WEBVTT - CZM Rewind: The Devil's Chatroom 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:13.440 Col Zone Media. Hello everyone, Molly Conger here. This is, 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:18.400 as you've probably noticed, a rerun. I'm enjoying some much 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:20.759 needed time off at the moment. I hope you'll forgive me. 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:24.360 This pair of episodes originally ran at the end of 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:29.040 October and beginning of November of last year. It tells 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:32.240 the story of Ethan Melzer, the United States Army private 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:34.680 sentenced to more than forty years in prison or a 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:37.440 failed plot to have his own unit ambushed during a 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:41.600 sensitive mission in Turkey. It felt timely to re release 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:46.519 this one now. The strange satanic Nazi cult that Melzer 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:50.080 was drawn into as he planned for murder and mayhem. 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.640 It's back in the news just recently. In March of 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:57.360 twenty twenty five, a teenager in Wisconsin was arrested and 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:01.080 charged with the murder of his mother and stepfather. On 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:04.200 his phone, authorities found material related to the Order of 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:07.880 Nine Angles, the same group Melzer had been involved in. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.720 It's too soon to say much about Nikita Kaysap, that 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:16.679 teenager in Wisconsin. He's been charged at the state level 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.600 in Wisconsin, and it looks like federal charges are probably 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:22.959 coming down the line. At some point. Two I'm sure 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:27.080 his story will be won for the show eventually, but 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:30.720 it isn't quite over yet. For now, though, I can 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:34.880 offer you a little insight into what can happen when 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:37.520 a young man starts looking for answers in the Devil's 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:47.960 chat room. On May twenty sixth, twenty twenty, a U. S. 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.760 Army private stationed in Italy celebrated his twenty second birthday. 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.680 He was blissfully unaware that the FBI had spent that 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:59.000 day confirming his identity as the Nazi satanist who was 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.280 trying to get Al Qaeda to wipe out his entire unit. 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:07.840 Half a world away. That very same day, Minneapolis police 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:11.360 officer Derek Chauvin knelt on an unarmed man's neck for 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:16.200 nine minutes and twenty nine seconds. The man cried out, 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:21.040 saying he couldn't breathe. He begged the officer not to 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:26.560 kill him. He cried out for his mother, and then 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:32.079 he fell silent. The murder of George Floyd was caught 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:35.320 on camera by a bystander, and protests against this act 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:38.400 of police brutality started within hours in the Minneapolis area. 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:44.240 The video spread rapidly, and so did the protests in 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.880 the months that followed, protest marches, rallies, and memorials were 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:51.040 held in thousands of cities, reaching every state in the 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:55.079 country and dozens of countries around the world. Millions of 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:58.160 Americans took to the streets and public squares to protest 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:03.200 police brutality, and in countless cities, the police responded by 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:08.360 demonstrating the very brutality that people were protesting. Three days 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:12.160 after the murder, then President Donald Trump tweeted, when the 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:18.240 looting starts, The shooting starts. By Monday, June first, less 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.160 than a week after George Floyd's murder, the president was 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:24.600 publicly threatening to invoke the Insurrection Act, which would allow 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.160 him to use the military to put down civil disorder. 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.440 Governors in more than thirty states activated the National Guard 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.440 to assist state and local police in responding to the protests. 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.720 Governors in twelve states deployed National Guard troops to Washington, 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:42.840 d c. At the request of the Pentagon. On June second, 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.280 a hundred members of the Ohio National Guard received orders 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:50.080 that they'd be heading to the nation's capital that afternoon. 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.560 The administrator of a small telegram channel for fans of 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:58.560 a fascist YouTuber posted, they activated my unit and were 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:04.920 getting real ammunition to shoot and to kill. He ended 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:09.240 the message by saying rahoa, a portmanteau of the phrase 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:14.360 racial holy war, a Nazi rallying cry. He told his 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.960 followers that they may not hear from him again, but 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:22.400 they might hear about him in the news. Some urged 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:25.440 him not to do anything stupid. Others egged him on, 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:29.080 telling him he should accelerate the collapse. They were thrilled 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:32.320 at the possibility that full scale civil conflict could be 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.200 incited by shooting into the crowd of protesters in Washington, 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:38.880 d C. Maybe the race war really was about to begin. 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.000 Whether he was just ship posting, or if he really 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.000 was considering kicking off the race war, we'll never know. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.359 If we're to take him at his word, always a 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:53.080 shaky proposition. He was deployed with his National Guard unit 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:56.919 at Lafayette Park, just outside the White House when FBI 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:00.039 agents from the Joint Terrorism Task Force showed up to 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:04.240 have a chat. Soon after, Ohio Governor Mike DeWine announced 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.279 that one of the National guardsmen he'd sent to DC 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:12.080 was being called back. On June fifth, twenty twenty, Governor 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:13.320 de Wine tweeted. 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.760 I want to take a moment to address a situation 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:21.080 regarding a member of the Ohio National Guard who was 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.120 removed from the mission in Washington, d C. After the 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:29.400 FBI uncovered information that this guardsman expressed white supremacist ideology 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.440 on the Internet prior to the assignment. 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.160 He didn't name the guardsman in question, and no explanation 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:41.080 was offered about what exactly had been said, where it 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:44.440 was said, or how the FBI came to see it. 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.520 Jared Holt at right Wing Watch uncovered the small telegram 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.279 channel where those comments had been made a few days later, 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:55.640 and journalists at the nonprofit media collective Unicorn Riot quickly 0:05:55.680 --> 0:06:00.400 identified the man in question as Shandon Simpson, a member 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:04.040 of the now defunct neo Nazi organization Vanguard America who 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.960 had been photographed standing shoulder to shoulder with James Alex 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:10.000 Fields Junior at the United Right rally in Charlettsville in 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:14.000 twenty seventeen, just hours before Fields committed a hate crime murder. 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.080 But that still didn't explain why the governor of Ohio 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.920 was making public statements about an FBI investigation into this guardsman, 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:27.240 especially considering no charges had been filed. Simpson claims he 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:30.520 was held in solitary confinement for a week, but the 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:34.719 Ohio National Guard has disputed that claim. He was never 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.880 charged with a crime and later received a general discharge 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:41.640 from the National Guard. It wasn't until a federal criminal 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:45.560 case against Ethan Melzer was unsealed two weeks later that 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:50.279 the pieces fell into place. They hadn't been investigating Shandon 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:54.080 Simpson at all. They just happened to come across his 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:57.640 posts about murdering protesters in Washington, d C. While they 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:01.840 were investigating somewhat else's plot to murder an entire platoon 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:08.880 of United States Army paratroopers five thousand miles away. I'm 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:29.880 Molly Conger, and this is weird, Little guys. This episode 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:33.560 is coming out on Halloween. That didn't occur to me 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.120 until halfway through the week. I don't have a great 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:39.120 sense of time, even under the best of circumstances. But 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.000 when I realized that, I ditched what I was working 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:46.480 on and tried to come up with something halloweeny. I 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.880 think that's something people do, right. I should have seasonal 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:54.040 themed episodes, But what does it mean to do a 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:58.440 Halloween episode of a show where every episode is about 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:02.200 a monster, How can you go spookier than we already 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:07.400 are getting every week? But then I realized, what's scarier 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:13.720 than Satan himself? This story has all the classic weird 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:17.680 little guy stuff. It's got neo Nazis, it's got white 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:21.760 supremacist troops. It's got hate groups splintering off into new 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:25.640 hate groups because of our cane internaccene, ideological squabbles and 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:30.000 power struggles and personal beefs. It's got a foiled terror 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:33.480 plot and a court record full of peerful letters from 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:36.880 friends and family insisting that the young man they know 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:41.520 really isn't as bad as you think. But this episode 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:45.240 is a little different because the evil guys we're talking 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:50.040 about aren't shying away from that label. They want you 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:55.000 to think they're evil. They're devil worshiping, neo Nazis, hell 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:59.760 bent on ending life as we know it. This episode 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:05.120 is not about Shandon Simpson. Don't worry, Shandon, Today is 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:08.920 not your day. When I met Shandon last year, while 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.800 I was covering a pro Russia rally masquerading as an 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:15.600 anti war protest at the Lincoln Memorial, he denied ever 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:20.760 having been a member of Adam Waffen or any related groups. Now, personally, 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:23.560 I don't think he was telling me the truth, but 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.520 it's not exactly easy to prove someone was a member 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.720 of a secret of organization and he's never been charged 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:33.000 with anything, so I guess we'll just have to agree 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:38.000 to disagree. But it can be said without dispute that 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.080 Shandon Simpson was a member of a telegram channel for 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:47.720 a group called rape Waffen. Yes, rape Waffen. I'm so 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:52.640 sorry because that's what we're talking about today. And just 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:55.760 a quick note at the top, this show doesn't have 0:09:56.160 --> 0:10:01.320 content warnings because it's always about something bad. I don't 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.199 want to get into the discourse about content warnings. They 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:07.600 certainly have their place, but this show is never not 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.920 going to be about violence, and it would be redundant 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:15.160 to mention it every time. But the particular subsect of 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:20.280 Nazi Satanists we're talking about today are really really obsessed 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:25.120 with sexual violence. I'm going to use the word rape 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:29.760 a lot, but there aren't any descriptions of anyone actually 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:34.680 being sexually assaulted. A few side characters do commit some 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:38.960 sexual assaults, and we're found to possess child sexual abuse material, 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:41.960 but we won't dwell on it in any kind of detail. 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:46.160 But here's your exit ramp if you just aren't in 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:49.480 the mood to hear me say the word rape thirty 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:55.360 or forty times. The fact that Shandon Simpson was a 0:10:55.400 --> 0:11:00.000 member of the rape Waffen telegram channel is again undisputed. 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:04.800 He said it himself, for what it's worth. Simpson has 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:06.760 claimed that he was only a member of the chat 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:11.560 because he was documenting the malevolent influence of Satanism on 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:18.760 the fascist movement, which sounds incredibly stupid, but honestly, that 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:22.319 might be the truth. And I'm not just saying that 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.080 because he has threatened to sue me for merely repeating 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:28.040 what was published by The Washington Post, which is that 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:32.080 he was a member of rape Waffen. He takes issue 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.880 with the implication that he was an ideological adherent of 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.360 the group's satanic beliefs. He insists that being a member 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:42.720 of the channel, which he again doesn't deny, doesn't mean 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:47.040 he was a member of the group. I can kind 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.920 of see that that might be true, but that's a 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.280 distinction without a difference. To me, he was a member 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:55.960 of rape Waffen the telegram channel, but he insists he 0:11:56.040 --> 0:12:00.280 was not a member of rape Waffen the group do 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:04.640 without what you will, And this allegation got new life 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.040 a few months ago when he was making a scene 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:10.200 outside the Democratic National Convention with a hes Bula flag. 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:14.160 Videos of him antagonizing people outside the venue got some 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:18.000 traction online and people recognized him as a Nazi we've 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:21.880 seen before, and that two year old Washington Post article 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:27.040 about him started circulating again. So stupid games, stupid prizes, 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.839 et cetera. Take it up with Jeff Bezos, I guess, 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:35.320 and in his defense, to the degree I'm interested in 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.480 such a thing, He did co author a document in 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.320 twenty eighteen, two years before he was outed as a 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:44.400 member of the rape Waffen, chat with another former member 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.440 of Adam Waffen, outlining the ways in which they felt 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:51.280 the movement was being damaged by influential Adam Woffen member 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:57.440 John Cameron Denton's embrace of Satanism. So maybe he was 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:01.920 just in there collecting evidence. Who can really say. It's 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:06.000 not like it really clears his name to say, you know, hey, 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.319 I didn't have a huge issue with the Nazi stuff 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:12.520 or the murders, but this blood magic devil thing is 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:16.000 taking it in a bad direction. I know, I said, 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:19.520 this episode is not about Shandon Simpson and it's not 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:24.800 don't worry, But this ideological split within the Nazi terrorism 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:29.960 enthusiast community over whether or not Satanism was cool is 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.880 an important bit of context for where we're going. I 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:37.520 promise Rape Waffen was one of the groups to crop 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.679 up during this period of conflict within Adam Woffen about 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.360 the growing influence within the group of the Order of 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:49.000 Nine Angles, a militant Satanist occult organization that insists it 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:53.880 isn't a Nazi group. It is hard to describe the 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.840 Order of Nine Angles ONA for short, in a way 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:03.880 that makes any sense, and that's intentional, I mean, quite 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:07.840 literally and beyond the usual sort of esoteric nature of 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:13.200 occult groups. Writings attributed to Ona invented a concept called 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:20.359 Labyrinthos mythologicus. The idea is that the writings are intentionally contradictory, 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:26.040 bordering on incomprehensible on purpose, and their true meaning is 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:29.400 only legible to those who are worthy of interpreting them. 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.400 So if you don't get it, that's because you aren't 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:39.600 meant to. Because of Ona's decentralized leaderless structure. All members 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:43.960 are self initiated. To join the Order of Nine Angles, 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:47.040 you have to figure it out on your own. The 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:51.320 texts are available, but the true process, apparently, is only 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.000 revealed to you in the course of performing the ritual 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:58.720 of self initiation. Part of the self initiation ritual involves 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.440 walking into a river and imagining the moon's energy flowing 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:06.120 into you, which sounds like a fine way to spend 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:10.200 an evening. But it's not all moonlight skinny dipping. There's 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.360 a lot of carving swastikas into your own arm with 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.000 the razor blade and then smearing your blood all over 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:21.440 a magical race war manifesto. I know, I know. These 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:25.200 are Nazi wizards and they're doing blood magic to conjure 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:29.200 demons to end the world. This is worse than the 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:32.520 fact that the clan calls their chapters claverns, and the 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:36.400 secretary of a clavern is called a clay wrap. It's 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:40.480 so frustrating that these scary murderers all sound like fucking 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:46.000 dorks for all the trappings of wizardry, though it might 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:48.640 help to just think of them like any other kind 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:52.760 of accelerationists. We've talked a lot about accelerationists. In other episodes, 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:56.320 they want to destabilize society and force it into a 0:15:56.360 --> 0:16:00.440 collapse so that something new can be born, just like 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.880 any right wing extremist taking shots at an electrical transformer. 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.520 All this extra stuff about how they believe that collapse 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.120 paves the way for the return of a messianic figure 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.880 called Vindex, who will usher in a new social order 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.920 called the Imperium, during which a new superior race of 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:21.800 humans will evolve, and these new areans will colonize the galaxy. 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:26.160 It's not important. It absolutely does not impact your ability 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:29.960 to follow this story to know more about Nazi Jesus 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:34.480 taking the Hitler Wizards to space. Quite frankly, I refuse 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.200 to find out more information about the galactic Imperium. It 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:41.720 sounds too stupid. In the end, I guess every cult 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:45.880 ends up in space. You dig deep enough into just 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:51.240 about any cult they're going to space, and like I said, 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:56.960 it's confusing. On purpose. You could drive yourself to madness 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.800 trying to parse out what's a metaphor what's a what's 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:05.280 intentional obfuscation in the spirit of the sinister dialectic, what 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.840 someone actually believes or what they're only pretending to believe. 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:13.280 In one telegram message from a rape Waffen member, the 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.439 poster jokes that if a federal agent is reading his 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:20.760 private messages, quote, he has to read through hella esoteric 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:26.360 conversation and probably still doesn't even understand it. And I'm 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.840 not a federal agent, but I did read through some 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:31.879 of those chats, and I gotta say he's right. It 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.440 was hella esoteric and I didn't get all of it. 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:39.360 And that's fine, because in the end, all you can 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.960 really judge them by is their actions and their impact. 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:48.119 Whether or not they truly believe the demonic Entityvindex is 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.800 going to incarnate in human form and bring about the imperium, 0:17:52.560 --> 0:18:09.520 it doesn't really matter. So for as much time as 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:13.240 I spent reading every available academic paper on the subject, 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:18.520 which is surprisingly few, actually, I'm not sure it's going 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:21.480 to do much good for me to explain more about 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:25.719 the a causal realm. I'm sorry to any of the 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:27.800 cool wizards in the listening audience, some of you are 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:31.680 very nice people, but my general feeling about the ways 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:35.560 in which magic and religion exist as driving forces in 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:40.560 history is that it doesn't really matter what's real. If 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:44.320 someone sincerely believes that they are practicing magic by engaging 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:48.120 in ritual acts that in turn have a real world impact, 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:52.040 you know, like an act of terrorism. What does it 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:56.560 mean to say the magic isn't real? Does it matter 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.560 if a spirit was really summoned to aid in this act, 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:05.240 if in the end it still happened. And I say 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:08.280 that not because I think any of you are listening 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:12.000 to this on your drive to work and asking yourself, oh, 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.960 are they really communing with Satanic deities on another plane 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:19.040 of existence? I don't really think many of you are 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:22.320 asking yourselves that, but a lot of you might be 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:26.879 asking yourself, do they really believe they are doing that? 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.320 And I think the answer is the same. Does it 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:35.919 matter if they're only pretending to believe it? But it 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:39.480 still guides the way they operate in this realm, you know, 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:44.760 the real world. What difference does it make if I 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.720 punched you in the face and then said, oh, I 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:51.040 was only pretending I wanted to hurt you? Does that 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:55.000 change the fact that your nose is bleeding? And as 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:57.440 for the claims in some owner writings that the group 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:01.720 is not inherently committed to neo NAT's or fascist ideologies, 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:06.680 I'll give you the same answer. Adherents have claimed that 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:10.920 their fondness for Nazi ideology is simply a manifestation of 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:15.119 a core principle of left hand Path magic, that is, 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:19.879 to be intentionally transgressive and provocative, to engage in the 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:24.360 most taboo possible behavior, and to violate all conceivable social norms. 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:29.360 These are things that make your magic more potent. There 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:33.920 are onotechs that explicitly encourage the magical practitioner to adopt 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:38.879 things like neo Nazi ideology, not because they believe it, 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:42.600 but because it is part of this sinister strategy, and 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:46.400 it will hasten the revolution required to bring about the imperium. 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:50.280 And you know, you can tell me you don't actually 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:54.159 believe the Nazi stuff you're saying. But if you're saying 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:59.440 Nazi stuff, and you're doing Nazi stuff and your goal 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:03.240 is for a demonic messiah to wipe out the Jews, 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:07.000 your group is a Nazi group. If you think a 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:10.080 supernatural entity is going to return to cleanse the world 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.879 of subhumans to clear the path for a new Aryan race, 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:17.280 that's Nazi stuff. No matter how you've tried to obscure 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:21.639 that in your weird little texts. There is, of course, 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:24.480 the obvious point that the Order of Nine Angles was 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:27.800 for decades led by a British Nazi named David Mayat. 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:33.400 Mayat is a strange and mysterious figure for another day, 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.280 but it's worth pointing out that he was also a 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:40.760 founding member of Combat eighteen, a UK based Nazi terrorist 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:43.840 organization originally formed to act as the violent arm of 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:48.480 the British National Party. Harold Covington, another weird Little Guy's 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:52.879 recurring character, was also instrumental in forming Combat eighteen before 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:55.239 he returned home to the US to try to get 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:59.320 an ethno state going in Idaho, and one of Ona's 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:03.480 more prolific authors under the pen name AA Moraine, was 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:07.479 an English Nazi named Ryan Fleming. When he wasn't writing 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:11.800 esoteric Nazi wizard books, Fleming was a regional organizer for 0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:16.159 the UK based terrorist organization National Action, and a pedophile 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:20.040 in his spare time. He was arrested again in twenty 0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:23.080 twenty one after violating a court order that prohibited him 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:27.800 from having unsupervised contact with my nurse. The court order 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:30.680 was put in place after his conviction in twenty seventeen 0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:34.040 for sexually abusing a fourteen year old girl he met 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:38.720 on Facebook, and a conviction in twenty fourteen for imprisoning 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:43.280 and sexually abusing a teenage boy. He served twenty two 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:45.560 months for the first sex crime against a child and 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:49.320 three years for the second one. When he was arrested 0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:51.560 for trying to do it a third time, he got 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:54.920 six months, which means he must be out and about now. 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:59.240 But I couldn't find any more recent news coverage. In 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:02.560 the course of reat searching for this show, I read 0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:05.840 a lot of material that I do not enjoy. But 0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:10.040 I did not force myself to read this pedophile's wizard books. 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.040 I just I didn't do it. I didn't do it 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:14.240 this week. I'm not sure what it would have added. 0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:17.119 I'm kind of a completionist. I thought about it, but 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:21.879 I didn't. I mean, I'm sure there are some really 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:27.919 exciting passages in his book Sithane Vampiric Witchcraft of the 0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:35.439 dracon Covenant, and honestly, this description of Codex Aristarchus is 0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:36.760 a little tempting. 0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:44.199 From the bloodstained moors of West Yorkshire, England comes a 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:48.320 genuinely a moral vampiric praxis, melding the black arts of 0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:52.800 predatory astral vamporism with a harsh ordeal based approach of 0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:58.520 the sinister Sevenfold way. In Codex Aristarchus AA, Moran presents 0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:03.280 the definitive collective work of the dracon Covenant, including vampiric theory, 0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:07.040 rights and methods by which the reader themselves can step 0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:11.240 upon the black path, the vamporee feeding upon the human herd, 0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:14.960 and taking the treacherous road to confrontation with the bleak, 0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:18.320 ascended masters the undead. 0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:24.480 Okay, I did, I did? I downloaded a copy of it, 0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:29.120 so I do have a copy of Codex Aristarchus. Maybe 0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:31.120 I'll let you know next week if I found out 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:35.240 if vampires are real. My point is a lot of 0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:39.920 Nazi perverts are doing magical rituals, and all of a sudden, 0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:44.840 these influential figures within Adam Woffin are really encouraging it. 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:49.960 So in twenty eighteen, this move towards Satanism was a 0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:55.360 big point of contention within the Accelerationist community. In twenty seventeen, 0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:59.320 Adam Woffin's founder, Brandon Russell went to prison. He's back 0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:02.080 in prison now for something else. This was a different thing. 0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:05.199 It's come up a few times in other episodes. This 0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:08.719 was kind of a big moment in modern Nazi history, 0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:13.160 I guess. But Brandon Russell's roommate, Devin Arthur's, had murdered 0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:17.800 their other two roommates. Devin Arthur's conversion to Islam shortly 0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:21.480 before these murders is often misunderstood as evidence that he 0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:25.280 was getting out of Nazism, because why would a racist 0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:26.280 convert to Islam? 0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:26.640 Right? 0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:32.439 But I think this conversation about this strange syncretism is 0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:37.320 better left for another day. I will, eventually, I promise, 0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:41.840 do an episode about the Hitler loving DC transit cop 0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:45.040 who went to prison for sending gift cards to Isis. 0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:49.400 But suffice it to say, for now, there is absolutely 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:54.080 no contradiction inherent in an American neo Nazi getting really 0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:58.399 interested in the violent side of Islamic extremism, up to 0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:03.960 and including coverting to Islam. So after Devon Arthur's told 0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:07.520 the police that he had murdered Jeremy Himmelman and Andrew Onischuk, 0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:10.760 the cop searched the home that they'd all shared with 0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:14.800 Brandon Russell. The police found the dead bodies of two 0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:19.560 Adam Waffen members, obviously, but they also found Brandon Russell's 0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:22.880 bomb making supplies, so he was down for the count 0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:27.320 for a while, and in his absence, John Cameron Denton 0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:33.160 was among those Adam Woffin members whose influence grew within 0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:39.480 Adam Woffin. Denton used the pseudonym rape, just rape, that's 0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:43.200 what he was called. They called him rape and based 0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:46.480 on his Internet footprint. Denton had been involved with the 0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:51.560 Order of Nine Angles for several years already, and within 0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:55.320 Adam Woffin he quickly became a protege of James Mason, 0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:58.840 the elderly pedophile who served as the ideological adviser for 0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:02.879 Adam Woffin from its early days. James Mason is the 0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:06.600 author of Siege, a terrorist's handbook that was Adam Woffin's 0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:10.639 most important text, but he's also been to jail several 0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:15.760 times for possessing pornographic photographs of underage girls, sexual exploitation 0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:19.440 of a minor, and threatening his underage girlfriend with a gun. 0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:23.200 His fondness for blowing up the power grid is arrivaled 0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:26.760