1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Good afternoon. I'd like to begin by thanking our director 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: of college Scouting, Chris Pettitt, his staff, Chris Marrick, Kevin Abrams, 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: mock CON's Pat Sherman, and the coaches for all their 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: diligence and putting together this year's draft board. I really 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: can't thank them enough, and thank you um. With the 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: college draft a week away, we're coming to the second 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: part of what I call the roster building season. Football 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: is the ultimate team game, and while it may be 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: difficult for some to understand, building a roster is not 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: just about collecting talent, excuse me, um. It's not just 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: about how fast, strong, or talented a player is, but 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: does he fit athletically, intellectually, and culturally what you're trying 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: to accomplish, which is to win a Super Bowl. Recently, 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: there was an article in USA Today written by Dan 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: Wolkin I think is probably pronounced at w O l 16 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: k e N. I'd recommend that everybody read it. And 17 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: what he did was he was discussing two of the 18 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: college college's premier men's basketball programs excuse me, Duke in Kentucky, 19 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: and the article was written after they had been eliminated 20 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: from this year's NC Double Double a tournament, and really 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: and truly the final paragraph really put what I believe 22 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: into a nutshell, and I quote, as long as Shashevsky 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: and Caliparia coaching, they're going to get their best their 24 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: share of the best recruits every single year because of 25 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: the pathway they've established to the NBA. But both programs 26 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: have now just have to not now have discovered it 27 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: in the tournament that elite recruiting and good roster roster 28 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: construction don't mean the same thing. As Lou Lamorello most 29 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: recently said, players win games and teams win championships. Okay, 30 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: the only major transaction I haven't talked to you guys 31 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: about since the press conference was was about Sterling Shepardy 32 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: getting him extended. You know, obviously we feel Sterling is 33 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: a very important pot of of who we want to 34 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: be moving forward, and he earned this contract and we're 35 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: thrilled to have have had the ability to get him extended. 36 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: And finally, guys, is the folks I shouldn't say, guys, 37 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: I apologize. There's a pre draft pressor, so let's let's 38 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: talk about the draft. Okay, pre draft draft pressor, let's 39 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: talk about the draft and let the games begin. You've 40 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: said this is a really strong draft. What is it 41 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: about the draft in particular that makes you think that 42 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 1: and believe that? Well, it's it's frankly, you know, we've 43 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: pretty much set the board. Jordan's you know, we're tweaking 44 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: it a little bit here, a little bit there. The 45 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: scouts went home. I sent him home for the holiday, 46 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: and uh, it gives me a chance to, you know, 47 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: do some work on my own, do some additional work. 48 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: So the board is really basically set, and I'm I'm 49 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: looking at a board and we have more players rated 50 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: it as first, second, or third in the first, second, third, 51 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: and fourth round values than that I've had in any 52 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: draft I've ever And this is my eight draft as 53 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: a GM THO seven yeah I can count seven. Okay, 54 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: So in terms of the volume of players on the board, 55 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: this is the thickest. Is selecting a quarterback a priority 56 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: for for you during this draft? I think that the 57 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: priority is to select the best players, you know, really, 58 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: and I know that sounds silly, but you know last year, 59 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: last year, again, we couldn't pass up one. He was 60 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: the best player in the draft. You can't do that 61 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: you listen. You know we've had we've had this conversation before. 62 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: You know, Eli is closer to Foty than he is. 63 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: I think we can all do the math. You know, 64 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: Fotty takeaway thirty eight, we can do that, um, But 65 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we're gonna take the 66 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: best players. Last year's say, Klon had to pass that. 67 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: Anybody at number two had to pass that gold jacket 68 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: test you're always talking about at number six. Do you 69 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: need a gold jacket guy or is that too far down, 70 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: too far from two for me? You're kind of riding 71 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: on the edge, you know, very frankly, kind of riding 72 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: on on the edge. I think that you know, hey, listen, 73 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: there are gold jacket guys that never get drafted, you know, 74 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: so that stuff happens. But you know, it's it's still 75 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: it's still about the best the guy you got. It's 76 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: still about value. It's who's going to give you the 77 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: most value with that spot. And you if again you 78 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: start reaching for need and you have these if you 79 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: do that, you get into trouble. You can never have 80 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: too many good players at one position. Be important to 81 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: look at Is it important to look at every UH selection? 82 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: You guys, have you got twelve picks? So you look 83 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: at it in terms of I have a chance to 84 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: get twelve starters on my roster, or do you take 85 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: the approach up first round talent seventh round talent. If 86 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: we got twelve stratus out of this this draft, man, 87 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: I have a hell of a time I keep guard. 88 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: But you know, all kidding aside. You know I've told 89 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: you before what you're looking to do. Uh, you know, 90 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: having twelve picks is crazy. You know, it's a lot 91 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: of picks. So one of the things I've talked about 92 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: is you don't want to draft a player that you're 93 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: gonna cut. You know, every guy you draft, theoretically there's 94 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: a reason you're drafting him. There's a reason he should 95 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: make your club first, second, third round draft picks. At 96 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: the very least. You're looking for big rotational player. Okay, 97 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: so you know everybody talks about you know, the way 98 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: the league is going now of the time. You get 99 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: your defensive sub package on, so you can easily make 100 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: the argument that your nickel Connor is a STATA. You 101 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: can make that. You can make that argument your third 102 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: wide is a STATA. You can make that argument. So 103 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: that's what you're looking for, first, second, third round guys 104 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: that can walk on the field and help you win. Now, 105 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: anything after that's a huge bonus if you if you know, hey, 106 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: Listen went out earlier, David Deal was a fifth round 107 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: uh draft pick, you know, and and a ten or 108 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: eleven year stata. You know, it's you know, so you 109 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: know that's what you're looking for. You mentioned that you 110 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: have a lot of value in rounds one to four, 111 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: does not make it give you a little bit more 112 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: flexibility if you want to move around the draft board. Absolutely, Patty, Absolutely, 113 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: it's it's you know there, I mean, obviously every position 114 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: is different. There some picient positions that are thick throughout, 115 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, for from the first round all the way down. 116 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: There some positions with his bup kiss earlier, and then 117 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden it gets real thick. And then 118 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: there are some positions where thick, nothing thick. It just 119 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: it varies. So obviously when you're when you're when your 120 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: turns coming up, you're gonna take a look, especially if 121 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: you have a number of guys that you can talk 122 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: about on this that that are of equal value at 123 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: different positions, you know, So it does make a difference, Patty. 124 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: For a franchise quarterback, it's got to be a guy 125 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: that you love because it's such an important position. Does 126 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: that also apply to the second first round pick, because 127 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: there could be a guy that you like, but the 128 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: value to say, you know what I mean? I mean yeah? 129 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: Could I mean, could you see yourself not being in 130 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 1: love with a guy but using that second pick? Uh? 131 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: With with with as heavy as this draft is, to 132 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: answer that question, I'd be shocked if there'd be somebody, 133 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: if we're we're at seventeen, I'd be very surprised that 134 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: there was someone there and didn't like, somebody that you 135 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: didn't like you to do, will be someone? Yes, I'm 136 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: saying I'd be surprised if there was someone there that 137 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: I did not like. I'd be shocked. Could it be 138 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: a guy that you I mean that you are in love? 139 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Absolutely? Absolutely? You know a 140 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: quarterback and that specifically who knows Paul No when you 141 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: said at seventeen, you'd be shocked at to somebody You're 142 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: getting a player, you know, an NFL player. I've got 143 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: a quarterback. A quarterback could be could be a con, 144 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: It could be a wide receive it. You know, it 145 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: could be a sportswriter. You know, you don't know what 146 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: it was good at. What do you mean? A quarterback 147 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: is so important and you don't want to force it, 148 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: but if he's sitting there, sitting there at seventeen, the 149 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: value might be just too good, you know what. The 150 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: value might be too good for what. It might be 151 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: a guy that you don't love, a quarterback you don't love. 152 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: But you've got to listen. If we got a quarterback 153 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: RADI in the first round, we're gonna we love them. 154 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: You know. If that answers your question, did I finally 155 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: get there? Okay? In a lot of what ifs? What 156 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: do I mean by that? You have your board set, 157 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: you got, you know, your talent that you like. Is 158 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: there a guessing game? And is that dangerous to say, well, 159 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: what if we expect this team to pick this guy 160 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: but they don't. You know, it's so crazy now, you 161 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: just you know, you read all the information, You've got 162 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: eighty five mock drafts, and you know you've got guys. 163 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: You know this, this this probably twenty twenty guys that 164 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: are in everybody's first round. Okay, and history tells you 165 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: you can bet the ranch. Those guys are gonna go 166 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: all right, um, but you can't. Times have changed. Okay, 167 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: my rount this story my very first draft. I'm an 168 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: intern with the Buffalo Bills. Norm Paulum who just mostly 169 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: who just passed away, calls me in his office and 170 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: he's got a legal pad. And at that time they 171 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: were twenties six teams. I think that would have been 172 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: eighties six eighty seven draft. Steve, how many teams were 173 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: there in eight seven? Come on? Okay, So he's the 174 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: illegal pad with twenty eight teams and twenty eight names, 175 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: and he turns it around and gives it to He said, Dave, 176 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: take a look, and so I'm looking and you know whatever, 177 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: and he says, that's the draft he had twenty six. Okay, 178 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: but that's when people kid its with each other and 179 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: the phones and and and it wasn't just a whole 180 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: series of smoke screens and lies and whatever. So you know, 181 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you can't you can't 182 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: count on teams take it making who they're gonna take 183 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: this guy, and that you know this team's gonna take 184 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: that guy. You can't count on it. So you just 185 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: you just gotta relax and you know, it's just a process, 186 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: is all it is, and you just relax and see 187 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: what happens and react. You've given the depth of this draft. 188 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: Is there a better chance this year? Would you say 189 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: of marrying value with the position of need or is 190 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: it no, it's you know there is because it's it's 191 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: about volume. So the answer your question, yes, you said 192 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: that if you had a quarterback with the first round grade, 193 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: that means that you love him. I'm curious if there 194 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: are traits that help a quarterback lead to that level 195 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: of a grade in your opinion, or the way that 196 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: you built re border. It's you know, the physical obviously, 197 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: it's the physical ability to play the game. But you know, 198 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: one of the things that I really believe is and 199 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: you know this is not taking a shot at anybody, 200 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: so don't twist my words. Place, it's being the quarterback 201 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: of of of the of a a team in this 202 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: kind of a market is a load. Is a mental load, 203 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: and you've got to really vet out the backgrounds of 204 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: these guys. Okay, this is this is just like you know, 205 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: being the head coach of this team is a load. 206 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: Being being the quarterbacks a load too, And it's more 207 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: than just collecting. It's more than just looking at a 208 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: guy's physical talent. It's about his makeup. I mean, you know, hey, listen, 209 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: a lot of you guys were here realized first year. Okay, 210 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: So you know he starts the last nine games of 211 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: the year, and there are a couple of games early on. 212 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys, remember the Baltimore game was the 213 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: fourth fIF Paul exactly, something like that. Let me tell 214 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: you something. And then and so he's there, and then 215 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: we're playing Dallas in the last game of the year. 216 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: We're on the six yead line going in, we have 217 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: no time outs, there's twelve seconds left in the game, 218 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: and he has the collyones to audible to a draw. 219 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: And if we don't school, we lose the game. You know, 220 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: you you gotta have a mental toughness about you to 221 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: to play the position here in New York, really to 222 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: play the position anyway. So that's a it's a big 223 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: piece of it, and it's and it's important and if 224 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: if if you folks don't think it is, then you 225 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: need to rethink it. And that's in seventeen and sorry, 226 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: getting seventeen and ninety five is a big part of 227 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: the return in your el trade. Any extra pressure knowing 228 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: that you know those guys are gonna be judged as 229 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: part of that trade, not for me, you know. And 230 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: I don't mean to make light of it, but you know, no, 231 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: I mean it's it. We're gonna get good players with 232 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: those two picks you've got. It's got twelve picks. You've 233 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: got two in the first round, and obviously you want 234 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: to get every draft right. But does the twelve picks, 235 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: does the fact that you've talked about all the value 236 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: at the top of this draft, does that put extra 237 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: importance or extra pressure on you guys getting this one right? Now? 238 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: The pressure getting it right every year every year came in. 239 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: Last year we had five picks. That's all we had, 240 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: all right, And there's so there's there's no less pressure 241 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: with twelve than or no more pressure with twelve than 242 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: there was five. But again it's it's it doesn't make 243 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: a difference what job you have. You've got pressure, you've 244 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: got deadlines and and and there are people that look 245 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: at you, and I'm gonna look at you and say, 246 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: how do you do that? You know the game ends 247 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: that you know you've got a four stat game ends 248 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: at seven fifteen, and you better get your crap in 249 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: and twenty five minutes and you ain't got time. And oh, 250 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: by the way, the game just ended and you gotta 251 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: run down and get interviews. You guys got pressure, but 252 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: it's what you do, so you just kind of roll 253 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: with it. Well, that's kind of what I do, so 254 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: so I don't feel that pressure in scouting these quarterbacks 255 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: in their mental toughness, vetting their backgrounds. Is it valuable 256 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: too for them to have handled adversity in the past, 257 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: so you can see how they've handled it, and is 258 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: off the field as important as on exactly? Pat? You know, 259 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: it's interesting you say that. It's a hell of a question. 260 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: You know. I was talking about it with Pat back 261 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: in back during the back in late in the fall. 262 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: We're having a conversation about it, and you know, he said, 263 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, there there there's a lot of guys they 264 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: have never had adversity, and you will have adversity up here. 265 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: I don't care who you are. I like care how, 266 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: I don't care how how great a play are you. 267 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: I could, I could. I could sit down over any 268 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: year and you give me any Pro Bowl player and 269 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: I can make you a snap tape that he will 270 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: look like, you gotta be kidding me. He's getting paid 271 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: that kind of money. You gotta be kidding me. He 272 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: went to the Pro Bowl. And then of course I'll 273 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: make you the other twenty five snap tape where you're 274 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: gonna say, oh my god. You know, so, you know, 275 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: you everybody has adversity, every one of them. It's who's 276 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: mentally tough enough to say, Okay, it happened once, it's 277 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: not happening again. And and with a lot of these guys, 278 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: it's a it's a very legitimate question. You have to 279 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: really and some you've gotta dig so deep to see adverse, 280 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: see where they've had adversity. It's it's painful, but it's 281 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: it's it's part of the evaluation. You need a defensive 282 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: playmaker in this draft? Or is that something that's priority also, well, 283 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: I think that you know, we we listen, you guys 284 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: sat there and watched it. We had you know, we 285 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: went four and four the second half of the year, 286 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: and we had three games if we make a stop 287 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: with seven and one, you know, so you know, obviously 288 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 1: you know you can't have too many playmakers. I've always 289 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: been a big believer. You talk about rust of construction. 290 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: I've always been a big believer that if you look 291 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: at the great defenses, they got a lead dog in 292 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: every level, you know, like a legitimate playmaker at every 293 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: level of their defense. So yeah, we we we do 294 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: need you know, I've said it in in in the 295 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: postseason pressing, and I'll say it again, Barret, we gotta 296 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: get some defensive players here. Not to be flipping, but 297 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: do you have a lead dog at any level on 298 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: your defense right now? Ogle Tree, Alec. You know, we 299 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: the two safeties we brought in, you know, Jabral and Antoine. 300 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: You know, Antoine has been a lead dog. You know, uh, 301 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: you know they we're getting there. We're getting there. Well, 302 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, hey, listen, We're thrilled with b J. We're 303 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: thrilled with Delvin. You know it's it's you know, we 304 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: gotta keep adding to that mix. You know, the young kid, 305 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: you know, and the young guys on the outside. Lorenzo 306 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: made a lot of strides last year. You know, we're 307 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: getting there, you know it just it doesn't happen overnight. 308 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: You did have a quarterback that you read it. If 309 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: you did have a quarterback that you're readed in the 310 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: first round. Obviously, we don't know. Is there any reason 311 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 1: why you wouldn't wait to the second pick to take him. 312 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: Isn't that a position that's so important that you can't 313 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: afford to wait that long? Assuming you have one rated 314 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: in the first round, don't you have to take that 315 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: with the first bit. Depends upon who's there, depends upon 316 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: who's available. Okay, you would have said that to me 317 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: last year. I would have given you the same answer, 318 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: and you would have seen what happened. You know, you 319 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: saw how it happened. We took say one. I noticed 320 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: you talked about uh, lead dogs on defense and you 321 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: mentioned safety antide linebacker. Is it important to have that 322 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: battery going from d tackle to senate the quarterback to 323 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: running back. Be where you want your lead dogs at 324 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 1: before you build outside? I don't know that, you know 325 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: it's I don't think football is any different from any 326 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: other from it, from any other of the other three 327 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: major sports. Strength up the middle is critical, you know, 328 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: but you know your lead dog can be you know, 329 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: can can can be an outside linebacker. He could be 330 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: you know you're out, you know, an outside pass rusher. 331 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: You know it's it's you know there, listen, what you 332 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: want is talent. That's it's really what you want is 333 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't make a different one position it comes from 334 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: you have a pick in every round, but it's thirty 335 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: seven and yeah it's a big coosy. So is that 336 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: a place where you think it's gonna be hard to 337 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: watch sixty good players come off the board. So it is. 338 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: It won't be fun. It won't be fun. M you've 339 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: been watching, you've been watching film on these kids coming 340 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: out for a long time. What position group has impressed 341 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: you to most? Um? But wide's are real thick there, 342 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: you're um wides. The offensive tackles a thick rich tackles um. 343 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: Your secondary is thick, you know, thankfully condos and safeties, 344 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: condos and safeties. It's when when I say thick, I'm 345 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: talking up and down the draft, up and down the 346 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: board rounds one through seven. There's a lot of guys, 347 00:20:55,440 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: So those positions. What second? Tom women to say it 348 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: again earlier about what is and sort of figuring out, 349 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: you know, spending not wasting your time worrying about what 350 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: other teams are gonna be doing. And it seems like 351 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: this is a pretty unique situation where if the team 352 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: with the number one overall pick goes in one direction, 353 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden first round pick that you may 354 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: have liked from last year could be available. How does 355 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: that complicating things? How does that change the dynamic of 356 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: what you're gonna be doing a week from today. We're 357 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: gonna sit there and see what's cooking at six, and 358 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: then we'll go we'll go from there, and we'll go 359 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: from there. You know, with the Cardinals, I'm not going there. 360 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: I think you know for a fact that a number six, 361 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: let's say, right, you're gonna pick a guy that either 362 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be graded one to three, fo five, six, 363 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: or let's say seven or eight, and that's it, you 364 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: know what I mean, because there's only five guys that 365 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: can go ahead. You have you done the math? Look 366 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: at that? I knew you were more just so the 367 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: pretty faceball. Uh. But it depends on any fingers that 368 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: as far as I go. But you know what I'm saying, 369 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: as far as you know, the guy you pick is 370 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: going to be either rated higher or right about there, 371 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: but not really much lower at all, because you don't 372 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: have to know, and you're not going to force that 373 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: for any position at all. You can't. You're up at six, 374 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: so you don't have a quarterback in the top six. 375 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: You're just not taking I mean, you're willing to say 376 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: that right now. I'm just telling you I'm not going 377 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: to force a pick. You can't draft for need. You'll 378 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: get screwed. Every time you make you'll make a mistake. 379 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: And the quarterback you don't. The quarterback is not a 380 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: little special category where you're putting asterisk and say, well 381 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: sometimes no, it's that the little special category this draft. 382 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: Um and the defensive players in particular, who are so 383 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: highly respected at the top of it. Is there a 384 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: chance you it to six and all of those real 385 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: stud D player the defensive players are gone? Is there 386 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: a chance they're all gone? Sometimes I say that elite 387 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: you know players just a three, four, six, eight, you know, 388 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: the real Do you see a spot this year where 389 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: there's a drop off? Is it? No? You know, you know, Jordan, 390 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a really good draft. You know, it's 391 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: it's it's not h you know, listen, you know, I 392 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: fully expect if nothing happened, if we don't move, you 393 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: don't move. I sitting at seventh team we've got to 394 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: get a good, really good player. You know it's not 395 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna panic and oh god, you know it's 396 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: gonna be a good player there, Guys. I don't want 397 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: to sound arrogant. You have said last year that hindsight 398 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: you knew san Uan was you're gone wing. Well, if 399 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: not the organization of you personally, do you have your 400 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: guy right now when you're sitting there hoping that he's 401 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: at six, and that's when you're gonna see you that 402 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna finish doing the board. I told you we 403 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: gotta still still scrowing around a little bit. What's that 404 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: I'm not talking to evaluate. I haven't open mind. I 405 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: have an open mind at open mind. Last year, I 406 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: sure did I sure did Any gold jacket guys in 407 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: this draft? Oh yeah, there's a couple. There's a couple. Man. 408 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to put a number on it, but 409 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: there's some guys. I mean, this is this is a 410 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: draft that's been well. Um, belly Hood has that for word, guys, Well, 411 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: Belllyhood about the depth and and and the and the 412 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: volume of players and it's legit. What do you think 413 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: of the quarterback class this year? It's good it's a 414 00:24:53,080 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: good quarterback class. Yeah, what's that? Yeah? Kinda like my head, 415 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: better than last year? What's that better than last year? 416 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm not going there. Come on now, put it this way. 417 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 1: Course always says you draft quarterbacks to win super bowls? 418 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: Any quarterbacks in this class who you think are super 419 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: bowl caliber guys that you can win titles with? There's 420 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: a couple of there's some really good quarterbacks in this draft. Yes, 421 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: how would you knowing any lies cupposed to a fording 422 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: in ye? How would you characterize the level of urgency 423 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: to land a franchise quarterback? Now, Steve, you know what 424 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this. If you if if you 425 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: put a lot of pressure on it, you're gonna make 426 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: a mistake. So if you're asking me how urgent do 427 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: I feel that we need to do this, I'm not 428 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: going to put a level on that, Steve, I'm not. 429 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen. You know, doing this you let the 430 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: draft come to you, and that's that's what you do, 431 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 1: you know, And and and I feel I'm so you know, 432 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: I feel, um, I'm the word I'm looking for. You know, 433 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: we went into last season believing that he liked still 434 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: had plenty left and he proved he dead. So you know, 435 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: just see how it goes. See how the draft? How 436 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: the draft? About the Kansas City model? What's that? Well, 437 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, and you know I I said the Kansas 438 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: City model. People have been doing it for years. It's 439 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: just the most recent one. How about the Green Bay model? 440 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: You know Aaron Rodgers fallen to him all I had 441 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: Brett five, you know that. You know he sat for 442 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: two and a half years. I think of three years. 443 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: You know, that's that's what you'd like to do. Listen, 444 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: Eli is a prose pro and you guys know that. Okay, 445 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: he is a prose pro. And to get a quarter 446 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: back in here and to allow him to learn behind 447 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: learned at the feet, it would be it would be 448 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: a sweet deal. Kyle's working on that right now. And 449 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: don't forget about Kyle now. He's working on that right now. 450 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, yes, yes, you'd you'd like 451 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: you you'd prefer to that to be the situation. You'd 452 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 1: hate to throw a guy in, take a young kid 453 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: and just throw him and throw him and it's not easy. 454 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: You continue to construct this team. Do you feel that 455 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: you can win now and still win in the future. 456 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: Do you feel your you have the ability this year 457 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: to to start them? You know again, I just you know, 458 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: we won two more games, and we did than the 459 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: team did the year before, and you had all those 460 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: games with you know that we lost by a point 461 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: two points. I mean, you know, we lost eight games 462 00:27:54,160 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: by a touchdown a less. You know, so the NFL 463 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: is tight, tight, tight, and a few more players get 464 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: you over the top, and now you're winning more more games, right, 465 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: So yes, you know, on a lot of the small 466 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: college guys, what do you have to see on film 467 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: that kind of stands out to you? Because that's probably 468 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: the tougher thing to do is bind that guy and 469 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: judge whether or not he can play up to this level. Well, 470 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: the biggest thing you have to do is, you know, 471 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: so a million years ago, I'm scouting and I'm at 472 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: Cutstown State and I'm looking at John Mobley and you 473 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: know word, you know the this is like in October. 474 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: I finally get there and all the scouts there, Hey 475 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: have you been to cuts down of human? It cuts 476 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: down and started in August, and I finally said, this 477 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: guy's superman. You know what do we got here? So 478 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: I went to you know, I went and I watched 479 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: John play and the bottom line is, so I'm in Cutstown, 480 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: so that the closest Division one school was ben State. 481 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: So you have to ask yourself the question. I said, 482 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: tell the scouts this all the time. Remind them if 483 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm watching John Mobili, can I picture him starting at 484 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: Penn State? That that's the litmus test. And you know, 485 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: so when I when scouts talk about, you know, a 486 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: Division to one, double, A two, three, that's that's the 487 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: litmus test. Well, he stopped at you know, the close 488 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: a big Division one program, and they all go to 489 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: Division one program, so they should be able to answer 490 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: that question. When you said earlier about part of it, 491 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: you can let the draft come to you. I would 492 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: imagine that means not necessarily not be aggressive when you 493 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: need to be aggressive and draft right. It's not like 494 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: you're not gonna sit in a spot because you don't 495 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: feel urgency. But if you see something, you know, look 496 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: at my history. I've traded up a number of times 497 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: down to Carolina. You know, last year we just you know, 498 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: I kind of had to sit. We only had only 499 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: had the five picks and I and I was not 500 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: going to trade I was not going to take picks 501 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: from this year's draft to move up in last year's draft. 502 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm gonna We're gonna do what we 503 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: need to, you know. So so are you asking me, 504 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: am I gonna move around the bullet It's very possible. 505 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: But in terms of the answer to the urgency, you said, 506 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna let things come to come to us. I 507 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: just wanted to get clarification the idea that you weren't 508 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: saying you were just gonna sit there with all your 509 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: picks and wait for guys to fall if the situation 510 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: or if the situation calls for it. There's a guy 511 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: there that you know, we we feel can really help us, 512 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: and it's a few picks in front, and we're not coming. 513 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: You know, we've we're not comfortable with the teams in 514 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: front that he'll follow us if we feel if we have, 515 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: you know, if we feel the need, will make the move. 516 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to do that because remember we got twelve. 517 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: This is crazy, though, and you said the first four 518 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: round are kind of loaded, right, more than you've ever seen. 519 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: So would you would your preference be to move some 520 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: of those because you have a lot of picks at 521 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: the back, move some of those and get more picks 522 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: in those first four. You may Jordan's it's possible. Anything 523 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: is possible from next year's draft, this year, it last 524 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: year to this year? Will you do it this year 525 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: to next year? Maybe? Da you mentioned whines before, did 526 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: you mean wide receiver? As far as I'm yeah, when 527 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: I say what wides? Right, if you just say what more? 528 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: How does the dynamic change when you have to first 529 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: round pick? I don't even know if it's fun. I'm 530 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: excited about it. No, it's really weird, um, because it 531 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: means that after you take that first picky, you can't 532 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: get dinner. Ah, No, it's it's it's you know, it's 533 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: it's I'm excited about it, you know because honestly, now 534 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, you turn around and that means you've got 535 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: to guys. You're gonna draft two guys that you'll have 536 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: for five years, which is really you know, I mean, 537 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: really big help in this day and age with the camp. 538 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm excited about it. And you know, 539 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: there's so many possibilities that it gives you so many 540 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: options that you know, I'm looking forward to Thursday, a 541 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: week from today,