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Speaker 1: this should merely bow the great sea. Look at all

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Speaker 1: the stuff on this luminaries signings, Oh my goodness, posts

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Speaker 1: is very very nice. We're loading up, buddy, are you

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Speaker 1: kidding me? Postic one oh five luminary J W. Johnson

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Speaker 1: Eel let alone us. Come on, let's do a good

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Speaker 1: time because we're free from Gibbe's yoke. His yoke and

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Speaker 1: now how is he doing right now? What's the liver?

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Speaker 1: How much milk thistles he pounded to get through a day.

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Speaker 1: He's probably struggling, not only in terms of deliver but

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Speaker 1: He sent me a picture of this course that he played,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, is that even fun? Because is

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Speaker 1: it's going off of a canyon. Oh my gosh. So

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, play that course. You've seen Gibbe

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Speaker 1: like that is a brutal So you're hitting down and

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Speaker 1: some high elevation. That's Utah's gorgeous. That's that's high desert though. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: then that's what happens, and you get all the luminaries

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Speaker 1: talking with him. Yeah, that's very very nice. Um One

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking the call. I mean, Nathan,

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Speaker 1: I were talking about you. Think about where you were

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Speaker 1: Eagles have resigned Fletcher Cox one year ten also Darius

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Speaker 1: Slay So how he did it again, He's able to

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Speaker 1: keep a lot of the band together. Yeah, But Chauncey

427
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson tweeted out with five about five minutes into

428
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Speaker 1: our program that the disrespect is real with a bunch

429
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Speaker 1: of exclamation points, So maybe they won't be retaining his services.

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Speaker 1: I'm putting nothing past I mean, it's always in play

431
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Speaker 1: for them. But he doesn't seem pleased at the moment, certainly, Um,

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Speaker 1: should we go through where we are now? Is that

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Speaker 1: scheduled at any point in this program? We've got coming up,

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Speaker 1: We've got Jay luminaries, we got we got a luminary

435
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Speaker 1: to get to at uh you know at the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the hour. Yeah, and you got you got the

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Speaker 1: voice the voice No, So yeah, let's do it. We

438
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Speaker 1: got some time here before we get to wood. Let's

439
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Speaker 1: let's go through where we stand. I'm gonna do it all.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it off the top of my head.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. I know that you have it well within

442
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Speaker 1: your grasp as the senior media course, what do you see?

443
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Speaker 1: What's your title? Vice president of being in the dude

444
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Speaker 1: who talks should be Actually, I actually dropped my official

445
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Speaker 1: title on JW earlier today because I was like, do

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Speaker 1: you do you know what my title is? And what

447
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: did you know? And then I told him and he

448
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: goes who came up with that? And it dropped a

449
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 1: name from the past which was so apropos and accurate.

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Speaker 1: Nailed it. Senior Okay, media, yep, broadcaster, I mean, what

451
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Speaker 1: kind of what does that even? Why do you need

452
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Speaker 1: media before broadcaster. I don't know you're the SMB, SMB

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Speaker 1: SMB yea, yeah, Well, as an SMB, there's a B

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Speaker 1: in that, which is it should just be a B,

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Speaker 1: big B. It should just be a captain Nathan Zigura

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Speaker 1: with a giant bee huge B next to it. That's

457
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Speaker 1: all that's needed. Um, all right, So let's just go

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Speaker 1: through work though. Oh where ye yeah, let's just go

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Speaker 1: through where we stand. Um, if we're if we're playing

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Speaker 1: week one right now, let's go defense because that's where

461
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Speaker 1: I think the most changes. You've got Miles okay, Miles

462
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Speaker 1: on one side, double O on the other two. You've

463
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Speaker 1: got Dalvin Tomlinson in the middle, and then my guests

464
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Speaker 1: Jordan Elliott, Perry and Winfrey Perry and Winfrey. Okay, come on,

465
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Speaker 1: he's got it and there's no doubt he's got it

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Speaker 1: in him. He's got it to do it. Dalvin might

467
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Speaker 1: be great for him. I think he will be great

468
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Speaker 1: for him. Dalvin story is kind of unbelievable. Yeah, I

469
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Speaker 1: don't know how many people know this. And we'll talk

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Speaker 1: with him about some of these things, perhaps not all

471
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Speaker 1: of them. But at a four point four GPA and in

472
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Speaker 1: in high school was admitted to Harvard chose instead to

473
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Speaker 1: go to Alabama. Yeah, where he obviously that worked does

474
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Speaker 1: pretty well. Yeah. Or he played on a defensive line

475
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Speaker 1: that had Jonathan Alan, Jaron Reid and a Shawan Robinson

476
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Speaker 1: and Alvin Tomlinson. He lost his father at the age

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Speaker 1: of five. He lost his mother before he graduated from

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Speaker 1: high school, so he has overcome a lot. He was

479
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Speaker 1: a twenty twenty Walter Peyton Man the Year nominee for

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Speaker 1: the Giants. So this is a man of tremendous consequence.

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Speaker 1: He was a state wrestling champ. He has shot put records,

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Speaker 1: he plays nine instruments. I mean this is nine instruments,

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Speaker 1: shot put records, state wrestling champ Harvard, and overcoming tremendous

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Speaker 1: tragedy to do so yeah, I mean that's incredible, resolved.

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Speaker 1: And also he is a special guy, so I think

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Speaker 1: that'll be fun hopefully to your point, you know, he

487
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Speaker 1: is a guy that absolutely could could help a perion,

488
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Speaker 1: which would be great because the talent is immense with

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Speaker 1: mister Winfrey. All right, so we have the defensive line

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Speaker 1: set j Oka and Phillips at linebacker and a nickel

491
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Speaker 1: set your linebackers today. Yeah, j Ok, Phillips Fields Tockey.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of what you got there. And Phillips would

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Speaker 1: probably get the first run. I mean, yes, he looks

494
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Speaker 1: phenomenal by the way I see him. Literally just want

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Speaker 1: to stay healthy. The guy is like a statue. I

496
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Speaker 1: mean he is us and unbelievable because he's got to

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Speaker 1: stay healthy though. Yeah, yeah, but you're probably right. Then

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Speaker 1: the three corners of the three corners, corns with three

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Speaker 1: corners and then delp It, delp It and Thornhill. Let's

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Speaker 1: go giddy up, yeah, giddy up. Yeah, that is that

501
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: is quite good. Yeah. And then on offense, it's literally

502
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Speaker 1: it is the offense. It's the offense from a year

503
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Speaker 1: ago that everybody knows about. Yeah, so that's that is

504
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Speaker 1: the you know, wishless thing. And we've seen all sorts

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Speaker 1: of reports about you know, people calling on the Denver

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Speaker 1: receivers Jerry Judy Sutton as well. So, um, you know

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Speaker 1: there's been reporting that we're involved in that. Who knows

508
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Speaker 1: love to be It's just going to be about a

509
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Speaker 1: matter of what the ask is and what the give

510
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Speaker 1: up is willing to be. But you know that the

511
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Speaker 1: pursuit of of those talents are being done at this point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: mac Wilson. By the way, there had been talks about

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Speaker 1: mac Wilson. He is going back to the Patriots. They've

514
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Speaker 1: resigned him. Um. Micole Hardeman has answered the jan Thornhill

515
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: tweets saying, remember we came in together in twenty nineteen,

516
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Speaker 1: come on over the dog pound with the eyeball emoji.

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Speaker 1: I have, you know, tried to get a little perspective there.

518
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: I know that he fits what the Browns are looking for.

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00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: We'll see if that ends up happening. Did he respond

520
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Speaker 1: to it? He responded with the eyeball emojis to wan Thornhill. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he would be he would be what the

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Speaker 1: doctor ordered. Yes, um, you know with that with his abilities.

523
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Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, that's what You're at the point

524
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Speaker 1: now where I guess the reason I want to do

525
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: that On the defensive side is is you are you

526
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Speaker 1: now have a year you play what I love to

527
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: see Anthony walkerback, Yeah for sure. And I'm not alone

528
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Speaker 1: obviously people who play with him who loved having back

529
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Speaker 1: as well. So there's that part of it. Um. And

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Speaker 1: then offensively you roll out the same group now with

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Speaker 1: post it coming back. Officially, you can roll out the

532
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Speaker 1: same group. I think you and I are on record

533
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Speaker 1: a couple more weapons here or there? Sign us up. Yep,

534
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Speaker 1: you know that's the that's the operation, speaking of weapons.

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Speaker 1: What a human one of the all timers, the great,

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Speaker 1: the great Annarella, one of the all timers. So that's

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Speaker 1: where you stand, um and Dalvin Thomason was joining us

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Speaker 1: here in the two o'clock hour of the program. That's

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Speaker 1: where you are around the league real quickly before we

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Speaker 1: get to the big lubinary interview the converse. After we

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Speaker 1: were done and you were will take in everybody else

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Speaker 1: with every what everyone was saying about the afternoon on

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Speaker 1: McAfee with Rogers. Yeah, it did them finally by like

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Speaker 1: the middle of the night. People who were like, well

545
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Speaker 1: wait a second, he blew it. You blew it boy? Yeah,

546
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Speaker 1: Packers They're like, okay, sweet, Yes, it finally got to

547
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: the thing that was the most obvious part of that

548
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: whole exchange. It took like the middle of the it

549
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: was like I'm watching basketball last night with the boys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah and I and it's like fine, I chopped on Twitter.

551
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, people are finally like you and I

552
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: were talking about it as it was going on like,

553
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Speaker 1: what is he doing? Yes, correct, we were what is

554
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: he doing? This is if I'm the Jets, I'm like,

555
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: get out, get this guy out off a McAfee right now.

556
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Speaker 1: Oh it was the best thing they could have ever.

557
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Speaker 1: It was a gift, yea in his vengeance tour, which

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Speaker 1: that was it was a gift. And now the thing

559
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Speaker 1: is it's funny is like, for example, he took his

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Speaker 1: a little shot at Schefter. Yeah, well you saw Schefter

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Speaker 1: go on and say, well, I mean now the Packers,

562
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: you know, probably are gonna want even more than before

563
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: because of you mentioned everything, but also because now you know,

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Speaker 1: as Aaron Rodgers said, he's the best player to ever

565
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: play for the Packers now to be fair and Rodgers

566
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Speaker 1: to use the word debatably the best player to ever

567
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Speaker 1: play for the Packers. But I think now you're gonna

568
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Speaker 1: have like these reporters who are trying to get that

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Speaker 1: narrative going and listen if we know anything, and certainly

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Speaker 1: we know it, well Jays look at him, look at

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Speaker 1: the pleasure. Oh yeah, like him. He's got cameras, he's

572
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Speaker 1: got I love, got internets. I don't know what guy

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Speaker 1: ethernet cables. Well, it could be our guy. Uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's it'd be in our security detail. Jay, Yeah, clearly, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's no lord. He'd be a great, a great. Like

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Speaker 1: if you're a box or whatever and you came to

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Speaker 1: the ring and Jay was like rolling up behind you,

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Speaker 1: that'd be great. Yeah. Other person's probably put him my over.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna walk leave the next level. You know that.

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Speaker 1: You know that he uh he judges horse competitions. Doesn't

581
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Speaker 1: surprise me. Well versed, does he know? I wonder if

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Speaker 1: Donovan and Jay have ever cross pads in the horse

583
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Speaker 1: world as well as the Browns world. We'll left to

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Speaker 1: ask the voices. Maybe he'll start with joins us. It

585
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Speaker 1: could be your what's going on on the pondero? I

586
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: always got to know what's going on. A lot of

587
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: rain out there. You gotta be careful how to wet

588
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Speaker 1: wet turf? A lot of wet turf. Yeah, this is good.

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Speaker 1: Big announcement coming by the way, next huge, some would say,

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Speaker 1: some would that's coming up next big l luminary interviews.

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Speaker 1: You listen to Cleve the Brown's Dai League, brought to

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Speaker 1: illuminary the biggest of Ells in studio with us right now.

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Speaker 1: We have got the Browns partner and president of Hasld

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Speaker 1: Sports Group, j W. Johnson, j W. Great to see me,

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Speaker 1: to see you, Nathan Horrybuddy, I'm good. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: into what's gone on the last few days in a second,

602
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Speaker 1: but you're here for what we like to call a

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00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: major announcement, and that is evolution is one of those

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Speaker 1: things that's part of humanity, It's part of life. An

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00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: evolution is also part of the Browns. And we're launching

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Speaker 1: a new really evolved docu series, aren't we. Yeah, really excited. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: we've had a great show that we've had since twenty

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Speaker 1: thirteen and building the Browns, you know, five time Emmy

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00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: Award winning show. Uh, you know, really the first club

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Speaker 1: I think in the NFL to really kind of create

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Speaker 1: their own in house hard knocks style full season access

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Speaker 1: show that's been on our YouTube channel. It's great. It's

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Speaker 1: been awesome, right, I mean, obviously it's a it's a great,

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00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: great show. But you know, all good things kind of

615
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: must come to an end or evolve, And so we're

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Speaker 1: excited that we're gonna retweak and retool Building the Browns

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Speaker 1: and call a new program called Unleashed, which will be

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Speaker 1: out here soon. I think the trailer for the first

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Speaker 1: episodes on our YouTube channel now, so please be sure

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Speaker 1: to go check that out. And yeah, we're just excited

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Speaker 1: about the new program. So it's gonna be Unleashed as

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Speaker 1: the name of the show. It's kind of the evolution

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Speaker 1: of Building the Browns. And the truth is right, we're

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00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: not building, We're ready to go. We are we are

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Speaker 1: the Browns, and now it's time to go out there

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00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: and win. Time to be unleashed. But it'll be the

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Speaker 1: same type of all access show where you're gonna get

628
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Speaker 1: to learn about the players, get to learn about the

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Speaker 1: front office, and really get a peek behind the curtain

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Speaker 1: with what the Browns are gonna do. Yeah, Coach Sefanski

631
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Speaker 1: has been pretty adamant. Then when we have the show,

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Speaker 1: Colb and the Browns, just like the Browns have been built,

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Speaker 1: so can we change the show? So I think Kevin

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Speaker 1: may have had a little bit of an influence like

635
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: that on this, but yeah, totally agree. I mean, we

636
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: feel like we're ready to compete and ready to compete

637
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: now and excited about unleash. And I think that, you know,

638
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: the first first show will highlight Combine and kind of

639
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: focus on what we'd like to call our trailblazer and

640
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: Katherine's our assistant GM and first female GM in the NFL,

641
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: assistant GM in the NFL, and you know, really excited

642
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: about people hearing her story and excited about her trajectory

643
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: here with us and obviously throughout the league. Yeah, I

644
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: got a chits talked to her at the Combine. Unbelievably

645
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: impressive and right, she's one step away from from real history.

646
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's history that she's the first ever female

647
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: assistant GM, but to be the first ever female GM

648
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: and it feels like a very realistic possibility and she's

649
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: here with us as pretty incredible. Yeah, she's great and

650
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: done a really nice job and great football acumen and

651
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: then you know, just her demeanor and the way she

652
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: kind of handles everything besides the player personnel stuff. And

653
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: she's been great and we're just lucky to have her.

654
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: And obviously Andrew and her had a relationship in Philly

655
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: and was great to bring her over here. So it's

656
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: been good. I like that Trailblazer pay attention to the

657
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: scores there. Yes, So when you go see the trailer

658
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: out there, you mentioned the five Emmy's, you think about

659
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: Billing the Browns. It's been kind of the archive of

660
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: modern Brown's history, right from the retirement of the Hoff

661
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: and now he's going into the Hall of Fame this year,

662
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: the big win against the Steelers in the middle of

663
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: the crazy COVID situation, Nick Chubb and Miles Andrew Barry

664
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: back from Scout to the Eagles back as the Browns GM.

665
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: So it was it was pretty cool, but it was long.

666
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: And I think we're moving into an era where there

667
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: is more consumption of maybe more shorter form content, And

668
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: is that something that we should expect with Unleashed Yeah,

669
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, I think Billing the Browns was you know,

670
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: that normal almost twenty some odd minute, you know, kind

671
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: of long form piece of content that we'd also be

672
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: able to air on you know, on ABC here locally.

673
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think we're kind of going to shorten

674
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: the length. You know, maybe eight to twelve minutes, give

675
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: or take. Um. I think that's a little more consumable

676
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: for sure, you know, everyone's busy, but the more the

677
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: shorter consumption, I think is kind of with everybody's attention

678
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: deficit disorder currently. That's what's going on. Because these phones

679
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: will be good, and I think we'll be able to

680
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: get some more episodes out of that because it's you know,

681
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: those are are guys that than the production team that

682
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: put this together. I think, you know, some of the

683
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: best in the business, but takes up a lot of

684
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: their time and they've got a lot of other things

685
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: to focus on, so yes, they do. I think the

686
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: shorter the show, the better for them and better for

687
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: the for the viewers. All Right, So for Unleased, you

688
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: can expect about eight episodes throughout the offseason, covering the

689
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: tent pull events you already mentioned, the combine that'll be

690
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: the first one, free agency, draft training camp, profiling players, coaches, personnel,

691
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: breaking news stories. So it's gonna be timely. You're gonna

692
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: get those in depth profiles, but I think it's going

693
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: to also have a little bit of a different look

694
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: and feel. I'm told it's gonna be a little more

695
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: energetic and people should really like what they get to

696
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: see because listen that energy. We gotta get to September

697
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: and get ready to go out there and win some games. Yeah, exciting,

698
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 1: it is exciting, so part of this. And we mentioned

699
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: free agency there. And by the way, this begins March

700
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: twenty first on YouTube, the Browns website, the Browns app

701
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: that's YouTube dot com slash Browns. So it's the end

702
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: of a chapter but the beginning of a new one

703
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: with the Browns unleashed. But we've got some new faces,

704
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 1: all right. Last couple of days Andrew Berry's been busy.

705
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: We know Dalvin Tomlinson is in the mix. I'm gonna

706
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 1: calling him Double O Double is in the mix as well.

707
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: We brought back Ethan Postic aj Green. There's been talking

708
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 1: about Siona Taki Taki and hopefully we'll find out about

709
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: that soon. And then last night there are reports that

710
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: the Browns and wan Thornhill, the free safety of the

711
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs. That's right, two time

712
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion could be making his way here as well.

713
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: Kind of what was the overall approach to this portion

714
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: and kind of how is it played out for the Browns. Yeah,

715
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: I think you know, Andrew has done a great job

716
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: so far. Obviously we have to work within some of

717
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: the constraints. You know, we have a lot of vets

718
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: that are under contract, and obviously we're paying the you know,

719
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: our quarterback with the Shawn and rightfully so. But he's

720
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: done a great job. We know what our needs were.

721
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: You know, we really wanted to get another pass rusher

722
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: to help Miles out. We like Obo or double oh,

723
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call him as well like that. So, uh,

724
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: you know, high energy, high motor, relentless, love his style.

725
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: I think you can see his trajectory and his PF

726
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: grades throughout his career continue to go up. So we're

727
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: excited about that. And then you know, bringing in a

728
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: guy like Dalvin to kind of shore up in the middle,

729
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: which you're a big man, needed big man, you know,

730
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: great pedigree played at Alabama with the Giants. In the

731
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 1: recent with the Vikings, have heard nothing but great things

732
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: about him. Super smart obviously had an opportunity to go

733
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: to Harvard, but did the right thing and chose to

734
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 1: go to Alabama. But now we're we're excited and it's

735
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: kind of played out the way we wanted to play out.

736
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: Still some things to do, and I think, you know,

737
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: one m will be a nice addition in the back end,

738
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: you know, true Free. I think he and Grant will

739
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: play well together. Excited about his ability and then you know,

740
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: obviously he's been in places and knows how to win,

741
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: and I think that will also helps some of the

742
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: young guys. And bringing in people that kind of have

743
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: that of know how to win and bit of places

744
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: that you know, I've had big playoff runs or Super

745
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: Bowl rings, et cetera, would be good for the young

746
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: young guys in the room. And it also seems like

747
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: a nice mix of a guy in Dalvin and one

748
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: who were very established and then an ascending player in

749
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: double Oh. You know, we finally got to start for

750
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: the first time in his career at the end of

751
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: last season. Five sacks in those last six games, including

752
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: one against US, which I'm sure caught everybody's attention. But

753
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: that I kind of like that mix and it felt

754
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: like character and the type of guy. Because we interviewed

755
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: here on Brown's Daily earlier in the week, somebody from

756
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 1: Minnesota and they were effusive in their praise for Dalvin

757
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: Thomlinson not just a player, but the guy. So how

758
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: important kind of was that in getting this culture where

759
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: you guys wanted in the locker room. Yeah, so I

760
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: think that's super important. You want guys are gonna be

761
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: high energy, vocal leaders, right, I mean, you want more leaders,

762
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: and I think coach Schwartz will bring out a lot

763
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: of those guys. And you know, we have a young group, right,

764
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: I mean we've had I think maybe the youngest roster

765
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: in the league, if not the youngest roster are in

766
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,959
Speaker 1: the league currently. Uh, you know, so I think having

767
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: like a guy like Perry On and and Alex right

768
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: and all these guys learning from you know, Dalvin and

769
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: Obo and Miles and whoever else we end up bringing

770
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: in here, I think it'll be good for them and

771
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: it'll push them, and you know, they're gonna want to compete,

772
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: and I think that's what Kevin preaches, that we're gonna

773
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: compete every day of practice and continue to get better.

774
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: And I think these are nice additions for the club.

775
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: They're gonna want to be unleashed. Unleashed there it is

776
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: bring it all full circle. There right before I let

777
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: you go, because this is always fun. Any any any hints,

778
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: any breaking news you want to give us anything, we

779
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: should be keeping our eyes peeled for here in the

780
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: in the coming days. We'll see. We're not done yet,

781
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: so I know, and you're still working the phones and

782
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: and doing a few things. And you know, I think

783
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: everybody knows a couple of the pieces that we need

784
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: to add. Uh. You know, obviously think we still need

785
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: to kind of fill some stuff on the linebacker side,

786
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: because bring another person in to help on the on

787
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: the front uh. And then obviously I know receiver is

788
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: always a big thing that people talking about. So you know,

789
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: maybe we'll get some news here in the next couple

790
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: of days. But everybody's so excited about free agency in

791
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: the start of the league year. But um, and they

792
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: want it all right away. But things do take time,

793
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: right I mean, for sure, I think you know, I

794
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: want to I forget when the Amar deal was done,

795
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: but it was late, you know, and this thing's happen later,

796
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: and everybody wants to sensant gratifications. So patience. Patience is

797
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: a virtue. It is a process. It's a process, and

798
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: right you can't win games right now. So we'll take

799
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: our time. Let's assemble this team that we want to

800
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: unleash later this fall. Again, it is Unleash, that's what

801
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: we're talking about, the evolution of building the Browns. It

802
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: will debut March the twenty first. Our trailer is out

803
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: now for the first episode on YouTube dot com slash

804
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: Browns and again you'll be able to find Unleashed on YouTube,

805
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: the Browns website, and the Browns app What an absolute

806
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: treat we get. Oh no, come on, keep coming with

807
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: attention to the score. Oh boy, so we do have

808
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: something potentially, I know we have a lot of uniform

809
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes see, that's why I went open ended.

810
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: Anything you want to tell us, be on the lookout.

811
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: There could be something on the horizon that will be

812
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: new and different for the twenty twenty three season. Does

813
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 1: it involve the color why? I can't say. It could

814
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: be there, could be white somewhere. I don't know, could

815
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: be white somewhere. We'll see what happens, oh baby, And

816
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: we'll be back with more. Cleveland Browns Daily brought to

817
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: you by Baally bet Right after this, Cleveland Browns Daily

818
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: brought to you by a Bally bet coming soon to

819
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, Big Hell, unleashed. Ye, well,

820
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: you don't hit that again. Delicate. It's very it's a flower,

821
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: just very delicate. I think you're good now, am I

822
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: there's a hum? There's definitely. I don't hear a hum.

823
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: You're on okay, but I think yeah, there's definitely. Again,

824
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that. I think this thing's holding on

825
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: by a thread. Yep. See lost you Hello, now you're back? Yeah,

826
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: now I'm back okay, man. This thing is. One thing

827
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: that's interesting about that. That I find interesting about that, Mike,

828
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 1: is it's been problematic for I don't know about eighteen

829
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: months and there's been nothing done too. And it's been

830
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: nothing's been done too to fix that, just to get

831
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: it in stop literally seriously. Oh, I know it sounds

832
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: good though now it does. Don't touch, don't move. There

833
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: was blue, a blue little mini flame shot out of

834
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: right here. Yeah, I don't like it. I think it's

835
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: okay now though, as long as you don't touch it,

836
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: just try to keep your distance. Um, there'll be a

837
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: good shoulder workout. It would be a lot of good

838
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: scores there at the end. Oh, baby, a lot of

839
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: good scores at the end. White, you unleashed a lot

840
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: of good scores at the end of that. What do

841
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: you think about? What did you How did you think

842
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: I did there? I thought your enthusiasm was appropriate for

843
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: the man, So yeah, I think it worked for everybody.

844
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: I think that that was great. That's exciting, man, it

845
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: is exciting. Look I the when I first, you know,

846
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: started doing the show. One of the things I did

847
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: in leading up to it was go back and watch

848
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: all the old building the Browns as a little idea

849
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: of where you had been, because it, I like your

850
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: It really was a documentary of of for a decade,

851
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: of of everything that went into it. That's right. It

852
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: was great. And I mean you think of Drew and

853
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: uh connor and Jeff and those guys that are back

854
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: there legends and these guys shout out, yeah, the nation,

855
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: the nation in the mix, like these are the these

856
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: are the best, sweet Caroline. Yeah, the best people you're

857
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: gonna find. And and they do work. Oh gosh, the hours.

858
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: You know, It's it's funny you think about like something

859
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: like hard knocks in building the rounds and U what

860
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: you think Unleashed will be and you see whether it's unleash,

861
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be eight to twelve minutes. You know, Building

862
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: the Browns was twenty Hard knocks is an hour? I

863
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: mean is it? What is it? One one hundred one

864
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: one thousandth of the stuff gets on air? And that

865
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 1: I mean the amount of stuff that the cutting room

866
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: floor is. Oh, get some hip boot waiters to get

867
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Speaker 1: through their buddy you. You know, you have no idea

868
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: how much work goes in to get you twelve minutes

869
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: or twenty minutes of the cutting room floor is what

870
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: I would like in it too. Scrooge McDuck's vault where

871
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: you could just dive in and swim around in cutting

872
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: room floor video. There's so much of it, big Scrooge McDuck. Guy.

873
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: Love that guy. I could do not Yeah, no, I

874
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: mean it is. It's so they did. They put in

875
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: the work on that. I'm excited to see what they

876
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: do with this one. They're the best in the business

877
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: for a reason. As JW mentioned, they're the five time

878
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: Emmy Award winners. I mean, they crushed it, so they'll

879
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: crush this too. And it's it's exciting to see to

880
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: see where all of that goes and exciting for the

881
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: scores at the end with white could it be? I mean,

882
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: he didn't say it was a white, but it felt

883
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: like white. It was said, I said it you did?

884
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah by you? Yeah, that's right. So we'll see where

885
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: all of that goes. Um. I'll tell you one thing

886
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: from the From an NFL perspective, today has been quiet,

887
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: very little, next to nothing in terms of free agency.

888
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: We had a lot of work that we got done

889
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: last night at the end of the night, and a

890
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: lot of work that's already been done in terms of

891
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: reshaping this roster. The Voice will join us next on

892
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: those topics, among others. Will check in and see how

893
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: things are going for him out at the Ponderosa. You

894
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 1: have that to look forward to, which is nice. Second

895
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: hour of Cleveland Browns Daily coming up next right here

896
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904
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Speaker 1: visit with our great friend, the voice of the Cleveland Browns,

905
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: the Great Jim Donovan, joining us. We start where we

906
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: always do on the Ponderosa. We had some cold weather,

907
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: We've got slippery conditions. How we doing out there, buddy boys? Hey?

908
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: What bow? It has been a winter of major decisions

909
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: because of the temperature fluctuations. So do you blanket the horse?

910
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: Do you pull the blanket off? Do you take it?

911
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: You close the barn doors at night? Listen, guys, I

912
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: know these coaches have major decisions to make Sunday after critical,

913
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: critical calls on fort It can't be always as easy

914
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: as just bringing in Ja Kobe Purcette and letting him

915
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: sneak it. But I would ask those guys to walk

916
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: a mile in my boots and what I have gone

917
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: through this winter, and then we'll sit down and exchange stories. Jim,

918
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: have you considered hiring an analytics department so that you

919
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: could have a handy dandy one pager that says you

920
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: know green, Yeah, Blankets they're off or yellow. Oh, well,

921
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: it could go either way. No blankets must stay. I

922
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: think you're onto something, Nathan, I really do. I think

923
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: that there is a whole new avenue of equine care

924
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: if we do it that way. You're right. No, Oh,

925
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: that's great. Hey, Jim. It's been a busy couple of days,

926
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: and we, Nathan I were kind of going through the

927
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: roster and Tom Linson among others, kind of getting in

928
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: and now it feels like I know that there's still

929
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: other things out there. We're hoping for Anthony Walker and

930
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: we'll be able to be resigned and certainly receiver. But

931
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: you could now go out there and play football. They

932
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 1: had a lot they had to do on the defensive line.

933
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 1: What do you make of the moves that Andrew Berry

934
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: made here early on in free agency? Well, I think

935
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: that they were exactly where they had to go. And

936
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: I don't think that that was a big mystery. I mean,

937
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: I think everybody that watched them play last season and

938
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: came out of that season and said, Okay, what needs

939
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: to be fixed? You had to go inside to that

940
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: defensive line, which, let's face it was a worried going

941
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: into the season last year. I mean's it going to

942
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: be able to hold up? And so I think, you know,

943
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: we had our answer at the end of the year,

944
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: and I think then they tactically went after the people

945
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: that can help them do that, because I think when

946
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: you analyze and go inside the body of the lawsuits

947
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: last year, and I know that there were these catastrophic

948
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: plays at times, you know, the seventy five yard pass

949
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: uncovered again the Jets, and other big plays in the secondaries.

950
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 1: But in the body of those games, it was really

951
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: the inability to control the run. Example, the Chargers came

952
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: into town and played the Browns, and coming into that game,

953
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: they were like at the bottom of the heap in

954
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: rushing the game coming in to play the Browns. Yeah,

955
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: they were right at the bottom, which was you know, astounded.

956
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: But as that afternoon went along, I mean, they could

957
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: not control Eckler or whoever else touched the ball. And

958
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: if you really talk about the three losses against the

959
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: teams in our division, when we lost to those teams

960
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: in each one of those games, Baltimore really ran it

961
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: at US over in Baltimore, Mixon really ran it well

962
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: with a little help from p Ryan down at Cincinnati

963
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: because remember Joe Burrow didn't have receivers on that particular day,

964
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 1: and Nage Harris was really dominant in the game against

965
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: US over at Hinesfield. And you know, and then I'll

966
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: throw in the Atlanta game which was which was basically

967
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: all runs. So I mean, the inability to control that

968
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: run has to be rectified. And so I think, you know,

969
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: that's what they did, and they're on the road to

970
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: doing that. Yeah, that's how you get a three hundred

971
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: and twenty five pounder in there. You're right, Jim, to

972
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 1: just kind of add to what you're saying about the

973
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: Chargers game that was Week five, The Chargers ran for

974
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: more yards in that game against the Browns than they

975
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: entered that game with after four games on the season.

976
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: So yes, that was you know, I can't really remember that, Nick,

977
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: And coming into the game, I was just shocked at

978
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: where they were. It was like, you know, then I

979
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: was more Yeah, then I was more shocked as the

980
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: game went along as to what they were doing, no doubt.

981
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: So you get that guy, you get Dalvin Tomlinson, somebody

982
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 1: that can be a big player, good against run, but

983
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: also pushes the pocket well, which helps our guys on

984
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: the edge and Miles Garrett and and he's apparently gonna

985
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: wear number seven. I'm seeing ankum qu I can't say

986
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: double O seven. Now he's double O seven. That's easy

987
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: for me. I'm calling him double O seven Obo, a

988
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: guy who was an ascending player. What do you think

989
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,439
Speaker 1: about kind of that fit somebody? You know? Five sacks

990
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: in the last six games last year? Well, first of all,

991
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: on the name topic, Um, you know it's it's guys

992
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: with these names. They really drove Doug Deacon into retirement.

993
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: I mean really I did it. You know, the Yeah,

994
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: I remember the famous I remember the famous tight end

995
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: Michael Hoho MANALAUI and Doug said on this afternoon, we'll

996
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: just call him big Mike. Um, but I think I

997
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: think footsteps seven is great. I love that man. I

998
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: gotta tell you that that's pretty sharp. Um. You know

999
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: it looks like a real speed guy. Nathan a guy

1000
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: that really timed timed his year well right, I mean

1001
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: he had a great last six games of the season

1002
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: and then went into free agency. Had the five sacks

1003
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: I think in the last six games he had won

1004
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 1: against US, So, um, you know, a welcome edition. Interesting

1005
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: piece of the puzzle when I noticed, you know, once again,

1006
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: with with what Andrew is doing, the ages of these

1007
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 1: players all seem to be in that same twenty seven,

1008
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty seven year old range that you know,

1009
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: you really have players that still basically have a lot

1010
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: left in the tech. Yeah, absolutely so, and you know sending, Yeah,

1011
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: that's that's certainly the hope here. You know, Jim. The

1012
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: other thing that Nathan I have hit on a lot,

1013
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: and I think sometimes it was we you know, you

1014
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: think about some of the stuff going around around the

1015
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: fan base, and we'll go get Jesse Bates, We'll go

1016
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: get that. You know, it's like none of that was

1017
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 1: ever going to be in play because we're already paying

1018
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: a bunch of our very best players. So you were

1019
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: going to get these incillary guys and hopefully find some

1020
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: diamonds in a rough, get some ascending guys. But this

1021
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: very much is an off season. I Nathan I talked

1022
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: about this all time. It's a it's an off season

1023
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: with I think a tremendous amount of like, first of all,

1024
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: excitement to get going, but also pressure like it's time

1025
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: to go. It's it's time for our best players to

1026
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: be the players are being paid to be and so

1027
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: it's almost like whatever happened between now in September, this

1028
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: is the best radio, but it's probably the truth. Let's

1029
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: just see it in September, right, And you can feel

1030
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: that pressure kind of in the building. Yeah, there's no

1031
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: doubt about it. I mean there is that category. Are

1032
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: you a now team? And they are definitely a now team?

1033
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: And I think they would tell you we have been

1034
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: a now team since we put ourselves in the playoffs

1035
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and we have stubbed our

1036
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: toe for whatever reason, different reasons the last couple of years.

1037
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: That window can close on you very quickly if you

1038
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: don't gravitate towards it and keep it open. And by

1039
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: keeping it open, you keep adding to your roster and

1040
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, keep trying to perk it up a little bit.

1041
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: And like you say, Mary, that with these guys that

1042
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: do have on your roster that should be coming right in,

1043
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: if not already arriving into the prime of their career

1044
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: where they're going to play their best football. I love

1045
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: the signing at safety, you know. I love that, the

1046
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: signing of Thornhill, you know, bow and Nathan. I love

1047
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: guys that have played in big games. It's like when

1048
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: you draft a kid A lot of times. That's why

1049
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams say, I like going

1050
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 1: to get them out of the big programs. You know

1051
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 1: they've played in big games, because then the NFL doesn't

1052
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: really have them with their mouth wide open at AWE

1053
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: because they've kind of gotten a taste of it. But

1054
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 1: I mean, here's Thornhill. He's played in the biggest games,

1055
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, during this run with Kansas City. And I

1056
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: really like that. I mean, you know, I think that's important,

1057
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: especially when you know you're you're coming to a roster

1058
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: where you know, there really isn't a lot of playoff

1059
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: experience with our guys. Hopefully that's going to change and

1060
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 1: I will become repetitive and annual, but we're not quite

1061
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: there yet. So I think adding a guy with his

1062
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: talent but with his experience is just great. Yeah. I

1063
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: couldn't agree more in Thornhill at three interceptions career high

1064
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: last year, obviously played in the Super Bowl. He's a

1065
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: two time Super Bowl champ. He's played in three Super Bowls.

1066
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: He's played in two his first year is on injured reserve,

1067
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 1: but nine postseason games that he personally has played and

1068
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: played one hundred percent of the snaps on d fence

1069
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: in their playoff run this year against the jag Cincinnati

1070
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: and Philly. So a guy that three passes defense in

1071
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: the playoffs, in the playoff run this year tackle for loss. Yeah,

1072
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: he's got that experience, and he gives Jim Schwartz that

1073
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: center fielder, and I think that it helps in so

1074
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: many ways. Number One, we're gonna play more single high

1075
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: safety middle of the field closed than we have under

1076
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: Joe Woods. But two, it also really eliminates kind of

1077
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 1: the confusion. We talked about it as being an asset

1078
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 1: right that John and Grant could do so many similar things,

1079
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 1: But in reality, it's better to have a center fielder

1080
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: and then let Grant be what he is closer the

1081
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: ball where he has can do so many things. And

1082
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: now I think that really frees Grant delp it up,

1083
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: and I thought he finished the year very strongly and

1084
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: has a chance, I think, to take even a bigger

1085
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: step forward now with the addition of Thornhill. Yeah, because

1086
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: there was a period there, Nathan where I think you're right,

1087
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: there was a period last season where you know, people

1088
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: were kind of going, hey, maybe the jury isn't out

1089
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: on Grant Delpit, maybe it's in and this is as

1090
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: good as it's going to get, and this isn't good enough.

1091
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: And then I think, you know, something clicked. But he

1092
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: really started to play well at the end of the year.

1093
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about interceptions, which you know,

1094
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 1: he had the two against Washington, he had the one

1095
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve, and he was really all over the ball,

1096
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: But there are other things that he was doing. I mean,

1097
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 1: he was playing the run very well, and there weren't

1098
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: enough guys playing the run with him very well. But

1099
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: suddenly you could see, okay, all right, this is where

1100
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: we got. Now, this is where he should be on

1101
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: the field, and when he's there, he's going to be

1102
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 1: making plays. So I I, you know, I really believe

1103
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: that Delpitt is in a good, good spot. And with

1104
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,919
Speaker 1: the addition to Thornhill, yeah, it will be a more

1105
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: customary secondary with guys knowing what their job is and

1106
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: not trying to do everybody else's job and covering up things. Jim,

1107
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: we're talking about Thornhill, of course, And he had tweeted

1108
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: out to mcole Hardman, Hey, why don't you essentially, why

1109
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 1: don't you come join? And Hardman had tweeted back with

1110
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: big eyes, and that does feel like kind of what

1111
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: we're waiting on now, right is right we need to

1112
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: receive where you need a weapon or you need a receiver.

1113
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: I'd love two of them, but for sure one of them. Um,

1114
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: is that kind of the last thing on the wish

1115
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 1: list for you too? Yeah? I think so? Um, you know,

1116
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: I oh, definitely, I mean, because you I always felt

1117
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: as I watched them play last year, offensively they were

1118
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: at least a receiver. Short Cooper gave them a phenomenal

1119
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: year and Donovan Peoples Jones's arrow is definitely soaring up

1120
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: and they're So those are two. But the um, you know,

1121
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: because we kind of designate the team as as I

1122
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: mentioned a couple of moments ago, that it's a now

1123
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: team ready to win. Um, I really think that you know,

1124
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: these other young receivers that they have who still probably

1125
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: fall into the folder of project um and you know,

1126
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: you just you needed more from them and they weren't

1127
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: able to do that at this particular point in their career.

1128
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: Now maybe that's going to happen. Hopefully it does, I

1129
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: mean really hopefully it does for David Bell, and you know,

1130
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: I think that they feel not only just because they

1131
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: drafted him, but I think that they see enough in

1132
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: him that they're saying, listen, he should take a step

1133
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: up this year. But you need something. You have to

1134
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: give Watson another receiver that really understands the game right now,

1135
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: because you know, it's fine to be bringing people along,

1136
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: but it's so hard to win in the NFL. You

1137
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: need everybody that knows how to do it. And I

1138
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: think everybody would feel a lot better if you have

1139
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: another receiver out there that really knows how to do it.

1140
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: And David Bell, we know how productive he was in college,

1141
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: and yes, I think that we all hope that he

1142
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: develops a year two. But I think we're talking about

1143
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: a guy that is dangerous, a guy that the other

1144
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: team respects his ability to run past them. And I'd

1145
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: even go back to one play against Pittsburgh in the

1146
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: season finale. We hit Dashawn hit Amari Cooper for a

1147
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: huge cross or that got us down near the goal line.

1148
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: I think ultimately end up scoring on that drive to Najoku,

1149
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 1: but it was Jalen Darden who kind of cleared everything

1150
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: out of the post. And you could see the two

1151
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: Steelers say, oh my gods, guys actually fast. They turn

1152
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: and run and now you create space that space creator.

1153
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: And Darden showed that he could do it on some level,

1154
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: but you know he didn't wasn't able to stick with Tampa.

1155
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: I don't think you can count on him per se.

1156
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: But we need somebody that can do that. Yeah, exactly,

1157
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And I remember that play well,

1158
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: and I remember you pointing it out and then when

1159
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: you look at it, you could see that the Steelers

1160
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: really had to open up and commit and cover him,

1161
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: and then it just opened the field up for just

1162
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: John Watson. So there's no doubt about it. You know

1163
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: that the possibilities are there for them to do a

1164
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: lot of great things if they can get that kind

1165
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: of a receiver. And I'm sure that's what they're working on,

1166
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: because they have really meticulously gone down the list of needs.

1167
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 1: And I don't know if people didn't feel they were

1168
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: doing it quick enough on the first day. It's the

1169
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: most importantly to just get it done and get it

1170
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: done the right way. Never mind that there's no extra

1171
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: points for the speed they you get. These guys signed that,

1172
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I think they've gone down the

1173
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: list of what they've needed, and you know, particulously are

1174
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: going about their business, and I would think wide receiver

1175
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: right now is next on the list, a very very

1176
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: important piece to it. But certainly to get that defense

1177
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 1: fixed was really a priority number one, I think, Jim,

1178
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: I love your opinions on almost on anything, quite frankly,

1179
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: and so I wanted to get your view of the

1180
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: Rogers thing from yesterday. Thank you. We were watching in

1181
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: just amazement because it was almost covered as if he

1182
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: was a free agent, and it's like, wait a second,

1183
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: the packers. He's still a packer. What did you make

1184
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: of that scene yesterday? But the whole thing, you know,

1185
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: both that that whole relationship with Pat McAfee has been amazing.

1186
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not underselling Pat McAfee at all, but

1187
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: I mean his connection with Aaron Rodgers through these years

1188
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: now has really kind of put that show on the map.

1189
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a must go to, right Um.

1190
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: You know, It's like, uh, it was like Larry King

1191
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: when he had his interview show on CNN and all

1192
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden, this guy, this billionaire Ross Perow, is

1193
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: gonna run is going to run for president as this

1194
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: third party and the go to guy Ross Pero made

1195
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: the go to guy Larry King. And if you really

1196
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: want to know about Ross Perow, you had to watch

1197
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: the Larry King Show. So if you really want to

1198
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: know about Aaron Rodgers, you have to go to Pat mccabee. Um,

1199
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: it's amazing how much attention he continues to gather and

1200
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: demand for what he's going to do. And it's really

1201
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: every year now, I mean, is he gonna play? Where

1202
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: is he gonna play? It's it's unbelievable that if I

1203
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: like that can command that it will be interesting, not if,

1204
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: but probably when this deal is done. And I know

1205
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people are bringing this side of the

1206
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 1: topic up. How is he going to handle the New

1207
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: York cover things that New York media, which will be

1208
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: exactly different from Green Bay? You know it really is,

1209
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: I mean eighteen kind of cozy years in Green Bay.

1210
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: I mean, every movie makes, everything he does is going

1211
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: to be under a huge microscope and on the back

1212
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: pages of the New York Post and all of the

1213
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: papers back there, all the tabloids back there in New York.

1214
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: But it was really it's really entertaining I think when

1215
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: you're not involved, you know, to be an audience member

1216
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:35,439
Speaker 1: and watch what's going on. There were you shocked at

1217
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: and it was something that we said immediately and you

1218
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: you alluded to in the open, just that he still

1219
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: needs the packers to agree to some form of compensation

1220
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: with the Jets. And now you've got all the Jets

1221
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: fans worked up into a frenzy. You've got the Jets

1222
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: social media account tweeting out stuff about Aaron Rodgers and

1223
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: how excited they are for him to come be a Jet,

1224
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: and the Packers have all the lever as far as

1225
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: I see it. And it didn't take in Bodar talking.

1226
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: It wasn't until last night people realize like, hey, maybe

1227
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: he just helped the Packers out inadvertently with his little

1228
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: tirade there, and they are under no obligation to trade him,

1229
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: and they can basically ask for whatever they want. Yeah,

1230
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: And they can really you know, go into the old

1231
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: North Carolina four corners and kind of stall it, right.

1232
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: I mean, they can really kind of tie things up,

1233
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: you know, by just hanging on and hanging on for

1234
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: whatever the deal is going to be, you know, in

1235
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: a very small way. Now, much different It was kind

1236
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: of like the Baker Mayfield situation last year, where it

1237
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: was obvious that the Bronx were probably going to move him,

1238
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: but what kind of marketability did he have? Far different

1239
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: from Aaron Rodgers, as I just pointed out, But you know,

1240
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 1: the timetable of it kept going deeper and deeper and

1241
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: closer and closer to camp and mini camp and beyond that,

1242
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: which is gonna be ready for training camp. Now. I

1243
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: don't think this is going to go that far at all,

1244
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: but you're right of it is going up. When this

1245
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: guy is saying, hey, listen, I'm very excited about being

1246
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 1: a Jet and playing for the Jets and going to

1247
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: New York and playing there, I'm comfortable with that. Uh,

1248
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: these are the guys I want the Jets to go.

1249
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: Get to come and join me. Um. It's talk about

1250
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: putting the cart before the horse. Really, it's been amazing

1251
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: to watch. It's quite a story. It really has Jim,

1252
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: we'll get you out of here on this one. Tomorrow

1253
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: is Saint Patrick's Day. Happy Saint Patrick's Day to you,

1254
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 1: my friend. Do you have a thank you? Do you

1255
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: have a favorite tradition that you could share or there

1256
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 1: are what are the things that you do every year

1257
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: on Saint Patrick's Day. Great question. Well, I have to

1258
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: tell you. We go to the basics and we have

1259
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: a huge as we used to call it back in Boston,

1260
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: and I don't know if they call it here, but

1261
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: we have the huge boiled dinner. We have the corn beef, cabbage, potatoes, carrots,

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Speaker 1: you know, mustard if you want it, bread, if you

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Speaker 1: want to make the corn beef into a sandwich. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, That's that's what we do. My wife does.

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Speaker 1: My wife, Cheryl does an amazing job with that. Not

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Speaker 1: not a gene of Irish in her, but she has

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Speaker 1: learned well, so perfect right day and I really look

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Speaker 1: forward to it. And not only is that day good,

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Speaker 1: but the leftover's bow off of that, oh, she'll are

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Speaker 1: exceptional the next day, which generally is a recovery as

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Speaker 1: we all know. YEA, certainly it would be. Is it

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Speaker 1: is there? Is it possible? As you know, I'm a

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Speaker 1: fan of the whiskey. Is it possible that the jamison

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Speaker 1: a bush mills? Yea, we go in there, Yeah, a

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Speaker 1: little redbreast. Sure, I have not ever had that, I

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Speaker 1: you know, I definitely the jamison, Definitely the bush Mills.

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Speaker 1: Uh love it, no doubt about it. Love it, love it.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna pl couple fingers of one tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: your honor sir, thank you for your time as always,

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Speaker 1: Thank you have a great one. Happy Saint Patrick's Day,

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01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: guys and the rest of the Free Agency. Thanks Jim

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01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: and Joy. That's is that a sunny time? We have

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01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: a bomb that I'm not like. It's the best Your joys,

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01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: your joy. Dalvin Tomlinson will join us sometime between now

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Speaker 1: and the end of the program. We hope we'll listen

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Speaker 1: to Cleveland Browns Daily You are rather brought you by

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Speaker 1: bally Bet coming soon to Ohio and eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. All right,

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01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: welcome back. Get to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought you by

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Speaker 1: bally Bet, coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Joined in studio or privilege by our new defensive tackle

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01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: Dalvin Tomlinson, joining us here in studio and I'll give

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Speaker 1: you a scouting report, big Man. We need you, buddy,

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01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: bigg Man. That's right, Light off the bus guy, Welcome

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01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: to town. This is so exciting for us. It was

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01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: a position of need, obviously at the very very highest priority.

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01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: You were on a wish list that was very short.

1299
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: How did this marriage come about? And how excited are

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01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: you to be here? It came about? You know. I

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01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 1: heard like as soon as free agency started, Cleveland was

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Speaker 1: the first team they call it. As soon as they

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01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: were available to call, they call it. And just with

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01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: the scheme and everything I saw everybody and the players

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01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: and everything, I just felt like it was the perfect

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01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: mix together. And I just felt like it's a great

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01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: place for me. So you've obviously you've played against the

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01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: Browns a few times as a member of the Vikings

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01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 1: and the Giants had a sack against us with the

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Speaker 1: Vikings back in Week four a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: So that's something we file away. The other defensive line,

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01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm calling them double low had a sack against the

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Speaker 1: Browns last year. When you know you have a game

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01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: like that, or you say you do something, did they do?

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01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: They bring that up. They're like, oh, yeah, you really

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01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: stood out against us and so and you know, we've

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Speaker 1: got a good interior of our offensive line. So it's

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Speaker 1: a sack against us from the interior is a sack

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Speaker 1: of great consequence. Oh yeah, you know, it really doesn't

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Speaker 1: come up that much like that, But UM, I think

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Speaker 1: they're like men here and there, maybe here and yeah,

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01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 1: you know it's um, it's it's something when when stars

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01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 1: kind of a line and for us, I think that

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Speaker 1: it feels like it does with with you signing here. Um,

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01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: you think about what Jim Schwartz wants to do and

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Speaker 1: what he requires out of the defensive tackle position, it

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Speaker 1: seems like it fits your game perfectly. Um, we already

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01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: have a guy named Miles Garretto. I'm sure you're familiar

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Speaker 1: with on the defensive line, and so you needed somebody

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Speaker 1: who could do that on the interior. Um, when when

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Speaker 1: you're going through free agency, you know you mentioned the

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Speaker 1: Browns were the first to call, and you're trying to

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Speaker 1: find the perfect fit. Um, where were those checkbox boxes

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Speaker 1: to check? In terms of scheme with Schwartz playing with

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Speaker 1: somebody like Miles, I feel like those is very high

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Speaker 1: priority on the checkbox lists. And um, like like you said,

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Speaker 1: this attacking and you know, being big and powerful too.

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Speaker 1: Using that all together, he's gonna call us a lot

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01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 1: of half this year. Yeah, when you know, and in

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01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 1: Minnesota you had Zadarius Smith on one side Daniel Hunter

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01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 1: on the other. When you can push the pocket, now,

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01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,560
Speaker 1: it may not show up on your stature, right, you

1343
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: have gotten your sacks every year a couple two and

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01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: a half, three and a half. You contribute to a

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01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: lot of those sex because if a quarterback can't step up,

1346
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: those guys coming around the edge can get there. Is

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01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 1: that something that you take a lot of pride in

1348
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 1: and you know that, hey, if I can push this pocket,

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01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett is going to get there most definitely, because

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01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a very selfless player and as

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01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 1: long as my if I do good, if I get

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01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: the sack, that's fun. But also if my teammates get

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01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: to sack, I feel like I got to sack too. Hey,

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01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: you get rewarded handsomely for that, by the way, congratulations

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Speaker 1: on that. Yeah exactly. So it was just like, as

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Speaker 1: long as he gets a sack, I'm going to celebrate

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01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 1: like I got the sack with him. So it's just

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01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: like we're gonna go out there and have some fun

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Speaker 1: with it. And you've been accustomed to this, I mean

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Speaker 1: you think back to Alabama with the Giants, Like you've

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01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: always played amongst great players and great defensive lines. Is

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Speaker 1: there a common thread that those groups had that maybe

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Speaker 1: can apply here. Oh yeah, as long as you just

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01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,600
Speaker 1: a lot of players that actually you just want to

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01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: be great. If everybody wants to be great and everybody

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Speaker 1: wants to play for just themselves at each other, it's

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Speaker 1: like the Scots and limit. Let me think about that

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01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: line at Alabama, Jonathan Allen, Jaron read a Sean Robinson

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Speaker 1: and you like that is that's insane away? It is

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Speaker 1: the bam away. But were you does that? Does that

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Speaker 1: almost kind of spoil you when you come into the NFL?

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Speaker 1: Because I would imagine it it probably felt pretty easy

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01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: for the four of you to do what you wanted

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01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: to do to offensive lines in college most definitely. And um,

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01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: just like even that year and it was one year,

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01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 1: then next year it was me Jonathan Allen and Dern Paynes.

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Speaker 1: It was just like every year, You're like, I don't

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01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: got to worry about that, so I know they got it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And then you gotta think about the years also we

1380
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 1: had like C. J. Mosley, Reuben Foster and all those

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Speaker 1: Reggie Raglan, all those great linebackers behind you. It's just

1382
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: like they're not gonna run the ball out here. They

1383
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: gotta go on the side on to throw the ball

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01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: like you gotta take your chances. Yeah, how does that

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01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 1: I can't imagine. I mean I probably know the prior

1386
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 1: rhetorical question. But the way that that prepares you though

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01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:56,799
Speaker 1: for the league, because there's a standard with Sabans defenses

1388
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 1: that have been there forever um and you know it's

1389
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 1: college football, but it's professional sports. You're playing for Alabama, man,

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01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way other way around it. Does

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01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 1: that make the transition to the NFL for you? Does

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01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 1: that make it easier? Yeah? Most definitely. Just like you said,

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01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: the way coach Saman has a standard, he expects the

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01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: best out of you every single play, and when you

1395
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 1: get to the league of this, the same exact standard

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01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 1: you gotta uphold to So it just it makes you

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01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: that much more prepared for it. So when you actually

1398
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 1: get here, there's not a surprise to you. Have you

1399
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 1: already heard from the linebackers because we talked about you

1400
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 1: can help a guy like Miles, but you're a linebacker's

1401
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: best friend too, right, you can help keep them clean

1402
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: let them flow to the ball. When you're a penetrating

1403
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: you're disrupting things in the backfield, or sometimes you're eating

1404
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: up two guys so they can run around, or I'm

1405
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: sure they were as excited as anybody. I'll tell you this,

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01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't know the last time we had a three

1407
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty pounder on this roster. It's been a

1408
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 1: long time. We've brought Andrew Billings in one year, but

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01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: Covid he was he opted out that season, So that's

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01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 1: a I mean, you've made a lot of people happy

1411
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: coming here. Yeah, the Linebacker's letter most definitely. I feel

1412
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 1: like every linebacker I played in front of it. I

1413
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 1: think we've like super close friends and taking care of

1414
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 1: you right. Thank you you help us rack up those stats.

1415
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: We were before you came on. We were having a

1416
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: conversation off air about your the life you've lived and

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01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 1: the experiences that you've had. And I know we'll get

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Speaker 1: into some of that in a second, but um, I

1419
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: think of some of our young guys and um, and

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01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: we're just now getting to know you right now, but

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01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: you come across as a very natural leader. How much

1422
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: of that are you comfortable with? We've got some young

1423
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: guys on that d front that that certainly need to

1424
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: be helped along along the way. How comfortable you are

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01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: you in that role? I'm super comfortable in that role.

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01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 1: Was just like, um, yeah, like you said, as I

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01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: feel like it's natural. Um, I always want to help

1428
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 1: people outside of myself as well. Because if I'm helping

1429
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,560
Speaker 1: other people get better and I'm also focusing on me

1430
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: getting better too, We're just going to be a better team.

1431
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 1: So I'm so used to it. And um, yeah, I

1432
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: just want to help everybody I possibly can. And Bo

1433
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 1: alluded to it. Four point four GPA got into Harvard football,

1434
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: stole your heart, as you said earlier today, go to

1435
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: Alabama state wrestling champion, a renaissance ban with the instruments.

1436
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 1: But I don't know how many people know. You've overcome

1437
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: tremendous tragedy and I'm certainly very sorry for your losses

1438
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: and I can't imagine what that was like to go through.

1439
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 1: But how has that shaped you? And to look back

1440
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: at all you've been able to accomplish under what I

1441
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,839
Speaker 1: would call incredible dress is it's just a real testament

1442
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,640
Speaker 1: to you and everybody who takes a village. They say right,

1443
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: who came around you to support you as a young man. Yeah,

1444
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 1: like you know, I guess you could give shout out

1445
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: my family and my fiance. It was always with me

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01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 1: since the day one. And yeah, it was tough. It

1447
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 1: wasn't an easy journey. It was a lot of times

1448
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: I questioned, like why me, and also like I just

1449
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 1: remember my mom, like she's my way no matter what.

1450
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: She's the reason I wanted to play football in the

1451
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 1: first place, because our first year of playing was four

1452
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: years old, and I remember how excited she was to

1453
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 1: see my brother and my older cousin play. And so

1454
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 1: every time I get on the football field, I always

1455
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: looking to the soil and see her smile type thing.

1456
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: And that was all the way through high school until

1457
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 1: I lost her, and then I just even after that, like, uh,

1458
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: play for her on her every time up in my

1459
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:08,719
Speaker 1: head and it dirt and to go and hit somebody,

1460
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 1: and um yeah, I have a huge football family. Everybody

1461
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: loves football, and um yeah, I just I feel like

1462
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: all the women in my family are the biggest football fans.

1463
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: So it's great to have that support though that's allowed

1464
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: you to do that, and you obviously have tremendous inner

1465
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: strength as well to kind of overcome that. And you know,

1466
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: it's funny you were talking about some of the young

1467
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: guys and being a leader. You know, people are complain,

1468
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 1: oh my car is this or you're like, listen, I've

1469
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 1: gone through some unfathomable stuff and I'm here and I

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01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: figured out how to do it, Like you can figure

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01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: this out, right. I think that would be a It's

1472
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: a powerful thing to be able to say to somebody

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01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 1: your life is powerful and what you've accomplished. So congratulations

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01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 1: you on that again. For you to be a man

1475
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 1: a young you gotta be a man at a young age.

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01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: And I mean we looked at some of the stuff

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01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: that you've it's incredible what you've done. Like you've taken

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01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: a lot in your life, and I imagine you get

1479
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 1: into a room and you're you're everybody's a pro, and

1480
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,799
Speaker 1: everybody's the best at what they've done and life experience.

1481
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 1: It was a long way. So we had a guy

1482
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 1: on from Minnesota this week who loved him not phrasing

1483
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: you in terms of what you are in the locker room,

1484
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 1: in terms of what you are as a player. You

1485
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 1: can feel it like it's really important to you. The

1486
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: way you carry yourself, the way that you handle your business,

1487
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: and some of that comes, i'm sure from having to

1488
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: grow up at a very young age and deal with

1489
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,759
Speaker 1: some really hard stuff early. It was definitely I agree

1490
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, And it's been one thing that is

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01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 1: consistent anybody that we've ever had and here, whether it's

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01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,759
Speaker 1: somebody with the Browns like a Joel Bitonio or Christian

1493
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 1: Kirksey at the time, or somebody we brought in like

1494
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 1: we brought Jacobe Broussette last year. If you're a Walter

1495
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 1: Payton Man of the Year nominee for your team, you

1496
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: are a different You're a different breed and it passes through.

1497
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 1: What did that mean to you when you got that

1498
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 1: distinction from the Giants in twenty twenty, Oh yeah, it

1499
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: meant a lot. It was a big deal for me,

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01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,640
Speaker 1: just because even with that year, with so much going on,

1501
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: were still reaching out to people in organizations in like

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01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: the New York area at the time, and it used

1503
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: to be the far walkaway Cults. I remember at the

1504
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: organization it was like a bad part of New York.

1505
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 1: But it was kids playing football and pretty much it

1506
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 1: was police officers. They were their coaches and they used

1507
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: to get off duty and they come coach to kids

1508
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: and everything, and I remember we did so much with

1509
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: them and they changed their name to the fire Rockaway Giants,

1510
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 1: and um yeah, I love working with that group. There

1511
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 1: was an amazing group of kids and just the officers

1512
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: too as well. We used to be on zoom calls

1513
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 1: because it was a COVID sharp and stuff and we

1514
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 1: had they still accomplished great things and how bad We

1515
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: started doing so much that year with that one program,

1516
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 1: and then Kate's Club and Good Grief and Brighter Days,

1517
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 1: all different organizations that help kids with the grieving process

1518
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 1: because everybody agrees with differently. And I wish I would

1519
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 1: have had something like that when I was going through

1520
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 1: my grieving process, but that to see a kid even

1521
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 1: younger than me lose a parent and going through that process,

1522
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 1: and just to be able to go back and talk

1523
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 1: to kids, or be on a zoom call with those kids,

1524
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 1: or have them come to a game and talk to

1525
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: them and let them see that you can still be

1526
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 1: successful and be anything you or your parents wants you

1527
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: to be. And just because you lost and you have

1528
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 1: to continue to live the way they would want you

1529
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: to live and um, you just to talk to him.

1530
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 1: You never know who life you will change about just

1531
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 1: having a simple conversation and smiler. Yeah. Powerful stuff, man,

1532
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 1: certainly is. I'm going to tell you the we say

1533
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 1: this a lot of the sec guys that come through here. Um,

1534
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, obviously you're new to town and new to

1535
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,600
Speaker 1: the fan base and everything that comes with that. In

1536
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 1: the organization. You played at great organizations. You think about

1537
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: the giants of the Vikings obviously, UM, what a stadium this? Yeah,

1538
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 1: I love that stadium. This, Uh, this, this franchise in

1539
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 1: this fan base I think is most similar to probably

1540
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: what you experience at Alabama. Um, the way that a

1541
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 1: football Saturday in Tuscaloosa felt, That's what a football Saturday

1542
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 1: will feel down there on the lake. What do you

1543
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: know about the fan base? What do you know about

1544
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 1: the passion that this city has for this team? What

1545
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 1: have you learned since I heard they're super passionate. I'm

1546
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: so excited for a game day. I can look at

1547
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 1: this picture right now and just know how his crazy

1548
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 1: is gonna get and super excited for And I'm just

1549
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 1: just learning, like the true the fans, no matter what

1550
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 1: it is, how the season's going, if it's a great

1551
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: season or not the season that you wanted to be,

1552
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: they're supporting you. Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's amazing to hear.

1553
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 1: But the fan base just hats off to do them

1554
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 1: this because like those are true fans. You'll see you

1555
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 1: won't be able to go anywhere in town, like it'll

1556
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: just be the fans. They love this football team. They're

1557
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 1: so desperate and hungry for a winner. And you know

1558
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 1: you're a peace that can come and help bring that.

1559
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 1: You're a guy you understands winning. You've done it your

1560
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: whole career. Wanted to ask you just more of a

1561
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: fun question. I know you're an avid video gamer. What's

1562
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 1: your what are your games of choice? You know I

1563
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 1: don't discriminate with video games either. It's just are you

1564
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 1: a Madden guy? I sept from Madden because Madden is

1565
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: like it's it's not realistic to me. Okay, just so

1566
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 1: you know that they just dropped it. You just got

1567
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 1: a ninety eight in the free agent thing, which is

1568
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 1: an ultimate team, Like you are as high as it gets.

1569
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: It might be to me the exactly they got that

1570
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: one thing right, They got one thing right. Yeah, Like

1571
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,679
Speaker 1: I played Madden just like casually with sands and stuff.

1572
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 1: But I played most like Call of Duty Battlefield okay,

1573
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: like Got a War Friends and stuff like that. Like

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01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: I play a little bit of everything. But any game

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01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 1: I get, I'm I'm willing to give it a try.

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01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 1: It's a good it's a great escape. I still I'm

1577
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: a grown man. I'm a man in my forties. I

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01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 1: still love a great video game. I love it. It's

1579
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: it's just fun. Yeah, stay in the things you like

1580
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: to play? Nine instruments? Nine? Nine? Can you name all nine?

1581
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: And and this is from the internet, so it must

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01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 1: be true. And which one you which one is your favorite?

1583
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 1: I don't know about nine. That's exaggeration. Okay, what do

1584
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: you do place? What? What instruments do you like to

1585
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: play the most? I started off playing trumpet, and then

1586
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 1: I went to percussion instruments like exolophone, a little bit

1587
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: of piano, snary space, drum field, drum stuff like that's

1588
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: what's six six h six? And yeah, that was pretty

1589
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 1: much the main ones. Do you sing? No, I can't sing.

1590
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 1: I was just gonna throw a voice and there we

1591
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 1: can count that as a seventh. I got a seven

1592
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 1: year old, you got a drums at any interests I

1593
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 1: can get. You give some lessons to this kid, because

1594
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 1: all of this is noise to me right now. Man,

1595
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: he might he might just be a genius. He might

1596
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: never know. Maybe you go to Harvard. Maybe except Harvard.

1597
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: Just like hey, man, welcome to town. Yes, thank you,

1598
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: great privilege to have you on here. I think you're

1599
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 1: gonna fit in great. It's gonna be a real thrill.

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01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 1: Go ahead, real quick. This is one that I always

1601
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 1: like to end on when we first get to talk

1602
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 1: to somebody, is what is something you want Browns fans

1603
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: to know about Dalvin Thomlinson. I would say that y'all

1604
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 1: have a true dog on the football field. Now you

1605
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 1: and Perion are gonna have a lot of fun together.

1606
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna help wrangle them in there. Very talented, also

1607
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,560
Speaker 1: a dog tremendous wrestling promos as well. So we have

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01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:44,600
Speaker 1: one thing that Cleveland has a very nimble market for

1609
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: is making T shirts. I think that could be a

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01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 1: T shirt by this after. There's no doubt. I think

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01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 1: I think the big dog absolutely, that's right. Alvin, welcome,

1612
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: thank welcome to town. Dalvin Thompson, your new defensive tackle

1613
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 1: joining us here in studio, so much more to comuls

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Speaker 1: Barking Backers, the fan club for Dogs. God bless that dude,

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01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 1: man that I like. That was fun. He's good. That's

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01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:43,600
Speaker 1: eats exactly what uh what the doctor ordered here. It was.

1624
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 1: It was fun, it was emotional. And he's a powerful guy.

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01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 1: Powerful on the field, powerful off the field. Um as

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01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 1: I as I said, when you find the guys that

1627
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 1: have been nominated for the Walter Payton Man of the Year,

1628
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:56,679
Speaker 1: they are they are all cut from a very similar

1629
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:01,600
Speaker 1: and very special cloth. And I think that that is

1630
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 1: very true of Dalvin Tomlinson. And you know, I can't

1631
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: wait to see this guy on the field. I think

1632
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: he's obviously gonna bring a lot to this locker room.

1633
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna bring a lot as well to

1634
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,560
Speaker 1: uh this community, and I think he's gonna be a

1635
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:17,600
Speaker 1: lot to this football team on the field. And so

1636
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things they're looking for

1637
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 1: with that signing um And I think that, you know,

1638
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: you've got to feel pretty excited about what they've got there.

1639
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 1: And I loved his mentality, which is, as long as

1640
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 1: somebody's getting the sack, I get the sack. I feel

1641
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 1: like I got the sack because what he does is

1642
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 1: not necessarily going to show up. There are defensive tackles

1643
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 1: out there who will get ten sacks. Yeah, he knows

1644
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: how to generate pressure. He had the eleventh best pass

1645
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 1: rush grade among all defensive tackles in the league last year.

1646
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: But if he can push that pocket and you have

1647
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 1: a speed guy double O seven on one side, Miles

1648
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: Garrett on the other, there is going to be nowhere

1649
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: four quarterbacks to go. Well. It's also I mean, he's

1650
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 1: a three down guy. You know, He's the notion that

1651
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 1: earlier in the week, and it was just nonsense, like

1652
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. He's a three down guy. What he is?

1653
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 1: So he's um, and I think, boy, you know, and

1654
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 1: the other thing him, him and Perryon, there's there's I

1655
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 1: think that he could be a really good, a wonderful

1656
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 1: mentor type figure four Perryon Winfrey, because Perryon is uniquely

1657
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,560
Speaker 1: and supremely talented. And I think that, you know, the

1658
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 1: kind of the point I was trying to make when

1659
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:20,640
Speaker 1: when we're talking to him is that there are a

1660
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 1: lot of people that can complain about a variety of things. Yeah,

1661
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: right in their lives. They're just gonna seem pretty insignificant

1662
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 1: compared to what Dalvin Thomlinson is endured, losing his father

1663
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: at the age of five, losing his mother while he

1664
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: was in high school, and he is still here today,

1665
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 1: and he is a Walter Peyton Man of the Year nominee.

1666
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 1: He is someone who went out and achieved. It would

1667
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 1: have been so easy to shut it down after that

1668
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 1: and be like, yeah, this isn't fair to me. Use

1669
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 1: it the other way. Use it as a guiding light.

1670
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 1: And that's a powerful thing, Yeah, a powerful thing. A

1671
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:55,879
Speaker 1: couple of the NCAA tournament is up and running an operational.

1672
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 1: We have our first result, Maryland over West Virginia sixty

1673
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 1: seven to sixty five on that one. The very early

1674
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 1: games are just winding down. Virginia up four really really

1675
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 1: late twelve seconds left against Furman, Missouri with a halftime

1676
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: lead of four over Utah State, Kansas up nine right now,

1677
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: the one sixteen game against Howard on that front as well,

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Speaker 1: do you fill out a bracket? I did? I did? Yeah,

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01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 1: for you know, we are not allowed to find just

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Speaker 1: for far fun, yes, for pure fun for the kids. Yeah,

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01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 1: pure fun. I've got I think an Arizona Kansas final.

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Speaker 1: What was your what was the most heartbreaking Arizona team

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01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: for you? Because they've had several that were really really

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01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 1: good that didn't do it. They had the one who did,

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01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 1: which what most people in RETCHPEC wouldn't look back at

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01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 1: the Arizona runner loot and go. That was the best

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01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 1: team and worst respectively. But they had a lot of

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01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 1: big time squads. I think the year that we lost

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01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 1: to UM, there's year we lost to Corlis Williamson and

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01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 1: Scottie Thurman would have been ninety four. Was that was

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01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: a really good team. UM when we were the two

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01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: and we lost to Steve Nash as a fifteen, that

1693
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 1: was rough. Yeah, that was rough. UM and Steve Kerry. Yeah,

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01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 1: those same team was unbelievable. He was National Player of

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01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 1: the Year. What year was that, Nic say, like, I

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01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 1: want to say more like eighties eighty nine is my

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01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 1: my Dickey v Arizona's number one baby T shirt was

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01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:17,600
Speaker 1: from that era, which is one of my favorite T

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01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: shirts that I ever had as a human. The team

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01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 1: that lost to the great UNLV team with Kenny Lofton

1701
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 1: was loaded and they had that team had a chance.

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01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they've had a lot of teams of consequence.

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01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 1: I also thought that the team that lost too, I

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01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: want to say it was duke. Wasn't that in the final?

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01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 1: Was that the finals that they lost a duke in

1706
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 1: like two thousand and one, two thousand and two when

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01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 1: they had Abandon Gardner, Gilbert Arenas, Lauren Woods and then

1708
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 1: Dunleydemeyer on that team or was he was already gone

1709
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 1: yeah earlier. Yeah, Stodemeyer and Collied Reeves were that's who

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01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 1: lost to Arkansas. I want to think, I want to

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01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 1: say it could have been those guys that Yeah, stot squads.

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01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 1: He was great, awesome, awesome. That's the beautiful thing of

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01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 1: March though, is I mean Buckeye fans would have a

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01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 1: similar bunch of groups, not quite as many as that,

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01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: but there would be. Uh. That's the beauty of it

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01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 1: is that it is not the it's not the perfect

1717
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 1: way to crown a champion, but it's the most fun,

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01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 1: for sure, the most fun, and it is not going

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01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 1: to get the beastly right. Yeah, all right, so much

1720
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 1: more to come. I think I believe based on Twitter,

1721
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 1: Furman just did something. If they maybe they took down Virginia.

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01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 1: Well they were down, Oh my god, they did. They

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01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 1: were down four with twelve seconds left, another up one

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01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 1: with two Oh, that's unbelievable. How do you how do

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01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 1: you collapse like? That's crazy? Well, I don't figure it

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01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 1: all out. Um, all right, listen to Cleveland brown said

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Speaker 1: they brought you by bally Bet, Coming soon to Ohio

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01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: and eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland Browns Daily brought to

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01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 1: you by bally Bet, Coming soon to Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. All right, so here's what happened in

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01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 1: the Furman game. Virginia is up four with twelve seconds.

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01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 1: Furman hits a bucket to make it a two point

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01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: Virginia lead. Virginia's inbounding the ball underneath their own. They

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01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 1: inbound it kinda to the short cornerpolicably. Yeah, well, if

1735
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 1: you are, you have two choices. If you're gonna inbound

1736
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 1: the ball there, the ball either has to go right

1737
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 1: back to where it came from her. It's got to

1738
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: be passed quickly, or you gotta dribble, beat out of

1739
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 1: hell and break through before they trap you. He does

1740
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,759
Speaker 1: the opposite. He retreats into the corner and then picks

1741
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 1: up the ball now from that standpoint, instead of doing

1742
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 1: literally anything else. I mean, the other thing you could

1743
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 1: have done worse is to like pass it directly to

1744
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 1: a guy at the three points straight. He just throws it,

1745
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: like I think what he's trying to do is just

1746
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 1: throw it as far as he can to the take

1747
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: as much time as he can. It's a legendary magic.

1748
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 1: Johnson played from the Western Conference finals against Portland where

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01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 1: he just threw it up in the air and the

1750
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 1: clock ran out. But there's eight seconds is the problem.

1751
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 1: The second problem is he doesn't throw it far enough,

1752
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 1: so he literally throws it to the guy at Ferman

1753
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 1: at mid court, who catches it throws it to the

1754
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 1: guy at the three point line who drills a three. Oddly,

1755
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,799
Speaker 1: there's still two seconds left on the clock. So Virginia

1756
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 1: ends up losing this game. But there's still there was

1757
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 1: so much time when he did all of this, the

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01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: Virginia still had an opportunity to try to get a

1759
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 1: shot up. But it's firm in winning sixty eight to

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01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 1: sixty seven. So your first big seed over a high

1761
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:22,679
Speaker 1: seed is gone. From the thirteenth seed over Virginia. Maryland

1762
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:26,599
Speaker 1: advanced as well. There it is that can't happen. Did

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01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 1: they not have a time out? Virginia not have a

1764
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 1: timeout So the guy in the in the short corner, Yeah,

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01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 1: you can't dribble. I mean, like you tell kids when

1766
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: they're seven, you don't dribble backwards you start into it.

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01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 1: You don't dribble backwards into a corner. Then you definitely

1768
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: don't just pick up your dribble. I got a great tweet.

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Speaker 1: I look forward to enjoy your Thursday, everybody. We're back tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: The next lot of show Today, your welcome Next Levels

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01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 1: coming up next, Clean Runsday eight fifty ESPN. Cleveland. You've

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Speaker 1: been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of the

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