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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbo. I'm that for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for Dake Edith State. Is that whoo whoom? And Dan

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Solid Urbo Boys and girls. My

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Speaker 2: name is ty hilden Brand, joining me as always over

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Speaker 2: there in sunny, still summery New York City.

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Speaker 1: My man, the one, the only, Dan Rubenstein, Sir, how

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Speaker 1: are you You know how I like signs, Tye? You

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Speaker 1: know how I like to look for signs that it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a great show or all we might

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Speaker 1: be in trouble, something from above the universe telling me something.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. So I'm I'm dragging a little bit on

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Speaker 1: the way home to record the show, and I'm thinking,

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Speaker 1: you know what, a burst of sugar would be great,

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Speaker 1: nothing too intense. But we're talking about the Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about a high octane conference, and I just

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Speaker 1: I don't want, you know, I want M and M's

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Speaker 1: in the body pancreas sure, oh no, okay, but also

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Speaker 1: the Big twelve preview, that we have so many teams

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Speaker 1: looking for a jolt of energy. All of this segue

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Speaker 1: is coming together on the fly.

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Speaker 2: This is all kinds of cheeseballs right here. Continue to

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Speaker 2: thank you, But.

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Speaker 1: The universe sent me a delicious corner piece of a brownie,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like we are We're on borrowed time here,

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Speaker 1: We're doing great.

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Speaker 2: So delicious corner piece of a brownie? Yes, right into

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Speaker 2: the Big twelve preview?

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Speaker 1: Are you? You're generally in favor of like a corner lasagna,

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Speaker 2: No problem with corners now, but first choice? Probably not

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Speaker 2: first choice? No, whoa interesting, Probably not first choice. I

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Speaker 2: just assumed that was everybody's first choice. Nope, nope, you

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Speaker 2: are one in a million. Dan Rubnstein crunch factor high

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Speaker 2: for me. Okay, so crunch factor high for the Big twelve.

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Speaker 2: This is preview number two. But before we get into it, Ty,

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Speaker 2: I have a feeling you're going to touch on some housekeeping.

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Speaker 2: I am going to touch on some housekeeping. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for the setup, Ice Man, I appreciate it. Solid Verbaltickets

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Speaker 1: And we I think we're stapling on like a slight

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Speaker 2: Okay, So today, as you mentioned at the top, it

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Speaker 2: is preview Numero Dose. We are going into all things

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Speaker 2: college tripball season here in twenty nineteen, So something.

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Speaker 1: To look forward to. As always, if you don't already.

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Speaker 1: Which one of these defenses on the road for Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: I don't see that multi sport field in Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it sets up well for Oklahoma this year.

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Speaker 1: That it's a great question, and we're not splitting hairs

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Speaker 2: More focused and consistent week to week than they have

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Speaker 2: By the way, they got to get better on third

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Speaker 1: The Running Game. You're absolutely right, And I think Keanta

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Speaker 2: he said that Texas is back. Yeah, still such a

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Speaker 2: great short yardage weapon though, just his feel for space

431
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 2: is so great around the goal line or on you know,

432
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Speaker 2: third in inches stuff like that that I don't think

433
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Speaker 2: they're going to fully take the ball out of his hands.

434
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Speaker 2: But no, he had six sixteen rushing touchdowns last year,

435
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 2: so he's a weapon down at the goal and he

436
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 2: had forty one in total, only five interceptions over thirty

437
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Speaker 2: two hundred passing yards.

438
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Speaker 1: How's their schedule?

439
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Speaker 2: Their schedule, there's only two games on the schedule where

440
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Speaker 2: they're not favored at this Scouley juncture. That's the Red

441
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Speaker 2: River shootout against Oklahoma, and then there's a big non

442
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Speaker 2: conference game at home against LSU in Week two. Every

443
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 2: other game, all ten of the other games, they should

444
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Speaker 2: be favored. I don't know if they drop one of

445
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Speaker 2: those here or there. I mean, who knows how the

446
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Speaker 2: defense ends up playing? Like I said, they're young.

447
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Speaker 1: Here's my question, Dan Prefaces. I am a big believer

448
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Speaker 1: in loving teams who can put forth the best combination

449
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Speaker 1: of quarterback play and defense. You know, it's great to

450
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Speaker 1: have great running back, it's great to have great line,

451
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: great to have receivers and whatever. Quarterback and defense. Quarterback

452
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Speaker 1: and defense ultimately, to me, is the most attractive thing

453
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Speaker 1: and feeling good about a complete team experience. Who is

454
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Speaker 1: that team in the Big twelve quarterback and defense, quarterback

455
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Speaker 1: and defense that you are feeling that they are our

456
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Speaker 1: most aligned in being high level? Ah boy, I know

457
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Speaker 1: I'm putting you on the spot, but I have my

458
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Speaker 1: answer if you don't want to offer.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm looking at my teams. I've got the

460
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Speaker 2: Texas teams in Kansas. Yes, it's I don't think it's

461
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 2: from that grouping. It's not from this grouping. No, No,

462
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Speaker 2: I think it's Iowa State. You could be right about that.

463
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Speaker 2: Do you want to go there next?

464
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Speaker 1: Chips? I would love to go there next because I

465
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Speaker 1: watched a Okay, when I say a, I mean three

466
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: uh mixtapes of rock Party today and I'm sweating just

467
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Speaker 1: thinking about a.

468
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Speaker 2: Time mixtapes of rock Party.

469
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Speaker 1: So mixtapes of rock Party, and I'm feeling juiced.

470
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Speaker 2: You've got the vapors for Brock Party.

471
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Speaker 1: We all do.

472
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Speaker 2: I'm excited about Brock Party had a really good freshman campaign.

473
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Speaker 2: Mm hmm issue this year. David Montgomery the running back,

474
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 2: and Hikeem Butler the receiver, are now both in the NFL. Collectively,

475
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: they accounted for fifty three percent of Iowa State's offensive

476
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Speaker 2: yardage from a year ago. I don't think Brock Party

477
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: can replace all that on his own. It's going to

478
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: have to fall on the lap of somebody else. The

479
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: question is, how does Matt Campbell replace that kind of production?

480
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Speaker 1: Right, No, it's a wonderful question, and I think it's

481
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Speaker 1: the biggest one there is because of how strong they

482
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Speaker 1: appear on defense, especially up front. The back end has

483
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Speaker 1: Greg Eysworth at safety, who we mentioned total dude a

484
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: few weeks ago when we did our preseason Dude watch list,

485
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Speaker 1: So that is enormous. The great news is this with

486
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Speaker 1: regard to David Montgomery, really good player, did so much

487
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Speaker 1: for the team, was a leader, you know, bell cow

488
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: in the backfield. Iowa State did not win on the ground.

489
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Speaker 1: They did not produce on the ground. They were not

490
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Speaker 1: even close to one of the Big twelve's better rushing team,

491
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Speaker 1: let alone somebody who was to be looked at admirably

492
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Speaker 1: in the country. They won through the air, and they

493
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Speaker 1: won going to not exclusively, but a lot of the

494
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Speaker 1: time to Keem Butler, who even when he wasn't catching

495
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Speaker 1: the ball, was a gravitational player, you know, unlike many

496
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Speaker 1: other receivers we saw last year. The good news for

497
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Speaker 1: Iowa State is they're well coached. So even if they're

498
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Speaker 1: not a lights out offense, even if they can't fully

499
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: replace like you're asking me David Montgomery and hi Keeen

500
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: Butler's production, they don't shoot themselves in the foot. They

501
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Speaker 1: get off the field on third down. The schedule, yes

502
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: is tough this year. Yes, they gave up too many

503
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Speaker 1: big plays last year, but they were excellent in the

504
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Speaker 1: red zone. They really did make a nice year out

505
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Speaker 1: of Ben, but don't break especially after starting the year

506
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Speaker 1: last year. What one in three they score three points

507
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Speaker 1: against Iowa. I think that's a zeb Nolan game. Who

508
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: was good against Oklahoma. They lose in a low scoring

509
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: close game to TCU. Then they win seven of eight

510
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Speaker 1: with Brock Purdy. They were essentially last year a chunk

511
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Speaker 1: of grass and a gust of wind from going ten

512
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: to two. And yes, I remember the Drake game. We've

513
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: accepted it. It was not pretty. The camera lens fogged up,

514
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: and we've moved forward. Quarterback is set, you know. I

515
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: don't think running back is in a great place. Sheldon

516
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: Crony is the name that's being thrown out. They'll be fine.

517
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: But if he's only okay, I don't think that's any

518
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: different than the production that they've gotten in years past.

519
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: Tariq Milton had a really nice year. They had, they

520
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: get an Arkansas transfer in the Michael Petway, de Chante

521
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: Jones was good. The entire offensive line is back. My

522
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 1: only real question about Iowa State has not a lot

523
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Speaker 1: to do with Iowa State. It's that they're October is

524
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: TCU at West Virginia at Texas Tech Oklahoma State a

525
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: bye week before Oklahoma on the road, which is nice Texas,

526
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: and they end with the Kansas schools. So they could

527
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Speaker 1: again go eight and four or something like that and

528
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: look like a ten to two team if they win

529
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Speaker 1: those fifty to fifty games that you know, it was

530
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Speaker 1: six three going into the fourth quarter against Iowa last year.

531
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Speaker 1: You know TCU was obviously very close. I think they're

532
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: the best combination. You know, you watch these clips of

533
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 1: Rock Purty again and it's been months and months, and

534
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: there's there's Johnny football to him. He's not as good

535
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: as Johnny Manziel, but that style of playing Brocky football.

536
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: I apologize for that. I'd take it all back.

537
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 2: Wow, this is the cheese balls episode.

538
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: I know it really is. So best case is Rock

539
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: Perty's a Heisman caliber quarterback. The defense does even better

540
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: against a somewhat neu Loik Big twelve. They win the

541
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: close ones, and I think the best cases they go

542
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Speaker 1: nine and three ten in a bit of a stretch.

543
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Speaker 2: I can't even tell you right now to pump the

544
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: brakes in Iowa State because really you.

545
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: Have fully removed them. I cut those. I'm wheeling out

546
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: of control, I am passing cars. I am yeah, there's

547
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: there's smoke coming out, and I don't even care that

548
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm riding this poppy until it explodes.

549
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: Who am I to rain on your Iowa State parade?

550
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: So are you worst case scenario? Are you the worst

551
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: case though?

552
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: Are you picking Iowa State to finish better or worse

553
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: in Oklahoma?

554
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: I think there's just too much talent in Norman that

555
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: they will do better surviving any defensive deficiencies they have

556
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: because it's just Iowa State. While they're more experienced, especially upfront,

557
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: they're probably you know, the team I like the best.

558
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: If you're talking about a combination of offensive and defensive lines.

559
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: I just if they can't handle two key injuries, they

560
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: just can't in the way that Oklahoma probably can in

561
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: most places other than perhaps quarterback. So I think because

562
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: of depth, because of talent, Because that game is in Norman,

563
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: I think I like Oklahoma just a little bit more

564
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: than Iowa State. But I think I have Iowa State

565
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: ahead of Texas. Oh, even Texas is on the road

566
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: in mid November, Yes, sir, yes, sir. So worst case,

567
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: worst case they again lose, they have Iowa at home

568
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: this year so they again lose Syhawk and their road

569
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: woes continue. They lose those fifty to fifty games and

570
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: they go seven to five. That's worst case to me.

571
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: You are high on Iowa State? Oh yes, sir, yeah, excellent.

572
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: Where do you want to go next?

573
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Speaker 1: I don't want to be on a fence here, ty No,

574
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: I pushed it ships to the center.

575
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: It's not quite a hot take, but it's just as

576
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: it's a definitive, confident take.

577
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm telling you they were. It's a take that they were.

578
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: Whatever I said, a sneeze away from ten to two,

579
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: A couple sneezes. It's a take. It's a take. Okay,

580
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's go to TCU because I'm super hot

581
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: and bothered by Iowa State. So let's bring the passion

582
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: to your Okay, sorry, you want it, you know you

583
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: want it. It seems the frogs have. I was trying

584
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: to really find something positive about this quarterback room. But yeah,

585
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: it's tough. It's sort of a B minus group battling

586
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: it out for that job. Would love to be wrong,

587
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: but it's you know, this guy's promising but has a

588
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: terrible foot, or this guy came from Kansas State, he

589
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: was beat out because he wasn't that good. Is there

590
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: anything about TCU that has you confident about them as

591
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:03,239
Speaker 1: something beyond like just being a wild card like a

592
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: thorn in two and a half team sides good teams? Okay,

593
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: fair question.

594
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: This is a challenging preview for me on a personal

595
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: level because I'm always in on TCU and then they

596
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: break my heart. TCU usually usually follows up a season

597
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: like last year where they went six and six in

598
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: the regular season with a ten or eleven wins season. Right,

599
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: that's been their mo It's gonna be real hard for

600
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: me to not jump back on that bandwagon, especially now

601
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: that they've got seven starters back on offense.

602
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm full disclosure. I'll put that out there is

603
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: one of them, Trevon Boykin.

604
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: No, okay, it is not okay, And that's an issue.

605
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: I don't know who's playing quarterback. They have a ton

606
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: of options. The options range everywhere from Alex Delton who

607
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: comes over from Kansas State, to Max who's a freshman. Yeah,

608
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: almost doesn't matter who's playing. My guess is it's probably

609
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: Alex Delton. Regardless. They got to get better in the

610
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: passing game. They want to make that jump to ten

611
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: or eleven wins, They got to get better in the

612
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: passing game. The other thing they need to do is

613
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: not get hurt. They were so banged up last year

614
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: to the point literally where Gary Patterson was not even

615
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: focusing on twenty eighteen, was focusing on getting ready for

616
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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. Did you know they were missing twenty two

617
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 2: players going into the spring. They didn't even do a

618
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: spring game because they were so banged up. They didn't

619
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: even want to tempt fate. They just had a public practice.

620
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: Oh man, what's how bad it was? Yeah, I'll walk through.

621
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Speaker 2: But still, even despite all the injuries, they were the

622
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: best in the conference on a per play and per

623
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: game basis in terms of yardagellout. So they still play

624
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: defense at TCU. They just really nicked up. Now, what

625
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: does TCU need to do outside of the quarterback position

626
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: if they want to be more than just that thorn.

627
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: They've got a really great one two punch at running

628
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Speaker 2: back Darius Anderson and a gentleman whose name I cannot say.

629
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Speaker 1: Oh, you're talking about Shawo. I cannot say alonea lua

630
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: I have gone on YouTube. I can't do it. It's

631
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: Shawoh Shay.

632
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 2: I know it's Shawo. I can hear it. I just

633
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: can't say it alone Shawa shawoh. Shit, I can't even

634
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: say the first thing. Shoo Alona Lua Shawo alone o

635
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Speaker 2: Lua m hmm shawoh alonea Lua.

636
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

637
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: Between him and Darius Anderson, that's a really effective one

638
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: two punch at running back. They got a couple guys

639
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: back along the offensive line, but really just a ton

640
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: of guys who got experienced last year because they got

641
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: so many damn injuries.

642
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

643
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: All right, I'm excited about this team this year. All right.

644
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: I'm not fully in yet. Still got some turnover all

645
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Speaker 2: on the defensive line. Got to replace Ty Summers in

646
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: the linebacking corps, good secondary. I think they're going to

647
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: be fine on defense. Gary Patterson knows how to coach defense.

648
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: They got freaks on the Bruce Veldman freak list between

649
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: your boys, Shawoh and Jeff Gladney, Jalen Reager, who we're.

650
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: Going to talk about. But I am in on TCU.

651
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: I'm in on him this year. Here's what I think

652
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: the TCU offense should be. Whoever wins that job, Max

653
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: Duggan or Alex Delton or if Justin Rodgers, you know,

654
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: is able to heal and recover. You walk up to

655
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and you get off. Quarterback job

656
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: is to identify where the mic linebacker is, the middle linebacker,

657
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: and sort of sort out the defense from there. Point

658
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: right at the middle linebacker and you say, we're not

659
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: passing the Jalen reagor this down, and then you do,

660
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: and then you do the old one two switcheroo. I

661
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 1: think that's the best way psychle you can go about

662
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: their psychological warfare. Twenty fourteen, twelve and one, twenty fifteen

663
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: eleven and two. Wow, everything's going well. Let's not talk

664
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Speaker 1: about the bowl game after twenty fifteen twenty it's never happened.

665
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: Never happened to me. The Alamo Bowl is a bowl

666
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: had happened some years TCUGO six and seven, eleven and three,

667
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: seven and six. So they've been flip flopping since twenty

668
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: fifteen double digit wins and then bowl eligibility ish. So

669
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Speaker 1: this year would be a double digit win year if

670
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Speaker 1: everything universe wise checks out. I don't think it's the case.

671
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: But can they be led with a really good pass

672
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: defense and creative offense, maybe they rejigger some things offensively

673
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: and go eight and four, nine and three. I think

674
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Speaker 1: it's within the realm. It's within the realm.

675
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 2: Here's the other thing. Yeah, I have never been able

676
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: to figure out Alex Delton. I like their offensive line

677
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 2: a lot, by the way, as well.

678
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: I like their line.

679
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: They've got guys back, Lucas Niang all good. I could

680
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: never figure out Alex Dalton when he was at K State.

681
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: Never.

682
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 2: I always underestimated him, and I know that in the

683
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: early going here they're pretty high on his ability to

684
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 2: throw the ball, implying that maybe we didn't see what

685
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: he has to bring fully to the equation because he

686
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,479
Speaker 2: wasn't afforded that opportunity at K State.

687
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know if Alex dalt have.

688
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: If Alex Dalton is a starter at TCU this year,

689
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: it will really be the cherry on top of a

690
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: preview that I am already uncomfortable with and am not

691
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: willing to offer a definitive take on.

692
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Speaker 1: I am ready to declare Alex Delton not great, not great.

693
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: I hope he's great this year. That'd be really cool,

694
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: because that would mean TCU is all of a sudden

695
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: another competitive team on top of the near the top

696
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: of the big twelve. I have figured him out, and

697
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not crazy encouraged, but I hope I'm wrong.

698
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: All Right, Dan, we mentioned K State, Let's talk about

699
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: K State. They've got Chris mm hmm. I think that's right.

700
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: Comes over from North Dakota State, a program you and

701
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 2: I know well.

702
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: Intimately. He comes over after being recruited by Gene Taylor.

703
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 2: He was formerly the athletic director at North Dakota State,

704
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: now at K State. Longer term you're looking at this,

705
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: I think the goal would be to implement some kind

706
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: of North Dakota State model.

707
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: Which is what which is let's fine time well.

708
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: Winning all the time, sure, but find the guys who

709
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: go unrecruited in that part very regionally, recruit well, find

710
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 2: guys that fit your system, maybe that don't get into

711
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 2: some bigger schools, and establish K State as the place

712
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: for those kids to go.

713
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Speaker 1: It's worked very well for North Dakota State.

714
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

715
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: Shorter term though, m hm. Shorter term.

716
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: What's the transition look like from Bill Snyder now to

717
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 2: Chris Climan.

718
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: I gotta get better on offense. They have to get better.

719
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: They they were off the field real quick, a lot

720
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: of they were not great on third down, they were

721
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: not great in the red zone, they didn't generate big plays.

722
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: And a couple of years ago they were Skyler Thompson's

723
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,959
Speaker 1: the guy. As we mentioned Alex Delton in Fort Worth.

724
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it was great in the old system.

725
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: Maybe things are revolutionized. It's running back by committee. After

726
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: Alex Barnes goes to the NFL. You know, Dalton Showan

727
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: has been there for a little bit, and he was

728
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: he was impressive. I want to say he's a former

729
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 1: walk on, but I want to say that about everybody

730
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: in Kansas State. I think when you go to twenty

731
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 1: four to seven, it's just as former walk on next

732
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: to everybody in their class. Their defensive line should be strong,

733
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: linebackers should be all right, secondary decent, noticeable losses there.

734
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: And you mentioned the recruiting is is that that's the

735
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: model of finding under recruited guys. Filling your depth chart

736
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Speaker 1: with grit and determination, and you know, perhaps guys who

737
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: have the frame to grow, but come in, you know, underweight,

738
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: you know, six two one eighty, and so suddenly they

739
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: become six two two twenty by the time they leave

740
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: it at outside linebacker or something. Recruitings going well. They're

741
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 1: getting top thirty top forty guys at their positions around,

742
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: whether it's Kansas or Oklahoma or Texas. I don't know

743
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: how strongly they're going to follow the junior college model

744
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 1: that Bill Snyder did. It's very early to say. Obviously,

745
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of junior colleges in Kansas to pick from,

746
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: but I think the outlook is pretty positive long term.

747
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: I like Scottie Hazelton. I thought that was a really

748
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: nice higher defensive coordinator. You know, he's in that tree,

749
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: that coaching tree. He was at Wyoming with Craig Boll.

750
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: Schedule wise, they're in a good ish place. They have

751
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, they go back to Starkville. I think it's

752
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: week three, they go to Stillwater. The November is pretty tough.

753
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: They're at Texas. They have West Virginia at Texas Tech,

754
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: and Iowa State. They were not that far away from

755
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 1: being a wild card last year. TCU, Baylor, Iowa State,

756
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: Texas were all real close and winnable at moment moments,

757
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: and I think they can get to seven and five

758
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: this year. I think when you have an improved I mean,

759
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: if you are able to maintain the discipline so they

760
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: didn't shoot themselves in the foot they were Obviously it's

761
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: a Bill Snyder team. They're well coached. They're gonna, you know,

762
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: to grind out wins. If they're able to maintain that

763
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: and then get something offensively. I think they're seven and five,

764
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: eight and fourteen. Worst case they're overhauling everything and they're

765
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: five and seven again or something like that. But I

766
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: think the variance is pretty wide, and if they can

767
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: keep recruiting at this clip, I know their class is

768
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: pretty much already put together. I'm feeling very good. The

769
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: North Dakota State model that you mention is different in

770
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: the Big twelve because they were able to rely on

771
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: guys in Wisconsin and Minnesota and in the Dakota's And

772
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: I know there are other really good FCS schools in

773
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: the you know, North Dakota, South Dakota and Northern Iowa,

774
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: stuff like that, but in that general area, if you

775
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: were a pretty good player but not Big ten level

776
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: and maybe borderline mac and you were from Minnesota, Wisconsin,

777
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: and maybe you want it to be a big fish

778
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: in a slightly smaller pond, you see Carson. What's the

779
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. That's the guy the NFL get drafted in

780
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: top one to two pick whatever. Maybe that's attractive to you.

781
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: It's different down in Kansas when the best players can

782
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: or borderline players can still go to Texas Tech, they

783
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: can still go to Baylor, they can go to TCU,

784
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: and they're not necessarily as attracted to Kansas State. I

785
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,479
Speaker 1: hope it's not the case, but I think that model

786
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 1: is going to be a little bit more difficult to replicate.

787
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: It's going to have to be tweaked. It can't be

788
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 2: the same where you're recruiting from northern Minnesota. That's not

789
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: great work but feel good. But can it be tweaked?

790
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 2: Can it be modified so that it works in that

791
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 2: part of the country. I think absolutely.

792
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: If you're able to put together sound game plans, if

793
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: you're able to teach your team effectively, if you're able

794
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 1: to get buy in every week, even if you start

795
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: zero to three, you're gonna win a lot more often

796
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: than you're not. In a pretty wide open conference, which

797
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: right now, given Oklahoma's defense, given questions about Texas, all

798
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: think Kansas is Kansas State's competing for the conference. But

799
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: you can win more often than not. Like the move.

800
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: I like it, I do im in I am as well.

801
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: Where are we going next? All right, let's go, let's

802
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: go to Tech. Let's go to another new coach. Let's

803
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: go to Lubbock because it's been far too long without

804
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: mentioning British comedy legen Alan Bowman and his ceiling, which

805
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: I think is sky high. I mean, I'm kind of

806
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: jealous that you are the one to talk about Texas Tech.

807
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 1: They hire Matt Wells. He's not an air raid guy

808
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: as obviously Mike Leach and Brave Tommy Homer and then

809
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury were Cliffy Cliff Kingsbury. But the pieces are

810
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: in place, quarterback, receiver, just offensive skill in general, improve

811
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: defense to go. I'm not gonna say seamlessly, but kind

812
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: of seamlessly from one one pass happy system to another

813
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: and and keep progressing all around. Do you do you

814
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: think that's true? Or is this a full reboot in

815
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: the in the vision of Matt Wells, this is this

816
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 1: is not a reboot.

817
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: Okay, this is not a reboot like you might see

818
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: elsewhere when you get a new coach. I think the

819
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: offense is actually going to be similar enough to what

820
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: they ran last season, which is good news for your boy,

821
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: for our boy, Bridge Comedy legend Allen Bowman moment. He

822
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: was outstanding as a freshman last year. He actually led

823
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 2: the nation in passing before he suffered that collapsed along. Now,

824
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: so this is a kid who's got a ton of talent.

825
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna see a lot of the same concepts.

826
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 2: I think you're gona see a lot of tempo this year,

827
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: and I think it suits the offense well. Now, they

828
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 2: need to stay healthy out wide, they really do. They

829
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: need to find a way to get TJ Vasher the ball.

830
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: He's the six to sixth beast of a wideout who's

831
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: a matchup advantage every time and he's on the field.

832
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: And then there are other names you should listen for.

833
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 2: Excuse me, Seth Collins, Kashawn Carter, he's a burner. We've

834
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: got a red shirt freshman. Another guy can't say, I'm

835
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: gonna try Eric Azukenma.

836
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Speaker 1: I don't have it in front of me. So you

837
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: did an a plus job. I'm just steering into it.

838
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: Man.

839
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Speaker 1: I have a hard time with some of these.

840
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: Then we've got to transfer McLean Mannix, who put up

841
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: stats at Nevada the line, the line has the most

842
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: returning starts.

843
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: In the Big twelve.

844
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 2: You wrap that all together, Dan, and this should be

845
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 2: a really high powered offense. Again, moving away from Cliff Kingsbury,

846
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: moving towards now Matt Wells. Maybe not an air raid guy,

847
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: but he's passionate. He's trying to change the culture. He's

848
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: really trying to build in this sense of accountability, all

849
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: the sorts of things that you hear from a new

850
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: head football coach. But I think it all plays very

851
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 2: nicely into a young core of players that are coming

852
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: back for twenty nineteen. So offense, offensively, they should be

853
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: I think pretty outstanding. The defensive side of the ball

854
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 2: is where I texted you or why I texted you.

855
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: There was a line in not one, but many of

856
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: the Texas Tech previews that I read Keith Patterson, new

857
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, talking about guys getting ready to play a

858
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: more aggressive attacking style.

859
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: Aggressive attacking.

860
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: I love it, yeah, of course, and if you're a

861
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: Texas Tech fan you should love it too. Utah State,

862
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: where Patterson comes from, along with Matt Wells, had thirty

863
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: two takeaways last year that was tied for best in

864
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: the nation. They've got a really good pass rusher, and

865
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: Eli Howard had fifteen hurries and nine sacks as a sophomore.

866
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: I think they're trying to build better on defense. It

867
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 2: might take them a little bit to get there, but

868
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 2: this is a good team. This is a good team.

869
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 2: I'm excited about Texas Tech. They've got road games against

870
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 2: Oklahoma and Texas, which isn't great m h. Otherwise, though,

871
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: the schedule's okay. Early on, Tech has Montana State UTEP

872
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: and then a road game against Arizona.

873
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: Pretty good, although I think Arizona's gonna be okay this year.

874
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 2: Arizona might be okay this year. Yeah, a lot of

875
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: offense in that game, to say the least. Otherwise, though,

876
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: you know, there's a road game against West Virginian there,

877
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: it could be tricky. I guess West Virginia is sort

878
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: of a piece of definite. Yeah, And obviously a lot

879
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 2: of the teams we're talking about in the Big Twelve

880
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: should be I think improved. But as it stands, the

881
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: schedule isn't as bad as it could be. The over

882
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 2: under for Tech right now sits at six.

883
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: I love the over there, do you okay, So that

884
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: would be this is me speaking, not you, Montana State,

885
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: U TEP, Kansas YEP, Kansas State, West Virginia, Baylor, that's six.

886
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: That's six. Arizona would be seven. I think they beat Arizona, Dan,

887
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's tough. Arizona's defense is putrid. It

888
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: is bad. It is very bad. In Utah State because

889
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: you mentioned, you know, David Yost at offensive coordinator who's

890
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: had success both at Missouri and I think he was

891
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: a receivers coach for Mike Leach at Washington State and

892
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: then Utah State last year. Will not talk about his

893
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: one year at Oregon. They finished eighth in the country

894
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: in offensive points per drive, no garbage time, and eleventh

895
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 1: on defense because you mentioned the aggressive attacking Keith Patterson,

896
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: so encouraging that they got to that point that even

897
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: if Texas Tech is not fully formidable this year, that

898
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, Wow, this is this is a more

899
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: complete Texas Tech team than we've seen in a long time.

900
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: Would be something we might say.

901
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: If Alan Bowman stays healthy, yeah, this could be a

902
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 2: dynamic offense.

903
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: And that I asked you a question, Yes, so I

904
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 1: was looking up the quarterbacks from twenty eighteen who both

905
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 1: against their conference opponents, led the nation in either rating

906
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: or yards per attempt. As you might imagine, it was

907
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray into a tongue of a top that list.

908
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: Do you have a guess?

909
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: Be it?

910
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, Will Greer, Dwayne Haskins, whoever? Who is

911
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 1: number three? I don't know. Is it kJ Costello?

912
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 2: Maybe?

913
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: Is it Derek King, British comedy legend, Alan Bowman. It's

914
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: not British comedy legend Alan Bowman. I don't know if

915
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: he had enough stats to qualify enough games started. It's

916
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: Brock party. Yeah, it's Brock party. So the break said,

917
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: I just wanted to I wanted to circle right on

918
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 1: back to Ames Iowa, Daniel. Let's go to West Virginia.

919
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: Okay, new coaches here, your boy Brown from Troy, my guy.

920
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: He is switching up the defense from a three three

921
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 2: five to more of a hybrid y four two front

922
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: four two five sort of yeah, right, sort of. Two

923
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 2: questions on this A does West Virginia have the personnel

924
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 2: to make the switch? And then B can they be

925
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: better on defense because of it? In twenty nineteen, because

926
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: that's really been an Achilles Hill for them as well.

927
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: Sort of yes, I mean Tony Gibson I thought did

928
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: a really nice job bringing West Virginia from pretty bad

929
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: to pretty dangerous a couple of years ago, three four

930
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: years ago. Last year they were not good. Last year

931
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: they struggled. The good news is, I think, given what

932
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: he runs and where he happened to be coaching these

933
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: past few years, Vic Caning is potentially a very very

934
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: good fit for what West Virginia is going to be

935
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: transitioning sort of to, because he kind of already also

936
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: runs a three three five. He's pretty multiple upfront. Sometimes

937
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: it's a three man front, sometimes it's a four man front.

938
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: And my guy, VIC loves a good hybrid player nickname.

939
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: I think he's got a spear. I think he's got

940
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: a bandit. There's all sorts of names for players. I

941
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: think there's got a hybrid outside linebacker safety who I

942
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: believe is the spear and the bandit is the hybrid

943
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: linebacker defensive end who plays pretty close to the line

944
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 1: of scrimmage under vicating at Troy, who comes with Neil

945
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: Brown to West Virginia. They were very very good against

946
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: the run, which who knows how much. That fully means

947
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: in the Big Twelve, they were decent against the pass,

948
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: They generated turnovers, their havoc great was through the roof.

949
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: He's everything I would want in a transitioning defense in

950
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: the Big twelve. Essentially, he's been around. He was in Illinois,

951
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: he was at North Carolina. He's coached a number of places.

952
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: I think he interviewed. Where did he interview recently? I

953
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: think Oklahoma State I saw and they ultimately hired Jim Knowles.

954
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: So he's a big name that if West Virginia can

955
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: generate havoc, if they can continue what Troy was doing

956
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: in the air as I want to say, the best

957
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: passing team in the Sun Belt last year. You know

958
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: it's a new quarterback in Austin Kendall would probably be

959
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: nicer if Will greor we're back, but it's not the case.

960
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 1: Austin Kendall is the probable starter. The Oklahoma transfer Kennedy

961
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: McCoy is back, a strong all purpose running back, pretty

962
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: big hit at receiver. TJ. Simmons is the big new

963
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: name there. I don't love their line, but you asked

964
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: about defense. The defensive line is in good shape. There

965
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: are bodies, there is it the deepest. I don't know,

966
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: but there are bodies along the defensive line that I

967
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: think can get it done. And Reek Havoc linebacker is thin,

968
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: but they get healthier there and they've shown a good

969
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: amount of promise there defensive back. Okay, I can't fully

970
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: say they're really good. After watching them play against Oklahoma

971
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: last year. They didn't. You know, Ed Reid is not

972
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: going to be starting in center field for West Virginia,

973
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: said the sports talk radio. But as for your question,

974
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: do they have the manpower? Do they have the ability?

975
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: I don't think they're transitioning in a dramatic way. Defensively,

976
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 1: I like vacaining. I like the transition. If Austin Kendall

977
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: is really good and the defense can get off the

978
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: field pretty quickly, it's be a good team. They went

979
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: eight and three last year. They lose that shootout to Oklahoma.

980
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: They gave away the Oklahoma State game. I think it

981
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: was three touchdowns in the fourth quarter. They give up.

982
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: They just regressed. And so if they're able to play

983
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: more disciplined, if Austin Kendall is good, if the defense

984
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: is wreaking havoc eight and fourteen, you know it's a

985
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: nice first year given how well they've recruited skill position

986
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: guys and where they are defensively. Worst case scenario, it

987
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: takes some time to install on both both sides of

988
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: the ball. It is a tough non conference schedule. They

989
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: go to Missouri and they have NC State. They have

990
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: a tough October stretch with Texas, Siowa State, and Oklahoma

991
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: in Norman. It could be a six and six, five

992
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: and seven type year, one mucky kind of year, mucky.

993
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: It could be mucky. I am leaning towards they're a

994
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: bowl team that I was. I've been low on West

995
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: Virginia in years past, where you've been higher. I think

996
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: they're a bowl team for sure. I just like the

997
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 1: fact that they got a Neil Brown and be Austin Kendall. Yeah.

998
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: Bringing Austin Kendall over should help. Oh, it absolutely should help.

999
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: And you know, they they were bad in the bowl

1000
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: game against Syracuse, but they didn't start Will Greer. You know,

1001
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: losing guys who've been around forever like David Sills and

1002
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. But I think they're okay.

1003
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be all right. I think they're

1004
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: gonna be I mean, listen, if they just clean up,

1005
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, allowing huge plays and giving and giving up

1006
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: stupid penalty yardage, they're better. They're just they're already better.

1007
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: So I feel pretty good I have.

1008
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: I have a high degree of confidence that Neil Brown

1009
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 2: will be better at building an all around team than

1010
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 2: Dana Holgerson, which was yeah, lopsided offense being dynamic most years,

1011
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 2: and defense being hit or miss right.

1012
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: And I believe I'm googling this as we speak, though.

1013
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 1: Good connection. Tony Gibson, the longtime defense coordinate at West Virginia,

1014
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: is now running the defense at NC State, who West

1015
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: Virginia has early on. So familiarity there, circle of life. Okay,

1016
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 1: where are we going next? All right, let's go to Baylor.

1017
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: How about that. Let's go to Baylor, who had a

1018
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: pretty promising year last year.

1019
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: You want to talk about cutting the brakes out from

1020
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 2: Iolas to God. Let's talk about my Baylor Bears.

1021
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: Let's talk about your Baylor Bears. Yea, their competitive last year,

1022
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: they won a bowl game. Last year, they find a

1023
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: quarterback for sure. Last year. They're ahead of where I

1024
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: think a lot of people thought they'd be given the

1025
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: talent drain in Waco. They're still not. It doesn't seem

1026
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: particular really deep in a in a pretty open, big

1027
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: twelve middle class. But does that matter?

1028
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 2: Does it?

1029
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: Does it make it easier given the changes at West Virginia, Kansas,

1030
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: Kansas State to uh who my in Texas Tech to

1031
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 1: maybe uh to find eight wins?

1032
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: I have a lot to say about Bailey this year, Dan,

1033
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna sit down a lot to say

1034
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: about the Baylor Bears. The most important thing to remember

1035
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 2: is something you touched on. Matt Rule is still building

1036
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: this program. He had to basically raise the whole thing

1037
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 2: and start fresh. So you're gonna read You're still gonna

1038
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 2: read a lot about you know, trying to find the

1039
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 2: right starting.

1040
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: Five quote unquote, or.

1041
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: You know, depth issues along the defensive front, or guys

1042
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: switching positions to find where they might be able to contribute.

1043
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 2: All that stuff is is very much in line with

1044
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: I think what you'd expect given the starting point that

1045
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 2: Matt Rule had Here. They're all really young, which is

1046
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: another thing to keep in mind, So temper what I'm

1047
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 2: about to say accordingly, Okay, I think this team is

1048
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 2: positioned really well, really well to continue improving you know

1049
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 2: where I stand on Charlie Brewer at quarterback. Let's start there.

1050
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 2: But you talked about him a couple of weeks ago.

1051
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 2: Last year had a one thirty eight QB rating, just

1052
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 2: nine interceptions in three hundred and ninety attempts as a sophomore.

1053
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: I really like him.

1054
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 2: I really like Denzel Mims out wide. The line is

1055
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: the work in progress. That's a work in progress.

1056
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: That's a rough line.

1057
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: That's a rough line. They're still trying to mix and

1058
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 2: match and find the right combination there. They're going to

1059
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 2: get better. It's not saying much because they gave up

1060
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 2: the most sacks in the Big Twelve two years running.

1061
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 2: But I don't think they can get any worse. I

1062
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 2: don't think offense is going to be an issue here.

1063
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 2: I really do think they're going to be fine on offense.

1064
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 2: Watch out for Trestan Ebner in the backfield. Junior running

1065
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: back Chris Platt is back at wide receiver. He's a

1066
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: six year senior. He's going to get some work. And

1067
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 2: Matt Rule's really excited about Josh Fleeks out wide. He

1068
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 2: only had fourteen catches as a freshman last year, but

1069
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 2: they're talking about him as some sort of dynamic playmaker.

1070
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: To me, we should make a list of players that

1071
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: coaches are excited about, and they're excited about all. Revisit

1072
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: all the players.

1073
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: The problem that they need to solve most immediately is

1074
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 2: playmaking on defense, because last season they forced only ten

1075
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 2: turnovers all year.

1076
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: Long, and that's not going to be random. We can

1077
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: be random.

1078
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: It relies on luck, no doubt, but ten turnovers in

1079
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 2: one season is not good enough. Secondly, they allowed twenty

1080
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: five touchdowns of thirty or more yards and eighteen touchdowns

1081
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 2: of forty or more yards DAN, So it's not just

1082
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 2: a turnover playmaking, it's just stopping the big plays from happening.

1083
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 2: They got to get better to do with that. I

1084
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 2: don't know if they rely on their linebacking corps to

1085
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 2: help guide them through that. That's really the one position

1086
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: of depth on that defense. But they got to find

1087
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 2: some way to solve that riddle because it killed them

1088
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 2: killed them last year. There was a lot of good

1089
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: on that defense, just a couple plays here and there,

1090
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 2: a lot of plays here and there that were bad news.

1091
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: The schedule is backloaded big time into November. They're at TCU,

1092
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 2: They've got Oklahoma and Texas all in November. I saw

1093
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 2: one game by game projection that had Baylor at nine

1094
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: and three. That feels a little generous to me, really

1095
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: really generous to me. I think eight and four. Eight

1096
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: and four is realistic. Eight and four, if I'm being

1097
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 2: really optimistic, is where I come down on this team.

1098
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: There is plenty of room to move down on that

1099
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 2: scale if you so desire. But I'm going to be

1100
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: very optimistic on Baylor this year because I like Charlie

1101
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: Brewers so much. I like Matt Rule as a football

1102
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: coach so much. Eight and four, I'm gonna go real

1103
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 2: optimistic with the Bears.

1104
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: I know this is a good thing. If this this

1105
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: is happening, it speaks well of your coach and his ability.

1106
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: I mean, are you are you banking on long term

1107
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: mat Rule and Waco?

1108
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 2: No?

1109
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: I mean, is he the Houston Texans coach next year?

1110
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: Is he you know, the Arizona Cardinals if Cliffy is

1111
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: a disaster? Is he in Washington or Buffalo like that?

1112
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 2: He is?

1113
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: Yes, he talked to the Colts. Reportedly, he talked to

1114
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: the Colts. It's it's well known. I think at this

1115
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: point that Matt Ruhle is willing to listen, right, and no,

1116
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: perhaps sign an offered contract. Yeah, I am not.

1117
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 2: I am not at all banking on him long term,

1118
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 2: but right, I think he's a really good football coach

1119
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 2: and he's done a good job guiding Bailor through this

1120
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 2: rough patch. Here. Just take that on its face. I

1121
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 2: like I like their youth. I like the fact that

1122
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 2: they play hard. I like the fact that it seems

1123
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: as if they're getting better, and carry that forward now

1124
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 2: to twenty nineteen that I.

1125
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: Think could mean eight wins.

1126
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 2: Where do you want to go, Daniel, I want to

1127
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 2: talk about the final team on your side here, Okay,

1128
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 2: let's talk about Oklahoma State.

1129
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: Yes, new quarterback this year? Play the spicy sound please.

1130
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1131
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes you bite into a wing and it's super duper spicy.

1132
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes that's a good thing. Sometimes are like, oh, this

1133
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: is interesting flavor and all. But they're using a different

1134
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: kind of chili pepper and there's good crunch to it

1135
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: and there's like an interesting after burn. I'm using weird

1136
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: lingo to discuss something that ultimately is going to come

1137
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: back to Oklahoma State football. But sometimes you just bite

1138
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: into something and it's spicy and you're like, well, this

1139
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: is just burning. Oklahoma State can go a number of

1140
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: directions this year in terms of spice. They can go

1141
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: in the oh damn. Sean Gleeson is a revelation for

1142
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: this offense. You know, as good as Mike Yersick was,

1143
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: which he was excellent, you look at what Mason Rudolph

1144
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: did and Justice Hill and you know Junkyard, Jim Washington,

1145
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: all these guys who put up enormous yards and won

1146
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: huge games. I think Sean Lison offers something a little

1147
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: bit different, and I think there's more creativity. I think

1148
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of Chris Peterson to him with

1149
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: tempo spread. I think there's that kind of you know,

1150
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: playing forty called forty chess, is that you're forty forty?

1151
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 2: Do you know?

1152
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: You know how?

1153
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: I know that you're excited what Olahoma State? Yeah, you

1154
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 2: didn't even let me ask my question. I know, so

1155
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna lest play here talk to me about

1156
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State. I think you're very excited about them, aren't you.

1157
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: No? I am, well, I am because I finally sat

1158
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: down and watched some clips of Princeton football, where he

1159
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: was the offensive coordinator of these past couple of years.

1160
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: And he could bring something really really interesting to the

1161
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: Big twelve, something pretty not novel, but wrinkles that that

1162
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: would be pretty exciting to watch. So I assume your

1163
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: question is something in the way of what are they

1164
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: going to look like on offense or what's what's the

1165
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: impact going to be something with that.

1166
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 2: New quarterback, new offensive coordinator, new offensive line coach. Yeah,

1167
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 2: what does all that mean for Oklahoma State? What does

1168
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 2: it mean for the offense that we know and love

1169
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: and are used to seeing, And how much different, if

1170
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 2: at all, will it look.

1171
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: So a recent headline I saw was two quarterback system

1172
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:29,439
Speaker 1: question mark coaches are saying it's a possibility, oh boy,

1173
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: And that would be Drew Brown, who set out last

1174
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: year five eleven. They thought he was gonna win the

1175
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: job last year. He's he's not huge about five to eleven.

1176
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: But the transfer from Hawaii who's played a lot, and

1177
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: then Spencer Sanders, red shirt freshman, big arm, you know,

1178
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: a big, big recruit. I really hope it doesn't go

1179
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: in that direction. I really hope they don't go with

1180
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: what I considered to be the equivalent of an open marriage.

1181
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: We're like, this makes sense, Let's see what we got

1182
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: and then just like in practice, like, oh, this is

1183
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: a nightmare. So I whoever wins the job is going

1184
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: to have a very good running back next to them,

1185
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: behind them whatever in Cuba Howard Cuba Hubbard. Excuse me,

1186
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: I think that's auto correct. My notes corrected Hubbard to Howard.

1187
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: Sure Tylan Wallace maybe the best receiver. I mean, Ceedee

1188
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: Lamb is, you know, huge Jalen Rager, but Tylan Wallace is,

1189
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: in the conversation best receiver. I think he was a

1190
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: Bolittannikov finalist along with Dylan Stoner. They have a lot

1191
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: of interesting skill They've They've recruited receiver very well. The

1192
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: offensive line is experienced dot dot dot, but not great.

1193
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where like, okay, I can

1194
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: learn from their past mistakes they have. They have a

1195
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: new offensive line coach, Charlie Dickey comes over from Kansas State.

1196
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: He's a long time Bill Snyder guy. You know, year

1197
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: after year with this offense at at Oklahoma State with

1198
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: Mike Yersick, they put up a ton of huge plays.

1199
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: I imagine that's going to continue. It seems likely that

1200
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: it'll continue. So what is it going to look like

1201
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna be they're gonna spread out, They're gonna hunt

1202
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: for mismatches. There's gonna be a lot of motion before

1203
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: the snap. They're gonna play with pace. There's gonna be

1204
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: a lot of red zone creativity. I saw a wild

1205
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: Princeton play from a couple of years ago where it

1206
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: was like a jet sweep, fake run path, I don't

1207
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: know whatever was It was great, some real creativity down

1208
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: near the goal line. I think it's going to take

1209
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: some time. I think the verbiage, I think the comfort

1210
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: in the offense is going to take some time to

1211
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: get comfortable. But ultimately I think it's a pretty wise investment.

1212
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: So what's it going to look like? At times really

1213
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: friggin fun, other times against some of the better defenses

1214
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: in the conference, kind of ugly and off the field

1215
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. Ultimately, again, I'm very excited about the potential

1216
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: of Sean Gleeson. In Oklahoma State. This was you know,

1217
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: we talk about the allue between offense and defense. The

1218
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: defense did an okay job of getting off the field

1219
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: because of their pass rush, but they were awful against

1220
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: the run. Tie no, And if you were going to

1221
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: leave the offense on the sideline because a team is

1222
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: just pumping out six yard run after six yard run,

1223
01:04:58,040 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: and it's not great. So they need to get a

1224
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: lot better. Inside on defense was the worst rush defense

1225
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: in the Big Twelve last year, which was sort of

1226
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: strange because if you remember, they shut down Boise State

1227
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: Madison Avenue, but they just collapsed. They fully collapsed again.

1228
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: The pass rush was fine. The big plays have to

1229
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 1: have to go. Me turnover margin has to get better.

1230
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: I just man, there's so it can go in so

1231
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: many directions. I'm very excited for this season. Give me

1232
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: a win total, give me a take all. Right, the

1233
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: best case for Oklahoma State, they're probably going nine to

1234
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: three best case, which is an incredible bounce back year.

1235
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: A quarterback works out, the offense clicks quickly. That's a

1236
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: nice non conference schedule. Even if the defense is only

1237
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: okay against the run, that's an improvement. Worst case, neither

1238
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: Drew Brown or Spencer Sanders really clicking the offense right away.

1239
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: It's inconsistent. The defense is still leaky against the run.

1240
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: Six and six, seven and five again, So I think

1241
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: there's pretty high variants, and in a pretty wide open

1242
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: conference to have you know, a lot returning including a

1243
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: a gravitational big play receiver in Tylan Wallace. It's a

1244
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: it's a significant leg up. All right, damn, are you

1245
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: looking forward to this Oklahoma State team? I? Yes, I

1246
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 1: went through.

1247
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 2: I probably didn't read as much about Oklahoma State as

1248
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: you did, right, But everything that I read twenty two

1249
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 2: boom or bust. Yeah, to your point, it could go

1250
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 2: a bunch of different directions. So I have a tremendous

1251
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 2: amount of confidence in Mike Gundy to assemble the pieces. Okay,

1252
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 2: he'd been very consistent in his time at Oklahoma State.

1253
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,439
Speaker 2: I think he'll find a way to get the job done.

1254
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 2: But there are a lot of unknowns here.

1255
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 1: What does that mean getting the job done? Flirting with

1256
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: double digit wins getting the job done? Yeah, So the

1257
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: losses have to come somewhere. We have We definitely have

1258
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: one team that we've not talked about that is going

1259
01:06:58,160 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: to generate a lot of losses.

1260
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 2: I believe they're the last one on our list here.

1261
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: Because we're talking about I said Kansas State, I had

1262
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: as a worst case scenario about four and eight. That's

1263
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: the absolute bottom to me for Kansas State. The other

1264
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: teams that I've had as not Bowl eligible, I think

1265
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: I mentioned five and seven with West Virginia Oklahoma State

1266
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: I have as Bowl eligible pretty much no matter what,

1267
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: and obviously with Oklahoma I do as well. Who do

1268
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: you have as a worst case of the teams that

1269
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: you have previewed other than Kansas we're about to talk about.

1270
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: Who do you think you know? Ending up going home

1271
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: at the end of or at the beginning of December

1272
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: is a real possibility? Baylor TCU. Do you think TCU

1273
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: is bottoming out a little bit after the cheese At Bowl?

1274
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 2: Do you?

1275
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think they're going to bottom out. Okay,

1276
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: I have a lot of confidence in TCU. I think

1277
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: five and seven Texas Tech. I think five and seven

1278
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:57,959
Speaker 1: Texas Tech is a possibility. I could see things going

1279
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: sideways for Baylor if they get injuries. Yeah, I mean

1280
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: Matt Wells definitely had a couple of pretty disappointing years

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Speaker 1: Utah SED eight.

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Speaker 2: But it's not happening to Texas. I don't think it's

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01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 2: happened to PCU. Okay, the others. You could make a

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Speaker 2: case for.

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Speaker 1: It wide variants absolutely, Okay, final team. Shower your Kansas

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Speaker 1: questions upon me, please, Okay, I'm not a big believer

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Speaker 1: in Kansas. I don't know if you have there, you

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Speaker 1: should not be. I don't know if you have it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if Kansas is able to shock somebody or make you

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Speaker 1: change the channel to is this the Big twelve on

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Speaker 1: ESPN plus this year? Who knows? If they're suddenly along

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Speaker 1: the bottom line of Fox Sports or ESPN. You're like,

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Speaker 1: Kansas is up thirty one to thirty with seven minutes left.

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Speaker 1: Why will that be the case against a Big twelve opponent?

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Speaker 1: What is it about this year's Kansas squad? You're like, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to win much. First off, what was

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Speaker 1: the score? You just said, thirty one thirty.

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Speaker 2: It will never be thirty one thirty. Kansas is in

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Speaker 2: the Oh my god.

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01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,719
Speaker 1: That means it's definitely going to be thirty one thirty.

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Speaker 2: It will never be thirty one thirty. It's going to

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01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 2: have to be low scoring, and it's going to have

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01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:14,719
Speaker 2: to be against a team that struggles in the front seven.

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01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 2: Because the only way that that is possible is and this,

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01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 2: by the way, is the most less miles thing possible

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01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 2: to say, the only way that that happens is if

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01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 2: they feed the beast. That is Pucka Williams Junior a

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Speaker 2: million times. He actually has a fairly experienced line to

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Speaker 2: run behind. Doesn't mean they're great, but he's got some

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Speaker 2: experience in front of him. He's going to get a

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Speaker 2: healthy workload this year. They're going up against some team

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Speaker 2: that has a hard time defending it and less Miles

1313
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 2: is able to play ball control offense, and that's how

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Speaker 2: the game is closely.

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Speaker 1: It's the only way should mention Pooka Williams back from

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01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 1: a suspension I missed six or seven months. He's out

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Speaker 1: the first game of the year. It was a domestic

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Speaker 1: battery charge that he I think he's in a diversion program.

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Speaker 1: Missed the WAGA. Yeah. The way I hear you describing

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Speaker 1: Kansas is when one of those videos goes viral of

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Speaker 1: a senior citizen just nailing jump shots where they're just

1322
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Speaker 1: hitting eighteen footer after eighteen footer. Nobody's guarding them, right,

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01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: you know, everything is set up for a really nice environment.

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Speaker 1: So that's what you're telling me. They're going to have

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01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: to win a game in the snow, going against a

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Speaker 1: fifth string quarterback. The conditions are optimal. Somebody gets Charlie

1327
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Speaker 1: Brewer gets hurt.

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Speaker 2: It's going to have to be some combination of events

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01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 2: that is unfortunate for the opponent. And I think relies

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01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 2: a lot on Pooka Williams Junior.

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Speaker 1: But that's it.

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Speaker 2: Really, that's it. This is not going to be a

1333
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 2: good Kansas team. The big story in Lawrence is that

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01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 2: Les Miles is the new coach. He's assembled the cast

1335
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 2: of characters on the coaching staff that aren't exactly hot commodities.

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01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 2: Les Kennig, formerly of Duke Houston, Alabama, Texas A and

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Speaker 2: M South Alabama, Mississippi State.

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Speaker 1: And UAB, so he's gotten around.

1339
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 2: And then Dj Elliott on the defensive side of the

1340
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 2: ball Kentucky and Colorado wasn't great no, most recently, but

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01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 2: he will be your new defensive coordinator. So, you know,

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01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 2: Les Miles is the story. It's great to have him

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01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 2: back in college football. He's going to bring with him

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01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 2: a sense of personality and a flair and commentary that

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01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 2: only Less Miles can provide on the football field. I

1346
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 2: am far less convinced, and I'm curious to see if

1347
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Speaker 2: he can do more than just hand the ball off

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Speaker 2: to Pooka Williams.

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean, you've you've purchased a TV in

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Speaker 1: recent years, right, I have? What's that? What's a huge

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Speaker 1: selling point for new TVs? What is something about the

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Speaker 1: picture that people are really looking for, especially like cinophiles,

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Speaker 1: people super into the ice you need.

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Speaker 2: To get I don't know if they're up to eight

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Speaker 2: K now, but the resolution at a minimum, you need

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Speaker 2: to get a four K TV if you're going.

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Speaker 1: To go new What is it about color that's crucial?

1358
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 1: But you're asking really, you're asking some color blind here.

1359
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, but you want deep black, right, you want

1360
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: the deep black. That's why I went with an old read. Right,

1361
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 1: you want with an O lead because it has that

1362
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: deep black, and so if you set that that black

1363
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 1: tone at a certain depth, then everything really pops, right,

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01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 1: That's right? Yeah. I think this applies to Less Miles

1365
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 1: hair coloring. I think the deeper and richer the color

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01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,560
Speaker 1: he goes with, I think if he can get to that,

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01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:49,959
Speaker 1: there's certain paints that are like the darkest, darkest black possible.

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01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: I think if he can get that involved in his

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01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: look by twenty twenty, okay, they can go to a

1370
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: bowl game. The darker his hair, the better.

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Speaker 2: Kansas Football were talking about less Miles. Here is what

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01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 2: I think I'm hearing.

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01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: I'm not saying for a goth reason. I'm not saying

1374
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,600
Speaker 1: for the full like dark look, no, okay, I'm just

1375
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: saying his hair color has varied so much over the years.

1376
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 1: He had like a sandy copper era. It's darker than

1377
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 1: ever now, which I love. I think I think he

1378
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: has to go even darker. We're also Kansas has to

1379
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: go full o lead.

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01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 2: We're also in the era of less Miles wearing that

1381
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 2: pancake makeup in the old Capital one commercials?

1382
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 1: Was it Capital One?

1383
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 2: Sure?

1384
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 1: I have no idea.

1385
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 2: I don't remember what that commercial series is for. Yeah,

1386
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,839
Speaker 2: but the pancake makeup was a bit ominous.

1387
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 1: Puka Williams oh lead depth for less Miles. Yeah, I

1388
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 1: mean this is going to take a while. If if

1389
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 1: less Miles is more about improving Kansas fully, you know,

1390
01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: getting back to how much he was respected for a

1391
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: time at LSU as a as a really good coach.

1392
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be really recruit like he was at LSU.

1393
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be on the stage like he was

1394
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: at LSU. But if he is the guy to keep

1395
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: hiring and keep recruiting and build the talent level up,

1396
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 1: take advantage of some uncertainty, if you know, things go

1397
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,839
Speaker 1: sideways for for West Virginia and Texas Tech and Oklahoma

1398
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: State and Kansas State, whoever, if he's there building a

1399
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: solid program, if he can get them to wherever Kansas

1400
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,799
Speaker 1: State was averaging at. I know that sounds like insulting

1401
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: for for Kansas fans, probably Kansas State fans. If he

1402
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: can get them to that, if you get them the

1403
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 1: seven wins a year, my god, heroic, don't think it's

1404
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Dan, It's gonna be a while. It's gonna

1405
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: be a while. I just well, he's the guy.

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01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 2: Let me close out with this, Okay, Okay, I'm gonna

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01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 2: put together a hypothetical proposition bet for you you get

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01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 2: either Homo or the group of Texas, Oklahoma State, and

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01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,719
Speaker 2: Iowa State to win the Big Twelve in twenty nineteen.

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01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 1: Which side of that better you're taking. I mean, you're

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01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: essentially giving me Oklahoma or the field, right essentially? Yeah,

1412
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm taking the field for sure. There are ways for

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01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: things to go wrong. There are more ways for things

1414
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 1: to go wrong with a single school than there are

1415
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 1: for everybody else. All screwing up to me. All right,

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01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: you're giving me odds. I mean, you're just the odds

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01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 1: are that with ten teams and teams that Oklahoma has

1418
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 1: lost too recently in Texas and Iowa state. Yeah, I'm

1419
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: going to struggled with at times.

1420
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Speaker 2: I've got a homemade spreadsheet where I calculate points per drive. Yeah,

1421
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 2: I am playing the probability of this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know how I feel about Brock Party

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Speaker 1: Dwayne the Brock Johnson. Yeah, I know it's okay. Really,

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Speaker 1: would He's America sweetheart, all right?

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Speaker 2: Well as always right in It's Oliverblegmail dot com or

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Speaker 2: Let us know what we got right, what we got wrong,

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Speaker 2: Where you agree disagree, It all goes with the territory.

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Speaker 2: But we are now officially in preview mode. Our next

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Speaker 2: episode is going to drop on Sunday. We will be

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01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 2: talking about the PAC twelve. Dan's got the North. Obviously,

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01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 2: I've got the South. We are going to continue attacking

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Speaker 2: every conference in this fashion. And by the way, for

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Speaker 2: those of you who have asked the important question, why

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Speaker 2: was it Notre Dame part of the ACC that's my fault.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna lump them in with their geographic peers that

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Speaker 2: are in the Big ten.

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Speaker 1: Mac Oh what what? I also want to do some

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01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 1: G five stuff as we get closer to the season.

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01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 1: We'll do G two we have to. Yeah, we'll do

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Speaker 1: some G five stuff too. Ye who's in the Because

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Speaker 1: you asked me about champion Oklahoma versus the field, who's

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Speaker 1: in the championship game?

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Speaker 2: To you, I it's Oklahoma Texas, Oklahoma Texas. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: it's the easy answer, but I think that's the right answer.

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma Iowa State could happen.

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Speaker 1: And that's not great because there's a good chance, you know,

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01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: Iowa State, if they're in that game, they go in,

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01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: you know, maybe they lose to Iowa and they're nine

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01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 1: and three and all of a sudden, you have a

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01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 1: ten and three Big twelve champion and whoop, no playoff.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, don't.

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Speaker 2: Emails are flying back and forth, not just between you

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Speaker 2: and I, but also with the venues, the people going

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Speaker 2: Get you ready for college football season in the funnest way.

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, that's all I got. It's all I

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Speaker 1: got as well. Thank you for bearing with.

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Speaker 2: Us here as we talked about all things Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: We will be back on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, enjoy the rest of your week, enjoy

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Speaker 2: the beginning part of your weekend, and until next time,

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Speaker 2: stay solid peace,