WEBVTT - 2019 Big 12 Preview

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Solid Verbo. I'm that for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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<v Speaker 1>for Dake Edith State. Is that whoo whoom? And Dan

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<v Speaker 1>and Tye.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the Solid Urbo Boys and girls. My

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<v Speaker 2>name is ty hilden Brand, joining me as always over

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<v Speaker 2>there in sunny, still summery New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>My man, the one, the only, Dan Rubenstein, Sir, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you You know how I like signs, Tye? You

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<v Speaker 1>know how I like to look for signs that it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a great show or all we might

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<v Speaker 1>be in trouble, something from above the universe telling me something.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm. So I'm I'm dragging a little bit on

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<v Speaker 1>the way home to record the show, and I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, a burst of sugar would be great,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing too intense. But we're talking about the Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about a high octane conference, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to stop it and get some candy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want, you know, I want M and M's

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<v Speaker 1>or Skittles or something like that. I don't know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't need a lot of sugar. So when

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<v Speaker 1>I do, I want something good and I'm walking down

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<v Speaker 1>the street and all of a sudden, three little kids

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<v Speaker 1>have set up a stand with rice crispy treats and brownies,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just felt like the universe was smiling down

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<v Speaker 1>not just on me and my what breaks down sugar

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<v Speaker 1>in the body pancreas sure, oh no, okay, but also

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<v Speaker 1>the Big twelve preview, that we have so many teams

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<v Speaker 1>looking for a jolt of energy. All of this segue

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<v Speaker 1>is coming together on the fly.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all kinds of cheeseballs right here. Continue to

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, But.

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<v Speaker 1>The universe sent me a delicious corner piece of a brownie,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like we are We're on borrowed time here,

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing great.

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<v Speaker 2>So delicious corner piece of a brownie? Yes, right into

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<v Speaker 2>the Big twelve preview?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you? You're generally in favor of like a corner lasagna,

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<v Speaker 1>corner brownie pizza.

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<v Speaker 2>No problem with corners now, but first choice? Probably not

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<v Speaker 2>first choice? No, whoa interesting, Probably not first choice. I

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<v Speaker 2>just assumed that was everybody's first choice. Nope, nope, you

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<v Speaker 2>are one in a million. Dan Rubnstein crunch factor high

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<v Speaker 2>for me. Okay, so crunch factor high for the Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>This is preview number two. But before we get into it, Ty,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a feeling you're going to touch on some housekeeping.

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<v Speaker 2>I am going to touch on some housekeeping. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for the setup, Ice Man, I appreciate it. Solid Verbaltickets

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<v Speaker 1>I like that hour, and I guess more of my

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<v Speaker 1>And we I think we're stapling on like a slight

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<v Speaker 1>surprised that we'll reveal close. I guess next week, Uh

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I do know what you mean yet two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be right two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>So next week we can tease out the little well

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good way to please it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So today, as you mentioned at the top, it

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<v Speaker 2>is preview Numero Dose. We are going into all things

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<v Speaker 2>know that was the acc we did it last week

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<v Speaker 2>On that note, Dan Boom, let's get into the Big twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>same format as a week ago. You and I have

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<v Speaker 2>constructed questions for one another. We're trying to facilitate a

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<v Speaker 2>discussion here, man, that's what we're doing on this show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got questions for you, You've got questions for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do we want to start? You want to start

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<v Speaker 1>with the defending champion? Please? All right? Ask me a question.

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<v Speaker 1>You have the.

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<v Speaker 2>Defended champion, your Oklahoma Sooners. They went to the College

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<v Speaker 2>Football Playoff. They lost to Alabama, but had a great season,

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<v Speaker 2>we had by one Kyler Murray Heisman Trophy winner, number

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<v Speaker 2>one overall pick in the NFL draft, And now as

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<v Speaker 2>we enter the twenty nineteen season, I think everyone's going

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<v Speaker 2>to ask what about Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts is the

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<v Speaker 2>transfer from Alabama, obviously had a fair amount of success

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<v Speaker 2>during his time in Tuscaloosa.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's jumped.

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<v Speaker 2>Aboard the Lincoln Riley bandwagon in Norman, and the obvious

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<v Speaker 2>question is, well, can Lincoln Riley engineer yet another Heisman

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<v Speaker 2>campaign at the quarterback position. I think that's a fair question.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we'll get into that. Yes, what I need

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<v Speaker 2>to know from you though, I need to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma's defense because defense was clearly the Achilles heel last season.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been so for a while. Lincoln Riley made a

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<v Speaker 2>big move in the offseason. He snagged Alex Grinch over

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<v Speaker 2>from Ohio State, formerly of Wazoo, to come in and

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<v Speaker 2>upgrade it. So for people who aren't familiar with Alex Grinch,

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<v Speaker 2>what can they expect? What do you expect in year

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<v Speaker 2>one in Oklahoma? And do you see an immediate impact

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<v Speaker 2>from him or from the defense like we've seen at

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<v Speaker 2>other places?

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<v Speaker 1>He's been first off Giant Dome, so fits that Mike

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<v Speaker 1>and Bob Stoop's mold of having a big head. Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Grinch brings that right off the bat. What's in that brain? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to be a little less predictable

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<v Speaker 1>than late era Mike Stoops. I think he is. He's

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<v Speaker 1>going to do. He's going to attempt to hide weakness

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit better. That secondary was absolutely torched by

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<v Speaker 1>admittedly very very good quarterbacks you know, led by Will

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<v Speaker 1>Greer near the end of the season than Tua in

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<v Speaker 1>the playoff. I think he's going to try to generate

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<v Speaker 1>more confusion. They're going to take more chances. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's very easy to look at Alex Grinch as somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who is coming in fixed defenses like he did at

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Satan, say what is he going to do this year?

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're a year away. I honestly think the

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<v Speaker 1>best that they can hope for from going to from

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<v Speaker 1>horrid is to not great, to blow average, that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. I think you're going to have to. This

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be the cliche of previews and new coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's going to be a walk before you can run.

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<v Speaker 1>Because last year of the defense, especially against the pass

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<v Speaker 1>and in the Big twelve it seems important, was putrid.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's generating a better pass rush. It's you know, confusing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, they last year and you said achilles heel,

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was more heel, calf, quad, every back

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<v Speaker 1>part of the body was a problem for Oklahoma. So

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<v Speaker 1>they married the best offense when appears to be the

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<v Speaker 1>best offense of the modern era, with a truly abysmal defense,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they add penalties to that. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that you can in year one fix pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's discipline. And so if that happens, and you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the better teams in college football that are outperforming

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<v Speaker 1>the talent they have a lot of it is turnovers

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<v Speaker 1>and disciplined, you know, killing penalties and all that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. So if they're able to do that with

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<v Speaker 1>a higher talent level than most, they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in a pretty good place to win those those fifty

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<v Speaker 1>to fifty games like the Texas game from last year

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<v Speaker 1>and the Iowa State game from a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>If Alex Grinch and this is the thing that it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of pains me to say, because I know how

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<v Speaker 1>it might be taken by Oklahoma fans if he can

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<v Speaker 1>be middle era, So like twenty thirteen, fourteen fifteen Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Stoops and the defense that he put together with, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say more talent the middle part of that defense,

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<v Speaker 1>especially linebacker Eric Striker and Frank Shannon. Guys like that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna worship him. He's gonna be a god middle

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<v Speaker 1>eras middle era, very specific, Wow, middle era Mike Stoops.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the other important thing. Last year's defense, as

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<v Speaker 1>bad as it was at times, was bailed out by

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<v Speaker 1>again an incredible offense.

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<v Speaker 2>Well see, and that's the thing we talked about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll remember countless times on the show. Last year. The

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<v Speaker 2>offense was playing so well that it was almost as

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<v Speaker 2>if Oklahoma's entire game plan on defense was to try

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<v Speaker 2>and create one or two plays like one or two plays,

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<v Speaker 2>get a turnover, do something that gives an extra possession

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<v Speaker 2>to the offense, and that at a minimum will be

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<v Speaker 2>enough to create some separation. Because the offense was so

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<v Speaker 2>high powered, it was so efficient, I think you want

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<v Speaker 2>to be better than that. Last year Oklahoma gave up

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<v Speaker 2>six point one to three yards per play. That's worse

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<v Speaker 2>than Kansas. That's worse at Oklahoma State, neither of which

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<v Speaker 2>you might have assumed was all that great on defense either.

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<v Speaker 2>So just marginally better makes them so so so much

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<v Speaker 2>better as a team.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they had a true freshman quarter and Bookie was it,

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<v Speaker 1>Radley Hile whatever it is, it's a three namer starts

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<v Speaker 1>with Bookie. He was picked on a lot, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>that Will Green or West Virginia game. And so confidence

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be a huge thing. And the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing is, I don't know. I mean, they have CD Lamb,

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<v Speaker 1>they bring in three blue blue blue chip receivers. Charleston

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<v Speaker 1>Rambo's an all time great name at receiver, Grant Galcatara

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<v Speaker 1>comes back at tight end. Obviously we know about Trey

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<v Speaker 1>Sermon and Kennedy Brooks at running back. So I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if they play with tempo a little bit. I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if because Jalen Hurts, I don't think is necessarily going

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<v Speaker 1>to be Kyler Murray nor Baker Mayfield downfield with that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of confidence throwing into tight windows, timing kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if there was anything that we questioned from his

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<v Speaker 1>time at Alabama was the fearlessness, the accuracy, the consistency

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<v Speaker 1>of Jalen Hurts downfield. Now, maybe going to Lincoln Riley

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<v Speaker 1>University solves everything. And we admittedly we didn't get to

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<v Speaker 1>see him in the Mike Loxley Josh Gaddis dan Inosarah

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<v Speaker 1>at Alabama, so maybe if he were forced into starting

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<v Speaker 1>duty last year it would have been better. And obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we saw him save the SEC championship game with Tua

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<v Speaker 1>and his issues medically, but I'm curious, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>full off season in this program. But on the flip

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<v Speaker 1>side with that, the track record of grad transfers, guys

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<v Speaker 1>thrust into a big spot, whether it's at Florida, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's at wherever it's it's tough. It's absolutely tough to

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<v Speaker 1>pick something up and have that command right away. So

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<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma's defensive line, pretty experienced linebacker, has questions, especially Caleb Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>longtime starter and a keycog. He hurts his knee in

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<v Speaker 1>the spring and still the secondary is a nightmare. So

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<v Speaker 1>just improving on penalties. The schedule is I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>open against Houston here.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing you mentioned the schedule, Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think when you combine that with the whole conversation

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<v Speaker 2>around Jalen Hurts. It changes expectations a little bit. The

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<v Speaker 2>schedule that Jalen Hurts had to play at Alabama was

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<v Speaker 2>a far cry for what he's got this year in

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Twelve right with Oklahoma, and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>plays to his favor. To be honest, I think he

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<v Speaker 2>can get away with being, you know, seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 2>of Kyler Murray. He might be a lot better and

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<v Speaker 2>he would still be a huge success for the Sooners

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<v Speaker 2>this season.

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<v Speaker 1>Which one of these defenses on the road for Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 1>scares you the most or scares you period? UCLA, Kansas,

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas State, Baylor, Oklahoma State. These are schools that I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the Kansas State defense was actually really nice at

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<v Speaker 1>preventing bigger plays. But it's a new look defense in

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<v Speaker 1>some regard, and I just don't see that hornet's nest.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see that multi sport field in Jalen Hurts

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<v Speaker 1>is twenty nineteen that's going to be bearing down on him.

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<v Speaker 1>Could be wrong, but at first glance, it's tough to find.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it sets up well for Oklahoma this year.

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<v Speaker 2>There's still a ton of talent on the offensive side

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<v Speaker 2>of the ball. I think any kind of improvement on

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<v Speaker 2>defense makes them incredibly better. Any kind of I think

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<v Speaker 2>any kind of improvement on the defensive side of the

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<v Speaker 2>football makes them nothing short of a contender that are

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<v Speaker 2>already there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, or so.

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<v Speaker 2>So Again, we're splitting hairs trying to find issues with

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<v Speaker 2>this team at this point. Lincoln Riley has done a

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<v Speaker 2>tremendous job job in his first two seasons, and I

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<v Speaker 2>would expect that to continue now into twenty nineteen. The

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<v Speaker 2>next obvious question then, is is there a challenger other

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<v Speaker 2>than Texas or maybe just is Texas a challenger that

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<v Speaker 2>is going to emerge in the twenty nineteen Big twelve Conference.

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<v Speaker 1>That it's a great question, and we're not splitting hairs

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<v Speaker 1>finding a waakness. To be clear, we know the weakness.

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<v Speaker 1>That's clear. It's clearly the defense. But it were splitting

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<v Speaker 1>airs in terms of looking at Oklahoma and saying, are

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<v Speaker 1>there significant problems outside of Oklahoma that you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>obvious that they're going to take down Oklahoma because that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't exist necessarily. I have Oklahoma, as you know, best

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<v Speaker 1>case scenario probably eleven to one. I have them going

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<v Speaker 1>the defense going against I don't know, six to six

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<v Speaker 1>and a half threatening quarterbacks on their schedule. The worst

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<v Speaker 1>case scenario is probably nine to three with no defensive

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<v Speaker 1>improvement this year, not a great fit with Jalen Hurtz.

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<v Speaker 1>This is worst case again, and they won a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of significant shootouts last year that if they don't beat

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<v Speaker 1>Tech I think it was Texas Tech and Oklahoma State,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously they lose to Texas in a shootout last year.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they go nine to three this year and

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<v Speaker 1>it just doesn't it doesn't fully work this year. And

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<v Speaker 1>then moving forward with presumably Spencer Ratler the number one

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback in this past year's class, or I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>Tanner Mordecai, great name also on the depth chart that

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<v Speaker 1>they would you know, approach the levels of Kyler Murray

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<v Speaker 1>and Baker Mayfield. So that's my best case, worst case.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are we going next year? Dan, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask me something, Well, you you seem to be itching

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about Texas, Texas Hawk Kansas football. Now, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the Texas question is I mean fairly certain, fairly obvious

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and they lose chunks of that defense that

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<v Speaker 1>actually wasn't great. So I'd like there are some people

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<v Speaker 1>that worry about like, oh, they lose you know, big

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<v Speaker 1>players at each level of the defense, Like a defense

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<v Speaker 1>struggled some against some some pretty significant opponents, and then

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<v Speaker 1>weirdly enough, the offense struggled against teams they shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>struggled against. So and it's sort of it's become a

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Herman calling card of getting up for the huge

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<v Speaker 1>opponents and all of a sudden not showing up for

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<v Speaker 1>some lesser ones. Do you have reason to believe the

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<v Speaker 1>Longhorns can be more focused and consistent week to week

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<v Speaker 1>than they've been in years past? We saw the Maryland

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<v Speaker 1>games these past two years with Tom Herman.

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<v Speaker 2>More focused and consistent week to week than they have

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<v Speaker 2>been in years past. First off, Dan, I would preface

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<v Speaker 2>this entire discussion by saying that, you know, Sam Ellinger

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<v Speaker 2>declared Texas's back after their Sugar Bowl win last year,

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<v Speaker 2>So we may we probably probably we may be able

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<v Speaker 2>to omit this preview entirely and just move on to

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas if you're install m. So, here's the thing with Texas, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think consistency comes down to what can Tom Herman

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<v Speaker 2>and Todd Orlando put together after losing eight senior starters

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<v Speaker 2>on defense. I'm looking at defense first and foremost. The

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<v Speaker 2>talent's there, but they're going to be super young. Linebackers

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<v Speaker 2>are real question. Jeffrey mccallough really needs to have himself

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<v Speaker 2>a year. Yeah, I'm cool with the safety situation. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I love Caden Stearns. We talked about him too, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be relying on a nice player. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>three true sophomores at corner, which could be an issue,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just going.

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<v Speaker 1>To be a tall order.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, they got to get better on third

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<v Speaker 2>down defense as a whole. It sank all the way

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<v Speaker 2>to one hundred and ninth in the nation last year.

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<v Speaker 2>And keep in mind, this is a team that played

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of close football games. Getting off the field

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<v Speaker 2>on third down can really go a long way towards

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<v Speaker 2>creating some breathing room. Mm hm. So I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>where I stand on the whole Texas defense side of things.

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<v Speaker 2>On the offensive side, they got to find a way

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<v Speaker 2>to get more explosive. It was just not a running

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<v Speaker 2>game issue. This was just a team that, for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 2>had a hard time generating chunk plays. They didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>a single play over fifty yards last season if you

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<v Speaker 2>can believe that same. Yeah, So the Sam Ellinger Colin

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson connection is going to be really important this year.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think there needs to be some other cog

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<v Speaker 2>in the works that can help generate big plays. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's Jake Smith. They're freshman wide out.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of folks are excited about him. Maybe he

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<v Speaker 2>can step in and generate some spark as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Allen Dubernet, I think, I mean, he's shown flashes

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<v Speaker 1>in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, sure, But Jake Smith, I know, is a

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<v Speaker 2>name just from reading that people are very excited about.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody's got to step in and someone's got to do

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<v Speaker 2>something to help out Sam Ellinger. His numbers were absurd

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<v Speaker 2>a year ago. I don't mean to diminish those at all, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but he needs to get some help in any one

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<v Speaker 2>of like eight different ways, not the least of which

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<v Speaker 2>is the Running game.

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<v Speaker 1>The Running Game. You're absolutely right, And I think Keanta

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<v Speaker 1>Ingram was good enough to feel more confident than we've

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<v Speaker 1>been able to in a couple of years. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. But yes, you're right. So the load needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be taken off of him. And we've seen and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, It's not always accurate to say, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if he throws this many times, they're in trouble. But

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<v Speaker 1>when he went over thirty five times, he was either

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<v Speaker 1>legitimately excellent and they needed every one of those throws,

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<v Speaker 1>or it was a little bit worrisome that he was

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<v Speaker 1>shouldering that level of things that they couldn't move the

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<v Speaker 1>ball in. Like you mentioned, chunkier plays, thick and chunky plays.

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<v Speaker 1>They need to be restaurant salsa tie. They need you

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<v Speaker 1>have the spicy sound. They need to be thick and

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<v Speaker 1>chunky with their plays. And I hope that they can

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<v Speaker 1>get to that point because I mean, they appear to

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<v Speaker 1>be the teams at the top of the conference when

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<v Speaker 1>you mix talent and results something.

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<v Speaker 2>They're right right there. But you're right, the question is

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<v Speaker 2>on point. It is a matter of consistency, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a matter of being consistent all throughout the

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<v Speaker 2>depth chart and in every facet of the game. Sam Ellinger,

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<v Speaker 2>to your point, is way too valuable to the success

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<v Speaker 2>of this team. He cannot finish with one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>sixty four rushing attempts like he did last year. You

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<v Speaker 2>cannot finish with that many. It's just not sustainable. Tom

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<v Speaker 2>Herman knows it. At Big twelve media Days, he said

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<v Speaker 2>Techis is a power running team, and he tried. Last

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<v Speaker 2>year they had the most rushing attempts in the conference,

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<v Speaker 2>but still they tied for seventy sixth nationally in rushes

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<v Speaker 2>of ten yards or more. So I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it's key on to Ingram, if it's Jordan Whittingham, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know who's going to change that this year. But

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<v Speaker 2>somebody's got to take the load off of Sam Ellinger

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<v Speaker 2>or this is not going to work the way I

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<v Speaker 2>think sam Ellinger thought it was going to work when

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<v Speaker 2>he said that Texas is back. Yeah, still such a

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<v Speaker 2>great short yardage weapon though, just his feel for space

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<v Speaker 2>is so great around the goal line or on you know,

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<v Speaker 2>third in inches stuff like that that I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to fully take the ball out of his hands.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, he had six sixteen rushing touchdowns last year,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's a weapon down at the goal and he

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<v Speaker 2>had forty one in total, only five interceptions over thirty

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred passing yards.

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<v Speaker 1>How's their schedule?

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<v Speaker 2>Their schedule, there's only two games on the schedule where

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<v Speaker 2>they're not favored at this Scouley juncture. That's the Red

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<v Speaker 2>River shootout against Oklahoma, and then there's a big non

0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:03.520
<v Speaker 2>conference game at home against LSU in Week two. Every

0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:06.240
<v Speaker 2>other game, all ten of the other games, they should

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<v Speaker 2>be favored. I don't know if they drop one of

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<v Speaker 2>those here or there. I mean, who knows how the

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<v Speaker 2>defense ends up playing? Like I said, they're young.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my question, Dan Prefaces. I am a big believer

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<v Speaker 1>in loving teams who can put forth the best combination

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<v Speaker 1>of quarterback play and defense. You know, it's great to

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<v Speaker 1>have great running back, it's great to have great line,

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<v Speaker 1>great to have receivers and whatever. Quarterback and defense. Quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>and defense ultimately, to me, is the most attractive thing

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<v Speaker 1>and feeling good about a complete team experience. Who is

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<v Speaker 1>that team in the Big twelve quarterback and defense, quarterback

0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 1>and defense that you are feeling that they are our

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<v Speaker 1>most aligned in being high level? Ah boy, I know

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<v Speaker 1>I'm putting you on the spot, but I have my

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<v Speaker 1>answer if you don't want to offer.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm looking at my teams. I've got the

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Texas teams in Kansas. Yes, it's I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 2>from that grouping. It's not from this grouping. No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's Iowa State. You could be right about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to go there next?

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:12.679
<v Speaker 1>Chips? I would love to go there next because I

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 1>watched a Okay, when I say a, I mean three

0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:21.840
<v Speaker 1>uh mixtapes of rock Party today and I'm sweating just

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about a.

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<v Speaker 2>Time mixtapes of rock Party.

0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 1>So mixtapes of rock Party, and I'm feeling juiced.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got the vapors for Brock Party.

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:30.920
<v Speaker 1>We all do.

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited about Brock Party had a really good freshman campaign.

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm issue this year. David Montgomery the running back,

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 2>and Hikeem Butler the receiver, are now both in the NFL. Collectively,

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:50.720
<v Speaker 2>they accounted for fifty three percent of Iowa State's offensive

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:54.840
<v Speaker 2>yardage from a year ago. I don't think Brock Party

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:57.359
<v Speaker 2>can replace all that on his own. It's going to

0:24:57.480 --> 0:25:01.040
<v Speaker 2>have to fall on the lap of somebody else. The

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:04.280
<v Speaker 2>question is, how does Matt Campbell replace that kind of production?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, No, it's a wonderful question, and I think it's

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:12.159
<v Speaker 1>the biggest one there is because of how strong they

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 1>appear on defense, especially up front. The back end has

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:17.399
<v Speaker 1>Greg Eysworth at safety, who we mentioned total dude a

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:19.760
<v Speaker 1>few weeks ago when we did our preseason Dude watch list,

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:25.440
<v Speaker 1>So that is enormous. The great news is this with

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:28.880
<v Speaker 1>regard to David Montgomery, really good player, did so much

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 1>for the team, was a leader, you know, bell cow

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 1>in the backfield. Iowa State did not win on the ground.

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 1>They did not produce on the ground. They were not

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>even close to one of the Big twelve's better rushing team,

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 1>let alone somebody who was to be looked at admirably

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 1>in the country. They won through the air, and they

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 1>won going to not exclusively, but a lot of the

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 1>time to Keem Butler, who even when he wasn't catching

0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>the ball, was a gravitational player, you know, unlike many

0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 1>other receivers we saw last year. The good news for

0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Iowa State is they're well coached. So even if they're

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:06.639
<v Speaker 1>not a lights out offense, even if they can't fully

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>replace like you're asking me David Montgomery and hi Keeen

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Butler's production, they don't shoot themselves in the foot. They

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 1>get off the field on third down. The schedule, yes

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:18.160
<v Speaker 1>is tough this year. Yes, they gave up too many

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 1>big plays last year, but they were excellent in the

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:23.959
<v Speaker 1>red zone. They really did make a nice year out

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 1>of Ben, but don't break especially after starting the year

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 1>last year. What one in three they score three points

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.440
<v Speaker 1>against Iowa. I think that's a zeb Nolan game. Who

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:35.679
<v Speaker 1>was good against Oklahoma. They lose in a low scoring

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 1>close game to TCU. Then they win seven of eight

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:42.680
<v Speaker 1>with Brock Purdy. They were essentially last year a chunk

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 1>of grass and a gust of wind from going ten

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:49.360
<v Speaker 1>to two. And yes, I remember the Drake game. We've

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:52.720
<v Speaker 1>accepted it. It was not pretty. The camera lens fogged up,

0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:57.159
<v Speaker 1>and we've moved forward. Quarterback is set, you know. I

0:26:57.200 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 1>don't think running back is in a great place. Sheldon

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Crony is the name that's being thrown out. They'll be fine.

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:06.560
<v Speaker 1>But if he's only okay, I don't think that's any

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 1>different than the production that they've gotten in years past.

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Tariq Milton had a really nice year. They had, they

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 1>get an Arkansas transfer in the Michael Petway, de Chante

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 1>Jones was good. The entire offensive line is back. My

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.360
<v Speaker 1>only real question about Iowa State has not a lot

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 1>to do with Iowa State. It's that they're October is

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>TCU at West Virginia at Texas Tech Oklahoma State a

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>bye week before Oklahoma on the road, which is nice Texas,

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:34.400
<v Speaker 1>and they end with the Kansas schools. So they could

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 1>again go eight and four or something like that and

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>look like a ten to two team if they win

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 1>those fifty to fifty games that you know, it was

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 1>six three going into the fourth quarter against Iowa last year.

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:50.400
<v Speaker 1>You know TCU was obviously very close. I think they're

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the best combination. You know, you watch these clips of

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.199
<v Speaker 1>Rock Purty again and it's been months and months, and

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:58.880
<v Speaker 1>there's there's Johnny football to him. He's not as good

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:02.640
<v Speaker 1>as Johnny Manziel, but that style of playing Brocky football.

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I apologize for that. I'd take it all back.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, this is the cheese balls episode.

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I know it really is. So best case is Rock

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 1>Perty's a Heisman caliber quarterback. The defense does even better

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 1>against a somewhat neu Loik Big twelve. They win the

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 1>close ones, and I think the best cases they go

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:20.479
<v Speaker 1>nine and three ten in a bit of a stretch.

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:22.679
<v Speaker 2>I can't even tell you right now to pump the

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:24.960
<v Speaker 2>brakes in Iowa State because really you.

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Have fully removed them. I cut those. I'm wheeling out

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 1>of control, I am passing cars. I am yeah, there's

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:34.160
<v Speaker 1>there's smoke coming out, and I don't even care that

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm riding this poppy until it explodes.

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Who am I to rain on your Iowa State parade?

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>So are you worst case scenario? Are you the worst

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 1>case though?

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Are you picking Iowa State to finish better or worse

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 2>in Oklahoma?

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I think there's just too much talent in Norman that

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>they will do better surviving any defensive deficiencies they have

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>because it's just Iowa State. While they're more experienced, especially upfront,

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>they're probably you know, the team I like the best.

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>If you're talking about a combination of offensive and defensive lines.

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I just if they can't handle two key injuries, they

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>just can't in the way that Oklahoma probably can in

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 1>most places other than perhaps quarterback. So I think because

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>of depth, because of talent, Because that game is in Norman,

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I like Oklahoma just a little bit more

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>than Iowa State. But I think I have Iowa State

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>ahead of Texas. Oh, even Texas is on the road

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 1>in mid November, Yes, sir, yes, sir. So worst case,

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>worst case they again lose, they have Iowa at home

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 1>this year so they again lose Syhawk and their road

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>woes continue. They lose those fifty to fifty games and

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 1>they go seven to five. That's worst case to me.

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 2>You are high on Iowa State? Oh yes, sir, yeah, excellent.

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 2>Where do you want to go next?

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be on a fence here, ty No,

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I pushed it ships to the center.

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 2>It's not quite a hot take, but it's just as

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 2>it's a definitive, confident take.

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you they were. It's a take that they were.

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Whatever I said, a sneeze away from ten to two,

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>A couple sneezes. It's a take. It's a take. Okay,

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>let's go. Let's go to TCU because I'm super hot

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>and bothered by Iowa State. So let's bring the passion

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 1>to your Okay, sorry, you want it, you know you

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 1>want it. It seems the frogs have. I was trying

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 1>to really find something positive about this quarterback room. But yeah,

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>it's tough. It's sort of a B minus group battling

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 1>it out for that job. Would love to be wrong,

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 1>but it's you know, this guy's promising but has a

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>terrible foot, or this guy came from Kansas State, he

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>was beat out because he wasn't that good. Is there

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>anything about TCU that has you confident about them as

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:03.239
<v Speaker 1>something beyond like just being a wild card like a

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 1>thorn in two and a half team sides good teams? Okay,

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 1>fair question.

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 2>This is a challenging preview for me on a personal

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 2>level because I'm always in on TCU and then they

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 2>break my heart. TCU usually usually follows up a season

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 2>like last year where they went six and six in

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 2>the regular season with a ten or eleven wins season. Right,

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 2>that's been their mo It's gonna be real hard for

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 2>me to not jump back on that bandwagon, especially now

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 2>that they've got seven starters back on offense.

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm full disclosure. I'll put that out there is

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 1>one of them, Trevon Boykin.

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 2>No, okay, it is not okay, And that's an issue.

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who's playing quarterback. They have a ton

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 2>of options. The options range everywhere from Alex Delton who

0:31:57.720 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 2>comes over from Kansas State, to Max who's a freshman. Yeah,

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 2>almost doesn't matter who's playing. My guess is it's probably

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Alex Delton. Regardless. They got to get better in the

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 2>passing game. They want to make that jump to ten

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 2>or eleven wins, They got to get better in the

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 2>passing game. The other thing they need to do is

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 2>not get hurt. They were so banged up last year

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 2>to the point literally where Gary Patterson was not even

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 2>focusing on twenty eighteen, was focusing on getting ready for

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen. Did you know they were missing twenty two

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.719
<v Speaker 2>players going into the spring. They didn't even do a

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 2>spring game because they were so banged up. They didn't

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 2>even want to tempt fate. They just had a public practice.

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, what's how bad it was? Yeah, I'll walk through.

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 2>But still, even despite all the injuries, they were the

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 2>best in the conference on a per play and per

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 2>game basis in terms of yardagellout. So they still play

0:32:56.480 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 2>defense at TCU. They just really nicked up. Now, what

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 2>does TCU need to do outside of the quarterback position

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 2>if they want to be more than just that thorn.

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 2>They've got a really great one two punch at running

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 2>back Darius Anderson and a gentleman whose name I cannot say.

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh, you're talking about Shawo. I cannot say alonea lua

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I have gone on YouTube. I can't do it. It's

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Shawoh Shay.

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:27.479
<v Speaker 2>I know it's Shawo. I can hear it. I just

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 2>can't say it alone Shawa shawoh. Shit, I can't even

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 2>say the first thing. Shoo Alona Lua Shawo alone o

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Lua m hmm shawoh alonea Lua.

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Between him and Darius Anderson, that's a really effective one

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 2>two punch at running back. They got a couple guys

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 2>back along the offensive line, but really just a ton

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 2>of guys who got experienced last year because they got

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 2>so many damn injuries.

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm excited about this team this year. All right.

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm not fully in yet. Still got some turnover all

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 2>on the defensive line. Got to replace Ty Summers in

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 2>the linebacking corps, good secondary. I think they're going to

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 2>be fine on defense. Gary Patterson knows how to coach defense.

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 2>They got freaks on the Bruce Veldman freak list between

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 2>your boys, Shawoh and Jeff Gladney, Jalen Reager, who we're.

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Going to talk about. But I am in on TCU.

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm in on him this year. Here's what I think

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:27.319
<v Speaker 1>the TCU offense should be. Whoever wins that job, Max

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Duggan or Alex Delton or if Justin Rodgers, you know,

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>is able to heal and recover. You walk up to

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:37.759
<v Speaker 1>the line of scrimmage and you get off. Quarterback job

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 1>is to identify where the mic linebacker is, the middle linebacker,

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:45.280
<v Speaker 1>and sort of sort out the defense from there. Point

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 1>right at the middle linebacker and you say, we're not

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 1>passing the Jalen reagor this down, and then you do,

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:57.440
<v Speaker 1>and then you do the old one two switcheroo. I

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:00.919
<v Speaker 1>think that's the best way psychle you can go about

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>their psychological warfare. Twenty fourteen, twelve and one, twenty fifteen

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:08.239
<v Speaker 1>eleven and two. Wow, everything's going well. Let's not talk

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:11.840
<v Speaker 1>about the bowl game after twenty fifteen twenty it's never happened.

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Never happened to me. The Alamo Bowl is a bowl

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>had happened some years TCUGO six and seven, eleven and three,

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:22.879
<v Speaker 1>seven and six. So they've been flip flopping since twenty

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 1>fifteen double digit wins and then bowl eligibility ish. So

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 1>this year would be a double digit win year if

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:34.399
<v Speaker 1>everything universe wise checks out. I don't think it's the case.

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 1>But can they be led with a really good pass

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 1>defense and creative offense, maybe they rejigger some things offensively

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>and go eight and four, nine and three. I think

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>it's within the realm. It's within the realm.

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 2>Here's the other thing. Yeah, I have never been able

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 2>to figure out Alex Delton. I like their offensive line

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:54.400
<v Speaker 2>a lot, by the way, as well.

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I like their line.

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 2>They've got guys back, Lucas Niang all good. I could

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 2>never figure out Alex Dalton when he was at K State.

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Never.

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 2>I always underestimated him, and I know that in the

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 2>early going here they're pretty high on his ability to

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:13.800
<v Speaker 2>throw the ball, implying that maybe we didn't see what

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 2>he has to bring fully to the equation because he

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:19.479
<v Speaker 2>wasn't afforded that opportunity at K State.

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I don't know if Alex dalt have.

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 2>If Alex Dalton is a starter at TCU this year,

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 2>it will really be the cherry on top of a

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 2>preview that I am already uncomfortable with and am not

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 2>willing to offer a definitive take on.

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:42.399
<v Speaker 1>I am ready to declare Alex Delton not great, not great.

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I hope he's great this year. That'd be really cool,

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>because that would mean TCU is all of a sudden

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 1>another competitive team on top of the near the top

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 1>of the big twelve. I have figured him out, and

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm not crazy encouraged, but I hope I'm wrong.

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>All Right, Dan, we mentioned K State, Let's talk about

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 1>K State. They've got Chris mm hmm. I think that's right.

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 2>Comes over from North Dakota State, a program you and

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:06.279
<v Speaker 2>I know well.

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Intimately. He comes over after being recruited by Gene Taylor.

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:13.359
<v Speaker 2>He was formerly the athletic director at North Dakota State,

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 2>now at K State. Longer term you're looking at this,

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I think the goal would be to implement some kind

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 2>of North Dakota State model.

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Which is what which is let's fine time well.

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Winning all the time, sure, but find the guys who

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 2>go unrecruited in that part very regionally, recruit well, find

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:39.839
<v Speaker 2>guys that fit your system, maybe that don't get into

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:44.359
<v Speaker 2>some bigger schools, and establish K State as the place

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:45.360
<v Speaker 2>for those kids to go.

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:47.319
<v Speaker 1>It's worked very well for North Dakota State.

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Shorter term though, m hm. Shorter term.

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:54.719
<v Speaker 2>What's the transition look like from Bill Snyder now to

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Chris Climan.

0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I gotta get better on offense. They have to get better.

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 1>They they were off the field real quick, a lot

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 1>of they were not great on third down, they were

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 1>not great in the red zone, they didn't generate big plays.

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:12.360
<v Speaker 1>And a couple of years ago they were Skyler Thompson's

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:14.959
<v Speaker 1>the guy. As we mentioned Alex Delton in Fort Worth.

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was great in the old system.

0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Maybe things are revolutionized. It's running back by committee. After

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Alex Barnes goes to the NFL. You know, Dalton Showan

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:26.239
<v Speaker 1>has been there for a little bit, and he was

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:28.879
<v Speaker 1>he was impressive. I want to say he's a former

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:30.720
<v Speaker 1>walk on, but I want to say that about everybody

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:33.439
<v Speaker 1>in Kansas State. I think when you go to twenty

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:35.439
<v Speaker 1>four to seven, it's just as former walk on next

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 1>to everybody in their class. Their defensive line should be strong,

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>linebackers should be all right, secondary decent, noticeable losses there.

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 1>And you mentioned the recruiting is is that that's the

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 1>model of finding under recruited guys. Filling your depth chart

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:54.359
<v Speaker 1>with grit and determination, and you know, perhaps guys who

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 1>have the frame to grow, but come in, you know, underweight,

0:38:57.680 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, six two one eighty, and so suddenly they

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 1>become six two two twenty by the time they leave

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:05.279
<v Speaker 1>it at outside linebacker or something. Recruitings going well. They're

0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:08.720
<v Speaker 1>getting top thirty top forty guys at their positions around,

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 1>whether it's Kansas or Oklahoma or Texas. I don't know

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:16.279
<v Speaker 1>how strongly they're going to follow the junior college model

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:19.720
<v Speaker 1>that Bill Snyder did. It's very early to say. Obviously,

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of junior colleges in Kansas to pick from,

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 1>but I think the outlook is pretty positive long term.

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I like Scottie Hazelton. I thought that was a really

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 1>nice higher defensive coordinator. You know, he's in that tree,

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:33.839
<v Speaker 1>that coaching tree. He was at Wyoming with Craig Boll.

0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Schedule wise, they're in a good ish place. They have

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Mississippi State, they go back to Starkville. I think it's

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:45.799
<v Speaker 1>week three, they go to Stillwater. The November is pretty tough.

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 1>They're at Texas. They have West Virginia at Texas Tech,

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:52.920
<v Speaker 1>and Iowa State. They were not that far away from

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:56.439
<v Speaker 1>being a wild card last year. TCU, Baylor, Iowa State,

0:39:56.520 --> 0:40:00.360
<v Speaker 1>Texas were all real close and winnable at moment moments,

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:04.239
<v Speaker 1>and I think they can get to seven and five

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>this year. I think when you have an improved I mean,

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:10.359
<v Speaker 1>if you are able to maintain the discipline so they

0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 1>didn't shoot themselves in the foot they were Obviously it's

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 1>a Bill Snyder team. They're well coached. They're gonna, you know,

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 1>to grind out wins. If they're able to maintain that

0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 1>and then get something offensively. I think they're seven and five,

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 1>eight and fourteen. Worst case they're overhauling everything and they're

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 1>five and seven again or something like that. But I

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 1>think the variance is pretty wide, and if they can

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:37.360
<v Speaker 1>keep recruiting at this clip, I know their class is

0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>pretty much already put together. I'm feeling very good. The

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>North Dakota State model that you mention is different in

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the Big twelve because they were able to rely on

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 1>guys in Wisconsin and Minnesota and in the Dakota's And

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I know there are other really good FCS schools in

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:57.120
<v Speaker 1>the you know, North Dakota, South Dakota and Northern Iowa,

0:40:57.160 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, but in that general area, if you

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:02.920
<v Speaker 1>were a pretty good player but not Big ten level

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 1>and maybe borderline mac and you were from Minnesota, Wisconsin,

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:08.799
<v Speaker 1>and maybe you want it to be a big fish

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 1>in a slightly smaller pond, you see Carson. What's the

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Carson Wentz. That's the guy the NFL get drafted in

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:18.920
<v Speaker 1>top one to two pick whatever. Maybe that's attractive to you.

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 1>It's different down in Kansas when the best players can

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>or borderline players can still go to Texas Tech, they

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:29.760
<v Speaker 1>can still go to Baylor, they can go to TCU,

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and they're not necessarily as attracted to Kansas State. I

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:34.479
<v Speaker 1>hope it's not the case, but I think that model

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:36.240
<v Speaker 1>is going to be a little bit more difficult to replicate.

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:38.960
<v Speaker 2>It's going to have to be tweaked. It can't be

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:41.800
<v Speaker 2>the same where you're recruiting from northern Minnesota. That's not

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 2>great work but feel good. But can it be tweaked?

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Can it be modified so that it works in that

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:51.280
<v Speaker 2>part of the country. I think absolutely.

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 1>If you're able to put together sound game plans, if

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 1>you're able to teach your team effectively, if you're able

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:58.919
<v Speaker 1>to get buy in every week, even if you start

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 1>zero to three, you're gonna win a lot more often

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 1>than you're not. In a pretty wide open conference, which

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 1>right now, given Oklahoma's defense, given questions about Texas, all

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 1>think Kansas is Kansas State's competing for the conference. But

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 1>you can win more often than not. Like the move.

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I like it, I do im in I am as well.

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Where are we going next? All right, let's go, let's

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:25.879
<v Speaker 1>go to Tech. Let's go to another new coach. Let's

0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 1>go to Lubbock because it's been far too long without

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 1>mentioning British comedy legen Alan Bowman and his ceiling, which

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I think is sky high. I mean, I'm kind of

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 1>jealous that you are the one to talk about Texas Tech.

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:40.879
<v Speaker 1>They hire Matt Wells. He's not an air raid guy

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 1>as obviously Mike Leach and Brave Tommy Homer and then

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:51.759
<v Speaker 1>Cliff Kingsbury were Cliffy Cliff Kingsbury. But the pieces are

0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 1>in place, quarterback, receiver, just offensive skill in general, improve

0:42:57.640 --> 0:43:01.799
<v Speaker 1>defense to go. I'm not gonna say seamlessly, but kind

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 1>of seamlessly from one one pass happy system to another

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:08.840
<v Speaker 1>and and keep progressing all around. Do you do you

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 1>think that's true? Or is this a full reboot in

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 1>the in the vision of Matt Wells, this is this

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:16.280
<v Speaker 1>is not a reboot.

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is not a reboot like you might see

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:21.320
<v Speaker 2>elsewhere when you get a new coach. I think the

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 2>offense is actually going to be similar enough to what

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:26.719
<v Speaker 2>they ran last season, which is good news for your boy,

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 2>for our boy, Bridge Comedy legend Allen Bowman moment. He

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 2>was outstanding as a freshman last year. He actually led

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:39.839
<v Speaker 2>the nation in passing before he suffered that collapsed along. Now,

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 2>so this is a kid who's got a ton of talent.

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:44.360
<v Speaker 2>I think you're gonna see a lot of the same concepts.

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:46.279
<v Speaker 2>I think you're gona see a lot of tempo this year,

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:48.839
<v Speaker 2>and I think it suits the offense well. Now, they

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:52.359
<v Speaker 2>need to stay healthy out wide, they really do. They

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 2>need to find a way to get TJ Vasher the ball.

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:57.880
<v Speaker 2>He's the six to sixth beast of a wideout who's

0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 2>a matchup advantage every time and he's on the field.

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:03.920
<v Speaker 2>And then there are other names you should listen for.

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:08.399
<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, Seth Collins, Kashawn Carter, he's a burner. We've

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:11.279
<v Speaker 2>got a red shirt freshman. Another guy can't say, I'm

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna try Eric Azukenma.

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't have it in front of me. So you

0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 1>did an a plus job. I'm just steering into it.

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:19.759
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I have a hard time with some of these.

0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Then we've got to transfer McLean Mannix, who put up

0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 2>stats at Nevada the line, the line has the most

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:32.080
<v Speaker 2>returning starts.

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 1>In the Big twelve.

0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 2>You wrap that all together, Dan, and this should be

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:40.360
<v Speaker 2>a really high powered offense. Again, moving away from Cliff Kingsbury,

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 2>moving towards now Matt Wells. Maybe not an air raid guy,

0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:47.600
<v Speaker 2>but he's passionate. He's trying to change the culture. He's

0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 2>really trying to build in this sense of accountability, all

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:52.960
<v Speaker 2>the sorts of things that you hear from a new

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 2>head football coach. But I think it all plays very

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.359
<v Speaker 2>nicely into a young core of players that are coming

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 2>back for twenty nineteen. So offense, offensively, they should be

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 2>I think pretty outstanding. The defensive side of the ball

0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:10.840
<v Speaker 2>is where I texted you or why I texted you.

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 2>There was a line in not one, but many of

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 2>the Texas Tech previews that I read Keith Patterson, new

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:24.800
<v Speaker 2>defensive coordinator, talking about guys getting ready to play a

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:26.480
<v Speaker 2>more aggressive attacking style.

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Aggressive attacking.

0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I love it, yeah, of course, and if you're a

0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Texas Tech fan you should love it too. Utah State,

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:40.200
<v Speaker 2>where Patterson comes from, along with Matt Wells, had thirty

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:42.520
<v Speaker 2>two takeaways last year that was tied for best in

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:45.440
<v Speaker 2>the nation. They've got a really good pass rusher, and

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Eli Howard had fifteen hurries and nine sacks as a sophomore.

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 2>I think they're trying to build better on defense. It

0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:54.840
<v Speaker 2>might take them a little bit to get there, but

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:57.279
<v Speaker 2>this is a good team. This is a good team.

0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:00.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited about Texas Tech. They've got road games against

0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:04.879
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma and Texas, which isn't great m h. Otherwise, though,

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:11.520
<v Speaker 2>the schedule's okay. Early on, Tech has Montana State UTEP

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:13.960
<v Speaker 2>and then a road game against Arizona.

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Pretty good, although I think Arizona's gonna be okay this year.

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Arizona might be okay this year. Yeah, a lot of

0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 2>offense in that game, to say the least. Otherwise, though,

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:28.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's a road game against West Virginian there,

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:30.799
<v Speaker 2>it could be tricky. I guess West Virginia is sort

0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 2>of a piece of definite. Yeah, And obviously a lot

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:37.719
<v Speaker 2>of the teams we're talking about in the Big Twelve

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 2>should be I think improved. But as it stands, the

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:45.520
<v Speaker 2>schedule isn't as bad as it could be. The over

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:47.879
<v Speaker 2>under for Tech right now sits at six.

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I love the over there, do you okay, So that

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 1>would be this is me speaking, not you, Montana State,

0:46:55.960 --> 0:47:07.239
<v Speaker 1>U TEP, Kansas YEP, Kansas State, West Virginia, Baylor, that's six.

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:11.680
<v Speaker 1>That's six. Arizona would be seven. I think they beat Arizona, Dan,

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:16.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That's tough. Arizona's defense is putrid. It

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:19.120
<v Speaker 1>is bad. It is very bad. In Utah State because

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, you know, David Yost at offensive coordinator who's

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 1>had success both at Missouri and I think he was

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:27.320
<v Speaker 1>a receivers coach for Mike Leach at Washington State and

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:29.400
<v Speaker 1>then Utah State last year. Will not talk about his

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:33.000
<v Speaker 1>one year at Oregon. They finished eighth in the country

0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:37.480
<v Speaker 1>in offensive points per drive, no garbage time, and eleventh

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:41.760
<v Speaker 1>on defense because you mentioned the aggressive attacking Keith Patterson,

0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:46.080
<v Speaker 1>so encouraging that they got to that point that even

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 1>if Texas Tech is not fully formidable this year, that

0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, Wow, this is this is a more

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:55.719
<v Speaker 1>complete Texas Tech team than we've seen in a long time.

0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Would be something we might say.

0:47:57.680 --> 0:48:01.440
<v Speaker 2>If Alan Bowman stays healthy, yeah, this could be a

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:02.400
<v Speaker 2>dynamic offense.

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:06.320
<v Speaker 1>And that I asked you a question, Yes, so I

0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:10.240
<v Speaker 1>was looking up the quarterbacks from twenty eighteen who both

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:14.439
<v Speaker 1>against their conference opponents, led the nation in either rating

0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:18.080
<v Speaker 1>or yards per attempt. As you might imagine, it was

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:21.439
<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray into a tongue of a top that list.

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a guess?

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Be it?

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Will Greer, Dwayne Haskins, whoever? Who is

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:31.760
<v Speaker 1>number three? I don't know. Is it kJ Costello?

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Maybe?

0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Is it Derek King, British comedy legend, Alan Bowman. It's

0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:38.279
<v Speaker 1>not British comedy legend Alan Bowman. I don't know if

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:42.759
<v Speaker 1>he had enough stats to qualify enough games started. It's

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Brock party. Yeah, it's Brock party. So the break said,

0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to I wanted to circle right on

0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:56.800
<v Speaker 1>back to Ames Iowa, Daniel. Let's go to West Virginia.

0:48:57.239 --> 0:49:01.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, new coaches here, your boy Brown from Troy, my guy.

0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:06.040
<v Speaker 2>He is switching up the defense from a three three

0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:10.280
<v Speaker 2>five to more of a hybrid y four two front

0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:15.160
<v Speaker 2>four two five sort of yeah, right, sort of. Two

0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:19.640
<v Speaker 2>questions on this A does West Virginia have the personnel

0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:24.320
<v Speaker 2>to make the switch? And then B can they be

0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:27.239
<v Speaker 2>better on defense because of it? In twenty nineteen, because

0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:29.080
<v Speaker 2>that's really been an Achilles Hill for them as well.

0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Sort of yes, I mean Tony Gibson I thought did

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:36.200
<v Speaker 1>a really nice job bringing West Virginia from pretty bad

0:49:36.320 --> 0:49:39.560
<v Speaker 1>to pretty dangerous a couple of years ago, three four

0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:42.319
<v Speaker 1>years ago. Last year they were not good. Last year

0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:46.120
<v Speaker 1>they struggled. The good news is, I think, given what

0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:49.560
<v Speaker 1>he runs and where he happened to be coaching these

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:53.879
<v Speaker 1>past few years, Vic Caning is potentially a very very

0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:56.759
<v Speaker 1>good fit for what West Virginia is going to be

0:49:56.840 --> 0:50:01.840
<v Speaker 1>transitioning sort of to, because he kind of already also

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:05.560
<v Speaker 1>runs a three three five. He's pretty multiple upfront. Sometimes

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:07.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a three man front, sometimes it's a four man front.

0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:12.520
<v Speaker 1>And my guy, VIC loves a good hybrid player nickname.

0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I think he's got a spear. I think he's got

0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:17.960
<v Speaker 1>a bandit. There's all sorts of names for players. I

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:21.239
<v Speaker 1>think there's got a hybrid outside linebacker safety who I

0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:24.360
<v Speaker 1>believe is the spear and the bandit is the hybrid

0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:27.319
<v Speaker 1>linebacker defensive end who plays pretty close to the line

0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:31.919
<v Speaker 1>of scrimmage under vicating at Troy, who comes with Neil

0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Brown to West Virginia. They were very very good against

0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:38.200
<v Speaker 1>the run, which who knows how much. That fully means

0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:40.320
<v Speaker 1>in the Big Twelve, they were decent against the pass,

0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:45.160
<v Speaker 1>They generated turnovers, their havoc great was through the roof.

0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:50.080
<v Speaker 1>He's everything I would want in a transitioning defense in

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the Big twelve. Essentially, he's been around. He was in Illinois,

0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 1>he was at North Carolina. He's coached a number of places.

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I think he interviewed. Where did he interview recently? I

0:50:57.520 --> 0:51:00.400
<v Speaker 1>think Oklahoma State I saw and they ultimately hired Jim Knowles.

0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:04.160
<v Speaker 1>So he's a big name that if West Virginia can

0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:07.560
<v Speaker 1>generate havoc, if they can continue what Troy was doing

0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:09.279
<v Speaker 1>in the air as I want to say, the best

0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:11.560
<v Speaker 1>passing team in the Sun Belt last year. You know

0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:13.560
<v Speaker 1>it's a new quarterback in Austin Kendall would probably be

0:51:13.640 --> 0:51:15.920
<v Speaker 1>nicer if Will greor we're back, but it's not the case.

0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Austin Kendall is the probable starter. The Oklahoma transfer Kennedy

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:23.680
<v Speaker 1>McCoy is back, a strong all purpose running back, pretty

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 1>big hit at receiver. TJ. Simmons is the big new

0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:29.520
<v Speaker 1>name there. I don't love their line, but you asked

0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:33.440
<v Speaker 1>about defense. The defensive line is in good shape. There

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:36.880
<v Speaker 1>are bodies, there is it the deepest. I don't know,

0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:39.719
<v Speaker 1>but there are bodies along the defensive line that I

0:51:39.760 --> 0:51:43.719
<v Speaker 1>think can get it done. And Reek Havoc linebacker is thin,

0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:45.920
<v Speaker 1>but they get healthier there and they've shown a good

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:50.080
<v Speaker 1>amount of promise there defensive back. Okay, I can't fully

0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:52.520
<v Speaker 1>say they're really good. After watching them play against Oklahoma

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:55.080
<v Speaker 1>last year. They didn't. You know, Ed Reid is not

0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:57.840
<v Speaker 1>going to be starting in center field for West Virginia,

0:51:58.360 --> 0:52:03.520
<v Speaker 1>said the sports talk radio. But as for your question,

0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:06.320
<v Speaker 1>do they have the manpower? Do they have the ability?

0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're transitioning in a dramatic way. Defensively,

0:52:09.440 --> 0:52:12.720
<v Speaker 1>I like vacaining. I like the transition. If Austin Kendall

0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:15.040
<v Speaker 1>is really good and the defense can get off the

0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:17.799
<v Speaker 1>field pretty quickly, it's be a good team. They went

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:20.160
<v Speaker 1>eight and three last year. They lose that shootout to Oklahoma.

0:52:20.280 --> 0:52:22.279
<v Speaker 1>They gave away the Oklahoma State game. I think it

0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:24.799
<v Speaker 1>was three touchdowns in the fourth quarter. They give up.

0:52:25.880 --> 0:52:30.319
<v Speaker 1>They just regressed. And so if they're able to play

0:52:30.440 --> 0:52:33.920
<v Speaker 1>more disciplined, if Austin Kendall is good, if the defense

0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:39.920
<v Speaker 1>is wreaking havoc eight and fourteen, you know it's a

0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:43.960
<v Speaker 1>nice first year given how well they've recruited skill position

0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:48.360
<v Speaker 1>guys and where they are defensively. Worst case scenario, it

0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:50.920
<v Speaker 1>takes some time to install on both both sides of

0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:53.319
<v Speaker 1>the ball. It is a tough non conference schedule. They

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:56.080
<v Speaker 1>go to Missouri and they have NC State. They have

0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:59.400
<v Speaker 1>a tough October stretch with Texas, Siowa State, and Oklahoma

0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:03.040
<v Speaker 1>in Norman. It could be a six and six, five

0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:07.400
<v Speaker 1>and seven type year, one mucky kind of year, mucky.

0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:11.759
<v Speaker 1>It could be mucky. I am leaning towards they're a

0:53:11.800 --> 0:53:14.520
<v Speaker 1>bowl team that I was. I've been low on West

0:53:14.600 --> 0:53:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Virginia in years past, where you've been higher. I think

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:19.160
<v Speaker 1>they're a bowl team for sure. I just like the

0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:24.839
<v Speaker 1>fact that they got a Neil Brown and be Austin Kendall. Yeah.

0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:29.239
<v Speaker 1>Bringing Austin Kendall over should help. Oh, it absolutely should help.

0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:31.319
<v Speaker 1>And you know, they they were bad in the bowl

0:53:31.360 --> 0:53:34.320
<v Speaker 1>game against Syracuse, but they didn't start Will Greer. You know,

0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:37.759
<v Speaker 1>losing guys who've been around forever like David Sills and

0:53:38.000 --> 0:53:41.200
<v Speaker 1>on both sides of the ball. But I think they're okay.

0:53:41.280 --> 0:53:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I think they're gonna be all right. I think they're

0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:44.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna be I mean, listen, if they just clean up,

0:53:45.800 --> 0:53:49.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, allowing huge plays and giving and giving up

0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:53.040
<v Speaker 1>stupid penalty yardage, they're better. They're just they're already better.

0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:54.600
<v Speaker 1>So I feel pretty good I have.

0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:58.200
<v Speaker 2>I have a high degree of confidence that Neil Brown

0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:02.880
<v Speaker 2>will be better at building an all around team than

0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Dana Holgerson, which was yeah, lopsided offense being dynamic most years,

0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:12.920
<v Speaker 2>and defense being hit or miss right.

0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:17.000
<v Speaker 1>And I believe I'm googling this as we speak, though.

0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Good connection. Tony Gibson, the longtime defense coordinate at West Virginia,

0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:23.560
<v Speaker 1>is now running the defense at NC State, who West

0:54:23.640 --> 0:54:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Virginia has early on. So familiarity there, circle of life. Okay,

0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:31.240
<v Speaker 1>where are we going next? All right, let's go to Baylor.

0:54:31.640 --> 0:54:34.920
<v Speaker 1>How about that. Let's go to Baylor, who had a

0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:36.839
<v Speaker 1>pretty promising year last year.

0:54:36.960 --> 0:54:40.080
<v Speaker 2>You want to talk about cutting the brakes out from

0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:43.359
<v Speaker 2>Iolas to God. Let's talk about my Baylor Bears.

0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about your Baylor Bears. Yea, their competitive last year,

0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:49.920
<v Speaker 1>they won a bowl game. Last year, they find a

0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:52.960
<v Speaker 1>quarterback for sure. Last year. They're ahead of where I

0:54:53.040 --> 0:54:55.400
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people thought they'd be given the

0:54:55.600 --> 0:54:59.640
<v Speaker 1>talent drain in Waco. They're still not. It doesn't seem

0:54:59.640 --> 0:55:02.640
<v Speaker 1>particular really deep in a in a pretty open, big

0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:05.759
<v Speaker 1>twelve middle class. But does that matter?

0:55:05.960 --> 0:55:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Does it?

0:55:06.320 --> 0:55:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Does it make it easier given the changes at West Virginia, Kansas,

0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Kansas State to uh who my in Texas Tech to

0:55:16.680 --> 0:55:18.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe uh to find eight wins?

0:55:19.320 --> 0:55:21.160
<v Speaker 2>I have a lot to say about Bailey this year, Dan,

0:55:21.239 --> 0:55:23.120
<v Speaker 2>all right, I'm gonna sit down a lot to say

0:55:23.120 --> 0:55:26.160
<v Speaker 2>about the Baylor Bears. The most important thing to remember

0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:30.200
<v Speaker 2>is something you touched on. Matt Rule is still building

0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:34.000
<v Speaker 2>this program. He had to basically raise the whole thing

0:55:34.920 --> 0:55:37.319
<v Speaker 2>and start fresh. So you're gonna read You're still gonna

0:55:37.320 --> 0:55:40.239
<v Speaker 2>read a lot about you know, trying to find the

0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:41.319
<v Speaker 2>right starting.

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Five quote unquote, or.

0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:48.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, depth issues along the defensive front, or guys

0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:52.600
<v Speaker 2>switching positions to find where they might be able to contribute.

0:55:52.960 --> 0:55:55.239
<v Speaker 2>All that stuff is is very much in line with

0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:58.480
<v Speaker 2>I think what you'd expect given the starting point that

0:55:58.560 --> 0:56:02.719
<v Speaker 2>Matt Rule had Here. They're all really young, which is

0:56:02.760 --> 0:56:05.520
<v Speaker 2>another thing to keep in mind, So temper what I'm

0:56:05.520 --> 0:56:10.320
<v Speaker 2>about to say accordingly, Okay, I think this team is

0:56:10.400 --> 0:56:15.040
<v Speaker 2>positioned really well, really well to continue improving you know

0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:18.239
<v Speaker 2>where I stand on Charlie Brewer at quarterback. Let's start there.

0:56:18.680 --> 0:56:20.480
<v Speaker 2>But you talked about him a couple of weeks ago.

0:56:21.160 --> 0:56:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Last year had a one thirty eight QB rating, just

0:56:24.960 --> 0:56:28.240
<v Speaker 2>nine interceptions in three hundred and ninety attempts as a sophomore.

0:56:29.120 --> 0:56:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I really like him.

0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:33.640
<v Speaker 2>I really like Denzel Mims out wide. The line is

0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:38.160
<v Speaker 2>the work in progress. That's a work in progress.

0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:39.200
<v Speaker 1>That's a rough line.

0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:41.120
<v Speaker 2>That's a rough line. They're still trying to mix and

0:56:41.239 --> 0:56:44.239
<v Speaker 2>match and find the right combination there. They're going to

0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:46.799
<v Speaker 2>get better. It's not saying much because they gave up

0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:48.760
<v Speaker 2>the most sacks in the Big Twelve two years running.

0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:52.279
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think they can get any worse. I

0:56:52.440 --> 0:56:54.359
<v Speaker 2>don't think offense is going to be an issue here.

0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I really do think they're going to be fine on offense.

0:56:57.080 --> 0:57:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Watch out for Trestan Ebner in the backfield. Junior running

0:57:01.360 --> 0:57:05.000
<v Speaker 2>back Chris Platt is back at wide receiver. He's a

0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:07.520
<v Speaker 2>six year senior. He's going to get some work. And

0:57:07.719 --> 0:57:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Matt Rule's really excited about Josh Fleeks out wide. He

0:57:10.600 --> 0:57:13.520
<v Speaker 2>only had fourteen catches as a freshman last year, but

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:16.760
<v Speaker 2>they're talking about him as some sort of dynamic playmaker.

0:57:18.040 --> 0:57:20.000
<v Speaker 1>To me, we should make a list of players that

0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:22.640
<v Speaker 1>coaches are excited about, and they're excited about all. Revisit

0:57:23.200 --> 0:57:23.840
<v Speaker 1>all the players.

0:57:24.360 --> 0:57:27.800
<v Speaker 2>The problem that they need to solve most immediately is

0:57:27.960 --> 0:57:33.440
<v Speaker 2>playmaking on defense, because last season they forced only ten

0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:35.080
<v Speaker 2>turnovers all year.

0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Long, and that's not going to be random. We can

0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:38.160
<v Speaker 1>be random.

0:57:38.240 --> 0:57:42.520
<v Speaker 2>It relies on luck, no doubt, but ten turnovers in

0:57:42.960 --> 0:57:47.160
<v Speaker 2>one season is not good enough. Secondly, they allowed twenty

0:57:47.240 --> 0:57:51.960
<v Speaker 2>five touchdowns of thirty or more yards and eighteen touchdowns

0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:55.440
<v Speaker 2>of forty or more yards DAN, So it's not just

0:57:55.520 --> 0:57:59.360
<v Speaker 2>a turnover playmaking, it's just stopping the big plays from happening.

0:58:00.320 --> 0:58:03.080
<v Speaker 2>They got to get better to do with that. I

0:58:03.120 --> 0:58:05.720
<v Speaker 2>don't know if they rely on their linebacking corps to

0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:08.440
<v Speaker 2>help guide them through that. That's really the one position

0:58:08.560 --> 0:58:12.240
<v Speaker 2>of depth on that defense. But they got to find

0:58:12.360 --> 0:58:14.880
<v Speaker 2>some way to solve that riddle because it killed them

0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:18.200
<v Speaker 2>killed them last year. There was a lot of good

0:58:18.240 --> 0:58:21.240
<v Speaker 2>on that defense, just a couple plays here and there,

0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:23.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot of plays here and there that were bad news.

0:58:24.760 --> 0:58:29.800
<v Speaker 2>The schedule is backloaded big time into November. They're at TCU,

0:58:29.920 --> 0:58:33.600
<v Speaker 2>They've got Oklahoma and Texas all in November. I saw

0:58:33.720 --> 0:58:36.280
<v Speaker 2>one game by game projection that had Baylor at nine

0:58:36.360 --> 0:58:40.520
<v Speaker 2>and three. That feels a little generous to me, really

0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:43.840
<v Speaker 2>really generous to me. I think eight and four. Eight

0:58:43.840 --> 0:58:46.520
<v Speaker 2>and four is realistic. Eight and four, if I'm being

0:58:46.560 --> 0:58:48.720
<v Speaker 2>really optimistic, is where I come down on this team.

0:58:49.240 --> 0:58:52.520
<v Speaker 2>There is plenty of room to move down on that

0:58:52.680 --> 0:58:54.920
<v Speaker 2>scale if you so desire. But I'm going to be

0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:57.320
<v Speaker 2>very optimistic on Baylor this year because I like Charlie

0:58:57.320 --> 0:58:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Brewers so much. I like Matt Rule as a football

0:58:59.360 --> 0:59:02.080
<v Speaker 2>coach so much. Eight and four, I'm gonna go real

0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:03.120
<v Speaker 2>optimistic with the Bears.

0:59:03.840 --> 0:59:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I know this is a good thing. If this this

0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:09.600
<v Speaker 1>is happening, it speaks well of your coach and his ability.

0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, are you are you banking on long term

0:59:13.640 --> 0:59:14.480
<v Speaker 1>mat Rule and Waco?

0:59:15.200 --> 0:59:15.240
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:18.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, is he the Houston Texans coach next year?

0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Is he you know, the Arizona Cardinals if Cliffy is

0:59:20.720 --> 0:59:24.080
<v Speaker 1>a disaster? Is he in Washington or Buffalo like that?

0:59:24.760 --> 0:59:25.120
<v Speaker 2>He is?

0:59:25.320 --> 0:59:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, he talked to the Colts. Reportedly, he talked to

0:59:27.560 --> 0:59:30.080
<v Speaker 1>the Colts. It's it's well known. I think at this

0:59:30.200 --> 0:59:34.400
<v Speaker 1>point that Matt Ruhle is willing to listen, right, and no,

0:59:34.920 --> 0:59:37.760
<v Speaker 1>perhaps sign an offered contract. Yeah, I am not.

0:59:38.720 --> 0:59:40.880
<v Speaker 2>I am not at all banking on him long term,

0:59:41.000 --> 0:59:44.120
<v Speaker 2>but right, I think he's a really good football coach

0:59:44.640 --> 0:59:47.760
<v Speaker 2>and he's done a good job guiding Bailor through this

0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:53.920
<v Speaker 2>rough patch. Here. Just take that on its face. I

0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:57.600
<v Speaker 2>like I like their youth. I like the fact that

0:59:57.680 --> 1:00:00.440
<v Speaker 2>they play hard. I like the fact that it seems

1:00:00.440 --> 1:00:03.800
<v Speaker 2>as if they're getting better, and carry that forward now

1:00:03.960 --> 1:00:05.520
<v Speaker 2>to twenty nineteen that I.

1:00:05.840 --> 1:00:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Think could mean eight wins.

1:00:08.400 --> 1:00:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Where do you want to go, Daniel, I want to

1:00:12.000 --> 1:00:16.440
<v Speaker 2>talk about the final team on your side here, Okay,

1:00:18.000 --> 1:00:19.240
<v Speaker 2>let's talk about Oklahoma State.

1:00:19.720 --> 1:00:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, new quarterback this year? Play the spicy sound please.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you bite into a wing and it's super duper spicy.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes that's a good thing. Sometimes are like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting flavor and all. But they're using a different

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<v Speaker 1>kind of chili pepper and there's good crunch to it

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<v Speaker 1>and there's like an interesting after burn. I'm using weird

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<v Speaker 1>lingo to discuss something that ultimately is going to come

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<v Speaker 1>back to Oklahoma State football. But sometimes you just bite

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<v Speaker 1>into something and it's spicy and you're like, well, this

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<v Speaker 1>is just burning. Oklahoma State can go a number of

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<v Speaker 1>directions this year in terms of spice. They can go

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<v Speaker 1>in the oh damn. Sean Gleeson is a revelation for

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<v Speaker 1>this offense. You know, as good as Mike Yersick was,

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<v Speaker 1>which he was excellent, you look at what Mason Rudolph

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<v Speaker 1>did and Justice Hill and you know Junkyard, Jim Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>all these guys who put up enormous yards and won

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<v Speaker 1>huge games. I think Sean Lison offers something a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit different, and I think there's more creativity. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a little bit of Chris Peterson to him with

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<v Speaker 1>tempo spread. I think there's that kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>playing forty called forty chess, is that you're forty forty?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>You know how?

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<v Speaker 2>I know that you're excited what Olahoma State? Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even let me ask my question. I know, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna lest play here talk to me about

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma State. I think you're very excited about them, aren't you.

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<v Speaker 1>No? I am, well, I am because I finally sat

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<v Speaker 1>down and watched some clips of Princeton football, where he

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<v Speaker 1>was the offensive coordinator of these past couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>And he could bring something really really interesting to the

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<v Speaker 1>Big twelve, something pretty not novel, but wrinkles that that

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<v Speaker 1>would be pretty exciting to watch. So I assume your

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<v Speaker 1>question is something in the way of what are they

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<v Speaker 1>going to look like on offense or what's what's the

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<v Speaker 1>impact going to be something with that.

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<v Speaker 2>New quarterback, new offensive coordinator, new offensive line coach. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what does all that mean for Oklahoma State? What does

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<v Speaker 2>it mean for the offense that we know and love

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<v Speaker 2>and are used to seeing, And how much different, if

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<v Speaker 2>at all, will it look.

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<v Speaker 1>So a recent headline I saw was two quarterback system

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<v Speaker 1>question mark coaches are saying it's a possibility, oh boy,

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<v Speaker 1>And that would be Drew Brown, who set out last

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<v Speaker 1>year five eleven. They thought he was gonna win the

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<v Speaker 1>job last year. He's he's not huge about five to eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>But the transfer from Hawaii who's played a lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Spencer Sanders, red shirt freshman, big arm, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a big, big recruit. I really hope it doesn't go

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<v Speaker 1>in that direction. I really hope they don't go with

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<v Speaker 1>what I considered to be the equivalent of an open marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>We're like, this makes sense, Let's see what we got

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<v Speaker 1>and then just like in practice, like, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a nightmare. So I whoever wins the job is going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a very good running back next to them,

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<v Speaker 1>behind them whatever in Cuba Howard Cuba Hubbard. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's auto correct. My notes corrected Hubbard to Howard.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure Tylan Wallace maybe the best receiver. I mean, Ceedee

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<v Speaker 1>Lamb is, you know, huge Jalen Rager, but Tylan Wallace is,

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<v Speaker 1>in the conversation best receiver. I think he was a

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<v Speaker 1>Bolittannikov finalist along with Dylan Stoner. They have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of interesting skill They've They've recruited receiver very well. The

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line is experienced dot dot dot, but not great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of those things where like, okay, I can

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<v Speaker 1>learn from their past mistakes they have. They have a

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<v Speaker 1>new offensive line coach, Charlie Dickey comes over from Kansas State.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a long time Bill Snyder guy. You know, year

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<v Speaker 1>after year with this offense at at Oklahoma State with

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Yersick, they put up a ton of huge plays.

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine that's going to continue. It seems likely that

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<v Speaker 1>it'll continue. So what is it going to look like

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be they're gonna spread out, They're gonna hunt

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<v Speaker 1>for mismatches. There's gonna be a lot of motion before

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<v Speaker 1>the snap. They're gonna play with pace. There's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of red zone creativity. I saw a wild

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<v Speaker 1>Princeton play from a couple of years ago where it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a jet sweep, fake run path, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know whatever was It was great, some real creativity down

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<v Speaker 1>near the goal line. I think it's going to take

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<v Speaker 1>some time. I think the verbiage, I think the comfort

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<v Speaker 1>in the offense is going to take some time to

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<v Speaker 1>get comfortable. But ultimately I think it's a pretty wise investment.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's it going to look like? At times really

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<v Speaker 1>friggin fun, other times against some of the better defenses

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<v Speaker 1>in the conference, kind of ugly and off the field

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<v Speaker 1>pretty quickly. Ultimately, again, I'm very excited about the potential

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<v Speaker 1>of Sean Gleeson. In Oklahoma State. This was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about the allue between offense and defense. The

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<v Speaker 1>defense did an okay job of getting off the field

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<v Speaker 1>because of their pass rush, but they were awful against

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<v Speaker 1>the run. Tie no, And if you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>leave the offense on the sideline because a team is

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<v Speaker 1>just pumping out six yard run after six yard run,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not great. So they need to get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot better. Inside on defense was the worst rush defense

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<v Speaker 1>in the Big Twelve last year, which was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>strange because if you remember, they shut down Boise State

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<v Speaker 1>Madison Avenue, but they just collapsed. They fully collapsed again.

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<v Speaker 1>The pass rush was fine. The big plays have to

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<v Speaker 1>have to go. Me turnover margin has to get better.

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<v Speaker 1>I just man, there's so it can go in so

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<v Speaker 1>many directions. I'm very excited for this season. Give me

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<v Speaker 1>a win total, give me a take all. Right, the

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<v Speaker 1>best case for Oklahoma State, they're probably going nine to

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<v Speaker 1>three best case, which is an incredible bounce back year.

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<v Speaker 1>A quarterback works out, the offense clicks quickly. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>nice non conference schedule. Even if the defense is only

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<v Speaker 1>okay against the run, that's an improvement. Worst case, neither

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<v Speaker 1>Drew Brown or Spencer Sanders really clicking the offense right away.

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<v Speaker 1>It's inconsistent. The defense is still leaky against the run.

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<v Speaker 1>Six and six, seven and five again, So I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's pretty high variants, and in a pretty wide open

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<v Speaker 1>conference to have you know, a lot returning including a

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<v Speaker 1>a gravitational big play receiver in Tylan Wallace. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a significant leg up. All right, damn, are you

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to this Oklahoma State team? I? Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>went through.

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<v Speaker 2>I probably didn't read as much about Oklahoma State as

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<v Speaker 2>you did, right, But everything that I read twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>boom or bust. Yeah, to your point, it could go

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of different directions. So I have a tremendous

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<v Speaker 2>amount of confidence in Mike Gundy to assemble the pieces. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd been very consistent in his time at Oklahoma State.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he'll find a way to get the job done.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are a lot of unknowns here.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean getting the job done? Flirting with

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<v Speaker 1>double digit wins getting the job done? Yeah, So the

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<v Speaker 1>losses have to come somewhere. We have We definitely have

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<v Speaker 1>one team that we've not talked about that is going

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<v Speaker 1>to generate a lot of losses.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe they're the last one on our list here.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we're talking about I said Kansas State, I had

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<v Speaker 1>as a worst case scenario about four and eight. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the absolute bottom to me for Kansas State. The other

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<v Speaker 1>teams that I've had as not Bowl eligible, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned five and seven with West Virginia Oklahoma State

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<v Speaker 1>I have as Bowl eligible pretty much no matter what,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously with Oklahoma I do as well. Who do

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<v Speaker 1>you have as a worst case of the teams that

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<v Speaker 1>you have previewed other than Kansas we're about to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you think you know? Ending up going home

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of or at the beginning of December

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<v Speaker 1>is a real possibility? Baylor TCU. Do you think TCU

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<v Speaker 1>is bottoming out a little bit after the cheese At Bowl?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I don't think they're going to bottom out. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of confidence in TCU. I think

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<v Speaker 1>five and seven Texas Tech. I think five and seven

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Tech is a possibility. I could see things going

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<v Speaker 1>sideways for Baylor if they get injuries. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Wells definitely had a couple of pretty disappointing years

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<v Speaker 1>Utah SED eight.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not happening to Texas. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 2>happened to PCU. Okay, the others. You could make a

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<v Speaker 2>case for.

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<v Speaker 1>It wide variants absolutely, Okay, final team. Shower your Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>questions upon me, please, Okay, I'm not a big believer

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<v Speaker 1>in Kansas. I don't know if you have there, you

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<v Speaker 1>should not be. I don't know if you have it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if Kansas is able to shock somebody or make you

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<v Speaker 1>change the channel to is this the Big twelve on

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN plus this year? Who knows? If they're suddenly along

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom line of Fox Sports or ESPN. You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas is up thirty one to thirty with seven minutes left.

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<v Speaker 1>Why will that be the case against a Big twelve opponent?

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<v Speaker 1>What is it about this year's Kansas squad? You're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to win much. First off, what was

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<v Speaker 1>the score? You just said, thirty one thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>It will never be thirty one thirty. Kansas is in

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<v Speaker 2>the Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>That means it's definitely going to be thirty one thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>It will never be thirty one thirty. It's going to

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<v Speaker 2>have to be low scoring, and it's going to have

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<v Speaker 2>to be against a team that struggles in the front seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the only way that that is possible is and this,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, is the most less miles thing possible

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<v Speaker 2>to say, the only way that that happens is if

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<v Speaker 2>they feed the beast. That is Pucka Williams Junior a

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<v Speaker 2>million times. He actually has a fairly experienced line to

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<v Speaker 2>run behind. Doesn't mean they're great, but he's got some

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<v Speaker 2>experience in front of him. He's going to get a

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<v Speaker 2>healthy workload this year. They're going up against some team

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<v Speaker 2>that has a hard time defending it and less Miles

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<v Speaker 2>is able to play ball control offense, and that's how

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<v Speaker 2>the game is closely.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the only way should mention Pooka Williams back from

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<v Speaker 1>a suspension I missed six or seven months. He's out

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<v Speaker 1>the first game of the year. It was a domestic

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<v Speaker 1>battery charge that he I think he's in a diversion program.

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<v Speaker 1>Missed the WAGA. Yeah. The way I hear you describing

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas is when one of those videos goes viral of

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<v Speaker 1>a senior citizen just nailing jump shots where they're just

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<v Speaker 1>hitting eighteen footer after eighteen footer. Nobody's guarding them, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everything is set up for a really nice environment.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what you're telling me. They're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to win a game in the snow, going against a

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<v Speaker 1>fifth string quarterback. The conditions are optimal. Somebody gets Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>Brewer gets hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to have to be some combination of events

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<v Speaker 2>that is unfortunate for the opponent. And I think relies

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<v Speaker 2>a lot on Pooka Williams Junior.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, that's it. This is not going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>good Kansas team. The big story in Lawrence is that

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<v Speaker 2>Les Miles is the new coach. He's assembled the cast

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<v Speaker 2>of characters on the coaching staff that aren't exactly hot commodities.

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<v Speaker 2>Les Kennig, formerly of Duke Houston, Alabama, Texas A and

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<v Speaker 2>M South Alabama, Mississippi State.

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<v Speaker 1>And UAB, so he's gotten around.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Dj Elliott on the defensive side of the

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<v Speaker 2>ball Kentucky and Colorado wasn't great no, most recently, but

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<v Speaker 2>he will be your new defensive coordinator. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Les Miles is the story. It's great to have him

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<v Speaker 2>back in college football. He's going to bring with him

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<v Speaker 2>a sense of personality and a flair and commentary that

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<v Speaker 2>only Less Miles can provide on the football field. I

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<v Speaker 2>am far less convinced, and I'm curious to see if

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<v Speaker 2>he can do more than just hand the ball off

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<v Speaker 2>to Pooka Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I mean, you've you've purchased a TV in

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<v Speaker 1>recent years, right, I have? What's that? What's a huge

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<v Speaker 1>selling point for new TVs? What is something about the

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<v Speaker 1>picture that people are really looking for, especially like cinophiles,

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<v Speaker 1>people super into the ice you need.

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<v Speaker 2>To get I don't know if they're up to eight

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<v Speaker 2>K now, but the resolution at a minimum, you need

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<v Speaker 2>to get a four K TV if you're going.

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<v Speaker 1>To go new What is it about color that's crucial?

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<v Speaker 1>But you're asking really, you're asking some color blind here.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but you want deep black, right, you want

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<v Speaker 1>the deep black. That's why I went with an old read. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you want with an O lead because it has that

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<v Speaker 1>deep black, and so if you set that that black

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<v Speaker 1>tone at a certain depth, then everything really pops, right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's right? Yeah. I think this applies to Less Miles

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<v Speaker 1>hair coloring. I think the deeper and richer the color

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<v Speaker 1>he goes with, I think if he can get to that,

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<v Speaker 1>there's certain paints that are like the darkest, darkest black possible.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if he can get that involved in his

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<v Speaker 1>look by twenty twenty, okay, they can go to a

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<v Speaker 1>bowl game. The darker his hair, the better.

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas Football were talking about less Miles. Here is what

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying for a goth reason. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>for the full like dark look, no, okay, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying his hair color has varied so much over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>He had like a sandy copper era. It's darker than

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<v Speaker 1>ever now, which I love. I think I think he

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<v Speaker 1>has to go even darker. We're also Kansas has to

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<v Speaker 1>go full o lead.

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<v Speaker 2>We're also in the era of less Miles wearing that

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<v Speaker 2>pancake makeup in the old Capital one commercials?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it Capital One?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember what that commercial series is for. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but the pancake makeup was a bit ominous.

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<v Speaker 1>Puka Williams oh lead depth for less Miles. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean this is going to take a while. If if

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<v Speaker 1>less Miles is more about improving Kansas fully, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>getting back to how much he was respected for a

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<v Speaker 1>time at LSU as a as a really good coach.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna be really recruit like he was at LSU.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna be on the stage like he was

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<v Speaker 1>at LSU. But if he is the guy to keep

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<v Speaker 1>hiring and keep recruiting and build the talent level up,

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of some uncertainty, if you know, things go

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<v Speaker 1>sideways for for West Virginia and Texas Tech and Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 1>State and Kansas State, whoever, if he's there building a

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<v Speaker 1>solid program, if he can get them to wherever Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>State was averaging at. I know that sounds like insulting

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<v Speaker 1>for for Kansas fans, probably Kansas State fans. If he

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<v Speaker 1>can get them to that, if you get them the

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<v Speaker 1>seven wins a year, my god, heroic, don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen. Dan, It's gonna be a while. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a while. I just well, he's the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me close out with this, Okay, Okay, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>put together a hypothetical proposition bet for you you get

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<v Speaker 2>either Homo or the group of Texas, Oklahoma State, and

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<v Speaker 2>Iowa State to win the Big Twelve in twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Which side of that better you're taking. I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 1>essentially giving me Oklahoma or the field, right essentially? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking the field for sure. There are ways for

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<v Speaker 1>things to go wrong. There are more ways for things

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<v Speaker 1>to go wrong with a single school than there are

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<v Speaker 1>for everybody else. All screwing up to me. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're giving me odds. I mean, you're just the odds

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<v Speaker 1>are that with ten teams and teams that Oklahoma has

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<v Speaker 1>lost too recently in Texas and Iowa state. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to struggled with at times.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a homemade spreadsheet where I calculate points per drive. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I am playing the probability of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And you know how I feel about Brock Party

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<v Speaker 1>would He's America sweetheart, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>Let us know what we got right, what we got wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>Where you agree disagree, It all goes with the territory.

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<v Speaker 2>But we are now officially in preview mode. Our next

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<v Speaker 2>episode is going to drop on Sunday. We will be

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the PAC twelve. Dan's got the North. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got the South. We are going to continue attacking

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<v Speaker 2>every conference in this fashion. And by the way, for

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<v Speaker 2>those of you who have asked the important question, why

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<v Speaker 2>was it Notre Dame part of the ACC that's my fault.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna lump them in with their geographic peers that

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<v Speaker 2>are in the Big ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Mac Oh what what? I also want to do some

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<v Speaker 1>G five stuff as we get closer to the season.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do G two we have to. Yeah, we'll do

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<v Speaker 1>some G five stuff too. Ye who's in the Because

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<v Speaker 1>you asked me about champion Oklahoma versus the field, who's

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<v Speaker 1>in the championship game?

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<v Speaker 2>To you, I it's Oklahoma Texas, Oklahoma Texas. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the easy answer, but I think that's the right answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma Iowa State could happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not great because there's a good chance, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Iowa State, if they're in that game, they go in,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe they lose to Iowa and they're nine

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<v Speaker 1>and three and all of a sudden, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>ten and three Big twelve champion and whoop, no playoff.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Get you ready for college football season in the funnest way.

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<v Speaker 2>We know. Possible tenders, with tenders and with our fantasy things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, all right, that's all I got. It's all I

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<v Speaker 1>got as well. Thank you for bearing with.

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<v Speaker 2>Us here as we talked about all things Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>We will be back on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>In the meantime, enjoy the rest of your week, enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning part of your weekend, and until next time,

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