1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Bloomberg 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: DABA Accurate podcast, available every morning on Apple, Spotify or 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: wherever you listen. It's Tuesday, the thirtieth of July here 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: in London. I'm Caroline Hepka. 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: And I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today. Rachel Reeves warns 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: of more difficult decisions as she blames the Tories for 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: a twenty two billion pound budget black hole. 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Standard chart it expands it's multi billion dollar share buyback 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: as results beat estimates. 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: Plus setting up a showdown. Donald Trump says he will 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: probably debate Kamala Harris before US voters go to the polls. 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: The UK's Chancellor, Rachel Reeves has announced major spending cuts 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: and new taxes as she warned she'd inherited a fiscal 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: black hole. She accused the previous government of spending twenty 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: two billion pounds it didn't have. 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: I'm not talking costs for future years that they signed 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 3: up to but did not include. I'm not talking about 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: the state of public services in the future, but the 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: crisis in our prisons which they've left for us to fix. 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: I'm talking about the money that they were already spending 22 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 3: this year and had no ability to pay for, which 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 3: they hid from the country. They had exhausted the reserve 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: and they knew that, but nobody else did. 25 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: The Chancellor scrapped road and rail projects and some support 26 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: for pensioneeris to help fill the budget shortfall. In all, 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: Rachel Reds announced five and a half billion pounds of savings, 28 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: leaving a budget shortfall of sixteen point four billion pounds, 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: which includes spending on public sector pay rises off between 30 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: five and six percent. 31 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: Rachel Reeves has also hinted at tax rises in the budget, 32 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: which she set for the end of October. Charlie ban, 33 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: a former deputy governor at the Bank of England, says 34 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: that they now seem inevitable. 35 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 4: I think they're pretty much has to be the big 36 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 4: lie of the election. Camp pain maybe expect to call 37 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 4: it conspiracy of silence. Neither party was really honest about 38 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 4: the underlying pressures on the public finances in the medium term. 39 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: So Charlie Bean there, who was joined by other experts 40 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: who said that the announcement pointed to a painful budget 41 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: in the autumn. The chance that doubled down on her 42 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: commitments not to raise vat National Insurance income and Corporation tax, 43 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: but has not ruled out other levies like capital gains 44 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: tax increases. 45 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: Standard Charter is expanding its share buyback program with another 46 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: one point five billion dollars announced today. It's part of 47 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: an overall plan to return five billion to shareholders by 48 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. The bank reboarded second quarter pre tax 49 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: profit of one point eight three billion dollars, beating analyst 50 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: estimates of one point six billion. Standard Charter also upgraded 51 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: its guidance for income growth this year, which it now 52 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: expects to be above seven percent. Shares in Hong Kong 53 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: at the bank have risen after the results made. 54 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: Electric vehicles are dominating the European market. Brands from the 55 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: country are hitting record registrations, with new regulations that could 56 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: threaten the sector. Bloomberg's Tia Adebaya has more. 57 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 5: More than twenty three thousand of Europe's registered battery electric 58 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 5: vehicles came from China last month, according to Data Force figures, 59 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 5: a record amount. The surge comes as Chinese manufacturers race 60 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 5: against EU tariffs, which took effect earlier this month. Cars 61 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 5: registered before July fifth could be sold on without added duties. 62 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 5: Chinese made imports from Western manufacturers, including Volvo and Tesla, 63 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 5: are also subject to the changes, but tensions between Beijing 64 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 5: and Brussels risked evolving into a trade war. Chinese brands, 65 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 5: including state owned SAIC and BYD, captured eleven percent of 66 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 5: the European electric car market in June, and car makers 67 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 5: are expanding in Europe to blunt EU restrictions. In London, 68 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 5: tiwa Adebayo Bloom Radio. 69 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: A Tesla market analyst, has reportedly narrowly avoided a crash 70 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: whilst testing the company's full self driving feature. According to 71 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: William Stein from Truth Securities, he was forced to intervene 72 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: when the car accelerated through an intersection in the New 73 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: York suburbs towards another vehicle. Bomberg Technology's ad Ludlow does 74 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: the episode cast doubt on the automaker's ambitions. 75 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 6: What William Stein at Truist is doing is he's taking 76 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 6: a specific commentyl On must made on the first quarter 77 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 6: and second quarter earning his calls, which his investors should 78 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 6: judge Tesla's ability to solve for autonomy active tents by 79 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 6: going out and experiencing themselves and so what he's saying is, note, 80 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 6: is my experience based on this now obsolete version of 81 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 6: the software is it's not ready to solve autonomy. It 82 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 6: hasn't done. 83 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 2: That's Bimberg Technologies ad Ludlow. Tesla didn't immediately respond to 84 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 2: a request for comment on Stein's report, but CEO Elon 85 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: Musk posted to X that the car maker is deploying 86 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: an dated version of full self driving. The incident comes 87 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: as Mosk seeks to emphasize the company's broader artificial intelligence 88 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: efforts as sales of its electric vehicles have slowed. 89 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: Donald Trump says that he expects to eventually debate Vice 90 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: President Kamala Harris. He had declined to commit to a 91 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: scheduled debate, which had been booked in when President Biden 92 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: was still the presumptive nominee, but speaking to Laura Ingram 93 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: on Fox News, Trump had this to say. 94 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 7: The inswes, Yes, I'll probably end up debating. I think 95 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 7: actually the debate should take place before the votes start 96 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 7: being cased. You know, when you had a very good 97 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 7: second debate with Biden, a really beat on badly. The 98 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 7: problem was thirty forty percent of the votes were already 99 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 7: cast if you're going to have a debate, you're going 100 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 7: to do it before I think, before the votes are cast. 101 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: I think it's very important that you. 102 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 7: Do that so the answers yes. But I can also 103 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 7: make a case for not doing it. 104 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, speaking there to Fox News and referring to 105 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election and early postal voting, which begins 106 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: in some states in September. Meanwhile, Democrats are poised to 107 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: virtually nominate Harris and her yet to be named running 108 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: mate by the seventh of August. One possible VP pick, though, 109 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: has dropped out. North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper says that 110 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: he's withdrawing from consideration as this quote just wasn't the 111 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: right time. 112 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: Venezuela's opposition says they can prove electoral fraud. As protests 113 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: erupted in the nation's capital, thousands of Venezuelans took to 114 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: the streets of Caracas to protest what they say is 115 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: Maduro's fraudulent win. Opposition leader Maria Coriino Machado says that 116 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: they show they won more than double the incumbent Nicholas 117 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 2: Maduro's votes. 118 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 8: Good on you today. I want to tell all Venezuelans 119 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 8: in the country and abroad to all the Democrats of 120 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 8: the world. We now have proof of the truth of 121 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 8: what happened yesterday in Venezuela. 122 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, the administration is accused the shadow of being involved 123 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: in a plot to alter voting results. International pressure has 124 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 2: been ramping up on Maduro to provide transparency over the 125 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: election tally. In a moment, we'll bring you more on 126 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: Rachel Reeves's speech on the UK's public finances, plus the 127 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: latest from the US presidential race. But first, thinking about sleep, 128 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: as we often do at this time of the morning, 129 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: and where Olympic athletes are sleeping. Much has been made, 130 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: of course by the cardboard beds in the Olympic village 131 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: in Paris, but the question of who's chosen to stay 132 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: in the village and who's left, And this is something 133 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: our colleague Willian Town has been writing about. 134 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: Yea absolutely raffa Adele says that to live the full 135 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: experience you need to be in the village, and a 136 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: number of other tennis players decided to stay too, but 137 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: quite a few have chosen sleep maybe above the cardbole boxes, 138 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: although I've seen pictures of the corbole boxes and actually 139 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:53,679 Speaker 1: they're pretty nice. 140 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've you know, I've seen the video of Time 141 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: Daily jumping on. Yes, it's not like it's flimsy, to 142 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: be fair, but there's a lot of talk about who's 143 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: got mattress toppers, who's got extra pillows, who can make 144 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: them more comfortable. Some of the athletes have decided to 145 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: leave and go and sleep in a hotel, claiming they 146 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: weren't getting enough sleep in the Olympic village. But interesting 147 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: to get a peek behind the curtain with our colleague 148 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: Jillian tan of what the Olympic athletes are living through 149 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: I suppose while in Paris. 150 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely right. Let's focus then on the challenges that 151 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: were laid bare by the chance of Rachel Reeves in 152 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: her audit of public spending. How big are the problems 153 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: and how will the new Labor government solve them? We 154 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: were watching Rachel Reeves yesterday our UK politics were brought 155 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: to James Orcock with us this morning, So let's start 156 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: with the chances. Then we knew that she was going 157 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: to blame the previous government for their mishandling of the finances. 158 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: What did she sort of say about what skeletons are 159 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: actually in the closet. 160 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 9: It was a real shock, and I don't say that lightly, Caroline. 161 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: There we knew there. 162 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 9: Was a big fiscal hot and this was all about 163 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 9: sort of future spending. The government had basically penciled in 164 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 9: twenty billion pounds of civil service cuts. I mean weren't 165 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 9: sure where they would come. 166 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 8: Now. 167 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 9: The big revelation that generally has taken aback analysts and 168 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 9: pundits is a lot of money had already been overspent. 169 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 9: We're talking six point four billion on asylum claims, about 170 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 9: three billion on new policy commitments, and overspends on a 171 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 9: range of government projects. And that was money that had 172 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 9: not been disclosed, not to the OBR, not to the 173 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 9: Labor Party, and has genuinely taken aback. I mean, I 174 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 9: go to the IFS intitutficial Studies in the OBR, which 175 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 9: are the independent budget watchdogs. Now, the IFS were one 176 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 9: of the biggest cheerleaders to say there was a conspiracy 177 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 9: of silence over the election debates. After this statement, where 178 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 9: they had been having a go at Reeves before it 179 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 9: saying this is all sort of known, they went Rachel 180 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 9: Reeves is within her rights to feel somewhat aggrieved, and 181 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 9: it was always clear that spending plans were incapacible with 182 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 9: but the more cashould be required, but they were like 183 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 9: the funding pressures do jamely appear to be greater than 184 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 9: could be discerned from the outside. So in this blame 185 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 9: game that we were expecting, there is a genuine introduction 186 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 9: of big, big, big overspends. The OBI called one of 187 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 9: the largest budget overspends outside of the post pandemic period. 188 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: So what has the Chancellor said that she's going to 189 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 2: do about this? 190 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 9: I mean, let's start with the cuts. They are looking 191 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 9: at the three billion cuts for each civil servant department. 192 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 9: That's some of the forecast stuff looking ahead. They've cut 193 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 9: winter fuel payments. That will get a lot of domestic 194 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 9: headlines because it will affect pensioners and wealthy pensions quite specifically. 195 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 9: You're also looking at eight hundred million pounds in transport 196 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 9: projects to scrapped overnight, and that's just the beginning. This 197 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 9: is all going to add up to about five point 198 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 9: five billion saved in the budget for this year, but 199 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 9: leaving roughly sixteen sixteen point five billion short form for 200 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 9: sort of the rest of the government period. And then 201 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 9: on taxes, a lot of stuff in the manifesto is 202 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 9: coming into play quite quickly. You're looking at a pledge 203 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 9: to charge twenty percent eighty on private schools. Non dom 204 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 9: taxes will start in April twenty twenty five, a windfall 205 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 9: tax of the profits engine gas companies, a rise three 206 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 9: percent from November, and a warning of quote further difficult 207 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 9: decisions to come in the autumn budget. It really was 208 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 9: quite a blockbuster speech yesterday. 209 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: Yes, some people said, you know, Reeves was the right 210 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: to feel quite cross. Does the reality though, of the 211 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: numbers then further damage the Conservative Party? They're looking for 212 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: a new leader and what does it do to them 213 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: as they assessed their fourteen years in power? 214 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 9: I mean, for the record, they are quibbling these numbers. 215 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: Chancellor. 216 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 9: Former Chancellor Jeremy Hunt has written to Simon Case, who's 217 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 9: the head of the Civil Service, to say, excuse me, 218 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 9: just a few weeks ago the civil service signed off 219 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 9: on a lot of these numbers and didn't bring these 220 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 9: questions up. And so they are going to challenge a 221 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 9: lot of this stuff. It will be interesting to see 222 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 9: how that plays out. It will also be interesting to 223 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 9: see how the public takes the stuff. A lot of 224 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 9: what Rachel reason anounced yesday was not in their manifesto. 225 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 9: Now again, many think tanks have pointed out that there 226 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 9: were bits they could have foreseen. So the public sector 227 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 9: increases on wage those up of five to six percent, 228 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 9: that is something that someone could have taken educating guess 229 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 9: about some of these overspends. It would be very hard 230 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 9: to have known about. So I will wait to see 231 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 9: where the public lands on this issue in terms of polling. Frankly, 232 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 9: but for the Conservative Party with six leadership candidates to 233 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 9: go basically how they digest it to. 234 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you could suppose you could also argue 235 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: they've already been punished by voters of the ballot box 236 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: and the election too. But as you say, James will 237 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: wait to see where they continued to reaction to that 238 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: is James Walcock, our UK politics reporter, Thank you very much. 239 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: Well now to US politics and whether Donald Trump and 240 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris will hold a head to head debate before 241 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: November's election. This is the field of Harris's running mates 242 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: narrows the North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper dropping out. Our 243 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: Breaking News Managing editor Derek Wallbank is with us for more. 244 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: Good Morning, Derek. Donald Trump had been due to debate 245 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden in September, but there's been a question mark 246 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: really about that since Biden dropped out. What has Trump 247 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: been saying about a potential debate with Vice Persident Kamala Harris. 248 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 10: Well, you're right, and I think the one thing that 249 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 10: we do know for sure is that Donald Trump will 250 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 10: not be debating Joe Biden in September. Everything else is 251 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 10: a bit up in the air, right There had been 252 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 10: a thought from the Harris camp all right, well, we'll 253 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 10: just slot right into that and that'll be fine. And 254 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:21,239 Speaker 10: then we've been getting over the last let's say days, 255 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 10: indications from the Trump camp that that wasn't going to 256 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 10: be quite such smooth sailing. They originally said that they 257 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 10: couldn't finalize anything until Harris was the nominee. That process 258 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,479 Speaker 10: is almost locked up now. There had been some suggestions 259 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 10: in the Trump camp that they might want a different venue, 260 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 10: they might want different moderators, maybe a different network entirely 261 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 10: Fox News instead of ABC, things like that, and so 262 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 10: you're you're sort of looking at a kind of permission 263 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 10: structure to not have that. At the same time, Kamala 264 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 10: Harris's campaign and Harris herself have shot back with a 265 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 10: really simple rhetorical, which is basically, you're scared she has 266 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 10: been waging a much more forceful campaign against Trumps. In 267 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 10: her campaign's infancy, you see Democratic proxies all over every 268 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 10: cable news show that we'll have them calling the Republicans 269 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 10: weird literally their word weird. And so this just sort 270 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 10: of goes right into it where Harris is basically saying, 271 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 10: if you're trying to find all of these reasons not 272 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 10: to debate me, maybe it's just because you're scared of 273 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 10: not debating me. 274 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: So that rumbles on on the Democratic side, though, we 275 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: have no one person who won't be Kamona Harris as 276 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: running mate, and that's why Cooper, the North Carolina governor, 277 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: because he's dropped out. Who are the other possibilities we 278 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: should be watching, Well. 279 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 10: We're sort of looking at a trio that seems to 280 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 10: have emerged a little bit. Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania, 281 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 10: Mark Kelly, the former astronaut now senator in Arizona, and 282 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 10: Tim Wall's former school teacher and former enlisted military man 283 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 10: who is now the governor of Minnesota. Of those, you'd 284 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 10: figure that Shapiro right now is leading in the betting 285 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 10: markets as the most likely pick. Part of that is 286 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 10: due to the fact that he is maybe the most 287 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 10: popular politician in the most critical swing state of Pennsylvania. 288 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 10: The person who's been rising the most recently is Walls. 289 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 10: Walls is the person who, you know, kind of I 290 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 10: wouldn't say came up with, but certainly popularized the let's 291 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 10: call them weird attack that Democrats are currently enjoying. And 292 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 10: so it's a little bit of a you know, what 293 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 10: sort of flavor do you want to go with. There's 294 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 10: a lot of things that go into this. It's not 295 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 10: just winning an election. 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