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Speaker 1: All right, it's Patriots Unfiltered. It's PP in the deuce edition. Guys.

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Speaker 1: I don't know I have torn because I always like

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Speaker 1: to get our guys. It's just invested in the drop

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Speaker 1: pig that you got on your turn. That's like that thing.

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Speaker 1: I can't mit you up, Bob, but we do it

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Speaker 1: the right way. Other golf depends. And I think he's

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Speaker 1: number forty eight. I've got his name. Sounds good and

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Speaker 1: he ran very well. We're about you. I love him.

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Speaker 1: M A. Paul if David and Bethlehem writes in uh

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Speaker 1: Fat Shamy on national television after that wake up three sixty.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you I just wake up. I think he

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Speaker 1: went to sleep on eighty. Freddie, I was telling I

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Speaker 1: was telling Deuce, Freddie, I was wrong about whether or

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Speaker 1: not the offense would look different with Mac. It would

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Speaker 1: look the same, all right. That was being sarcastic. I

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Speaker 1: got finger wagged on the postgame show, Freddie. Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: by who I know, some guy. This is Patriot's Unfiltered,

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Speaker 1: day every day. That's our show when you're not here. Addition,

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Speaker 1: all right, uh, it is Wednesday here at Jill's Stadium,

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Speaker 1: and it's a real Wednesday, except the team's not here. Huh.

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Speaker 1: That's true. We just can't get it completely back to normal.

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Speaker 1: And even next week is the Saturday game, Saturday, crazy

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Speaker 1: Christmas Eve. We'll see him last two weeks. Yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: They can't. I don't know. I thought on my calendar

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Speaker 1: but it won't be the Buffalo game. Oh I didn't

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Speaker 1: opinion that it's going to be Sunday because the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Kansas City more than likely, right, because I mean, unless

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Speaker 1: one of those teams slips up. Yeah, if it's within

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Speaker 1: it's Pep, it's Fred. This is the guy we gotta get.

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Speaker 1: We gotta get these these playoffs. Don't get me a

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Speaker 1: headache me other people like that talk four weeks that's

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Speaker 1: I think it's just us today, just the trio. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: in the desert Tucson with the team. Yes. I hope

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Speaker 1: he's doing well. They just did to catch twenty two shows.

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Speaker 1: I thought evans Um after further review, thing was interesting.

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Speaker 1: not a great look that fourteen weeks into the season

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Speaker 1: like and this is the in this author's canon and

423
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 1: talking about like that, and I had no idea what

424
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 1: they were talking about. Like that was welcome to college moment.

425
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 1: Like what what? I don't know. I don't know who

426
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 1: decides that though, Like who makes the canon of city names?

427
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 1: Paul Paul typing away for yourself. I'm looking up Gotham City.

428
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,120
Speaker 1: I want to see what it says. Yeah, I mean,

429
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 1: I would the only connotation of canonically, I would do

430
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 1: is frey like really kind of like church related, Like

431
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,199
Speaker 1: I don't, I mean, I don't know. It's it's like

432
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 1: they're teaching, they're you know, part of their not lexicon,

433
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,160
Speaker 1: but their body of work, you know. Gotham, Gotham City,

434
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 1: or simply Gotham's, a fictional city appearing in American comic

435
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 1: books published by TZ accounts the snow for Batman or

436
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 1: location created. Yeah, I just thought it was a nickname

437
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 1: for New York City always. That's well, like sometimes a

438
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 1: metropolis can be more than one city. It's like a

439
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 1: string of cities that are really close to each other.

440
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 1: Gotham City is traditionally depicted as being located in the

441
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Speaker 1: US state of New Jersey. Gotham's looking atmosphere was primarily

442
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 1: influenced by New York City. UM architect Hugh Ferris's designs

443
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: also influenced the look and emotional feel of Gotham City,

444
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Speaker 1: particularly in the later applications. Finger chose the name Gotham

445
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Speaker 1: as so it says New Jersey. According to wikipa, So

446
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 1: Gotham City and Batman is in New Jersey. That's what

447
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: it says on Wikipedia. Matt Morale earned me something. Wow, okay,

448
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,239
Speaker 1: me too. Then he correct he's leaning into the Jersey too.

449
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 1: I guess all right? All right then, like the fact

450
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Speaker 1: that I apology, I just let off with the very

451
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 1: first sentence. Is a fictional city? I apologize, he's he's

452
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 1: actually giving a tip of the cap to the New Jersey.

453
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm surprise you lived in New Jersey. Although it's fictional,

454
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 1: so I don't know why he can't just say New Jersey.

455
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:21,479
Speaker 1: But that's all right, we're fictional. What is this geiction? Um? Okay,

456
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 1: so goal last night? I missed that? Sorry, go ahead.

457
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: So he's so old he doesn't have to wear a helmet?

458
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: Is that what? Um? All right? Vegas? So what are

459
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 1: we thinking here? I'd be feeling good, Fred, Yeah, I'm

460
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 1: not feeling good at all about this one. And I

461
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: and I it's a I feel like it's a must win,

462
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: and I'm just let's talk about the spot. You know, uh,

463
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: you know that's a big thing in betting. But it's true.

464
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: You know there are spots that you know, give a

465
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 1: team advantage or a disadvantage. What's the spot here for

466
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 1: the Patriots? Is it a good spot or a bad spot?

467
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: I would say it's a good spot, but I don't

468
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: really think it's a huge one way or the other,

469
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: because I think you could make arguments both ways, which

470
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: probably means it's not really. But for the Patriot's side,

471
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: they're coming off a win that they had to have

472
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: Monday night. They got to be feeling good about themselves.

473
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: They're out there for the week under I would say,

474
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: the best of circumstances. They won the game that they

475
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: had to win. Yeah, and they're playing a team that

476
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: lost a game that is absolutely inexplicable that they lost. Yeah,

477
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: I don't care what you want to tell me. Thursday night,

478
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: short week, all that crap. You lost to a guy

479
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 1: who was on the team for forty eight hours, right,

480
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: and you had a five minutes left, with five minutes left,

481
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 1: Like that's I think that's a good spot for the Patriots.

482
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: At the same time, the Raiders now had ten days

483
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: to sort of get over that. To our point that

484
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: we've been trying to make, we think the players will

485
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: sort of rally around Josh and the rest of the

486
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 1: former Patriot's staff and put their best foot forward. And

487
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: they have ten days to prepare for this game, and

488
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: the pay jots are on a short week. So I

489
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: don't really think it's a great spot either side. But

490
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: I think if I had to pick one, I would

491
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: say the Patriots are in a better spot because emotionally

492
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 1: they won and the Raiders lost. Yeah, I wonder emotionally

493
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: where the Patriots are at two? Aside from the win,

494
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: just from went to Vegas, had a couple of good practices,

495
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: didn't play great in the game, went to Miami, took

496
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 1: an extended break before that game, didn't play great, where

497
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: are they at mentally? Like, all right, we got another

498
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: week on the road. We're going to be outside of

499
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: our facility. We're gonna be, you know, kind of winging it,

500
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: trying to figure out, you know, where we're going all

501
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: that stuff. So I don't know. I just I wonder

502
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: if they're going to get a little bit stale being

503
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: away from the stadium, being outside of the out of

504
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: the out of the you know, the usual routine, and

505
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: winning two in a row on an extended road for tough. Yeah,

506
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 1: it's tough. Um injury wise, aren't they in better shape

507
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: than the Patriots? At least from what we know now?

508
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: You know, we don't know about mccordy, We don't know,

509
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what the Raids injury

510
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: situation is really. I mean, they've had um key guys

511
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: that have been on IR and haven't played in a

512
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: long time. I don't know what I mean, it's I mean,

513
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: it's Renfro and Waller, I think, I mean those are

514
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, they've had offensive line issues. I think they've

515
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: they've settled in Illuminois, I think playing right guard for him, um,

516
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: you know, but I don't think the injuries are a

517
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: big thing for them. It's just those two guys. And then,

518
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: like I said, everybody talking yesterday, you know, Mike Paula Greeno,

519
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: that they're gonna play. They're expecting them to play, um

520
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: and they got to, you know, an up close look

521
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: at what that can look like. And I mean, I

522
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: don't think anybody needs a description of what Hunter and

523
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: Renfro is going to do in this offense as as

524
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: a player who's quicken in the middle. And I mean

525
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: I kind of do because I haven't seen it, Like

526
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: he hadn't really done anything all year. Well, I mean,

527
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: I mean I saw what they you know, I saw

528
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: some of it in camp. No, No, I know, you

529
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: I know, you know, what Josh is gonna do, Like,

530
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: I mean, this is gonna be a tough cover. You

531
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: gotta worry about two big guys on the outside. You

532
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 1: gotta worry about Waller, I worry about Adam. I mean

533
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: to me, it's all, it's all. That's I mean, it

534
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: all comes down to Derek Card Because Adams, it makes

535
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 1: it harder to cover those up the gay No, that's

536
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: that's Mike's point. You know, he's worried about Renfro in

537
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: the slot because of what Adams. But it doesn't even

538
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: matter because takes double cover Adams and still throwing the

539
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: ball and he might come up with it. So, you know,

540
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: just giving the injuries in the Patriots secondary, I mean,

541
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: even without injuries, you're probably looking at Miles Bryant in

542
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: the slot against Hunter Renfrom I do think the injuries

543
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: in the secondary are concerning. I'll say this, you know,

544
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: and offensively for the Patriots based on like the I

545
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: don't know, based on the reaction yesterday, would you be

546
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: stunned if DeVante Parker plays like he can't play after

547
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: what he did yet like calling out the league and

548
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: then you you come back like the next day, like

549
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: like on a short week could come back and play

550
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: the next game, right, Like, I don't think he can play.

551
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: I don't know what myers situation is, so that's not

552
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: ideal now it is though, Speaking of slot, do you

553
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: cope Beasley's coming out of retirement to go to the Bills? Yeah? Yeah,

554
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: it's funny, like it didn't work with Tampa, but maybe

555
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: he just figures I have the comfort of knowing what

556
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: they're doing in Buffalo, so that makes it easier because

557
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: he came out. He came back for Tampa. Well earlier

558
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: in the year to first thing, is that that much

559
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: of a need for the Bill? So dude, are they

560
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: realizing that that's what's missing for us? Is Yeah, Crowder,

561
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: Crowder got hurt. They had a I think lean on

562
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie as a true slot guy as opposed to

563
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: a gadget guy. And he's a gadget guy, right, He's not.

564
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: I mean other than against the Patriots, he's not that guy.

565
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: Well that's what Evan said too. I mean, just that's

566
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: all he runs is just straight across diagonally across the field,

567
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: you know, not he's got He's got a lot of drops.

568
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what his numbers are, but

569
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: he's had a hard time catching Khalil remember him, We

570
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: liked him, Yeah, he had I think he had like

571
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: one catch in the Thursday night game or something. Yeah,

572
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I don't think that Cole Beasley

573
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: is the answer, but I just think it's someone they

574
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: feel comfortable with and they and they can rely on that.

575
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: They know that Josh Allen has a comfort level with.

576
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a bad move. They get rid

577
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: of the other guy, Stevenson too. I think Marquez Stevenson Ques. Yeah, sorry,

578
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. Mark quest Uh. Kristen and Houston writes

579
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: in when it comes to fandoms, cannon is the original

580
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: source material, and canonically would mean according to the original source.

581
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm not a DC fan, so I can't say for

582
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: sure in this case, but I would say anything that

583
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: is found in the original comic books is canon. So

584
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: if any of the new movies make any modifications that

585
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: contradict the comic books, that's not DC cannons. So canonically

586
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: is like originally intended, right, Okay, yeah, then that's uh,

587
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: that's what I learned today. Thank you Christ. The meaning

588
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: of the word canonically, I'm not that smart all right.

589
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: It's big in Star Wars too, you know, like because

590
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: there's like novels, but those aren't in Cannon like you

591
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: know the alternate. You know they can until you know

592
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: Star Wars says they're in the same thing with DC

593
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: and Batman. Yeah, the new can come out and put

594
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: all right, we're done. I get a feeling to have

595
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: a nerd fight here in a little bit. I did

596
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: send some tone yeah, with morel which is very rare

597
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: because Matt is always under control. Yeah, unless you get

598
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: least as we've seen, unless you get them really going

599
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: Greens and Batman all right. Um, By the way, man,

600
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: I had my haircut in uh when I was in

601
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: Arizona buy a marine. Yeah, good good barber had to work.

602
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: I had like it was an old fashioned barbershop. So

603
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: I had to straight edge save the straight edge. They

604
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: even waxed my nose. Yeh, never do that. I don't

605
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: want to do that. They put wax up your nose

606
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: and pull it out, makes all your nose hair just

607
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: a little bit. It seems like something that would make

608
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: you sneeze. Definitely it didn't, but yeah it was. But

609
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: I had the whole works, you know it was good

610
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: to hot towel, everything like hotel. Yeah, I started getting

611
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: the end. You want me to do the eyebrows, just

612
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: let's go so good stuff. I like the straight edge though, Yeah,

613
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: that's good. I always have one. It always makes me

614
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: a little uncomfortable. Oh yeah, yeah, you don't want to move? No, no,

615
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: sudden my life. The last few times I've gone to

616
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: my guy and I don't really go to it like

617
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: a real barber. But go to Gena anymore? No, I

618
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: can't do that anymore. I can't substantiate the trip to

619
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: Everett Fitness. Um, but my brother still goes, so I

620
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: still get the gossip from her love Gina. She's the greatest,

621
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Speaker 1: was Gina. His arm would move out just a little, Gina, Gina?

622
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: Oh why did I say, Gina? No, I know how

623
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: you feel about Gina's I know that's a that's yes

624
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: in your wheel. Oh and absolutely yes it's the answer. Yeah, yes,

625
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: all right? A five high school with five five, five

626
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Speaker 1: hundred is the ace ticket outline now she looks twenty

627
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Speaker 1: younger than radio at pagris dot com. Is the email

628
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Speaker 1: address anything else before we hand it over to the listeners? No,

629
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Speaker 1: just I mean the coaches. I mean, that was that

630
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,959
Speaker 1: that was the big thing. Yes to them, yea, um,

631
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: go through stuff. I mean, it's just funny, Maddie P.

632
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: Just it just seems so wide eyed, and you know,

633
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: people are I mean people are asking him direct questions

634
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: about it, and well they were all over him in

635
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: the Morning Show because you know, he was talking about

636
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: how it's okay to be passionate. We love the game.

637
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: That's fine with me. And you know, I was with

638
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: Bruski Rabel McGinnis and they were passionate, and the Morning

639
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: Show was like, how dare he say that he dealt

640
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: with them? You know, I don't think he said that,

641
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: like he dealt with that, like he witnessed it. He

642
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: was on the team when they were passionate. Patricia, Maddie P.

643
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I just think that the coach.

644
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: I mean, and I understand what the coaches are doing,

645
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: and I do not criticize their reactions to this, but

646
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's I don't really know of

647
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: a lot of examples that are apples to apples with this,

648
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: Like it's not a motion, it's like that it's in subordination,

649
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: Like there's a difference and I don't know, Like I

650
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: heard a lot of people saying, like Teddy Bruski, you know,

651
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: routine I think ty Law talked about it routinely, would

652
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: change the calls and stuff like that, which can definitely

653
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: be put in You can classify that as insubordinate. Yeah,

654
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: but it's not go f yourself. I'm not calling that play,

655
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: which is basically what Mac Jones did on the field. Yeah,

656
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: he turned waved his hand and said go f yourself. Right, Like,

657
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: that's not the same thing. And I think this whole

658
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: notion of pat like set aside for a second whether

659
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: or not you agree with Mac and think that he's

660
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: been put in a round. I think we all agree

661
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: that he has, and he does deserve to be upset

662
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: about it in a lot of ways, right, we all agree. Yeah,

663
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: you can't blame him, right, I can't. Yeah, I don't

664
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: necessarily blame him. I'm just taking this at phase value.

665
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: Don't equate what Mac Jones is doing with emotion, showing emotion. Like,

666
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: you know, I heard a lot of the assistant coaches

667
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: saying things along the lines of, well, we'd rather have

668
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: that than a guy that you need to kick in

669
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: the in the ass. To get motivated. No one's talking

670
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: about motivation lack of motivation, showing emotion. This is he's

671
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: he's mocking you. He's like he's showing you up, like

672
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: he's disregarding your openly right, Like I'm not telling you

673
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: right wrong or indifferent And I'm not a huge like

674
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: he hasn't earned it. Guy, you know you and I

675
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: talked about that a few weeks ago. Yeah, Freddie, yep.

676
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: And I don't think this is the end of the world.

677
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: I think it happened the other night, and it is

678
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: an emotional game. I don't think that has to be

679
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: the be all end all for for mac Jones. But

680
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's being compared properly to anything else,

681
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: Like comparing it to like Tom Brady coming on the

682
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: sideline and having an argument with Bill O'Brien. It's not

683
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: the same thing. Like they're upset about something that happened

684
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: in the game, not like just no, no, no, Mike, Mike,

685
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: keep your mouth shut. I'll do it. I'll do whatever

686
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: I want, Like he just just like just openly mocked

687
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: him and dismissed him. I just I mean, again, I

688
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: came to it late. I I just look at it

689
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: as an extension of everything we've seen from Mac, like,

690
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: this is just this is what he is. Like I don't.

691
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: I I hesitated to get into like what did it mean?

692
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: What was he talking in reference too? And all that?

693
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: Like this is just who he is. And you know,

694
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: I think that there's ways that things come off that

695
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: just I mean, it rubbed me the wrong way, Like

696
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I don't even know if he's

697
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: waving on Maddy pe And if he is, that's fine,

698
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: but you know, I've said it before, just some of

699
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: the and I've seen the word histrionics thrown around a

700
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: little bit, and I don't know if that's a little intense,

701
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: but I don't know if there's just this's just something

702
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: about it that that Yeah. I don't like it either,

703
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: But for those people who from the beginning didn't like

704
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: the move to for Patricia Oc, this is kind of vindication, right,

705
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: or validation. I mean, it's it's right Mac Jones agrees

706
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: with you at least. I mean, it's been apparent since

707
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: since the spring that Mac Jones agrees with the people

708
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: who disagreed with this move. Yeah. Yeah, But at the

709
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: same time, I just feel like you. You you make

710
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: it fit whatever you want wherever you don't, you don't

711
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 1: do your best to make it. You don't. You don't

712
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: voice your displeasure like that. You do it in your

713
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: quarterback meeting, you do it in your offensive meeting, you

714
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: do it face to face in his office, you know,

715
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: but you don't do it during the game like that.

716
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: You know, we're all he just don't. Yeah, you know,

717
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: we used to make fun of Marino when he would

718
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: yell at at his receivers, and that's like half of

719
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: what Mac did, right, you know, and like to me,

720
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: like the emotions to the receivers, that's the emotion of

721
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, like I'm getting a play call and

722
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know, like no, no, no, no, yeah,

723
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: shut up like that. I don't know. It's it's very

724
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: it's very I would just say I am very tennis player.

725
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: He yes, And in terms of the entire situation, I'm

726
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: very pro Mac, as I have been in since this

727
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: whole since it all started. I just don't think that

728
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: he's done a great job of trying his best to

729
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: make it work. Yeah. I think he has said this

730
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: is dumb. We shouldn't be doing it this way and

731
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, And I know, like you know, after

732
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: things got better, you know, they were on the sideline,

733
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: which tells me that he felt guilty. Yeah what he did? Yeah? Yeah,

734
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like he went over

735
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: and said I should probably hug it out? And who

736
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: more than like how many times have like I done

737
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: something or said something stupid? And I tell you, guys,

738
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: And that's why I wish I could walk that one back,

739
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: because I'm stubborn and emotional. I get it. That's why

740
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: I'm pro mac here on on this particular yeah issue,

741
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pro mac. I don't know where I stand

742
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: necessarily on Mac Jones the quarterback in his future, right,

743
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: I think that's very much up in in question. But

744
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: more importantly, Steve writes in and formed Fred that nose

745
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: hairs are necessary to fight colds and clean your air filter,

746
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: so to speak. Her job don't don't pull him out.

747
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: You gotta don't pull him out. If you pull him,

748
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: you could get infected and then it's up in your nose.

749
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: And I saw that at one point. But you know,

750
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: every funny because I have it. I have some issues

751
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: with my nose that have been lingering for a couple

752
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: of months, and I wonder if it's because I don't

753
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: pull your nose heresy, because I do. I tweezed them sometimes.

754
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: Get to get one of those little, you know, a

755
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: little clippers thing that just you stick up there and

756
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: its good safety tip from Deuce. Okay, that's why I

757
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: was a little surprised. Us guys just getting whipping him out.

758
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: And Achiel in Brooklyn, says M. Paul mentioned Gotham, city

759
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: of Batman fame, is in New Jersey. This is due

760
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: to New York City also existing in the DC universe. However,

761
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: Gotham has also been used as a nickname for the

762
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: real world New York City the eighteen hundreds, which predates

763
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: the creation of Batman. So Fred, depending on how generous

764
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: you are feeling your shot at Sala is still valid

765
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: and your shot at canonically you're making mat Yeah, um

766
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: Dan and Lynchburg. How do you think Billy O would

767
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: address a QB like Mac Jones dismissing or outright embarrassing

768
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: him during a game like that? I would have been

769
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: an argument. Yeah. Would pairing Mac with Billy O be

770
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: too combustible or would it be more constructive? Tension oh,

771
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: I think he'd coach him hard like he wants. I mean,

772
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: I kind of like it. I'm not I'm not going there,

773
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,959
Speaker 1: but I'm saying I like I like that dynamic because

774
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: I think Billy O would be like, STF, you go

775
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: out there and do it. I know, And I think

776
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: that that's probably what Patricia's response should have been the

777
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: other Now, it wouldn't have been like right at the time,

778
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: but when that series is over, hey, listen, I think

779
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: that would have been a fair response from Matt Patricians. Yeah,

780
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: I got the play. The play got in there late. Yeah,

781
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, I'll let you know for the

782
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: next game that you go without a mistake, right, It's

783
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: like that's good. Now. A lot of people are making

784
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: a big deal about Mac, you know, talking about Josh

785
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: McDaniels yesterday and saying, well, you know, he really coached

786
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: me hard on the you know, last week he said

787
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: he wanted to be coach harder, and then this week

788
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: he says, well, Josh coached me hard. Is that is that,

789
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: you know valid? It is it valid to be looking

790
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: at that or is it just I think that, like,

791
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: do you think that's an accident that he's like, I

792
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: don't know. Last week said I want to be coach hotter,

793
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: and this week he's talking about how Josh coached me hard.

794
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: I mean, like you think that's an accident, it's on

795
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: his mind. Oh there it is now. I Um, I

796
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: mean I think that they coach hard here anyway. I mean,

797
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: I I don't know. Yeah, And maybe there's some wiggle

798
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: room that you know, Maddy p doesn't maybe have the

799
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: experience to to reach into and grasp when he's trying

800
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: to break those kind of things down. But um, I'm

801
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: sure there's a lot of a lot of respect. A

802
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: lot of guys saying yesterday too, I like Mayo saying,

803
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: felt like everything just kind of kind of net neutral,

804
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: net neutral, with everybody knowing each other, having practiced against

805
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: each other, and you know, just went back to the

806
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: coaches lose games, players win them. We just have to

807
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: put our guys and you know, it's not about us

808
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: versus Josh. It's about the guys versus the guys. All right,

809
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: A five five pats five hundred is the ace ticket

810
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: hut line. Um, let's go to the phone, see who's

811
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: calling us. Patty and Agawamp is on the call, what's

812
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: up guys? Anybody? So I got a quick question for uh,

813
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: for Fred and then um, a little statement about the

814
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: Raiders game. Brett Deep, No, off hand if Barmore flu

815
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: with the team, I do not know, and I don't

816
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 1: think he did. But I don't know that for sure,

817
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: all right. I know before the Minnesota game, i'd pose

818
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: the question on what I already knew the answer to,

819
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: who do you try and take away Dalvin Cooker? Justin Jefferson.

820
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: To me this this is sort of the same situation

821
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: with Jacobs and Davante Adams. I mean, you can't let

822
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: Adams take this game over. Hopefully they they're able to

823
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: do a little bit of everything, but if you've got

824
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: to concede one thing, I would think you would want

825
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: to concede the running game, and don't let Adams go

826
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: off for like eight catches two fifty and three touchdowns.

827
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how they're going to do it, especially

828
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: without borrow More. I mean, they look good getting pressure,

829
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: but I don't know, man. I like you guys like

830
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 1: you do. So I don't have a good feeling about

831
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: this game. There's no easy answer. I mean, and you

832
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: can't even come up with something you can talk yourself into.

833
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: Thanks Pat. In terms of matching up, there's a lot

834
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: of weapons, and it's like just to me, I mean,

835
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: it might not be find a way again like it

836
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: was last week, but I think it starts with just

837
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: the past rush pressure, Like if they can just be

838
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: disruptive every time the Raiders try to pass the ball

839
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Speaker 1: like just get after him. You gotta you gotta there,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to to to come up with, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: And I think the best course for the Patriots to

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Speaker 1: when they're in position to win games and can't figure

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Speaker 1: if if if that happens again and it's the fifth

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Speaker 1: Those are the ones that worry me the most. Let's

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Speaker 1: all right, Allian. Every time there's so many days I

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Speaker 1: was you right? I mean you've seen that at joint practices,

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Speaker 1: there's not a corner's gonna stop Devon dam. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: you know, Well, what's gonna happen. You're gonna see You're

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Speaker 1: gonna be penalties, Yeah, I know what it is. The

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Speaker 1: they have disrupt the time assistently. Yeah, and I think

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Speaker 1: they have to force some turnovers. Man. Yeah, Well I'm worried. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of also worried about Tyler Jones getting that mad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's been doing it all year, right, And I have

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Speaker 1: I had, well, I had one more down this one.

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Speaker 1: I have to push this a little bit more because, um,

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Speaker 1: even though y'all dude talked about this, but I just

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Speaker 1: so it is. I'm gonna tell you just how bad

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Speaker 1: don't know what's going on, but yeah, he looks bad.

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Speaker 1: But I want you to know just how bad the

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Speaker 1: Got none of your receivers can hymn branch out due

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Speaker 1: over us at least a thousand yards. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just that bad a free agency you're gonna lose.

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Speaker 1: Javonte Devonte Parker and the only guy that I know

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Speaker 1: the only guy I know will be back next year's daughter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: really mean, I mean born In Parker will have a

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Speaker 1: You know when we talk about okay, Patricia, if he's

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Speaker 1: What if it's a whole new wide receiving corps for Mac.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's tough. This is what this is

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a mess. Far I mean a fall

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Speaker 1: how y'all trying to explain it to us, y'all know

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Speaker 1: can I ask you a question though, gentlemen? Thanks, Well

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Speaker 1: go ahead. Well I'm sure you'll still listen. I just

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Speaker 1: And I understand what he's trying to say. I'm just

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Speaker 1: But it is a bad sci, is Yeah, they had

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Speaker 1: now great moments in history. You know what you do,

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Speaker 1: and you don't really have anything tangible you go on.

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Speaker 1: You go on things that are completely subjective. I think

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Speaker 1: it's Steve Belichick and Gerard May understand. Yeah, I can't argue.

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Speaker 1: I can't argue that, Paul Paul. I can't argue I

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Speaker 1: can't argue with that idea. Paul makes fun of all

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Speaker 1: the stats geeks, unless he was making fun, I'm not

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Speaker 1: making I'm not giving you any stats. I'm giving you performances.

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Speaker 1: The other team moved the ball at will and score points,

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Speaker 1: that's all. That's not a stat. You think Green Bay

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Speaker 1: moved the ball at will from the second half on, Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: but not the first half. They got off to a

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Speaker 1: slow start offensively in the first half. Why the Patriots

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Speaker 1: defense played well in the first half. I said, go

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Speaker 1: back and listen to and last week they put a

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Speaker 1: game together. We're both halfs they put So they're getting better,

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Speaker 1: they're getting better. You told me they got better in

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Speaker 1: the green Bay game. I think they were better in

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Speaker 1: green Bay than they were the week before, Right, yes,

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Speaker 1: they were, So they're getting better. They were, but they

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Speaker 1: weren't better than they were against Pittsburgh. Well Pittsburgh stinks, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean I do take something thinks that the consideration.

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Speaker 1: I think they were better than I think they were

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Speaker 1: better against green Bay than they were against Baltimore. I do, Okay,

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Speaker 1: evidence of getting better, and I think they were better

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Speaker 1: from green Bay to Baltimore. I don't think that the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore and Green Bay games. But did they get they

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00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: weren't better in the Baltimore or Green Bacon then they

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Speaker 1: were against Miami Or did they get better after Baltimore

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Speaker 1: and after Baltimore? Yes'day, and they got better after that. Right,

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Speaker 1: But they're getting better, but they got out, but they

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Speaker 1: got worse. That's another great moment from all right back

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Speaker 1: at Patriots on Filter eight five five pass five hundred

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Speaker 1: is eight ticket outline. Much like a lot of the

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00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: arguments that we have time tends to work out in

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00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: Paul's favorites. How's that green Bay defense looking now? Green

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00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: Bay hasn't scored twenty seven points in the game. Since

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00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: I was thinking of all the games this year, that's

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Speaker 1: probably the only one I could realistically say, I think

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Speaker 1: they should have gotten that one. That's green Bacon. It's

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00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: a bad team even with Zappy. I mean that's a factor.

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Speaker 1: But now I'm talking about the points they allowed. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm a complete slack for not scoring more points. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's true. Like zappy, third string guy comes off the

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Speaker 1: bench in the middle of the first quarter, I'm cutting them.

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Speaker 1: All fans did not playing is He's proving my old

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Speaker 1: point of you can't judge a schedule until the end

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Speaker 1: of the season. And I've fought, and I've never really fought,

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Speaker 1: you know, I know you always think you can take

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Speaker 1: these other things too, Like right now you can look

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Speaker 1: at it and say, well, Detroit stinks, and I agree,

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Speaker 1: you got them when they stunk. Right now, the Jets

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Speaker 1: are getting him at a much different time than the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Right so the beginning of the season. If Detroit's at

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Speaker 1: the end of your schedule, like well, that's a win. Conversely, now, conversely,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots got Baltimore in a week three, right, you

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Speaker 1: get Baltimore next week, much easier game than it wasn't

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Speaker 1: a week three, right, So it works. Both those are

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Speaker 1: the things like the reason why you know if we

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Speaker 1: sometimes you know, picker back, but yeah, if they all

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Speaker 1: those generally even out. Yeah, you know, the teams that

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Speaker 1: you played that you thought were good at the time

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Speaker 1: and then turn out to be not so good, and

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Speaker 1: then the teams that you think stunk and weren't really

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Speaker 1: impressed that turn out to be much better. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: go they go back, and I think, but I think

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Speaker 1: everybody that had Detroit on their schedule like, Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: that's a game that we should win. We can we

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Speaker 1: talk some and I do, and I do think that's

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Speaker 1: a team. Well, we talked to like at length yesterday.

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Speaker 1: No more love going well no, no, no, okay, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna see the floor to Mike, and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna because Fred, I don't think you're gonna like

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Speaker 1: with my cats to say, because we talk about the

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Speaker 1: show before the show. So go ahead, Mike. You know,

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Speaker 1: as as a radio veteran, Paul, you know that not

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Speaker 1: everyone listens to every minute of every show, so we

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Speaker 1: probably have new audience today. Well, he didn't have yesterday

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Speaker 1: one AFC Defensive Player of the Week today, so it

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Speaker 1: is topical. Still, Um, I just was saying that Paul

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Speaker 1: that I hope you know we're all being cognizant of

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Speaker 1: where these stats came again and who they came against.

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Speaker 1: And I'm look, I production is production, and like, I

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Speaker 1: want to say that as the baseline, but at the

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Speaker 1: same time, this is the first time the list last game,

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Speaker 1: first time in josh Ucha's Curry played more than fifty

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Speaker 1: percent snaps in the game first time, you know, So

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Speaker 1: I think he is what he is. I think they

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Speaker 1: certainly need him to continue this pace. But I also

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Speaker 1: I'm just not you have seen but you have to

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Speaker 1: be encouraged though. Ten sacks and six games. So Mike,

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Speaker 1: when you say who they come against, like, what do

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Speaker 1: you mean? Like, I'm curious, what do you mean? You know? Specifically? Well,

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Speaker 1: specifically is backups A lot of backups that that he's

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Speaker 1: been toasting and and you know, and sometimes some of

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Speaker 1: these are building on at the end of games when

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Speaker 1: you know it's kind of already decided to look and

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Speaker 1: I don't want to like turn this into a crusade

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Speaker 1: that I hate josh Ucha Um. When you were talking

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Speaker 1: about but you're getting tired of I'm just well, I

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Speaker 1: love it's a little more fun on the outside of

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Speaker 1: these just to watch. You're just tired of a sack anymore.

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Speaker 1: I like more when he wasn't playing um, But you know,

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Speaker 1: I just look, it's fine. I just I'm not starting

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Speaker 1: a parade for josh Uja just yet. And I would

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Speaker 1: say after I saw him talk I think it was

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Speaker 1: Friday he did his press appearance. I went into the

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Speaker 1: locker room talking to our guys and was like, he

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01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: seems like he's gonna like break Kyler Murray in half.

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Speaker 1: Like he just seemed really focused for that whatever, very serious,

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Speaker 1: and he had a great game. But I just I

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Speaker 1: want to see him do it in these last four games.

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Speaker 1: If he does it in these last four games, I'm

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Speaker 1: all aboard the Josh josh uj hype train. I'm just

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Speaker 1: still not convinced that he's anything more than a replaceable

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Speaker 1: third down rusher. Yeah. I mean, you know me, I

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Speaker 1: got finger wag for saying that he was, Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: kind of emerging as a closer. Yeah, but I think

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Speaker 1: if you're if let's just say you're the best third

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Speaker 1: down rusher, like that's what you are. You know, that's great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't need him to be that. I don't need

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Speaker 1: him to be any more than that. I think what

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Speaker 1: Mike's point is he went back and looked at it,

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Speaker 1: and it is true. Like they faced a string of backups. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Christian Deissa didn't play. He got a

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Speaker 1: sack off that side in the Minnesota game. It's a

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Speaker 1: big play. Um Deon Dawkins didn't play against Buffalo, he

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Speaker 1: got a sack, a big play of Josh Allen strip

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01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: sack coming off that side. So I think that's what

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Speaker 1: Mike's point is. He did what a good player should

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Speaker 1: do against a backup. Right now, Let's see if he

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Speaker 1: does it in the big when we absolutely need him

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Speaker 1: this week. And now I would say, and I would say,

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Speaker 1: I would much rather have the one sack against Minnesota

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Speaker 1: in the one sack against Buffalo that I'm just talked about,

1246
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Speaker 1: then the three sacks in the last five minutes last week.

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Speaker 1: And I think Bill said it, you know after the game,

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Speaker 1: uh in Arizona. You know they talk about, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's encouraging to see the young guys, you know, with production.

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Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, it is great, but you know, let's

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Speaker 1: see if they can do it. Yeah, day after day,

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01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: game after game, and you know, and then we'll start

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01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: to look for them. Yeah. Now, I don't know if

1254
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: he meant like we'll start to look for them more

1255
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: or other teams will start to look That's how I

1256
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: took it. The other teams will start to look for

1257
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: them and know what they can do, and then and

1258
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: then can you keep doing it? Yeah? And I would

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01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: throw Ucha into that group. Even though he's been around

1260
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: a while, he really hasn't played consistently until this year. Yeah.

1261
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: And I think that this is the best production that

1262
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: he's had consistently this stretch. I'm not talking about the

1263
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: number of sacks. I'm talking about the number of plays

1264
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: that he's shown up and played well. Yeah, you know,

1265
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: I don't mean just to see it doesn't get on

1266
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: cause the penalty getting kicked off the field like he

1267
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: was early in his career, or getting hurt or getting hurt. Yeah.

1268
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: I just wonder if if if you know your average

1269
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: offensive coordining right now would tell you that what we

1270
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: need to have a plan for him, Like I don't.

1271
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: I struggle to think that you. I mean, you definitely

1272
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: need to be aware of Jude on and I think

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01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: we've seen that in recent weeks. I don't know, go

1274
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: back and look at the tape now with Vouche, he's

1275
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: showing some really good you know, moves going in like

1276
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: he's fast. He played Fred I think, yeah, I mean

1277
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: he got the anc player or the leak. You've got

1278
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: to be encouraged. I'm encouraged, but I'm not going to

1279
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: be surprised if he has zero sacks over these last

1280
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: four games and they but this is what we need

1281
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 1: you like, this is it. I'm okay if zero sacks,

1282
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: if all of a sudden, judeans back on the board,

1283
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: you know, or that's that's a field, that's a half point,

1284
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: and they're able to as a team, Roge to suck it.

1285
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: To me, it's more about how he plays. I want

1286
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: to see him play if he doesn't get any sacks,

1287
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: but he you know, like yeah, like I said, the

1288
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: best play that he made Saturday Monday night, Saturday Monday

1289
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: Night was the play that he caused the interception. No

1290
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: sack on that play, right, that was a big play.

1291
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: If I see if I see him around the quarterback consistently,

1292
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: but he doesn't quite get there. Yeah, you know, like

1293
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins got rid of the ball the other that

1294
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: night effectively as as a veteran quarterback, you know, I

1295
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: don't think he had all day to survey the field

1296
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: all night. I think he just was a better quarterback

1297
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: than what they normally face, certainly better than Colt McCoy. Yeah,

1298
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: he did a good job. Five five hundred. Is he

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01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: a ticket? Outline web radio at Patriots dot com. Let's

1300
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: go to Nat in Santa Cruz. What's up nat? Hey, guys? Hey, hey,

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01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: good god? Yeah. Yeah, So I'm gonna can't find myself

1302
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: on something here. And I actually am really excited about

1303
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: Mac getting worked up and yelling at MADDIEP. So I

1304
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: hear the insubordination parts that you guys are talking about.

1305
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: But I also saw Mac be this kind of like

1306
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: kick the dirt, like, yeah, that's what he was doing

1307
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: at the time. Yeah, that's basically what he was doing

1308
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 1: on the field, was kicking the dirt and sulky. Yeah,

1309
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: but at least he was like angry about it. Yeah,

1310
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,919
Speaker 1: you like the fire. I'd like to see a little

1311
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 1: less anger and a little more production out of the offense.

1312
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: You like the fire, but you know, I think he's

1313
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: consistently angry all year that if you were the offensive coordinator,

1314
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: would you like your quarterback during a game to tell

1315
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: to go f yourself and shut the f up? Would

1316
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: you want him saying that to you from Maddie's perspective, No,

1317
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't for any of them. But every but everybody

1318
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: hates maddiep so they're taking the quarterback at any oc.

1319
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just not it's not constructive. It's not

1320
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: helping anyone when that football game. You know, I hear you, Yeah,

1321
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: I hear you on that. But I also I also

1322
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: didn't know if Mac had that angry, fiery side to him. Yeah,

1323
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: so that was a big concern going into this year

1324
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: for me. Was right, Okay, I don't know what people

1325
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: have been watching. I think he has that in spades.

1326
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: I think he's that every game. Yeah, so you want

1327
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: to let's just harness that. Let's harness that anger and

1328
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: turned it into energy. Right, and if they were, if

1329
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: he played better in the offense, was more productive. Yeah,

1330
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: I dove I dove a loook it. That's it works

1331
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: for him, Yeah, like it worked for McEnroe or Tom Brady,

1332
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah. I just see the types of

1333
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: step like this was not a great the best way

1334
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,959
Speaker 1: for it to come out, but the fire is there

1335
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: and he's no Joe Flacco. Yeah, Mike sent me an.

1336
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: Another one of Mike's tech said at one thirty in

1337
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 1: the morning was I don't I don't even know who

1338
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: that was, but someone on Twitter saying that he played

1339
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: great after that, and I was like, oh, you know,

1340
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: check staffs didn't see the greatness after that. I'm glad

1341
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: you said that, Paul. So this is when I got

1342
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: home and I was just I literally just pulled up

1343
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: Twitter and there's a random count I don't even follow,

1344
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: and had just had the video of it, and I

1345
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: was like oh, and and I was like, oh, Paul,

1346
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: I can't believe I just saw it. And so I

1347
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: was just like, I'm gonna send the tweet to Paul.

1348
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: And then I like read what says below the tweet

1349
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 1: and it's like really kind of glowing m mac and

1350
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, Paul's gonna think I'm sending I'm thinking and

1351
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: Paul's gonna get so sidetracked getting mad at this guy

1352
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: for saying Matt playing Well, I'm just trying to say,

1353
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: no video. I'm just saying I think what it is

1354
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 1: is what I just said to Nat. I think that

1355
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: people have decided that the soul problem is Matt Patricia.

1356
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: So everybody is gonna just say, right, he's right, so

1357
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: he should be doing. There's all the great things Matt

1358
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: can do. Look there and glimpses of it. And again,

1359
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the end of the world that

1360
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: Mac lost his composure and snapped. I don't think it's

1361
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: the end of the world. Again, if they played better

1362
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: all year and he had these occasional outbursts, I'd say,

1363
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 1: well it works. That's just the way he is, that's

1364
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: the way, you know, he gets a little fiery and

1365
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: he responds. I don't think they played better after that

1366
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: that point. They scored ten points in the first half,

1367
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: ten points in the second half. They didn't do anything

1368
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: really better. And the biggest play was a forty four

1369
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: yard run. Right, I just I don't see the like

1370
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: after that after that outburst, right, he like he ran

1371
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: that was like a forty four yard run, and they

1372
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 1: settled for a field goal, like after this outburst that

1373
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 1: he supposedly responded to, do you know what I mean? Like,

1374
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: where is the evidence that it was like a lot

1375
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: of response by the offense, right I really don't want

1376
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: to go into a comparison with Brady right now of

1377
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:54,959
Speaker 1: just not play but just that kind of like sideline antics,

1378
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: sideline things that Brady used to do. Brady scares me,

1379
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 1: and I think like when he gets mad and he

1380
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: wants you to play better, there's just a sense of like,

1381
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 1: oh god, I'm really not like it's like your dad

1382
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 1: is mad at you because he's earned that respect. Yeah,

1383
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: And that's and that's why I know that this isn't

1384
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 1: a fair comparison and I hesitate to bring it up.

1385
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,719
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I just as for me personally,

1386
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: I just didn't really respond to how Mac handled that situation,

1387
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: and I didn't find myself saying like I want to

1388
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: play better. I was just like, why is he whining?

1389
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: Like what is he doing? Like it wasn't and when

1390
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,600
Speaker 1: you see it with Brady and other quarterbacks, I just

1391
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 1: feel like there's a sense of we aren't doing our

1392
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: job for this guy right now, and we need to

1393
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: pick it up and you know, and maybe I'm reading

1394
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: way too much into this, but I just I didn't

1395
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 1: get that vibe from from Mac at all and anything.

1396
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: I just I saw it was kind of annoying. And

1397
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm really I'm not overreacting to, you know, a bad

1398
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: moment like that. That's fine. I just think it's something

1399
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: to remember and keep an eye on and watch. I

1400
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: don't think it's something new from him, unlike Nat, like

1401
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: you know, this is a step. I didn't know we

1402
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: had this fire. I mean, I can give you countless

1403
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 1: examples of him, not to that extent, like you know,

1404
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,600
Speaker 1: directed towards, but you know, the the banging of the

1405
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: thigh pads after bad play, like the emotion you see

1406
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 1: that every game, yeah, every game from him, And even

1407
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: if it wasn't, I see, I see a little too

1408
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: much fire at times. I don't know which practice it was.

1409
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 1: It was a few practices at least into training camp

1410
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: where we had started to at least see a trend

1411
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: of like the offense just can't do anything. And there

1412
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 1: was one particular press conference where he wasn't It wasn't

1413
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 1: the demonstrative kind of hitting or pointing or anything like that,

1414
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: but it was the same energy of him of just

1415
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 1: being very, very frustrated. And we'll think about it. I mean,

1416
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 1: we've all played sports, right, not at that level obviously,

1417
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: but we've all played sports where we had a coach

1418
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 1: and I don't care like what level it is. Think

1419
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 1: about what you must think of your coach that you

1420
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 1: feel it's okay to say, shut the f up and

1421
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: go f yourself. Would you have ever said to your coach?

1422
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: Maybe you've thought it, but would you have ever said

1423
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 1: that to any of your coaches? Would have stun you

1424
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 1: to learn that even I have never done that. Yes, no,

1425
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 1: I've never done right right, So, like, I get it,

1426
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: that's the pros, But you have to you this is

1427
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 1: evidence of something that's going on that goes far beyond

1428
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 1: just being fiery in a game. This is a lack

1429
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 1: of respect for your coach that didn't just manifest itself

1430
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: in the moment. He must have felt it's okay for

1431
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: me to say this to this guy that articulates what

1432
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: my thought is. Yeah, like in a nutshell in this

1433
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: this individual thing is not a huge deal to me,

1434
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: but I think what it speaks is to what Fred

1435
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: just said. Yeah, so again, I'd love to hear the

1436
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 1: story of the twenty twenty two season when it's all

1437
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 1: said and done. You know, the hell of a story?

1438
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah will it? Probably not? Well, I think it'd be

1439
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: as boring as the vast majority of the games have been.

1440
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 1: And the offense again wasn't really producing. It's one thing

1441
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 1: like I just want to know who really thought, what

1442
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: about whom. Yeah, you won't remember this. Fred Mike might

1443
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: because he was a psycho fan like I was. But

1444
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: like it was like the ninety one season, maybe the

1445
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 1: Dick mcpher the first Dick McPherson season with Hugh millin.

1446
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 1: You know, they weren't very good. That was a bad team.

1447
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 1: I think they went six and ten. It wasn't a

1448
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 1: good team, but every game was kind of riveting, Like

1449
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: every game they either wanted at the end or had

1450
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 1: a chance to win it at the end, it couldn't

1451
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 1: finish it. And it was like an exciting, compelling season.

1452
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 1: Now it was another one of those back to the

1453
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: ESPN films, you know, the wrap up of the season

1454
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:32,600
Speaker 1: where Hugh milling be good and they went two and

1455
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: fourteen the next year and you know everything everybody got

1456
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: blown out. But this year, it's been one slog of

1457
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: a game after the next, whether it was the Jets

1458
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: ten to three, or the Colts game that no one

1459
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: could move the ball, or the Bills game on the

1460
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 1: Thursday night where the you know, the Bills just kind

1461
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: of kept you at arm's length all night. Boring, boring,

1462
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 1: boring Ravens. The Ravens game had some excitement, the Green

1463
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 1: Bay Bay three Bay had something exciting three many months ago,

1464
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: many moons, but the vast majority, I mean they've played

1465
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:10,600
Speaker 1: thirteen games now, I would say eight or nine of

1466
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 1: them were kind of dull. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, let's get

1467
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: back to the phones. Todds to North Carolina. Hey Todd, Hey, guys,

1468
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm curious, has is Dietrich Wise hurt? No, no, he

1469
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: is not. On the injuries and neutralized regrets to the mean. Okay, Yeah,

1470
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm actually kind of positive about the defense right now

1471
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 1: because I think Barnmore should be able to come back.

1472
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 1: Is it this No, it's next week, right, No, it

1473
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: could be this week. He's eligible today if he's even

1474
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: out there in practice and we don't know yet. Yeah,

1475
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if he travels. Okay, I think that

1476
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 1: with Barmore and then you've got like why's hood Day

1477
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: and Jude On that's the that's the core for your line.

1478
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 1: That's a that's a nice start. I'm not sure if

1479
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be, you know, able to put us past

1480
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: the bill, but it might make us competitive with saying Miami,

1481
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: I well, yeah, I mean the Barma be fit will

1482
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: be he'd be ready to play, Like, I don't know

1483
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 1: how long it's gonna take him to like be football ready.

1484
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 1: You know, he's been out for a while, right, I mean,

1485
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: but just as avery interior pass rusher, throw him out

1486
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: there for fifteen snaps and he can be you know,

1487
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: give you something. I guess, I guess you know. I mean,

1488
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 1: I'd rather have him out there, but I'm not anticipating

1489
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 1: him wreaking havoc in the last month. To your point,

1490
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 1: Freddy's done very little over the last eight weeks. Yeah,

1491
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: And I mean, and we'll just with the defense, we'll

1492
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: see at least four injury me right. Yeah. I think

1493
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: it was the kind of a lingering game, like he

1494
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: was trying to play. He had it and then he

1495
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 1: played again in Cleveland, I think, and then he heard

1496
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 1: it again and that was down. Yeah, and try to

1497
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 1: get him right. Yeah, yeah, okay, thank you, all right,

1498
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 1: Thanks Todd. Go to Mark and Everett. What's up? Mark?

1499
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 1: What's up? Guys? You know Aparello. Hey, did you go

1500
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: to Colo or did you go to gg Hilton? Which

1501
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: high school did you go to? Oh? No, no, little school?

1502
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: And you a little kid, because I still oh I

1503
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: went to this. I went to the Center school. Oh,

1504
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 1: center school. That's why I was young, calling you mister original. Sure,

1505
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 1: that's mister original. It's better than mister unlimited. One thing

1506
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:33,600
Speaker 1: about Max Jaldane, he's got no pocket because whatsoever. I

1507
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 1: watched him the other day He's running from wheen pockets

1508
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: into traffic instead of just looking down field. I mean,

1509
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 1: you can't coach pocketcause it yeah, yeah, it's it's Evan.

1510
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 1: Evan pointed out a play that I was looking at,

1511
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: the one where he threw the interception. I thought that

1512
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: he just held on to the ball just a beat

1513
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 1: too long after he stepped up and avoided pressure. And

1514
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 1: Evan's point was, when you step up, step up hard,

1515
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 1: So that would have given him an extra step or

1516
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 1: two to have time to hit an open Thornton, who

1517
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: was wide open on that play. You know, has there

1518
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: ever been a player that a guy wasn't wide open

1519
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: that the video shows it. I mean, you know, you

1520
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: got to give the credit. The video shows that that's

1521
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: where he was looking. There are guys open every player.

1522
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 1: We know that. But but like it's hard. I know,

1523
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 1: an easy thing to the guy was open if he

1524
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 1: had stepped up or a little bit more faster, or

1525
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 1: gott in the ball away a little quicker. That's a

1526
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 1: big play. That's a twenty at least the twenty yard play.

1527
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 1: Players a few players where the pocket was clean but

1528
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 1: he was feeling unimaginary pressure. But there was one there

1529
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: was one very blatant example of that where he sort

1530
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 1: of cut inside a guy that kind of wasn't there

1531
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 1: and then had to run for his life and throw

1532
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: it away. Yeah. I do think drifting in. Yeah, okay, Mark,

1533
01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, I think his his pocket was better

1534
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: last year. I do too, And that's why I wonder.

1535
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I clearly would look to the offense, the

1536
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: offensive design and how you know, and I mean also

1537
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 1: the trust of the protection. But it's just weird for

1538
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 1: a rookie to come in and maybe, like I think

1539
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 1: what we're saying kind of choking you don't know what

1540
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: you don't know. You come from Alabama, you think every

1541
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 1: quarterback gets all kinds of time, and then all of

1542
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 1: a sudden, you're playing behind an inconsistent offensive line that's

1543
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: cutting guys loose early in the season and you don't

1544
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: trust them anymore, and then you get into your own

1545
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: head and yeah, but I think it's I think it's true.

1546
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 1: I think he's been, you know, drifting into pressure sometimes,

1547
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: which is just why did you go to that? Like

1548
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 1: you had you had an open spot in the pocket

1549
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: that I felt like last year he would have he

1550
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 1: would have taken Aldred's in North Carolina. Hey Aldred, Hey,

1551
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 1: tell us, how y'all doing doing all right? Tell man,

1552
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't do it pretty good? Oh yeah, they keep

1553
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 1: showing it that thumb drop like every other twenty minutes

1554
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 1: on NFL Network, And I'd burn, you know, because I'm like, well,

1555
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 1: it's bad. But then again I agree with you. Go up, Paul.

1556
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: You gotta blame both. You know, you ain't playing well

1557
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 1: and you got the first time are office coordinator that

1558
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 1: really don't know how to do that. So you know

1559
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna get some fiction because you're also missing people's

1560
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 1: money and career, be honest with you. That's why I

1561
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 1: worried about the off season. If Bill don't hire nobody

1562
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: and and what you college here the old Sea. I

1563
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 1: don't care who you offer a first round draft picked you.

1564
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: If they don't got a chance of winning, you know,

1565
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: they might comebody. If they're coming put the money, They're

1566
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: just gonna play for the money. They're gonna put it,

1567
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, unless you get a real offensive board data

1568
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 1: or something, you know like that. But that's it. But

1569
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 1: my question is, who's the six two cornerback that they

1570
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 1: signed to the practice squad the other day? Is he?

1571
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 1: Is he a lie by or is he I know

1572
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 1: he's been the league about a couple of years. Can't

1573
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 1: play or what I know? Mike, Yeah, there's reason in

1574
01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 1: the middle of the season you're able to put him

1575
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 1: on your practice Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know,

1576
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,759
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm I'm waiting for my keys, my practice

1577
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: squad expert, because I don't go out there anymore. I don't.

1578
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm not used to see these guys. Yeah, I did

1579
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: think that they you know, they sort of switched some

1580
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 1: things up at times. I thought the other night with

1581
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 1: coverage because I thought Marcus Jones got caught with with

1582
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: Hopkins a couple of times and they got away with

1583
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 1: it because uh, you know, the throw was too deep

1584
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 1: and he was out of the back of the end zone.

1585
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,679
Speaker 1: And then you saw Sean Wade um for a couple

1586
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 1: of plays. I mean, I don't think Sean Wade played

1587
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: extensively um and Marcus Jones did. But I thought that

1588
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,560
Speaker 1: was a probably a nod to the size difference with

1589
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 1: with Hopkins and Marcus Jones. Uh, Sean Wade play, yeah,

1590
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:52,560
Speaker 1: just eight, just eight playschown to Hopkins Jones. Oh on

1591
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: the interception, Yeah, on the interception, that was a that

1592
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 1: was a problem. That's why I say, oh, Jay's play.

1593
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 1: That's a huge play. Not only you end up causing

1594
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,759
Speaker 1: an interception, but you may very well have prevented a touchdown.

1595
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 1: That's true. But fellas, I have a good one, all right,

1596
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 1: thanks Alduh Johnson Duxbury, Hey John, Hi, gentlemen. I'm gonna

1597
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 1: apologize for my voice. I've been sick. Okay, I didn't

1598
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: get the snap Tonal say, did um a I played

1599
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 1: more than uh born more stamps. I can give you

1600
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 1: that right here. Same vicinity Agalore played fifty seven plays,

1601
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 1: Borne played forty two. So yes, Agglore played ninety seven

1602
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: percent to seventy two blocks, including the one that on

1603
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 1: that Pia strong run, the forty plus run. So I

1604
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 1: don't know what seems to be the problem. I don't

1605
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 1: know why they wasted their time with Agli. A few

1606
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 1: times he catches the ball and can't hold on to it. Yeah,

1607
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: and Bourne was much better in the game than than Agalore,

1608
01:20:56,479 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Yeah, John Smith, how quickly can we

1609
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: get rid of this guy? Complete? I don't think you

1610
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 1: can do it next year unless you want to swallow

1611
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: some cap dollars. Yeah, it is amazing, how like they

1612
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 1: don't do any I would I would go. If they

1613
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: don't think he's part of the you know, the the solution,

1614
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 1: then I would move on. I mean, yeah, I can't,

1615
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 1: but I got after this year. Yeah, I thought after

1616
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 1: this year that his card fact was at the point

1617
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 1: where you could get rid of him and not take

1618
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: too much away head. I think that's Henry's but they

1619
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 1: give I think it was four four years, fifty million.

1620
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:33,680
Speaker 1: I mean it was him and judahm. We're kind of

1621
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 1: the Crown Jews. I like him. Yeah, all right, great

1622
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 1: talking very Christmas everybody, all right? Thanks John too? John?

1623
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 1: Do you think yeah, I mean, is it being talked

1624
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: about enough that they got to make a decision on

1625
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: Matt Jones year five? After next year? Like how big

1626
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: next year is going to be in terms of making

1627
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 1: kind of a decision you're gonna get. You're gonna get

1628
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: two thousand twenty three price if you extend him instead

1629
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 1: of two thousand and twenty five. It's just gonna be

1630
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,640
Speaker 1: a little expensive. Just I mean, just in terms of

1631
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 1: sample size, Like, I mean, this is you're you're gonna

1632
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 1: have to start to plan after next season a little bit. Yeah,

1633
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: how you feel about Matt? You good? Yeah? And you know,

1634
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 1: and I just of all his warts, and I think

1635
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: he does that he does have warts, you know. I

1636
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,600
Speaker 1: just I still don't think he's gotten, you know, a

1637
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: fair chance. I just hope next year he gets a

1638
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 1: fair chance that you know, we at least go go

1639
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 1: in feeling like he's in a better position to show

1640
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 1: what he has or doesn't have. I think it's over

1641
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 1: nineteen million dead cap if you cut him, he would think, like,

1642
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, when they do the twenty two personnel and

1643
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: John W. Smith's in there blocking, you know, like one

1644
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 1: of those times where he blocks and then leaks out

1645
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 1: and you hit him for a big play, you know,

1646
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 1: But like they don't even look at that he targets

1647
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 1: I think. I mean, he had that one awkward kind

1648
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 1: of drop and yeah, well the ball it was a

1649
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 1: bad b wasn't it. Yeah yeah, yeah, But but I

1650
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 1: agree with Mike. It's just don't like it looked all

1651
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 1: operation anything going to him. It doesn't look But I've

1652
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: seen him throw some bad balls to Remondre Stevenson and

1653
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 1: he like reaches behind his head and catches him with

1654
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: one hand. Yeah, you know. Ford and Save and a

1655
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 1: Georgia pu with Pp and Duce is brought to you

1656
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 1: by Soap with a slot keep yourself clean. After listening

1657
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 1: to this dirty, dirty podcast, nice, can you explain to

1658
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 1: me why these spoiled fans believe getting rid of the

1659
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: best coach to ever do it would make the team better.

1660
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 1: Getting rid of Brady was a mistake, Getting rid of

1661
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 1: Bill getting rid of Bill would be also be a mistake.

1662
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 1: Two wrongs don't make a right. If they could do,

1663
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 1: if they could, could you see him going to the

1664
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 1: Chargers of somewhere similar and winning a Super Bowl. Oh, Bill,

1665
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: I don't okay, I mean it's just to just hang

1666
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: it up. You think, Oh no, I don't, right, yeah, okay,

1667
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 1: check out. I guess all right. I was just you know,

1668
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 1: this is your three I mean, you know, like, look,

1669
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,600
Speaker 1: I love watching Bill Belichick. I have so much of

1670
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 1: my admiration as a coach. But like you know, it's

1671
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:51,759
Speaker 1: just it's at a certain point you have to decide

1672
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 1: how many five hundred football seasons do you want? And

1673
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: do you are you willing to take a chance on

1674
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: a young coach? And you know, we always bring up,

1675
01:23:58,160 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 1: like you know, everyone, well, who would you want if

1676
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: I said, two years ago, I wanted Nick Sirianni? What

1677
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 1: anyone has said, Well that's a good choice. You'd be like, oho,

1678
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 1: what no, stupid? Yeah, but new coaches do come up. Well.

1679
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 1: The thing that makes it difficult with Bill is, you know,

1680
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 1: if you're sitting back, if you're the Crafts and you're

1681
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 1: sitting back, okay, what's holding us back? What has kept

1682
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 1: us from you know, being better over the last three

1683
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 1: years and net and what we need to do to

1684
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 1: get better. You know, even if you say, okay, it's personnel,

1685
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 1: Well that's Bill too right, you know, and you're not

1686
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: going to be able to say, well, Bill, we want

1687
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 1: you to coach, but we're bringing in someone to pick

1688
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 1: the players. It's not going to happen. So it's it's

1689
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 1: it's the whole thing, and you have to decide if

1690
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: you think. And I don't have the answer to this.

1691
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: I'm not an expert. I'm not one of these guys

1692
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 1: that you know, knows better than the coaches. There's a

1693
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 1: lot of media guys that know better than the coaches.

1694
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 1: I'm not one of them. But you have to decide

1695
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:51,759
Speaker 1: are the schemes and whatnot? The operation what the NFL

1696
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 1: is is that? Like, is that the way the NFL

1697
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 1: is geared now? Is that the best way to move forward? Like,

1698
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: you have to figure those things out. Like Mike's point,

1699
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: I think he brought this up on Sunday about I mean,

1700
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 1: on Monday about Nick Siriani. And it's not my job

1701
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 1: to identify who that next guy is. But I think

1702
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 1: the need for like an innovative offensive mind that is

1703
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 1: more in tune with the current concepts that are coming

1704
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 1: out of college now, this is necessary and not just

1705
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: the concepts the players who are the players, personnel, is

1706
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:27,600
Speaker 1: going to be an issue. But like you say this

1707
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 1: all the time, Fred, nobody gets the personnel part of

1708
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 1: it right all the time. But I mean mindset, like

1709
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 1: these young kids, what are they like? What you know, like,

1710
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 1: attitude's change. I think he does all right with that, Yeah,

1711
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 1: I do. I think that Bill has a seventy year

1712
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 1: old guy. I think is does a better job with

1713
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,719
Speaker 1: sort of embracing the new age and technology. He said,

1714
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 1: I have to adjust. He said that years ago. But

1715
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 1: I think that he has a little bit of a

1716
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 1: disdain for the college offense that he used to talk

1717
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 1: about a lot, not as much anymore because I don't

1718
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 1: think he talks about as much anymore because he stands

1719
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 1: that this is now what's happening in the NFL, right,

1720
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 1: And I don't think he is as in tune with

1721
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 1: it as as some others. So if you want to

1722
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 1: keep him, I think you need to pair him with

1723
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 1: somebody that is a little bit more in tune with it. Yeah,

1724
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to tell you that I think we

1725
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 1: should move on. I just don't think it's ridiculous. Yeah,

1726
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 1: Like this whole notion that like he's the greatest coach

1727
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 1: of all time, Yes, there's a lot of greatest coaches

1728
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 1: of all time that you have to move on from,

1729
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 1: like like Landry and Noel and and all the rest

1730
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 1: of these greas. I just I just have yet to

1731
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 1: hear a realistic name right that well, I mean you'd

1732
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: replace him one well. I think Sean Payton is a

1733
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 1: realistic name that you can replace him with. You don't

1734
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 1: like Sean Payton, that's fine. I think Sean Payton is

1735
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 1: an excellent coach. I just think from my perspective, I've

1736
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 1: kind of made peace with the GM part of it. Um,

1737
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 1: it's been a little bit better. It hasn't been good enough,

1738
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 1: but you know, it is what it is. It comes

1739
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 1: with the package. I would just say, when you think

1740
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: of this is going to be a team any sport

1741
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 1: with the best coach around, what would you expect to

1742
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 1: that team? And when I start to say answer that question,

1743
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm seeing I'm not seeing those things in this team.

1744
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a team that beats itself. I'm seeing a

1745
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 1: team that can't correct penalties. I'm seeing a team that

1746
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure everybody's This is my point about like

1747
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 1: the greatest coach is exactly what Mike is just talking

1748
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 1: about Yeah, no one has a resume like Bill Belichick's.

1749
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 1: No one does. So if that's the be all, end all,

1750
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 1: then we're never going to make a move until he

1751
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 1: decides I'm not going to coach anymore. But I think

1752
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 1: what what Mike is telling you is there are signs

1753
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 1: that it hasn't been the same in the last three years.

1754
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 1: And it's not just like personnel, Like I know the

1755
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 1: draft is very important, but that to me is different

1756
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:43,600
Speaker 1: than personnel too. Like you draft, you're gonna draft a

1757
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: class every year, and some of those guys are gonna hit,

1758
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 1: some of them are not. They're going out and targeting

1759
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 1: guys in free agency that are NFL players, and I

1760
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:54,560
Speaker 1: think for the most part get it wrong. Like they

1761
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 1: still don't really want to do the money that it

1762
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 1: takes to do that, which I think is antiquated because

1763
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 1: the cap is rising so great that it's not as

1764
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 1: prohibitive as it was fifteen years ago to waste twenty

1765
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 1: million and capped dollars on a wide receiver. Instead, they

1766
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 1: want to do ten million in capp dollars on two

1767
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 1: wide receivers who can't play as well as that twenty

1768
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,560
Speaker 1: million dollar guy. And that's always been the way that

1769
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 1: they do it, and I think it's Bill's philosophy. Yeah,

1770
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 1: like it's it's you know, ponies over the horse. Another

1771
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 1: piece of mind for me is getting better at the

1772
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 1: end of the year. You've been coaching these this team

1773
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 1: for how many months? At the end of the year

1774
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 1: in November, in December, like the best coach team they're

1775
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 1: gonna be They're gonna be better at the end of

1776
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 1: the season than they were at the beginning. And you're

1777
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 1: going on since twenty eighteen. This is four seasons now

1778
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:47,679
Speaker 1: where it looks worse, it gets worse. And I will

1779
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 1: speak for Mike because Mike and I talk about the

1780
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 1: situation a lot. We don't want to move on. We're

1781
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 1: not ready to say that he can't do it anymore.

1782
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,520
Speaker 1: We got to get rid of this guy. He's a dinosaur.

1783
01:28:57,880 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 1: I just think it's worth talking about some of these

1784
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 1: other things that Mike just brought up. Those are not

1785
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 1: cheap shots, like late late collapses, sloppy penalties, very inconsistent

1786
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: special teams, all things that we used to tie to

1787
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:16,599
Speaker 1: the greatness of Bill Belichick. Right, the middle class, that's

1788
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 1: why they win. Okay, but you know, but that those

1789
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 1: things on strengths anymore? Who schools? Yeah, yeah, okay, that

1790
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 1: like this is my point that I mean that that

1791
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,640
Speaker 1: illustrates my point perfectly. You're still doing it the way

1792
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 1: you've always done it, but you don't have somebody that

1793
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 1: you used to have. Yeah, so instead of going twelve

1794
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 1: and four are better every year, you're five hundred every year.

1795
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:46,719
Speaker 1: Nate and Northeast Pennsylvania. Two questions for you guys, possible

1796
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 1: conspiracy ish thought. One. We all know that Bill lays

1797
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 1: into players pretty hard during film review for poor play

1798
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,560
Speaker 1: execution and other mistakes. Do you think that Bill is

1799
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 1: equally as brutal on coaches in private meetings for the

1800
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 1: co coaching errors or poor play calls that we've seen

1801
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: over the last few weeks. That's the first question I

1802
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 1: would say, Yes, So just out of curiosity, what are

1803
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 1: the coaching errors that we've seen over the last few weeks. Oh,

1804
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 1: we would know what they are, but he would like, like,

1805
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 1: we don't really know if they are or not, but

1806
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 1: he knows if they're coaching errors. Not getting the plan

1807
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 1: of time. Yeah, that would be something that I think

1808
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 1: he was very critical of Monday publicly. We need to

1809
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 1: get the plays in on time. That's what he said. Yeah,

1810
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Like so, I'm sure I'm sure that Patricia

1811
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 1: heard about somebody caught heat for that. But I'm talking

1812
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 1: about on the field, like like the wide receiver coach

1813
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:38,560
Speaker 1: isn't responsible for things that happened during the course of

1814
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:42,639
Speaker 1: the game in general, Like what are the coaching errors

1815
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 1: that we're talking about, I don't know, communication on the

1816
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 1: offensive line. I mean the coaching errors are handing the

1817
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:49,719
Speaker 1: ball off and the last player of the first half

1818
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 1: when you're already in field goal range instead of that's

1819
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 1: a build decision. Yeah, no, I'm sure, Like when he

1820
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:59,639
Speaker 1: says we need to coach better, he probably where you're

1821
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 1: going with this though. I mean I think it's a

1822
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 1: good I just like it's a good way to drill

1823
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 1: down again. I know I'm a broken record, I get it,

1824
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 1: But like Bill can do no wrong. Like you just

1825
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 1: illustrated about fifteen different things that haven't been as great

1826
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 1: the last three years as they used to be. That

1827
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: we're Bill related, and you know we're talking about this Bill,

1828
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 1: you know, get on the coaches, the false starts and

1829
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 1: all these things. These aren't like that's the players in him,

1830
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,719
Speaker 1: Like the structure of your team is the head coach

1831
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:35,840
Speaker 1: and then the players not executing. Like I'm not telling

1832
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 1: you that there's never been a bad play call offensively

1833
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 1: or defensively, but the game plans and the way it's

1834
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:42,640
Speaker 1: set up. They didn't throw twelve screens the other night

1835
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 1: because Maypeatrician decided that's that's what we're doing, right, is

1836
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 1: my point. I guess yeah. I think to Paul's point too, like,

1837
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 1: and I think back to the to the on nine

1838
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 1: documentary where you actually saw Bill in the room. That's

1839
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 1: where he said, you get up on Welker, you take

1840
01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 1: away Moss deep, and we're done, you know. But I

1841
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 1: also think that there's an element of being a head

1842
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 1: coach that you're in it with the assistant coaches and

1843
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 1: you do have to take responsibly for him, and you

1844
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:07,680
Speaker 1: can't just sit there and chew out like to your

1845
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 1: point pull the wide receiver coach about you know, not

1846
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 1: coaching up a guy like if a guy is unprepared, maybe,

1847
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:16,599
Speaker 1: but you know, overall, just little in game decisions. It's players.

1848
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:19,640
Speaker 1: That's That's a good example. If you have like a

1849
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 1: backup that has to go in the game and he's

1850
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 1: just woefully unprepared. That's on a position coach. Your job

1851
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 1: is to get all your players ready to go. What

1852
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 1: about I just don't know what you're doing. That's on

1853
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 1: the coach. Well, what about like you know, um substitution problems,

1854
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:37,720
Speaker 1: like you know, certain situations yea, and that probably preparation,

1855
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:39,600
Speaker 1: you know, like something where you're not ready to go.

1856
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 1: You don't know what what's gonna who that we're gonna

1857
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 1: match with their personnel if they go on eleven, we're

1858
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 1: going with this like that. I think that's a that's

1859
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 1: a fair thing to like. That to me is like

1860
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 1: getting the play in on time. You have to get

1861
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 1: your personnel groups in on time and the right ones

1862
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 1: for the right situation. I still feel like Kendrick Bourne

1863
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 1: needs to be utilized more. The diving sideline catch for

1864
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 1: a first down the past Sunday was a sneaky clutch play.

1865
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,719
Speaker 1: Last season, he was Mac's second favorite target behind Myers.

1866
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 1: Considering the off field problems he's had with coaches, What

1867
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 1: chances do you get Born being on the team next year?

1868
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 1: Fifty fifty? Yeah. I mean they don't have a lot

1869
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 1: of depth and I and I and I also speak

1870
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 1: to Mac guys that you you don't you don't need

1871
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,560
Speaker 1: to cut Kendrick Bourne. So are you gonna upset the

1872
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 1: apple cart with one more? You know? I mean like

1873
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 1: he's a Mac guy. Does that mean he's gone? Like

1874
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,720
Speaker 1: it's a balancing act because you can't just say, oh,

1875
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 1: Macles players x y z, we're resigning x y z.

1876
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 1: But you also have the balance of, well, we're gonna

1877
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 1: let Jacobe walk the strength in numbers, right, if I

1878
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 1: get rid of the guys that are with him, we

1879
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:53,759
Speaker 1: can start again new guys. Yeah, I think it's fifty fifty.

1880
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 1: I think the reason why I would say fifty to

1881
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 1: stay that high is because of what Mike said. I

1882
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 1: just think that depth is an issue, and I have

1883
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 1: seen a lot of these examples over the is fred

1884
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:05,839
Speaker 1: We can count them, you know, whether it's high profile

1885
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:09,640
Speaker 1: guys like ty Law or Logan Mankins, Like you like

1886
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 1: that guy's play, that guy's played his last game as

1887
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 1: a Patriot. Well what did you say? So what's up Bill?

1888
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:17,720
Speaker 1: You know with Ty You know, like, I've seen so

1889
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 1: many of these things play out, and you think there's

1890
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 1: no way Bill's ever gonna have that guy back, And

1891
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 1: there he is the next year, he's back. I could

1892
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 1: see that with what was after on nine though, because

1893
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 1: I do get a little bit of an on I

1894
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 1: vibe with this team. If I just can't get this

1895
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 1: team to play that, I think it's a very you know,

1896
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 1: and I know that there was a little crew right

1897
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 1: that was late for practice. I mean I think that

1898
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 1: there was like a little dissension squad gy Sean Springs,

1899
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 1: I think sad as well in uh the defensive lineman

1900
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 1: Derek Burgess. And so they's a great memory, Paul Dayless Thomas,

1901
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 1: I hate you. I barely remember Shawan Springs, but Derek Burgess, Wow,

1902
01:34:58,240 --> 01:34:59,760
Speaker 1: that was I mean I think they got him like

1903
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:04,639
Speaker 1: maybe late in either Thomas out of the line about

1904
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 1: who was and so when they got out of that

1905
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 1: season though, they cut a bunch of those guys right,

1906
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 1: like I mean pretty much and that was a bad

1907
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 1: miss that he had. That really surprising though, Like I mean,

1908
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 1: Dailies Thomas was did they cut him after O nine?

1909
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 1: That may have been his last year? Oh seven or

1910
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:25,640
Speaker 1: eight or nine? That may have been a last year. Um,

1911
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 1: but that mix, No, you didn't know it beforehand, but

1912
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 1: you could see it like there was games they had

1913
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:34,640
Speaker 1: some bad guys in that team. Brandon McGowan was a

1914
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 1: bad fit. Um in that locker room, Um they had you.

1915
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 1: You could see it. And Fred, Fred and I and

1916
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:43,560
Speaker 1: Andy at the time would talk about little things that

1917
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:45,879
Speaker 1: you'd see in the locker room. You're like, that's not Patriots,

1918
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 1: Like stuff like I remember Sean Springs like just unabashedly

1919
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,600
Speaker 1: throwing and I forget who it was, but throwing the

1920
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 1: safety under the bus on a play that he got

1921
01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 1: beat deep. Yeah, it's like looking at the guys. Yeah,

1922
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 1: I was supposed to have help deep there or something

1923
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:04,639
Speaker 1: like that. And I was like things that you never

1924
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:08,799
Speaker 1: fingerplane just like this year. Yeah, like you know they

1925
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 1: know our plays. I know, I'm you know what I mean,

1926
01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 1: the same stuff. This is still Nate. I know I'm

1927
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 1: reading way too much into this, but I find it

1928
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 1: curious how Mac refers to matt Patricia as Mattie P.

1929
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's just a nickname type relationship they share,

1930
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 1: but you don't see any other coaches referred to by

1931
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 1: anything other than Coach Blank by any of the players,

1932
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:31,600
Speaker 1: including Mac. Is there a lack of respect for Mattie P.

1933
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 1: That's not true. I think I'd be more thrown off

1934
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 1: if he was calling them, Matt, I think everybody i've

1935
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 1: heard it calls them, calls them Maddy p. I mean

1936
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 1: it gets Bill, but I think they just call Mayo Mayo, right. Yeah.

1937
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 1: I don't even think they call them coach. I don't

1938
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 1: think that any players in general only refer to their

1939
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 1: coaches as coach. I've heard them call them by names

1940
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 1: for all the time I've been here. Even Bill, Yeah,

1941
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 1: even Bill. A lot of times they call Bill. Yeah, yeah,

1942
01:36:57,640 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 1: Corey Dillon. Now that's not a good example, because that

1943
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 1: was disrespect. Go ask Bill. I don't give up. The

1944
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 1: only guy that ever scared me in the locker room,

1945
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 1: like legitimately scared me from my life, Ted Washington was

1946
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 1: as intimidating as they come. Corey Dillon frightened me. James

1947
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 1: pettigrew the most interesting Patriots fan in the world. Rites,

1948
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 1: And given the change of preseason and how much time

1949
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:24,760
Speaker 1: you get with the players in season, is Bill a

1950
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 1: coach not able to influence players as much as he

1951
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 1: did back in the day with the two Days and

1952
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:34,639
Speaker 1: the Giants. Yeah, it's the same with everybody. Yeah, it's

1953
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:36,680
Speaker 1: not like we get less than any other team. Matt

1954
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 1: Light thinks that's why the league. I do think that

1955
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 1: there's a point there, but I don't think that it's

1956
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 1: it's you know, hampering the ability of coaches to you know,

1957
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:47,639
Speaker 1: put their mark on their teams. I don't know. Yeah,

1958
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 1: I think it's I mean, I can understand the point

1959
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 1: because you think your coach is better than everybody else

1960
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:57,639
Speaker 1: is so his lost time with the team affects him more.

1961
01:37:58,200 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 1: But I think you can just as easily make the

1962
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 1: on our argument to that with he's better than everybody else,

1963
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 1: so he shouldn't need as much time, right, And there's

1964
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 1: and there's still so many so much time in the day,

1965
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 1: like how much is it is actually working with the guys,

1966
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 1: how much is it of coming up with it? And

1967
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, having that to be able. One of Bill's

1968
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:17,440
Speaker 1: strengths in the past, one of his superpowers was adjusting

1969
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 1: to you know, different circumstances. And you know, so if

1970
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 1: there was anyone in Bill's prime that could take a

1971
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 1: change and adjust it in their favor, like find the

1972
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:31,680
Speaker 1: silver lining, find a way a loophole, find a way

1973
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 1: to like make it work in your advantage, it would

1974
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 1: be Bill. Yeah, I mean, I'd probably on that specific instance,

1975
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 1: I'd probably go into a little bit of having experience

1976
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 1: with a certain quarterback for a long time and knowing

1977
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 1: together what to do against certain things that are happening.

1978
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 1: When you have that experience with somebody, you know you

1979
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:50,600
Speaker 1: can reach into. I mean, we've talked about all the

1980
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 1: time of hey, remember this, we did this against this,

1981
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:54,600
Speaker 1: and they're doing this right now, so let's go to that.

1982
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 1: But it's you know, it's just I think it's easy

1983
01:38:58,080 --> 01:38:59,640
Speaker 1: just to say, well, he's the greatest coach of all time,

1984
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 1: or the Patriots the greatest coach team in the NFL

1985
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 1: right now. Well, yeah, I mean that's what I said.

1986
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 1: If you just go by that, you'll never even contemplate

1987
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 1: making any moves. And I think Robert Kraft doesn't operate that.

1988
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:13,640
Speaker 1: I think Robert Craft is always wondering, how can I

1989
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:17,200
Speaker 1: get better? Yep, Neil and New Brunswick. John O. Smith

1990
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 1: charges two hundred and eighty eight thousand dollars to our

1991
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 1: cap per reception this year. Next year, at his current

1992
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 1: cap hit, it will be five hundred and eighty seven

1993
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 1: thousand per reception. That's got to be one of the

1994
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 1: worst free agent signings in the history of the NFL.

1995
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 1: I really hope mister Kraft still has the pulse of

1996
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:35,640
Speaker 1: his team's fan base. If we continue to play like

1997
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 1: we did Monday, we're probably an eight and nine team

1998
01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:41,240
Speaker 1: with furious fans who are getting tired of waiting for

1999
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 1: a contender. It is not even Super Bowl or bust.

2000
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 1: It's just give us a team that we believe could

2001
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 1: compete and be entertaining. Bill needs someone to be his GM.

2002
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:52,759
Speaker 1: If I had the power to change one thing about

2003
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 1: this team, it would be to hire a GM, not

2004
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 1: to hurt Bill, but to help him. It's actually childish

2005
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 1: that Bill can't let anyone else us in his sandbox.

2006
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:04,880
Speaker 1: What would be your one change if you had the power. Yeah,

2007
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,679
Speaker 1: I think, like Paul said, bringing bring in some young minds,

2008
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 1: young you know, offensive mind that he gives you some excitement,

2009
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 1: that Max found something that you know, a guy that's

2010
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 1: innovative and interesting and you know, but I mean, they're

2011
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 1: not going to make that guy OC So I mean

2012
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:19,720
Speaker 1: I'd even just be like slightly intrigued if they made

2013
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:21,600
Speaker 1: him the quarterbacks coach or you know, just had some

2014
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:24,720
Speaker 1: kind of person on this on the staff where you

2015
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 1: felt like, hey, they're stocking the shelves for guys that

2016
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:28,680
Speaker 1: are going to be here for a little bit that

2017
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:30,680
Speaker 1: can develop, you know, and then I mean, you know,

2018
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:33,640
Speaker 1: to be honest, I mean, I want Belichick's knowledge to

2019
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 1: be passed along, just not as a Patriots fan, but

2020
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 1: as you know football fan, the more people that get

2021
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 1: to work with him, and you know, I mean just

2022
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 1: you know, going back last week, Kingsbury talking about, you know,

2023
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 1: he's here a year, but he still looks at it

2024
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 1: as like a year that he like learned how to

2025
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:49,519
Speaker 1: play football, and he said, and I grew up around coaches,

2026
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:52,000
Speaker 1: So you know, just the amount of respect that people

2027
01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:54,639
Speaker 1: have for you know, him and the job he's done,

2028
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, I I am still you know,

2029
01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 1: aware of that, and you know, hope he can hope

2030
01:40:59,880 --> 01:41:02,320
Speaker 1: he can pass it along to others. Christian the Cuban

2031
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 1: from Charlotte, North Carolina. I was a Bill defender until

2032
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 1: up to the Bill's game. I think Bill going to

2033
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:11,599
Speaker 1: bring back Mattie p again and still not go get

2034
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 1: a stud either. I think he means is going to

2035
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 1: Bill is not going to go get a stud wide receiver,

2036
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:20,719
Speaker 1: and he's not going to draft that stud. He doesn't

2037
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:22,960
Speaker 1: believe in that three years is enough for me and

2038
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:25,240
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the fan base and we

2039
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:27,479
Speaker 1: need a change if we want to catch up with

2040
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:30,600
Speaker 1: the league. Personally, I would love Flores to be the

2041
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:33,240
Speaker 1: next head coach. And ps, I think you need to

2042
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,599
Speaker 1: make another poll regarding the coach and put me down

2043
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 1: for a new one. Please, Well, that would be more

2044
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 1: of an offseason thing. I think Flora, like everyone thinks

2045
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 1: that Flores is this great coach. I don't know about that.

2046
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:47,760
Speaker 1: I think Flores was overrated at Miami. Yeah as a

2047
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 1: head coach, yeah right. I think he did a good job,

2048
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 1: but I think we're sort of influenced by the fact

2049
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 1: that he owned the Patriots. Yeah, but he didn't own

2050
01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:01,080
Speaker 1: everybody else. Yea the problem. I mean, they lost like

2051
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 1: seven in a role last year when you know bad teams.

2052
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 1: They lost too along the way. So Mike got a

2053
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,920
Speaker 1: chance to answer that. I thought that the previous email

2054
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 1: was excellent and Mike got a change. If you could

2055
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:16,040
Speaker 1: change something, you said a young, innovative, offensive mind. I

2056
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 1: think that's a great suggestion to me. I have something

2057
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:23,320
Speaker 1: a little bit more like I guess, subjective and outside

2058
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:26,240
Speaker 1: the box. It's just like more along the lines of

2059
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 1: what this emailer just talked about a change in philosophy

2060
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 1: is to what Bill thinks you need, and like this

2061
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 1: change in economic philosophy, I would say, you don't have

2062
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:39,479
Speaker 1: to spend more money because it's the cap. You're spending

2063
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:43,640
Speaker 1: the same amount of money. But that the unwillingness to

2064
01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 1: get the star because he costs too much and you

2065
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:49,920
Speaker 1: don't want one guy taken up that much. That like

2066
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 1: philosophy I wish could change. Yeah, you know, I wish

2067
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 1: I didn't think, well, if mac Jones pans out, we're

2068
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 1: never going to give him forty million a year because

2069
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 1: we don't believe in that. I wish I didn't think

2070
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 1: like that, right, But that's how I think. Yeah, that's

2071
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 1: what I would change. If I could change anything. Bill

2072
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:11,040
Speaker 1: can stay, and Bill can stay as the GM. I

2073
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:13,640
Speaker 1: just wish that he would be more open to the

2074
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 1: economics of the changing economics of the game. Yeah, you know, Paul,

2075
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 1: I was just thinking a little bit about you know,

2076
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 1: and we've talked about this before, of not really having

2077
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,639
Speaker 1: respect for the college game, or you know, just maybe

2078
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:27,360
Speaker 1: being dismissive of that. I kind of tie it to

2079
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 1: to like the defensive philosophy, where you don't really try

2080
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:33,599
Speaker 1: to match speed with speed. You try to get big,

2081
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 1: tough NFL players to beat up on these little college

2082
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 1: RinkyDink systems, you know, like you know, you know what

2083
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, Like it seems like they they

2084
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 1: don't really respect it and they just want to outphysical

2085
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 1: those teams, and I just don't think they can. They

2086
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:49,599
Speaker 1: can't anymore because of the rules. They try to fool.

2087
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 1: You used to be able to do that. Like, let's

2088
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 1: see if I can confute, Like I'm not gonna just

2089
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:57,600
Speaker 1: try to like blitz and get the quarterback off a

2090
01:43:57,720 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 1: spot and do that kind of stuff. I'm not going

2091
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 1: to lock up with my best cornerback anymore. You know,

2092
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fool him. I'm gonna bait him. And then

2093
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 1: you see like Colt McCoy, a journeyman stiff who's like

2094
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 1: fifteen games under five hundred and a handful of games

2095
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:15,560
Speaker 1: that he started going up and down the field on

2096
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 1: you in the first half, Like what are we doing?

2097
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:23,479
Speaker 1: Emerson Nolan writes in this Sunday's game against the Raiders

2098
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 1: is the definition of an unstoppable force meets an immovable object.

2099
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 1: A team that physically pukes all over themselves and can't

2100
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:32,759
Speaker 1: keep a lead, goes up against a team that physically

2101
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 1: can't play from behind a truly intriguing edge of your

2102
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 1: seat showdown. Can't, for the life of me see why

2103
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:41,759
Speaker 1: the NFL flex the game out of prime time. Jokes aside,

2104
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:44,599
Speaker 1: Mike and I talked about that upstairs too, jokes aside.

2105
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 1: I love Marcus Jones. I think he's been the best

2106
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:49,400
Speaker 1: rookie so far for the Patriots, but I want to

2107
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:52,760
Speaker 1: see him in punt returns, in at corner. He's certainly explosive,

2108
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:54,960
Speaker 1: but I don't understand why we have to have Marcus

2109
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 1: going in motion across the formation and running routes at

2110
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:00,560
Speaker 1: receiver when they just drafted a hy receiver in the

2111
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:02,719
Speaker 1: second round that was supposed to be that kind of threat.

2112
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 1: Why aren't they scheming up Tai Kwan to do that.

2113
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:08,800
Speaker 1: I know he had a few catches Monday, but they

2114
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 1: don't seem to do anything different to get him in

2115
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:13,880
Speaker 1: space where he can be dangerous. We shouldn't need a

2116
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 1: rookie cornerback stepping into that role. As exciting as he

2117
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 1: may be, I'm still rooting for the Patriots to make

2118
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 1: the big playoff push and to get it together, but

2119
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 1: it's just so hard to watch this year. I love

2120
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:27,080
Speaker 1: the show and if I don't talk to you guys before,

2121
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:29,840
Speaker 1: then have a very happy holiday. Thank you. Yes, Can

2122
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 1: I play Devil's Advocate with that Marcus Jones thing a

2123
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:34,599
Speaker 1: little bit? Please? What did they do to get Marcus

2124
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:38,519
Speaker 1: Jones in space? They put him in motion, a lot

2125
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 1: of motion. How'd they get him in space? They threw

2126
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:44,640
Speaker 1: the ball to him. I think they've thrown it to

2127
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 1: him four times so far. Right, Where did they all

2128
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 1: go behind the line of scrimmage? Yeah, it's not in space?

2129
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So if you're doing that to Taekwon Thornton,

2130
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 1: which I would argue, that's kind of what they do

2131
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 1: with him. They run him on little shallow crosses and

2132
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:01,800
Speaker 1: you know, quick slants and whatnot. Like they haven't gotten

2133
01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones's space, but Marcus Jones made something out of it. Yeah, Well,

2134
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:09,680
Speaker 1: like Marcus Jones, Yeah, split two guys and went forty yar.

2135
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 1: I haven't seen shiftiness in Orton's game. He's a great

2136
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:19,640
Speaker 1: straight line runner, but he's almost like Cooks where he

2137
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 1: never made anyone miss in the open lace. They've thrown

2138
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 1: a couple of those little swings in bubbles to Tae

2139
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 1: Kwon Thornton. He looks like, you know, and Mike and

2140
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 1: I hold our breath. It looks like he's gonna get

2141
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 1: broken in half. Yeah, let's go to the phones. Bennett

2142
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:35,720
Speaker 1: is in California. What's up, Bennett? Hey, how are you

2143
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 1: guys doing good? Thanks for holding on? Uh So Belichick, Um,

2144
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:50,400
Speaker 1: do you think he's more concerned about his legacy as

2145
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 1: far as you know, breaking that record, more concerned than

2146
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 1: what what's it in comparison to you? I mean, well,

2147
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 1: I mean, if you say more concerned than doing the

2148
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 1: right thing for the team, No, I think I think

2149
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:08,240
Speaker 1: his main concern is winning and doing the right thing

2150
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:12,519
Speaker 1: for the team. I think so yep. I just don't understand,

2151
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:14,680
Speaker 1: like how you can be concerned with the record and

2152
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 1: that doesn't translate to wanting to win games. Yeah. Well,

2153
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:24,280
Speaker 1: I mean, like, because well, everything with Brady, you know. Um, well,

2154
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 1: but if he was right, if he's worried about the

2155
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 1: Brady thing, he'd want to win even more to prove

2156
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 1: that it's Well, I would argue, if he was completely

2157
01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 1: fixated on the record, he wouldn't let Brady go. Well yeah, well,

2158
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:36,559
Speaker 1: unless I don't know about that. I could argue about

2159
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:38,400
Speaker 1: on that one. Why what do you think that he

2160
01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:41,599
Speaker 1: would have thought gave him a better chance to win

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01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 1: to that record faster if he holding onto a veteran

2162
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 1: quarterback who was winning or starting over. That's the thing

2163
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:49,639
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not convinced that he Like, I think

2164
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 1: this is going against logic Brady's career, and I think

2165
01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 1: every at nineteen, he's not going to keep doings. I

2166
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 1: think he's like, I don't think that he thinks he

2167
01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:01,479
Speaker 1: could have kept winning. Of course he thought in the

2168
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:04,000
Speaker 1: in the short term Brady would be the answer. But

2169
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 1: how much longer is he going to do what he said? Right?

2170
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,400
Speaker 1: And this could be the last So if he was

2171
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 1: only concerned with the record, he would have stuck with

2172
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 1: the short term guarantee. Yeah, maybe this is like a

2173
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 1: defensive bill, right, I know, Like, I don't think that

2174
01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 1: was his be all in goal. I think he's trying

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01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 1: to win games and trying to build a team. If

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01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 1: he was solely concerned with just himself, and I'm not

2177
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 1: saying he doesn't concern himself with the record. He does. Yeah, absolutely,

2178
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:32,080
Speaker 1: Bennett is right. But if you just want to break

2179
01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:36,439
Speaker 1: the record and you have a Hall of Fame quarterback

2180
01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:39,880
Speaker 1: who's still playing. Well, yeah, you're gonna stick with that

2181
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:41,600
Speaker 1: as long as you can, because all I all I

2182
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 1: care about is breaking this record. And when I break

2183
01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 1: the record, I mean Brady's gone, I'll be gone. Who cares? Right,

2184
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:50,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a better alternative than starting over with

2185
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:53,240
Speaker 1: a rookie. I'm trying to do the math of, like, theoretically,

2186
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:55,439
Speaker 1: how many more wins he could have after these three

2187
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 1: seasons if he if he had had I mean, I

2188
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:00,760
Speaker 1: think much closer. I think he's any away right now.

2189
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:02,479
Speaker 1: I mean you could make an argument that he'd have

2190
01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 1: it if he didn't move on from Brady, or at

2191
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:17,679
Speaker 1: least it'd be ten away. Yeah, been awesome, awesome, I'm sorry, Bennett,

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01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:20,479
Speaker 1: What was the last part? Oh? No, I mean you

2193
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:22,680
Speaker 1: gotta think about like cowny years he has left, right,

2194
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:26,599
Speaker 1: you know, if he's thinking about breaking that record, it's

2195
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:29,479
Speaker 1: you know, it's I can go another three year, three

2196
01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:31,760
Speaker 1: four years. Yeah, I think it's gonna be another three

2197
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 1: seasons after this, more than likely. But things can change

2198
01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:39,040
Speaker 1: real quick, you can. You know, all of a sudden,

2199
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 1: they rip off thirteen wins next year and you're like, oh,

2200
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:44,719
Speaker 1: that's two more years seventeen wins. All right, thanks Bennett.

2201
01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:48,760
Speaker 1: Let's go to Sam in Florida. Hey Sam, that includes playoffs? Two.

2202
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:52,640
Speaker 1: Hey guys, can you hear me? Okay? Okay, terrific. So

2203
01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:54,639
Speaker 1: I just had a real quick fun fact I wanted

2204
01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:56,799
Speaker 1: to share because I was re listening to the draft shows.

2205
01:49:58,000 --> 01:49:59,640
Speaker 1: I don't really like. I don't like where youse go,

2206
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 1: what they were, I don't like where these good. No,

2207
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 1: it's all good, it's all good. I listened to the

2208
01:50:05,479 --> 01:50:07,720
Speaker 1: draft shows and I realized that the question had came

2209
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 1: up about why there are as trolleys on an airplane

2210
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:12,679
Speaker 1: when you cannot smoke on an airplane. And that answer

2211
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:14,720
Speaker 1: is because no, I don't think anyone's answered it since

2212
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:17,320
Speaker 1: that question was asked. The answer is, although it's illegal

2213
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 1: to smoke on an airplane, if somebody decides to break

2214
01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:21,840
Speaker 1: the wall and do that, they want you to have

2215
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:25,120
Speaker 1: a safe spot to put your cigarette out it. I

2216
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 1: just thought it they were too cheap to replace the armrests. Yeah, right,

2217
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:31,680
Speaker 1: we designed them. This is what they It's the key

2218
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:34,200
Speaker 1: to plane safe, even though it's against the wall. And

2219
01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 1: then so my my bill take I thought really long

2220
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:40,559
Speaker 1: about this face, and I realized that if I were

2221
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:43,240
Speaker 1: the Craft so this was just my perspective as mister Kraft.

2222
01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 1: If we have the Cam year, the Mac year one,

2223
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:49,360
Speaker 1: and now the Mac year two as is winding down,

2224
01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:55,080
Speaker 1: that will be three years of not good, not really improving.

2225
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:57,240
Speaker 1: Even though they were a playoff team last year. It

2226
01:50:57,439 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 1: was kind of sadum. And then the way this year

2227
01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 1: is going. You've had three years with three different types

2228
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:08,000
Speaker 1: of hurdles, and if I'm craps in the first couple

2229
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:09,840
Speaker 1: of years, it's like, you know what, Bill, You've done

2230
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:11,840
Speaker 1: this for so long, Okay, I'll trust the Bill way.

2231
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:14,599
Speaker 1: And then and then this year we bring in Joe,

2232
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:17,320
Speaker 1: Judge and Patricia and it's like, dude, what are we doing?

2233
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:21,160
Speaker 1: Like this is worse and confusing, and we might be

2234
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 1: losing players, you know what is going on? And so

2235
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 1: I think, for me, I can't believe I'm saying this,

2236
01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:30,040
Speaker 1: But if the year ends without any sign of improvement

2237
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:33,559
Speaker 1: or life, or we win four of the last whatever,

2238
01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:36,639
Speaker 1: or just some type of thing that you can see

2239
01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 1: or measure, I think Bill's gotta go. I mean, I

2240
01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 1: don't know. He is the greatest of all time. And

2241
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 1: if we just hang on to that forever and then

2242
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:46,080
Speaker 1: like Paul has sent a thousand times, but we'll never

2243
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:48,360
Speaker 1: let him go because he's the best. But I think

2244
01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:50,080
Speaker 1: Mike just said he's the best of all time. But

2245
01:51:50,120 --> 01:51:53,280
Speaker 1: are the best coach team right now? Absolutely not, and

2246
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:55,519
Speaker 1: they have not been for a few years. And I

2247
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:58,680
Speaker 1: don't really care about the Brady versus Bill argument. It's

2248
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 1: just lately Bill has I think, been doing the Bill way,

2249
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:06,920
Speaker 1: which might be posting the team's success. And when that

2250
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:09,519
Speaker 1: happens in my job, I get fired. When you guys

2251
01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:12,559
Speaker 1: do that, you get fired. I think the Craft should

2252
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 1: really look into what the future looks like with Bill

2253
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 1: if he's not willing to budge on an offensive assistant

2254
01:52:18,439 --> 01:52:22,120
Speaker 1: with some GM help with explaining as high as like

2255
01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 1: before just bringing Mattie p and it just doesn't make

2256
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:26,680
Speaker 1: sense to me. And that's my opinion. I appreciate you

2257
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:28,320
Speaker 1: guys letting me go with it, and I'll just kind

2258
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 1: of take all that whole year than all the good

2259
01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:32,760
Speaker 1: work guys that I'm stay holiday. Thanks Sam, Thanks Sam.

2260
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 1: I just hope it at least seems like it comes

2261
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:37,599
Speaker 1: if at this word to happen that it came from Bill,

2262
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 1: because I don't think it's setting up for success if

2263
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:42,240
Speaker 1: we all feel like, well, mister Kraft forced him to

2264
01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:45,160
Speaker 1: get an offensive coordinator, you know, and I agree, I'm

2265
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 1: just going to carry the drama right over into next season.

2266
01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:50,479
Speaker 1: All this stuff is, you know, and you want it

2267
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:57,479
Speaker 1: to be Bill's idea at least as you know. Can

2268
01:52:57,479 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 1: you imagine the guy coming in, No, that Bill doesn't

2269
01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:04,519
Speaker 1: want you, right, Yeah, and that this is like my

2270
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:07,400
Speaker 1: whole point. Like people said, like, well, if mister Kraft

2271
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:09,800
Speaker 1: goes to Bill O'Brien and says, you know, Bill is

2272
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 1: only going to be around for another couple of years,

2273
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:13,240
Speaker 1: then you would be in the line to take Yeah,

2274
01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:16,400
Speaker 1: ho's that work? Right, You're gonna be Bill Belichick with

2275
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:20,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna reproce nobody watched his Game of Thrones. You're

2276
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 1: gonna replace me, little Finger, Right, You're gonna replace me,

2277
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 1: George and Madison new Jersey writes in Sam Darnold. Since

2278
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:31,000
Speaker 1: coming off i R, where he incidentally grew a beard,

2279
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:33,639
Speaker 1: is currently two and zero with twenty six point five

2280
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:36,240
Speaker 1: points per game, three hundred and thirty nine yards per

2281
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 1: game in a ninety three point six passer rating. I've

2282
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 1: mentioned this in the past, that Mac looks like he's

2283
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:44,480
Speaker 1: twelve years old when he's wearing his helmet and all seriousness.

2284
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:47,160
Speaker 1: Do you think his deep game and red zone woes

2285
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:49,840
Speaker 1: would improve if he grew a mustache. I don't think

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01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 1: he can. I don't think he's got the I don't

2287
01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:54,240
Speaker 1: think he's got the jeans for the facial hair. I

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01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:57,760
Speaker 1: don't know that'd obviously he's kidding around. Yeah, that's also

2289
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 1: just picturing like somebody on fourly who decided to light

2290
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:03,280
Speaker 1: up a cigarette on a plane without any ass trays,

2291
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:04,960
Speaker 1: being like, you gotta put it out? Where do I

2292
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:08,160
Speaker 1: put it out? What? What? What? What? Where do I go?

2293
01:54:08,479 --> 01:54:11,320
Speaker 1: But obviously I haven't. I haven't seen any ass trays

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01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:13,320
Speaker 1: on it. I haven't. Don't think I have either, No,

2295
01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:16,120
Speaker 1: but I did. I have to admit, like, if I

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01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:18,960
Speaker 1: slid one, I would immediately think that's an old plane,

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01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:24,280
Speaker 1: right right? Oh? Yeah, that's that's not inspiring confidence, you know. Uh, Paul,

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01:54:24,439 --> 01:54:28,439
Speaker 1: I like that explanation better, Paul and Drake it. I

2299
01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:31,360
Speaker 1: know there's hesitation rating this year's draft class given such

2300
01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:33,520
Speaker 1: a small sample size, But what do you think of

2301
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 1: the free agents we've acquired this year? Paul, has Parker

2302
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:39,560
Speaker 1: been about what you expected? I remember you not thinking

2303
01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:41,880
Speaker 1: highly of the acquisition at the time and curious what

2304
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:44,360
Speaker 1: your thoughts are thus far. Yeah, he's been what I expected.

2305
01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 1: I my guess is below what you guys. I thought

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01:54:46,640 --> 01:54:48,880
Speaker 1: he'd be more consistent. Yeah. Yeah, I think you've seen

2307
01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:51,120
Speaker 1: glimpses of some of it. Like I said, I think

2308
01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 1: you take out one hundred and fifty yard game and

2309
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:55,000
Speaker 1: you don't get much. He should be your number one receiver,

2310
01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:58,960
Speaker 1: and from from performance game to game he's not. He's not.

2311
01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:02,000
Speaker 1: And then injury issues that Paul talked about. I mean,

2312
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 1: you don't want to you don't want to dock him

2313
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:06,440
Speaker 1: for a concussion, but that just happened. Yeah, I'm talking

2314
01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 1: he missed other game injury. He missed two other games

2315
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 1: for an injury, that's true. Yeah, I mean only one officially,

2316
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 1: but he played one play in one. Yeah. Also interested

2317
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:19,120
Speaker 1: in your thoughts about Peppers both on defense and special teams.

2318
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 1: In the Bills game, it looked like he was blocking

2319
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:24,440
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones's running lane and prevented us from returning the

2320
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 1: punt for any real yard. And I haven't seen many

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01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 1: moments when he stood out. Um Now I was intrigued

2322
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:32,480
Speaker 1: by him early. I think he's settled in. He's fine,

2323
01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:35,200
Speaker 1: he's fine. I didn't think a whole lot, and I

2324
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:37,280
Speaker 1: think he's been fine. I think he's been a good

2325
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:39,680
Speaker 1: depth piece. Yeah I don't. I mean, I don't think

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01:55:39,720 --> 01:55:41,400
Speaker 1: he's as good as Phillips or I mean, I don't

2327
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:43,920
Speaker 1: think Philps has been playing as much. And I also

2328
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:47,520
Speaker 1: saw I think that he's playing more than Mac Wilson. Now, yeah,

2329
01:55:47,600 --> 01:55:52,000
Speaker 1: Mac Wilson didn't play a defensive snap um last week,

2330
01:55:52,040 --> 01:55:53,360
Speaker 1: but but I don't think they got a lot in

2331
01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:55,040
Speaker 1: the free Again. I did see the numbers two on

2332
01:55:55,160 --> 01:55:56,960
Speaker 1: Jugger because we kind of we talked about that a

2333
01:55:57,000 --> 01:56:00,440
Speaker 1: little six for six and the coverage like you know, uh,

2334
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:04,680
Speaker 1: David and Bethlehem coach deserves criticism like Mattie P and Mac.

2335
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:07,840
Speaker 1: But hold it, hold it. It is a symptom, not

2336
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 1: a disease. No team has had more coaches poached for

2337
01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:17,680
Speaker 1: extra credit named the coaches poached by Judge, Flores and McDaniels. No, No,

2338
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:20,720
Speaker 1: they've they've taken coaches when they went to be head coaches.

2339
01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:22,600
Speaker 1: We have. But I'm not going to rattle out, oh

2340
01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 1: you're refusing to do it. Okay, that's fair. I mean,

2341
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:28,920
Speaker 1: like Mick Lombardi, I mean they all took, you know,

2342
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:33,960
Speaker 1: Cleat Boyer, they all took. It's funny all those guys

2343
01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:35,960
Speaker 1: who are about to get fired, but we missed them.

2344
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:39,520
Speaker 1: Patrick Graham is like hanging on by a thread. But

2345
01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:41,400
Speaker 1: you can also hire guys like and that's what I

2346
01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:44,560
Speaker 1: think is destroy is the problem is that, you know,

2347
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:48,080
Speaker 1: and and even guys that didn't get poached, Dante retired,

2348
01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:51,600
Speaker 1: Ivan is in quasi retirement, Ernie Adams. I mean, you know,

2349
01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:54,240
Speaker 1: like like these guys haven't really been replaced either. So

2350
01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:56,360
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's the bigger problem for me

2351
01:56:56,560 --> 01:56:58,960
Speaker 1: is just that they haven't. They haven't restocked the shelves.

2352
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:01,000
Speaker 1: They've just kind of continue to try to put more

2353
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:03,680
Speaker 1: on the plates of people that they've had that they

2354
01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:07,280
Speaker 1: have here and the results aren't going well. I'm not surprised. Yeah,

2355
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:10,200
Speaker 1: and they have lost. To the emailer's point, they've lost

2356
01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches. No sarcasm intended there, they've lost

2357
01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:17,680
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches. Yeah, and it has to be

2358
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 1: somewhat of a fact. Yes, it is, Sir ROJ from

2359
01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:21,800
Speaker 1: Saint Louis. I'm gonna have to clean this up a

2360
01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:24,400
Speaker 1: little bit, I hope by doing good jobs says usually.

2361
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:27,760
Speaker 1: I agree with Fred's takes, but I wholeheartedly disagree with

2362
01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:32,840
Speaker 1: the make it work comment. When the person you have

2363
01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 1: to work with is actively or accidentally sabotaging your success,

2364
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:39,520
Speaker 1: you have to take over the range yourself. The person

2365
01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:43,560
Speaker 1: has lost all respect from the media, players, fans, but

2366
01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:46,880
Speaker 1: unfortunately not the guy who hired him. The team needs

2367
01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:49,440
Speaker 1: a top to bottom hard reset, which is a topic

2368
01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 1: for another time. I believe Mac will be a serviceable

2369
01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:54,840
Speaker 1: to good player in this league, but not with this

2370
01:57:55,040 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 1: team anymore. Okay, so why did you have to clean

2371
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:00,640
Speaker 1: that up? Was a lot of bombs in the middle

2372
01:58:00,680 --> 01:58:03,200
Speaker 1: of that um the way he referred to a certain person.

2373
01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:06,480
Speaker 1: Oh okay, not a map. Yeah. I just think that

2374
01:58:07,400 --> 01:58:11,280
Speaker 1: you can question everything, but you should do the best

2375
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:15,120
Speaker 1: you can mentally and physically to execute it. And I

2376
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:18,600
Speaker 1: don't think that they've done that mentally. I don't think

2377
01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:21,160
Speaker 1: that they're not trying on the field physically, but I

2378
01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:23,840
Speaker 1: think mentally they're not in it. They're not they're not

2379
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:28,080
Speaker 1: like engaged, they haven't bought in. All Right, that's gonna

2380
01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:32,080
Speaker 1: be it for this Wednesday edition. Of Patriots Unfiltered. Um,

2381
01:58:32,200 --> 01:58:34,800
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2382
01:58:35,240 --> 01:58:38,040
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01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:41,160
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2384
01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:44,520
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01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:47,280
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01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:51,600
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01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:55,720
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