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Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rap An iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hello Everybody Happy Thursday, Thursday, Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Wait, I didn't say we're scrubbing it.

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Speaker 4: We're scrubbing in, Yes we are.

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Speaker 3: We have a very exciting guest today. She is a

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Speaker 3: platinum singers.

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Speaker 4: Just gonna go right into it like that.

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Speaker 3: I don't have to.

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Speaker 4: No, it's fine, I'm ready for it.

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Speaker 3: By the way, we're recording this on a Thursday, which

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Speaker 3: is kind of exciting, a rare.

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Speaker 4: Ty tis a Thursday today?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, air next Thursday.

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Speaker 4: How do improve it to?

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Speaker 2: Oh h, A cruel Summer remix came out last night.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't know that if we recorded this.

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Speaker 1: No, I was gonna say, I've been listening to a

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Speaker 1: lot of Michelle Branch this week.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, the show. Yeah, it was incredible. You

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Speaker 3: guys like so legendary to every song. Although she didn't

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Speaker 3: sing me Set Me Free, which is one of my favorite.

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Speaker 4: Well, did she sing Hotel Paper?

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Speaker 3: No? Oh, I don't think so ridiculously if I know

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Speaker 3: that one.

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Speaker 4: But she's right most lyon hotel.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get I'm gonna go with a Now you.

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Speaker 4: Would like that one? I don't make you listen to

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Speaker 4: that again.

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Speaker 3: Well, anyways, today isn't about Michelle Branch It's it is

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Speaker 3: about a platinum singer, songwriter, producer, and multi instrumentalists.

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Speaker 1: She just released her brand new album Stelaria on October thirteenth, and.

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Speaker 3: Since twenty seventeen, she has captivated all of us with

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Speaker 3: acclaimed albums How to Be Human and When I Close

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Speaker 3: my Eyes.

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Speaker 1: Please help us give a warm welcome to Chelsea Cutler.

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Speaker 3: All right, Chelsea, it has been we as soon as

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Speaker 3: we have. You said it's been a long time coming. No,

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Speaker 3: it's like we've been connected from a distance for a

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Speaker 3: long time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you said you had a story and

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Speaker 1: so about you about me?

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Speaker 4: Yes, so I'm stressed, but we're ready for it.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, so I hope it's like not like it's

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Speaker 2: not whatever. I feel like I'm setting the bar.

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Speaker 3: Too high, you know.

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Speaker 2: It's people do like set the bar so high for

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Speaker 2: a story and then you hear it like that wasn't

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Speaker 2: worth the hype. No, No, it's just okay. So I

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Speaker 2: had ordered your book and I went and then like randomly,

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Speaker 2: a few days after I got invited to go to

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Speaker 2: this like mental health panel that Raquel.

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Speaker 4: Was at oh in New York.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so we got so we got introduced, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, really awkward meeting like famous people. I don't

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Speaker 2: know why, Like I just always say the worst things.

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Speaker 2: And so I got introduced and and you know, the

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Speaker 2: art Like the friend who's introducing us was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Chelsea's an artist, and I go, yeah, not famous like

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Speaker 2: your friend. But still, dude, it couldn't have been worse.

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Speaker 2: It could not have been worse. It was so award.

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Speaker 2: She's agreed, agreed, that's great.

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Speaker 3: She's all, what friend are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: Actually, it was like I got it quite the list.

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Speaker 4: It was so and then it's so funny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then so like my dad like includes he

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Speaker 2: like met Chelsea Clinton in a couple of times and

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Speaker 2: like includes her on like emails for like investment rounds,

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Speaker 2: and like she was at the same event and we

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Speaker 2: to me. I go, I'm so sorry about my dad.

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Speaker 2: That's all It's like I got. I'm not like, hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm Chelsea Color, this is amazing. I'm like, I'm just

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Speaker 3: I apologized for my dad.

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Speaker 4: What Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, that's very sweet that you ordered

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Speaker 1: the book. I appreciate that so much that it is

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Speaker 1: like so nice. Second of all, I feel like you

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Speaker 1: in certain ways, I was thinking the same thing. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I've become so awkward in situations like last night, I

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Speaker 1: then there was people across the way that I knew.

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Speaker 1: There's three girls at the table, and I only knew

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Speaker 4: I walk over.

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say hi, and then because I

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Speaker 1: asking my question. So I was there for like ten minutes. Right,

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Speaker 1: So we're leaving and my fiance was like, who was

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Speaker 1: don't know. It goes you didn't introduce yourself to her.

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Speaker 1: I was like no, So then I started spiraling like a.

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Speaker 3: Long time, long time.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, why did I not

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Speaker 4: So I was like, why did I introduce myself to

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Speaker 1: And I started like spiraling for a good ten minutes

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Speaker 1: on the drive home of like how rude I am,

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Speaker 1: and like how this girl is going to think I'm

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Speaker 1: rude forever, and how I can not make her think.

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Speaker 2: I'm didn't introduce herself either.

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Speaker 4: That That's what I came back to.

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Speaker 3: Even more weird, Her friends did, no one, No one

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Speaker 3: facilitated the in and everyone was rude. You're actually all

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Speaker 3: of you are rude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're you're actually I think the least accountable,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was, so I was spiraling in the car.

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Speaker 4: But it's so funny because I'm like, when did I

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Speaker 2: She's the least accountable, You're second least accountable, and then

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Speaker 3: Account of the two people who knew each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyways, I'm right there with you, Chelsea, and

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Speaker 2: I know what it's like to be her too, when

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been to her, I have been her.

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Speaker 3: Well, I so, Haley, she will be like when we

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Speaker 3: first started dating, she wouldn't really be the one to

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Speaker 3: like that's so nice.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to be that girl from now on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's all make a point after this podcast to

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I honestly have a huge fear of introducing people

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Speaker 2: to like blank on someone's name or when I've.

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Speaker 1: Already met them and they're like, nice to meet you,

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Speaker 2: It's not even that like I'm actually pretty excellent now,

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Speaker 2: just being like, hey, it's awesome to see you again,

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Speaker 2: I think it's more like, let's say we we just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, this is how you do it. I have

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Speaker 3: this is I know this person, this is Tanya. And

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Speaker 3: then I hope that the other person goes the name yes,

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Speaker 2: Exactly. It's all that accountability.

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Speaker 3: You have a really great story, and you're with your relationship.

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Speaker 3: I've just seen clips of some other interviews you've done,

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Speaker 2: When y'all met, I haven't talked about it, honestly, Like

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Speaker 2: we've We've always been like pretty public in terms of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because y'all met, you were young, origins.

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Speaker 2: The origins, the origin story.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel comfortable sharing the Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 2: I think we've both gotten more comfortable with it too,

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Speaker 2: because it's kind of funny. She came with a mutual

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Speaker 2: I think she was I think she's a little swasty

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Speaker 2: and just kept telling her friend like, I think Chelsea's hot.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that means like a traction.

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Speaker 2: And so my friend knew that we had a few

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Speaker 2: Like could I get her number, her snapchat or something

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Speaker 4: This is something new I've never heard of. And wow,

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Speaker 4: okay we went very analog.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, literally what I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I thought I was thinking like stamp like no, like

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Speaker 3: This really for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those are for letters.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It's fine, We're good.

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Speaker 3: Everything's great.

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Speaker 2: I'm basically just I didn't really know how to gauge

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you write the most beautiful songs, your lyrics, Like

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Speaker 4: That's great. You're like twenty six, you know, like, what

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Speaker 3: No, I think you're I think when you meet someone,

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Speaker 4: Like we bicker?

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Speaker 3: But I wouldn't say we argue, not like a fight

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Speaker 2: You know that I relate to that a lot, like, well,

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Speaker 4: Again, what's your sign aquarium? And what's her sign aries? Interesting?

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Speaker 3: When's your birthday?

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Speaker 4: Have anything to give you something, I have nothing for

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Speaker 3: It's a it's like rolling the dice. If it's something

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Speaker 4: I know something about aquariuses. Tell me if this is true.

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Speaker 4: Do you not like being loane? Like alone?

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Speaker 2: Won't do anything alone? Thank you. If you told me

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, so all you need is company. It doesn't

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Speaker 4: I feel like the tranquility the world is real.

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Speaker 3: What I was gonna say is that Haley and I

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Speaker 3: You don't know what that means. That means you're just

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Speaker 4: We'll sett all this when you're back.

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Speaker 3: It's like a whole thing.

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Speaker 3: We were just having an argument.

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Speaker 1: I was like, we're breaking up.

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Speaker 4: We're breaking up.

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Speaker 1: If we don't sell this tonight, we're breaking up, right.

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Speaker 1: He was like, I just want to go to bed

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Speaker 2: People who can sleep peacefully amidst an argument are just

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Speaker 1: Right, It's like, I can't tell if you're secure and

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Speaker 2: So voud, Like that's her.

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Speaker 3: She can sleep through. She can sleep.

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Speaker 2: But even so, we broke up really briefly in the

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Speaker 2: you going to sleep? That's psychotic. I'm gonna lay here

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Speaker 2: It makes no sense. And you were me she was secure,

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Speaker 2: I guess in the breakup and she was very peaceful.

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Speaker 3: I think that's just like a different Like sometimes when

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you would be a tough argue, I feel.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough. Bless his heart.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's fascinating talking to someone who's on the

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Speaker 2: don't know. But but yeah, it's really nice. And she's

443
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:37,400
Speaker 2: so exceptionally creative outside of that, and so we're we're

444
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 2: really compatible in that way, which is cool.

445
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 3: But because does she do like video like like does

446
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 3: she do creative stuff in like the video space? She

447
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:46,880
Speaker 3: just for fun?

448
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, just for fun. Yeah, she bought us Super eight

449
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 2: this summer just for fun and made that video for

450
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 2: fun which was awesome. Yeah.

451
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 5: Cool.

452
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's fun. Like you have your separation and

453
00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 3: like your jobs, but then your her hobby aligns.

454
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 2: Are the same, except she really likes yoga and I

455
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 2: would rather crown to the ball and cry than go

456
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 2: to yoga. But yeah, all of our hobbies are the same,

457
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 2: like we really like all of the same things, outside

458
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 2: of the fact that she enjoys financial markets and I

459
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 2: don't unless they're making me money.

460
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 3: Like I don't, I don't know, you know, yeah, yeah,

461
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 3: did you so when you were writing this album, which

462
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 3: is amazing, by the way, I have to say that

463
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 3: I guess it's called the bridge. I don't know. I

464
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 3: always say like, oh, the bridge of that song, but

465
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 3: I have no idea what I'm talking.

466
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 4: About, but either now that you mention it, growing up

467
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 4: is hard.

468
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 3: No, you're right, that's a bridge, right, Yeah it is.

469
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 3: I just kept listening to the song on repeat just

470
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 3: to hear that bridge, like it is so incredible, Like

471
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 3: you're such an incredible songwriter. That's so nice. And when

472
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 3: you put out a snippet of the bones, which is

473
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 3: I would say, like it's having a moment. It's had

474
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 3: a moment on TikTok, it's like on every love story.

475
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 3: What do you call those montage videos? So easy to

476
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 3: make those with that song. But I did it in

477
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 3: January at the very beginning of you.

478
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 2: We're so excited. I was so excited when I saw that.

479
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 3: But did you know that you were gonna like finish

480
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 3: that song? And really, like, was that always gonna happen?

481
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: Honestly? I think so. I had to grow, like the

482
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 2: song had to grow on me, for sure, and I

483
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 2: not for any reason other than it took me a

484
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 2: while to understand that writing about love is equally as

485
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 2: vulnerable and important as writing about everything else. And I

486
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 2: kind of felt like because I wrote it about love,

487
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 2: maybe I didn't have to dig as deep or be

488
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 2: as vulnerable. And I really wanted to be vulnerable on

489
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: this record. And it took Yeah, it just took me

490
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 2: a while to kind of recognize and respect that writing

491
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 2: about my love is really important.

492
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, you mean, like not like writing about something

493
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 3: that's happy and healthy and like beautiful is just as

494
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 3: vulnerable is writing about like drawing from heartache or a

495
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 3: heart break.

496
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like because it was so easy to

497
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 2: write that it must not have been a challenging thing

498
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 2: for me, or not even challenging. But I wanted this

499
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: record to feel really raw, and I kept conflating vulnerability

500
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: with like a struggle, like pulling teeth and like getting

501
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 2: right gritty, you know, And it doesn't have to be

502
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 2: that way in it. And so the label everyone loved

503
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 2: the song. My team, the label loved the song. And

504
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: it took me a year to put it out.

505
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 3: I know, I waited. I know, I was like, oh,

506
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 3: I guess that was a team that will never see

507
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god, we were.

508
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: So excited when we saw that. You guys use it

509
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: because we never met until today. So yeah, I was,

510
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's such a fan of you both and

511
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 2: and so and obviously of you. I've had your book

512
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: for like a year orright since it came out.

513
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind yeah, so.

514
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: We were so stoked.

515
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: No, I I love it. And then when it like

516
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 3: had when it when you felt like it went because

517
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 3: you've been writing music, Like first of all, one of

518
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 3: my other favorite songs he wrote is Crazier Thanks, and

519
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 3: you wrote with Noah Klan. You did a version with

520
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 3: Noah Klon before he had his like totally blow up.

521
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 3: And I was telling Hanna the other day, I was like,

522
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 3: I went I listened to that song. It was on

523
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 3: every playlist I had, like every playlist. I think that

524
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 3: song is on there, and I never really put it

525
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 3: together that it was Noah and I was listening to

526
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: it the other day. I was listening to one of

527
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 3: my old like fall playlists, and I was like, oh

528
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 3: my gosh, I did even realize that was Noah. That's

529
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 3: awesome cool, but y'all had that moment.

530
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: I know, no it's really special and he definitely made

531
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 2: made the song even even better than what it was.

532
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. I love the original too. I need

533
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 3: to but no, go ahead, no, go you go ahead,

534
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 3: because I'm trying to find I need to. There's a

535
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 3: lyric in the bridge to Growing Up as Hard and.

536
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 4: Pays the word bridge now for like ever?

537
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 3: Now?

538
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 4: Was she be like, yeah, the bridge to that song?

539
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am.

540
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: It doesn't happen when you learn a big word. Yeah,

541
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 2: I mean in whatever. I keep seeing the word silacious

542
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: and I don't know what it means.

543
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: It's not like sandalis, like, isn't salacious?

544
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 5: Kind of like, oh, it's meious salacious, I'm disenchanted.

545
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 2: Oh I like that.

546
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 4: I know, good one right?

547
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 3: What is?

548
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: It just means off? Put? Yeah?

549
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 4: Something, yeah, like turned off. I guess what I was

550
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 4: going to ask you was your writing process, Like.

551
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: Do you do a certain thing? Do you have a

552
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: certain thing, Like do you go in knowing you're gonna

553
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: write something? Or do you just do it as it comes?

554
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: As it comes? I think, honestly, the best part about

555
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 2: being an artist is that whenever you go into the studio,

556
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: you have no idea what's going to happen, and something

557
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: exists by seven pm that didn't exist at twelve pm

558
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: in the world.

559
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 4: You know, I think about that too.

560
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: It blows my mind, Like I think that too, and

561
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 2: it's like you it's such a you can't even conceptualize

562
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: something that doesn't exist yet. So to go into the

563
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: studio with a you know, a preconception of what you

564
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: want to make to me doesn't make any sense. Like

565
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: I want to just go in there and talk and

566
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: have organic conversations and jam and see just what comes

567
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: out of us that because creativity really is like I

568
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: know it's cliche and people say it all the time,

569
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: and you know, Chris Martin has said he's he's just

570
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: a conduit. But I really feel like creativity is that

571
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: just comes out of you, like you know, yeah, I

572
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 2: don't feel in control of it. Do you ever have

573
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: I take but I do take credit.

574
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 3: Do you ever have a moment that, like you just said,

575
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 3: you look you can't hearing the word sallacious? Like do

576
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 3: you have a moment where you come up with the

577
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: word and you're like, that'd be so good in a lyric,

578
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 3: Like I'm going to try and like work that in

579
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 3: somehow do you ever do that?

580
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 2: If is it a real word? Like if I hear

581
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: a real word? Or are you saying like a made

582
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 2: up word?

583
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 3: I get I was thinking a real word.

584
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes I.

585
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: Don't know. I don't know.

586
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm I just mumble like melodies and a random

587
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 2: word will pop into that melody and I'll kind of say, like, oh,

588
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: that sounds nice, but it doesn't make sense with anything.

589
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

590
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 3: Writing is weird. I don't know. It's such a gift

591
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: because I know Tany and I would both love to

592
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 3: be writer. She would argue that she is a writer.

593
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 4: Writer, thank you so much. I wrote a song when

594
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 4: I went through my horrible.

595
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: You're an author, Well, she is an author, but she's

596
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: a writer.

597
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 4: I am an author.

598
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: But I do find it so therapeutic, like I do

599
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: think in my in like an alternate life, I was

600
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: a songwriter because I feel so deeply, like I connect

601
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: to music so deeply and it's such a it's so

602
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: cool that that's like an outlet, you know, Like I

603
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe you might be this person, but like

604
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: if you're going through heartbreak, do you like look in

605
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: the mirror and like watch yourself cry?

606
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 3: No, no, this is not a thing that's normal, by

607
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: the way. I mean, I think some people do it,

608
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 3: but like this is that's so.

609
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: Normal, and I'm valuing you right now, You've never done that.

610
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 4: I feel like it's a songwriter you would like Hayley

611
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 4: does this. Yeah, for sure, she does.

612
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: I can't recall that being a thing for me.

613
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: Okay, So let's say you're crying over heartbreak. Have you

614
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: ever like driven in your car and pretended like you

615
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: were in a music video?

616
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

617
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: That feels more standard.

618
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, totally, that feels standard.

619
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tanya, you're gonna love this. What I'm gonna sing,

620
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna sing. I'm gonna say the bridge to

621
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: the song this is about your Is this about college?

622
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: It was kind of It was kind of just a

623
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: you know, a compilation in my brain of experiences college

624
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 2: and even post college. I think in your early twenties

625
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: there's a lot going on that you kind of subscribe

626
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: to that.

627
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 3: Looking back, you're like, yeah, it's like, did I I

628
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 3: really want to try that or do what I did? Well?

629
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 3: I think the whole the song is like growing up

630
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: is hard, and yet that person that you're long that

631
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: you're talking about that made it hard is still this

632
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: part of you that like will always be with you.

633
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: Totally. I think we're learning as we go what our

634
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: preferences really are and what we like doing and how

635
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: we like spending our time.

636
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 3: And that seems to never stop. No, you'll like this

637
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 3: on it. You drink yourself. It's gonna it's so good

638
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: when you're singing it.

639
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 4: Do you want to sing?

640
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: I know, out loud, it's so embarrassing.

641
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 3: I can't sing it, but.

642
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you go.

643
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 3: No, just kidd it says you drink yourself dizzy, held

644
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: in all your secrets, took off running naked with a

645
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 3: handle on your arm, woke up in a fever, sweating

646
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 3: out your bad decisions, couldn't even see straight, but you

647
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: still got in the car. You tried to be the

648
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: cool girl. You just want, you know, the way that

649
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: boys are. You just want to talk. But it's your

650
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 3: body that he counts. Crazy.

651
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: Wow, I did streak across the quad of my college.

652
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: That's real.

653
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: Wow.

654
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah they have video footage? Has that been released? Oh

655
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: you want that?

656
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure on someone's snapchat, snapchat snapchat. I'm sure bad

657
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: in someone's stamp pad memories.

658
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: It's so true though, those like nights that you have

659
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: a little too much to drink and you just like

660
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: do things and you wake up and you're like, why

661
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: did I do that.

662
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I hate. I really hated that feeling in

663
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 4: my twenties and I had it a lot.

664
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't really drink too much anymore, honestly, nice

665
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: because mostly because the hangovers are are terrible, horrible, Yeah,

666
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: so bad, and I'm on multi multiple antidepressants, so it

667
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 2: just exacerbating the hangover. Yeah. But I also kind of

668
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: feel like, whenever I'm around drunk people, I'm mortified for them,

669
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: and I don't want to be that person. I know

670
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: that sounds so arrogant, but.

671
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 4: Does how That's how I feel about drugs.

672
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll see people on drugs and I'm like, why

673
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: would I ever want to try that? Because this person

674
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: looks like a looney tune right now.

675
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: Totally, I think anything moderation is great, have a couple drinks,

676
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: loosen up, you know, do a little shrewmies, if you

677
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: want to take you know, st joint amazing, All those

678
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: things are great in moderation when you're you know, in

679
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: control and feel like yourself. And then I think when

680
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: you exceed then then you know again it's I don't know,

681
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: it's kind of uncomfortable for everyone.

682
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

683
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you have you talked about like because when

684
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 3: you had the moment of realizing like, oh, I'm also

685
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: attracted to women, was it like did you experience fear?

686
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: Like what what was the emotion going through that?

687
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: I think it took me a really long time to

688
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: come to any place of peace with it, And I

689
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: honestly think that's still in process for me, like in progress,

690
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: because I don't know, like battling your own inner homophobia

691
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: is takes years, I think to unlearn all of that stuff,

692
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: and especially you know, we've been living together for a

693
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: bet now and you know, talking about what those next

694
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: steps are, and I definitely notice inklings in me coming

695
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: up of like are.

696
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 3: You gonna like marry a girl?

697
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: That's crazy?

698
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: Like that's that's so nuts, And.

699
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: So I think it's it's like ongoing, but I think

700
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: those initial feelings were definitely it definitely was like like God,

701
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: why me, Like couldn't you have given this to someone else?

702
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: And I was like, I guess my life's good, like

703
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: come from you know, a nice family and I get

704
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: to go to private school, so like, obviously something has

705
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: to be wrong with me. That those were like the

706
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: thoughts that I had when I was like sixteen seventeen,

707
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: so crazy though, Yeah, how I I mean, I didn't

708
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: tell my parents until Tilly and I started dating, and

709
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: I didn't really tell a lot of friends honestly either,

710
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: So I don't know what about you.

711
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree with the like inner homophobia, like

712
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 3: the thoughts, because I don't really recognize them until like

713
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: hearing you say that, because I've had moments like when

714
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: people would ask, like early on in mine and Healy's relationship, like, oh,

715
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: are you all going to get married? Like my instant

716
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 3: reaction was like, oh, yeah, I don't know. We're just

717
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: taking it slow because in my mind, I'm like, wait,

718
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: am I going to marry a girl? Like that was

719
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 3: never what Oh I.

720
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: Prefaced telling my parents about Tilly by saying, don't worry,

721
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: I'm going to marry a guy. I just want to

722
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: experience this.

723
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: Wow.

724
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I totally understand that experience.

725
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 3: But I think so many people have these thoughts and

726
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: they don't realize that that is like so based on

727
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 3: internalized homophobia, like the idea of like you can't marry

728
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: a woman, or you can't have happiness, or you can't

729
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: have the things that you could have if you just

730
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 3: married a man. Yeah, and I think that the more

731
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 3: people are talking about it and opening up and sharing

732
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: their relationship and normalizing it, it's giving people the I

733
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 3: mean you kids now, like you see these videos where

734
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 3: they talk so openly about being attracted to whoever they're

735
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 3: attracted to, like there's no hesitation in it, and I'm like,

736
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 3: I think that's just going to come with like comfortability

737
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: and you know, as the generation's go on. But I

738
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 3: when I met Haley, it was so instant that I

739
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: didn't have a panic. I was just like, oh, this

740
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 3: is what everyone talked about, because everyone would talk about

741
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 3: falling in love and I'm like, I haven't experienced it,

742
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 3: and people. I remember when I was on the Bachelor,

743
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: the producer who was like, are you in love? And

744
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: I was like, get like laughing to myself, like I've

745
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: spent maybe forty eight hours with this man total, and

746
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: you're asking questions for you. But it was so funny

747
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: because he was like, well, how do you know that

748
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 3: you're not in love if you've never been in love?

749
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, if this is love that everyone

750
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: raves about, this is very underwhelming, you know. So when

751
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 3: I met Hailey, I felt that so instantly and it

752
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: happened so fast, and I didn't have to question it.

753
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: I didn't question if she liked me or if I

754
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 3: liked her. It was just like happened. So I never

755
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: had that like panicked feeling. How did you guys meet

756
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 3: at her album release party for her first album Okay,

757
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 3: and I actually tried to set her up with my

758
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: younger sister and that didn't happen.

759
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 4: So I tried to set her up.

760
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 3: I did, but everyone bailed.

761
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: So I didn't.

762
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 3: Everyone. But anyways, yeah, I definitely you go through that

763
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: like that thing with your head of like is this

764
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 3: just am I just experiencing this for the first time

765
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna end up with the man that my

766
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 3: parents expected me to end up with, you know, totally,

767
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: but then you you I'm I was literally this happened

768
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 3: last night. I was Haley was just talking to me,

769
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: and I was just sitting there listening to her talk,

770
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 3: and I was like, it's so nice to feel so

771
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: like comfortable and safe in a relationship. We're like we're

772
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 3: just talking and like it's so easy and there's no

773
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: I don't feel any pressure to be on It's just

774
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 3: like relaxed and that's safe.

775
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: That's so sweet.

776
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's cool. But yeah, we can have a

777
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 3: whole discussion about the Bachelor. I don't know.

778
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, do you know John Bresh who was

779
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: just on.

780
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 3: No, I don't know, like what season Charity.

781
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was just on Charity season. I told him

782
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 2: we we just met and we've apparently we've met in

783
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: person before before he was on the Bachelor, but we

784
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: met in person again now with me like having seen

785
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,479
Speaker 2: him on TV, and I was like, so, we're gonna

786
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 2: get drinks, right, and we're gonna push your NDA tos so,

787
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: but he's gonna adhere to his NDA. Don't worry John

788
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: Bresh Bresh, Oh my gosh, she's so cute.

789
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: He's adorable. Isn't he on Paradise?

790
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going on Paradise to night. I think she's

791
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 2: so cute.

792
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: I'm actually watching.

793
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: He's the sweetest person ever.

794
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 3: Did y'all meet that the New York or the US Open?

795
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: He actually came to our pop up store that we

796
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: did around the album this past weekend. Yeah, he came

797
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: by himself, waited in line. Yeah, he was so so

798
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: sweet cute. Yeah.

799
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 3: Also, I wanted to ask you about when you surprised

800
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 3: the couple on their wedding day to sing your bones.

801
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 3: What was the process like how that happened?

802
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: So essentially, my manager had that idea and it was

803
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: kind of just a matter of finding the right couple

804
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: to do it for. And so the bride Jesse had

805
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 2: DMed me and I never even answered it or anything.

806
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: I just took a screenshot of it because the wedding

807
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: was in New Jersey and it was on a day

808
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: that we knew I had off, and so I just

809
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: sent it to my team and they did insane detective

810
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: work getting connected with her family and we set everything

811
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 2: up and and we did it, and yeah, it was

812
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: you guys really were sleuths. Yeah we had a connection.

813
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah accent that knew her, that knew a friend and

814
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: knew her hometown friend.

815
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: Wowly two hours wow.

816
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: So basically as she was saying that they have a

817
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: friend that knew a friend, that knew a friend that

818
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 1: knew a friend, Yeah, it connected them to the family.

819
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 3: It ran deep.

820
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we got connected. Yeah, it was amazing.

821
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: That's so fun.

822
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were they were so blown.

823
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 3: With I just always think like, how cool to have

824
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 3: an artist that you love come and be a part

825
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: of your biggest day. Because the thing is.

826
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: That on the day we were hiding out in my

827
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: car because we were obviously trying not to be seen,

828
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 2: and I went back in the dms to try to

829
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 2: find her original DM and realized that she had gone

830
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: on over the course of a few months and sent

831
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 2: a million other dms, being like, at least is there

832
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 2: an acoustic version of the song that we can dance to.

833
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: We had a song set for years that was going

834
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: to be our first dance and now we just changed

835
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: it to bones because we need it to be your

836
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: bones and it's hilarious. I wanted to DM or so

837
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: bad and be like just seeing this now, have an

838
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: amazing night, congratulations, like maybe next time, and then showed

839
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 2: up to me, but we were like, she's probably in

840
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 2: her ceremony right now, so she's not gonna see this.

841
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: But it was just amazing that she sent like fourteen dms. Yeah,

842
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: she put in the world, kind of putting her arm,

843
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: blowing up her spot right DM so many times, but

844
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: she's she's so kind and the whole wedding was beautiful

845
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: and it was amazing.

846
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 3: Well, these were like dream collab.

847
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: That's such a good question. Coincidentally, I don't know if

848
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: we ever ended up reaching out, but we wanted to

849
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 2: ask Hayley to direct the video for this album. Well,

850
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: this is just y'all just writing a song together.

851
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 3: Is my dream.

852
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 2: I mean, we love that connect to the dots, but

853
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 2: that was that was an idea that we had recently

854
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 2: around the album that we thought was really cool. So

855
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: here's me shooting the shot. Honestly, But I'm trying to

856
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 2: think who's an artist that. I mean, Annie Vera would

857
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 2: be really really cool. You know Sam Fender I've been

858
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: listening to NonStop Flume would be weird cool. I think, yeah,

859
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: I know so many I would love to work with

860
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: so many people.

861
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: What does the future hold for you? Chelsea Color? Like

862
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: if you look you know I actually I hate when

863
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: people ask me that question, So I'm not.

864
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: Gonna I'm not gonna, as I say, my therapist would say, like,

865
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: don't don't do that.

866
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm trying to say is what are

867
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: some of your dreams or some things that are going

868
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: to be coming up for you, maybe that you already

869
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: have planned like in the future that you can talk about.

870
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: Well, we just announced tour today. No it's all good.

871
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: We just announced tour today, yeah, which is really exciting. Yeah,

872
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 2: and yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think getting

873
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: to just wake up and do this every day is

874
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: blessing and every day is a climb, and you know,

875
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: some days feel more uh productive maybe than others. And yeah,

876
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: I think I'm just trying to focus on having fun

877
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: because this industry can feel like a washing machine, you know,

878
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: washing machine.

879
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 3: You know, like your soul sucking. Yeah, yeah, or dryer.

880
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, it feels like it feels like one

881
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: of those cycles. Yes, I do say hamster wheel all

882
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 2: the time talking about it, and yeah, just I'm trying

883
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: to enjoy the positives of being on the hamster wheel,

884
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: you know.

885
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of exercise, a lot of exercise.

886
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, you look good, never bored, never bored. So yeah,

887
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just trying to take a day

888
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: by day. No, it's such a boring answer, but.

889
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 3: No, I think that's such a great answer. And I

890
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: also hate when someone's like, so, what is your five

891
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 3: year plan? I'm like, I'm just trying to make it

892
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 3: through the week.

893
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: Also, nothing that you say right now will probably happen

894
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 2: because you just can't. You just can't even have them?

895
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: Right?

896
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: What's gonna? Like? Did I know that I'd be in

897
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 2: a five year relationship with a girl? No? You know,

898
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: did I know that I was gonna? I don't know,

899
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: like anything, did I know that? You know? I like

900
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: buy a home in New York City? Like no, if

901
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 2: you asked me that five years before. So like anything

902
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: that I would say now like probably the opposite is

903
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: gonna happen.

904
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, so true.

905
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 3: We we have people send us clips from our old podcast,

906
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: and it is like comical listening to how we not

907
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: so much? Tanya, she kind of was like pretty days

908
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: for herself. I liked that for you they were nice.

909
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: Do you guys remember episode fifteen minute thirty five when

910
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: Tanya said she'd be open to marrying a man with kids.

911
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: And I was like, wow, is that happening? Yeah, I'm

912
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: literally marrying a man with two kids one year rings beautiful?

913
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 2: How old are the kids?

914
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 4: Eleven and nine?

915
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness is that crazy?

916
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: So happy?

917
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 4: Totally Yeah? I like called it.

918
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: Though. Here I go. Do you do you feel how

919
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: is your how is your relationship to becoming a step parent?

920
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting. I don't think of myself. I

921
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 4: guess I am.

922
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: I'm going to be a step parent, but I don't

923
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: think of myself as self as a stepparent, you know,

924
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,959
Speaker 1: because my fiance is very much hands on like dad,

925
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: and so I feel like I'm just their friend.

926
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 4: So I feel like when we have.

927
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: Them, we are just a family and we're hanging out

928
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: and we're having fun. I don't really have to discipline them,

929
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: you know, Like I do tell them to do things

930
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: every once in a while, you know, like pick that

931
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: up or put that away, But like, I'm not Meredith Blake.

932
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 4: I'm not like Meredith Blake vibe. But yeah, it's really

933
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 4: good and they're really good kids, so it's like easy.

934
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. That's that's I feel like that's such

935
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: a cool role to play, Yeah, in someone's life.

936
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I try and treat it as just like

937
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 4: being their friend.

938
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah that's awesome. Yeah, because it could go Meredith Blake style.

939
00:43:54,280 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's an iclone in her own right, Yeah she was. I, however,

940
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 3: was talking about my dream guy and my list of

941
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: qualities and what I needed and blonde and.

942
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 4: Like blonde athlete or something.

943
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: No, that's a what was yours? I didn't really have

944
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 3: like a physical but it was like, you know, all

945
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: the things that h I did not end up with

946
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 3: but couldn't be happier exactly.

947
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just no way to know what is going

948
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 2: to happen for you in five years or ever.

949
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: Funny though, because I was asking the question, I feel

950
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: like as an artist, as a musician, or you know,

951
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: you're coming in and you're talking about, you know, your

952
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: album that you just released, and I feel like musicians

953
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: have this timeline of like I'm going to do a

954
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: tour and then I'm going to do this. I don't

955
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: have a music video, so I feel like people like

956
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: to talk about what they have coming up. But then

957
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: when you take it to the next level of like

958
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: what does the future hold, it's like such a paralyzing

959
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: question because you're like, I don't know.

960
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 4: I hope it holds good things.

961
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I also think us as like listeners, we

962
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: were like give us the muse, We're like to give, give, give,

963
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: and then we want to see you. And like, I

964
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: don't think I just know because of Haley, but knowing

965
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 3: the work that goes into creating an album, writing an album,

966
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 3: putting it out there, the vulnerability it takes to put

967
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 3: your work out there, then going on tour, Planning a tour,

968
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 3: the music video is like seeing how much like thought

969
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 3: process and work goes into that. Like I think we

970
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: hear it and we're like, oh, so you're you put

971
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 3: out your album, You're going on tour. But it's a

972
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 3: lot what y'all do as artists.

973
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:34,479
Speaker 1: Like beyond like mentally, physically, mentally, physically, emotionally, all the things,

974
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: and then being in a relationship.

975
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know if Tilly goes. I'm assuming

976
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 3: she doesn't go with you because she has a real

977
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 3: person she's in grad school.

978
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's in business school and has a yeah, real

979
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: person job. So that's not too many visits on tour.

980
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard, Like you get to go, Yeah, I go.

981
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 3: I go because you know how you were saying, like

982
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 3: we start fighting when we've been together for thirteen to

983
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 3: fourteen days, we start really fighting when we've been apart

984
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 3: for thirteen to fourteen days. I'm like, I'll be on

985
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: the next flight out see you at your next destination.

986
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 3: You in four hours. That's awesome. Well I love you,

987
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 3: I love your music. I'm so happy we got to

988
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 3: meet and have you on the podcast. Solaria is an

989
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 3: art piece.

990
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: Thank you.

991
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 3: It's so beautiful.

992
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: Everybody check it out, stream it, download it, heart it,

993
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: post it, post.

994
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 5: It, post it, stamp, stamp, pat it, TikTok video, all

995
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 5: videos with it and if you please fill Chelsea Cutlors

996
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 5: d MS with love and we just love you.

997
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

998
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: I loves oh great great, Thank you so much, thank you,

999
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: so glad to meet both of you.

1000
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 3: Me too,