1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain stuff from how Stuff Works. Hey there, 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: brain stuff Lauren vogelbam here. Recently, California state legislators made 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: headlines threatening to cut off tax payments to the federal 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: government in response to President Donald Trump's executive order punishing 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: so called sanctuary cities whose police forces do not hand 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: over illegal immigrants to the federal authorities. California is one 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: of about fourteen donor states where residents pay far more 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: in federal taxes than they get back in federal aid 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: and contracts. While Californians are unlikely to commit mass tax evasion, 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: it does bring up the question of why some states 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: are more dependent on federal money than others. Joseph Henchman 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: is vice president of Legal and State Projects at the 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: Tax Foundation, a nonpartisan organization dedicated to tax policy. He 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: explained that there are several factors that affect how much 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: bang each state gets for its tax buck. He said, 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: on the revenue side, the biggest driver is the federal 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: income tax, which is a very progressive since them. This 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: refers to the fact that earners are taxed at higher 19 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: rates as their income increases. He continued, so in places 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: with higher incomes California and New York. They're putting a 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: lot more into the system. On the spending side, there 22 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,639 Speaker 1: are a lot of federal programs to help low income people, 23 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: so if your state has a lot of low income people, 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: you tend to be a net recipient. Back in two 25 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 1: thousand five, the Tax Foundation published the very first state 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: by state comparison showing how many federal dollars each state 27 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: receives for every dollar paid in federal taxes. At the time, 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,279 Speaker 1: New Jersey was the most generous donor state, paying nine thousand, 29 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: nine hundred and two dollars in federal taxes per resident 30 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: and only getting back six thousand, seven hundred and forty 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: dollars in federal spending. That's sixty one cents for every 32 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: tax dollar. Nevada was the second big donor, mostly because 33 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: of taxes on casinos, followed by Connecticut, where it's high 34 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: earning residents got back just sixty nine cents on their 35 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: federal tax dollar. The biggest recipient state in two thousand 36 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: five was New mex Go, where taxpayers got a too 37 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: for one special, receiving two dollars and three cents in 38 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: federal spending for every dollar they paid in federal taxes. 39 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: In addition to having one of the highest poverty levels 40 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: of any state, New Mexico is also home to huge 41 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: government run nuclear facilities, large military bases, and lots of 42 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: federally owned land. The other top recipient states were Mississippi, 43 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: with its large low income population, and Alaska, whose small 44 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: population numbers and long history of Washington d C earmarks 45 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: resulted in nearly fourteen thousand dollars in federal spending per 46 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: resident compared with five thousand, four hundred dollars in taxes paid. 47 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: Wallet Hub ran the numbers again in twenty six and 48 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: found most states in roughly the same spots, with large 49 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: swaths of the Deep South perceiving far more federal dollars 50 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: per capita than New England and California. Overall, Kentucky, Mississippi, 51 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: and New Mexico were the most dependent on federal funds, 52 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: and Delaware, Minnesota, and New Jersey were the least. Much 53 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: has been made of the fact that red states states 54 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: the typically vote Republican, received far more federal dollars per 55 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: capita than blue states states that typically vote Democrat, even 56 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: though Republicans strongly advocate for a smaller federal government. And 57 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: cuts to entitlement programs in while it hubs analysis, wherein 58 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: lower ranks I mean the state is more dependent on 59 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: the federal government. States that went read in twelve had 60 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: an average dependency rank of seventeen point thirteen, while blue 61 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: states averaged thirty three point twenty three. When the Tax 62 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: Foundation looked specifically at how much a state's total revenue 63 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: came from federal grants and aid, the numbers were pretty stark. 64 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: Both Mississippi and Louisiana relied on federal aid for more 65 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: than forty percent of their general revenue. Tennessee, Montana in 66 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: Kentucky came in just under all are read states. Sources 67 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: of grants in aid include medicaid, transportation money, law enforcement grants, 68 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: housing grants, anything. John Henchman said, where the Fed Government 69 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: is cutting a check to the state government to then 70 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: transfer it to recipients, there isn't a formula on how 71 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: much federal money each state gets. Henchman points out that 72 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: more than of the federal budget comprises Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, 73 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: social programs like food stamps, and defense spending. Social Security 74 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: is technically a trust fund and not aid. The rest 75 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: of the money allocated to a state depends on the 76 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: income of the people living there, whether military bases or 77 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: defense contractors are located there, plus how good its politicians 78 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: are at bringing home The proverbial pork of federal revenue 79 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: comes from income tax and payroll taxes. Henchman is a 80 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: Californian himself and understands why his neighbors grumble about subsidizing 81 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: federal aid programs and other states. For one thing, large 82 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: amounts of federal spending allow red state governments to keep 83 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: their taxes artificially low. The highest individual state income tax 84 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: rate in Mississippi and Alabama in sixteen was five percent, 85 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: while top earners in California and New York paid thirteen 86 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: point three percent and eight point eight two percent, respectively. 87 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: Part of the problem is a far off federal government 88 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: trying to legislate one size fits all solutions in states 89 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: and localities with different needs, and some argue this redistribution 90 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: helps to level the playing field for all citizens, regardless 91 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: of which state they live in. Today's episode was written 92 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: by Dave Ruse and produced by Tristan McNiel. 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