1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: Everybody. It's Bill Courtney with shop Talk number thirty. I 2 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: love it. Say it's like walking into a shop, you 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: know in the door. Oh, that's right, that's yeah, walk 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: into a shop. Shop talk walking to a shop. We 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: have shop talk. We didn't plan that at all. When 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: you're that's the whole reason I wanted to Bill, so 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: it sounded like a shop. Really yeah, well thanks for 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: telling me that you're welcome. And Vita sent it to us. Anyway, 9 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: Shop Talk number thirty, it's a milestone. I'm gonna butcher 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: names as usual, but Keith Bosh or Keith Balk Bock 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: it's b a u h so Bosh or Bock. Anyway, 12 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: it's Keith. Keith sent me a shop talk suggestion and 13 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: it's a little a little tricky to take up, but uh, 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: I want to take it up. It's about being a 15 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: crappy parent. So shop Talk number thirty, don't be a 16 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: crappy parent. Right after these brief messages from our general sponsorship, 17 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: welcome back everybody, Bill courtneyth and Army and normal folks, 18 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: Shock Talk number thirty, here's what Keith wrote. I got 19 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: a shop talk suggestion. Some parents not all expecting the 20 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: school system to teach their kids the social aspects of 21 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: life and not taking on the responsibility of parenting at home. 22 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: Then they get upset when the school staff try to 23 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: hold their kids accountable for their actions or like thereof 24 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm a parent of four. Congratulations, Keith, I'm a parent 25 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: of four. Two that is work for your wife. I'm 26 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: a parent of four that all graduated from a small 27 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: school in central Minnesota. When I say small, I mean 28 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: four hundred and eighty students K through twelve. I'm also 29 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: an elected school board member for fourteen years and see 30 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: the struggles that the para professionals, the teachers, and administrations 31 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: deal with the fact that these students disrupt the learning 32 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 1: environment for all students, affect the students that really want 33 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: to learn, and are causing teachers to leave the profession 34 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: and others to not join the profession of educating or 35 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: the next generation. Please speak to the topic of parents 36 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: taking the responsibility to be parents and not a friend 37 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: of their kids. I'm aware that this does not apply 38 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: to all parents. Wow. So when I graduated from Ole 39 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: miss before I met Lisa, I was going to get 40 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: my doctorate in child psychology and I was going to 41 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: save the world, didn't have any money, so I took 42 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: a job teaching school, coaching basketball, football, and baseball while 43 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: going to school to get my doctorate. All four seventeen thousand, 44 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars a year. Oh, and I cut the 45 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: grass during the summer on the football and baseball fields, 46 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: which is really crappy in the summer, but at two 47 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: degrees in here, I'm cutting grass making seventeen thousand dollars 48 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: a year. But I was trying to be a second anyway. 49 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: I was a teacher. I was a homeroom teacher. I 50 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: taught English and psychology, and then coach three sports and 51 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: cut the aforementioned grass. That's what I did for a living. 52 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: And then I got married and we started having lots 53 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: of kids, and I couldn't afford to stick with that 54 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: because I just had to make more money. It didn't 55 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: have any insurance either, and one thing led to another 56 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: and got in business. But that was my passion, and 57 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: as most of you know, I continued to coach for 58 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: the next thirty three years. So I have seen the 59 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: best of kids, I have seen some challenging kids, and 60 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: I have seen the best of parents, and I have 61 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: seen the worst of parents, and this shop talk is 62 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: on not being a crappy parent. I really appreciate what 63 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: Keith said here, which is, please talk to the topic 64 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: of parents taking responsibility to be parents and not a 65 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: friend to their kids. I have three thoughts here. One 66 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: is I'll start with Keith's thought is that a parent's 67 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: job is to be respected and even feared, but not liked. 68 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: When parents are more concerned with being the cool parent 69 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: rather than the accountability parent, you know, that's that's a 70 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: bad thing. But I'm I'm I'm not sure people understand 71 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: the burden that puts on others because invariably kids that 72 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: grow up or are in that type of environment, Invariably 73 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: those kids end up because they're not used to being 74 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: held accountable, being disruptive in classrooms, doing disruptive on the 75 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: ball field, and they are the genesis of all of 76 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: the other kids starting to pull away from accountability. And 77 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: it's interesting that Keith talks about para professionals, teachers and 78 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: administrators that deal with it, and the fact that there's 79 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: so much disruption in the learning environment that professionals and 80 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: others are choosing now not to join the profession of 81 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: educating our next generation and y'all, teachers don't do it 82 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: for the money. I don't know a teacher that ever 83 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: got rich teaching. They do it for the love of kids. 84 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: They do it for the love of education, and they 85 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: do it because it's a calling. But when we make 86 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: that calling so hard to achieve because of poor parenting, 87 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: that we lose bright folks being willing to enter the profession. 88 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: Just think of what education would look like twenty twenty 89 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: five years from now. The other thing is, you know, 90 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: it's not the school's job to raise your child. It's 91 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: the school's job to try to educate your child. But 92 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: it's your job to raise your child, hold them accountable, 93 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: teach them civility, teach them right from wrong, and do 94 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: the work to make them productive citizens. And then you 95 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: ship them off to school on loan to be educated. 96 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: When parents start abdicating the responsibility of actually raising children 97 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: to the school system, well then don't we start down 98 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: that slippery slope of systematic issues. I take Keith, I 99 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: take Keith's comments to heart. Don't be a crappy parent 100 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: by trying to be your kid's friends. Be your kids, 101 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: mentor love them, support them, teach them. But you got 102 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: to be their accountability measure first. In addition to this, 103 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: there are two other thoughts I had, especially one from 104 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: coaching that I'll never forget, which is helicopter parents. For 105 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: goodness sakes, would you please let your skids skin their knees? 106 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: Would you please let your kids sit on the bench 107 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: without whining to the coach about why your precious angel 108 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: didn't get in playing time? Would you please allow your 109 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: kid to be disciplined when they messed up by someone else? 110 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: Would you please allow your kids to fail? Would you 111 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: please allow your kids to get zeros when they forget 112 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: their homework, rather than jumping in the car and running 113 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: it up to school to give them their homework so 114 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: they don't get a bad grade. Would you please allow 115 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: your kids to learn from their mistakes rather than hovering 116 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: over them and keeping them from any pain or anguish 117 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: Because I assure you pain and anguish is coming when 118 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: they become adults, and the way they learn to handle 119 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: pain and anguish as adults is they get little doses 120 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: of it as children while they're still in our nest, 121 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: so that we can nurse them back to health after 122 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: they get hurt a little bit. But if you deprive 123 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: them of failure. As children, you deprive them of the 124 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: lessons of how to deal with failure, You deprive them 125 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: of the lessons of how to overcome obstacles, and then 126 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: when they become adults, they're simply ill prepared to enter life. 127 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: Helicopter parents are destructive to children. Parents being friends to 128 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: their kids rather than accountabilities are destructive to children. And 129 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: they're tearing up our school systems, and they're making the 130 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: jobs of administrators and teachers and coaches and par professionals 131 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: and all the other people that are trying to educate 132 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: your kids. They make it very difficult for them, and 133 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: they make it miserable for the other kids in the 134 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: class that are trying to do the right thing. So 135 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: stop it. Quit being a crappy parent. The third thing 136 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: goes back to a shop talk we did recently, which 137 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: is the power of encouragement. Tell you a quick story. 138 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: I was coaching second grade football. My boys were on 139 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: the team, and there were a couple of kids who 140 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: I had coached, and a couple of dads were helping me, 141 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: and we were just out there, you know, letting second 142 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: graders bump around on each other and kind of learned 143 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: how to play football and be teammates. We weren't necessarily 144 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: worried about winning a lot of games. We wanted everybody to, 145 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: you know, enjoy the experience, hopefully learn from it. And 146 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: the third day of practice, we were told a new 147 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: kid was showing up, and we'll call this kids John. 148 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: That was not his name, John. And his father walk up, 149 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: and his father looked like he walked straight off the 150 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: set a full metal jacket, and he introduced John to 151 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: us and he said, coaches, I'm let's call him Rodney. 152 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: That was not his name, either of the father, but 153 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: we'll just say his name was Rodney. He said, I'm 154 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: Rodney Smith, and this is my boy John. My two 155 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: older sons both played football from first grade all the 156 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: way through high school. One of them won a state championship, 157 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: another one of city championship, and they were just they 158 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: were just good boys. And he said, now this one 159 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: John right here, he's an inside dog, and I want 160 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: to see him grow up a little bit. And he 161 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: turned the wine and walked off. This man called his 162 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: son an inside dog as he was introducing him to 163 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: his football coaches in second grade. Now I look down 164 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: on that kid, and you could tell he wanted to 165 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: be anywhere but on a hot football field and the 166 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: grass with a helmet on his head. He just football 167 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: wasn't his thing, He wasn't interested, but he was drug 168 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: out there and called an inside dog by his dad. 169 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: I have no idea where that can ended up, but 170 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: I do know three days, after three days of practice, 171 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: we never saw him again, no surprise. But I thought 172 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: about that kid for twenty years now, and I worry 173 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: about him because if measuring up to his father's standards 174 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: of what a young boy was supposed to be was 175 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: never going to happen for that kid. Only imagine at 176 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: six years old what the next twelve to fourteen years 177 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: of that guy's life was like. Not only was that encouragement, 178 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: it's just belittling. So the third thing I want to 179 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: say that we've got to do for our kids is 180 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: we do have to hold them accountable. We can't be 181 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: their buddies, and we can't helicopter over them and not 182 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: let them skin their knees or get a busted lip, 183 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: or fail a class or pay the consequences for four actions. 184 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: But the other thing is we got to love them unconditionally, 185 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: and we got to mentor them and we've got to 186 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: encourage them. There's a beautiful fine line when you're able 187 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: to hold your kid accountable, to not helicopter them. But 188 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: when they lay their head on bed at night, they 189 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: still know they are loved, and they still know that 190 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: they are valued, and they still know that even though 191 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: they messed up, that today's Tomorrow's another day and they 192 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: can do better. That fine line is where great parenting happens. 193 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: That fine line is the difference in a kid being 194 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: sad and being happy, And that fine line is a 195 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: difference in a kid understanding that good people make mistakes 196 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: all day, every day, and smart people fail. But the 197 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: good news is about the sun coming up the next 198 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,599 Speaker 1: day and they are blowing into your lungs. Is you 199 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: got another chance to write it. So don't helicopter, don't 200 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: be your kid's friends, hold them accountable, but certainly love 201 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: them unconditionally. Always encourage them, and always mentor them, and 202 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: let them learn from their mistakes. And if we all 203 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: did that, I just believe teachers would want to come 204 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: back to the profession, and I just believe people would 205 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: enjoy being in school because the kids would be armored, 206 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: the kids would be equipped with the right fundamentals to 207 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: achieve in school. The last thing I want to say 208 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: about this shop talk suggestion from Keith is this, there 209 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: has been policy put in place in the last ten 210 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: years that I do believe is destructive. And it is 211 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: a policy that basically says, if you're from a certain 212 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: socioeconomic or class of people, that, regardless of what you do, 213 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: we've got to keep advancing you. It's just so destructive. Now, 214 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: this is why I said at the beginning of this 215 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: shop talk it may be a little difficult because this 216 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: does veer into the politics a little bit that I 217 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: really do try to stay away from. But guys, who 218 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: cares what area come from, what you look like, how 219 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: you vote, Who cares about that. If you're a kid 220 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: that's messing up, you need to be held accountable. If 221 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: you're a kid that's messing up and you're failing, you 222 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: need to be failed. If you're kids that's not doing 223 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: right and you're causing disturbances for other people and the classes, 224 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: and you're making administrators and teachers jobs miserable, you've got 225 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: to be disciplined. Period, the thirties, forties and fifties in 226 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: this country, where schools were filled with very very very 227 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: poor people. But we held kids accountable, we failed them. 228 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: We required certain par levels for them to advance. And 229 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: the kids that were that were that grew up and 230 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: had problems, it wasn't because the school was too tough 231 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: on them. It's just ridiculous. There's common sense policy that says, 232 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: if you're a kid that's messing up in school, you're 233 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: going to be held accountable, and if you continue, you're 234 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: going to be disciplined, and eventually most of those kids 235 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: will will take that discipline and that accountability and get 236 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: themselves right. But if you just continue to say, oh, 237 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: because you're from this area or you're poor, you're this, 238 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: We're just going to let it slide. And if you 239 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: continue to reward schools for advancement and graduation rates rather 240 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: than for promoting based on reaching levels of certain par 241 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: levels that you've got to reach to be able to 242 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: be promoted in advanced in the next grade. If we're 243 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: rewarding schools not for educating but for promoting, and if 244 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: we're rewarding schools not for disciplining but for coddling man, 245 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: that scares me. That scares me. What twenty thirty years 246 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: from now looks like, Like I said, I don't want 247 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: to get too deep in it. There's plenty of stuff 248 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: online that you can google about the last ten years 249 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:29,959 Speaker 1: or so policies in the world of education regarding what 250 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, and might do you some good to 251 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: google it and read up on it. I think you 252 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: might be surprised, So Keith, thanks for shop talk suggestion 253 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: number thirty. Number one, don't be a friend of your kids, 254 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: hold them accountable. Number two, don't be helicopter parent, and 255 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: number three give them unconditional love and support and encouragement. 256 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: And if you can do those things, hopefully you can 257 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: avoid being a crappy parent. That's shop Talk number thirty. 258 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm Bill Courtney, thanks to our producer iron Light Labs 259 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: for shop talk suggestions. For shop talk suggestions, would you 260 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: please email me anytime at Bill at Normalfolks dot us. 261 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: And if your suggestion has something in it that I 262 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: think I can add value to, I'll comment on it, 263 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: and if it's not, I'll at least email you back 264 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: and say hey, I'm on equipped to do anything with it, 265 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: but send me suggestions. We like to interact with you 266 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: on this stuff. So shop Talk number thirty, don't be 267 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: a crappy parent thanks to our producer, Iron Light Labs. 268 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: I'm Bill Courtney. We'll see you next week.