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Speaker 1: breaks to work. Um, after it cools down, you can

426
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Speaker 1: drive it for a few miles, but then they lock

427
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: up and it's unpredictable. You know how far you're going

428
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: to go with it, so I pretty much have to

429
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: resort to towing it. Have you tried pulling back on

430
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 1: the brake pedal? No, I don't think we've tried that well,

431
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: because what I'm wondering is if if, and are you

432
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 1: the original Well you're not going to be the original owner,

433
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: but did you ever have the vehicle when the brakes worked?

434
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: I'll ask the question that way. Oh yeah, yeah, okay,

435
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: So has anybody addressed the possibility or have you already

436
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 1: changed that that this is a break booster the power

437
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: brake portion that hasn't come That hasn't come up in

438
00:23:54,320 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: the discussion thus far, because it is conceivable if all

439
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,239
Speaker 1: four wheels are really locking up all right? You know?

440
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: And and how do you know it's all four wheels?

441
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: Let me ask that question because you see smoke coming

442
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: all full four wheels. Well, um, I someone who who

443
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: looked at it most recently while it was locked up,

444
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: thing to think that it was definitely if if not

445
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: all four at least the back, but it's front wheel

446
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: dry that part and not certain about Let me ask

447
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: the question this way. Would you spend a hundred dollars

448
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: for a tool that might help you diagnosis at this point? Oh? Definitely? Okay,

449
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: So jump online, go to a rillyoto dot com. You're

450
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: looking for a thermal immager. You know what a thermal

451
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 1: imager is a thermal imager, yeah, just you know it

452
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: just it looks like a ray gun at a star

453
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: trek and when you push the trigger, it will display temperature.

454
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: So you know, take the hub caps off the car,

455
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 1: so you've got a good clean shot at the rotors

456
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: and drums, all right, and you're not you're not insulating

457
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: or skewing the subject. And let's go for a rod.

458
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: Let's shoot temperature beforehand, Let's shoot temperature after at least

459
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: then you can pinpoint down and say, hey, it's all four,

460
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: it's one, and then we can start to talk about one.

461
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: But if it's all of them, or if it's front

462
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: axle rear axle, what I'm thinking about is do you

463
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: have a bad power break booster will Well, we'll see

464
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: that on older cars, especially if the vehicle ever had

465
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: a leaking master cylinder where break fluid leaked into the

466
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: booster from the master and and contaminated the rubber, bound

467
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: it up, gagged it up. It could be damaging to

468
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: the break booster itself, causing it to apply. Do you

469
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: notice it more driving on highway than around town or

470
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: is it regardless of where you're going. It's regardless it's

471
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: it's not been drivable mile probably, Um, do this, and

472
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: do this cautiously, you know, obviously o'reillyoto dot com. See

473
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: what they've gotten the way of a thermal imager. Let's

474
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: start with temperature a yellow notepad. Right down your temperatures

475
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: left front, right, front, left, rear, right rear. Note that. Okay,

476
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: look through did you change everything? The combination valves on

477
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: those and there's more than a few do have a

478
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: habit of rotting from the inside out and they will

479
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: cause they will cause a restriction. Um, just saying I

480
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: don't you know, I don't want to go on the assumption,

481
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: but I think you said you change that to proportioning valve,

482
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: the proportioning valve. But um, the manual for this car

483
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: says that's uh, there's I think three three different Yes,

484
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: there is valve or whatever in the brake system and

485
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: the only one and we've replaced that proportioning. But before

486
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: we go through the rest of them, or maybe you

487
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: want to take the other's apart and look through them

488
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: and make sure they're clean. They do have a habit

489
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: of rusting internally, especially you know it's now what it's

490
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: it's thirty years old. All right, right that you know,

491
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: let's let's get past that it was the fluid problem.

492
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: Let's assume it's age. You know, it's let's move on

493
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: to another possibility and scenario. But what I'm trying to

494
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: get to is when it fails, how hot is hot?

495
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: And if you pull back hard on if you pull

496
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 1: back hard on the brake pedal, pull over the side

497
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: of the road, reach under the dish, give the brake pedal.

498
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: Does the brake pedal feel normal? Does it seem to

499
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: have the same amount of gush you know what? You

500
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: know what I mean when I say gush, trace that

501
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: you push on it and it's got that feel to it.

502
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: Did did the brake pedal get hard? Did it change

503
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: its depth of how far it will go if you

504
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 1: give it up? And did? Yeah? It did? But I

505
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 1: didn't ever pull back on it. I bet you. I

506
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: bet this car has got a booster issue. So attack

507
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: it from there. All right, kiddo, All right, you're welcome

508
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: Riley dot Com. Call me back if you need more.

509
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: You can fix this. Keep going zero run on any

510
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: of the car doctor coming back right after this. Welcome back.

511
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: We're nay of the car doctor. Let's go over to

512
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: Charlie and Virginia. Charlie, what do you got here? What's

513
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: going on with this? Oh six Chevy? Um? Well, I

514
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: got high. It says it's a pump as pump motor

515
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: circuit high see one one three? Um. Okay, the ABS

516
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: light comes on intermittent sometimes. Um. Usually I can start

517
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: a B slight be on, or if I shut it off.

518
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: If I put my foot on the brake and started,

519
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't come on. But since I let off the

520
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: brake pedal, I can hear the pump energazz and then

521
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: and then the B S light comes on more than

522
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: more than more than likely, Charlie, this is either a

523
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: bed break pressure valve the bp MV, or this is

524
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: a bad electronic break control module the e B C M,

525
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: which is they're all part and parcel of each other.

526
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: And you know you're gonna you're gonna change the assembly.

527
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: How many miles are on this vehicle? Okay? What kind

528
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: of conditions the break fluid in? Um? It does look

529
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: a little a little dark. I did change the right

530
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: front caliper and I did check all the wheel speech sensors.

531
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: Everything seems to be you know, it's registering there right now, yeah,

532
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: it's not. That's what one one three is is strictly,

533
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: it's it's I mean, you want to go look at

534
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: things like ground G one G one Ground one is

535
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 1: on the transaxle stud coming out the back by the starter.

536
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: You want to make sure that's good, clean and tight.

537
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: You could get a wiring diagram, go through the electronic

538
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: brak control module, power and ground feeds. You could load

539
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: test them, make sure make sure they're all good all right,

540
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: you know, try wiggling the wiring harness at the e

541
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: B C M which is actually that main gang harness

542
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: coming in where it comes out by the strut tower

543
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: there where that's bolted up where the brake pipes come

544
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: into it, you know, And then you want to look

545
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: then it comes down to its corrosion of the fluid.

546
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: You're looking for corrosion inside the system um, you know.

547
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: And then there's things you can do where you could

548
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: hook the you could take the hard is connector put

549
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,239
Speaker 1: a test light in it and just does the light

550
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: come on when you turn the key on? You know,

551
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: when you have that place to go, get that wiring

552
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: diagram at because that's what I was trying to look for.

553
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: I did try to clean up the for the around

554
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: the module, maybe at the module that's on the pump.

555
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: I tried. I pulled the connector off, tried cleaning up

556
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: inside those little connectors there, put it back on. Still

557
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: did the same. That's why I'm figured it was a

558
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: ground issue somewhere. Maybe um my batteries for eighteen. I

559
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: don't know that has anything now and and and and frankly,

560
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: this is this is either going to be an eb

561
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: C M which, like I said, which is gonna be

562
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: that ABS pump control assembly, or it's it's it's gonna

563
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: be in the harness harness connection the connector itself. So

564
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: do this just just for you, today's your special day, brother,

565
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: all right, all right, Ron at Ron at Car Doctor

566
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: Show dot com. I need the seventeen digit then, and

567
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: and refresh my memory because I want to make sure

568
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: I'm getting you the right thing. I'll find you. I'll

569
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: find you a wiring diagram pin out and I'll email

570
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: it back to you within the week. Okay, all right,

571
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: thank you. Alright, look, yeah, but I think i'll also

572
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: go in I'll also go into the database and see

573
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: what I've got stored. I'll give you some test procedures.

574
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: But I think you're gonna find that this is probably

575
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: an e B C M and I'm gonna guess and

576
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: say it's probably hundred bucks. They're not if I if

577
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: I remember right, they're not cheap. There's not a lot

578
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: of those vehicles left, you know, looking around. Yeah, all right, okay, already,

579
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: thank you. You're very welcome, Charlie. Good luck to you.

580
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: Stay tuned. I'm running any of the car doctor. We're

581
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: back right after this. Don't go away, welcome back. Weren't

582
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: in the car doctor, Tom. I gotta be a little

583
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: political here, and I swore I would never get political,

584
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: but I think the electric car thing people are making

585
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: some interesting comments. And here's I'm gonna get political by

586
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,239
Speaker 1: reading this email. Yes they are. Um, it's just so.

587
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: This is from Dodge. Dodge I believe is in Washington

588
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: or Virginia. I forget where, but he wrote and he said, um, hey, Tom,

589
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: just think of the powers to be had to switch

590
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: to turn off all the gas stations and now think

591
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: electric charging stations. You don't need or want to go there,

592
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: Thanks Dodge. It's an interesting point, right. What I'm thinking

593
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: about is all the power failures we have and now,

594
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: so the only solution is I guess they're gonna have

595
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: to have solar charging for electric vehicles. But from what

596
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: I understand, it's just it's just too expensive and not

597
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: practical given with technology for the next fifteen twenty years.

598
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: They're talking, so I don't know it's but you know,

599
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: it's just we're we're falling more under the thumb. I

600
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: want to see what big oil does. Big Oils laying

601
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: down on this. They haven't stood up to this yet,

602
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: so I want to see where this goes. Uh And

603
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: this email comes to us from Fred and Lexington, Kentucky. Ron.

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00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: I've got a twenty team Ford Mustang. I recently had

605
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: to replace the key fob. I called the locksmith to

606
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: come out. They claim that they could re key the

607
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: re key the fob. They re key the fob, they

608
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: said they programmed the PCM. Now nothing happens, no start,

609
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: no crank. I can't even tell the car because I

610
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: can't shift it out of gear. I'm not quite sure

611
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: what to do. Please help Fred, lex Nakoky fred Um.

612
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: First of all, keys are a pain in the neck.

613
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: They're a pain in something else. But there's a radio,

614
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: there's a family radio show. Um, they're a pain in

615
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: the neck. So at the very least, it's it sounds

616
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: like the locksmith did something wrong and it's hard, you know.

617
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: I don't like the point fingers. But my questions would

618
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: be that they have two keys. If they were re

619
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: keying a key, you're you're indicating that they had lost

620
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: the key, so they were making another one. It's a

621
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: very different procedure. You need to have a master and

622
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: another key to go with it, and then all the

623
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: subsequent keys that you want to program there as well.

624
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: The vehicle has to be placed into security mode or

625
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: they would have to access via a pen, depending upon

626
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: the procedure for the exact year making model. So it

627
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: sounds to me like it's got to go to a

628
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: Ford dealer where their security license is up to date

629
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: to shift it out of park. Read the owner's manual.

630
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: It used to be that you pushed the key to

631
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: the on position and there was a way to bypass

632
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: the shift interlock and that would allow it to be

633
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: told good luck and I hope that helps. I'm monating

634
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: in the card doctor. It's been a great hour. More

635
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: to come until the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive

636
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: they're priceless,