1 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Food Stuff. I'm any Ries and 2 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: I'm Lauren Folkum and our topic today is juice cleanses. Yes, 3 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: as producer Noel said when we told him the topic, juicy, Yeah, 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: I know. I can't believe we didn't think of that 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: or pun game is just off? Yeah, if if you 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: guys would participate in a pun contest, if we if 7 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: we had one, let us know, yeah, because that might 8 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: be something we're very excited to watch. But let us 9 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: let you know about juice cleanses. Yes, well, let's start 10 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: like we usually do. What is a juice cleans In 11 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: case you have never heard of this thing, it's it's 12 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: a it's an idea of like you're living off of 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: fresh fruit and vegetable juices and water for a set 14 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: amount of time in order to detox your body. That 15 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: was heavy quotes, La extremely heavy quotes, but you could 16 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: feel them from your seat. The goals here are to 17 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 1: lose weight, gain energy, and have a whole other host 18 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: of medical benefits from being detoxed. I guess supposedly. Yeah, 19 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: some juices, some juice cleanses rather do also contain vegetable 20 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: derived fats and proteins from stuff like nut milks and 21 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: hemp seeds, which is relatively new, a relatively new thing 22 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: in the juice game. Um. Some popular current variants are 23 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: the Master cleans. Might have heard of this, Yeah, that 24 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: was the first one I remember hearing about. I seem 25 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: to remember it in the context of Beyonce doing it. Uh. 26 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: And this is like a ten day ten days and 27 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: lemon juice, cayenne pepper for cake, and maple syrup. And 28 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: that's it. Okay, I I mean that. I mean that 29 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: actually sounds like a lovely drink. I would I might 30 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: like put gin in that and consume it for fun. 31 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 1: But there's not a bar somewhere that as the master cleanse. 32 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: And it's that with it, then you need to up 33 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: your game. Bar. Another popular one is the alkaline cleans. 34 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: This one you eat quote alkaline promoting foods, which supposedly 35 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: is herbal teas and alkaline water. Uh. And you do 36 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: this to balance your pH um. We'll talk about the 37 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: science or maybe not the science of that later on. Okay, 38 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: So that's the basic idea. How does this make you feel? 39 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: Not great? Uh? Maybe this is the point in the 40 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: podcast where I admit I have, Oh you have not 41 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: really kind of. It's fascinating. I didn't do the traditional 42 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: like you pay in and you get the like fancy 43 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: juices in a box, and I didn't get the instructions 44 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: I did. Uh, this test might not be the right word. 45 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: A diet where you eliminate a lot of foods to 46 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: check yourself by reintroducing those foods. You have food allue 47 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: and it comes with a three day liquid diet. And 48 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: it was terrible. I was I was eating food, but 49 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: it was very bland food and not much. It was 50 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: mostly like drinking and you were supposed to primarily avoid 51 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: salt and sugar. Um. And in my case, I experienced 52 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: just terrible pain. It kept me up at night. It's 53 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: like cramping and the muscles and definitely the caffeine headache. 54 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: And you do get you feel like really dizzy and 55 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: like not even like you're in reality anymore. Anyway, that 56 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: was my experience. Generally, he quote symptoms, if you can 57 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: call that, of a typical three day clans go something 58 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: like this. Day one, cravings, low energy, sluggishness, Day two, 59 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: the so called honeymoon day. I did not experience this, 60 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: but apparently a lot of people do. UM. They report 61 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: having more energy feeling lighter, almost like a high. Um again, 62 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: unless you drink caffeine, and then you won't report that 63 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: because you're gonna be having caffeine hed ache. Um. And 64 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: then day three back to increased cravings and obsession about 65 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: what you'll be eating the next day. That's not an 66 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: unusual occurrence for me, Like, like, obsession about what I'm 67 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: going to be eating the next day is basically just 68 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: what I do. Yeah, that's true. Actually, I obsess about 69 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: like becoming meal and i' I've heard a lot about that, 70 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: that that honeymoon day kind of thing, that that feeling energized, 71 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: and I mean that's kind of what they're selling you. 72 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: I feel like when when they're selling you on a 73 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,559 Speaker 1: lot of these cleanses, they're they're like, oh, you'll feel 74 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 1: so much better. You'll you'll know that it's working because 75 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: you'll feel amazing. Speaking of selling you as designer juice, 76 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: not like regular juice, not like o J right, but 77 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: designer juices like these had become a five billion dollar 78 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: industry and was projected to grow forward to eight percent 79 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: every year. So this is a cultural phenomenon. Yeah, that 80 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: is a lot of juice clenzing happening. It's kind of 81 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: a weird thing, but it has been around, or at 82 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: least the idea of cleansing yourself, detoxing yourself renewal has 83 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: been around for a long time. Most religions have some 84 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: aspect of fasting and fenzing um. If you look at 85 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: the Hebrew word for fasting psalm, which loosely translates to 86 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: quote to afflict the soul, and to this day fasting 87 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 1: or cleansing, our juicing has an association with fresh starts renewal. 88 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 1: It's that thing you do New Year's resolution time, along 89 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: with renewing your gym membership. Yeah, it's kind of like 90 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: your resetting. The first written records we have of a 91 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: juice dates back to somewhere in the to seventy BC, 92 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: when the Dead Sea Scrolls prescribed a quote pounded mash 93 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: of pomegranate and fig which supposedly would grant you quote 94 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: profound strength and subtle forms. Sub I am very intrigued 95 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: by subtle form. I don't have it, whatever it is, 96 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: but I want it. Another thing that we have ancient 97 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: records of our as Annie was saying earlier, these highly 98 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: controlled and limited diets that are meant to purify, usually 99 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: part of like religious mindfulness UM, which is sometimes called asceticism, 100 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: which is the practice of abstinence from physical or otherwise 101 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: earthly pleasures. And this is super widespread culturally speaking. I 102 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: think of the stories that we have of the founding 103 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: figures of various religions, all reaching enlightenment during or perhaps 104 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: after a long period of fasting. You've got Moses, Jesus, Mohammed, 105 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: Buddha UM. There there are traditions of monks and nuns 106 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: and other humans of varying titles and levels of lifetime 107 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: religious devotion UM in Abrahamic religions, Hindu and Buddhism, all 108 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: practicing ritualized self deprivation UM. And this practice has been 109 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: going back for thousands of years. Variations on these practices, 110 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: of course filter down to the common people as well 111 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: and continue into modern time. You've got Lent, Young, Kapoor, Ramadan, 112 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: Mahashi Rat, the fast Sunday and so on and so forth. Yeah, 113 00:07:54,800 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: but back to juice. Juice. Yes, for as long as 114 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: it's been around, juice has had this kind of reputation 115 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: of being that curative thing that we think of it today, 116 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: both in general and for all kinds of specific and 117 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: often very strange things. Um. During World War One, physicians 118 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: would rub antiseptic garlic juice into soldiers wounds, which sounds 119 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: so painful and at the very least unpleasant to smell. Yeah, 120 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: and I'm sure the smell situation was not great in general. Yes, um. 121 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: Side note from that, a lot of listeners have written 122 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: in asking us to look into the anti fungal properties 123 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: of garlic, and that's definitely something we're going to talk about. 124 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. This isn't a practice based on absolutely 125 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: no science whatsoever. It would probably help out, just oh yeah, um. 126 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: Smearing your chest with onion juice was used as a 127 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: congestion remedy in the Bombas and during the sixteenth century. 128 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: If you were a balding fella, you might rub some 129 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: onion juice on your head and go stand in the 130 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: sun to try to encourage your hair follicles to grow. 131 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: This is based on a Dare think. So, I don't know, 132 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: that's that's not a science fact. That's a Lauren fact. 133 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: That's that's a different I'm like in my head, Cannon, 134 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: that's absolutely It was just one guy was like, I 135 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: bet I can trick Dave over there to go and 136 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: stand in the sun juice, good old stinky head Dave 137 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: on the more substantiated science wise into the scale sailors 138 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: used to drink lemon juice to prevent scurvy. Sure, yeah, 139 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: that's that's legit. Going back to less science and very 140 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: gross territory. In eighteen seventy threes, a brief history of 141 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: the production of Valentine's Meat Juice. Valentine's Meat Juice. Doesn't 142 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: it sound so appetizing? No, that's not. It's uh. This 143 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: book chronicled the production and bottling of meat juice by 144 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: man S. Valentine. And it's just what you would think 145 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: it is. It's all the blood and other miscellaneous juice 146 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: that can be distracted from raw beef, raw beef, not 147 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: cook Okay, yeah raw. And I read part of the 148 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: description and it had like bits floating in it. The 149 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: smell was horrendous, but that didn't matter, because supposedly this 150 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: shoice could care whatever could be ailing you from constipation 151 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: to nausea if you could swallow it with that peak. Sure, 152 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: which seemed to be a problem given the formentioned smell. Yeah, 153 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: if you were depressed, you could also try meat juice 154 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: as an enemas for depression that would help. Okay, at 155 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: least one doctor, actual medical doctor and actual medical doctor, 156 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: doctor J. B. McCaw testified in supportive meat juice, saying 157 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: it worked in the most obstinate cases. Okay. So, so 158 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: what we're looking at is is by the late eighteen hundreds, 159 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: along with a wave of other health crazes, a lot 160 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: of people were in on this juicing idea, including a 161 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: lot of religious leaders. Right, and we are approaching my 162 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: personal huh moment of the episode. One of the best 163 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: examples of this is Thomas Bromwell Welch. Welch is it 164 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: could it be that Welch who in eighteen sixty nine 165 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: saw a business opportunity in religious people who were morally 166 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: opposed post to drinking alcohol, and so when they were 167 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: offered wine during communion, they had a moral dilemma. Yeah, So, 168 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: enterprising fellow that he was, Welch started selling quote, unfermented 169 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: sacramental wine, which is just a very fancy way of 170 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: saying grape juice. Yeah, that's not that's not what wine means. 171 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: What part of the definition of wine is that it's fermented. 172 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: So okay, but he started selling this he did under 173 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: his side company Dr. Welch's Grape Juice, but he ran 174 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: into a problem where he couldn't find a way to 175 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: market it and in four years was out of business 176 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: until his son, Charles Edgar stepped in and he dropped 177 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: the doctor from the company name to make it the 178 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: more efficient, streamlined Welch's Grape Juice and started running ads 179 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: in magazines like Good Housekeeping and Cosmopolitan and claiming that 180 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: this miracle juice could cure quote all forms of chronic 181 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: diseases except diabetes and militis all forms except diabetes. Yeah. 182 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: Welch even founded two pamphlets doubting his products benefits, and 183 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: he slammed alcohol. He even went so far as to 184 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: modify the popular anti alcohol slogan quote the lips that 185 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: touch wine will never touch mine to quote the lips 186 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: that touch Wilches are all that will touch mine. Lets 187 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: a rhyme. But but I guess you see where he 188 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: was going. Yeah, I see what he was trying to 189 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: do there. Uh. And he took his success to the 190 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: Colombian Exposition in Chicago, where thousands of people sample is juice, 191 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: and this moment here is often cited as the birth 192 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: of the American fruit cheese industry. This this Charles Edgar 193 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: was reportedly also involved with the burgeoning health spa craze 194 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: of the early nine hundreds. UM. One particular medical practitioner, 195 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: Dr John Harvey Kellogg, ran an infamous institution called the 196 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: Battle Creek Sanitarium at the time. Kellogg and yes he 197 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: is that. Kellogg was obsessed with purity in the diet, gut, 198 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: and your sex life. He prescribed the general mutilation to 199 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: prevent masturbation. You know, he was probably a terrible person. 200 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: Check out our yogurt episode for more about that. But yeah, 201 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: Charles Edgar supposedly visited Battle Creek thirty two times during 202 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: his grape juice reign. Also grape juice reign purple rain 203 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: joke here, somebody write it for us. Um. But but yeah, this, this, 204 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: this Welch's grape juice thing became so big. Richard Wilson's 205 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: Secretary of State, William Jennings Bryan starved Welch's grape juice 206 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: at a dinner for British Ambassador James Bryce, and when 207 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: alcohol was banned on maybe ships in nineteen fourteen, Welch's 208 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: was served instead. Yeah. But Contrary to what you might think, UM, 209 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: prohibition was not a boon for Welch's grape juice because 210 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: big soda had entered the market. Yeah. Yeah, if you 211 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: didn't if you didn't want your alcohol, you could have 212 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: soda our grape juice or so. Uh. And after Charles 213 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: Welts died in it wasn't until nineteen that Jacob M. 214 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: Kaplan bought it and then it passed hands again in 215 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: nine four to the National Grape Cooperative Association. Uh. And yeah, 216 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: like I said, Welch's is still around and going pretty strong, 217 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: with an estimated eighty two million dollars in profits and 218 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: another house stuff works and water cooler moment. I brought 219 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: this up with one of our coworkers and he said 220 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: that that's still what served when he goes to communion 221 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: this day, is scrape juice. Yeah, I think I think 222 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: I I think I was there for that conversation. Either 223 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: that or I had a separate conversation with some of 224 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: that scrape juice. I'm not sure which. There's another juice 225 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: that we have to mention. Of course, orange juice and 226 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: orange juice kind of sort of got in on this 227 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: same health action. UM. And one of the biggest proponents 228 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: of orange juice uh as like this healthy thing that 229 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: you should try comes from Elmer McCullum. Elmer McCullum. Ye 230 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: and great name, so many good names when we do 231 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: this research. He was dubbed Dr Vitamin also awesome, great 232 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: name in nine two by Time magazine, and Dr Vitamin 233 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: caused a panic over acidosis. Acidosis sounds horrible. It was 234 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: supposedly caused by eating too much meat, dairy, and bread, 235 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: but was easily fixed by upping your intake citrus and lettuce. 236 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: Sun Kissed in particular, capitalized on Dr Vitamin's words. In 237 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: between nineteen fifty and nine, consumption of orange juice tripled, 238 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: which translated to about twenty pounds down per year by 239 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: the average American. Oh my goodness. Yea, and orange juice 240 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: continue to have pretty solid growth. That is so much 241 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: orange juice. Okay, So that's kind of our quick primer 242 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: on the history of the the commercial aspects of juice 243 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: and uh and and a little bit about the religious 244 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: background of it. But what about choicing and like juice cleanses, 245 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: what about it? Yeah, what about it? We'll tell you 246 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: all about it after the short word from our sponsor. Okay, 247 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: we'll back, thank you sponsor. Um okay, so juicing, yes, 248 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: juicing enter German scientists Max Garrison and British businessman Norman Walker. 249 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: Garrison wrote a cancer Therapy Results of fifty Cases book 250 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: in which he espoused the curative power of replacing medicine 251 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: with three plant based no studium meals and thirteen glasses 252 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: of carrot, apple juices or green juices if you're looking 253 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: for a little variety. And all of this was to 254 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: be made with the freshness of produce, and this therapy 255 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: came to be known as the Garrison therapy. And none 256 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: of this would have been possible without Norman Walker's invention 257 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: of the Walker juicer and nineteen thirty six which I 258 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: looked up still buy, not the model, but you know 259 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: modern day model um which at the time I was 260 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,719 Speaker 1: going to run you two thousand, five hundred dollars that 261 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: the old to ninety six one today's equivalent of the 262 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: said two thousand five goodness, accounting for accounting for inflation, 263 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: that's that's quite expensive. Yeah, that's not cheap at all. 264 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: And he Walker, of course promoted eating what he called 265 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: living food, raw vegetables and juices, that you made with 266 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: his juicer obviously you know, sure, of course, um this 267 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: juicer set off a chain of juicers. The first massacating juicer, 268 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: The Champion, arrived in nineteen fifty five. Jack Lelane's Power 269 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: Juicer debut in nineteen seventy one, Ja Cordex The Juice Man, 270 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: and this is what my mom used, hit the market, 271 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: selling two million units between nine and I did love 272 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: that juicer. All we did was literally, I'm pretty sure 273 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: all we ever made with it was fresh orange strawberry juice. 274 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: And it was so but that sounds lovely. It was 275 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: so delicious, I believe you. And is when juicing really 276 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: came into its own, into what we think of it today. 277 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: And this is largely thanks to the efforts of scientology 278 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: entrepreneur Peter Glickman, who pushed the Master Clans yep, that 279 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: Master Cleans that was then used by so many celebrities 280 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: from Beyonce except before to to mean more and Ashton Kutcher. 281 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: I missed this cultural moment, but apparently they were like 282 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: tweeting about ever. Everyone was talking about it. It was 283 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: it was all in all of the entertainment magazines, okay, 284 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: and the great thing for people pushing this clans is 285 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: that all the horrible things you're probably going to experience 286 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: doing it, you know, the vomiting, the diarrhea. I mean 287 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: that you're just expelling all those nasty toxins and it's 288 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: totally working. The miseries. It's all part of the plan. Yeah. Uh. 289 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: And juicing continued to grow in the early two thousand's 290 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: UM with so so many um, mostly female celebrities backing 291 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: various brands and and this is also when the expense 292 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: of it started to become very impressive. Indeed, rather than 293 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: just reducing your own cleanses at home, you could you 294 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: could pay anything from sixty five dollars a day to 295 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: a hundred dollars a day for a three day cleanse. 296 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: I can't imagine, like, what are you getting for a 297 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: hundred dollars a day. I think you get like a coach. Maybe. 298 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: I can't imagine spending two hundred bucks a day on food, period, 299 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 1: And I think that and I can imagine spending a 300 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: lot of money off that's true. Yeah, that is a 301 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: very good point. Uh. This is also when UM some 302 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 1: cleanses started featuring more proteins, introducing those nut based juices umut, 303 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: pushing the calorie count up to a super whopping thousand, 304 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: two hundred calorie reason some instances, My golly, so many calories. 305 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: Twelve hundred calories. That's not that many calories, no sarcasm. 306 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: In the two thousand tens, juicing as a lifestyles popularity 307 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: started to wane. Um. Even Cosmopolitan, who was one of 308 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: the first like high praise singers singers of my praise 309 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: of juice cleanses r in an article in sixteen titled 310 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: why your detox is, citing the price point and the 311 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: lack of scientific evidence. And this is Cosmopolitan, you guys. Still, 312 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: the cold press juice market was valued around a hundred 313 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: million a year according to Only Times, And like we 314 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: said the top of the podcast, it's like a billions 315 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: specialized juice, specialized juice designer juice designer juice. That's what 316 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: you said. Um. But so, speaking of the type of 317 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: lack of scientific evidence that Cosmopolitan and other publications have 318 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: been talking about, uh, let's talk about it too. Okay. So, 319 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: for the premise of a detoxt work, the first thing 320 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna need are toxins to get rid of. Okay, 321 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 1: and toxins do exist. Yes, they do. UM A lot 322 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: of examples when I was looking into this, Uh, they 323 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: used a set of medifin are pesticides. But unless you're 324 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: exposed to large quantities of them, your body and in 325 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: particular your kidneys and liver and liver are pretty good 326 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: at flushing these sex and saut It's kind of what 327 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: they do. It's literally their job. But they're there for 328 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: in the case of a large dose exposure, you're gonna 329 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: have some pretty specific, terrible symptoms and juice is not 330 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: going to help you out. No, you're gonna want to 331 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: go to the doctor, to a doctor for that one. 332 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: The medical professional. You will know when it happens, and 333 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: your first thought will not be juice. I I must 334 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: get the nut milk. If you're taking um juicing a 335 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: step further and getting a colonic, you're risking bowel preparation, 336 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: intestinal parasites, and even heart failure. Where does this idea 337 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: of of detoxing come from. Yeah, the The modern day 338 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: idea of detoxing in the US dates back to the 339 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: early nineteen hundreds, with advocates claiming quote, intestinal sluggishness causes 340 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: intestinal contents to putrify. Toxins are absorbed and chronic poisoning 341 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: of the body results in quote, and this is according 342 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: to quack watch dot org that I wonder what our 343 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: body Kellogg would have thought about juice cleanses It probably 344 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: would have been on board. Um. And all of this 345 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: ties into something that we're probably going to wind up 346 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: discussing a lot on this our food stuff show, which 347 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: is the morality that's assigned to health. And by health 348 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: I mean weight, and by weight I mean disproportionately when weight. 349 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 1: We're coming for you, Dr Graham. I can't wait to 350 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: do that episode. Hoof yes that Graham. Yes. Uh. Some 351 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: some researchers say that juice cleanses um, if not exactly 352 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: being disordered eating, are a gateway to eating disorders. Case 353 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: studies of this have have reportedly been observed. And also 354 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: insert most juices have way too much sugar, like fifty 355 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: grams in one bottle. That's more than Coca cola. Thank 356 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: you your gra episode. And then let's let's let's let's 357 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: look at another claim frequently made by juice cleanses um. 358 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: It'll grab up your metabolism, yeah, which means weight loss. Right, No, 359 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: not really not really, Uh, you probably will lose weight 360 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: on a juice clans, but it's because you're subsisting on 361 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: very low calorie diet and essentially starving yourself, which also 362 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: explained the lightheaded headedness and dizziness, the feeling of being high. 363 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: We talked about our earlier um again. Supporters of things 364 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: like the Master Clans claim that this is all part 365 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: of the process of the toxins flooding out of your body. 366 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: But they're actually probably symptoms of an extremely restricted calorie 367 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: diet and or starvation. Yeah, that's catosis. That's uh, your 368 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: body really wanting you to eat something, so you're just 369 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: amped as all heck because your body is like please, 370 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: please food and he where's the food I want? I'm 371 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: looking for the food. And as far as kickstarting your metabolism, 372 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: if anything, it's going to put you in a starvation 373 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: mode which depresses your metabolism, which is basically uh, which 374 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: which basically is what happens when your body isn't sure 375 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: when it's going to get more food, so it slows 376 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: all of your processing systems down. When this happens too often, 377 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: by the way, the changes can become permanent. So that's 378 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: not what you want. Well, okay, actually, side note um, 379 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: the speed of your metabolism is dependent on a whole 380 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: lot of things, including your age, sex, hor known levels, 381 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: stress levels, sleeping habits, genetics, physical activity, and your incoming nutrients. 382 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: And and talk talk about slow versus fast metabolism is 383 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: generally more marketing hype than actual science. Fact. Yes, there 384 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: are a couple of diseases that can cause weight gain 385 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: due to extremely slowed metabolism, like hyperthyroidism and Cushing syndrome. 386 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: And yes, making your body burn more energy than you 387 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: take in through food will lead to weight loss, but 388 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: that's making your metabolism work harder, not faster. Your Your 389 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: metabolism doesn't need to be kickstarted or sped up. It's 390 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: it's working all the time. If you are just looking 391 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: to lose weight with the juice clans, you probably won't 392 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: keep it off. Um because when you put your body 393 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: into starvation mode, as we were saying, it starts breaking 394 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: down its glycemic stores UM, a byproduct of which is 395 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: that you start to excrete a whole bunch of water. 396 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: So what you're losing is water weight. UM. When you 397 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: return to a more usual diet with an appropriate number 398 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: of calories, your body is going to start rebuilding those 399 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: glycenic stores, which will cause water weight gain again. Yeah, 400 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: so if you were going in in your main goal 401 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: is to lose weight, then it's not a permanent fixed 402 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: for that. Let's go back to that balancing pH claim 403 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: made by the Alkaline clans. But first let's take quick 404 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: break for a word from our sponsor, and we're back. 405 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: Thank you sponsor. First off, this cleanse comes to those 406 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: thanks to pH living miracles Dr Robert Oh, Yeah, who 407 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: has been charged with fraud due to his health claims. 408 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: So that's a bit of a warning flag there. Uh. Secondly, 409 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: most of the acceptable foods on the Alkaline clans are 410 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: highly acidic like lemon, and your body's pH is kept 411 00:28:55,320 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: stable at around seven point three five. Eating a bunch 412 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: of acids is not gonna alkhalize you. And also there's 413 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: no evidence that alkhalizing quote would be in any way 414 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: a bit official. Yeah, there's pretty there's pretty much a 415 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: narrow window of of acid alkaline balance that your cells 416 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: confunction in, and that's what your body is doing. That's 417 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,479 Speaker 1: just how it is. That's how it is what you 418 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you might upset the balance of acid in 419 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: your stomach and throughout the rest of your gut by 420 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: eating overly acidic foods. But that's again like like like 421 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: basically your stomach's job is to handle that. Yeah, so 422 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: so you're not you're not putting different ions out into 423 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: your body by eating. That's that's fiction, right. Um. Another 424 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: criticism most of you have probably heard when it comes 425 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 1: to liquid diets is that because the fiber and all 426 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: these fruits and vegetables that you're not eating but drinking 427 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: isn't there. Um. And because you're not chewing, you're probably 428 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: still going to be hungry after your juice meal thing. 429 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: And uh, you're not doing your digestion any favors by 430 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: depriving it of fiber either. Um proponents turn this around 431 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: and say that this lack of fiber is a good thing, 432 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: as it gives the stomach time to quote rest and 433 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: a lot of websites I looked at that have juice 434 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: cleanses use that term rest um and divert that energy 435 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: to detoxin. Let experts say that unless it's after surgery, 436 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: your stomach doesn't need to rist. Yeah, fiber is actually 437 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: part of your body's normal cleansing system. Um. It absorbs 438 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: fiber in your gut absorbs water and along with it 439 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: water soluble waste and moves everything on out of your intestine. 440 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: So by decreasing fiber in your diet, you're preventing your 441 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: body from getting rid of the stuff that it would 442 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: need to get rid of. Fiber also serves to slow 443 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: your body's sugar uptake, which means that eating whole fruit 444 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: and vegetables helps keep your blood sugar levels more stable, 445 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: which is the other part of why you may feel 446 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: dizzy during a juice cleanse. It's it's because you're your 447 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: blood sugar is likely to spike and crash with every 448 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: bottle of juice that you drink. Yeah, and you're also 449 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: probably not getting enough protein, although some juice cleanses are 450 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: trying to fix this with the nut juice slash milk um, 451 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: but that can translate to a loss of muscle mass, 452 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: especially if you're exercising while juicing. And yes, y'all, fats 453 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: and proteins are vital to keeping your body, including your 454 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: guts and your liver and your kidneys, running the way 455 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,479 Speaker 1: that it's supposed to um. Furthermore, if you're if you're 456 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: in this juice cleans for the for the increased vitamins 457 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: that you that you're getting because you're probably going to 458 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: get increased vitamins because most of us don't eat enough 459 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: fruits and vegetables. Um. Part of the thing is here 460 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: that some vitamins are much better absorbed by your body 461 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: when you are simultaneously consuming fats. Of the thirteen essential 462 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: vitamins full or are fat soluble like this, the kind 463 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: of helps if you're if you've got the fats. UM. 464 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: Those those four vitamins are A, D, E, and K, 465 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: and they're all involved in your body's production and maintenance 466 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: of healthy bones, skin, and hair. So when you're doing 467 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: a super low fat juice cleans, your body isn't actually 468 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: absorbing some of the stuff that literally makes your skin 469 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: and your hair nice. And I feel like your skin 470 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: and your hair will be nice. Is one of the 471 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: super big Yeah, it's like that's that's going to settle 472 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: over you. Kind of interesting. I guess. Fact, when we 473 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: did our episode on kale, I think a year ago 474 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: over over on a stuff Mo'm never told you, one 475 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: of the tips we read was that you should eat 476 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: kale with something like bacon because kale has so many 477 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: of these vitamins and minerals, and that the fat and 478 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: bacon would help you absorb it better. Oh man, Southern 479 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: wisdom comes through again. Yes, all your grains and bacon fat. 480 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: That is so southern. That is so Southern. Okay, juices 481 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: can be healthy. Yeah, we we don't want to nay 482 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: say entirely. Yeah, I mean, let's be fair that they 483 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: if they aren't loaded up with sugar. Um, they're better 484 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: for you than say a donut. If you eat donuts 485 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,479 Speaker 1: like every day and swap some juice out for a donut. 486 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: In that way, it can be part of a healthy diet. 487 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: Moderation is key. But there's no evidence that they're going 488 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: to detox you or that you need to be detoxed. Um, 489 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: you're better off just eating fruits and vegetables. Yeah, really, 490 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: I think And and the evidence that I have read 491 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: about proves out that the best thing that can be 492 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: said about juice cleanses is that you're going to be 493 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: getting more vitamins and minerals than usual, which are things 494 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: that your body needs to turn food into energy and 495 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: to grow and maintain all of your cells. Good times there. Um. 496 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: Some of this stuff even does have antioxidant properties, which 497 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: means that it can help prevent cellular damage, which can 498 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: lead to diseases like cancer under particular circumstances. Um And 499 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 1: research does indeed show that eating fruits and vegetables can 500 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: decrease your risk of some diseases in the long run. 501 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: But the key phrase there is in the long run, 502 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: one juice boinge really isn't going to do that much, 503 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: especially because your body can only process a certain amount 504 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: of any given vitamin or mineral at once. Any acts 505 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: any excess there, especially of water soluble nutrients, you're just 506 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: going to pee out. Yeah. I've heard a similar thing 507 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: set about, like taking those vitamin C pills that say 508 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: it's like you're just going to get rid of that. Yeah, 509 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: that's right. Um. And I've heard friends say, like, I 510 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: like juicing because it saves me time. I don't have 511 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: to can just grab a bottle and go. But think 512 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: of all the money, the money, and how much time 513 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: does it really take to make a salad I don't know, 514 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: pick up an apple like I. Um, but if you're 515 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: utterly fixated on doing a client, keep it short, just 516 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 1: a few days, I'd say a day or two at most, 517 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: like most, if you're like really into it. My advice 518 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: would be to just eat food. Yeah, with the caveat 519 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: that like Okay, like we said earlier, people around the 520 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: world have definitely been using short fasts to practice mindfulness 521 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: for hundreds, if not thousands of years, and certainly an 522 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: occasional day or two of fasting is not going to 523 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: hurt you. Just just know what you're getting into and 524 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: and and don't expect magic out of it, right Yeah, 525 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: I mean ultimately it's just like three days out of 526 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: your life and it's not gonna long. Long term habits 527 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: are work, make your long term health happen, so right, 528 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: um And and and also caveat to the caveat another caveat. 529 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: If you're diabetic, going through chemo, have kidney disease, or 530 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: other nutritional deficiencies, juicing is not something you should try. 531 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: The sugar and juice can spike the blood sugar levels 532 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: of diabetics. Lack of protein is detrimental for people undergoing chemo, 533 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: and for those with kidney disease, the high levels of 534 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: potassium and minerals from too much juice can lead to 535 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: dangerous build up. Um Yeah, I would in general, just 536 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: check with your doctor if you have any kind of 537 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: UM condition or disease or something that may be juicing. 538 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: If your body is already stressed out, it's not gonna 539 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: dealing with something else isn't going to help stress it 540 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: out with juicing, with the juice climbs, getting getting getting 541 00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: a good wide variety of regular old fiber and nutrients 542 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: and proteins and stuff, it's going to be probably your 543 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: best bet. Yeah, which which is such unsexy advice. I'm sorry. 544 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: I wish. I wish that we could have an episode 545 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: where we go, like, yes, that that diet craze, it 546 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: is totally true, make you gorgeous and beloved by everyone. Um, 547 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: but that's not it's really not. No. I hope that 548 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: someday that episode happens. I hope we break ground. We're 549 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 1: the ones that discover it. We break this new diet, 550 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 1: that food stuff diet. It's just food puns before every meal, 551 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: that's it. Because you're so happy from the food puns. Yeah, 552 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: you're you're laughing so much that you're burning so many calories. 553 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,240 Speaker 1: There you go, Oh food stuff diet. All right, y'all 554 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: try it out and write in and let us know 555 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,399 Speaker 1: how it works. Um. Speaking of writing in and letting 556 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: us know how things work. Here's let's let's let's take 557 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: some listener mail. Okay, So the first letter email we 558 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: have is from Dan, who wrote about his personal connection 559 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 1: to the sugar industry and response to our sugar history episode. 560 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: Dan wrote, I have a personal family connection to the 561 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: sugar industry in the US. My family is Cuban and 562 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: moved to Louisiana in nine seven. My grandfather worked as 563 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: a welder, primarily at sugar refineries. These were popular along 564 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: the southeast because they would process the sugar cane being 565 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: imported from the Caribbean, so there was a lot of 566 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: work to be done. After corn syrup started to replace 567 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: kane derives sugars in the seventies and eighties, the refineries 568 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: began to close and my grandfather had to move his 569 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 1: family from Louisiana to Central Florida to try to continue 570 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 1: to find work and to live closer to other family 571 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: members who are leaving Cuba. Finally, our family moved to 572 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 1: South Florida, which was undergoing construction. Boom and welds were 573 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: needed to work on the ships in the ports. The 574 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: sugar refineries in the Sound of Feast could not compete 575 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: with corn syrup and a lot of the workers you 576 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: came from the Caribbean seasonally to deliver and refine the 577 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: sugar suffered in economic loss. Oh wow. Yeah, which I 578 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: thought was interesting because I didn't really come across any 579 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: uh information about sugar refineries in the Southeast when we 580 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: were doing the research, although it makes perfect sense, but 581 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: that's where they would be because of the locations. The 582 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: thanks stand Ford writing in that was very enlightening. Yeah. Absolutely. 583 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 1: Also about our sugar episode, we got an email from 584 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: Miquela um and she says something else I wanted to 585 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: offer up came from listening to your sugar episode. Lauren 586 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: talked about snacking on sugarcane and the hard sugar cones. 587 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 1: It is very common to find both of these and 588 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: Mexican Latin markets since they are used all the time. 589 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: I can only speak from Mexican cuisine because that's my 590 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: cultural background, so here it goes. As kids, my mom 591 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: would buy a sugarcane from the mercato and chop it 592 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: down to like six inch pieces and then you just 593 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: suck on the ends and get all the delicious sugar 594 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: liquid out. It's very fibrous because it's a grass like 595 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 1: bamboo and the trick is to not get it's stuck 596 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: in your teeth. But it's a great snack. We used 597 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: it most recently at Christmas, when punch is a common 598 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: holiday drink. It includes the slow simmer of cut pieces 599 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: of sugar cane and other winter fruit. It gives the 600 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: punch a light sweetness, but you need a cleaver or 601 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 1: a machete to peel away the skin first. The sugar cones, 602 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: which I know is piloncio, are boiled down with water 603 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: for use as a syrup. When a more intense sweetness 604 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 1: is needed. We use them in the mix for sweet tomales, 605 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: along with raisins and cinnamon, in a bread pudding made 606 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: around Easter called I think I said that right, And 607 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: in the I've used the many pilongchio cones, which are 608 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: harder to find in mold wine. But Laura is right 609 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: they are impossible to cut. I've never tried cutting pilongio 610 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: with a pair of sugar snips, but I have a 611 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: feeling historical sugar cones you talked about we're not quite 612 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: so dense. I remember, as a teenager trying to cut 613 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: the top off of one using every knife available in 614 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: our kitchen. And my mom got mad that because I 615 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: was trying to break the knives, which I love. She 616 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: also sent us a recipe which was awesome. Oh, please 617 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: feel free to send us recipe. Uh. Well, we'll see. 618 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: I'll see if I can um put that recipe up 619 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: on social media somewhere, because because we have some social 620 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: media things before I mentioned what those are. First, thank 621 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: you so much to Dan and Michaela for writing into us. 622 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: These these personal stories are so wonderful to to to 623 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: read about. And I mean like like we're on the 624 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 1: science end of of reading about everything, right, so it's 625 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: wonderful to hear these human stories along with it. Um, 626 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: thank you to them. If you would like to send 627 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: us anything or check out that recipe that Michaela sent us. Um, 628 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: we've got some social media We've we've got uh an 629 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: email address. Yes, it is food stuff at how stuff 630 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: works dot com. We also have an Instagram which is 631 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: at food stuff and a Twitter account which is at 632 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: food stuff HS which stands for how stuff Works, right. Yes, 633 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: And also thank you to our audio producer, Melbro. Yes, 634 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: he's nodding very seriously. He's wearing his white sunglasses today, 635 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: which I am very fond of your awesome yes. Thank 636 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: you to all of you for listening. We hope that 637 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: lots more good things are coming your way.