 6: got two games one I know we left of Washington State,

454
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Speaker 6: but Utah that's the one that's gonna be a physical,

455
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Speaker 6: physical test and that will tell everyone whether Washington can

456
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Speaker 6: win it all or not, because Utah they're gonna get

457
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Speaker 6: all they they can stand from Utah in a physical,

458
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Speaker 6: physical football game.

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Speaker 2: The way the season is working out in college football,

460
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Speaker 2: it's almost backloaded. Every big game is happening over the

461
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Speaker 2: last three or four weeks of the year.

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Speaker 1: Like I mean, everything really can start wee weeks ago.

463
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Speaker 4: Really week it was great, it was great.

464
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been backloaded.

465
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Speaker 2: And now you're gonna see like Washington, Utah, you'll get Michigan,

466
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Speaker 2: Ohio State. Uh, it's I mean Georgia, Old Miss, Hey

467
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Speaker 2: ain't in lost Old miss.

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Speaker 5: That was not a shocker though, and Kansas State unable

469
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Speaker 5: to beat Texas.

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Speaker 8: But what are you doing?

471
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Speaker 5: Kick the field goal, continue to play anyway. Good for

472
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Speaker 5: the Longhorns to get the win, Dre, What do you

473
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Speaker 5: have this weekend?

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Speaker 6: I'm going up to SMU SMU North Texas and uh

475
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Speaker 6: watch the Ponies again this week. I had them a

476
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Speaker 6: few weeks to go against Memphis and the game there

477
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Speaker 6: and enjoyed them there and that one. So I get

478
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Speaker 6: to see them again and they get make my way

479
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Speaker 6: back to or make my way to Cincinnati and watch

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Speaker 6: the Texans beat up on the Bengals this weekend.

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Speaker 5: Excellent. Thank you Drey for joining us, and I like

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Speaker 5: the way you ended that.

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Speaker 4: All right, guys, let's talk later.

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Speaker 2: SMU is a really good football team right now. Htt

485
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Speaker 2: Lashley's got it going on, that's for sure. And SMU

486
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Speaker 2: is making noise in there last year in the American

487
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Speaker 2: Athletic Conference before they go to the Atlantic Coast Conference.

488
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Speaker 2: You got all that from AAC to ACC man college

489
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Speaker 2: football is crazy crazy right now. Who is not is

490
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Speaker 2: Indy Kalu. He is absolutely sane and he is awesome

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Speaker 2: to talk to. We'll talk to nd next right here

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Speaker 2: on Texans All Access. Yes, Sarah, welcome back to this

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Speaker 2: edition of Texans All Access from the Today Texans Radio studio.

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Speaker 2: I am your host, John Harris Football and a sideline reporter,

495
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Speaker 2: and we are fresh off of win over the Tampa

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Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers. We caught up with Andre where and now

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Speaker 2: it's time to catch up with our good friend Indy Kalu,

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Speaker 2: who I will do extra points with.

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Speaker 1: You definitely want to listen to Texans OG podcast.

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Speaker 2: And also the Player Show, which will be tomorrow. I'm

501
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: not sure who the player is, but it will be

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Speaker 2: Deep's last one with n d Klue, but it's definitely

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Speaker 2: not Indy's last one with me and Mark. We chatted

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Speaker 2: with him about this game against Tampa Bay and everything

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Speaker 2: that he was able to see some fun stuff here

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Speaker 2: with Indy Kalu.

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Speaker 5: All right, your heart must have been racing as well

508
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Speaker 5: your general reaction to what you saw yesterday with the

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Speaker 5: Houston Texans pulling it out against tim the Bank.

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Speaker 9: You know what, I hate to admit it, but after

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Speaker 9: Baker Mayfield led Tampa to their last touchdown, I remember

512
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Speaker 9: looking to my son and saying, well, you know what,

513
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Speaker 9: their season still better than it was last year like,

514
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Speaker 9: I just really just thought that game was over.

515
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Speaker 4: And to see CJ.

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Speaker 9: Stroud look like filling the blank of some of the

517
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Speaker 9: greatest come from behind quarterbacks you know who played this

518
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 9: game just so poised, cool, calm and collective. Man, it

519
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 9: was just fun to watch and just entertaining. Look, I

520
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 9: know if you're Tampa, it wasn't entertaining. But if you're

521
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Speaker 9: just a fan of football, if you're just a fan

522
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Speaker 9: of four quarters being played until you see the three zeros,

523
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Speaker 9: you had to enjoy what you saw last night or

524
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Speaker 9: yesterday in the afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Andy, the part about Darya Gumbwally kind of a bigger

526
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Speaker 2: picture here the number of injuries that happened yesterday.

527
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Speaker 1: You lose two safeties.

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Speaker 2: I think Ridgeway went out with an ankle issue at

529
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Speaker 2: some point. I mean, I think six guys six six,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh no, you know why I'm counting

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Speaker 2: six because Jake Hanson was given to me as questionable,

532
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Speaker 2: but he went back in with a hand issue. My

533
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Speaker 2: point in that Indy is in the NFL, you got

534
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Speaker 2: a forty I think it ends up being a forty

535
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Speaker 2: nine game player roster because you have the third quarterback

536
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Speaker 2: who's technically inactive, but if he has to be, he

537
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: can come in.

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Speaker 1: If you play lineman, you can get up to forty eight.

539
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Speaker 2: So that's not a big roster all things considered, but

540
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Speaker 2: at times guys have to step into roles they're not

541
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Speaker 2: accustomed to. Hey, as a player, did you ever have

542
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Speaker 2: a situation like that? And b what does it say

543
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Speaker 2: about the Texans that they were able to kind of

544
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Speaker 2: fight their way through and get to the finish line

545
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Speaker 2: and get a win.

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Speaker 9: You know, we always hear next man of but they

547
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Speaker 9: truly lived it and you could tell they believe it.

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Speaker 9: They talk about it, they focus on it during the week. John,

549
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Speaker 9: for you know, we'll get to what dare Goole did

550
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Speaker 9: and shout out to all the Nigerian Americans out there

551
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Speaker 9: who made their kids play soccer when they were young,

552
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Speaker 9: because that's part of the reason why he was able to

553
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Speaker 9: make that kick. But you know what really hit me, John,

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Speaker 9: was when you have a Stephen Nelson go down, Not

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Speaker 9: Stephen Nelson, I'm sorry, Jimmy Ward go down, and then

556
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 9: m J. Stewart comes in and he goes down the

557
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 9: very next play, and then somebody else has to come

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Speaker 9: in and step up. So no They truly believe in

559
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 9: next man up and anybody who's getting dressed, they're going

560
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Speaker 9: to contribute. But what Daray was able to do it

561
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Speaker 9: It's not easy to kick a field goal in the NFL,

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Speaker 9: and not just the fact that you have to kick

563
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Speaker 9: the field goal, but you have some elite guys rushing

564
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Speaker 9: trying to block that kick. So for him to make

565
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 9: that twenty nine yard field goal, that was huge.

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Speaker 5: So I have a theory that when there's adversity, when

567
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Speaker 5: people have to fill in at certain spots we saw

568
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Speaker 5: earlier in the season with injuries to Ward and to

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Speaker 5: Petrie and the offensive line situation early yesterday at Michael

570
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Speaker 5: Dieter starting, et ceter.

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Speaker 8: Then you have Dara. Everybody can see it's plain a day.

572
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Speaker 5: It's one of those really obvious things that somebody's filling

573
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Speaker 5: in for your placekicker. What does that do to the

574
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Speaker 5: team and d because I have a feeling in the

575
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Speaker 5: second half that really made them respond and up their

576
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 5: game a notch or several.

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Speaker 9: Believe it or not. Mark, and you've been around football,

578
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 9: you know long enough to know a lot of players.

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Speaker 9: They appreciate that challenge. You know, what are kickers down? Okay, well,

580
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 9: you know, we're just gonna have to go for two,

581
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Speaker 9: or we're gonna have to make sure we convert these

582
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 9: third and longs or fourth down, so we continue to

583
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Speaker 9: keep the drive going. They appreciate that there's a boost

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Speaker 9: of adrenaline. And then whoever that emergency kicker is, he's

585
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 9: excited about that opportunity to show the world, like, hey,

586
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 9: look what I'm able to do, So they don't get down.

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Speaker 4: A lot of the players are not gonna sit there

588
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 4: and be like, what was me?

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Speaker 9: Are kickers down? What are we gonna do? The guys

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00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 9: are like, oh, you know, let me show what I

591
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 9: can do. So I really feel like a good team,

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Speaker 9: a good locker room, a good organization. When you have

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Speaker 9: that adversity, then a guy's just really looking forward to

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Speaker 9: step up. Keep in mind, these are the best of

595
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Speaker 9: the best. Your third string safety, your fourth string safety

596
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 9: thinks that they should be a starter in the NFL.

597
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Speaker 9: So all these are opportunities for them to show what

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00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 9: they can do.

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00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: And D I don't know anyway to ask this question

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00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: other than to just leave it open ended and just say, CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud go.

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Speaker 9: The best rookie performance at that position I've seen and

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Speaker 9: I want to say since Cam Newton, but I might

604
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 9: have to just leave it at what I said, best

605
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Speaker 9: rookie performance at that position that I've seen.

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00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 9: I know some of the older heads will say, hey, well,

608
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 9: back in nineteen twenty, so and so did this. But

609
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 9: what c J. Stroud is doing and not just the numbers,

610
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 9: you know, not just the four hundred and seventy four

611
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Speaker 9: hundred and seventy yards in this game, five touchdowns to

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Speaker 9: zero interceptions, but the entire season, he just looks like

613
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Speaker 9: he's arrived. When we talk about young quarterbacks, you still say, hey,

614
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Speaker 9: he's showing flashes of what he's going to be as

615
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 9: he gets older, as he gets more mature. But I

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Speaker 9: mean c J.

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Speaker 4: Stroud.

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Speaker 9: We like to joke when we see young guys who

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Speaker 9: are mature and say he's been here before. You just

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Speaker 9: feel like he's been here before, and you don't have

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Speaker 9: to wait two or three years to say you've got

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Speaker 9: your guy at that position now. To me, it's fun.

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Speaker 9: It's fun what Nicko Sario and the Miko Ryans get

624
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Speaker 9: to do during the offseason. Now you're building around a

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Speaker 9: guy that you know is going to be the face

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Speaker 9: of the franchise for years to come.

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Speaker 5: I was asked who's the number one receiver for the Texans,

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Speaker 5: and without even looking at the numbers, I think it's

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Speaker 5: a band.

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Speaker 8: I think it's the Eagles. It's Fleetwood Mac.

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Speaker 5: Is anybody can sing lead on any particular day at

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Speaker 5: Tank Dell yesterday, Dalton Schultz had more catches than anybody,

633
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Speaker 5: and he's a tight end receiver. Obviously, Noah Brown shows

634
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 5: up in a huge way with six for one point

635
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Speaker 5: fifty three, tops everybody in yardage because of the seventy

636
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Speaker 5: five yarder mostly, but your thoughts on that because it

637
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Speaker 5: doesn't feel like there's a number one guy.

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Speaker 8: But that's okay? Is it okay?

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Speaker 9: Really?

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Speaker 4: Mark, you're gonna say it's the Eagles Fleetwood Mac?

641
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Speaker 8: All right?

642
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Speaker 5: You know, yes, yes, yes, it's exactly by the players.

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Speaker 5: You don't think they're gonna bite there the who the

644
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 5: Whatwood Mac?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go in the locker room as all fifty

646
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: three players plus they'll no dreams because of the TikTok video.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

648
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe somebode something at some point, but yeah, it

649
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: is wu Tank here.

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Speaker 8: Anybody could be the lead singer. It's a good one,

651
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 8: all right, anyway.

652
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Speaker 9: Go on, Well, here's the thing, and it's funny I

653
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 9: said this, or I was thinking this before the season started.

654
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Speaker 9: This was gonna be the type of receiving corps, including

655
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Speaker 9: the tight end, where one game you're gonna have a

656
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Speaker 9: guy that you know, a Dalton Schultzero's probably not excited

657
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 9: about his targets, but then there's gonna be that game

658
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 9: where he has over one hundred yards receiving. You're gonna

659
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 9: have a game where Tank Dell only has forty thirty

660
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Speaker 9: yards receiving, but then he's gonna have that big game

661
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Speaker 9: and you're not surprised. Noah Brown late in the preseason

662
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 9: he started to show up, at least for me. Y'all

663
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 9: maybe noticed him earlier on, but I thought Noel Brown's

664
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 9: gonna be a guy that hey, when he has a

665
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 9: big you're not going to be overly surprised. I still

666
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 9: think Nico Collins should be that number one target, that mainstay.

667
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 9: But you're absolutely right, any given Sunday, whether it's John Metchi,

668
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 9: Tank Dell, Dalton Schultz, Noah Brown, Robert Woods when he

669
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 9: gets back, you have any of these guys lead your teams.

670
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: And I'm asking a weird question.

671
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: But having been in the locker room, when you can

672
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: look across at your quarterback and just know, like, we

673
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: got a chance because that guy gives us a chance.

674
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: I'll say this, this is one thing I realized yesterday.

675
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: You listen to everybody talk about CJ. Stroud, and you

676
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: listen to players and they have absolute, no doubt.

677
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: Belief in him. But when you listen to him, you.

678
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: Realize he's got absolute total belief in everybody around him

679
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: and love and respect for all of them and what

680
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: they're doing.

681
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: That a thing is the difference.

682
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: I think we've seen quarterbacks here that people believe in,

683
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: but I don't know if they believed in the rest

684
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: of the team believes in the rest of it what's

685
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: around him, which I find fascinating.

686
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: But andy along those lines, when you.

687
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: As a player can look at your quarterback and go,

688
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a chance because of that guy, what

689
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: does that change in the team dynamic?

690
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: What does it change in the defense?

691
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: And did you ever have a situation like that where

692
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: you looked across and said, that guy.

693
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: Gives us a chance.

694
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: So I know, I got to do my job at

695
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: a high level. But even if something happens this guy

696
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: can still bail me out if I make a mistake.

697
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: Or don't do something right.

698
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 9: You know, that is such a great question and great

699
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 9: discussion that there have been times where you know you

700
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 9: have a quarterback and you say to yourself as a

701
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 9: defensive player, hey, if we do this, if we hold

702
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 9: them under ten points and you know, get some turnovers,

703
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 9: then we can win the game. Then you have those

704
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 9: quarterbacks where you're like, you know what, that guy's under centered.

705
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 9: I can go out there and play a little more aggransive.

706
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 9: I could go out there and take chances because if

707
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 9: I screw it up, I know Donovan McNabb can score

708
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 9: it from anywhere. If I screw it up, I know

709
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 9: Brad Johnson is the type of quarterback that could just

710
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 9: take us down and lead a drive to kind of

711
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 9: get the defense out of a hole. It really resonates

712
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 9: on the defensive side of the ball. The thought is, ah,

713
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 9: we're all pros, take care of your business, but you

714
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 9: nailed it. When when you have a certain guy under quarterback,

715
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 9: it just resonates with the entire team. The entire team

716
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 9: it is a little more excited about going to do

717
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 9: their job because they know when you have that type

718
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 9: of guy in the most important position in sports, you

719
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 9: always have a chance to win, and it's a different feeling.

720
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 9: And this is not a shot against David Carr, but

721
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 9: I'll never forget when Matt Shabb came to the Texans

722
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 9: and on the defense, we had a pretty good three

723
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 9: and out and Matt shob led the team down for

724
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 9: it was one of his first drives where he was

725
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 9: just a successful drive where he led the team down.

726
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 9: We scored, and we were looked at me and said, man,

727
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 9: we finally got a quarterback, so let's go do our thing.

728
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 9: Of course, we gave up a touchdown right after that,

729
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 9: but my point is it was just exciting to go

730
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 9: see Matt shob go do his work in you know,

731
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 9: really look like that pro. So you're absolutely right when

732
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,959
Speaker 9: you have that guy at that position. Did the entire team,

733
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 9: the entire organization seales it.

734
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 5: You wanted to see a shootout, That's all. That's all

735
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 5: that happened that day. And speaking of shootouts, I don't

736
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 5: know what you guys expected, but everybody asks what do

737
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 5: you think this weekend heading into yesterday's game, and I thought,

738
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 5: you know, close game, It's gonna be a coin flip

739
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 5: fourth quarter, who makes the plays kind of game, and

740
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 5: it was, but I never expected something in the high thirties.

741
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 5: These two defenses were tied for sixth in the NFL

742
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 5: in points allowed. I figured, you know, high teens, low

743
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 5: twenties kind of thing. But it turns into a monster

744
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 5: shootout game. And the Bucks don't rack up that much

745
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 5: yardage end, But they scored some points yesterday and it

746
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 5: wasn't like a turnover fest for the Texans. They had

747
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 5: the one early fumble, but they held it to a

748
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 5: three pointer. The defense did. What about what the defense

749
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 5: had to go through yesterday? Do those just suddenly pop

750
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 5: up out of nowhere like yesterday a shootout.

751
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 9: And you talked about Papa about it. No, No, I

752
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 9: mean the shootout really didn't get started into the second half.

753
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: I mean, going into halftime.

754
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 9: The Texans only scored one touchdown in the field though,

755
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 9: so the second half was an entirely different game. And

756
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 9: that's when it happened. And that's one of the great

757
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 9: things about the NFL. And with all the analytics, with

758
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 9: all the numbers, all the rankings, we like to say, oh,

759
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 9: this is the type of game it's gonna be, and

760
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 9: then the NFL says, hold my beer, let me show

761
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 9: you that. You know, you can't just look at the

762
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 9: numpert and expect to understand what's going to happen. And

763
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 9: to me, that's just one of the great things about

764
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 9: the NFL, about this sport, American football, that you really

765
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 9: can't predict what's gonna happen because it's such a sport

766
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 9: that's based on Yes, there's a lot of skill set involved,

767
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 9: there's a lot of athleticism, but emotion also, just emotion

768
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 9: really controls what happens with these games.

769
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to ask both of you guys this,

770
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: So Mark, I'm gonna give you a second to think

771
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 2: about this. But I thought about this watching Vida Vea

772
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 2: yesterday and the guy is a.

773
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: Moving vending machine.

774
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it's unbelievable, but it got me thinking, Andy,

775
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: who's the biggest big boned athlete you've ever seen?

776
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to call anybody.

777
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: For it, So who's the biggest bone, most athletic, big

778
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: boned athlete you ever were around?

779
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: In the NFL?

780
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 9: You know what, as soon as you ask that question,

781
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 9: you're because you're such a good person. You're basically asked me,

782
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 9: who's the fat ass that can move?

783
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: And right, right, right, who's the best fat guy?

784
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 9: All right? Yeah, there's two guys that really blew my mind.

785
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 9: One was Hollis Thomas because he was short and squatty,

786
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 9: so he played nose guard for the Eagles.

787
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

788
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 9: I don't know what the you know, I know this

789
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 9: guy is a good friend of mine. I don't know

790
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 9: what the what the measurables and the book says about him.

791
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 9: But he's maybe six feet on a good day and

792
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 9: all of three hundred and fifty pounds. And when I

793
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 9: say that, he can run with the best of them.

794
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 9: He would make plays from sideline to sideline. It was

795
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 9: amazing to see. And then on the other side of

796
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 9: the ball, Hank Frayley, who's the offensive line code. Yeah,

797
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 9: Detroit Lions, now, yeh. His nickname was Honeybun because he

798
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 9: ate honey buns and he was shaped like a honey bun.

799
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 9: And I'll never forget. We're doing summer workouts and we're

800
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 9: running sprints and I was considered one of the faster defensive.

801
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 4: Linemen because I was also one of the lighter ones

802
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 4: as far as weight.

803
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 9: And he always challenged himself to run with the D

804
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 9: line and I'll never forget he was literally just like

805
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 9: three steps behind me running one sprints and he was

806
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 9: all of three hundred and thirty pounds with the worst

807
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 9: looking body you'll ever see. But there's just some guys

808
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 9: in the NFL that they're just special to be able

809
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 9: to move the weight that they have. And those are

810
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 9: two guys. As soon as you asked that question, you know,

811
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 9: the fat boys that could really move Hank Fraley aka

812
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 9: Honeybun and Hollis Thomas Vitevea.

813
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 5: Yesterday, I'm I called a game from you know where.

814
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 5: I call the game from the highest point in the stadium, right,

815
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 5: and it's a good seat between the thirties. On the binoculars,

816
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 5: I'm looking at Vita Vea and it almost looks like

817
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 5: photoshop in my binoculars. He looks so much bigger than

818
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 5: everybody else.

819
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was right.

820
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 5: It looks like he's just towering over everybody like he's

821
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 5: a grown man running around with kids.

822
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 8: He's huge.

823
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you.

824
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 2: I told you this after the game, And do you

825
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 2: appreciate this? So when team's going, you know, they do

826
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: pregame and they always finish with extra point or a

827
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 2: fuel goal. Some teams end up doing a punt. They

828
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: punt the ball, then they receive it, and then they

829
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: all get around the circle and they say the pump

830
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: up speech and they go in the locker room for

831
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: the game. Right, So the punt team comes out for

832
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: the Buccaneers, Vita Vea lines up like he's the gunner blocker,

833
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: like he's the gunner defender, and I'm telling you, he

834
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 2: literally runs with the gunner inside for about fifteen yards

835
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: step per step, all.

836
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 8: Right, So he's I'm like, he's got some juice.

837
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: What he played running back in high school speed?

838
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 8: Oh, they should put him in there.

839
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if y'all saw it.

840
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 9: There was one playing doesn't even show up on the

841
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 9: stat sheet where he just bull rushed the center and

842
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 9: just dumped him right in front of the quarterback. And

843
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 9: I was like, I don't if you're the offensive line

844
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 9: coach for the Texans, you know, I don't even know

845
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 9: how to coach up the guy on that. Like, if

846
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 9: you're the offensive line coach, you tell the center, hey

847
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 9: my bad. It's like I'm sorry.

848
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, keep breathing, keep kicking.

849
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: It's like our man John McClain getting stronger every day.

850
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: The General joins us.

851
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: Next the Texans All Access We go one final segment

852
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: this Monday edition of Texans All Access before we turned

853
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 2: out to Monday Night football, Jets Chargers in MetLife, Jets

854
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: Chargers at MetLife.

855
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers walk into the.

856
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: Building, which is apparently big news, but Chargers taking on

857
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: the Jets and Met Life three to four. Chargers are

858
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 2: three point favorites against the Jets. Before we do, we

859
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: gotta talk to our man, the General, John McClain. Here's Mark,

860
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: Me and John.

861
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 5: No doubt about it. He didn't joint it off the

862
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 5: upright or anything. He drilled that sucker inside the left

863
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 5: up right.

864
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. This hit me yesterday.

865
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 2: It hit me mostly when tank, the first tank touchdown

866
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: on that the crowd erupted. Yeah, I mean it was

867
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: like it was a point where and I know that,

868
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: but I just I just looked around and just went, yeah,

869
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: back to the future type stuff.

870
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: Man, this is cool. I just literally, Mark, I'm that one.

871
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: I just took it in and was like, it's louding, Well, you.

872
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 8: Know what's going on here.

873
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 5: It's not just you know your form four right, you're

874
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 5: you're where you were, right. But there's genuine love for

875
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 5: Damico Ryans and for these guys Tank and CJ and

876
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 5: you know, I'm not going to name everybody, but there's

877
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 5: a genuine there, so likable and so even when they

878
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 5: lose last week to Carolina, it's like, all right, you

879
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 5: lost and that sucks, but you know, you come back

880
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 5: and you do what you did yesterday, given people memories

881
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 5: that are going to live forever.

882
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: That environment was incredible and Mark when they scored, I

883
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: looked up in the stands and I saw some people leaving,

884
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 2: and I was like.

885
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: Man, I don't know if that's the right thing, y'all.

886
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: If I were a fan, I just want to see

887
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: what he's gonna do exactly.

888
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 8: And we saw what he's gonna do, and he did it.

889
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 5: So General John McClain joins us, Now, you've seen a

890
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 5: lot of games. I'm not going to ask you where

891
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 5: that one stacks up, but that had to be as

892
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 5: entertaining as just about anything you've seen in a regular

893
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 5: season context.

894
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 10: As I wrote in my lead in Maclamo Sports Radio

895
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 10: six ten dot COM's Garlib the greatest games and not

896
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 10: just Texans history, but Houston pro football history. It goes

897
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 10: back to nineteen sixty and the reason is, yeah, rookie

898
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 10: quarterback coming off a terrible game. You had. You had

899
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 10: six players, four on defense, one offense, one special teams

900
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 10: leaving and not coming back. It seemed like every five minutes.

901
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 10: So it was an announcement in the press box. And

902
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 10: then you have a kicker who's never kicked, and defense

903
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 10: couldn't stop anybody in your running games off. So what

904
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 10: happens Strout takes them the distance on the last series,

905
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 10: I thought it was over. I can't imagine anybody would

906
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 10: think with forty six seconds left, and then on the

907
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 10: twenty five they had a chance to win the game.

908
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 10: No kicker, of course, that is just it blew me away,

909
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 10: you know, it really blows me away. He's on a

910
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 10: pace throw for four twenty four yards, thirty two touchdowns,

911
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 10: two point one interceptions and a one TOHO three rating,

912
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 10: which is just amazing. Now, of course, you look what

913
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 10: happened last week, and they have consistency. This is a

914
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 10: great barometer coming up at Cincinnati Yolk. The Bengals are

915
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 10: coming off that big win over Buffalo at home that

916
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 10: maybe they won't be sky but boy, when they when

917
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 10: they watched that tape of this game, they're gonna have

918
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 10: no problem writing for Stroud and the Tagsan's offense. But man,

919
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 10: if they can't do any better on defense than they

920
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 10: did in this game, can't stop Baker Mayfield. They gotta

921
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 10: play Joe Borrow the better throw another five touchdown passes.

922
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Baker played well yesterday.

923
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 2: In fact, I was just watching the field goal again

924
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: from Dara, and they show Baker on the sideline. He's

925
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 2: standing next to Bucks coach or staff or whatever, and

926
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: you see Baker just give like this that look like

927
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: oh okay, Like he starts nodding like all right, you

928
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: know the man. But I love the fans understanding the moment,

929
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: like knowing that's not our kicker, that's a running back.

930
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: Something's going on.

931
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: And when he makes it, I mean, it's a louder

932
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: roar uh than I think anybody expected. General, if I

933
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: would have told you before the game that the Texans

934
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: were gonna have three pass catchers go for over one

935
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: hundred yards and one of them is not Nico Collins, A,

936
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 2: would you have thought I was crazy? And B would

937
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 2: it have been the three guys you thought it actually

938
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 2: was yesterday. No Brown take down and don't Shultz, well.

939
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 10: Of course you had been crazy. Hadn't happened in the

940
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 10: NFL since twenty twenty. There was the only six team

941
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 10: to do it since during the Super Bowl era. And

942
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 10: there were so many great numbers coming out of this

943
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 10: game from the Texans offense and having that kind of

944
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,959
Speaker 10: versatility on offense with all of those receivers, especially Noah

945
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 10: Brown six targets, six catches, Dalton Schultz eleven targets, ten catches.

946
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 10: Now tang Dell had a lot more targets. Stout overthrow

947
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 10: him twice and he dropped one, but it was amazing.

948
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 10: You know, they didn't have Robert Hoods or reliant third

949
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 10: down catcher for the second get him in a row.

950
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 10: So it was an improbable victory. Boy was in for

951
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 10: fun and people who left this should be regretted.

952
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,959
Speaker 5: They'll regret it for a long time. Hopefully we didn't

953
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 5: lose the general right and as we look forward to Cincinnati,

954
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 5: we have to talk about some of the other stuff

955
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 5: that happened.

956
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 8: Around the league.

957
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 5: Yesterday AFC South Jags off. We talked about the Titans

958
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 5: already because they played on Thursday.

959
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: The freaking Colts.

960
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 5: Two pick six is off Bryce Young who could not

961
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 5: help us at all. And I guess we can't, you know,

962
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 5: allow or rely on other people to do our business

963
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 5: for us. But what about that victory for Indianapolis in Carolina.

964
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 10: Of course their defense won that one. But with Gardner Mitchew,

965
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 10: who said this ever since Anthony Richardson went down, I

966
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 10: think they got a chance to win more games because

967
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 10: he's a Vectoran who's been a starter in his one

968
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 10: games in the NFL, where Anthony Richardson would have all

969
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 10: kinds of growing things, only starting thirteen games in college.

970
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 10: And I thought it was great to the Colts. You know,

971
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 10: they stayed right, they're right there that game. Could you know,

972
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 10: I'm not saying that it's gonna have playoff implicate Jass

973
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 10: when they played, but last year's game in Indies certainly

974
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 10: had implications for the off season and the draft. You know,

975
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 10: this was the first time the Texans had come from

976
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 10: behind when they trailed in the last two minutes since

977
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 10: that Indianapolis game, and they won and got stuck with CJ.

978
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 4: Stroud.

979
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this, it's the happiest arranged marriage

980
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 2: I've ever seen. I know the fans of this town,

981
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: the people in the building, the players love CJ.

982
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: Stroud.

983
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 2: I get the feeling CJ. Stroud loves everybody back. It

984
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: is a great relationship and looking forward to seeing the

985
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: one on Sunday against Joe Burrow in the Cincinnati Bengals.

986
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 2: It'll be hyped up all week as Burrow v. Shroud,

987
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: but Bengals v. Texans gonna be an exciting one. We'll

988
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: see you then, everybody, and as always, go Texans.