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Speaker 2: You know how serious it is when the paper pops.

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Speaker 2: A lot of you are watching our show. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I feel like that was forceable but also interactive enough.

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Speaker 2: We have a mild crisis in college football. Scheduling has

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Speaker 1: I haven't liked it.

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Speaker 2: Most of you haven't liked it, judging by my inbox,

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Speaker 2: but we have thought there's not much we can do

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Speaker 2: about it. Well, then steps in the NCAA Football Oversight

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Speaker 2: Committee earlier this week and says, you know what, you

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Speaker 1: Bye.

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Speaker 2: And it sounds like that will soon be approved by

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Speaker 1: Probably more than we need. But here's the end of

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Speaker 2: It looks like multiple conferences are about to make a

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Speaker 2: For example, even though I'm going to talk about the

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Speaker 2: A lot of you know, for example, Oklahoma and Texas

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Speaker 2: Well that means somebody has to finish fourteenth out of fourteen.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like it's so straightforward.

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Speaker 1: It however you want to. Maybe it's quadrant versus quadrant

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Speaker 2: But also you still do not have consensus on that divisions, pods.

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Speaker 2: But if it is a pod format, here's the most

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Speaker 1: To take away.

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Speaker 2: If you have four by four by four by four,

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Speaker 2: that's just for scheduling purposes, because in that kind of model,

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Speaker 2: the number one team and the number two team, regardless

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Speaker 2: Conference championships are clearly not going anywhere. They are very

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Speaker 1: Now, what about the Big Ten? The Big Ten was.

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Speaker 2: you permission to do away with that structure entirely. Isn't

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Speaker 2: They got a and they also have really good numbers already,

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Speaker 2: Much like my favorite show, which I just wrapped up.

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Speaker 2: What was it, four seasons, Colin? Many seasons that Ozark?

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Speaker 2: We got five of them tonight? Five big predictions from

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Speaker 1: Number one.

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Speaker 2: Scoring points is how you win football games, but there's

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 2: Does anyone even want to look into the abyss of

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Speaker 1: Of course, a lot of you are shaking your head.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't mean anything, but they're favored so easily a very

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Speaker 2: That could be the shine put back on one of

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Speaker 2: I just mentioned the Third Saturday in October. Director Colin

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Speaker 2: Your life and what you've observed with your own two

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Speaker 1: So when's it ever going to change?

437
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Speaker 2: Logic tells you eventually has got it happened at the

438
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Speaker 2: very least. I don't even care if Bama goes in

439
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 2: there and wins thirty one to twenty four, if we

440
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 2: get undefeated. Tennessee welcoming Alabama in Remember last year when

441
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 2: Arkansas welcomed Texas m and you may have turned that

442
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 2: game on and you got an environment like you weren't

443
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 2: ready to see. And afterwards you heard all those Arkansas

444
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 2: folks talk about the pent up rage and the old

445
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 2: school energy that festered and festered and festered from what

446
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 2: historically the Arkansas Texas rivalry had been. And it just

447
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 2: bled out that night that would happen to Niland Stadium,

448
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 2: That would be Tennessee. They haven't been on equal footing

449
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 2: nowhere close when it comes to playing Alabama, So you

450
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 2: haven't witnessed it. But I imagine students at Tennessee For example,

451
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 2: people of that age, if you guys were undefeated when

452
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 2: Bama came to town, you would look around that place and

453
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 2: you would say, what is this like? Our volume knob

454
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 2: stops at ten, but it feels like a twelve in

455
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 2: here tonight. Why does it feel that way? Because they

456
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 2: would then find themselves in a place they haven't been

457
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 2: and and here's the phrase, quite literally a generation. Oh,

458
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 2: general Neelan, just close your ears, my friend. But yeah,

459
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 2: that's the case right now. So that would be big.

460
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Speaker 2: I'm calling that a six and a half. I don't

461
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 2: think it's the craziest thing in the world to suggest

462
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 2: Tennessee may be undefeated when that happens. And if they do,

463
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 2: spoiler alert, we'll be there. Next up, we're going all

464
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Speaker 2: the way to the West coast. Now this is interesting,

465
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: Jeff said. First year coach Dan Lanning wins the PAC

466
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 2: twelve over Lincoln Riley. So not only are we calling

467
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 2: the Ducks to win the PAC twelve, we're just flat

468
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 2: out talking about who they're gonna beat.

469
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Speaker 1: This one.

470
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 2: I gave a five. So let's break it down. Oregon

471
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 2: winning the PAC twelve is not at all crazy. Now

472
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: you're talking about predicting the exact matchup. That's a little

473
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 2: more out there. But if you're gonna pick someone from

474
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Speaker 2: the South, pick USC or pick Utah, will they pick

475
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: the USC. The folks at Fox would love this. I

476
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: would love this, and I don't even work at Fox.

477
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 2: But also, here's the flip side. Here's why this gets

478
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 2: a little crazy. You know, if these two teams were

479
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,719
Speaker 2: to play tomorrow, Oregon would be favored on a neutral field,

480
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 2: but that's not where this game would happen.

481
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Speaker 1: This game would happen at the end of the year.

482
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Speaker 2: Now, if USC is in the PAC twelve title game,

483
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 2: here's what that means.

484
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: It means it worked.

485
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 2: It being year one, Caleb Williams, quarterback Lincoln Riley, and

486
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: all the transfer portal editions, it worked. So whatever they

487
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 2: did in year one it clicked. Otherwise they wouldn't be there.

488
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 2: So if they're in the PAC twelve championship game, thus

489
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 2: meaning things worked, that's going to be a really formidable opponent.

490
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: And at that point, what I'm probably having to do

491
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: if I'm picking Orgon is I'm choosing bow Knicks over

492
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams. I have followed Bownicks for a while. I

493
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: have been burned investing in him in the past. Now

494
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 2: you want to sell me on the fact that he

495
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: just needed to change of scenery and they're going to

496
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 2: utilize him the right way at Oregon.

497
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Speaker 1: That's cool.

498
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 2: I have been sold that bill of goods, though not

499
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 2: the bow Knicks bill of goods, but the whole you know, bigger, faster, stronger,

500
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: new program, new sticker on the helmet sort of deal.

501
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 2: I've been sold that many times. That's why I'm very hesitant,

502
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: although I saw the same things that you guys did

503
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 2: in the spring game, still very hesitant to just believe

504
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,719
Speaker 2: that bo Nix and Oregon are going to be primed

505
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 2: to go on a PAC twelve championship run. But as

506
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: I've said since he was in high school, he possesses

507
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: the capability. That's never been the issue, never will be

508
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 2: the issue with him. It's just do they have the

509
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 2: right ingredients there this year? And if they were to

510
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,239
Speaker 2: run up on USC at the end of the year,

511
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: because they don't play him in the regular season, if

512
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: they run up on them in the PAC twelve championship game,

513
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 2: will that version of USC still be able to be

514
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 2: taken down by a bow Knicks led organ That's what

515
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 2: I have trouble with. That's why I made it a five.

516
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: Otherwise I could easily see Organ winning the Pac twelve.

517
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 2: Last one here, now, this one's going to sound bold,

518
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: but it's really not at all. Nebraska wins the Big

519
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:07,479
Speaker 2: Ten West.

520
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: Don't sleep on.

521
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 2: Scott Frost as the follow up there, Well, I'm drowsy

522
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: on Scott Frost. But let me tell you something. This

523
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: isn't even bold. There is no bold prediction in the

524
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: Big Ten West. So this is like a four for me.

525
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: Every season can be your season. You could have won

526
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 2: three games last year like they did.

527
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: Who cares? This could be your season.

528
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: They have the fifth best odds to win the Big

529
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 2: Ten this year, not the division. They have the fifth

530
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 2: best oss to just win the conference. They have the

531
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Speaker 2: second best odds therefore to win their division, right behind Wisconsin. Now,

532
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 2: to give you an idea of how wide the gap

533
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 2: is in the Big Ten, at least in terms of odds,

534
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: Ohio State I think is a one to two favorite

535
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: to win the Big Ten. Next up is Wisconsin at

536
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: ten to one, and you go down the list of

537
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: little ways in Nebraska's fourteen to one. So there perceptionally

538
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 2: is a big gap between Ohio State and everyone else.

539
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: I would agree with it. But we're not talking about

540
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 2: winning the Big Ten. We're talking about just playing for

541
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: the conference title, therefore winning your division. Look at the

542
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: murderer's row or light thereof that we're talking about. We're

543
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 2: talking about Iowa, We're talking about Wisconsin. We're talking about Minnesota, Purdue, Illinois, Nebraska,

544
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: and Northwestern. I know on paper it would look crazy

545
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 2: if you went from three to nine to whatever record.

546
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: It would require nine wins, maybe ten wins, in order

547
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 2: to make it to Indianapolis. I'm just telling you, knowing

548
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: what their margins of losses were last year. Casey Thompson

549
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: transfers in at quarterback. No, it is not that big

550
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: a leap. And if you have forgotten or you've been

551
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: tuned out right before we wrap it up here, not

552
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: the show, just the segment. Look at the graphic on

553
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: the screen. Look at those losses. The losses are by

554
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 2: eight points, and by seven points, and by three points

555
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: and by three points again or is that for US

556
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 2: three seven points five points, there's the nine point, there's

557
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: the blowout nine point loss.

558
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: Oh seven points.

559
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 2: Seven points ridiculous, So yes, that could happen. I could

560
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 2: absolutely see that. I give that one a four on

561
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 2: the boldness scale. I am probably enjoying those segments, probably

562
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 2: because you do the heavy lifting as much as anything

563
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: that we've done. Conway, Arkansas tuned in tonight. Thank you,

564
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: Saint Paul, Minnesota, rough Weather, stay safe and tuned in

565
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 2: and crandall Georgia.

566
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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for watching. Also, thank you

567
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: guys for being here live.

568
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about the live portion of our show,

569
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: and I have.

570
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: Some plans for rewarding people who watch the show live.

571
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: Don't care if you watch it the next day, just

572
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 2: maybe a little added bonus if you watch the show live.

573
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: So nothing for you yet, but don't worry. We are

574
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: thinking about that. Let's do a mood tracker tonight, shall we.

575
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the University of Georgia, your national champion

576
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 2: Georgia Bulldogs. I have found there are two types of

577
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: college football fan. I'm not talking about casuals and hardcores.

578
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,239
Speaker 2: IM talking about even amongst hardcore fans. Let's just lit

579
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: that into subsets. There's the fan that wins the title

580
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 2: and then they they're content, you know, So there are

581
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: probably two kinds of Georgia fans right now. One kind

582
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: of Georgia fan. They just won the title, and you

583
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: prop your feet up, put your hands on the back

584
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 2: of your head, pick out your cigar of choice, even

585
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: though half of you don't smoke cigars, and you just say,

586
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: we made it, and you did.

587
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: They can never take that thing away from you.

588
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 2: But then there's another kind of fan that wins the

589
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: title and their appetite only grows stronger. I'll tell you

590
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: what most of those have in common. The ones who

591
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: get content are usually the younger generation. Not all the time,

592
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: but it's usually the younger generation, Whereas the ones who

593
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: want to gobble up every possible win they can are

594
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: the older generation. Here's the difference. The older generation has

595
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: felt prolonged hunger. Not in the literal sense, hopefully, But

596
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: if you're a Georgia Bulldog fan, if you live in

597
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: Stone Mountain, Georgia, and you're sixty years old, your entire

598
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: life has been a drought.

599
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: You remember nineteen eighty, but man, it was a long

600
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: time ago. Now.

601
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: If you're seventeen years old, you've in your adolescence seen

602
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: Georgia rise to power and they played for one title

603
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: and now they won this title, and you probably, if

604
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: you didn't know any better, you think this is just

605
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: kind of the way it's supposed to be. You know,

606
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: ten or eleven win seasons, that's our baseline, right No,

607
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: historically no. And so here's what the more seasoned veterans

608
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: amongst your crew knows. You got to take every single

609
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: win you can get while you can get it, because

610
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: once the history books.

611
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,479
Speaker 1: Are written, they're written.

612
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: But right now it's kind of feeding frenzy mode chums

613
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: in the water. So you got a powerhouse program, You

614
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: got a coach there in the mid forties that, for

615
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: all you know, could be there another twenty years.

616
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: It's his alma mater.

617
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: You never have to worry about him being hired away

618
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: when everything you can possibly win. So the mood around

619
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: Georgia right now is room for seconds. They got a

620
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: taste of what being a champion is like that never

621
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: gets old, never gets old. So when Kirby Smart got

622
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: to Georgia, there there were some people who said, oh,

623
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: he's come here to win a championship. Plenty more of

624
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: them said he's come here to win championships with an

625
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: S on the end. Plural you don't stop at one.

626
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: No one's getting content down there. And the more you

627
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: think about it, the more you will agree with that

628
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: if you even were intent to begin with sustaining excellence.

629
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: Though it's so hard. He knows that this is not

630
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: some segment.

631
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: If Kirby turned on that, he'd go I never thought

632
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: about it that way, But man, it's hard. What I

633
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: am saying that form is not to temper any expectation.

634
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: I'm telling you there will be a perception with any

635
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: team that wins a championship that now that's the new baseline,

636
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 2: so to speak.

637
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: And so we got there.

638
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: And now even if we turn the car engine off,

639
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 2: you know, it's like going two hundred miles. The car

640
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: doesn't start going backwards when you turn it off. Well,

641
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: that metaphor does not apply to success at all. It's

642
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: like paying the rent every single day. You got to

643
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: pay it every single day, and if you don't pay it,

644
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: you go backwards. And Kirby smart knows that. He also

645
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: knows every team has a life of its own. So

646
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: a lot of the ingredients that were responsible for getting

647
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: to Atlanta, losing to Alabama, but then steamroll in Michigan

648
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: and then getting it done against Alabama those guys, some

649
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: of them are gone, and it's not just the talent.

650
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: In fact, Georgia, more so than almost any other program

651
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: in America, will have a disproportionately easier time replacing talent

652
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: the leadership. A lot of those guys were twenty one

653
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: to twenty two years old. They had been there forever.

654
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: The leadership. We've seen many championship programs before somewhat struggle.

655
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: Now Georgia is not going to eight win, struggle, but

656
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: somewhat struggle the following year.

657
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: Anyway.

658
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: The reason I say that is because moving forward now

659
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: you get into that realm where you have to reload

660
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: instead of rebuild.

661
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: They recruit in a manner that lets them do that.

662
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: But the biggest carrot on the stick for Georgia fans

663
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: right now is they know, and I'll tell you I

664
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: believe this too, the program hasn't maximized its capability. Kirby

665
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: smart knows this, his staff knows this. They just want

666
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: a title. This is how good they can be. They

667
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: just want a title. And they could rightfully do an

668
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: inventory of their program and find several areas they can improve,

669
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: not massively, but if you look at the quarterback position,

670
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: that's not as good as it can be at Georgia.

671
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: If you look at perimeter skill, if you look at

672
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: the wide receiver position, that's not as good as it

673
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: could possibly be.

674
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: At Georgia, I'd.

675
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: Even argue offensive line has not been as good as

676
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: it can be. It's been plenty good enough to be

677
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: one of the top overall teams and programs in the country.

678
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: But my point there is there's still room to climb.

679
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: Sometimes you end up winning the richest prize in your

680
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: industry and you haven't maximized your own potential.

681
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: Georgia just won a national championship.

682
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: I don't even think the program has maximized its own potential.

683
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: So that's got to be music to the years of

684
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: Georgia fans, especially because that's not my eyes.

685
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: That's truth.

686
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: If you watch Georgia offensively, there's no way you watch

687
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: them and say that's as good as it could ever

688
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: possibly be around here.

689
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: No, it's not. It was good enough. That's not as

690
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: good as it can be around there.

691
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: But also let's not ignore the shark fin that's always offshore.

692
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: When you have some success. We talk about it on

693
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: the show all the time. It's a blessing when you

694
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: get to speak this way about your program. The consequences

695
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: of success. You deal with them. Georgia will deal with them.

696
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: I want you to think back however long you can.

697
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: You can you go college football, you can go NFL,

698
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball. Think about teams and organizations that win

699
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: a championship, and then think about the stories you hear

700
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: years later about the follow.

701
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: Up efforts, not just the next year, but the year

702
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: after that, the year after that.

703
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: Think about all the cautionary tales about how success changed

704
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: a dynamic that is a consequence of success.

705
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: No one is an immune to it.

706
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a guarantee it's going to happen. It's a

707
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: guarantee that that stuff starts to creep in. Sabans dealt

708
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: with it, urban Meyer dealt with it, Kirby Smart will

709
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: deal with it. They all deal with it. There is

710
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 2: no cheap code, there's no magic alligxer. There's no amount

711
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 2: of motivational speeches you can give that changes the human condition.

712
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: And the human condition says, once I've accomplished something, things change,

713
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: And once I accomplish something, I've arrived, and it is

714
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: just human nature to let up. So that's what you

715
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: fight every day now. They have created I think a

716
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: very sustainable culture up there that mitigates that, but you're

717
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: never immune to it, and you also have different potential

718
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: problems that pop up that were.

719
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: Never an issue.

720
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: It was never even on your plate when you were

721
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: nine and three or ten and two. You get into

722
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 2: these waters. They're pretty uncharted in the modern era at Georgia.

723
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 2: You get into these waters, you start learning those kinds

724
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 2: of lessons and really what George's came capable of, they're

725
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 2: capable of being there every year. The only case study

726
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: in the sport right now is Alabama. Maybe to a

727
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: degree Clemson, but I think it's Alabama. I'm not talking

728
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 2: about copying them. I'm talking about if you look at

729
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: some of the issues they've had, if you listen to

730
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: some of the things we've said about Bama in the past.

731
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 2: There have been times they've played for a championship. I

732
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: vividly remember that twenty eighteen championship game against Clemson. They

733
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: got blown out. I remember thinking, how is this team

734
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,479
Speaker 2: playing for a title? Because it was a mess behind

735
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: the scenes, I mean all sorts of distractions. I think

736
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: that's probably one of Saban's least favorite groups. That he's

737
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: ever had team played for national title, So you never know.

738
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: My point is sometimes you can be so talented that

739
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: that alone gets you to a certain point, but yet

740
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 2: you still got issues behind the scenes that you were

741
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 2: never dealing with before you won big. So Kirby Smart

742
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: and Georgia just won big, they'll have those issues. One

743
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: of the fun things about this this sport is watching

744
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: guys elevate and watching how they.

745
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: Handle those consequences.

746
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: Once they've elevated to a certain point, that kind of

747
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: unlocks those consequences.

748
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this.

749
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: I was over on the Junkyard earlier today, over on

750
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: the Dogs twenty four to seven message board, and one

751
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 2: of you put it perfectly. You said, our rivals have

752
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: nothing left. Don't overlook that, especially in that state I'm from, Georgia,

753
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: especially in the state of Georgia where I'm from. For

754
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: a long time, they had that one bullet in the holdster,

755
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: even if you were beating them into a coma. Every year,

756
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 2: some fan bases around the SEC they had that one

757
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: go to and that is, well, we want a title

758
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: in ninety eight, or we want a title in twenty ten.

759
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: When's your last title? It's not there anymore. It's gone.

760
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: That is like a one million pound gorilla off of

761
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: your back if you're a Georgia fan down there, because

762
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 2: even though you pretended like it didn't eat at you,

763
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: it ate at you, especially if those were people in

764
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 2: your inner social circle.

765
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: Idate at you.

766
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 2: Well, they're very quiet now, aren't they. That's gone, never

767
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: coming back. Gonna be decades and decades before that ever

768
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 2: comes back. That's the Georgia mood tracker right now. It's

769
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: a very good time to be an Athens, Georgia and

770
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: be a Georgia Bulldog fan. Okay, let's dive into the

771
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: mail bag here because we have three that I want

772
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: to get to. And the first one, well, I'll just

773
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: read it and then i'll react. Phil asked, will the

774
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: Big Ten ever catch the SEC? From Altoona, PA. I

775
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: need to state this properly. The Big Ten's not hurting

776
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: at all, so ful, Phill, it was your question. I'm

777
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: not trying to reword your question, but the I guess

778
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: the better question would be will the rest of college

779
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: football catch up to the SEC and the Big Ten?

780
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: That would be a better structured question, but this is

781
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 2: not a grammar class. So Phil, you want to know

782
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: about this, and I'm gonna tell you there is a gap,

783
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: not a huge, wide one, but there is a little

784
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: gap here.

785
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: It. I think it has to do with a couple

786
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: of things.

787
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: So the first thing is they need in the Big

788
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 2: ten another Tier one program. What I'm going to say

789
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: now is going to be misconstrued, but I'm going to

790
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: say it anyway. Ohio State is the only Tier one

791
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: program in that conference, which should be common sense, but

792
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 2: the immediate go to for some will be, well, they

793
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: lost two games last year and they lost to Michigan

794
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: last year, So if their Tier one, Michigan's got to

795
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: be Tier one. That was a team last year. We're

796
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: talking about a program. A program is more than a

797
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: one year snapshot. That's what a team is.

798
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: Program is a rolling, three or four year conglomeration of

799
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 1: a whole lot of factors.

800
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: Ohio State is Tier one. No one else up there is.

801
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,479
Speaker 2: But there are a few Tier twos. So we're talking

802
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: about Michigan there, We're talking about Penn State, Michigan State

803
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: rapidly elevating. They need some of them, at least one

804
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 2: of them, to elevate to Tier one because you're automatically

805
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: working against Georgia and Bama, and then any given year

806
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: you could have Texas, A and M send to Tier

807
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 2: one status.

808
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: They're certainly recruiting that way.

809
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: LSU has been there within the last few years, although

810
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 2: I would argue that was a team more than a program.

811
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: But they are capable. The resources make them capable. Florida's

812
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: resources make them capable, believe it or not. Even Tennessee's

813
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 2: resources make them capable of that. You've got to fulfill

814
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: with your programs that are capable of that on that potential.

815
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: That's the first thing they need. The second thing they

816
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: need is.

817
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 2: That group of Nebraska and Iowa and Wisconsin. They've got

818
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: to I think leverage the transfer portal in very unique

819
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 2: ways because those are not programs that are going to

820
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: compete heads up recruiting, like they won't compete with Kentucky.

821
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 2: Those three programs, Nebraska, Iowa and Wisconsin will get smoked

822
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 2: in an average year by Kentucky in recruiting. They will

823
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: get handedly beaten by like eight or nine programs in

824
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: the SEC.

825
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: That's not the end of the world.

826
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: What they have to do is developed supremely well, which

827
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: they do, especially at two of those programs.

828
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: Right now. But also they.

829
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: Have to leverage the portal at the quarterback position, in

830
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: the wide receiver position. Take what you can't get out

831
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: of the high school ranks from the portal. However you

832
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 2: have to do it. If they can do that, then

833
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: you can be very sustainable. That can be a sustainable

834
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: model because you're not leaning on the portal to fill

835
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: out your entire roster. You've identified specific positions that we

836
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: need to really really target in the portal, which is

837
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: the way I don't doubt they're already doing it.

838
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: Number three is just portal quarterbacks in general.

839
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: Like at Penn State, they just got Drew Holler, So

840
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: hopefully this becomes a non issue. Hopefully a five star

841
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 2: quarterback walking in there in time does the same thing

842
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 2: for Penn State that Deshaun Watson did for Clemson, and

843
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 2: hopefully we never even have to talk about this again,

844
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 2: and that elevates Penn State to Tier one status. I'm

845
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: just talking about the conference in general. Unless you can

846
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 2: do what Ohio State can do in recruiting, you've kind

847
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 2: of got to pay a lot of attention to that portal.

848
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: And I know that's easy to say, it's a whole

849
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: lot harder to get a Caleb Williams out of the portal.

850
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it has to be a priority. You

851
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 2: don't have Florida athletes in your backyard. You don't have

852
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 2: California and Texas athletes in your backyard. But you've got

853
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: very attractive programs, very attractive brands. They are about to

854
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: double their overall revenue per year per university because of

855
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: this new TV rights deal. There will be no shortage.

856
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: You do it any way you have to do. But

857
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: those are the three things that I think would close

858
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: the gap between the Big Ten and the SEC. Having

859
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: already stated and will state one more time, that ain't

860
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: the gap. The gap is from the Big Ten behind

861
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: to the three, four and five.

862
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: Positions in Power five.

863
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: Next up, all right, this is what a lot of

864
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: you have been waiting for for quite a while. Joey

865
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: hits us up and said, who would you say is

866
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: the most underrated program in the country. I got two

867
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: of them, and I was going at it with one

868
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: of these fan bases earlier this week because they claim

869
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 2: that we never talk about him on the show, but

870
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: then we do Q and A every single week, multiple

871
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 2: times a week, so it stands to reason. If you

872
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: ask about him, maybe we'll talk about him. The Kentucky

873
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: Wildcats are one of the two most underrated programs in America,

874
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: not teams programs. Mark Stoops it could be said as

875
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: the best job in America because he makes SEC money,

876
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: but he has a fan base that is so totally

877
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: in tune with their place in the college football world.

878
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean they're happy losing. They don't lose. This

879
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: is not a losing program anymore. But they understand that

880
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: there are some limitations we work against. But at the

881
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: same time, we keep investing over investing over investing in

882
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: our program, so we keep elevating. But we also we

883
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: get it. We understand who we are. I don't think

884
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 2: that there is a program in the SEC more in

885
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 2: tune with its identity than Kentucky football fans. I know

886
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: that doesn't get a lot of national attention, but it's true.

887
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 2: Stoops has done an overly phenomenal job there. They've got

888
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: a couple of ten win seasons over the last few years.

889
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: But also I noticed this the other day, and it

890
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 2: just it has to be pointed out. They have that

891
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: program at a place now where the preseason win total

892
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: the over underwin total is.

893
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: Eight and a half.

894
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: That means Kentucky football now has to win nine games

895
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: just for the over to hit. There was a time

896
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: not too long ago, especially in the early portion of

897
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: the Stoops era and before, where if your total was

898
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 2: in the five or six range, that gave you hope

899
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: that you could make a bowl game, and it got

900
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: a lot of people excited. It's just a whole new

901
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: day for Kentucky football. They're totally secure in their identity.

902
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: They linearly progressed, especially after that first Stoops year. They

903
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 2: linearly progressed from twenty thirteen to twenty eighteen. He turned

904
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: that program around for from two to ten to ten

905
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 2: and three, and they improved every single year.

906
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: It was not an up and down thing.

907
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: And then they've stayed there and they recruit surprisingly well.

908
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: I think if if I were to put the top

909
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: twenty in no particular order in front of a random

910
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: fan from let's say Cody Wyoming, and I were to say, hey,

911
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: some SEC teams landed in the top twenty.

912
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: This year, why don't you guess them, they.

913
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: Would go like twelve or thirteen deep before they named Kentucky.

914
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 2: And yet there's Kentucky we're sitting there on National Signing

915
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 2: Day this past cycle and we're talking about Kentucky.

916
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: We will talk about them more because.

917
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: They continue to do things that warrant being talked about,

918
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: and that schedule this year sets up for some very

919
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: special things to potentially happen. I asked the question the

920
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: other day about Will Levis. There's some hype around Will

921
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: Levis the quarterback there right now.

922
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: And look, we don't.

923
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: Do Mott drafts on this show period, But forget about

924
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: the first overall projection stuff for a second because it

925
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: just it doesn't add anything to the conversation. Here's what

926
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 2: you need to know. You need to know Kentucky has

927
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 2: a guy with pro tools at quarterback. You need to

928
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,479
Speaker 2: know that while they lost Wandol Robinson, they have done

929
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: things to address that in the transfer market themselves. They

930
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: also have a proven philosophy. They also have proven productivity

931
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: and also the ability to develop guys there where. Just

932
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 2: because you don't know the names entering the season doesn't

933
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 2: mean they won't perform. But the schedule allows them, if

934
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: things fall right, to be in contention and be in

935
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: a conversation that you have not had Kentucky football in

936
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 2: in quite a while. Kentucky's one of the most underrated

937
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: programs in America, and the other one is in Stillwater, Oklahoma,

938
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: a town I was in like last week. Oklahoma State's incredible.

939
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: They never get talked about nationally. Oklahoma State. I had

940
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: to look this up to make sure it was true.

941
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 2: Someone texted me the step. Since two thousand and eight,

942
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,479
Speaker 2: that's a long time ago. Since two thousand and eight,

943
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: they only have two seasons where they have failed to

944
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 2: win at least eight games. They've got seven double digit

945
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: win seasons since two thousand and eight.

946
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: Seven.

947
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: I think Mike Gundhy Colin gave me the stack. Mike

948
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: Gundhy won Coach of the Year in like twenty ten

949
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 2: and twenty twenty. There was like a ten year span

950
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,479
Speaker 2: between him winning Coach of the year. He won double

951
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 2: digit games five times between winning Coach of the Year awards.

952
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 2: They're in the Big twelve. They're eleven and five in

953
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: bowl games. And then here's de Kapper. Because you could

954
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: do this if you recruited at a top ten level.

955
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 2: Every year, they average a signing class in the low

956
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: to mid thirties. That's their average ranking in recruiting. Nothing screams,

957
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: we know who we are, we know what we're doing.

958
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: Leave us alone more than averaging a nine or a

959
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: ten win season every year, being in the conversation in

960
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 2: the Big twelve Championship picture every single year.

961
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: And yeah, but.

962
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 2: You're never there on signing day. We're never talking about

963
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State on signing day. I picture Mike Gundy yawning

964
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: on signing day. Dude may not even come into the

965
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: office until like eleven thirty. He probably gets a quick

966
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: nine in while everyone else is sitting around huddled close

967
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: to a fax machine, partly because it gives off heat

968
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 2: that early in the morning, and partly because that's our

969
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: entire lifeline. The pieces of paper that come through that

970
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: fax machine, that is what will make or break us.

971
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: And Mike Gunn is like, I'll.

972
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: Just just send me whoever you have left over. We'll

973
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: go beat you with him, and we'll quietly be in

974
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: the Big twelve Championship picture. I'll go in, I'll make

975
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 2: five million dollars. The rest of you can make more.

976
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: It goes a long way and still water. Anyway, I'm

977
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: good Kentucky and Oklahoma State. Think about the hype that

978
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: several other programs out there. I'm thinking of one in Austin.

979
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: And I'm not knocking Texas. I kind of am, but

980
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it in a disrespectful way. I just

981
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 2: think about every year US coming into a season and

982
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 2: talking about the order of thing finish, and how tempted

983
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 2: you always seem to be to put that long horn

984
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 2: logo up above that Oklahoma State logo because you always

985
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: think about those signing classes. Texas hasn't if it pans out,

986
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: and if this, and if that, and it just it

987
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 2: almost never happens or hasn't in recent history. Oklahoma State

988
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: and Kentucky pate State material one and all. Last question,

989
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: And boy, this one got spirited today. Look at that

990
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: I have presented a question, so Josh, a friend of

991
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: the program, asks what is the best time zone for

992
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: college football.

993
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: Fans to reside in?

994
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 2: This led to a shockingly spirited debate today. And I'm

995
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: telling you, I fancy myself as sort of a chameleon

996
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 2: when it comes to this sort of thing. So I

997
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: don't think there's a wrong answer, And full disclosure, I

998
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: believe I would thrive in any of these environments. But

999
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: we had a lot of East Coast flavor early on

1000
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: the Eastern time zone is what I grew up in.

1001
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 2: I live in Central now, but the there is you

1002
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: can get things done in the morning. So think about

1003
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 2: your college football Saturday. If you're in the Eastern time zone,

1004
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 2: the first game's not kicking off until high noon. The

1005
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 2: entire structure of the day is formatted on Eastern time,

1006
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 2: so the first game kicks off a high noon. I

1007
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: used to be able to go to the gym and

1008
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: do things around town in the morning before getting back

1009
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 2: home for those noon kickoffs. That's the pro The con

1010
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 2: is you have to be a borderline serial killer to

1011
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 2: be able to stay up late enough to watch the

1012
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 2: conclusion of all the West Coast games. Some of those

1013
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 2: things don't wrap up till one thirty or two o'clock

1014
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: in the morning. And if you're going full degenerate gambler

1015
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: mode and you're letting it all ride on Hawaii, then

1016
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: it could be it could be sunrise before you finally

1017
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 2: have had hit pillow at night. But then you go

1018
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: over to the Central time zone where I live now,

1019
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: and I prefer the Central time zone to the Eastern

1020
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 2: time zone. I like what we have here because it's

1021
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: the same thing pretty much as Eastern, like if you

1022
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: get out of bed early enough, you can still get

1023
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 2: stuff done in the morning, but everything just seems to

1024
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: make you not wait as long. I cannot describe to

1025
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 2: you in thorough enough emphasis how different it is only

1026
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: having to wait to two thirty then having to wait

1027
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: to three thirty, or a game starting at six thirty

1028
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: instead of seven thirty. It makes all the difference in

1029
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 2: the world, And so you get an hour on the

1030
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 2: back end of your day, so hopefully things are ending

1031
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 2: at midnight instead of one or two. Central is better

1032
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 2: to me than Eastern, although I have lived in both

1033
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 2: and I have managed. But then you get to the

1034
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 2: Mountain time zone. One of you was emphatic in your

1035
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 2: suggestion that this is the best time zone because it

1036
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: gave you essentially flexibility on both ends of the social spectrum.

1037
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: So if you're one that wants to go out a

1038
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: little bit later, if you can afford to sacrifice the

1039
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 2: late games, your day is free by like four or five.

1040
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: But even if you want a piece of the night games,

1041
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: they're wrapping up before midnight. They're wrapping up by eleven

1042
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 2: eleven fifteen. But also the early game start at ten am,

1043
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,479
Speaker 2: which means you have sort of that in between mode there,

1044
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 2: but you have for the early risers enough time to

1045
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 2: do stuff.

1046
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: But also if you just prefer to wake up and

1047
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: let college.

1048
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 2: Football be your alarm clock, you can get straight out

1049
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: of bed, sleep in, and then nine point thirty get

1050
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 2: your quick breakfast boom ten am. The noon kickoffs are

1051
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 2: happening on the East Coast. But I was doing radio

1052
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 2: in Portland this morning. Well it was early morning for them,

1053
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: it was later morning for me, and they sold me

1054
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: pretty significantly.

1055
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: On the West Coast lifestyle.

1056
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: Now, that is a nine am kickoff for the first

1057
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: window of games, and that's a turnof for a lot

1058
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 2: of people, and certainly it would take some adjusting, but

1059
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: I'm up early anyway.

1060
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: What appeals to me is the back end. What appeals to.

1061
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 2: Me is having things done by nine or ten o'clock

1062
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: somewhere in that range. But also if there are games

1063
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: still going on that late, it's your game, so you're

1064
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: not all engaged in your game earlier in the day

1065
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: and you're watching stuff that maybe is you know, half

1066
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: a world away from your emotion. If you're on the

1067
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: West Coast, the games that those of us in the

1068
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 2: Eastern and centraltimes.

1069
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: Do stay up late to watch are your games.

1070
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: So if you're like an Arizona Arizona State fan, UCLA fan,

1071
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 2: well it doesn't matter how late you're staying up, because

1072
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 2: it's the game that you were gonna watch even if

1073
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 2: it was three am. But the last point I want

1074
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 2: to make because we've got a viewer who lives in

1075
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: Maui and was sharing this with me the other day,

1076
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 2: because I never thought about this.

1077
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: Some of you live in Hawaii.

1078
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 2: The Hawaiian lifestyle when it comes to college football has

1079
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 2: to be amazing. Think about this if you were in Tacoa, Georgia,

1080
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 2: think about the Hawaiian lifestyle. The Hawaiian college football fan

1081
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 2: takes a six am kickoff.

1082
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: For the noon games on the East Coast.

1083
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 2: They then get into the second window and McDonald's is

1084
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: still serving breakfast, and then the eight games start in

1085
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 2: the very very early afternoon and they're.

1086
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: Done by four or five o'clock. They're done.

1087
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Speaker 2: The sun has not set and all of college football

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Speaker 2: is done. So think about watching an entire day, including

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Speaker 2: the late games, and then heading out for dinner, not

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Speaker 2: even a late dinner, just dinner. I would not get

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Speaker 2: used to that in year one, but if I moved

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Speaker 2: out there by year two, I think I would swear

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Speaker 2: by the Hawaiian viewership experience. Oh and also I hear

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Speaker 2: the scenery is pretty good, and I probably would just

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Speaker 2: never come back, maybe if one of you leased some

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Speaker 2: private aviation to me.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise I would never run back.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys being tuned in. Look, one hundred

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Speaker 2: thousand subs, that's what we need. Subscribe and then we

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Speaker 2: can all unlock the surprise together. Producer Jesse not Here

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Speaker 2: gets zero credit for tonight's.

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Speaker 1: Show, although he has a place in.

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Speaker 2: An arts his reporting a vacation for director Colin. For

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Speaker 2: our production executives, I'm Josh Bate. Have yourselves a great

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Speaker 2: start to your weekend, and God bless