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So we will see you 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:26.560 kids in Nashville on the five of Don't go there 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:49.960 in Becauld you'll be very confused. Thank you, sorry, thank hey, guys. 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:53.440 Welcome to another episode of Thinking Sideways the podcast. I 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:59.200 Am Devin, joined as usual by Steve and known as 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:06.080 Wolf No, I'm murder, Hug. Stay tuned for next year's 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:10.560 April Fool's episode to hear the backstory behind that lots 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.880 of truffle. Yeah, anyway, today we are going to talk 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:18.120 about the Bohemian Grove. An important note here, I will 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.560 I promise I will tell you guys the overview of 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:22.640 this story. But an important note here for those of 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:26.480 you who are screaming and excited, this is not going 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.240 to be an episode about the Bohemian Club, or the 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:32.040 Skull and Bones or the New World Order, just the 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.720 Annual Retreat with a brief exception for purposes of explanation. 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:40.519 Not just about the Annual Retreat. It's about the actual 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:45.040 Bohemian Grove itself, which is, you know, like supposedly got 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:49.120 a huge underground complex underneath it. And some nuclear missile 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:52.480 silos and stuff like that. That was the Denver Airport. 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:56.040 Oh yeah, wrong story, long story, wrong story. Yeah, the 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:00.640 whole Denver thing is a red herring. Yeah this is 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.000 the real. No, we're not. We're just talking about the 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.560 annual retreat at the Bohemian Grove of the Bohemian Club. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.320 Sorry for all those you you who are already lost, 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.880 a promise, bear with me for like ten more minutes 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.400 and we'll get you there. Man. If it takes ten minutes, 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:19.400 I'm just you know, buffer, just in case. I also 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:21.960 just want to thank t J, who suggested this case 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:25.960 a long time ago. Well, thank you. So here we go. 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:31.440 The general mystery here is that since eighteen seventy eight, 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:35.080 a group of high powered men have gathered once a 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:42.680 year in the forest for two weeks. That's it. Credits 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:48.720 the stuff. Yeah No. The big thing here is that 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:52.520 it's uh, super secretive, and there are rumors of occultism, 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:57.680 deviancy scheming as mentioned, not about the Bohemian Club, but 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.280 I do want to give you some context. The club 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:05.040 was founded in eighteen seventy two by some journalists from 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:09.200 San Francisco. San Francisco actually um can Joe, can you 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.000 read this little bit here? I it's a it's an 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.440 excerpt from an article at from nineteen fifteen that I 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:22.480 think summarized used my San Francisco voice. Okay, I was 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:29.480 gonna use my groovy voice, just a okay. The Hemian 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:33.359 Club was organized in the Chronicle office by Tommy Newcomb, Sutherland, 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:36.360 Dan O'Connell, Harry Damn, Jay Lyman, and others who were 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.000 members of the staff. The boys wanted a place where 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.200 they could get together after work, and they took a 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.080 room on Sacramento Street below Kearney. That was the start 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.560 of the Bohemian Club. And it was not an unmixed 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.720 blessing for the Chronicle because the boys would go there 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:52.520 sometimes one they should have reported at the office. Very often, 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.440 when Dan O'Connell sat down to a good dinner there, 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:56.159 he would forget that he had a pocket full of 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.920 notes for an important story. So that's yeah, that's what. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.839 It's a drinking club. Yeah, yeah, pretty much. It was 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:05.599 a it's a fraternal club, but also yeah, it also 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:11.320 has a you know bar, yeah, as all fraternal organizations 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.120 tend to. Yeah. And while it was originally a fraternal 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.039 order for artists, and journalists like you'd expect from a 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:20.640 club called the Bohemian Club. You know, they were bohemians 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:22.960 like artists. You guys know, I don't need to explain 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:24.760 what a bohemian is do I but do you need 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.960 to explain? I'm not going to do that. It doesn't matter, 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:32.320 it's not relevant. Eventually, this club did start to let 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:37.080 businessmen in, then politicians, and now the membership is almost 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:41.360 exclusively very rich, very powerful men. Many of them are 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:45.640 still in a media business by the way, men men 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.760 men only. Yeah, the current membership logs are secret, but 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:53.800 past membership logs are available. Pretty much everyone who has 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.320 been a Republican president has been on this list at 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:01.520 some point, at least since at least since eighteen seventy Yeah. Sorry, 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:05.400 yeah that that oh that detail. Yeah, but yeah, it was. 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:09.640 It's a so fraternal means boys only. People don't always 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:14.560 get that anyhow. In eighteen seventy eight, the club members 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.560 decided to start an annual retreat where they could cut 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.520 loose because apparently the club wasn't enough of a cut 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.960 loose for them. They procured some land in the red 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:27.400 Woods near San Francisco, again, where their clubhouse is located 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:31.000 still to this day is located their clubhouse and made 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:34.560 it a place called the Bohemian Grove. This is where 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.440 the name of the retreat comes from, although when it 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:42.240 was first started they did call it the Midsummer's High Jinks, 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:46.479 which again should give you some framework onto hijinks screwing 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:50.920 around games, which is a weird twist on that name. 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:55.360 But yeah, yeah, low jinks and high jinks. But but 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.200 that was the whole The theme of the Summer Retreat 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.479 was just you know, hi jinks. It's you know, boys 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:02.800 will be boys. I kind of actually kind of wishing 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.200 we weren't doing this story quite yet, because I'm gonna 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.360 be going down there in about two weeks for a wedding, 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.279 and I'm gonna be like ten miles from this place. 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:12.200 So you think you're going to be able to get 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.040 to the Bohemian girl, I'm thinking about down you're going 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.600 to Alex Jones. I don't think you need to sneak in, man, 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.600 it sounds like you just drive right in. Yeah, yeah, 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.080 pretty close. And we'll talk about that in just one second. 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.640 That's okay, that's okay. The retreat is sixteen days long, 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:33.200 so two full weeks so that is weekend, weekend and weekend. Yeah, 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:35.640 that's that's the way it runs. And it's an opening weekend, 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.080 a middle weekend in a closing weekend. That's why it's 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:42.880 sixteen and not four. Yeah, exactly. Yep. On average annually, 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:47.320 two thousand, five hundred men attend. The camp is almost 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:54.000 a hundred and sixty acres large in the Redwoods. Beautiful, huge. Yeah, 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:58.720 and as we mentioned, no girls allowed for women, except 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:02.520 for there was a lawsuit in the eighties, um, because 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:05.160 they were actually not even hiring women. And then in 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.880 the eighties some people brought a lawsuit against them and said, 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:12.080 actually you do have to hire women, and the court said, yeah, 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.239 actually you do have to hire some women. So they've 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:18.960 hired women to do really specific jobs like park cars 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.880 or cook but in really specific areas of the camp, 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:27.600 so they're not exposed to any of the hygiene, whatever 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.360 the goings ons are, and that remains a little bit 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.559 to be seen. And the guys, actually, the guys want 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:34.360 to be a guys, so they're like public a lot 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:36.640 of public her nation going on and stuff like that. 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.600 Actually that that may be true. The biggest reason they 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:43.800 don't want women, you know. Yeah, well, we'll get into 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.080 that a little bit. And actually it's probably worth mentioning 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:51.040 also that there have been a few honorary female members 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:54.800 of the Bohemian Grow or the Bohemian Club, four of 0:08:54.840 --> 0:09:02.360 them and none recently. Yeah, they are, but that was something. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.120 Actually there was a there was actual during that lawsuit 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.120 they said, not only do you have to hire women 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.079 at the Bohemian Grove, but you have to let them 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:14.079 into your fraternal order. And the court said, actually, okay, 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.520 you do have to hire them, but you don't have 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:20.520 to let them into your club, I guess, especially because 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:24.120 they do have some events, not at the Grove, at 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.440 this retreat, but they do have some events where they 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:30.319 can bring wives or partners if they want. So there 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:35.319 there is one other there are other ladies in attendance 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:40.439 at this event. Okay, So just to keep this brief, 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:45.640 there are there are claims that there's motels and establishments 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:49.520 such as that near the Grove that are frequented by 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.880 the men over the course of their too possible up 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.920 to two weeks stay. They don't bring them onto the premises, right, 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:59.240 but these ladies what you're brought up for for as 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.439 sex worker. I'm going to use a term, don't freak 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.800 out on me, anybody to quote unquote service these gentlemen. 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:10.480 They are brought to that hotel. Yeah, and then but 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:15.439 they are technically technically still no girls allowed in the ground, right, 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:20.200 But I mean they are the equal opportunity involved. So 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.960 that's that's one of the funny gray areas to me. Anyway, 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:24.839 I find a bit of irony in that. I mean, 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:28.200 I guess I totally get it. Maybe as a woman 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:30.280 I don't as much, just because that makes sense to 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.920 me the guy that there would be this big, powerful 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.160 fraternal order where they would also be like no girls 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:39.120 a loud oh, except except for this one thing. You 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:41.360 guys can come for this one thing. But even then 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:43.520 I don't think they actually let them onto the premise. 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.840 I don't think they do. But but I will say, 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:50.440 there are other camps. This is the big retreat, but 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.520 there are other A member of the club can rent 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:55.760 out part or all of the facility. I don't know 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:57.280 why you would run out all the silly but you 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.240 can't rent out part of the facility during different times 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:03.200 of the year during this event, and you can and 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:06.680 you can have daughters and wives and female family members 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.600 except they have to be off campus by nine. They 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.120 can't spend the night there. Oh, you're right, you're right, 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.319 which is like, then, why I guess you would. It's 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.440 like renting a park to host a picnick or memorial. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:22.080 And the security might be good, might not be good. 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.320 H But it's pretty secluded and I think it has 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.760 a lot of amenities that a lot of other places 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:29.800 in the middle of the Redwoods don't. And I bet 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:31.560 you get a pretty good deal being part of the 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:36.160 club on the facility itself. The price that it cost 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.640 to be a member, and do you have that number 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:43.080 in your brain? Well, I do, actually bucks initiation an 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:50.480 older Well that's that's that's from your initiative, which is 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.719 probably low with inflation. But I also remember in the 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:58.559 eighties it was an average continual annual membership fee of 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:02.280 about two or twenty five hundred dollars a year. So 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.720 if we upscale that like we did with the membership fee, 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.560 you're paying five ten grand a year just to stay 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:12.920 a member. Ye. Well, and it's not group and invitation 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:18.280 only and either no, and the waiting list is really 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.200 really long. And actually it turns out most of the 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.920 people who become new members are just like sons of 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:27.440 people of men who are already members. Again, uh, it is, 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.440 it is. But as I said, really rich, really powerful 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:34.800 men are part of this club and go to this retreat. Okay, 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.520 back to the what happens at the camp after all 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:42.640 the money talk, Yeah, a lot actually goes on, and 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.480 and actually most of it, we don't really know what 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:49.480 goes on group. It's a secret. It's a secret club, 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:54.520 and it's the retreat is also intended to be secret. 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:56.960 I mean, it's it's more secret than Vegas, right, It's 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:01.199 just it's literally what happens up bohemian groves, stays of 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:05.120 bohemian grow It seems like enough journalists and such a 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:08.800 snuck in and with cameras or just tape records or whatever. 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:10.559 They I sort of feel like I have a pretty 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.360 good idea what goes on. I feel like that as well. 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:16.320 But for the sake of this story, for right now, 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:20.160 let's just say we don't really well we you know, 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.040 I feel like you have a sense in fairness, we 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:26.000 don't know, right, there's no official we don't really know. 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.800 One thing that people find the most weird. We do 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:34.800 have some footage of it exists on the Internet. And 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.040 the reason that we have this footage is because of 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:43.920 a guy named Alex Jones. You probably know this guy 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:46.360 if you don't do yourself a favor and do not 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:52.000 bother to look him up. He founded info Wars and 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:54.640 UM has a lot to say about a lot of 0:13:54.840 --> 0:14:00.840 things show host since to do it all he has. Yeah, 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:06.280 info Wars I think started UH two thousands, six, two 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:12.079 thousand three, early two thousand's in two thousand after a 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:17.200 lot of speculation. So there's since this this thing has 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.160 been going on a bohemian growth for so so long, 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.720 and it's been pretty secret, but the people who attend 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:26.080 are so high profile. There's been a lot of speculation 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:29.520 about what happened, what's going on. And in the nineteen eighties, 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:34.760 UH magazine called Spy Magazine did write an article. One 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.160 of their journalists wrote an article because he had managed 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:41.040 to sneak in like six days or something. I think 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:47.160 he was sneaking in and out and so his I 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.600 actually like what he has to say about it much more. 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:54.320 But that's okay because we do have this actual footage, Yeah, 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.160 he do. We do have this actual footage from Alex Jones. 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:02.280 So he and a cameraman knock into Bohemian Grove where 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:07.480 quote unquote so many others had failed. It was like 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.000 it was surprisingly easy for him to sneak in here. 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:14.880 Everybody that's got in has said that. Yeah, well, I mean, 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:16.800 you know, it's one thing. You can see footage like 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:19.840 a b there's a ABC footage where they drive right 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:21.840 up to the main gate and there's a security guard 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.400 there and they say, Hi, we're here with ABC News 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:27.000 on camera and the guy goes, no, get back, get 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.680 back there, You're not allowed in here. Get back right, 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.280 And so I think a lot of people were like, 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.360 oh my god, it's impossible to get in. I don't 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.360 think that's true. You just have to have a little 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:41.440 bit of knowledge, for God's sake, exactly. You can. You 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.480 can absolutely walk in. So that's what they did. They 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.880 walked in and found this little transit there, because since 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:50.520 it's so large, there's busses that take you everywhere, and 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:52.280 they want to get on a bus, and the person 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.320 who was driving the bus said, oh, what order are 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:58.760 you a part of? Because there's a bunch of different SubCamps, 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:00.800 which we'll talk about in a second. It reminds me 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.520 a lot of burning Man, because Burning Man the established 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:05.800 camps they usually are in the center of the Black 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:09.120 Rock city and their name like that. All. Yeah, so 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:13.000 he knew that the Texas group was called the Hillbillies. 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.200 So he and he's from Texas. He's Texan. He's a 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.320 pretty thick Texas accent. Yeah, Alex Jones, sorry, and he says, 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.440 we're We're with the Hillbillies. And the guy says, okay, 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.360 you can get on the bus and they ride around 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.840 a little bit and there's all this footage. It's really great. 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.640 You know, it's from the two thousand. It's from two thousand, 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:33.440 so it's grainy already, and there's weird cropping issues. And 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.400 it was a hidden camera. I find really funny is 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:40.000 he says my cameraman and I Well, it wasn't as 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.960 if he had the giant on the shoulder camera. They 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:47.680 had a little at BT video camera, crappy digital cameras 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:53.720 hidden in like a box. Probably was hitting Equality of 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:55.960 or two thousand. I mean, I think probably had six 0:16:56.480 --> 0:17:01.840 eighty eighty six. It was. It was the most hokey 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.760 what was the TV show back in the sixties show 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:09.160 with the guy who had the shoe for a phone? Oh, yeah, yeah, 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:12.280 and they had those those silly little I'm gonna pull 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.840 out my belt buckle camera like it. It's that kind 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:19.720 of goofy cracks when they say his his cameraman, it's 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.960 really not. It's his buddy, yeah company. I mean it 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:26.080 could it could very well have been his actual cameraman 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:29.600 front because he made a full documentary about this, right, 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.760 for some reason, it had to be him. Um, But 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:35.359 it has a lot of footage from this. There's a 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:41.679 full two hour documentary that Alex Jones produced about I 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:45.639 did not watch the entire thing I watched. I would 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.800 say I watched about eight hours worth of Alex Jones 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:56.760 things over the course of this. I don't know how 0:17:56.800 --> 0:18:01.040 she's alive. Yeah, So anyway, let's get back to this. 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.720 He like I said, there's a lot of footage that's 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:07.480 kind of whatever. But the one thing that he did 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:11.479 manage to catch is this opening ceremony thing they do 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:15.480 called the Cremation of Care, and this seems to be 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.480 pretty much the number one thing that people point to 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.919 one saying that what's going on at Bohemian Grove is 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:24.600 like really creepy. It's not the best quality, but I 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.399 do want to play you guys, just a really brief 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.320 brief clip from the Cremation of Care, just to give 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:33.040 you a sense of what it sounds like. Crap is 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:36.400 what it sounds like. Yes, but all right, we'll play 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:54.719 it now. They don't care playing once that summer sets 0:18:55.040 --> 0:19:18.800 us free. Welcome back. This is. You enjoy this is 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.399 and I would encourage you, if you are interested in 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:27.080 the story, to go watch the video. Um, I'll we'll 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:30.479 put a link on the website of a good quality 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:34.040 one with subtitles, because it is such a weird quality 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:35.920 and and if you google it you're going to find 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:39.480 ones that are really, really long and awful. But this 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:42.480 is the bulk of what Alex Jones got on tape, 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:46.840 except for the additional bunch of hours of him just 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:51.480 writing around and then sitting in a little like forested aream. 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:53.600 He's made a lot of noise about the nefarious things 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:56.120 that are going on, but he was there for four 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.639 hours and it's just boring most of the stuff that 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:00.920 he got. But the cremation Care is a big part 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:05.680 of the creepy factor here. It's like the opening ceremony. Yeah, yeah, 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:10.159 it's popular ceremony with the members. Let's just describe the 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:16.040 ceremony for those of our listeners who are who are listening, yeah, 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:20.119 not watching. The ceremony is basically this an effigy of 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:24.679 what's called dull Care d u l l Care is 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:30.000 brought across a small lake by hooded figures to nope, 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:33.640 hooded figures, to a stage where other hooded figures are 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:38.120 waiting for it, in front of a giant cement owl. 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:43.800 It's not an eagle owl. The owl is the symbol 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:48.159 of the Bohemian Club. It's it's forty ft tall, and 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:51.840 it is hollow. It's actually a steel frame with a 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:56.040 cement coverage. And then yeah, I mean, but it's made 0:20:56.080 --> 0:21:00.920 to look like it's naturally occurring. Actually, it's pretty convincing. Yeah, 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:03.120 it looks pretty good. It's kind of cool. Yeah. Well, 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:05.760 it turns out if you make a concrete statue and 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:12.240 you leave it in the woods for forty years and yeah. Yeah. Anyhow, 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:15.880 the effigy is brought before the crowd of pretty much 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:19.040 all two thousand, five hundred people who were attending, or 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:21.760 at least everybody that's attending that day that day. But 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:24.240 I think that is one of the things that most 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:27.400 people come to because it's a it's a big thing. 0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:32.919 There's uh oh so sorry. It's placed on an altar, 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.439 and at the end of the ceremony it's set on fire. 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:39.000 There's a voice over play happening, which I think sounds 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:42.080 like it's a recording from like fifty years ago. It's 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:45.520 hard to tell um for a while. The voiceover was 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:50.840 actually Walter Cronkite, who was a member. The effigy, like 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:54.680 we said, is brought. It's actually a steel frame. It's 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:59.240 like literally just re the effigy. Yeah, it's actually like 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:04.280 rebar welded together in the very most basic frame of 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:07.520 a stick figure human and then it's wrapped in cloth 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:09.920 and that cloth is set on fire and it's meant 0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:14.800 to be dull care as in worries, dull your cares. Well, no, 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:18.040 it's dull care like dull worries, like mundane worries. Of 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:21.440 I took it the other way, but okay now, yeah, 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:26.040 So basically they are cremating their worries in order to 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:29.520 enjoy their retreat. Everyone cheers as you can kind of 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:31.439 hear in the very tail end of that clip that 0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:34.919 we played. And apparently there's reports of beers being passed 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:39.680 around and and everything. After the cremation happens, there's a 0:22:39.840 --> 0:22:45.240 huge pyrotechnics. It's an insane which in the woods, Yeah, 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:48.960 except for they own the woods, so they don't really care. No, seriously, 0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:52.359 they do. This is actually something interesting, but well, this 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:55.480 is interesting thing. They own a huge chunk of woods 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:57.680 and you can't log in the red Woods, but they 0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:00.600 can log on that property and they do so frequently. 0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:03.720 They're trying to. They try to a hell of a 0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:07.679 lot more than they got blocked. They're pretty constrained, but 0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:10.199 they do to the fullest extent that they are allowed. 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:18.199 They they do. Yeah, but the club motto is and 0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:21.360 the club and camp model both is weaving. Spiders come 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:26.160 not here, which people think is creepy too. But there's 0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:29.639 a lot of stuff that you will read online that 0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:33.320 says care is a child. This comes from one specific 0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:35.720 place that we'll talk about a minute, and that the 0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:42.480 owl is actually Moloch, which is a Cannonite Cannanite god 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:46.360 associated with child sacrificing, who's actually a bull but whatever, 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:51.000 like a human body. The bulls Yeah, doesn't look anything 0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:54.879 like an owl, but whatever. There's also a lot of 0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:56.679 stuff that you will see if you go to do 0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:59.080 your own research on this where people say that the 0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:03.080 effigy could be a real human who knows? Again, more 0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:07.080 on this lady, Yeah why not? Yeah, I mean really 0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:09.480 why not? You know, actually you're going to burn something, 0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:12.879 might as well burn real person. Yeah, I might as well. No, 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:17.040 back to the grove after the ceremony. The activities of 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:19.840 the weeks that follow are pretty much a mixed bag. 0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:22.879 They produced two plays. One that's the High Jinks and 0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:25.399 one that's the Low Jinks. So one is kind of 0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:29.760 a serious, really high production level play, and then the 0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:33.000 Low Jinks is um Oftentimes they'll do it in drag 0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:37.120 or it's just supposed to be like an everywhere. Yeah, 0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:42.000 it's it's you know, low lowbrow humor but maybe not 0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:46.200 a subtle but but yeah, not not as funny probably 0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:49.800 even actually yeah, like exactly, like what if you told 0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:52.359 a group of boy scouts, twelve year old boys in 0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:56.720 the woods to make a play, what they would generate into? 0:24:56.880 --> 0:25:00.680