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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know? What's from House stuff

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Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and Jerome the Jairs.

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Speaker 1: So this is stuff you should know. Jerry got a

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Speaker 1: piece of mail the other day that said Jerome, Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like real mail though, right, Jerry, Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how that happened. Oh like mail mail, not like a mail.

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Speaker 1: Oh little Jerry just said confirmed. Weird. We've been doing

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Speaker 1: a lot of this Jerry translating lately. That's really weird.

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Speaker 1: That's bizarre. I mean, I sold your address to a

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Speaker 1: mailing list, but I've never been reimbursed for it. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: how how are you, sir? Great we are fresh off

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Speaker 1: our live shows and Boston, Mass MA and uh Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C and uh Big. Thanks to everyone that came out.

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Speaker 1: Those were a lot of fun, Yeah for sure. And

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Speaker 1: thanks to the Brightest Young Things for having us to

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Speaker 1: the Benson Ball with Tigna Taro And it was wonderful

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Speaker 1: we got to meet Ticks. She was just as nice

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Speaker 1: and nonplussed as I would have voted exactly. She didn't

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Speaker 1: make a fuss No, nor should she. Wait, I mean

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Speaker 1: that in a good way. Wait, is it non plus

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Speaker 1: the opposite of what you think it means? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think non plus means like you're you're agitated, means

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Speaker 1: you're plused. Yeah, I'd learned things all the time on

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Speaker 1: this show. Yeah, me to your favorite part of my job.

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Speaker 1: And uh, most specifically, the most recent thing I've learned, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: is that fire, the use of fire, the technological application

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Speaker 1: of fire, that's as far as I'm going actually predates humanity.

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Speaker 1: That it was Homo erectus who was the first um

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Speaker 1: upright hominid who controlled fire, and it was as long

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Speaker 1: ago as a million years. There's evidence of the use

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Speaker 1: as a million years ago. Yeah, it's just here, uh

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Speaker 1: in this article that you found that uh in China

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Speaker 1: their hearts of clay, silt and limestone from like a

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Speaker 1: half a million years ago. And uh, you know signs

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Speaker 1: like you said in Africa over a million years ago

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Speaker 1: that people and these are in caves, so essentially indoor fireplace. Right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it did have some limestone or some clay or

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Speaker 1: like the fireplaces we know of today. The ones we

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Speaker 1: see and say there's a fireplace, they're actually about seven

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the the it's kind of interesting to see

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Speaker 1: which is counterintuitive. Yeah, it's like nonplused. Yeah, I looked

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Speaker 1: So compare that to like the smart fireplace a k a.

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Speaker 1: contained fireplace, but it's not just wide open. It's out

423
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Speaker 1: in the open. Yeah yeah, but I mean you shut

424
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: the door to it, right, You shut the door to it,

425
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: so you're saving the warmer around it from being sucked in, right.

426
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: And then it's also removed from the interior of the

427
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: wall so that it can heat on all sides. It's

428
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,239
Speaker 1: right up there so you can fall on it. And

429
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: then the flu itself can go up and then out

430
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: of the room so that the hot gas that's being

431
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 1: carried out can heat the air in the room around it.

432
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 1: So you've got that stove pipe. Yeah, you've got a

433
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of different ways the air is

434
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: being warmed in your house by a wood stove. Yeah,

435
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look into these new ones. There's new ones.

436
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: There's also like very there's some famous ones. They're like

437
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: mid century design that are super mod um Swedish ones, uh.

438
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,239
Speaker 1: And then there's like they're ones that look kind of

439
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: like the traditional ones, but they're they're newly built and

440
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: like their improved designs. Remember the old seventies fireplaces that

441
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: were uh like orange um metal, and that would the

442
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: Swedish one I'm talking about. Really, it's based on that

443
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: old old seventies Look, No, that's the one I'm talking

444
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: about the seventies. Okay, Yeah, there's newer ones too, but

445
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: that the iconic orange one. Yeah that's yeah. Yeah. Like

446
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: my friend, one friend in high school, Chris Boten, had

447
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: the most seventies house. Oh dude, it was wonderful, like

448
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: it was the orange fireplace surround like built in a

449
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: terrarium set deal with plants and rocks and things. I

450
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: think there might have been a little fake waterfall. Oh

451
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure there was macromy at some point, but it

452
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: was just it had one of those sunken living rooms,

453
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, and looking back now like it's a

454
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: super cool like mod house, like people now would be like,

455
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's preserved in time. It's the greatest

456
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: thing ever. Like his hit a water but of course,

457
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 1: but um one of his walls, his entire wall was

458
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: like a blown up photograph of like a Hawaiian sunset. Oh,

459
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: we had a couple of those in our in our house.

460
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: Not not a Hawaiian sunset, but we had like a

461
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: forest with a waterfall going through it. And then in

462
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: our kitchen a forest mural no no water, that's very

463
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: ice storm. Uh yeah, I've never seen that movie, but

464
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: I can imagine, because yeah, I mean, like key parties

465
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: are happening and people are drinking eggnog around the orange

466
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: lacquered fireplace. It's a wonderful time. But let's say you

467
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: have just the regular, regular old fireplace to start. Yeah, right,

468
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: you want to you come across it, you say, what

469
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: what the heck is this thing? What do I do well.

470
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: The first thing you do is you all got into

471
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: the airnet and go to house stuff works and look

472
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: up how to operate a fireplace? Because how stuff works

473
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,239
Speaker 1: has you covered? Man? Yeah, I mean the only thing

474
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: I could say this would probably be good for is

475
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: if you've never literally never started a fire. But it

476
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: seems like coming knowledge to me. Yeah, there's some details

477
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: in there that I don't know. Like hardwood's right, you

478
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: don't want to burn pine or any soft wood. Okay,

479
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: you want your hardwood's like hickory ash oak kind of stuff,

480
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: and you want it seasoned. That's the key. Yeah. You

481
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: can't go cut down a tree in the yard and

482
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: chop it up and burn it the next week because

483
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: it will smoke and you'll see literally, I mean when

484
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: I go camping, we get rooked all the time on

485
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: firewood purchases, and we sit down for the evening, throw

486
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: the wood on there, and you just start hearing the

487
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: sizzle and you see the water just literally boiling out

488
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: of it, and we're just like, man, well, okay, that

489
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: roads guy, I'm gonna go back. Here's how. Here's how.

490
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: You got to test it right there in front of

491
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: the guy and watch him score him. Take two logs

492
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: and you knock them together, and what you're looking for

493
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: is a hollow sound, no thud, hollow sound. Then you

494
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: know it's season. Yeah, but he would go like city

495
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: boy that you know this is North Georgia, lob lolly pine.

496
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: You don't know what you're talking about. You'd say, well,

497
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: pines the soft wood. I want hardwoods. Where's the hardwoods?

498
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: I want to call it. Shoot off my property and

499
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: leave the boiled peanuts. You'd say, I'm gonna take half

500
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: of the boiled peanuts for my time. Yeah, I feel

501
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: like we always get wet wood, but um, at least

502
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: six months you want that wood drying out. They say

503
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: a full year. What you're looking for is moisture level

504
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: by the time you're burning it, right, you could also

505
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: put in a moisture level temperature moisture indicator in the end. Yeah,

506
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: there you go that you buy the big city. But

507
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: you you look at the ends the wood too, and

508
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: you'll see that it's cracked and split. It's usually dark

509
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: like gray. It just looked it looks aged. But the

510
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: the dead giveaways the hollow thud sound. I'm gonna I

511
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: didn't know that, so I'm gonna try that the hollow

512
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: thud or the I'm sorry, the hollow sound, not the thud. Right, Yeah,

513
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: that's what you're looking for. So you take your fire,

514
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: or you take your wood, you put it on your

515
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: fire grate. Although so this is a component of the fireplace,

516
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: it's not an actual like part of it. The fire

517
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: grate is like this iron stand. It's a great. There's

518
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: really no other way to describe it, although some fireficionados

519
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: suggest that you should use what are called and irons,

520
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: which are well, an and iron is basically a great,

521
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: missing the great part in the middle. It's basically these

522
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: two stands, a pair of stands that go in the fireplace,

523
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: and it holds the logs aloft through. The great does

524
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: the same thing, except um, it keeps burning like embers

525
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: on the grade. A little more. The reason why people

526
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: are like and irons are grays because, however, you have

527
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: it a great, you're an and iron. You want to

528
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: keep a bed of embers going because that is going

529
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: to eventually become hot enough that you could throw anything

530
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: on there and it'll start to catch fire. Um. So

531
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: when you when you take your split logs, you put

532
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: them on your grate, or your and irons. Put a

533
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: little kindling beneath them, which is like thinner wood that

534
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: will catch fire easily, light it on fire. Oh, I

535
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: forgot first, you want to pour about a half a

536
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: leader of kerosene on this that it starts. You do

537
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: not misspeak. That is just a joke. Kids. You don't

538
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: ever want to use any sort of lighter, fluid or

539
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: anything like that to start indoor fire. Kids, you should

540
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: not be starting a fire in the first place, so

541
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: stop right now. This is for grown ups, that's right.

542
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: But you do want to use something like, I don't know, newspaper,

543
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: just a piece of paper to light the kindling. But no,

544
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: you don't want to use any sort of acceller it. Well,

545
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: people don't get newspapers anymore, so you can just uh

546
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: light your kindle or your iPad right, throw that in

547
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: there instead. It'll it'll start, But that kiddeling is gonna catch,

548
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: and if your wood is season it'll catch too. And

549
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you gotta fire. Yeah, you

550
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: may want to adjust that damper a little bit just

551
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: to keep your air flowed how you want it um

552
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: and then and again when you're when you're when you

553
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: have a fire going. One of the two main things

554
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: you're trying to do in addition to not burn down

555
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: your house is to keep the smoke from coming back

556
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: in the room. And sometimes that's easier said than done,

557
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: because every house has something called a neutral pressure plane. Okay,

558
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: so above the neutral pressure plane, the air is pressurized

559
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: so it wants to push air out, and below it

560
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: air is the The pressure inside the house is lower,

561
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: so air wants to be sucked in. So as long

562
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 1: as your your fireplace, your chimney is above that neutral

563
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: pre sure plane, you're gonna be okay, the air is

564
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: gonna want to go in. Um if it so happens

565
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: that the air around your fireplace is a higher pressure,

566
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: then the air is actually going to be pushed down

567
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: the chimney, into the firebox and out into the room,

568
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: which is no good. But you can solve it pretty

569
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: easily by just opening a window and allowing air to

570
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: come in or go out, depending or have a ninety

571
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: year old windows right where you don't have to worry

572
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: about it at all to do because the air just

573
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: flows through freely. So if you wanna you know, we're

574
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: talking about how inefficient they are. If you want to

575
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: improve that efficiency. There are a couple of cool things

576
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: you can do. Uh. One is called a tubular grate,

577
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: and that is exactly what you think it is. Instead

578
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: of just a great um made of solid iron at

579
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: the bottom, it is a bit of a cage. It

580
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: looks like sort of like the motorcycle, uh, exhaust pipes

581
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: and things. So, um, you know, it's just their tubular

582
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: So it's gonna draw in the cool air in the

583
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: bottom of the tubes, and then it's gonna rise and

584
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: then loop back around and shoot out the top of

585
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: the tubes into your room. Yeah, well it should work

586
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: in theory. But remember if your fireplaces working properly, sucking

587
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: air from the room into the fire to fuel it

588
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: and then shooting it out the chimney. So this air

589
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: that's being warmed could be sucked right back into the fire,

590
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: that's right. But if you have it so that the

591
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: the the tubular grate is enclosed by some doors, but

592
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: the ends of the great can go out into the room, Bam,

593
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: you're set. Oh is that a thing? Yeah, I haven't

594
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: seen that. Uh. There's another thing called a well this

595
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: is what when um Emily's parents have moved to Georgia now,

596
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: but when they lived in Ohio, they had one of

597
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: these recirculators that was a fan. Basically, you would turn

598
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: on a switch and it would literally blow heat from

599
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: kind of underneath the great back out into the room.

600
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: And it worked really well, but it always seemed to

601
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: blow a little stink out with it. Stink, you know,

602
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: fire stink. Okay, yeah, I mean you couldn't see smoke

603
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: pouring out of it or anything, but it was still

604
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: affecting your respiratory. Well, I mean it didn't affect me

605
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: so much, but I could tell it was happening. Like

606
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: every recirculator I've ever seen or been around has kind

607
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: of had the same deal to me, whether it's gas

608
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: only or whatever, it always just seems to have this.

609
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm very sensitive to odors anyway, So

610
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: maybe that's something to do with that. I don't know.

611
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm a super smeller. Are you a super smeller?

612
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: What do you smell right now? I smell Knoll like

613
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: three three rooms over. You are a super smeller because

614
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: we are hermetically sealed in here? Not true? Uh? And

615
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: then those glass doors you talked about, it's another way

616
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: to increase efficiency, but you're awesome. So going to literally

617
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: just cut down on the heat that gets into the

618
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: room as much as Yeah, there's not a lot that

619
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: you can do to have a dramatic impact on the

620
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: efficiency of the fire. For the most part, it's going

621
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: to lose more heat than it puts out. You just

622
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: want to hope that you're you can warm your room,

623
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: you're in the fire enough so that you don't mind,

624
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 1: or if you're just after the aesthetic, then yeah, good

625
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: for you. You mean. And I lived in a place

626
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: where we had a fireplace for a couple of years.

627
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 1: We were hooked on it, hooked on it, yeah, oh yeah,

628
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 1: and we we could get that that room like hot

629
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: y you know, if you keep the fire going long enough.

630
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: That's the key. You just have to waste more than

631
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: you can imagine. All right, Well, we'll take another little

632
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: quickie break here and we'll come back and talk about

633
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 1: some more options and very depressing history of child labor.

634
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. All right, Josh, we've been talking about would

635
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: a lot because it's clearly the superior fireplace, seriously, but

636
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: you can you can get the old gas fake log

637
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: fireplace these days. My mom made the switch. It's fake

638
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: logs look pretty good these days. So wait a minute,

639
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: Wait a minute. She had a wood burning fireplace and

640
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: had a gas insert put in. Yes, wow, okay, So

641
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: because she had a like I had growing up to

642
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: the gas starter. Um, so you would light the gas,

643
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: throw the wood on, get it going, turn the gas off.

644
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: Got so she just retrofitted it. Um actually I did

645
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: it my brother into full gas with the fake logs that, um,

646
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: they look good these days. You know you can arrange

647
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: them in yourself in a way that looks aesthetically pleasing. Right,

648
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 1: they don't come in that mound that shape to look

649
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 1: like three logs laying on top of each other. No,

650
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: that it's come a long way, I'll say that. Don't

651
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: They have beds of embers now too and all that?

652
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: But then it catch the little flickery glow. Yep, what

653
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: is it? They've come a long way with trying to

654
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: simulate that look. Pica pica pica. I don't know what

655
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: that is. Uh, it's like the Japanese word for that,

656
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: like the little tinkling glow. I don't know I'm saying

657
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: it wrong, but it's a throwback. I said it wrong

658
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 1: on some other episode years back. Are you talking about

659
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: pretty pretty No, yeah, but that's something different. Yeah, I

660
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: don't they go back and find it. They We'll just

661
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: end it. This whole part out. Uh So the gas

662
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: logs um covering the gas event. You're gonna burn that

663
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: fire behind glass, it's gonna give off radiant and convicted heat.

664
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: You're probably gonna have a air um not recycling what

665
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: I call it exchanger air exchanger. They're working as well. Yeah,

666
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: And one of the reasons it's so much more efficient

667
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: is because it doesn't require any air from inside your room.

668
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: It draws air through a pipe from the outdoors because

669
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: it requires much less right, Um, so it's not going

670
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 1: to take any of that warmed air that it's warming

671
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: for itself to to burn. Is it's gonna say, you

672
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: keep it. I'm gas. I'm super efficient. I love you

673
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: in ways that wood could never imagine. Wood is dirty

674
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: and bumbling, and why do you love wood so much

675
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 1: more than me? I'm gas. So if you're getting an

676
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: new house, you're probably gonna have a gas fireplace. If

677
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 1: you're getting a fireplace added to a home, it's probably

678
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: gonna be a gas fireplace. That's the direction they're steering

679
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: you these days. Yeah, oh yeah, I would guess because gas.

680
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: I would guess you're gonna pay significantly more for a

681
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: wood burning fireplace to be built into your new house

682
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: than a gas one. You think, yeah, probably just because

683
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: so I'll bet there's relatively few, especially down below the

684
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: Mason Dixon line, relatively few builders who know how to

685
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: put in a wood burning fireplace. Yeah, you've got to

686
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: find a builder from nineteen basically, and he's gonna want

687
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: to give you one of those orange modern jobs that

688
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, this is cool, but no, I want

689
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,479
Speaker 1: like the real thing. Yeah, it's like, this is real.

690
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: So they're very efficient to these gas fireplaces. The gas

691
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: burns cleanly. Uh, they even have them that are event free. Um,

692
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: but people also say, you know what if your house

693
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: is not like Chucks and it is actually pretty tight

694
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: sealed and sealed up, then uh, they can actually deplete

695
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: oxygen or moisture can build up. So the jury is

696
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: still out somewhat on these gas fireplaces. I say the

697
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: jury is in and I'm the jury, and I say,

698
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: event free fireplace is a stupid idea. It's pumping carbon

699
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: dioxide into your house. That's not a that's never good.

700
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: You would think, yeah, you can get an ethanol fireplace.

701
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: This one seems like okay, you've seen him before, right,

702
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: Like if you go to a Marriott courtyard or something

703
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: like that, they'll have like the chair situated around a

704
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: table with a fireplace in the middle of the table.

705
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: It's nut. It's the flame is actually cold. It's basically

706
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: like right, it's basically like a stern o fireplace. Yeah,

707
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 1: you know you want to light your fun due pod

708
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: or something like that from beneath it's the same thing.

709
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: I think, virtually. Uh, And then you can get the

710
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: uh woe unto you if you opt for the electric fireplace. Well,

711
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: there's some now where you can get like an entertainment

712
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: center with like a TV and then beneath it a

713
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: fake electric fireplace. Yeah, it's cool. So an electric fireplaces

714
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: has no fire. Um, it is a heater and it

715
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 1: you know, it simulates the look of a fire if

716
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: you're four years old and squinting, if you're squinty four

717
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: year old. But you know, we don't want to yuck

718
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: someone's yum. So if that's your bag, then more power

719
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: to you. It's just not for me. I have to

720
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: take issue though, with this article. It says that it's

721
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: emission free. It's emission free on the user end, it's

722
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: still electricity, which means producing emissions at the coal firepower

723
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: plant that's producing that electricity. Don't be cool if you're like, oh,

724
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: it's a mission free No, no, we're gonna yuck that yum. Uh.

725
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: Safety wise, you gotta watch out for those sparks. If

726
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: you got carpet around or hard woods, I reckon keep

727
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: your bag of oily rags away from the fireplace, a

728
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: big one. Don't put You might want to fire extinguisher,

729
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: but don't put it in the fireplace right itself. Carbon

730
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: monoxide investing in a carbon monoxide detector is worthwhile. It

731
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be like a smart carbon monoxide detector,

732
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: although get one of those if you want. I'm just saying,

733
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: if you're using a wood burning fireplace, at the very least,

734
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: get yourself a cheap but decent carbon monoxide detector. Smoke

735
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: detectors not quite enough, Yeah, I think I think you

736
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: have to have those now. Didn't that the new code?

737
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't read the zoning codes in

738
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: a while. Building codes. Uh, you should take a look.

739
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: This is one of those kind of once a year things.

740
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: If you know what you're doing, you can at least

741
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: get a flashlight and kind of look everything over and

742
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,479
Speaker 1: see if there's anything obvious, like if your flute cap

743
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: is no longer on your chimney hurricane hit. Yeah, if

744
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: they're big cracks or anything, So what's wrong with yours?

745
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: Cracks like your house would catch on fire. All I

746
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: know is the guy did a lot of like uh uh,

747
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: maybe he just wasn't feeling it that thing. No, he

748
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: didn't put on a good show. Um. He he came

749
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: over because he's in their specialty is old houses and

750
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 1: old fireplaces. So I thought this guy is gonna be like, oh, great,

751
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 1: this is what I do. He acted like he didn't

752
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: want to do the job right. But that's not like

753
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: that's a lot of work. Man. You're gonna have to

754
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: fix your chimney on the inside and it's cracked here,

755
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: and you got this, and he got that. I was like, yeah,

756
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: it's that's what you advertise, is you fix old situations.

757
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: Have you you should bring somebody else out. Yeah I

758
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: didn't like that guy. Yah, you're gonna bring out someone

759
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: with some little moxie, But you do. Even if you

760
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: think that your fireplace is doing great, it pays to

761
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: pay somebody to come out and look at it inside,

762
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: Like is it too much to ask for a little

763
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: energy from your fireplace guy a little while factor? Maybe yes,

764
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: you're correct, you do need a pro every now and

765
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: then to come out. And they're called chimney sweets. Yeah.

766
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: Creosote is something if you look up creosote c R

767
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: E O S O T E online. Uh, it sort

768
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: of looks like black lava built up on the inside

769
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: of your chimney, right, and it itself could catch fire

770
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: and you have a chimney fire in which case, and

771
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: it sounds a little counterintuitive, like, well, there's fire going

772
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: through it all the time. Fire going through it is

773
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: much different from fire like your chimney being on fire itself.

774
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: And uh, if your chimneys on fire, your house can

775
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: catch fire fairly easy, especially if you have cracks in there,

776
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: because it goes and all of a sudden some pressure

777
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: treated too by fours, Like oh, oh, you don't want

778
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: to burn that pressure treated two by four by the way,

779
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: as would I don't think we mentioned that. Uh. One

780
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: thing you can burn though, which I wouldn't use but

781
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: it's a called a chimney sweep log or a creosote log,

782
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: and it's just a special log. It's sort of like

783
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: a a dura flame. It's a prefab log. It's a

784
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: chemical log, but it's supposed to break down that creosote.

785
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. Something about that made me

786
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: My radar went off, like I don't know if that's

787
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: the best way to do things. Yeah, I don't have

788
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: any proof, but I hear chemical log that knocks that

789
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: creosote loose, and it just didn't sound like the smart approach. Well,

790
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: even them, the Chimney Safety Institute of America says no, no, Like, yeah,

791
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: those things kind of work, but you want like actual

792
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: scrubbing of the interior of your chimney, which is what

793
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: chimney sweeps did. Yeah. Man, if you if you want

794
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: Moxie and your chimney sweep, you go to somebody's parents

795
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: and say, I want to buy your four year old

796
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: boy and making my chimney sweep slave. Yeah. I mean

797
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: earlier we teased and promised the child labor um horror show,

798
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: and that's pretty much what things were like in Jolly

799
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 1: Old England. After sixty second September to the sorry fifth September. Technically, yeah,

800
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: the Great Fire of London changed a lot of things,

801
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: and one of them was chimneys were a little bit

802
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: narrow and they had a lot more rules as far

803
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: as how clean you had to keep them. And so,

804
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: like you said, what you would do is you would

805
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: You can't put an adult up there, No, not really,

806
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: but you can't put a five year old boy or four,

807
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: I think is the youngest I saw them doing. Yeah,

808
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: so you would literally buy child from a poor person,

809
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: stick this boy up in there. They were your quote

810
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: unquote apprentice, which basically was child slaves, unpaid child labor

811
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: zero dollars and actually chimney sweeping at the time. So

812
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: after the Great Fire of London in sixteen sixty six,

813
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: I believe it was mandated by the Queen or Parliament

814
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: or somebody that everybody needed their chimneys like kept up with.

815
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: So chimney sweeps became a thing. But they actually swept

816
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: chimneys free. It was a free service. The way that

817
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: chimney sweeps made their money was from the soot that

818
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: they gathered. They would sell it as fertilizer. Oh, I

819
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: thought you're gonna say sponsorships, Like they would show up

820
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: like they're Chevy tahoeck yet or something is like nothing

821
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: gets your chimney clean, like son of a gum by

822
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: stp so um. They would stick these kids in there.

823
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: Sometimes they would literally light a fire under their butt

824
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: to make them work faster. The kids would shimmy and

825
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: distort their body to shimmy in this little eight in

826
00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: eighteen inch wide chimney and uh chip loose this creosote

827
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: and soot that would then because they're working above their head,

828
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 1: would follow all over them. They would take a bath

829
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: once a week, maybe once every month, maybe once every

830
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: two or three months, depending on who you're asking. So

831
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: these children are literally not I mean, if they survived

832
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: this experience at all, they're not going to live past

833
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: middle age. Right, So what you just described was a

834
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: good day. Yeah, there were all sorts of other horrible

835
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: maladies that could come about the formation of their skeletons.

836
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: Because these kids are like four or five, six, eight, ten,

837
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: twelve years old, they're still developing, but they're spending like

838
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: hours upon hours every day in these cramped chimneys. So

839
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: their bones, especially the bones and their ankles and knees

840
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: tended to grow in a deformed way. There's something the

841
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: first industrial linked cancer ever identified. It is called chimney

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Speaker 1: sweeps cancer. Other people call it scrotal carcinoma. Yeah, where

843
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: the the um scrotum was irritated by soot and it

844
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Speaker 1: would produce warts, and these wards, if they went untreated,

845
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Speaker 1: would turn into a carcinoma, which eventually if it was

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Speaker 1: if it wasn't cut out, would um. The tumor would

847
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Speaker 1: grow into the testes and then into the abdomen. And

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Speaker 1: it was a very very painful way to die. Kids

849
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Speaker 1: like twelve years of age were dying of scrotal cancer

850
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Speaker 1: from this. Yeah. You uh get up pre dawn. You

851
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: worked till the nighttime hours, three hundred and sixty four

852
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: days a year. Uh. The one day that these kids

853
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Speaker 1: would get off was May Day, International Labor Day. Uh.

854
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: They would sleep then. You know we said they collected

855
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: that ash and soot and sold it. They would store

856
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: all this stuff in sacks and the kids would then

857
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: sleep in those rooms, still ingesting all this stuff in

858
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: the air. Uh, and quite often they would literally get

859
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: stuck and dye in these tim Here here's the part

860
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: where I started a hyperventilate just thinking about this. From Yeah,

861
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: there's like this thing called positional asphyxia. There's actually a

862
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: pretty interesting Vice article called like a Brief History of

863
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: people getting stuck in chimneys, and they actually illustrate how

864
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: positional asphyxia happens using the Grinch. As he's going down

865
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: the chimney, his feet start to get above his head

866
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he's stuck. You can't get

867
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: out of that position. This would happen to real live

868
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: English boys and American too, apparently, who would get stuck

869
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: in the chimneys that they were cleaning out and would

870
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: die there because they would aspixate their their abdomen, couldn't

871
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: couldn't take in breaths any longer. Right, Um. It happened

872
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: a lot, and actually finally it happened enough times that

873
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: Parliament started to get involved. They first got involved in

874
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: with the Chimney Sweeps Act and they said, you know what,

875
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: this is crazy. You guys are buying four year old kids.

876
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: You can't do that. Emney sweeps can be no younger

877
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: than eight. That was their first stab at at at

878
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: at reform, right, and obviously this is child labor was

879
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: a lot different back then as far as how we

880
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: thought about when kids should work, right, but or the

881
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: idea of childhood hadn't even come about yet. Yeah, but

882
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: even so, even for a time where it was believed

883
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: that children should put forth an effort and work like

884
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: four and five year old kids, it's just ridiculous, sure right.

885
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 1: They also added though, that if you are a master

886
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: of a chimney sweep, you have to make sure that

887
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: they are allowed to go to church on Sundays. That

888
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: was the other part of the seventeen eighty eight Act, right.

889
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: Then in the eighteen forty Act they up the aged

890
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: twenty one, which was significant, but apparently it wasn't really

891
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: enforced until eighteen seventy five when this this one kid

892
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: died and he was basically the straw that broke the

893
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: camel's back for the public. Yeah. His name was George Brewster,

894
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: and he worked for a a gentleman by the name

895
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: of William Wire. And I say, gentlemen, what I mean

896
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: is a scumbag. Uh. And he was cleaning a hospital,

897
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: Chimney Fullborn Hospital, and he got stuck and the great

898
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: efforts were made to rescue him. Actually pulled down a

899
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: wall to try and get to him. He died and

900
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: Wire has actually found guilty of manslaughter. And his death

901
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: was really a big awareness jolt for everybody, and it

902
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: became part of the campaign. And um, that was pretty

903
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: much the end of using kids. Uh you know, he

904
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 1: was apparently the last child to die in a chimney

905
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: in England, and England, I guess in the US they

906
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: kept using him for a while. So shameful really is

907
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: now if you see a chimney, sweet tell four year

908
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: old to go up in the chimney. You called police

909
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: because that is illegal these days. No better where you live. Okay,

910
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: let's all agree to that. Do you got anything else?

911
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: No fireplaces? Just in time for the fall? Well yeah,

912
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: November here in Atlanta and in the mid eighties, so right,

913
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: ready to get that fireplace one? That's right. If you

914
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: want to know more about fireplaces, including how to light

915
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: of fire, you can go find that up by typing

916
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: fireplace in the search bar. How stuff works. And since

917
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: I said search bar, it's time for listener mail. I'm

918
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: gonna call this grammar police. Hey, guys, regular listener. For

919
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: quite some time I finally become angered or inspired enough

920
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: to write in about something I use the sandwich technique

921
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: proposed by Chuck recently. By the way, and I was

922
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: listening to an older episode Does a Body Replace Itself?

923
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: And you guys were talking about emails from the grammar police.

924
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: Grammar only has strict rules to those who decided that

925
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: it needed strict rules. As a society, we have a

926
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: rather dramatic ebb and flow of grammar rules. There's no

927
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: one entity decide to decide upon the rules, and therefore

928
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: there's no real right or wrong. You can almost consider

929
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 1: it like a fashion in a way. We can all

930
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: generally agree that double negatives are wrong, much like we

931
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: can all agree that socks and sandals are wrong, and

932
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: yet some will still use them or wear them without

933
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: a problem, as long as we can understand each other

934
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: and the quote incorrect unquote. Grammar does not take away

935
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,479
Speaker 1: from the meaning of your words, and it should not matter.

936
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: There are different times in which proper grammar is necessary

937
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: and scrutinized, and then there are times when it frankly

938
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: does not matter. Uh. There is a huge debate in

939
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: the grammar world. UH, the few but mighty, she points out,

940
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: about whether we should be prescriptivists or descriptivists when it

941
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: comes to the rules of grammar. Uh, it's a constantly

942
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: evolving topic and arguably grammar is a constantly evolving entity.

943
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: I just thought i'd share my thoughts and hopes that

944
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 1: you wouldn't get down on yourselves from the grammar police.

945
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: And yes, feel free to pick apart my email for

946
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: grammar errors. Happy face. That is from Colleen Zaker, an

947
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: English teacher and grammar enthusiasts. Thanks a lot, Colleen, We

948
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: appreciate that big time. We always love to hear support

949
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: from people who are like, don't listen to the haters. Yeah. Ah.

950
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: If you want to get in touch of this, like

951
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 1: Colleen did, is it Colleen? Sure? Uh? Who cares? Actually,

952
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. It goes either way or whatever. Yeah,

953
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: she said, you can call me whatever. Uh. If you

954
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: want to, uh, get in touch with us, like Cauliflower did,

955
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: you can tweak to us at s Y s K podcast.

956
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: You can join us on Facebook dot com, slash Stuff

957
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: you Should Know. You can send us an email to

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00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: Stuff Podcast at house Stiff First dot com and has

959
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 1: always joined us over at home on the web. Stuff

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Speaker 1: you should Know dot com for more on this and

961
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Speaker 1: thousands of other topics. Is it how stuff works? Dot

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