1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and 2 00:00:32,559 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the 3 00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:37,719 Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history. 4 00:00:37,799 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 2: Joined by the newest member of the Patriots Hall of Fame, 5 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: Mike Rainbow. 6 00:00:40,319 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: And find out what led to some of the greatest 7 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: moments in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 8 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 3: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian 9 00:00:47,918 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 3: coy Or. 10 00:00:48,278 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 4: Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but number 11 00:00:50,918 --> 00:00:53,759 Speaker 4: one in our hearts at least Rodney Harrison. Good to 12 00:00:53,839 --> 00:00:55,999 Speaker 4: be home, Good to see you guys. 13 00:00:55,759 --> 00:01:00,879 Speaker 1: Search for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast, Drake. 14 00:01:01,239 --> 00:01:04,199 Speaker 5: Just to take us through your day, especially your health 15 00:01:04,279 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 5: and and what happened in coming back, but also just 16 00:01:07,239 --> 00:01:09,238 Speaker 5: how disappointing after what you guys were able to do 17 00:01:09,279 --> 00:01:12,359 Speaker 5: in Buffalo was this effort today from you guys? 18 00:01:12,839 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, just gotta gome my bell wrong in first drive. 19 00:01:15,519 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 6: I don't know, and you've ever played got hit, but 20 00:01:17,999 --> 00:01:20,359 Speaker 6: you sometimes you get your bell wrong and we gotta 21 00:01:20,359 --> 00:01:22,439 Speaker 6: shake back. So I think I guess the spoder call 22 00:01:22,559 --> 00:01:24,599 Speaker 6: down again and I pass some tests, but I feel 23 00:01:24,598 --> 00:01:26,919 Speaker 6: good still feel good and for I was good to go. 24 00:01:27,359 --> 00:01:29,919 Speaker 6: And then just the game, I think, yeah, I thinks 25 00:01:29,919 --> 00:01:32,318 Speaker 6: we're I think kind of felt like a little bit Arizona. 26 00:01:32,359 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 6: We really couldn't get in the rhythm offensively, and obviously 27 00:01:35,879 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 6: the pitch was unfortunate, just you know, had blits off 28 00:01:39,039 --> 00:01:41,719 Speaker 6: the edge that just happened to be a good call 29 00:01:41,759 --> 00:01:43,639 Speaker 6: on their part. And then just felt like, you know, 30 00:01:43,679 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 6: all day we're nothing they were doing. We just you 31 00:01:46,078 --> 00:01:48,519 Speaker 6: gotta play clean football and we gotta help, you know, 32 00:01:48,519 --> 00:01:50,199 Speaker 6: our defense out and when they're moving the ball, we'll 33 00:01:50,279 --> 00:01:50,879 Speaker 6: stay on the field. 34 00:01:50,919 --> 00:01:54,879 Speaker 3: You know, Tom possession was you know, pretty pretty one sided. 35 00:01:56,839 --> 00:02:01,079 Speaker 7: Drake, you were passionate defend defending Gerard and and Alex. 36 00:02:01,119 --> 00:02:04,319 Speaker 7: When you were asked recently, can you just explain what 37 00:02:04,599 --> 00:02:07,199 Speaker 7: in your view they're doing well that that gives you 38 00:02:07,319 --> 00:02:09,199 Speaker 7: hope and promise for the future. 39 00:02:09,519 --> 00:02:12,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think they're still bringing it every week. 40 00:02:12,478 --> 00:02:13,599 Speaker 6: I think that's the biggest thing to say. You know, 41 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,918 Speaker 6: they're not quitting. There's still coaching coaching as hard. Since 42 00:02:17,999 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 6: week one, they're still you know, studying film is hard. 43 00:02:19,999 --> 00:02:21,958 Speaker 6: Still meeting you, we're still meeting as hard. So I 44 00:02:21,999 --> 00:02:23,559 Speaker 6: think the biggest thing was this, You don't see those 45 00:02:23,559 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 6: guys quitting and I think you know the score main 46 00:02:26,159 --> 00:02:27,599 Speaker 6: and that's how today. But I feel like these guys, 47 00:02:27,679 --> 00:02:29,159 Speaker 6: you know, these guys are are still one to win. 48 00:02:29,199 --> 00:02:31,199 Speaker 6: We're still leaving all out there every week, and I 49 00:02:31,199 --> 00:02:33,839 Speaker 6: think that was kind of you know, my uh my 50 00:02:33,879 --> 00:02:35,319 Speaker 6: message to the team is give it all you got 51 00:02:35,399 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 6: and our last two games and this one today, so 52 00:02:38,679 --> 00:02:40,198 Speaker 6: we got one more chance next week and just just 53 00:02:40,279 --> 00:02:41,038 Speaker 6: leave it all out there. 54 00:02:44,319 --> 00:02:46,599 Speaker 8: Coach was asked about you staying in the game late, 55 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 8: and you said, again, we're trying to develop a quarterback. 56 00:02:49,439 --> 00:02:51,439 Speaker 8: He also said that you're a competitor and so forth. 57 00:02:51,559 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 8: Was there a discussion late in the gaming butt you 58 00:02:53,319 --> 00:02:55,279 Speaker 8: staying in or coming out earlier than you did? 59 00:02:56,399 --> 00:02:57,479 Speaker 6: I want, I want to be in the game, like 60 00:02:57,519 --> 00:02:58,719 Speaker 6: that's the biggest thing. I want to be in the game. 61 00:02:58,719 --> 00:03:00,039 Speaker 6: I want to be out to those guys. You know, 62 00:03:00,038 --> 00:03:01,918 Speaker 6: if our guys are are out there, I want to 63 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,319 Speaker 6: be out there with them, and uhoo, may may see 64 00:03:04,319 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 6: something that may help us next week out there. 65 00:03:05,799 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 8: So what I asked was was there a discussion though, 66 00:03:07,999 --> 00:03:09,198 Speaker 8: or is it just an understanding? 67 00:03:09,319 --> 00:03:13,199 Speaker 3: Understand you understand? Are you already in the. 68 00:03:13,199 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 9: Front, Treg, is there a sort of a fine line 69 00:03:15,799 --> 00:03:17,599 Speaker 9: when you turned into a ball carrier like you did 70 00:03:17,599 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 9: on the play where you got your belt wrung of 71 00:03:20,519 --> 00:03:23,478 Speaker 9: trying to make the yardage. But also again we've talked 72 00:03:23,479 --> 00:03:25,159 Speaker 9: about this about trying to protect yourself. 73 00:03:25,319 --> 00:03:28,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, I think, yeah, parts just thrown away 74 00:03:28,399 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 6: or you'll play the play the next next series. You know, 75 00:03:31,239 --> 00:03:32,439 Speaker 6: it was third down, so I was trying to get 76 00:03:32,439 --> 00:03:34,959 Speaker 6: a first and I guess I stepped out of bounds before. 77 00:03:34,999 --> 00:03:36,679 Speaker 6: But I definitely think, you know, in the first quarter 78 00:03:36,719 --> 00:03:39,239 Speaker 6: of a game where you know third down is you 79 00:03:39,359 --> 00:03:40,359 Speaker 6: my mentality, go get it. 80 00:03:40,399 --> 00:03:42,238 Speaker 3: But the same time, we got no kind of situation. 81 00:03:44,719 --> 00:03:48,439 Speaker 10: Drake over here. I'm just curious on the touchdowns to 82 00:03:48,519 --> 00:03:51,039 Speaker 10: Mario Douglas, were you aware when you kind of took 83 00:03:51,039 --> 00:03:52,879 Speaker 10: that shot, Like was that the play call or was 84 00:03:52,879 --> 00:03:54,999 Speaker 10: that a result of kind of seeing that you had 85 00:03:54,999 --> 00:03:57,879 Speaker 10: a free play based on the penalty that was. 86 00:03:57,799 --> 00:04:00,279 Speaker 6: Seeing free play? You know, we worked on it this 87 00:04:00,319 --> 00:04:02,519 Speaker 6: week and just give this guys a chance. You know, 88 00:04:02,559 --> 00:04:04,079 Speaker 6: we got a piloty to give those guys a chance. 89 00:04:04,119 --> 00:04:05,839 Speaker 6: And you have a negative play on a free play 90 00:04:05,839 --> 00:04:07,279 Speaker 6: doesn't hurt. And I think the biggest thing is not 91 00:04:07,279 --> 00:04:08,799 Speaker 6: to taket hit. So I tried to get off before 92 00:04:08,919 --> 00:04:10,759 Speaker 6: you know it got hit, and you know, Pop made 93 00:04:10,759 --> 00:04:12,239 Speaker 6: a great play Drake. 94 00:04:12,279 --> 00:04:13,959 Speaker 2: Over the last month, the team may have not have 95 00:04:13,959 --> 00:04:16,079 Speaker 2: been winning games, but there was a feeling, there was development, 96 00:04:16,119 --> 00:04:18,238 Speaker 2: there was growth taking place. The group was heading in 97 00:04:18,239 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 2: the right direction. This result obviously kind of hits in 98 00:04:21,359 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 2: a different way. How do you feel overall about the 99 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,399 Speaker 2: growth and development of the team overall? Do you have 100 00:04:26,519 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 2: questions about whether you are trending in the right direction. 101 00:04:30,558 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think, you know, I think John Jones, who 102 00:04:32,959 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 6: you know in the in the locker room after I think, 103 00:04:34,678 --> 00:04:36,519 Speaker 6: you know, it's just you know, two different teams. I 104 00:04:36,519 --> 00:04:38,118 Speaker 6: feel like that showed up, you know, with us between 105 00:04:38,119 --> 00:04:39,959 Speaker 6: this week and last week. And I think the two 106 00:04:39,959 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 6: playoff teams we faced and we see what we could 107 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,199 Speaker 6: do against you know, a playoff team last week, and 108 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 6: just feel like it wasn't there this week. I think 109 00:04:47,078 --> 00:04:48,759 Speaker 6: whether you just look back and self, by the way, 110 00:04:48,799 --> 00:04:51,198 Speaker 6: look myself in the mirror. I definitely left some players 111 00:04:51,198 --> 00:04:54,198 Speaker 6: out there. So everybody look yourself in the mirror and say, hey, 112 00:04:54,479 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 6: you know, I doing you know, whatever we need to 113 00:04:56,479 --> 00:04:58,678 Speaker 6: do to be on the same page and play good football, 114 00:04:58,719 --> 00:05:00,118 Speaker 6: and it's like it's in there. I think it's in 115 00:05:00,159 --> 00:05:01,959 Speaker 6: sore for us, like I said, I think, like I 116 00:05:01,958 --> 00:05:04,519 Speaker 6: said last week, we got you know, people in here 117 00:05:04,519 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 6: that can make plays and good players in this league. 118 00:05:07,078 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 6: So we just got to know, put all together and 119 00:05:09,318 --> 00:05:11,399 Speaker 6: you'll find a way to do more again on the 120 00:05:11,438 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 6: same page offensively and kind of get the ball rolling. 121 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,038 Speaker 6: I feel like, you know that that's kind of the 122 00:05:16,078 --> 00:05:17,959 Speaker 6: tale two tales from a rolling we're rolling well, and 123 00:05:17,999 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 6: you know when we're. 124 00:05:18,519 --> 00:05:19,519 Speaker 3: Not, we're kind of stagnant. 125 00:05:20,159 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 4: Drake Coach Mayo mentioned, you know, trying to develop you 126 00:05:22,919 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 4: develop a quarterback. What was the value in your mind 127 00:05:25,479 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 4: of those two series you played in the fourth quarter? 128 00:05:27,999 --> 00:05:29,758 Speaker 4: And my second question would be, do you feel like 129 00:05:29,759 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 4: at this p point in your NFL career you're able 130 00:05:32,639 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 4: to protect yourself out there? You know how to do 131 00:05:34,879 --> 00:05:37,399 Speaker 4: that without compromising competitive integrity? 132 00:05:37,799 --> 00:05:38,118 Speaker 8: For sure? 133 00:05:38,119 --> 00:05:39,639 Speaker 3: I think that's that's you know, the second part of 134 00:05:39,639 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 3: the question. 135 00:05:39,958 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 6: Definitely even balance between being competitive and you're protect myself 136 00:05:42,919 --> 00:05:44,559 Speaker 6: out there, especially in a you know, scenario like that, 137 00:05:44,599 --> 00:05:45,559 Speaker 6: but at the same time, I want to go down 138 00:05:45,558 --> 00:05:47,118 Speaker 6: there and move the ball. You'll want to move the ball, 139 00:05:47,159 --> 00:05:49,119 Speaker 6: want to you know, get some juices poling for these 140 00:05:49,159 --> 00:05:51,879 Speaker 6: guys and you know, make everybody at least offensively say hey, 141 00:05:52,078 --> 00:05:53,519 Speaker 6: you know, you know we can still move the ball 142 00:05:53,519 --> 00:05:55,598 Speaker 6: in these guys and go score us of the mentality 143 00:05:55,919 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 6: And first part of your question was, yeah, value, I 144 00:06:01,599 --> 00:06:02,639 Speaker 6: want to be out there, Like I said, I want 145 00:06:02,678 --> 00:06:04,559 Speaker 6: to be out there. We'll be out there with those 146 00:06:04,558 --> 00:06:07,399 Speaker 6: guys and then then those guys up from the other 147 00:06:07,399 --> 00:06:09,079 Speaker 6: battle and their butts off, so you're not going to 148 00:06:09,119 --> 00:06:10,638 Speaker 6: be out there and you know, go to the coach 149 00:06:10,678 --> 00:06:14,879 Speaker 6: that hate take me out like it's not me. 150 00:06:14,558 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 3: Drag over here. What happened on the toss to tomorrow 151 00:06:18,198 --> 00:06:19,439 Speaker 3: Douglas the fumble there? 152 00:06:19,599 --> 00:06:22,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, just we probably just played for a long time, 153 00:06:22,479 --> 00:06:25,519 Speaker 6: you know, we're executing well and they have to bring 154 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,439 Speaker 6: you know, the nickel off the edge and I think, you. 155 00:06:28,438 --> 00:06:30,399 Speaker 3: Know, he's kind of you know, right up Pop, and 156 00:06:30,438 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 3: that's gonna be. 157 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 6: Unfortunately, just you know, a good call on their part 158 00:06:33,318 --> 00:06:35,398 Speaker 6: and then you gotta give to him a better, better 159 00:06:35,438 --> 00:06:37,998 Speaker 6: ball to catch. That's you know, really falls back on me. 160 00:06:38,198 --> 00:06:41,638 Speaker 6: So I think kind of Pop made you know, readjusted 161 00:06:41,639 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 6: his thing a little bit. You know, his rattle or 162 00:06:43,999 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 6: his path just because of the blitzer off the edge, 163 00:06:46,919 --> 00:06:49,959 Speaker 6: but just gotta give him a chance to you can't 164 00:06:49,958 --> 00:06:53,598 Speaker 6: turn the ball over, Drake. 165 00:06:54,159 --> 00:06:56,759 Speaker 10: I was just curious over here on the side. I 166 00:06:56,799 --> 00:07:00,558 Speaker 10: was curious with cold strange. Obviously Ben Brown was out today, 167 00:07:00,599 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 10: so we saw Cole at center. What's it been like 168 00:07:02,999 --> 00:07:04,879 Speaker 10: working with him and just how was that being out 169 00:07:04,879 --> 00:07:06,598 Speaker 10: on the field with him for this first game today? 170 00:07:06,719 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought I thought he handed it well, you know, 171 00:07:08,879 --> 00:07:10,199 Speaker 6: you know a lot of pressure you know on him. 172 00:07:10,279 --> 00:07:12,359 Speaker 6: He's you know, first started center. Center's a different job 173 00:07:12,399 --> 00:07:14,319 Speaker 6: than the playing guards. So you know it's probat of 174 00:07:14,319 --> 00:07:16,679 Speaker 6: the way you worked, probably way you fought. You gotta 175 00:07:16,679 --> 00:07:18,519 Speaker 6: wash the tape and you'll probably go over some little 176 00:07:18,559 --> 00:07:20,879 Speaker 6: things that maybe we could do better. But you know, 177 00:07:20,919 --> 00:07:22,919 Speaker 6: he caught the guys off side. That's really him doing that, 178 00:07:23,199 --> 00:07:25,278 Speaker 6: snapped the ball and it really credit to. 179 00:07:25,319 --> 00:07:30,559 Speaker 11: Him, Drake. The first player came back in the game. 180 00:07:30,559 --> 00:07:33,799 Speaker 11: You scramble nine yard and took another heart hit there, right? 181 00:07:34,078 --> 00:07:35,719 Speaker 11: Is that the kind of like the message or the 182 00:07:35,719 --> 00:07:37,639 Speaker 11: signal you try to pause to our team made that 183 00:07:37,719 --> 00:07:40,559 Speaker 11: we need to play top we need to play a 184 00:07:40,559 --> 00:07:41,319 Speaker 11: competitive game. 185 00:07:41,439 --> 00:07:42,078 Speaker 3: Yeah, anytime. 186 00:07:42,279 --> 00:07:44,559 Speaker 6: You know, I'm telling the doctors I'm good to go. Man, 187 00:07:44,559 --> 00:07:46,839 Speaker 6: I'm gonna come back and you'll give it all I got. 188 00:07:46,879 --> 00:07:49,559 Speaker 6: So maybe could have had a booty on a crossing 189 00:07:49,639 --> 00:07:51,278 Speaker 6: route there, I could have thrown it, but end up 190 00:07:51,679 --> 00:07:53,999 Speaker 6: you'll get in the flag. But I think that's you'll 191 00:07:53,999 --> 00:07:55,719 Speaker 6: mess to those guys. Hey, you know, come back. I'm 192 00:07:55,759 --> 00:07:57,199 Speaker 6: ready to go. I'm kind of the same thing when 193 00:07:57,159 --> 00:07:59,399 Speaker 6: I came back from the concussion, It'll be the same player. 194 00:07:59,439 --> 00:08:01,479 Speaker 6: And if I'm not, you know, I fel like I'm 195 00:08:01,519 --> 00:08:02,959 Speaker 6: not a harmstating to go in the in the best 196 00:08:03,039 --> 00:08:05,719 Speaker 6: me out there, I won't put myself I out there. 197 00:08:06,958 --> 00:08:09,799 Speaker 1: Patriots Playbook join John Brook as he brings you all 198 00:08:09,839 --> 00:08:13,199 Speaker 1: the latest Patriots Talk, an expert commentary direct from Patriots HQ. 199 00:08:13,879 --> 00:08:16,278 Speaker 1: The show features interviews with New England and Opponent beat 200 00:08:16,279 --> 00:08:18,359 Speaker 1: writers that bring you a unique media view of the 201 00:08:18,359 --> 00:08:18,999 Speaker 1: state of the team. 202 00:08:19,078 --> 00:08:21,799 Speaker 2: But where the Patriots are concerned, Let's just get one 203 00:08:21,879 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 2: thing done and let's get it done right, and then. 204 00:08:24,559 --> 00:08:26,078 Speaker 3: We can worry about versatility. 205 00:08:26,159 --> 00:08:27,359 Speaker 1: Am I lying to anybody here? 206 00:08:27,639 --> 00:08:29,039 Speaker 3: Let's just get one thing done. 207 00:08:29,159 --> 00:08:31,559 Speaker 2: Let's get one thing done and write, and then we 208 00:08:31,639 --> 00:08:33,958 Speaker 2: can move along, that's kind of my biggest thing. 209 00:08:33,999 --> 00:08:36,639 Speaker 1: Search Patriots Playbook, anywhere you get your podcasts,