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Speaker 1: Welcome back, all the Smoke, All Star Indiana were back

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Speaker 1: in your back in your old stumping ground. They still

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Speaker 1: got love for you out here. They got a lot

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Speaker 1: of love from before we get started. I'm gonna crack

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Speaker 1: over this Core Coops.

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Speaker 3: Light hey, because it's made the chill.

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Speaker 1: It's early, but it's made the chill.

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Speaker 3: Hey, and you know it's made the chill because the

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Speaker 3: mountains on their turn blue Jack.

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Speaker 1: You know it's eight o'clock in California. Hey, it's never

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Speaker 1: too early to start.

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Speaker 3: It's happy hour somewhere. We got a good one today, Joe.

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Speaker 1: I got a chance to sit down with this young

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Speaker 1: man right before he came in the league. Jeolani had

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Speaker 1: about his i Q and the way he approached the game.

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Speaker 1: And obviously his father had a nice run in the league.

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Speaker 1: But Son came through and crushed the buildings. Let's welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show, Jayson Brunson, Yes, sir, all Star, Yes sir.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't even like to say underdog because I don't

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Speaker 1: really feel like you've been. But I think at times overlooked.

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Speaker 1: Is that safe to say that people kind of overlooked you?

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Speaker 1: And and I really think you're making your mark now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, i'd say, no matter what stage of my my

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Speaker 4: carib in the high school college league, always in somewhat

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Speaker 4: overlooked at some point. But I don't really I use that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I guess I used this feel a little bit,

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Speaker 4: but like it is what it is. I know that guy.

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Speaker 4: I start at the bottom of the total polly every

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Speaker 1: So career numbers, congratulations on your first All Star appearance.

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Speaker 1: You got twenty seven points and six assists a game.

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Speaker 1: What has been kind of the secret to your breakout season?

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Speaker 4: Really, it's it's a lot of the credit goes so

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Speaker 4: obviously my teammates just being a dog, you just do

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Speaker 4: next organization for just believing in me and all that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously you can say that the work you

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Speaker 4: sometimes don't. And so my whole thing is I always

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Speaker 4: try to keep my confidence, but it's always really beneficial

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Speaker 4: when I have people on the side of me who's like,

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Speaker 4: this is what you do, believe in yourself, and that

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Speaker 1: A ton of accolades, but most notably two time n

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Speaker 1: C Double A CHAMPI at Villanova. Somehow you still slide

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Speaker 1: to the second round. But now you're really the darling

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Speaker 1: the biggest stage. You know, they called Master's Garden the Mecca.

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Speaker 3: What is it like the.

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Speaker 1: Energy and and and and the atmosphere back in New

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Speaker 4: It's it's rocking every single night. It's it's crazy and

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Speaker 4: So New York man, it's now when the next are good.

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Speaker 1: A recent It ain't been often, but yeah, a recent

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Speaker 5: For us, like for me and JULYI like you like

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Speaker 5: So to see you shining even more, you know what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying, coming coming out better than him and shining

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Speaker 5: that's getting so much joy from seeing you shine.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about you older, all.

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Speaker 3: The old motherfuckers like us came in with your dad

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Speaker 4: Though I appreciate that, I think it's like going back

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Speaker 4: to when he used to train me when we were younger.

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Speaker 4: I think, obviously, I'm not like six ' eight now,

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Speaker 4: It was like more mental than anything like my dad

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Speaker 5: Because it's Have you ever had anybody tell you that

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Speaker 5: Also a lot of other shit to me. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 3: I got a question.

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Speaker 1: I want to take it back to father's son, because

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Speaker 1: again I'm in that situation. Now, what was that line

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Speaker 1: first season of varsity, of you wanting it, but your

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Speaker 1: dad pushing you. How was that dynamic when you were younger?

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Speaker 1: Was it, hey, let's go get this work, or you

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Speaker 3: How did that work? A little bit of both?

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Speaker 4: Okay, I would say definitely there will be days where

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Speaker 5: I like that born in Jersey, you moved seven times

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Speaker 4: Honestly, hell? Hell? But it helped. I would say hell,

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Speaker 1: Well, that's tough too as a young kid because friends

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Speaker 5: Right around that time, you want to understanding it was

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Speaker 5: trying to go. As a kid, you don't understand that.

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Speaker 4: Long story short, we lived in Jersey for most of

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Speaker 4: Jabari just made it look too easy. Man killed just

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Speaker 4: Oh man? For you right here? So I'll say this,

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Speaker 1: You can see the ref blowing up, blowing and they're

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm, college freshman, you get a chance to start

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Speaker 3: Where'd you go to college? Yet?

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Speaker 1: Uh you the dr No backyard university. The streets are hard.

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Speaker 4: It was that year was fun. And I say it

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Speaker 4: But coach writes another one who like everything was mental,

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Speaker 4: I just could not let that happen in my three years.

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Speaker 4: So we got the game time, We're thinking, these these

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Speaker 5: Way, is it ironic school like I know he's married,

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Speaker 4: GQJ GQJ. Everyone everyone sees nothing like this. Everyone sees

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Speaker 4: Gerald jailed right, so he was all right. Everyone else

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Speaker 1: Right, Jerald's on some ship. How did you learn how

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Speaker 4: I learned a little. I learned it with obviously work

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Speaker 4: That's how we started practice. That's how we ended practice

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Speaker 3: How many pross on that team for.

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Speaker 4: Twenty sixteen, Yeah me, Michael Ryan Archidiac. You know Josh Hart,

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Speaker 1: So six seven, Yeah, that's you guys get a chance

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I had no choice. Also, the best part about

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Speaker 4: I finished three years finishing damn finishing out. But yeah,

435
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 4: it was that was the plan. Like I be thought

436
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 4: about it my sophomore year. But that's that's mom, that's

437
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 4: work man.

438
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 1: I love.

439
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 4: I can't give that dad said. Dad wanted me to

440
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,880
Speaker 4: do it, but Mom was like, nine.

441
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:15,959
Speaker 1: On, you make sure you did it.

442
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was I went How hard did have to

443
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 3: graduate three years? Yeah? It took me for and I

444
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 3: still didn't forty five and I even thought about it. Yeah,

445
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 3: that he crushing by.

446
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 1: What was your I mean, obviously graduation, National Player of

447
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 1: the Year, two time NCAA champ. What was your draft process? Like,

448
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 1: did you have to do a bunch of workouts?

449
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 3: You do a few?

450
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 4: I did nine. I did nine workouts draft processes. It

451
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 4: wasn't too bad, obviously, like nine workouts is a lot

452
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 4: like that with the travel and everything. But a lot

453
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 4: of people did more, so I couldn't make complain. Some

454
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 4: people were doing like twenty twenty five, so I think

455
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 4: I did a decent amount.

456
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 1: Any member of the ones, like guys you went up

457
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 1: against in the draft that were supposed to be higher

458
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 1: or whatever it. Maybe sometimes you hear those draft stories.

459
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 4: I think I think the one draft story that always

460
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 4: comes to minds at the Utah and the Grayson Allen

461
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 4: is there. Grayson Allen got drafted off workout. Really, yes,

462
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 4: the drafted the Utah off that workout. He dominated. Really

463
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 4: couldn't be mad at it because I wasn't playing terrible.

464
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 4: I think I think I was on his team too,

465
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 4: the three on three team. Man, he was cooking. He

466
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 4: got drafted off that workout a lot, like they knew

467
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 4: it right away.

468
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: So he was their type of player too, kind of

469
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: Matt Harpring type.

470
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 3: Matt Harpin was.

471
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 5: A problem because when I talk about Utah, aboud say,

472
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 5: I'm out of this conversation. You get drafted with Luca

473
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 5: gotta beat the U. I wouldn't say the best draft ever,

474
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 5: but close to it. Which what you think about the draft.

475
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 5: Plass my draft because I'm I'm just Dylan. But this

476
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 5: guy Dylan back here, he goes he's a big time

477
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 5: basketball head, so he goes overboard with some of the

478
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 5: things he says some times the best draft ever.

479
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 4: But I won't say I won't say ever. I would

480
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 4: say if it's the best draft class ever, because that

481
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 4: dude's a Hall of Famer, I'll say that that dude.

482
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 3: It was.

483
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 4: It's funny because I remember first medium, that language very

484
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 4: was hilarious, hilarious. Can he can speak way better English now?

485
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 4: But he came in right away and he just like

486
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 4: it looks so effortless, like my style. I gotta come

487
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 4: in every day, I gotta do this, I do that,

488
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 4: I do this just to make sure that like they

489
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 4: just see this man just come in the gym, they

490
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 4: do his work, and when he play pick up, it

491
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 4: just looked like he's doing that slow motion but he's

492
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 4: doing whatever he wants. And I'm thinking, I play like

493
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 4: my own page, like I control the game whatever whatever.

494
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 4: I do it a little differently, but his is on

495
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 4: another level. So from day one, I was like, this

496
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 4: dude is good. This dude's good. But like also I'm thinking, like,

497
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 4: like damn, this dude is good.

498
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 3: Do I belong?

499
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 4: That's what that's all like the type of doubt that

500
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 4: put in my mind, Like this dude he was he

501
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 4: was that good? I came in. You can ask any

502
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 4: vet on that team. It was like DeAndre Jordan's, Wes Matthews,

503
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 4: Harrison Barnes, j J Brea, Devin Harris, they all say

504
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 4: the same thing. The dude just came in and everyone

505
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 4: was just like wow and just we see it started.

506
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 3: I didn't who got drafted in bronze class him? Mellow right.

507
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 3: I just wanted to throw that out, the.

508
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 4: MAVs personally getting him and Luca in the same draft.

509
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 3: Okay, you didn't say that on this ship. He didn't

510
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 3: write it on there though.

511
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 5: Who is Luca off the court? The kid kid like

512
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 5: all of us? Yeah, big kid he was. He's a

513
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 5: cool dude.

514
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 4: Uh. He realized to just relax and kind of be

515
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 4: out of the spotlight, which I like about him. He's

516
00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 4: not like he doesn't like the attention on the earth chill,

517
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 4: just wants to hang out and all that stuff. He's

518
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 4: really low key.

519
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: He's like, what's one of your favorite stories that you

520
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: could tell about you and him or something happened or

521
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: practice games, travel, any any funny stories with you two ones.

522
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 4: I've been in a couple of times, for sure, Oh

523
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 4: for sure. And there's there's evidence too, there's video evidence too,

524
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 4: So I just had to throw that out there. Some

525
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 4: stories on me and Luca, I would say like the

526
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 4: longer I was able to be on the court, on

527
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 4: the court with him, BE gained much more respect. So

528
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 4: our friendship grew like that. Of course, obviously I wasn't

529
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 4: playing as much until I obviously it got better and

530
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 4: better each year. And so, man, we used to we

531
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 4: used to gamble on the plane. Man, you sed to

532
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 4: gamble on the plane, played tom I didn't playing right,

533
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 4: I didn't play. I'm cool cool. We used to play,

534
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 4: used to play tonk a little bit. So I'm obviously

535
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 4: the lowest uh paid player at the table and so

536
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 4: but uh, the only thing about Luca never pays his

537
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 4: bets right away.

538
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: Some people still some people was DJ the dealer because

539
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: DJ cheeks dj J didn't play.

540
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 4: I didn't play. I played like freshman, didn't playing a

541
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 4: rooie year. I played like closer to my theater. See,

542
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 4: we didn't do that.

543
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 3: I got to pay up.

544
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 5: You get off the playing that was writing checks.

545
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 4: Also like it's from the MAVs. I remember you know

546
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 4: how you get like pretty n Yeah, we got it

547
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 4: on a debit card, so we never got.

548
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 5: Cash right there. That's that's dope. How was Dirk being

549
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 5: around dirt amazing? Nunbelievable.

550
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 4: It was crazy because he's another dude is just a

551
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 4: big kid. Like he's a big kid. But I remember

552
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 4: seeing him like just like fighting to like get back

553
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 4: on the court because he had I think he had

554
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 4: then ankle procedure right before my rookieyear, so he was

555
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 4: just fine to get back. And I'm seeing how hardest

556
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 4: Due is working at year twenty one, knowing that this

557
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 4: probably is last year, So made me think about like

558
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 4: maybe just like five or six years ago, like what

559
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 4: he was doing to like get himself ready to go.

560
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: And so.

561
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 4: That dude's work. I think in his mind a year

562
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 4: twenty one was off the charts, so obviously he couldn't

563
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 4: do the things he used to do.

564
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: But mine's still sharp as ever.

565
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, for me, he's probably the smartest coach and probably

566
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 5: the first coach to well besides Pop, but the first

567
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 5: coach to actually believing me to be a star on

568
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 5: the team. What did Rick Carlile do for you and

569
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 5: what type of coach was he to you?

570
00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 4: Rick is different? I love Rick, Yes, he's different. Different.

571
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 4: When I say different, man, he's just he's hilarious. Like

572
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 4: from from the way he calls timeouts to everything he does.

573
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 4: This is a quirky dude. But when it comes to basketball, man,

574
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 4: he's just like genius, genius, genius.

575
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 5: He was.

576
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 4: He was a great, great dude. When I played, he

577
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 4: let me go. When I go, he let me go.

578
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 4: And so when I used to talk to AI about

579
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 4: the things I had to do whatever, Like I was like, coach,

580
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 4: like what I gotta doyada? He just basically just go play, man,

581
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 4: Let's go play. Be yourself. He told me to limit

582
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 4: my mid ranges. But I was thinking, I make him

583
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 4: be good, making me good.

584
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 5: But he's it's a mythod behind everything he say though

585
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 5: he everything is calculating.

586
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's calculating, calculated. Everything is calculating. He was a

587
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 4: great He was a great dude to play for. I

588
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 4: loved it.

589
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 5: He's the only coach man that I played from fourteen

590
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 5: years that begin the season he bring each player, the

591
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 5: starting five. He bring each player in before the season

592
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 5: and tell them what he wants them to do, so

593
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 5: you know your role, so it's not you're not going

594
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 5: out to step on nobody toes up. You're doing much

595
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 5: best for the team. And when the coach does that,

596
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 5: it's simplified. He simplifies it for players where the can

597
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 5: understand what he need him to do. He's the only

598
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 5: coach to do ever done it, and I think all

599
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 5: coaches should do that with players.

600
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 4: He's he's definitely straightforward, which I love. Whether it was

601
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 4: whether you liked it or not, Yep, there it is.

602
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: It ain't no guess work Knicks free agency. Was there

603
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: a chance in Dallas? The bright lights in New York

604
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: will call your name, talk to us about your free agency.

605
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: There's a chance, Okay, there's a chance. I really did

606
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 4: want to stay in Dallas. I think before the season,

607
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 4: before my fourth season in Dallas, the last season in Dallas,

608
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 4: we try to extend our contract whatever he can get.

609
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 4: The most we can get was like four years and

610
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 4: fifty five million, and so obviously want to do that.

611
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 4: I wanted to stay there. I thought I'd be there

612
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 4: for a long time, and I liked my role there.

613
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 4: It's funny because my agent was like, I mean, you

614
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: can do so much, you can do you can get more,

615
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 4: you can get more. I'm saying, like, well, like I

616
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 4: just want to be safe. I'm not trying to gamble

617
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 4: right now. This is not something you really gamble with

618
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 4: if it's out there, right, and so, but they were like,

619
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 4: we want to see where we're at, and like twenty

620
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 4: twenty five games into the season, but we were like,

621
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 4: all right, well, if we're not going to do it,

622
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 4: I kind of don't want to do it until after

623
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 4: the season. I'm not trying to think about.

624
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: This during the season, right.

625
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 4: Yeah. So there's a period where Luca went out and

626
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 4: I started to start, and I was playing really well.

627
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 4: I think it was averaging like twenty and like six

628
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 4: maybe whatever, And so it was about that twenty twenty

629
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 4: five mark, and so we went back. We're like, hey, like,

630
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 4: if the deal's there, we're thinking about it, like I'll

631
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 4: do it like right now. Still it was no like

632
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 4: it was It wasn't hard, No, it was just like

633
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 4: we want to see, we want to see something.

634
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: Like this was Dallas.

635
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 4: This is Dallas, doubt because I originally I wanted to

636
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 4: stay there, and so trade deadline comes, I'm like thinking, like,

637
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 4: if I'm not getting extended, I'm probably gonna get traded. Probably.

638
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 4: I think the way I've been playing like there's just

639
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 4: like I'm playing somewhat decent, and so that didn't happen.

640
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 4: And then yeah, so the deal came on the table

641
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 4: after the trade deadline. I was like, I no, I

642
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 4: think I think I've outgrown that. Now personally, that's what

643
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 4: I thought. I was, I think I've outgrown that. Obviously

644
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 4: going to playoffs, Luke gets hurt like second to last game,

645
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 4: in the last game of the season, and so where he's

646
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 4: out for the first three games, and I obviously did

647
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 4: what I did, and looking back and looking back and

648
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 4: so that all happens. I'm trying, I'm trying to think

649
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 4: of my timeline so I don't mess up. So they

650
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 4: we losing the Western Conference Finals, and I remember seeing

651
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 4: something on Twitter after the game and it was like

652
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Speaker 4: Mark saying, hey, like we can pay him the most money,

653
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 4: and so he says that on Twitter, he says that

654
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 4: in an interview like whatever whatever, like reterally right after

655
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 4: the game. And so I'm thinking, like, all right, I'm okay.

656
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 4: I just after that, it was like crickets from my

657
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 4: point of view, I can't speak to anyone else on

658
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 4: myag From my point of view, it was crickets and so,

659
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 4: and obviously I saw like New York making moves and

660
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 4: saw that stuff.

661
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: I was like home.

662
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 4: Coase to home two hours away from where I was,

663
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 4: or an hour away from when I was born. Parents

664
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 4: over on the East Coast. Whole family is on the

665
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 4: East Coast. So I started thinking like, Okay, this could

666
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: be a real thing. And so then here we are.

667
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: Be'st move you made?

668
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 4: That's moves.

669
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Speaker 1: What's the experience been like with TIBs? Old school, tough, those.

670
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 4: TIBs, I would say, me and Tibbs, his relationship is

671
00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: different because here's the backstory. My dad went to Salem

672
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 4: High School in Salem, Massachusetts. Tibbs went to Salem State,

673
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 4: so that's how they met when my dad was in

674
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 4: high school, So that relationship started there. And so they

675
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 4: played pick up and all that stuff. They knew each

676
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 4: other from just being in the area, so that relationship

677
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 4: started there. And then my dad was with the Knicks

678
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 4: when Tims's assistant coach when they went to the finals,

679
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 4: and so obviously the relationships continued to grow and never

680
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 4: and then my dad also coached with Tibbs and the Bulls.

681
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 4: So that's why I moved to Chicago and then he

682
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 4: was with the Timberwls with TIBs. So I've known Tibbs

683
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 4: pretty much since I can yeah, my whole life. So

684
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 4: when I got to here, this dude pushes me the

685
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 4: same way I saw him push any other player. Doesn't

686
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 4: really give me special treatment. Who's still who yell at me?

687
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 4: Who yelled at me like I could have a Wideman

688
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 4: shot in the corner. He's gonna yell at me for something,

689
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 4: so like, ain't it Ain't like it's no like pres

690
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 4: roll or special treatment at all. He just he pushed

691
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 4: me every single day. He wants me the best practic

692
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 4: every single day. And people say that he doesn't. He

693
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 4: lives it. This man was in the gym, is in

694
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 4: the facility yesterday after our last game, now giving me

695
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 4: a call at ten am, Like it's like talking about basketball.

696
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 4: What I thought about the game last night as a coach.

697
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 4: I haven't watched it. I'm getting, I'm packing, I'm going

698
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 4: to All Star. This is why I think he's always

699
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 4: pushing me that way. So, I mean, our relationship is

700
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 4: different just because I know him for so long, But

701
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: I mean I love that man.

702
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 3: What was your Team USA experience like and losing At

703
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: the same time.

704
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 4: I'll say this, my Team USA experience was great for

705
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 4: me and all the team, the guys going to all

706
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 4: these special places Spain, I would AaB be the Philippines.

707
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 4: As soon as we lost, right and we were done,

708
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 4: I forgot about everything that just happened. So it went

709
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 4: like it was that whole tip just didn't happened. That's

710
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 4: what it felt in my mind. I was like, you

711
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 4: didn't win. We didn't win. So everyone's like, oh my,

712
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 4: how was your trip? When I got back, I'm like, sucked, right,

713
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 4: we lost, Like he said, Oh, but you went to

714
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 4: like Spain do all this stuff like that doesn't matter.

715
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 4: Like I wasn't on vacation. I wasn't on vacation or

716
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 4: nothing like. I was just like the whole trip was

717
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 4: ruined for me as soon as we lost.

718
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 3: Oh school, this is that's cilic.

719
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 4: It's just real.

720
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 5: I think you're gonna get in an NBA title because

721
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 5: one way, I think he's just one of those guys

722
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 5: like me that just wins everywhere.

723
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: It's going to get it.

724
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 3: I think he's one of those people.

725
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 5: I hope, Yeah, are you hoping to be on the

726
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 5: next Olympic team? Twenty four men.

727
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 4: I couldn't say no unless obviously it was something was

728
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 4: to happen or whatever special circumstance. I'm always open to it.

729
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 4: I'm always over to it. That's just opportunity that doesn't

730
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 4: come too often.

731
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 5: Right, Congratulations on the pod Man Mad waiting for a

732
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 5: invite the Roommate. The Roommate showed you and Josh Hart

733
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 5: talk about the pod that come about the.

734
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 4: Pods, fun the pods. On the best part about the

735
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 4: power right now, not the best part, the worst part

736
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 4: about the power right now? Uh So we the first

737
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 4: two shows that aired, we did before our last lose,

738
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 4: Our Lousion Streaks. Everyone's like, oh, oh, once is the

739
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 4: pot started. Yeah, we haven't recorded since in a minute,

740
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 4: but I love it because obviously everyone sees the players

741
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 4: on the court, and obviously in the interviews and asking

742
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 4: like basketball questions or whatever. Yeah, me and Josh wanna

743
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 4: talking about basketball, but like we're talking about our relationship

744
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 4: and how we met and stuff, all the old stuff

745
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 4: to get us where we are.

746
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: Just the conversation.

747
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, like we just want to talk. Like people don't

748
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 4: see NBA players talk about what's going on when they're

749
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 4: playing in the n B a in real time, in

750
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 4: real time, and so I mean, obviously it's like it's

751
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 4: a second fiddle to what we're doing. We're hooping. We

752
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 4: were hooping right now. But man, it's fine. I'm excited.

753
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 4: And for sure, Yo, we'll set that up therapeutic too.

754
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 3: It's therapeutic.

755
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: We're definitely down to come to How did your partnership

756
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: with Bose come about?

757
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 4: They came to me, Man, they came to me. I'm

758
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 4: not gonna lie. I think bows surprised me because I

759
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 4: was I was an Apple kid my entire life. Everyone's

760
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 4: like Apple, Apple, and and Bose came to me. I

761
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 4: put them on and noise cancelationship is real. No, No,

762
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 4: I like it is real. Like you put the ear

763
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 4: box their earbuds in and on the plane on her

764
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 4: nothing nothing, man, I love it.

765
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: Shout out too, because they lay stuff with some stuff.

766
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 3: For our bags.

767
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: Yes, they did appreciate it here about those, but we

768
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: appreciate that. I wondered real quick before and we're heading

769
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: in the U the quick hitters to finish out the show.

770
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: But I just want to know real quick, what has

771
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: it been like playing with your college teammates in New

772
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 1: York of all places. Obviously Dante's been playing really well.

773
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: You're doing your thing, Josh got paid. Like what is

774
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: that like to kind of obviously have the college experience

775
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: but then have it like this on the biggest stage

776
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: in New York.

777
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 4: Man, it's fun, man, it's fun. New York is The

778
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 4: Garden is a special place, so we used to play there.

779
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 4: I probably played in the Garden in college about sixteen times. Yeah,

780
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 4: the biggest tournament. Whenever you played Saint John's, we played

781
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 4: them at the Garden. We had a couple like neutral

782
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 4: site games at the Garden, so I was like fifteen

783
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 4: and one at the Garden. I was like fifteen and one.

784
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 4: Is something that we lost one game. It was to

785
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 4: see in all a freshman y and the biggest championship.

786
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 4: I remember that. We'll never forget that. But playing with

787
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 4: those three, like especially in the place that we used

788
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 4: to play in a lot and it's awesome. You don't

789
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 4: like people talk about like you get these opportunities like

790
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 4: this and something you should really like cherish man, like

791
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 4: pretty much your boys used to like go at it

792
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 4: with every single day and practice. Like I said, practices

793
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 4: were hard in the games in college, so we used

794
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 4: to like ballot for me and Josh gott into a

795
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 4: couple of altercations. John Tay and Dosh got to way

796
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 4: more stuff because they used to guard each other and

797
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 4: like go at it. But to see where we are now,

798
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 4: like how we've all like matured, like not just with basketball,

799
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 4: with life, and it's it's crazy, man, it's unbelievable.

800
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 3: Blessed man. Enjoy it.

801
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: Enjoy it all right, Uh, quick hitters, first team to

802
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: come to mind. Give us your thoughts. Top five point

803
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: guards in NBA history.

804
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 4: Magic. I'm not going to order magic. Steph Steve Nash,

805
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 4: he killed me if I didn't say it. Jason kidd Uh,

806
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with my guy to cp C.

807
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 3: That's my dog. Did you have a childhood crush? Who's

808
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: your child crush?

809
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 4: Beyonce?

810
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: Beyonce easy call. Most underrated food spot in New York underrated.

811
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 4: I always do the overrated places, underrated.

812
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: Or maybe maybe one of your favorite low key spots.

813
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 4: It's a little it's a little Italian spot underground. It's

814
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 4: called Scalontonella Skeleton Ellen Scallon Tanilla. That's right close enough.

815
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 4: Real talent. I'm talking about authentic, authentic Italians.

816
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, it's your guilty pleasure. It's crazy.

817
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 4: Whenever I can't keep him in the house, oreos regular.

818
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: Double stuff to get.

819
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 4: Keep him in the house. One time my wife brought

820
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 4: him into the house and she tried to hide them

821
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 4: from me. I was looking for something else and I

822
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 4: saw them. I closed the doorback. I was like, damn, man,

823
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 4: I know where these are. Now I could have sleep

824
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 4: in the middle of the night. I'm like, I need

825
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 4: a snack.

826
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: With or without milk?

827
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 5: Uh either or it doesn't matter. Have you experienced the

828
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 5: Delta Bisco offs Delta? Never heard of them? My goodness,

829
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 5: you got Delta just for the cookies.

830
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: That's the reason.

831
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: Yep.

832
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: One thing you wish you were better at?

833
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 3: Golf? Oh? I like that.

834
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 4: Golf and video games?

835
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 3: What video game you play?

836
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 4: Play call? Do they play Fortnite? Yeah?

837
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 3: I would say n A four is when to come

838
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 3: out of college football. I can't for that for that.

839
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 4: I'll say that because I'll say video games because my

840
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 4: boys be calling me. Man, I'm always on the one

841
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 4: first one dying whatever whatever. Every days like I'll be

842
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 4: playing well too, and I die. Here we go again.

843
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, I'm playing well today, you're the weakest link.

844
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm always the weakest tripping I do it in

845
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 5: real life. One guess you would like to see on

846
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 5: all the smoke, But but you have to help us

847
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 5: get your answer on the show.

848
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: Close with yeah something you are cool rolodex of yours.

849
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 4: Josh would be the easy answer. So I'm not gonna

850
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 4: say that.

851
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 5: I want to I got I just want to talk

852
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 5: to him though, because he's seemed funny as hell.

853
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 4: He has no filter. I know he's I can tell

854
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 4: sometimes on our show he starts talking to him like this, dude,

855
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 4: just just Josh just torn it down a little bit. No, no, no,

856
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta do it. I'm like, all right,

857
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 4: but uh, it's very cool, dude, I see you gotta

858
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 4: be him, man, he's unhinged. Yeah, you don't care.

859
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, this would be a great place for a little

860
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: bit of me and him exactly.

861
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: Well, Jacon, man, we appreciate you stopping by your best

862
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: of luck in the three point contests, enjoy yourself in

863
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: the All Star Game, and then continue to push it.

864
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: Man.

865
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I feel like you guys

866
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: have something special out there. Continue to build on that

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Speaker 1: and best of luck on your run to the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Thank you man, I appreciate it. Thank yousing.

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Speaker 1: That's a rap man. Jason Brunson All Star twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four Indiana. We'll see y'all next week.