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Speaker 1: Episode three eight with Rita Wilson. I'll tell you, Mike,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know what to expect. H I figured it

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Speaker 1: should be nice. I didn't know what to expect with

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Speaker 1: this interview. She's awesome. Yeah, like you're just like, dang,

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Speaker 1: don't don't go back to California to stay here and

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Speaker 1: be our friend. She has a new album called Rita

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Speaker 1: Wilson Now and Forever Duets. And you know, also, you

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Speaker 1: never know where people want to go if they're talking

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Speaker 1: about specifically we're talking about music, right, and the fact

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Speaker 1: that she was like, yeah, my first thing was on

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Speaker 1: The Redy Bunch. She's talked about being on the episode.

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Speaker 1: I just really enjoyed the interview. Yeah, And so I

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Speaker 1: had met her briefly once before because we have mutual friends.

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Speaker 1: And I never want to bother the stars, and so,

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Speaker 1: because you know what, the stars aren't like us, regardless

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Speaker 1: of what you read, they're not. They're no, they're often busy,

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Speaker 1: and they're cooler, and so I don't want to bother her.

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Speaker 1: But it turns out they're a lot like us, because

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Speaker 1: she's really nice. So, I mean, Rita Wilson has starred

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Speaker 1: in so many movies Sleepless in Seattle, Mixed Nuts Now

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Speaker 1: and then Runaway Bride. It's complicated. She You know. One

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Speaker 1: of the things that I will do is I will,

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Speaker 1: in the middle of an interview sometimes tell a story

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Speaker 1: that I think might somehow resonate with the person I'm interviewing,

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Speaker 1: where they relate to it in a way. It would

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Speaker 1: be a quick one. And it's not really a technique

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Speaker 1: that people recommend because it's me telling a little story

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Speaker 1: I often can tell a story and if someone reacts

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Speaker 1: to it, and that's all I'm looking for a reaction,

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Speaker 1: and I can see what part they react to, and

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Speaker 1: I know they got something to say. And so when

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Speaker 1: we start talking about her parents, this is for me

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Speaker 1: the best part of the whole interview. And sometimes people like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: parents were good, this is tough for it's easy, or

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Speaker 1: mom's gone down, who knows, But this was like a

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Speaker 1: real deal. I just wanted to I could have done

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Speaker 1: an hour on just that. It's really good. So she

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Speaker 1: does it all, you know. Again, she has a new album.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it, will play some of it. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: She's acted in many things. Um, she's I know they

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Speaker 1: have kids, right and they have yeah, yeah kids, Mary

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Speaker 1: to Tom Hanks. She's got a million Instagram followers and

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Speaker 1: she's a really cool person. So I hope you enjoyed

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Speaker 1: this with Rita Wilson. You and I met. I was

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Speaker 1: trying to think too. It was an event after something.

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Speaker 1: It was after the c m A S and it

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Speaker 1: was at the Marriott Hotel. In the after party, there

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Speaker 1: were big donuts on a wall, like, that's what I

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Speaker 1: remember about that in order no offense, big donuts, Rita.

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Speaker 1: That's about that night. One would say that I've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of holes in my head, so maybe that's appropriate.

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Speaker 1: Um No, and you had either just one Dancing with

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Speaker 1: the Stars or you were in the finals. I can't

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Speaker 1: remember exactly, but yeah, I was about to do the finals, yes,

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Speaker 1: and I was exhausted and I was like, why am

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Speaker 1: I doing this? It's funny you remember that. I do

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Speaker 1: remember so because I love the show, and I watched

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Speaker 1: the show. You watch the show? Oh I do? I do?

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Speaker 1: And now it's gone to streaming, so I'm gonna have to,

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Speaker 1: you know, set it up on that. But um, could

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Speaker 1: you do that? Could you dance like that? Can you dance.

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Speaker 1: Oh heck no, I someone that has every performance skill.

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Speaker 1: You can't dance. You have every performance skill acting and

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Speaker 1: comedy and drama. I got we my wife and are

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Speaker 1: watching Curb Enthusiasm, and then the other night we just

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Speaker 1: and you're crushing and I'm like, what does she not do?

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Speaker 1: So you're telling me you can't. I don't believe it. Now,

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Speaker 1: you can be humble, but I don't believe it. Though

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Speaker 1: I have danced. I have danced, but I'm not what

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Speaker 1: you would call a dancer. Like any anything that I do,

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Speaker 1: I have to rehearse a lot. I can't just show

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Speaker 1: Down it's always yes, No, I love it. I love

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Speaker 1: moving and And the thing is, it's like anything like that,

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Speaker 1: you one only because the people. That's I mean, really

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Speaker 1: that's the people. It's very much our culture. The people

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Speaker 1: like you. They celebrate you, and they lift you. And

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Speaker 1: it comes down slow, and it's at least expect that

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Speaker 1: we have a mutual friend. I assume you're Christian. Are

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Speaker 1: still friends? Christian chan Well hard to Christian Bush. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Christian Bush one of the greatest human beings at that time. Yeah. Literally,

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Speaker 1: I got to go on tour with him, and he

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Speaker 1: is and I've written songs with him. One of my

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Speaker 1: of my comedy projects and Christian writes like a mad scientist.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what how it was with you, but

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Speaker 1: I was like, I have this idea for a song.

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Speaker 1: he's got a click in the clock and he's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I got He's all over the place and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, he was a poetry major in college

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Speaker 1: One time we were writing a song together called I'm guilty,

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Speaker 1: Guilty of loving you. You know, I was like, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm busted. Yes, I love you. And the writing assignment

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Speaker 1: he said, Okay, this is the idea, and I want

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Speaker 1: all of the things that you very specifically love about someone.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean, go away like from the room? Yeah, not,

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Speaker 1: Like sometimes you just pick up stuff. You totally pick

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised that you are. But I will say this,

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Speaker 1: but who am I? I'm like, no, that's wrong. I'm

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Speaker 1: don't like that at all. I have not experienced that,

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Speaker 1: owe them that respect, that's right. But so you're telling

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Speaker 1: going to talk off, Mike. I gotta get the beats.

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Speaker 1: I do want to get to the album in a second.

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Speaker 1: And how you landed all these amazing artists or how

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Speaker 1: they landed on your album. I mean, both are really

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Speaker 1: I talked to him a lot through it. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: It was so exhilarating to watch him, met his mom

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Speaker 1: and his uncle. Was really very fun. Anyway, So when uh,

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Speaker 1: the one that he literally came out of his mouth.

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Speaker 1: I said, you know, I have a couple of songs

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Speaker 1: I want to, you know, run by you and he

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Speaker 1: said yes, and I said okay, and he said I'll

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Speaker 1: be there and I was like, oh my gosh, Jimmy,

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Speaker 1: I love that song so much. Yes, that's the one

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Speaker 1: I was thinking of, let's do it. So he's great.

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Speaker 1: He's great, the great you guys did that song wonderfully together.

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Speaker 1: And we'll walk to the whole project in a second,

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Speaker 1: because really some I just a great list of talent

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Speaker 1: and you included it is all on this project. I

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Speaker 1: do want to go back, though, because I'm curious about

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Speaker 1: think the pride wasn't because of some award or job

427
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 1: or accomplishment. It was just because you were consistent and

428
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: worked hard, and it's something that they did. I think so.

429
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: I think in a way yes, because I think you

430
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: can recognize that in your children, you know, and my

431
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 1: brother and sister also worked hard. But I think they

432
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 1: they recognized that we would be okay, Like you know,

433
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 1: all parents want their kids to grow up and be okay.

434
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: You know, you're gonna be able to work, have a

435
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: roof over your head, that sort of thing. So I

436
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: think they were proud that we were um, functioning human beings.

437
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna flip it, now, when were you the

438
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: most proud that they were your parents? Oh? Oh my god,

439
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: Oh if I tell this story, I'm going to totally cry.

440
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: It's safe space here. You couldn't be in a safer space. Okay,

441
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: I'll tell this story. Oh my god, this is this

442
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: is I'm gonna try to tell him without crying. I

443
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: was about twenty three, and I was always incredibly proud

444
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: of my parents. But I was dating somebody who was

445
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 1: like from a wealthier family or something. And we went

446
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: on a double date with his best friend and the

447
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: girl that that guy was dating, and I was intimidated.

448
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: You know, they were definitely in a different economic strata

449
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 1: than you know, I was raised in. And the girl

450
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,479
Speaker 1: asked me, well, my dad did for a living, And

451
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: I said, my dad's a bartender, And she said, why

452
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 1: do you say it like that, because I must have

453
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: just like kind of made a face or something like

454
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: and she said, my dad died. I would give anything

455
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: to have my dad here. And from that point on

456
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: everything changed because I was proud of my parents, and

457
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: I from that point on, I never ever hesitated or

458
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: wavered in being proud of my parents and being proud

459
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: of my dad and what he did for a living,

460
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: because those values and what he gave me so much

461
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: more valuable than anything else that the world could have

462
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: given me. The way to go, Bobby, I never ever

463
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: got to meet him your parents, Well, they're here in

464
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: the room right now. They're amazing. I appreciate your generosity

465
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: with with sharing that about who you are, because that

466
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: is a lot of who you are. Thank you. But

467
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: I can't believe you asked that question, because like after that,

468
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 1: I really had never been prouder. I mean it was

469
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: almost like, what did your dad do for a living?

470
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: My dad is a bartender and he has raised a

471
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: family of three without any debt, without hurting anybody, without

472
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: doing anything shady. He's just a good guy that how

473
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: can you not be proud of that? I can see

474
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: too that you'll go into a songwriting room just from

475
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: this conversation here and be extremely vulnerable. And I think

476
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: that's the first and hardest wall to break down for

477
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: anybody that's trying to get to that level of songwriting

478
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: that feels pure and authentic, because a lot of people

479
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: can rhyme words and write a decent melody, and there's

480
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people in this town, a lot of

481
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: these rooms that can do it even with you. But

482
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: to be able to break down those walls and share

483
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: stories like that in a room with two people with

484
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: three people and go this is me, how do we

485
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: make this into something that like you did it here

486
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: with me and we only met once before. It's the

487
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: right question. You know that that is a I can

488
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: see that as vulnerable as you're being right now, it's

489
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: a place that that you still go with confidence, like

490
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: you were proud to tell that story. You knew it

491
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: was gonna make you emotional. Do you ever, because I

492
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, shame is such a powerful thing

493
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: and so many people deal with that, and and what

494
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: I feel shame is in some ways is just a

495
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: barrier to the vulnerability because you're trying to avoid it

496
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: in some ways, and uh, if you can, I felt like,

497
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: you know, if you can eliminate that, then just get

498
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: to get to the truth. Ah. I've been very lucky

499
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: in that. Um the songwriters that the very first songwriter,

500
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: the person who told me I should be writing a

501
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: song as Karada Gordy and Kara asked this one very

502
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: simple question. I said, I can't be a songwriter. I

503
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, don't play music and read music or playing instrument.

504
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: She goes, neither do I Do you have something you

505
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,239
Speaker 1: want to say? And when she said that, I was like,

506
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: wait a minute, is that part of like is that

507
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: part of it. She said, I'm going to write your

508
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: first two songs with you so she could show me

509
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: the process, and she did, and I was I wrote

510
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: that song was called Grateful, with Jason Reeves and Karada Gordy,

511
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: and that showed me, Oh, okay, oh I oh, I

512
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: see how this can work. And then all of a sudden,

513
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: it's like a cascade of ideas and feelings and thoughts,

514
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: and you know, it's one of the most satisfying experiences

515
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: that I've ever been, you know, lucky enough to to do.

516
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: I never thought it would happen. And in the feelings

517
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: because I've written a couple of books, and the feelings

518
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: from writing books are even doing a five hour radio

519
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: show everywhere I'm talking about things happening to me in

520
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: my personal life and different struggles and highlights and the

521
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: hard things to talk about. They're never not hard, but

522
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: you understand that almost the harder, more vulnerable you are,

523
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: the more people and you can get, even yourself, the

524
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: more you can actually get from it. So you realize

525
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 1: also after a few times of feeling unsafe and it

526
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: ends up not being death right, You're like, Okay, I

527
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: can go back and feel that way again and not

528
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: have to worry about dying, which I worked. And so

529
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: have you felt that in songwriting where you're you're able

530
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: to get vulnerable quicker now because and it's always it

531
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: doesn't feel good, but you understand it's okay. Yes, not

532
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: being taken care of by the people. Yes, And we're

533
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: doing something for a reason that's right. And and I

534
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: feel again, if people are there writing to write with

535
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: me and I'm there to write with them, we have

536
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: to be in that space. Uh. And and it's just

537
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: almost like a requirement. This is a required behavior for

538
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: a long writing session. And you know sometimes sometimes you

539
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: don't get there all the time. But um, it's definitely

540
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: a good starting point. Why Nashville, Why country music? I mean,

541
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: just just a general vague question because I don't know

542
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: the answer to it. I know you love it. I

543
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: have friends of mine to love you and say she's

544
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: legitimate and that her it's her care and her passion.

545
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: But I don't know why. All right, I'll tell you.

546
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: When I was growing up, we had just AM radio, Okay,

547
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: so all those genres were on there. So you're hearing

548
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: R and B and soul and pop and country, and

549
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, and from forever away because I am radio

550
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: traveled all way across the county exactly. It was everywhere.

551
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: So all these genres are coming at you every single day,

552
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: and for me, it really was storytelling and I would

553
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: imagine things. I would imagine the scenarios. And the first

554
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: song that I absolutely thought I want to sing this song,

555
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: like stand up and sing this song was owed to

556
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: Billy Joe by Bobby Gentry. It was just it was

557
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: just this girl had something to say here. You know,

558
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: there was a story. So I knew Johnny Cash because

559
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: of a boy called Sue. I knew Dolly Parton, I

560
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: knew um Loretta Lynn, May she rest in peace? Tell

561
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: me why Net All those people were coming through the radio.

562
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: So g D. C Riley, Harper Valley p t a

563
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: huge and things crossed over back then. So when I

564
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: started writing with Kara, we wrote we were writing in

565
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: l a Um. She suggested Nashville, and Kristin Chenowith suggested Nashville.

566
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: She said, you at the time she was living no

567
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: she was living in l a at the time, and

568
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: she said, you were going to love it down there,

569
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: Go down there. And I had a manager at the

570
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: time that was based in Nashville. So I started coming

571
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: down and they started setting up rights, and I realized

572
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: this is exactly like, this is the storytelling capital of

573
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: the world. And when you come to a place where

574
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: songwriting is revered and music is revered, it's called music

575
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: city for a reason. You understand the that it's valued here,

576
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: and that I think is why, you know, I came

577
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: down here and started it. But also people were very

578
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: open and very receptive, which I I am so thankful for.

579
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 1: Why would they have accepted me as oh yeah, okay,

580
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: you know, some chick from Hollywood wants to come down

581
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: here and write music. But it was for me, it

582
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: was beyond that. It was sort of like what I

583
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: always really wanted to do. Like when you think of

584
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: something you love to do when you when you were

585
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: a kid, by the way, did you have anything like

586
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: that that you love to do when you were a kids?

587
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: Be on a stage, you know, find there you go. Yeah,

588
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: it was you're probably entertaining your friends. Yeah, mine was singing.

589
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: It was like, I want to get up and sing.

590
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: Were you a good singer as a kid? I have

591
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: no idea, no idea as a kid in front of

592
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: more than five people like you ever. No, no, no,

593
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: never like that. Never. I'm just kidding. No. I would

594
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: do school plays and things like that, singing. Oh my god,

595
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: you're reminding me. Duh. I sang in a church singing

596
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: groom called the Way Home, and we sang songs like uh,

597
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: Bridge over Troubled Water, Yes, and we sing it. You know,

598
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: it was a quiet We were like maybe we were

599
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: a singing group. Those boys and girls. We're thirteen, fourteen

600
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: years old. We were patchwork skirts and white blasses. I

601
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: have not thought of this in a while. Clearly, I'm like, oh, yeah,

602
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: I was singing in front of more than twenty five people,

603
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: that is right. Um, did you get a solo? No,

604
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: we nobody had solos. It was just sort of like

605
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: the church leader played guitar and we were like, you know,

606
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: a wholesome patchwork. What did the boys were. I think

607
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: they were like brown chords? And did you find fulfillment

608
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: as a kid in this group where you like, this

609
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: is what I'm supposed to be doing. But like there

610
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: was the early stages of that. I totally loved it.

611
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: I was obsessed with it. And then that was in

612
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: junior high and which we now call middle school, but

613
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: then when I went to high school, it there wasn't

614
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: anything like that that continued on, like the church group,

615
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 1: singing group didn't continue on. And um, by then, you know,

616
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: I had found cheerleading just yelling, not singing. I thought

617
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: high school exactly you when you graduated high school, good student?

618
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: You said you have college for a couple of years.

619
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: What kind of student were you? Um? Not very present

620
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: because I was always working doing what acting? So by then,

621
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: at sixteen, you know I did the Brady Bunch. I

622
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: didn't know that, yes, I got my screen actor's car.

623
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: I did not know that, yes, Bobby, would you like

624
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: me to do the cheer for you? Because? Okay, so

625
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: what role cher Pat Conway with? Who? With Greg and Marcia? Okay,

626
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: so this was the episode Greg had a girlfriend. She

627
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: was running for a cheerleader. Marsha was also running for

628
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: a cheerleader. But the girlfriend was kind of using Greg

629
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: because he was a judge of the cheerleading competition. And

630
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: so when the time came, it was a tie vote

631
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: and he was supposed to be the tie brea and

632
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: it was going to get him into deep hot water

633
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: with his girlfriend. So instead he chose me The cheerleader

634
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: who really was a cheerleader in real life. I've seen

635
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: every episode pretty much and and I can vaguely remember

636
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: that I did not know that was that was Yeah,

637
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: That's how I got my Screen Actors Guild card. Was

638
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: that show big? Though? When you went by everyone like

639
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: Marie McCormick drove a chocolate brown Mercedes onto the Paramount

640
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: Studios a lot, you know, like, oh my god. You

641
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: know she's driving a brand new and she was only

642
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: fifteen and a half. She had her permit, but she

643
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: could drive, you know, with an adult in the car.

644
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: So she had a Mercedes, which was like, oh, this

645
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: is crazy, fifteen year old of the Mercedes, and um,

646
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: the producers were the same ones that produced Gilligan's Island

647
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: and all the shows that I loved. And during the filming, UM,

648
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Montgomery, who played Samantha on Bewitched, came to the

649
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: setence at high so she was also one of my heroes.

650
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: I told ye exactly, So you're sixteen and you're working,

651
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: are you like, Okay, this is what I'm supposed to do.

652
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: I know I have school, but this is what I

653
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: really want to focus on. Or was it just there

654
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: was so much fun, Like, well, what is it for

655
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: a sixteen year old? It was so much fun. And

656
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: also it was consistent. At that point. I also had

657
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: an agent now, so I got my screen actor skilled,

658
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: I get an agent. I'm now doing a ton of commercials.

659
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: And I just kept working and working, and I never stopped.

660
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: And there was a point where I realized, Oh, my goodness,

661
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: I think this is my job. I was going to

662
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: college to become a communications major, like graduate high school

663
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: though honestly like if oh no, because I I worked.

664
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: Oh well, we had a program at high school called

665
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: four four, so you could go to school for four

666
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: hours and then work part time for four hours. And

667
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: so I got them to agree that modeling after school

668
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: for four hours and doing auditions for commercials was a job.

669
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: And it was because I was constantly going on auditions.

670
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 1: I guess there are so many kids there that act

671
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: or in the arts where those programs are probably at

672
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: a lot of the different schools because they have to

673
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: be yes here, and that would you know that would

674
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: happen because there's not a lot of kids doing that.

675
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: But that makes a lot of sense. But it's much

676
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: more prevalent when you go to universities now too, and

677
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: they all have theater departments, film departments, because it's just,

678
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: you know, there's a need from more contact, condum content

679
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: and people who make the content. So I think that's

680
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. Was there ever a place in your

681
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: career early on where you thought, you know, I want

682
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: to sing, Oh yeah, but but to do that, I

683
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: might actually two steps back, Like did that ever cross

684
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: your mind? I really wanted to, And I remember having

685
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: a very specific moment that, you know, I had a

686
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: job as a ticket taker at this concert venue called

687
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: the Universal Amphitheater, and it was an outdoor venue and

688
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: everybody came through there in the seventies, so it was

689
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, Joni Mitchell, Carol King, James Taylor, Jackson Brown,

690
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: Alton John, the Eagles, you know, you name it. They

691
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: came through. And I remember sitting on the steps. I

692
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: would take the tickets, then they would allow us to

693
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: watch the show. And I remember sitting down on the

694
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 1: steps and having this pit in my stomach, like, how

695
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 1: how do you get up there and be a singer?

696
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: How do you get to do that? You know, how's

697
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: Linda Ronstad up there? How do you find a band?

698
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: Do I have to play instrument like it was. It

699
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: was like a palpable pit in your stomach, like alonging

700
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: and aching a yearning and not knowing how to make

701
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: that happen. And back then, if by the time I

702
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: started really being becoming established, if you were an actor,

703
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: you stayed in the acting lane, If you were a singer,

704
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: you stayed in the singing lane. And there really wasn't

705
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: crossover or any overlapping that happened. Back then, it was

706
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: just that's your that's what you do. And if you

707
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: were on Broadway, that was friends. But Broadway people didn't

708
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: do film. It's so weird. Now everybody can do everything.

709
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: The mid nineties was kind of the first yes, the

710
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: first layer of even then it was kind of weird,

711
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: like when Jennifer Lopez would do it. Yeah, but now

712
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: everybody does everything exactly. I think that's good. I don't

713
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: think that we should be limited. Everybody's creative. Creative people

714
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: do more than one thing. Did your friends know you

715
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: could sing like where you let's say you're back in

716
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: the trailer? Did did they know you as read it?

717
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: Who could sing really well? But it's also a great actress.

718
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: I'm just trying. I'm just finding where Probably no, But

719
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: I went to drama school I had. I had done

720
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: this small play called Vanity's and the director of that

721
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: play said, you seem to be like to be on

722
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: the stage. Have you ever had any formal training? And

723
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, not formal training. No. He said, well, you

724
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: should probably go to get some like Shakespeare stage training.

725
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: I was like, where do you do that? Like stage?

726
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: You mean like a sound stage and paramount, Like I

727
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: literally I don't think I've ever even seen a play.

728
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: And he said, oh, there's these schools that you can

729
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: go to, and he put me in touch with a

730
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: woman that had come from this program in London at

731
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: the London Academy Music and Dramatic Art. So I applied

732
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: and I got in. While I was there, they would

733
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: have us do different things to kind of get us

734
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: out of our comfort zone, and one of them was

735
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: they assigned me to sing this opera thing English English.

736
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: It was actually a Rossini opera, but um I had

737
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: to sing it as a duet with another woman, and

738
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: this woman was an amazing singer, and I thought, I'm

739
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: not never gonna be pulling this off. But anyways, I

740
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: did it, and I remember one of my teachers came

741
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 1: up to me and said, I didn't know you could sing.

742
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: I was like, am I not? Like I am? I

743
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: was you call that singing? I don't know, but it

744
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 1: was nice to hear that, you know, In a way,

745
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: I'm always curious about people that have done in one

746
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: part of their career, one part of their professional life,

747
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: massive things, but then they go somewhere else and they

748
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 1: still get really nervous even when things aren't as massive.

749
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: And this has happened to me a few times. And

750
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm doing ready or TV and I

751
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: switch over and have to do something in an art

752
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: that's not the same, and I want to take it

753
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: to the opera in you because I would imagine you're

754
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: a little nervous when you're singing at the Grand ol Opera.

755
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: Even though we could go down every single thing you've

756
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: ever done. It would be like, why would you be

757
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: nervous at the Grand ol Opery. But my intuition is

758
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: that that means enough to you that you would be

759
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: really nervous going out there for the first time. You

760
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: have no idea. First of all, when you do it

761
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: for the first time, they put you in the very

762
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: first where every single person, and all the quotes are

763
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: up and exactly all the quotes are on the wall,

764
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: all the photographs are on the wall. Everybody leaves their

765
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: door open, people come by and welcome you. I know

766
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: you've heard the expression of rubber legs. I had never

767
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: experienced that until doing the Opery. You come off the

768
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: stage and it it feels as if your legs are

769
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: like noodles, which I think it will be hard for

770
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: people to believe. This was my point because again, you've

771
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: done some really massive things in our eyes right when

772
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: it comes to movies, television, and now you're at the opera,

773
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: which is the big deal. Does but you're like, We're like,

774
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: it is nervous. The opery is. Everybody knows. Everybody knows

775
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: what the opery is. Everybody knows. You stand in that

776
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: circle and there is weight and there is power in

777
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: that because of all the people who have stood in

778
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: that circle for not is it a hundred years, now

779
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 1: hundred years and uh there's history that that comes along

780
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: on with that. And we'll talk about this later, but

781
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: even in this album of duets, when we were recording it,

782
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: I felt that the history of those songs, not just

783
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: the moment that the songwriters wrote them, but everything that

784
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: came after that, the original singer, all the people who

785
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: have covered those songs, the people who have singed the

786
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: have sung those songs in their lives, have used them

787
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: for different occasions. There's a power to the history of

788
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: things like that, even though they may be ephemeral. And

789
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: that's what you're experiencing. The first time that I played

790
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: the opery, I remember not being able to anybody's face

791
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: because the lights. The second time I played the operate,

792
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't the same because I had experienced and I

793
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: wasn't as as nervous, right, But I remember being so

794
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: nervous that the lights seemed way too bright and I

795
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: can see nobody's face, and I wouldn't even look all

796
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: the way into the crowd, and I just was like,

797
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 1: I don't know how this is going, and there are people,

798
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: everybody's there. For your first time, I'm getting chills because

799
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: you're saying this it's scary already and this and I

800
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: at the first time is more of an experience. But

801
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: I actually found the second time more enjoyable because I

802
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: got to appreciate, yes, the moment and go, Okay, this

803
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: is awesome. The first time, it's like, oh my god,

804
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: like what is It's like you're questioning why you even

805
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: deserve to be here the first time. But then you

806
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: have people like Jeanie Seely who comes up and says,

807
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: you know, God, we're so happy to have you, thank

808
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: you so much for being here. Everybody is so great. Well,

809
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: one of the guys, Larry Paxton, played on my first album.

810
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: He's in the Opery Band. The Opery Band is so

811
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: amazing that you know, literally they got your back. So

812
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: there's all of those elements that conspire to make you

813
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: feel more comfortable, but no one will ever be able

814
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: to not have the rubber legs coming off that stage.

815
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: One more question before we get into the album. It

816
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: is that you do come to town a decent amount

817
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: to write because people say, hey, we wrote with Rated

818
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: today or she was in town. But I think you're

819
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: only in town of one day now, right, is it

820
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: just yes, so and day. I'm kind of like traveling around.

821
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: You know what, when you talk about work ethic, like

822
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: you come to town, you work, and you get to

823
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: work done, and then you go back and you do

824
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: other work. But it's like you're dedicated to this, yes

825
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: and this is not an easy trip for someone who

826
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: has to go to either way. It's true. It's true.

827
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: Why because there's love there, and you know what we

828
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: do for love, We bend over backwards. We want to

829
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: make things happen. I I have a really wonderful community

830
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: of friends here, songwriters, artists, people that live here. That

831
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: the only regret that I have is that, you know,

832
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: we didn't get an apartment here like ten years ago

833
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 1: when I first started coming down. Because now I come

834
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 1: and I look downtown and I'm counting cranes like whoa.

835
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: I think the last time I was here, I counted

836
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: like twelve or something in the downtown area. It's like

837
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: we have a barn back there. If you gets want

838
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: to stay there, thank you. But I want to play

839
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: so now, because of legal rules, we can only play

840
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: up to a certain amount of time of these songs.

841
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna roll through all of the books. I

842
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: think this whole is so good. It's such a great

843
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: project with Keith Urban Crazy Love here you go. First

844
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: of all, obviously a song that makes me think of

845
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: different times in my life, of all the different times

846
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: I heard the song by different people rights That is

847
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: such a wonderful song Why Keith Urban for that song? Specifically,

848
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: Keith has one of the greatest voices ever. You know,

849
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: there's something about Keith can reinterpret things. And I know

850
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: you've seen him in concert. He's an amazing live performer.

851
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: But his voice and on on what do we call

852
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: it tape? His voice on tape registers and his tone

853
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: is so beautiful. I just, I just, I don't know.

854
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 1: I thought of him for that song and never quite

855
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: left my mind. You know, it kind of had to

856
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: be him with Smokey Robinson Where's the Love? Where I

857
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 1: mean Smokey Robinson. That's just seeing that name. Oh my goodness.

858
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: Did you know Smokey Robins? No? No, I hadn't met him,

859
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: you know, in passing, didn't really know him. Okay. He

860
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: is one of the greatest songwriters and performers of all time.

861
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: When you just think of the songs that he has,

862
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 1: tracks of My Tears, Cruising, Uh, Tears of the Clown.

863
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: You know, he goes on and on it. He's written

864
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: for himself, he's written for others. The other day, Um,

865
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,959
Speaker 1: we did Good Morning America together and we sang where

866
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: is the Love? Okay? You know you you know when

867
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: you do a show like that, you're up at four

868
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: in the morning. Guess who's read on time. Smokey Robinson's

869
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: a little early. He's there, We do the rehearsal. He's amazing.

870
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: It's surreal. That's another moment where you're like, you're looking

871
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: at this person who's got these clear green eyes that

872
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: you feel you know because of your history with the

873
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: music and knowing who he is, looking across from him

874
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: and singing to each other. That's like ridiculous. He and

875
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: he loved the song. That's the that's the most fun part.

876
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: He loved the song because if the artist didn't love

877
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: the song, we would go to another choice and say, Okay,

878
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: what else here, here's another one that's so cool. Smokey

879
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: Robinson is so cool. That's so cool. Willie Nelson slept

880
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 1: sliding away. I mean, Willie, What can I say about Willie?

881
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: Listen to everything? Yeah, I mean, I don't know where

882
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: to start because I have all these different decades of

883
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: my Willie experience, being with with my grandma, with my mom,

884
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: having him on my show, being a fan like Blue

885
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: Eyes Part of the Right is one of my favorite

886
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: top three songs of all time and so again it's

887
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: almost like I'm in all of all these people and

888
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: I just want to go like, what was it like?

889
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: So it's almost like, what was it like to be

890
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: able to do was song with Willie Alison? Well? What

891
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: I love it? First of all? Surreal? Okay, My amazing

892
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: co producer, Matt Rawlings, was he was living in Nashville, UM.

893
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: He produced and won Grammys for Willie's Sinatra album My

894
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: Way and also the Gershwin album, and he was the

895
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: one who knew Willie, so he made the ask to Willie.

896
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 1: But in this album of duets of seventies cover songs,

897
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: what we were trying to do or like, what I

898
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: thought would be a cool idea, was all right, how

899
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: do you make it different? Well, it's duets, but these

900
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 1: songs typically haven't been done as duets. I knew Willie

901
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: liked Paul Simon, and I thought, wow, this would be

902
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: perhaps a cool song. So we presented Slip Slide in

903
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: a way a great song. And now it felt to

904
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: me like some interpretation of a woman saying this about

905
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: this man, a man saying this about this woman, and

906
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: to hear there's so much poignancy in Willie's voice and

907
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: when he says something like the nearer your destination, the

908
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: more you're slip sliding away, it gives you chills. But

909
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: at the same time, I'm like, yeah, well, you're not

910
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: going anywhere for a really long time. I love you,

911
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,479
Speaker 1: and you're you're here to stay with Jackson Brown. Here

912
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: is let it be me. I mean, all these songs

913
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: are so good too. It's like it's reminding me of

914
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: all the times even slip slide in a way like

915
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: I have like even three cover versions of the originals,

916
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: like even like an Akung cover version, even like and

917
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: all of it's like, I just I love these songs

918
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 1: so much and in many different places. But Jackson Brown

919
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: one of the coolest, the coolest, and you know, in

920
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: the seventies he was considered like the songwriter's songwriter in

921
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: the Eagles documentary, like Don Henley and Glenn Fry are

922
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: looking over there like Jackson lived below us, and you

923
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: know we'd be like upstairs party and Jackson would be

924
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: down there writing and writing and we'd be hearing in

925
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 1: the song would be getting better and better. And he

926
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 1: is like that. And you know, there's a cool book

927
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 1: called rock Me on the Water, which is about nineteen

928
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: seventy four, this year of music and politics and TV

929
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 1: and film. And there's a quote in there by Jackson

930
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 1: that he talked about never hanging out at the Troubadoor.

931
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: Troubador was our great local club, because he said, I

932
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: knew that if I was at the Troubadoor, I wasn't

933
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: at home writing music. That's how dedicated he was as

934
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: a songwriter. He's an incredible person. With Leslie Odom Jr. Massachusetts,

935
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: what are you saying? He's like butter his voice it's

936
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: just so like it literally melts you. Um an incredible talent.

937
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: I had met him only once when I had seen

938
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 1: Hamilton's on day three of previews. You know, that's before

939
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: the show is even open. They're still kind of tweaking it.

940
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: And he opened his mouth to sing as Aaron Burr

941
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: in that musical, and I couldn't take my eyes off

942
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: of him. And I couldn't take my ears off of him.

943
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: He was just incredible. You know, he's he's a wonderful actor,

944
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: a wonderful singer, songwriter. Did you get a point where

945
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: you're like, I can't believe everybody's saying yes, I can't

946
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: believe all these people are saying yes, because it's like

947
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: the coolest group of people I've ever seen all together.

948
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: And I'm not even I'm just basically halfway through it

949
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: right now. I felt like there was something that was

950
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: fortuitous for us, and that was that we were in

951
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: year two of the pandemic, and I think people still

952
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 1: were not touring and people were home, and when the project,

953
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, the idea was pitched to them, I think

954
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: they could respond because it was songs that they knew,

955
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: songs they could just relate to and connect to. And

956
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: I think we got lucky in that way. To you,

957
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: one of the ones I was really struck by the

958
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: first time I heard it because I love Elvis Costello.

959
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: I love I love it. He's so good, He's so good.

960
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 1: Here's Fire. And maybe it's I love Els Costello. Maybe

961
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: it's the tone of the guitar, you know. Yeah, I

962
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: think that Elvis played on played guitar and some of that,

963
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: and I think that is either Dave Levita or Dean

964
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: Parks on that solo, which is, you know, two incredible guitarists.

965
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: And the sounds great too. I mean, Forever you Fire,

966
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's that's there's just one thing that Elvis

967
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: does which I think is so amazing. And that song

968
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: was written by Bruce Springsteen, and the Pointer Sisters made

969
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: it famous. But Bruce had actually written it for Elvis

970
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: Presley and he sent it. He doesn't know if Elvis

971
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: ever heard the song, because Elvis died and then a

972
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: guy called Robert Gordon cut it. I don't know if

973
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: the Pointer Sisters heard that version or if they heard

974
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: a demo, but whatever, they were the ones that made

975
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: it famous. But there is a a part in this

976
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: song that Elvis Costello sings. When he sings and when

977
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: we Kiss Fire, he draws out kiss as if there

978
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: is so much frustration and angst, like if he doesn't

979
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: get to kiss this woman, he's gonna go bananas. And

980
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: then the fire is like this big exclamation point. You know.

981
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 1: I just loved his take on that. Here's our buddy

982
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: Tim McGraw on if Much Stop Yeah, oh yeah. By

983
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: the way, you know, Tim is like an encyclopedic jukebox.

984
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: He's his own, you know, I pod of music. When

985
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: it comes to the seventies, he knows so much and

986
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: he often does seventies songs as sort of like a

987
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: pre stage sort of, you know, let's get together in

988
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: the sing before we go on. And I had never

989
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,479
Speaker 1: heard him sing like this, but he was a bread fan,

990
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: so I love that he picked this song. We mentioned

991
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: Jimmy earlier and here is I'll be there. I mean

992
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: the Michael Jackson Jackson five just look up on my shoulder.

993
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy is able to do that as a mature man.

994
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: Or it doesn't sound creepy, it doesn't sound like it's

995
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: like purely derivative of Michael, but it's still like you go,

996
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you can't even hear Michael doing it. Just

997
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: wear my show exactly. And I was like, I was

998
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: glad that he kept that in because I don't know,

999
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: you know, you don't know if that's an improv when

1000
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: the Jackson's did it, or if it was if it

1001
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: was something that was written. But I love that he

1002
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: left that in there. You know, he's an amazing singer.

1003
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: And he told me once said he came to Nashville,

1004
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: he was in When he was in l A, they

1005
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 1: said you're two country, and then when he came to Nashville,

1006
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: he was starting to hear a year two pop. He

1007
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 1: is the perfect combination. I think he's defined his sounds

1008
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: so beautifully and he does it so well, and I'm

1009
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: so thrilled with all the success that he has had

1010
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: because he's so deserves that. He's an amazing human. Even

1011
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: in that it doesn't even feel forced, No, because again,

1012
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: like you said, was that just them in private? And

1013
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: I just just add living all the way, you know,

1014
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: through the song and just and he does that, but

1015
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like he's trying to force it just

1016
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: for the sake of it. And that really struck me

1017
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: the first time. Exact Vince Gill without you, I mean,

1018
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 1: Vince Gil the hardest person to cover in the whole world,

1019
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: because he sings like an angel and and at a

1020
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: at a high, very high. He takes you to have

1021
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: him for a little visit when you sing with him.

1022
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: Haven't Josh Groban too? I mean one thing about Vince

1023
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: that I love and we were like, okay, here here

1024
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: are the songs he had been on my first album.

1025
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: He's saying harmonies on Faithless Love. And that album was

1026
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 1: called MFM Cover Songs also, and I didn't know him.

1027
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: When you know, um Fred Mullins my producer that first

1028
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: Albu I'm asked um Vince to do the song when

1029
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: I asked him about this album and I said, look Um,

1030
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: is there a song that you love? I have some

1031
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: ideas and he said, without you and I love the

1032
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: song that was his was his suggestions because he said

1033
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: he would sing that song with his family girls, And yeah, Amy,

1034
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: it was very cool. The last track speaking of People

1035
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: to Take You to Heaven Josh Grobe and here songbirds

1036
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: and vocally Vince and Josh they don't sing anywhere near

1037
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: each other, but all that just kind of works together.

1038
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: Those two tracks. I listen to them together. I was like,

1039
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: and I don't know why you put them in nine

1040
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: and ten. Maybe it was songs maybe, but I really

1041
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: liked I don't want to say juxtaposition, but yeah, it

1042
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: still felt like that, like the perfect combination of songs

1043
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: beside each other with you and those two I love that,

1044
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's important to how youse sequence

1045
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: an album. I still listen to albums when my friends

1046
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: or any any album comes out that I'm interested in.

1047
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: I listened to it from start to finish, and when

1048
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: sitting I feel like that's what the artists made the

1049
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: record for, and you know, they're telling a story and

1050
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: so this was really about these conversations of love and

1051
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: uh uh. Songbird to me felt like a good ending

1052
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: because it feels like vows people might be saying to

1053
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: each other, if you really love someone, you know, I'll

1054
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: do this for you. You know, I got your back

1055
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: sort of thing. The album Rita Wilson Now and forever, duets.

1056
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: Go stream it, go download it, go buy it. People

1057
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: still buy CDs sometimes, do you know. I'll tell you.

1058
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: I was with a couple of my nieces last night

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Speaker 1: and even yesterday. They're from Los Angeles and they him

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Speaker 1: and they love country music. So I took him to

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Speaker 1: the Operay and took them all backstage. And I can

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Speaker 1: do the tour myself now because I just I'm there

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Speaker 1: so often. I take them all around. And I said, hey,

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Speaker 1: we have some CDs are like c d s, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, never mind, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: move on. So but it's up. The album is wonderful,

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Speaker 1: It really is. One of Rita will also be making

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Speaker 1: a return to New York City's Cafe Carlisle for a

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Speaker 1: special two week residency October twenty November five. For a ticket,

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Speaker 1: go to at Rita Wilson which is your your Instagram

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Speaker 1: social it's all up there. It's it's really great. It

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Speaker 1: really is really great. I enjoyed sometimes, and I'll be

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Speaker 1: honest with you, I don't enjoy having to listen to

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Speaker 1: things if I don't enjoy them before I meet with somebody. Luckily,

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Speaker 1: I'd already listened to some of yours because I have

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Speaker 1: friends that were kind of bragging about it. But it's wonderful.

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Speaker 1: It's wonderful. Um. The final question I have for you

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Speaker 1: is one of the people on my show they were

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Speaker 1: at the at c m A Fest and you were

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Speaker 1: at c m A Fest and they were just sitting

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Speaker 1: at a random place and they ranted you and your

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Speaker 1: husband sitting in the random normal people see eats. And

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Speaker 1: they were like, why would they be sitting in the

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Speaker 1: random normal people's seats? Where would we be otherwise when

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Speaker 1: we were at Keith's show. Maybe, yeah, we were at

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Speaker 1: Keith's show att yeah, But but my point is, what

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Speaker 1: do you mean where you would you be? You would

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Speaker 1: be in the fancy where people can't bother you, like

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Speaker 1: with the wine and the champagne and fruit. Fruit. That's

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Speaker 1: not really getting the experiences it though. Like, by the way,

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Speaker 1: we've done that and it's great. But if you really

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Speaker 1: want to get an experience of being like at the show,

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Speaker 1: you got to be at the show. She was shocked.

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Speaker 1: She was like, she just came across you guys sitting

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Speaker 1: with the people, and she was like, nobody was bothering

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Speaker 1: them because nobody thought that was really them sitting with

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Speaker 1: the people. It was like seeing Jerry Seinfeld at a

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Speaker 1: gas station in Mississippi. You're like, there's no way that's

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Speaker 1: really him. So I ain't even gonna try to talk

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Speaker 1: to that person. Did that happen to you know? But

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Speaker 1: that's like my analogy of like you just go super

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Speaker 1: unletted by the way, Well, I do believe that, So

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Speaker 1: you guys do that, you will go listen. Don't forget

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Speaker 1: I was a ticket taker at a concert me. I

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Speaker 1: used to sit on the steps and watch the concerts.

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Speaker 1: That's how you get the show. Well, this has been

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Speaker 1: a real treat for me. We've done over an hour.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this has been a real treat for me.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea you were going to get me

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Speaker 1: to cry, like a little bit of timing. Baby. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you're very generous with this interview, So thank you. Very much.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your passion and all aspects. I appreciate your parents.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so do I I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think of all of this. I mean that to resonate

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Speaker 1: so hard with me about your parents and how much

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Speaker 1: they loved you, and how much they loved it here,

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Speaker 1: and how hard they fought to get here they did.

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Speaker 1: God bless the meta, God bless Dad's You guys, follow

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Speaker 1: read to get tickets, strained the album at Rida Wilson,

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Speaker 1: and read a real pleasure. Thank you, Thank you, Bobby,