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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's You're alive on a Tuesday edition of Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns Daily. I am merely Bo. He is the great

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Speaker 2: Z New Time, New Day, New season, and away we

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Speaker 2: go Week one? Brother?

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Speaker 3: You ready?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 5: I could see the enthusiasm in your face.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes a look can communicate all you need. Can you

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Speaker 2: believe we're here? No week one? Mm hmm? All this

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Speaker 2: build up, no way, and away we go?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I cannot believe that we're here right now?

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Speaker 5: That part either that aside, though, Yes. The rest of

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Speaker 5: it so hard to wrap your head around.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited for it. I'm ready for some National Football

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Speaker 2: League action. We got a game two days, another game

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Speaker 2: in three days. It's a bunch of games and five

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Speaker 2: days more than six.

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Speaker 5: I like the way that it builds naturally from high

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Speaker 5: school football. A couple of weeks ago. College football gets

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Speaker 5: the Labor Day weekend and it was a banger, and

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Speaker 5: then all of a sudden, the NFL pops in right

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Speaker 5: under it. So you kind of build to the very

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Speaker 5: pinnacle of the sport and here we are, So there's

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Speaker 5: a natural progression to it.

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Speaker 2: That's going to be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 5: This team is going to debut on Sunday against the

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Speaker 5: Cincinnati Bengals. It's not going to get better than that.

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Speaker 2: No, it's gonna be fun. And I can't wait to

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Speaker 2: see that place packed and rock and Huntington bank Field.

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Speaker 2: The Browns are playing, you know, a Cincinnati Bengals team

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Speaker 2: that is the worst early season team ever. Zach Taylor

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Speaker 2: is one and eleven in weeks one and two in

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Speaker 2: his career, as the worst of any quarterback of any

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Speaker 2: coach ever. Under that, you know, Joe Burrow's one and

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Speaker 2: nine in the first two weeks of the season. Crazy

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Speaker 2: one and nine. Yeah, I was coming across doing some

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Speaker 2: you know, getting ready for the game, big B broadcaster,

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Speaker 2: want to be prepared. This is the This is wild

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Speaker 2: to me. Joe Burrow in weeks one and two of

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Speaker 2: an NFL season is one and nine as a starter.

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Speaker 2: He throws for two hundred and twenty four yards, fourteen touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: nine picks, and as a rating of eighty one. The

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Speaker 2: rest of the year two hundred and eighty four yards,

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Speaker 2: so sixty more, one hundred and twenty six touchdowns, only

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Speaker 2: thirty seven picks. So his touchdowns went up almost ten

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Speaker 2: x and his interceptions went up four x and his

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Speaker 2: pass ratings is one hundred and five. How could be

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Speaker 2: so bad in weeks one and two.

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Speaker 5: Well, their whole operation and I mean they're basically just

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Speaker 5: they basically threw stuff at the wall and they're playing

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Speaker 5: This year was well, well maybe because we didn't play

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Speaker 5: him in the preseason. Now some of that as he

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Speaker 5: was coming back from injury. So this year they played

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Speaker 5: him in the preseason. Five drives, Yeah, five drives.

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Speaker 2: He played fifteen snaps in two preseason games from twenty

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Speaker 2: to twenty four combined, fifteen snaps. He played five drives

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Speaker 2: this year. Yeah, Jamar Chase played in the preseason, never

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Speaker 2: played in the preseason, never done any of it.

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Speaker 5: And I think, you know, from our vantage point, just

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Speaker 5: to let's just kind of review everything that's happened here

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Speaker 5: in the last month. But it's been a great many

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Speaker 5: Kenny ate it Kenny. Of course, Kenny Pickett is not

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Speaker 5: is not the way we're going to go about our business.

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Speaker 5: By the time we get to Sunday, Flacco in there,

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Speaker 2: He paratroops in. So that's a win.

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Speaker 5: So this is something where this team has changed very

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And in terms of from the Bengals standpoint, you know,

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, this is a big one. And I think

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Speaker 2: you'd look at the Bengals change in what they they realize, Hey,

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Speaker 2: we've got a problem here in these early seasons. They

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Speaker 2: we need to make the playoffs. We got to get

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Speaker 2: that done. She's got gifts for us.

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Speaker 3: Gifts.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's a big box. Some beautiful looking shoes there.

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Speaker 2: It's a big box. It's gonna be a lot of

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Speaker 2: the stuff that I think I've already given you. I

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Speaker 2: Ton's got a massive box. It's a huge box.

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Speaker 5: She's got She's got a massive I don't know is.

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Speaker 2: She coming in?

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Speaker 3: Who's that for the man? The man?

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Speaker 2: Appropriate man? I like that? What a way to kick

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Speaker 2: it's appropriate.

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Speaker 5: There's nobody that would please me more than you get

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, so that's lovely.

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Speaker 5: No, Cincinnati, your opponent Sunday, is as all in as

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Speaker 5: All chips are to the middle. They re signed everybody

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Speaker 5: don't think that they have maybe nationally the pressure that

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Speaker 5: So, nationally, all the conversations around Baltimore and Buffalo, I

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's absolutely no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: They are.

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Speaker 2: They've when you've got Joe Burrow, you're in your super

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Speaker 2: you've got to go try and win it now. That's

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Speaker 2: their whole thing, and they know that. Last year you

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Speaker 5: So from their perspective, if you go two and oh

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Speaker 2: So they want to get out to a quick start.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they need to get out to a quick start,

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Speaker 5: and so do we. And we've talked at nauseam about

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Speaker 5: because we'll hold them to this standard on this show,

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Speaker 5: is how do we define success this year for the

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty five Cleveland Browns And then beyond.

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Speaker 2: That, what do we need to get out of this year?

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Speaker 5: Because as you and I sit here and obviously Kevin

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Speaker 5: win the division, make the postseason. Like that goal stays

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Speaker 5: the same for them, But for our vantage point, you

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Speaker 5: be a very interesting season for us in terms of

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Speaker 5: how do we define success, How do we judge this team?

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Speaker 5: What are we looking for weekend in week out, and

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Speaker 5: how does that differ maybe from what you're looking for

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Speaker 5: a big picture this season.

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Speaker 2: To me, it's you define success for this team. And

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Speaker 2: there are a couple of pass But the first one

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Speaker 2: would be if if Joe Flacco is your quarterback in

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Speaker 2: the month of December, then success is defined by making

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. Yeah, Joe Flacco is not your quarterback in December,

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Speaker 2: maybe not even in November. Then it's defined by how

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Speaker 2: do the rookies look. Do we feel like we finished

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Speaker 2: on the ascent. Hopefully Jacksonville has a dreadful season. I

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Speaker 2: and then we're loaded up in this draft. We've got

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Speaker 2: feel like we need to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise this season needs to about evaluating Dylan Gabriel and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because that's all the off season will be about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they went on the whole tour, and and honestly,

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Speaker 5: see him both play, And mister Haslam said that a

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Speaker 5: so that that's when this thing switches into something else. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Correct. Now, it feels, you know, Joe Flackle hasn't been

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Speaker 5: None are active seasons. None are active other than Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 2: Three will be Hall of famers, one will not be.

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Speaker 2: And we've already named Tom Brady. Okay, and so that's

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Speaker 2: you have one correct with no errors, Gibbe, Drew Brees

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Speaker 2: It is three of them are Hall of famers. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: That was a big hint there, That was a big hint.

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Speaker 2: I'm usually unplugged. Well, of course, that's tough. Tough snapses

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Speaker 2: Maybe this is it.

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Speaker 5: But he's gonna take full advantage of it. Obviously, him

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun games. He will stretch the field.

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Speaker 2: And because of Judy and Bond and Fan and in Djoku,

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Speaker 2: Since the beginning of twenty twenty three, minimum of ten starts.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna go and Burrow. So Burrow's two sixty

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Speaker 2: So that's only five of those were with US. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: now there's a little fun one as I pulled up

435
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Speaker 2: Vinnie Testaverdi's career. Yeah, Vinnie Testaverdi four times led the

436
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Speaker 2: National Football League in interceptions. Yeah, in nineteen eighty eight,

437
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Speaker 2: how many teams did he play for? Played Tampa for

438
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Speaker 2: six years, played for the Jets for seven years, played

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Speaker 2: for the Browns for three years, then played for the

440
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Speaker 2: Ravens for two years, the Cowboys for a year, Carolina

441
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Speaker 2: for a year with US, and New England for a year.

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Speaker 2: What was his best year with US? His best years

443
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Speaker 2: were when the Ravens the Browns became the Ravens. In

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six, he made the Pro Bowl through thirty

445
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Speaker 2: three four and seventy seven yards, thirty three touchdowns, nineteen picks,

446
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Speaker 2: And then in ninety eight with the Jets he went

447
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Speaker 2: twelve and one and threw for twenty nine touchdowns seven picks.

448
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Speaker 2: In the year nineteen eighty eight. Think about how different

449
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Speaker 2: the NFL is Okay Tampa Bay drafts of any Testaverdi

450
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Speaker 2: obviously was he number one overall?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: He was a ninety center. Yeah. In his rookie season,

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Speaker 2: he only gets to start four games. He goes zero

454
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Speaker 2: to four, completes forty three percent of his passes, five touchdowns,

455
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Speaker 2: six picks in a rating of sixty. His second year

456
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Speaker 2: in the league, he starts fifteen games. They go five

457
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Speaker 2: to ten. He completes forty seven percent of his passes

458
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Speaker 2: for thirty two hundred and forty yards, thirteen touchdowns, wait

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Speaker 2: for it, thirty five interceptions. God, he is automatically the

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Speaker 2: starter again the next year, run it back, they go

461
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Speaker 2: five to nine. He completes at this point a career

462
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Speaker 2: high fifty three point eight percent of his passes thirty

463
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Speaker 2: one thirty three, twenty touchdowns, leads a league with twenty

464
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Speaker 2: two picks. Vinnie Testaverdi would not have a season in

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Speaker 2: the National Football League in which he threw more touchdowns

466
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Speaker 2: than interceptions until he turned thirty with the Cleveland Browns

467
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Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety three. In that year, he threw fourteen

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Speaker 2: touchdowns with only nine picks. That's wild. In Tampa Bay,

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Speaker 2: where he was the number one pick, he threw seventy

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Speaker 2: seven touchdowns with one hundred and twelve picks in six seasons,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twelve picks, and he was a starter

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Speaker 2: the whole time.

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Speaker 5: Well you the number that is is son thirty five

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Speaker 5: picks is he was a starter for six years, six years,

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Speaker 5: despite the lack of production. When forty eight, two years

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Speaker 5: and out.

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Speaker 2: Yes, his career rating as a quarterback is rating in

478
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Speaker 2: Tampa was sixty four point four. His career rating seventy five. Yeah,

479
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Speaker 2: you wouldn't make it through now, Peyton Manning wouldn't have

480
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Speaker 2: made it through his rookie year. Now, most likely.

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Speaker 5: He did get better at the end of his rookie year.

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Speaker 5: Sure he through twenty we led the league in picks. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: twenty six.

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Speaker 2: If I Peyton Manning is a rookie, goes three and

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Speaker 2: thirteen throws twenty eight picks. I did throw twenty six touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: but twenty eight picks, yeah, I mean heck Aikman's first

487
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Speaker 2: year was they went one in fifteen his first year.

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Speaker 2: But I'm saying I don't he went oh and eleven

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Speaker 2: through nine touchdowns, eighteen picksh and eleven.

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Speaker 5: Just a different game. Different games, you know, the physicality

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Speaker 5: and the bump and run and.

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Speaker 2: The why so many more interceptions?

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Speaker 5: I think because my hunch is because of the way

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Speaker 5: that you were able to play defense like corner and

495
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Speaker 5: all that could hold them and yeah, you could grip,

496
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Speaker 5: and then you over the middle was illegal, so you

497
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Speaker 5: couldn't use the middle of the field unless you wanted

498
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Speaker 5: your guys to get decapitated. And then The other thing

499
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Speaker 5: is quarterbacks were much more fearful in the pocket because

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Speaker 5: they could get hit high or low anywhere, So like they.

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Speaker 2: Were throwing it up a lot more. It just was

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Speaker 2: more accepting just saying he would would have been benched

503
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Speaker 2: in today. Oh yeah, just a different league. Thirty five

504
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Speaker 2: picks in fifteen games.

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Speaker 5: That is crazy, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: The line that Manning had when got to be the

507
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Speaker 2: most interceptions anybody's in it for throwing a season. Do

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Speaker 2: you think thirty what'd you say? Thirty five gotta be?

509
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't imagine there's more. Yeah, I'm sure there is.

510
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Speaker 5: That we would have had a star by it. But

511
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Speaker 5: feels like, but I remember Manning to bless you Manning

512
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Speaker 5: doing the CJ Shroud game in Street CJ's second year

513
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Speaker 5: on the Manning cast, and he talked about like CJ's numbers,

514
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Speaker 5: like his touchdown interception was like thirty something to.

515
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Speaker 2: Four or whatever it was. This is even the same sport, no,

516
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Speaker 2: that I played. All right, here you go, you ready? Yeah?

517
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Speaker 2: Number one Hall of Famer George Blanda through forty two

518
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Speaker 2: interceptions in nineteen sixty two. Testa Verdi, though in the

519
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Speaker 2: modern game, Testa Verdi is the only person basically since

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Speaker 2: by the way, George Bland had seasons with forty two picks,

521
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Speaker 2: thirty picks. Ken Stabler had a thirty pick season. Was

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Speaker 2: there nobody who? Jamus is the only one in the

523
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Speaker 2: modern game that's had a thirty pick season. Farv had

524
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Speaker 2: twenty nine and two thousand, two thousand and five. Kenny

525
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Speaker 2: Sablor Hall of Famer at thirty two, had thirty in

526
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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy eight, Sid Luckman through thirty one picks in

527
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Speaker 2: nineteen forty seven, Fran Tarkenton through thirty two and seventy eight.

528
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Speaker 2: Benny Tessaverdi is at thirty five in the modern game

529
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Speaker 2: is by far the most. There's a guy named Richard

530
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Speaker 2: Todd who threw thirty for the Jets in nineteen eighty,

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Speaker 2: and Jamis threw thirty in twenty nineteen five of twenty

532
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Speaker 2: nineteen other five, but Bennie's the only Everything else is

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Speaker 2: sixties fifty four. They did even throw a ball that

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Speaker 2: I could he throw forty two picks in nineteen sixty two,

535
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Speaker 2: give it the other team here have it. That's crazy

536
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Speaker 2: Loo And that year blanda sixty two, he threw four

537
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Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen passes. One of every ten passes he

538
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Speaker 2: threw was in the other way he led. Here's a

539
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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 5: Who is the coach who was like, was like, wait

541
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Speaker 5: a second, hey, do we have anyone else who can

542
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Speaker 5: operate a forward pass? Every ten throws George is thrown

543
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Speaker 5: to the other team. There was nobody else who could

544
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Speaker 5: grip a football.

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Speaker 2: Okay, George Blanda.

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Speaker 5: Isn't he also a punter though, or something like he's

547
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Speaker 5: an alto? He's a kicker or something. Blanda, I think

548
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Speaker 5: kick kicked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was kicking. He's probably doing everything. Yeah, he

550
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Speaker 2: was a very good He was a lovely kicker. Sixteen

551
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Speaker 2: of twenty nine and then goes eleven of twenty six. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know that's good. He made fifty percent of

553
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Speaker 2: his kicks. Uh, so, Blandez, I don't know if he's

554
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Speaker 2: a Pro bowler as a quarterback or as a kicker, right,

555
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: neither sounds great. This sounds great. Yeah. So in nineteen

556
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Speaker 2: sixty two he throws for forty and ten yards, twenty

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Speaker 2: seven touchdowns, forty two picks, and is a Pro Bowler

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Speaker 2: and second team All Pro. I'm pretty sure I'm guessing

559
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Speaker 2: it's for quarterback. The next year. He leads the league

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Speaker 2: with three thousand yards and leads the league with twenty

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Speaker 2: five more picks, and is a Pro bowler and second

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Speaker 2: team All Pro.

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Speaker 5: That's wild, bro, I mean, he's been gone for fifteen years,

564
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Speaker 5: so we can't even expand a pount upon like get

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Speaker 5: him on defend his record. George Blanda a couple other

566
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Speaker 5: things to pass along injury updates for Monday's practice. Ethan

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Speaker 5: Postik return to practice Monday. When I asked you if

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Speaker 5: he expects Postic to play on Sunday, Kevin said, yeah,

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Speaker 5: he looks good. Mohammed Yeabatte Blake Whiteheart also practiced yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Mike Hall the only player not participating in practice yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Coach had no updates on Haul after Monday's workout.

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Speaker 2: I want updates on my Hall, and I want updates

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Speaker 2: on Quinn John Jenkins, and I want them to both

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Speaker 2: be positive. Yeah, that's what I would like.

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Speaker 5: We did do some jersey switching around. Dylan Gabriel went

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Speaker 5: from five to eight. So that's the number he wore

577
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Speaker 5: in college at Oregon Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he wore it.

579
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Speaker 5: UCF as well, so he will go to eight that

580
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Speaker 5: was occupied by Kenny Pickett when he was drafted, So

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Speaker 5: we wore five, so five opened up and Rayshean Jenkins

582
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Speaker 5: nabs that he was wearing twenty eight. Previously Isaiah Bond.

583
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Speaker 5: We were curious if he was going to move up.

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Speaker 5: He did, so he goes from eighty one to sixteen.

585
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Speaker 5: Now seven was available, and seven's what he wore at Texas.

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Speaker 2: I'm just guessing maybe that was not open to him

587
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Speaker 2: as an undrafted as.

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Speaker 5: An undrafted free agent, but the teens were sounds like

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Speaker 5: it seems like it.

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of.

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Speaker 5: Weird that we're at a point where as a wide receiver,

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Speaker 5: sixteen is cooler than eighty one.

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Speaker 2: That's Joe mont That's yeah. But I that's indeed where

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Speaker 2: we are. So Bond will be in sixteen, Schmid'll be

595
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Speaker 2: in twenty five, Kicker in twenty five. Have we seen

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Speaker 2: that ever here?

597
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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 2: And that seems very unique to me. Yeah, Bond was

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Speaker 2: seventeen in Alabama, I'm seeing here, yeah, and then seven

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Speaker 2: at Texas and seven at Texas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Aiden Huntington goes from he was sixty six in the preseason.

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Speaker 5: Now he's ninety eight. So that's fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of like I kind of liked too

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Speaker 2: that sixty six kind of cool Route sixty six. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: kind of liked it.

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Speaker 5: So anyway, there you go on your new jerseys that

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Speaker 5: you'll have to be ready for by the time we

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Speaker 5: get to the game on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: We'll go around the league.

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Speaker 5: There's been a lot going on around the league since

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Speaker 5: last week convened. We will get into all of that

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Speaker 2: I've changed Blanda deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 5: Dog nineteen sixty one. At the age of thirty four,

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Speaker 5: he threw for thirty three hundred yards, thirty six touchdowns

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Speaker 5: twenty two picks in eleven games.

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Speaker 2: I got it, Mike, I was throwing three hundred yards

632
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Speaker 2: a game. He's like man nineteen sixty one, will never

633
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Speaker 2: hits the ground either we catch or they catch. He

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Speaker 2: did it with Houston at that point.

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Speaker 5: How about us, Funny, I always remember him in Oakland,

636
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Speaker 5: but yeah, me too. All the quarterbacking was in Houston.

637
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Speaker 5: Primarily made more extra points than anybody as well.

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Speaker 2: There you go in the history of the game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean played forever, kicked forever. All right, we

640
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Speaker 5: go around, is that he still holds that record.

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Speaker 2: That's what's on profole player.

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Speaker 5: That's where that like Vinettieri, wouldn't have broken it. Played

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Speaker 5: forever and played more games and was probably more.

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Speaker 2: He is nine hundred and forty three for nine hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty nine on extra points. That is the gold.

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Speaker 2: Career totals indicate an all time career record.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: There you go. That's incredible.

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Speaker 5: All right, we go around the league. This happened after

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Speaker 5: we were off last weeks.

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Speaker 2: You're off on Friday.

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Speaker 5: Biggest news of the long weekend was all pro pass

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Speaker 5: rush for Michael Parsons. He was dealt to Green Bay.

654
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Speaker 5: I was dead wrong on this. This is one of

655
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Speaker 5: those things I just assumed at the end.

656
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Speaker 2: They broken by a random guy on Twitter that I

657
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Speaker 2: talked about last week. And then also plastic surgeon doctors

658
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Speaker 2: in Dallas knew and posted you haven't seen that? No,

659
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Speaker 2: I say, I'm pretty sure I said that to our

660
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Speaker 2: group chat. I'm pretty sure I did. No, No, you sent

661
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: me that guy. But like I didn't know that that.

662
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Speaker 5: I didn't know anything about a plastic surgeon doctor breaking

663
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Speaker 5: the news.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oh yeah. By the way, vinitary eight seventy

665
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Speaker 2: four for eight ninety eight on extra points, it's about

666
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Speaker 2: seventy fere.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So the deal gets done. Parsons to the Packers

668
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 5: four years, one eighty eight, fifth player in twenty twenty

669
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Speaker 5: five to become the highest paid non quarterback. Of course,

670
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Speaker 5: Miles started that, then Jamar, then TJ. Crosby as well.

671
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Speaker 5: Actually that's a little the order of those are off

672
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Speaker 5: what most recent Chase second most Garrett Crosby before that.

673
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Speaker 5: Also some injury concern though with Micah may need an

674
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Speaker 5: injection is back to help him play because it's some

675
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Speaker 5: sort of some sort of thing in a joint sprain.

676
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Speaker 2: Would you trade some for that? All right, listen, what

677
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Speaker 2: do we do with this? I don't know?

678
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Speaker 5: So he goes it's a seven million dollar bump per

679
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 5: year from what Miles was get Miles got when he

680
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Speaker 5: reset it. Yeah, so it's seven million more. He's four

681
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 5: years younger than Miles Micah is. I think he's twenty six.

682
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Speaker 5: Miles turns thirty, Okay, so I think it's a four

683
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 5: year difference in age.

684
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Speaker 2: On that. It reminds when it got done.

685
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Speaker 5: It reminded me very much of when the Packers got

686
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Speaker 5: Reggie White. Now that was free agency, it wasn't a trade.

687
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Speaker 5: This feels like if you're Green Bay and I'm not

688
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Speaker 5: in charge of their cap, I have no idea what

689
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 5: their cap situation is.

690
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Speaker 2: Twenty six and ninety nine days.

691
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Speaker 5: Okay, But in terms of the give back to Dallas,

692
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Speaker 5: completely doable, complete late, too late one. Yeah, and Ken

693
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Speaker 5: Clark's a good player, he is, but he's in his

694
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Speaker 5: thirties yep, And Okay, in the meantime, we get a

695
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Speaker 5: guy who can just recafflic off the edge.

696
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like day is he?

697
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Speaker 4: Is he a poster child for just a guy who

698
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 4: Kenny Clark?

699
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a three time Pro Bowl He Kenny Clark's

700
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Speaker 2: all right. I just think he's a little older.

701
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Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying.

702
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Speaker 2: At the age, he's.

703
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Speaker 5: Not just a guy, he's a he'll be a starter.

704
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Speaker 5: I mean he's going to start, but he's definitely career No.

705
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Speaker 5: And I think if you would have I saw Breer

706
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 5: with this, six teams reached out on this. This does

707
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Speaker 5: seem to be the worst possible time to trade Micah Parsons.

708
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 5: Why wouldn't they trade at the draft raft or play

709
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 5: it out this year? And his agent even said, uh

710
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 5: this week that he wasn't going to sit out the season,

711
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 5: so he would have played it out this year and

712
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 5: then they would have tried to get Delp after the season,

713
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 5: Like what message are you sending here? Then you have

714
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 5: the awkward Michael Micah press conference last Thursday night, which

715
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 5: was weird, just an odd thing coming off of a

716
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Speaker 5: real high with the Netflix stock for Jarra and then

717
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 5: to have this a really awkward week.

718
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Speaker 2: The Cowboys are going to be the twenty twenty five Bengals.

719
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Speaker 2: I think they are going to score a ton of points.

720
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Speaker 2: I think they're going to give up a ton of points.

721
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Speaker 2: Twenty four Bengals, would I say twenty twenty five? Yeah,

722
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Speaker 2: maybe that last year's could be. They're going to score

723
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Speaker 2: a ton of points. I think ceedee lamb and pickings.

724
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Speaker 2: They're going to put the ball into the end zone

725
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: a lot. I think it's going to be fascinating. Their defense, though,

726
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Speaker 2: I mean, Micah Parsons is a study and.

727
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Speaker 5: You drafted him, Like you can't get in the habit

728
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Speaker 5: of losing players you draft and develop.

729
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Speaker 2: Certainly not ones that are first team All prow oh,

730
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Speaker 2: second team All Pro once, four straight Pro Bowlers, top

731
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Speaker 2: three Defensive Player of the Year, voting two of the

732
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 2: last uh two of the last three years, Defensive Rookie

733
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Speaker 2: of the Year, actually top three in the defensive player

734
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Speaker 2: that you're voting three the last four years. Yeah, that's crazy.

735
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Speaker 5: And to just give it up in the middle of

736
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Speaker 5: his prime. You're the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: You know, like Jerry King, Nike sponsorships, that part of

738
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: the document was fascinating how he basically was just like, yeah,

739
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: this is the league sponsor, these are the Cowboys sponsors,

740
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: and it's crazy done. He just kind of bullied all

741
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Speaker 2: of that through. Yeah.

742
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the other thing you didn't realize. And I think

743
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Speaker 5: he still operates a little bit that way.

744
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: You had.

745
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Speaker 5: I had no idea how financially leveraged he was in

746
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 5: early years, oh early, even as they were winning, you know,

747
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 5: they were like winning super Bowls, Like it really wasn't

748
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 5: until he did the Nike deal and the Pepsi deal

749
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 5: and the AT and T deal individually that he became enriched.

750
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Speaker 5: Was it's that was the last time that you just

751
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 5: didn't realize that.

752
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they open in two days against Philly, that

754
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 5: Dallas and this is this is now very different. So

755
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 5: I think for green Bay, they like their roster so

756
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 5: much that they say, were this away from winning the

757
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 5: super Bowl?

758
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: Otherwise you don't do it. Yeah, they clearly don't think

759
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: they are, but that's kind of been their mission. I

760
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: was telling Kay last night, I'm like, they go to

761
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Speaker 2: win three super Bowls out of four years. The only

762
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Speaker 2: they don't go they lose the Niners in the NFC

763
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Speaker 2: Championship Game, and then they never get back to the

764
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Speaker 2: NFC Championship Game again.

765
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Speaker 5: That's the thing that is so staggering because when you

766
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 5: think about, you know, like his run, you think.

767
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 2: About the purchase for what he purchased it for.

768
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Speaker 5: You think about like firing Landry and saying, this is

769
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 5: the happiest day of my life and all of that.

770
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 5: Then he goes out on a lemon, gets Jimmy that

771
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 5: two of them did the Herschel deal, all of it,

772
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Speaker 5: and you feel like, well, we figured out this whole

773
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Speaker 5: NFL thing out and then all of a sudden, ninety

774
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 5: five comes and goes and you're never close again. And

775
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 5: I think we all just assumed that he was just

776
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 5: driven singularly by this notion of winning a Super Bowl

777
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 5: without anything to do with Jimmy Johnson. But the reality

778
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,479
Speaker 5: is that that's not the way that they operate. They're

779
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 5: not traditionally active in free agency. They always wait to

780
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 5: the last minute to get their guys done where they

781
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 5: lack leverage at the end.

782
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: Part of it is like Dion they gotten free and

783
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Speaker 2: Shei they made a trade for Charles Haley. You just

784
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 2: don't get to make the herschel Walker trade very often

785
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: where you then get to draft all of your team.

786
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: So maybe in his mind he still thinks, well, we

787
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: just built that through the draft, that's what we have

788
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: to do, which is in essence correct. But you're also

789
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: never going to have that many picks again.

790
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 5: You never have a stipulation that says if we cut

791
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 5: the players, we get picks.

792
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have five, Yeah, we have five extra ones. Yeah.

793
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 5: Like no, I don't think we're gonna let you do

794
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 5: that again. And the reality is, and it's funny, you're

795
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 5: not to the end yet, but is this isn't a spoiler?

796
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 5: Is it's quite common sense, Like they're all singularly driven

797
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 5: to try to win one yep. But the reality is

798
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 5: that their roster just is not one that's going to

799
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 5: do it. They just don't have it. They were better

800
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 5: a couple of years ago than they were now. Mike

801
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 5: is you know when they when they just drafted Mike

802
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 5: and he he delivers on all of that promise. Meantime,

803
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 5: Green Bay, you look around the NFC and you go,

804
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 5: why not us?

805
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: Why not?

806
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 5: You know, they believe in their quarterback, they believe in

807
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 5: their weapons and now you're adding a game changer on

808
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 5: defense to.

809
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: A very good defense already, and already it's a top

810
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 2: ten defense list.

811
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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, so now a sudden he gets in and

812
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 5: away you go on that. So yeah, I think that

813
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 5: the NFC North, and of course we're matched up with them,

814
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 5: is just a bulldog. It's just a brutal Every team

815
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 5: in that division is legit and has talent all over

816
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 5: the roster, and now you add one of the best

817
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 5: defensive players in football to it in our division our

818
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 5: speaking of the Cowboys, we'll keep with the Cowboys for

819
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 5: a second. The Cowboys get a deal done with cornerback

820
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 5: Dern Bland four years, ninety two million with fifty million guaranteed.

821
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Speaker 5: It was almost like, okay, we can't pay Parsons, but

822
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Speaker 5: now we've money to do this. And I don't know

823
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 5: is Deran Bland fifty million guaranteed as a corner years ago?

824
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Speaker 2: I don't even he led the league in interceptions and

825
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: he may have had four or five picks it was Diggs, No,

826
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Speaker 2: didn't Did they do that there too? Land in twenty

827
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Speaker 2: twenty three led the league with nine picks and five

828
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Speaker 2: pick sixes, was top five and defensive Player of the

829
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: Year voting was first team All Pro Pro Bowler. He

830
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: got hurt last year after seven games, but that year

831
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three, he was pretty legit. Now there's

832
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 2: no He had five picks as a rookie. So the

833
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: guys played forty one games and has fourteen picks. He

834
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Speaker 2: ever does a pick every three games that he's played

835
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Speaker 2: a lot in his career with five pick sixes. He

836
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: had five pick sixes in a season. There are a

837
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Speaker 2: lot of guys on offense that didn't score five touchdowns

838
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: that year.

839
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Speaker 5: Well, then Trayvon Diggs lead the NFL and receipts and

840
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 5: interceptions two one year with them.

841
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Speaker 2: I think that sounds right.

842
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, Gibbe, give me the thumbs up. I thought he did.

843
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: Diggs led the league in picks in twenty twenty one.

844
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Speaker 2: He had eleven that season. He has had nine in

845
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: his four other seasons combined total. So he had the

846
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: one crazy year. So that and he never had another

847
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 2: season with more than three, whereas Bland went five then nine. Well,

848
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: when did Parsons hit the round pick out of Sacramento

849
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: State Fresno State man? When did what? It's interesting does

850
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: the Parsons got picked in twenty one, right, yeah, twenty one.

851
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Speaker 5: Well, I was just thinking about, you know, because the

852
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 5: year device with.

853
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Speaker 2: Him on the field. Yeah, if that's what you're at,

854
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking.

855
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 5: And then beyond that, I was thinking, like, does what

856
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 5: happened with Mike ahmrr what they did with DeMarcus?

857
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: Where?

858
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 2: But where was there? Four more years?

859
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 5: He was there until he was into his thirties, Yeah,

860
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 5: before going to Denver, and then he had the two

861
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 5: Pro Bowl seasons in Denver in his early thirties. But

862
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 5: I mean he was a cowboy all the way through

863
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 5: his thirty one year old season. Yes, DeMarcus Ware was

864
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 5: so that that isn't even in apples for apples.

865
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: And his last season was the first he had been

866
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: on a run of He had a seven year stretch

867
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Speaker 2: where he had four first team All pros, three second

868
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: team All pros, and then he had a down year

869
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: that thirty one year old year, went to Denver and

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Speaker 2: had his last ten SAX season in twenty fourteen in

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Speaker 2: his first year with Denver.

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Speaker 5: All Right, a couple other things around the league. The

873
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 5: Steelers in running back Jalen Warren, agreed to a two

874
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 5: year extension total value of seventeen and a half seven

875
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Speaker 5: this year. Twelve of it is guaranteed, so their running

876
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 5: back situation is solidified. That's not with Warren and Caleb Johnson.

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00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: That's not a franchise. That's not like you're the guy

878
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: period money. No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 5: It'll be a split over there and and he'll be

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Speaker 5: a part of it. I don't know if this is

881
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Speaker 5: a prize or not. With the Giants, Jackson Dart is

882
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Speaker 5: listed as the backup quarterback on the Giants deep chart.

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Speaker 5: Russell Wilson will start. Former Browns quarterback Jamis Winston will

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Speaker 5: be QB.

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Speaker 2: Three With New York, they're an interesting one, and people

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Speaker 2: in New York at turnround and be like say the

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Speaker 2: same thing about us. Now we didn't draft a quarterback

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Speaker 2: in the first round, so I don't think it's quite

889
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: the same. Like what's the point what's the point of

890
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: them playing Russell Wilson? I have no idea.

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00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 5: I mean that's what jumped out to me, Like there's

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Speaker 5: no possibilities there, you like Dart, I don't. I guess,

893
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 5: to be fair like us, I don't know how their

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Speaker 5: season starts, Like, I don't know if it's a murderer's

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Speaker 5: row out of the gates for them, and they don't

896
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Speaker 5: want to put the kid in a bad spot because

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Speaker 5: I think we're getting smarter there. Oh okay, So they

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Speaker 5: go at Commi's Sunday, They're at Cowboys the next week,

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Speaker 5: They're Chiefs at home the next week, then Chargers at home,

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Speaker 5: then they're at Saints.

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Speaker 2: So is four.

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Speaker 5: You could go four games and switch and then go

903
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Speaker 5: to Saints, although then you have the Eagles at home

904
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Speaker 5: on in primetime Eagles two out of the three, with

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Speaker 5: the Broncos in there as well.

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Speaker 2: So Russell Wilson has started fifty four games in the

907
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: last four seasons. Any idea what his record? What do

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00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: you think his record might be? Fifty four fifty four games.

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00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go twenty and thirty four, twenty two and

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00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: thirty two. That's like, what's yeah, what's the points point? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know what the point is on that,

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Speaker 5: but nevertheless, that's the way that's going to go. H

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932
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 5: after practice, Well Ethan back out.

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Speaker 1: There is the hope that nextpect the issue that I

934
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: feel like he's going to be able to play on something.

935
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks good, he's rehab. Very hard to put you.

936
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Speaker 3: Did you go to the house, Yes? I did. Yeah,

937
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Speaker 3: great experience, Uh, great job coach day and in that cruise.

938
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 3: That's really the first big time college football game I've

939
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 3: ever been to with all respective and Quakers.

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Speaker 7: Uh. So it was fun for me to be able

941
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Speaker 7: to take my boy my boys down there. I had

942
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Speaker 7: a blast.

943
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 3: The show was rocking, very good.

944
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 6: And what about.

945
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 7: Yet no update, Just continuing to work very hard to

946
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Speaker 7: bring you see who's out here.

947
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Speaker 3: Did did some good work. Still I don't have appens

948
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Speaker 3: to show.

949
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I can't get into America.

950
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Speaker 8: Had even flee sort of true vision into full I mean,

951
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 8: is this sort of one of those weird days?

952
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Speaker 3: Not quite a week, but I mean next game week.

953
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Speaker 7: Now, what we did today was mostly browns versus browns,

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Speaker 7: meaning competitive periods are ones.

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Speaker 3: Versus ones, and.

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Speaker 7: That's in an effort to get the weekend out of

957
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 7: our guys and then sharpen.

958
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Speaker 3: Up what we're doing from a competitive standpoint. Now.

959
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 7: A lot of the stuff that we introduced on offensive

960
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 7: defense was stuff that will be when we hand these

961
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 7: hands to get to play. So we're trying to do both,

962
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Speaker 7: but you're never want of those sight of competing.

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Speaker 3: I thought our guys did a nice job.

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Speaker 7: How's Isaiah vond caught up to speak? Since he's yeah,

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Speaker 7: caught up mentally, no issues, Very intelligent kid is working

966
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Speaker 7: a lot of extra hours and time with coach Osha

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Speaker 7: and coach Bravo Brown to get caught up, and he's

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Speaker 7: very intelligent.

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00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 3: So he's up to speak. Yeah, doing a nice job.

970
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 3: Worked hard just to get.

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Speaker 7: Back out there, and he's feel like he's been out

972
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Speaker 7: here for a while now, just getting acclimated.

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Speaker 3: But it feels good. I think, Yeah, Gregg's a frank

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Speaker 3: football player.

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Speaker 7: Where he lines up really it doesn't matter so much

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Speaker 7: as he's talented and personal enough to do both.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see where where we kind of deploy him

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Speaker 3: as the season goes on. But he's able to.

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Speaker 9: Do both unless you about balance right before. But through

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Speaker 9: the first week season, an injury looks to beek one.

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Speaker 9: What has he shown you in terms of getting back

982
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Speaker 9: from that injury, how he's tackled it and approach that

983
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 9: that job, wanting to get that that starting role.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Cam, that injury is really in his past. He's

985
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Speaker 7: really moved past. It's work so hard in the off

986
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Speaker 7: season to get ready. So I see a guy's moving

987
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Speaker 7: really well and we know he can get him with

988
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Speaker 7: power and mom with.

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Speaker 3: Speed, but but he looks really looks like himself, kennast

990
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Speaker 3: to keep the turney starting.

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Speaker 7: He's a big He's a player that makes a big plays.

992
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 3: He's has the speed to go the distance on a

993
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: given time he touches the rock.

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Speaker 7: He's not immationed me as kick return for us when

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00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 7: he hadn't done in the past. Involved worked hard at

996
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 7: that and developed a little good return.

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Speaker 3: So he's a guy that we can.

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Speaker 7: Trust in the run game, trust in the past game,

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00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 7: and has the elite trade of speaking. I'm excited for

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Speaker 7: the football team, Mark, I'm excited for all the work

1001
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 7: that these guys have put in. It's a group, like

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00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 7: I mentioned before, that has done everything we've asked to do.

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Speaker 7: So it's fun when you get to this point in

1004
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 7: the in the calendar and you have that game that's

1005
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 7: within a week and you're in the game week and

1006
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 7: you get to see these guys in the roles that

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00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 7: they've earned.

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00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 3: But for me, it's never never moves past very far.

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Speaker 7: The idea that these guys have work is so hard

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00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 7: for this in the games and that this is the

1011
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 7: fun part from them. It's the fun part for he

1012
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 7: consider you and your guys to But you know, open

1013
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 7: this season at home.

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00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 3: Down there on the Lake. Yeah, very lucky. We like,

1015
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 3: you know, playing in front of our.

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Speaker 7: Fans, and you know it's week one and it's gonna

1017
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 7: be a beautiful day down there, so we'll have a

1018
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 7: break ground down there, and.

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00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 3: They make a huge difference for us.

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00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 7: It's a it's a tough place to play visitors. We

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00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 7: have a tough time operating in that crowds and.

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Speaker 3: Dog down the Rocket Kevin, I know Rocket City didn't

1023
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 3: this week. And as we can include trying.

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Speaker 8: To you know, kid get up to speed and get

1025
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Speaker 8: in play with.

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00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 3: How much more difference did you notice?

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00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 7: Just you know from the first that you had a

1028
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 7: very intelligent kid. So he's picking everything up very quickly.

1029
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 7: Be able to spend so much of time with him

1030
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 7: to day to catch him up.

1031
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 3: But he's very intelligent. So it support work hardhead.

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Speaker 5: All right, there you go, coach from the podium after

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Speaker 5: Monday's practice, coming up at the top of the hour,

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Speaker 5: Our good buddy ESPN NFL insider Dan Graziano to preview

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00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,120
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1049
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,479
Speaker 5: joining us there. Dan, thank you so much for taking

1050
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 5: the time, my friend. What is your favorite storyline to

1051
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 5: kick off this season?

1052
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 6: Chavis Hunter? I just I can't wait to see how

1053
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 6: this works in Jacksonville, Like, is he going to play

1054
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 6: both ways? If so, like, what does that look like

1055
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 6: week to week?

1056
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 6: You know, does he have to does he have to

1058
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 6: play more offense one week and more defense than next,

1059
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Speaker 6: depending on the ponent, depending on injury situation with his

1060
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 6: own team. I just think this is this is unprecedented

1061
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 6: in a lot of ways, and I can't wait to

1062
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 6: see it. In fact, I'm actually heading down there tomorrow

1063
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Speaker 6: to interview him for a Sunday Countdown features so kind

1064
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 6: of geared up.

1065
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 2: We really didn't get to get much of an insight

1066
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: in the preseason, like is there a one in which

1067
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 2: that he plays, you know, full time on offense and

1068
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: halftime on defense? You know what, what are what are

1069
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 2: kind of your expectations for what it's going to look like.

1070
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Speaker 6: So when I visited their camp, it was it was

1071
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 6: end of July, so they were just kind of still

1072
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Speaker 6: sort of sorting it out. They hadn't really had a

1073
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 6: practice yet where he played on both sides. So I

1074
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 6: think what they would tell you is they want they

1075
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Speaker 6: want to give him as much as possible of both

1076
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 6: so they can assess it and once they do that,

1077
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Speaker 6: once they figure out, oh, yeah he can handle this,

1078
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Speaker 6: Like well maybe he's a maybe it's a slot, right,

1079
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 6: maybe he's he's more of an outside receiver, all that

1080
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Speaker 6: kind of stuff. So they know what they can do

1081
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Speaker 6: and then they make the game plan according to that

1082
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Speaker 6: and according to the circumstances. So you know, they gave

1083
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Speaker 6: him a lot of offense in the spring because they

1084
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Speaker 6: just felt like the offense, you know, it's like a

1085
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 6: lot of classroom time, and the offense is more sort

1086
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 6: of you know, geared towards that, and they thought it

1087
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 6: would be a little more complicated to learn. But then

1088
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 6: they gave him a bunch of defense in training camp,

1089
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 6: and yeah, he had he had some kind of injury

1090
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 6: that kept him out of their last preseason games, so

1091
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 6: you didn't get to see it. But uh, I think

1092
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 6: he's full steam ahead from what I understand, and you know,

1093
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 6: we'll see. I think he's gonna play. They like him

1094
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 6: at receiver. I think he's going to probably major in that.

1095
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 6: But there could be weeks where they say, oh, we're

1096
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 6: playing the Bengals, we need more corners this week, right,

1097
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 6: and so maybe they'll give them a little more defense.

1098
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 6: I just I think it's I think it's gonna be

1099
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,479
Speaker 6: fascinating to find out. And I think the Jaguars feel

1100
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 6: the same way.

1101
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: It is gonna be fascinating to find out. Dan, I

1102
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 2: have to ask you about, you know, how you got

1103
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 2: the short and the stick. I was watching you this

1104
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 2: morning and and and your partners out there on a

1105
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: golf course or certainly maybe in a clubhouse. Giving you

1106
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: some shade there, mister Saturday about overreaction Tuesday, Well, you're there,

1107
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 2: hard work, and they surprise you at this video. I mean,

1108
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: come on, I have about a little respect for Dan Grasiano, folks.

1109
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 6: I mean it's nice, you know, the former players, they

1110
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 6: just shut it down for the off season and they

1111
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 6: show up again in September. Yeah, the rest of us

1112
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 6: have been kind of slaving away all summer. I mean,

1113
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 6: we'll still be shows guys, you know, like so, but

1114
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 6: it's nice that Jeff is waking up and joining us

1115
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 6: again next week. I can't wait to see him. Two

1116
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 6: days of my favorite.

1117
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 3: With Jeff at overreaction.

1118
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 6: To those are yeah, those get up days that those

1119
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 6: two guys are just awesome.

1120
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 3: Dan.

1121
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 5: And the kind of big picture themes around the league

1122
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 5: this season. I think about Baltimore and Buffalo, and I

1123
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 5: think if you ask them, you could probably put Cincinnati

1124
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 5: in that mix, maybe Pittsburgh as well, just all chips

1125
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 5: into the middle of the table to try to track

1126
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 5: down Kansas City and bust through on that. Obviously Burrow's

1127
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 5: done it, He's the only one of that group has

1128
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 5: actually done it. But I just think immense pressure in

1129
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 5: those camps. What's kind of your feeling at the top

1130
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 5: of the AFC as everybody tries to track down Kansas City.

1131
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Baltimore looks just completely loaded on taper.

1132
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 6: I just I don't really see a weakness there. If

1133
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 6: they stay healthy, they should be as good as anybody.

1134
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 6: I think Buffalo, you can say the same. Might be

1135
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 6: a little bit of how the certain aspects of their

1136
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 6: defense come together, just when you look at their personnel,

1137
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 6: but their coaching staff has proven an ability to, as

1138
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 6: the season goes along, solve their problems. And Buffalo schedule, guys,

1139
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,959
Speaker 6: is crazy soft. I mean they leave the Eastern time

1140
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 6: zone once all year, and I think they only play

1141
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 6: six games against teams that made the playoffs last year,

1142
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,439
Speaker 6: so they they're set up to get their one seed,

1143
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 6: whereas Baltimore's got to slug it out in the AFC.

1144
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 6: North Cincinnati. Did they fix the defense, because that offense

1145
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 6: is elite and the defense, you know, they went nine

1146
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 6: to eight last year and couldn't stop anybody. So the

1147
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 6: defense is just like top twenty, right, Like, that's not

1148
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 6: crazy to think they could be super dangerous. I'm not.

1149
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 6: I got to see it before I believe it. With Pittsburgh,

1150
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 6: like I just you have forty one year old Aaron

1151
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 6: Rodgers and a whole bunch of new pieces on offense.

1152
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 6: You know, we'll all sort of find out together. But yeah,

1153
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 6: and then and then Kansas City, who, by the way,

1154
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 6: if Patrick Mahomes were to lose the AFC Championship Game

1155
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 6: in regulation, it would be his earliest playoff exit ever.

1156
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 6: Think about that, like that that's true. He has never

1157
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 6: not at least on overtime in the AFC Championship Game.

1158
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 6: I think the division, right, is Denver good enough to

1159
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 6: push them? Are the Chargers good enough to push them?

1160
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 6: You know, Carol's Raiders aren't going to be a lot

1161
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 6: of fun to play, I don't think. I mean, they

1162
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 6: may not be a contender just yet, but I think

1163
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 6: the division's getting tougher, and yeah, everybody's gearing up to

1164
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 6: take their shot at Kansas City.

1165
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 2: Is there a team in the AFC that is not

1166
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: being talked about enough or that you think is flying

1167
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 2: under the radar and can be a real contender, A.

1168
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 6: Real contender with those teams like that's tough, like people

1169
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 6: are hard.

1170
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 2: Are just somebody that we're not talking about that you

1171
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: think you think is better than people are giving them

1172
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 2: credit for.

1173
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 6: I think I don't know. I don't know if Miami

1174
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 6: is going to be good, but the defenses seems to

1175
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 6: be that they're gonna stink, and I'm just not sure.

1176
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 6: Like they started two and six last year and then

1177
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 6: rebounded to win six of the next eighty. When two

1178
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 6: has been healthy, they've generally won games since Michael Daniel's

1179
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 6: been there, So they're still you know, they have a

1180
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 6: lot of injuries on the back end of the defense,

1181
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 6: and we'll see maybe it all falls apart. But I

1182
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 6: don't know that team could be better than people think,

1183
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 6: especially if Tyreek Hill bounces back and he's with the program.

1184
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 6: I think a lot of people like the Patriots, but

1185
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 6: these are teams that can make noise and maybe grab

1186
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 6: a wild card spot. Pittsburgh, you know, obviously always a

1187
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 6: threat there the South Division. I don't know they're usually

1188
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 6: probably one team out of there. But it's a big jump,

1189
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 6: Like it's conceivable to me that the Patriots of the

1190
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 6: Dolphins could be a playoffs. It's harder for me to

1191
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 6: get to the Patriots of the Dolphins can take out

1192
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 6: the Ravens in the playoffs. You know, Like that's a

1193
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 6: bigger jump. I think the very top of the AFC

1194
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 6: right now is a super elite tier.

1195
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 2: How about Denver because they're a team that seems to

1196
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: get some of that buzzes maybe being a team that

1197
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 2: could do that.

1198
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 6: So great defense coached by Vance Joseph. I'm an elite

1199
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 6: defense that added a couple of key pieces Super Bowl

1200
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 6: season's pieces from the forty nine ers right in Trey

1201
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 6: Greenlaw and Telenoa Hufuna. So they should be great on

1202
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 6: defense if bo Nicks continues to build on what he

1203
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 6: did over the second half of last season. Sure, I

1204
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 6: mean arrow up for the offense with Sean Payton coaching

1205
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 6: it not much not to like they did beat up

1206
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 6: on a little bit of a soft schedule last year,

1207
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 6: and they did, you know, have a little bit tougher

1208
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 6: time when they they had to slug it out against

1209
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 6: the Bengals, who beat them there in Week seventeen in

1210
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 6: a shootout. So you know, we'll see, we'll see if

1211
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 6: they hold up over the course of a full season

1212
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 6: or if you know, sometimes that second year with the quarterbacks,

1213
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 6: you could take a little bit of a dip before

1214
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 6: coming back up. But yeah, I mean, we'll see that that.

1215
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 6: I would think if you talk about an AFC team

1216
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 6: that you don't perceive as one of the Elite three

1217
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 6: or four, that's probably the strongest candidate to join that

1218
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 6: group this year.

1219
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 5: Okay, Dann When you take a look at the NFC

1220
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 5: obviously that where you had no notes on Baltimore and

1221
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 5: my guess there isn't many notes on Philly, and they

1222
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 5: kind of seemed like the class. But that that NFC

1223
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 5: North got real serious in a hurry. All those teams

1224
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 5: look pretty good to us. And then the massive deal

1225
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 5: that happens last week. Does that Does that elevate green

1226
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 5: Bay in your mind? And what was Jerry thinking on

1227
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 5: the other side?

1228
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 6: It elevates green Bay. I already had a high opinion

1229
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 6: of green Bay, but this is a this is a

1230
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,439
Speaker 6: potentially a massive missing piece that could they could vault

1231
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 6: them into. So green Bay last year they lost seven games,

1232
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 6: and one was a throwaway at the end that they

1233
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 6: didn't play their starters against the Bears. The other six

1234
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 6: they lost twice to the Lions, twice to the Vikings,

1235
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 6: and twice to the Eagles. Counting the playoffs. That's it.

1236
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 6: The only teams they lost to in games they were

1237
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 6: trying to win with a were to the top three

1238
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 6: teams in the NFC, So they feel like they got

1239
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 6: to do something to get to that level and passed it.

1240
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 6: They have the youngest roster in the league. It actually

1241
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 6: got younger with the Michael Parsons trade because they traded

1242
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 6: a thirty year old Kenny Clark for a twenty six

1243
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 6: year old Michah Parsons. But they believe they're they're right there,

1244
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 6: that Jordan Loved truly healthy. Remember he got hurt in

1245
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 6: Week one last year. Brazil missed a couple of games

1246
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 6: and struggled a little bit when he came back. But

1247
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 6: if he's fully healthy. They drafted him a number one

1248
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 6: wide receiver in Matthew Golden in the first round. They

1249
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 6: think that they believe in their coaching second year, in

1250
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 6: the defensive scheme that Jeff Hackley installed there last year,

1251
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 6: I think I think the Packers. I said last week

1252
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 6: the thing I didn't like about the Michael Parsons trade

1253
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 6: was that I was going to pick the Packers to

1254
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 6: win the NFC, and now everybody is, and I don't

1255
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 6: feel like it's going to make me seem as smart.

1256
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 6: But yeah, Jerry, you know, I think he just got

1257
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 6: sick of the guy like he had. He's come out,

1258
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 6: Jerry's come out and said he thought we thought we

1259
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 6: had a deal in March. They thought that Micaeh and

1260
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 6: his agent went back on it. Micah and his agent

1261
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 6: obviously dispute the account. We'll probably never know the truth

1262
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 6: because I don't think there was a running tape recorder

1263
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 6: in there when they had that meeting. So but I

1264
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 6: think it just got to the point where the Cowboys

1265
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 6: are a, look, we're already paying back sixty million a year.

1266
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 6: We're already paying Ceedee Lamb thirty four million a year.

1267
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 6: If we got to pay this guy forty to forty

1268
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 6: five million a year, then we got a really I mean,

1269
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 6: we're going to really need to crush it with our

1270
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,439
Speaker 6: draft picks. They were willing to do it, but once

1271
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 6: it became a pain, I think they just sort of

1272
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 6: pivoted and said, look, all right, if this is everything

1273
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 6: that comes with this, then maybe we don't want to

1274
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 6: be in this business long term. I don't think it's

1275
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 6: a desensible decision. He's an elite player and you keep

1276
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 6: those but you know they I'm watching that Netflix documentary.

1277
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 6: I mean, it's the same guy that fired Jimmy Johnson

1278
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 6: after he won two straight Super Bowls. So you know, Jerry,

1279
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 6: Jerry makes up his mind. That's it.

1280
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 2: That is it, that's that is exactly what he does.

1281
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 3: All right.

1282
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about the NFC West because

1283
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: it's a division. I obviously grew up being a big fan.

1284
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: Obviously the forty nine ers quite prominently in that documentary

1285
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: on Dallas Cowboys. It just feels to me like this

1286
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 2: one is maybe wide open. Yeah, what do you think

1287
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 2: about this division?

1288
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 6: I think I think it's wide open. I would not

1289
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 6: be surprised if those four teams finished in any order

1290
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 6: at all. Like I would not be surprised as the

1291
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 6: Seahawks won the division. I would not be surprised as

1292
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 6: the Cardinals won the division. I think you would favor

1293
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 6: the Rams if you felt really good about Stafford's back.

1294
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 6: But you know, it's still a defense that was last

1295
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,919
Speaker 6: seen just sort of like staring with their mouths open

1296
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 6: while Saquon Barkley just tore right through them. So they

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Speaker 6: got some things to clean up on that side of

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Speaker 6: the ball. And they're young on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 6: So we'll see how that comes together. And the forty

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Speaker 6: nine ers. You know, if Christian McCaffrey and Trent Williams

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Speaker 6: are healthy, that becomes a much different team than we

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Speaker 6: saw last year when all those injuries hit. So yeah,

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Speaker 6: Arizona in year three of the Jonathan Gannon program, Drew

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Speaker 6: Petsing as the offensive coordinator, Kyler Murray another year removed

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Speaker 6: from his injury. It's kind of time for them to

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Speaker 6: show it if they're ever going too. They were a

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Speaker 6: top ten offense by a lot of metrics last year,

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Speaker 6: and if they can get even better than that and

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Speaker 6: get more consistent and involve Marvin Harrison Junior a little

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Speaker 6: bit more regularly and more consistently, I think they can

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Speaker 6: be very dangerous on offense. And we'll see if they

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Speaker 6: added enough pieces on defense.

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Speaker 2: People are into that.

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Speaker 10: I said, a Cardinals want to short change Seattle, They'll

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Speaker 10: let me change the Seattle's Seattle's gonna play great defense

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Speaker 10: under Mike McDonald and then you know, can Sam Darnold

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Speaker 10: do anything like what he did last year in Minnesota?

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Speaker 2: Speaking of it, and so what do you make of

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Speaker 2: the Vikings what it feels like? Not a whole lot

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Speaker 2: about JJ McCarthy as the team that was very good

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Speaker 2: last year, very productive. They're going to have to start

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Speaker 2: the season without Jordan Addison. They bring back Adam Thielen,

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Speaker 2: great defense under Brian Floores. But JJ McCarthy's kind of

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01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 2: going to be the lynch pin if you kind of

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01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 2: want to what's kind of the scuttle butt with him

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Speaker 2: and their expectations in another division? I think the NFC

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Speaker 2: norths top to bottom. They're loaded with talent.

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Speaker 6: Oh sure, if you believe in Ben Johnson and Caleb

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Speaker 6: Williams and the Bear's ability to take a step from

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Speaker 6: ye top to bottom. For sure. Minnesota. You know, you

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Speaker 6: guys know that Minnesota is the only team in the

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Speaker 6: league that's had at least thirty touchdown passes in each

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Speaker 6: of the last three years. And that is involved one

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Speaker 6: year with Kirk Cousins, one year with Cousins slash Nick

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01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 6: Mullens slash Josh Dobbs one year with Sam Darnold. So

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Speaker 6: whoever's playing quarterback in Minnesota for Kevin O'Connell has gotten

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Speaker 6: the job done. Now, on one hand, that gives you

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Speaker 6: a lot of faith in JJ McCarthy because you have

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Speaker 6: the faith in Kevin O'Connell and you know Josh McCown

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Speaker 6: and that whole coaching staff there. On the other hand,

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Speaker 6: it puts a lot of pressure on JJ McCarthy to

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Speaker 6: keep that train on the track. That's a fourteen win

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Speaker 6: team last year, and so you know if they dipped

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Speaker 6: to ten and still make the playoffs as a wild card,

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Speaker 6: it's that of disappointment. And does that say that that

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Speaker 6: JJ wasn't up to the job. I mean, I've heard

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Speaker 6: nothing but positives out of there JJ. Of course, it's

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Speaker 6: very positive people, Kevin O'Connell and his staff. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: we'll see Monday night game. You know, not to not

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Speaker 6: to just go all sort of company man.

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Speaker 3: On everybody here, but it's a good one.

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Speaker 6: Taking McCarthy Caleb Williams in prime time on Monday night.

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01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 6: I mean that's gonna be musty TV.

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Speaker 5: I'll get you out of here on this one, and

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Speaker 5: we're gonna put this in sharpie on our skin and

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Speaker 5: then tattoo it on our skin permanently. Uh, you're AFC

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Speaker 5: and NFC champions and your Super Bowl winner.

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Speaker 2: What do you got, buddy?

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Speaker 6: Buffalo, Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo, Get Buffalo, get done. Let's go. They're so easy

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Speaker 2: to root for. Yes, hey, man, enjoy it. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: you so much. Thanks for your time.

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Speaker 6: Always enjoy spending a little time with you guys. Thanks

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Speaker 6: for having me.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 5: It's the great ESPN NFL insider Dan Graziano joining us

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Speaker 5: that we headhuncher. We mapping that up for.

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Speaker 4: Upping things out. Thursday Friday are gonna be a loaded

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Speaker 4: We're loaded up.

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Speaker 2: Maybe tomorrow, maybe we get it all in tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Well, we got college football Nate. It's like turn the page.

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Speaker 2: We can do college football Nate next if you want.

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Speaker 2: We can do college football Nates. The depth chart.

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Speaker 4: No, collegeball Nate's normally a Wednesday. I like it, but

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Speaker 4: this is a compressed week.

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Speaker 2: We may have to go where your mapping is let

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Speaker 2: me know where your map.

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Speaker 4: Is, all right, I mean we have over unders, we

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Speaker 4: got scores, we got so you want to do the

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Speaker 4: depth chart next?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, unofficial depth chart is out. We will go over

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Speaker 5: of the twenty twenty five NFL season in front of us.

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Speaker 5: Doc to Z offensively go.

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Speaker 2: I mean this is the depth chart. What would I don't?

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Speaker 2: What would you like me to say about it? I

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Speaker 2: mean it seems pretty accurate to me. I would say

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Speaker 2: your offensive line. Obviously, those are your starters. I mean

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Speaker 2: I know what you'd say. Tillman and Judy will be

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Speaker 2: your top two receivers. Th Ration will work in Isaiah

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Speaker 2: Bond will work in receiver as well. I think that

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Speaker 2: will probably be the four. Maybe you could see some

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Speaker 2: DeAndre Carter or Gage Larvadam, but my guess is one

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Speaker 2: of those will be inactive. You'll see a ton of

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Speaker 2: twelve personnel with Nadjoku and fan news List's backup probably

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Speaker 2: is a starter. And then I think you're gonna see

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Speaker 2: all three running backs. You see Dylan Sampson, you're gonna

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01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 2: see Jerome Ford, and you're gonna see Rocket Sanders. So

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Speaker 2: I think that's kind of your whole squad right there.

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Speaker 2: Do you think you've come out in twelve? Yeah, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna pay a ton in twelve twelve. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if the first snap will be twelve, but we're gonna play.

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Speaker 2: You know, Whippler's your backup center. I'd be curious if

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Speaker 2: Botonio or Teller goes down, who would go in first,

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Speaker 2: Jenkins or Zenter. My guess is Jenkins, But they drafted

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Speaker 2: Zinner and they love Zinner, so we'll see Lucas is

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Speaker 2: definitely your first tackle up. Levis in second. So that's

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Speaker 2: kind of where you are there. Offensively. Defensively, it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be waves. They call it the alpha group and the

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Speaker 2: Beta group, which I don't think that's actually right. I

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Speaker 2: think it's two different names. It's the Alpha's and the dogs.

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Speaker 2: Who knows, but there's two waves. I think you're gonna

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01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 2: see here. It looks like Alex Right will be there.

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01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 2: McGuire's gonna working with them, Huntington, Shelby, Harris with no

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01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 2: my call. You're going to see all these guys. You

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01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 2: could even see Cam Thomas. They could all be up.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to see my call though, moved out of

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Speaker 2: the brackets and get him healthy. And I'd also like

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Speaker 2: to write a name right here, Queen John throw him

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Speaker 2: in that running bad? Are you with Hall? When's our

1451
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 2: last update on him? We haven't gotten one other than

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Speaker 2: he passed his physicals added to the fifty three.

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Speaker 4: So he did not practice yesterday right and coach said, hey,

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Speaker 4: he's working hard, he's doing everything that we're happy with

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Speaker 4: where he's at. So I don't know if that means

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Speaker 4: we didn't want to put him on the pup list

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01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 4: because he missed the first four weeks and we think

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Speaker 4: he can come back and under.

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Speaker 3: That, or.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that they believe he'll be back before then.

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01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 2: We just haven't gotten an update of as what it

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01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 2: is yet. Browns did just make a roster move. They've

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Speaker 2: waived Pierre Strong from injured reserve. He had reverted to

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Speaker 2: IR after clearing week happened on the show. How about it?

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Speaker 5: How about that threeho six? What a time to be alive? Kids,

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01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 5: What a time to be alive? Will five oh six

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Speaker 5: be the new three oh six?

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Speaker 2: Maybe could be? Could could be. Defensively, my mood diabatees

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Speaker 2: you'r Sam, You're Mike Sweeshinger. Your will's Devin bush Baker,

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Speaker 2: I think could get some action as well, mixing in

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Speaker 2: as a will linebacker. Knew some ward. Your two starting

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Speaker 2: corners on the outside, I think Miles Harden is going

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Speaker 2: to be your starter, and the nickel, and then Grant

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Speaker 2: Delpit and Hickman and your dime safety I think is

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Speaker 2: going to be Rayshon Jenkins.

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Speaker 5: To begin the season, I would say we won't be

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Speaker 5: we won't be in base often and this weekend almost none.

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Speaker 2: But when we are.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that I've ever seen a linebacker room

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Speaker 5: as is thrown out there first.

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Speaker 2: Forty three forty that's some intro.

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Speaker 5: It's a I mean, I've never seen a forty three

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Speaker 5: forty nine thirty number combination out of the linebacker room.

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Speaker 5: To have an entire linebacker room in the two deep

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Speaker 5: that does not have a fifty is pretty crazy. So

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Speaker 5: forty three, forty nine, thirty Bakers seventeen Mascaranus Arnold is

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Speaker 5: forty two.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 5: So not a single fifty in the end of fifty.

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Speaker 2: One and fifty seven in the d line room.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's wild how things have changed though to

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Speaker 5: not have.

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Speaker 2: A single one? Do we not have a fifty two?

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Speaker 2: Not in the depth chart? No? No, I don't see one.

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Speaker 2: I feel like, wouldn't that be like if you're a

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Speaker 2: linebacker when it's fifty two? Not a cool linebacker number? Feels?

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Speaker 2: I think?

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Speaker 5: I think that they all want to be single digits

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Speaker 5: and teens, Yeah, is where they all want to be.

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Speaker 5: And and so that's and then in just a matter

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Speaker 5: of is that those numbers available when you rotate through

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Speaker 5: I mean yeah, I mean we got linebacker numbers at

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Speaker 5: center Postik fifty five, Whipler fifty six, but fifty two

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Speaker 5: is Ray Lewis, yeah, Patrick Willis, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Bobby Wagner was what fifty four? Fifty four to fifty four? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all those numbers are available. Yeah, Singletary was fifty that's

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Speaker 2: Rex Sunahara. Yeah, we've never had a kicker at twenty five. No,

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01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. Feels like you said, Yeah,

1509
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 2: I wonder to guess he didn't want to go seven

1510
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 2: right after d hop like take his job, take his number.

1511
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 2: Maybe they didn't let him. Twenty five is definitely an

1512
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 2: interesting to Metric felt in the last twenty five that

1513
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 2: Dmitri was twenty five. Yeah, yeah, to Metric Felton UCLA,

1514
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah he was. He was for a couple of moments.

1515
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 2: He had a couple of moments. He sure definitely had

1516
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 2: a couple of moments. He had at least one two

1517
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 2: touchdown game.

1518
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there you go. Remember the one that matters

1519
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 5: will be what Friday. That's when we're really paying attention to,

1520
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 5: is the Friday depth chart, injury report.

1521
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 2: That's the injury report. Yeah, you're not going to take this,

1522
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 2: my guess is the only person. I think you're not

1523
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 2: going to have my call. So it seems like right now,

1524
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 2: but Wednesday's obviously a big day. If he can get

1525
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 2: back out there Wednesday, then he could be he could

1526
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 2: be good to go for Friday. And that's the other

1527
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 2: thing too, with like quinchean like let's go, because if

1528
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 2: you can get him back and get him in practice

1529
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 2: by when they he could have a roll by. As

1530
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 2: long as he's been in shape, he could have a

1531
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 2: roll by. We're still in the dark on all of that.

1532
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 5: Like, I don't understand it, and I don't either, And

1533
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 5: I assume that Quincheon is there must be some communication

1534
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 5: with him. Obviously you're trying to get a deal done,

1535
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 5: but you assume that he's in good shape and he's

1536
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 5: doing all of those things to where he could come

1537
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 5: in at a moment's notice.

1538
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 2: But it's just.

1539
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 5: Crazy to me that we sit here on the Tuesday

1540
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 5: of the game week and he's been cleared for now

1541
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 5: three weeks.

1542
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 2: Isn't this a third week? It was when we were

1543
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 2: in Philly, so Philly, right at the end of the

1544
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 2: Philly week, and then you have the whole Rams week

1545
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 2: this week. Yeah, this is We're into the third week,

1546
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 2: into the third week. Yeah, it doesn't. And there I'm

1547
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 2: obviously you know, it's got to be a haggle over

1548
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 2: something relative to the guaranteed money or the language and

1549
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 2: the contract if the guarantees would be avoided when suspension

1550
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 2: is handed down. I don't think he should be getting

1551
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 2: suspended at all. I think that's obviously that's when we've

1552
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 2: talked about this at NAZI, right, I mean he was exact,

1553
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 2: no charges, insufficient evidence, conflicting evidence.

1554
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 3: What.

1555
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 2: I don't know why the NFL needs to legislate that,

1556
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 2: but yeah, they do, or they will. It's usually the

1557
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 2: way that let's just go over with you. By the way,

1558
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 2: if you do is look at his contract. What he's

1559
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 2: guaranteed contract over four seasons. You know, it's it's a

1560
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 2: pretty significant chunk of change. Yeah. Yeah, and when you

1561
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,799
Speaker 2: start missing games. And I know he got paid nicely

1562
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 2: at Ohio State, but people who make usually have kind

1563
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 2: of some you know, expensive tastes as well. Like if

1564
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 2: you look at Jayden Higgins, you know his first year,

1565
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 2: which is basically a similar spot. I mean we're talking

1566
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 2: about a good amount of money per game. Yeah, that

1567
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 2: would be missed here as he goes on.

1568
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just a shame that it's that it that

1569
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 5: you're we're still kind of in this in this situation.

1570
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 2: A little bit. Roughly, I had an I did his

1571
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 2: whole contract per game, which is not right, but roughly,

1572
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 2: because this is the guy who's picked right in front

1573
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 2: of SO twenty one about advice, it's roughly one hundred

1574
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 2: and twenty three grand a game. Yeah, it's not insignificant.

1575
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 2: It's not nothing, buddy. No, let's get that done and

1576
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 2: get him in here.

1577
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,840
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Speaker 2: Time for a little higher, Lower, better or worse. Look

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Speaker 2: Gibbe Gentleman High.

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Speaker 3: Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: It's thee.

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Speaker 4: I was going to go power Pole, but we'll wait

1596
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 4: till after the first week of games before we start

1597
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 4: talking power Poles. We've been doing it for five months.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: This one is the top ten of the NFL one

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01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 4: players of twenty twenty five. Nathan in the first row.

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Speaker 2: Real quick before we get into this. I just came

1602
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 2: across this from the NFL Fashion Advice handle, which does

1603
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 2: all the jerseys and all things like that. This year,

1604
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 2: the NFL MVP and Players of the Year will wear

1605
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 2: gold shield patches on their jersey instead of the traditional

1606
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 2: NFL logos, So there are NFL logos will be gold

1607
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:31,639
Speaker 2: in THEA to signify that you've won the MVP, Offensive

1608
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 2: Player of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, Offensive

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01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 2: Rookie the Year, Defensive Rookie Year. That's five people in

1610
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 2: the league. I just think if you've ever won that award, you.

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01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 3: Should have it.

1612
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 2: Oh, like any at any point in your career. Yes,

1613
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 2: if you've ever been the MVP, the Defensive Player of

1614
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 2: the Year, the Offense Player of the Year, the offense

1615
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year, the defense work of the year,

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01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 2: you should get that gold.

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01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 2: I think five people a year. Who cares?

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01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 5: I think I think your idea is better. But I

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01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 5: also do like this idea. I think this is cool. Yeah,

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01:18:58,280 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 5: like to say, well, what's the difference, Oh, he was

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01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 5: the MVP, he won the Offensive Player of the Year.

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01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 5: I think yours is better because then it would be

1624
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 5: like a club within a club, like here's all the

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01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 5: guys who've been the MVP. Oh, I forgot that such

1626
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 5: and such won the MVP and this year, so it

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01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:12,440
Speaker 5: would create that dialogue.

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01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:13,480
Speaker 2: I'm for anything.

1629
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 5: I feel this way about good job out of the

1630
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 5: g man there, doctor J. I'm for anything that makes

1631
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 5: people ask questions about why it happened in football. So

1632
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 5: I feel that way about retired uniforms all the time.

1633
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 5: That way you can say, like, wait, what he's wearing fourteen?

1634
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 5: I thought that was retired. Well fourteen auto Graham war

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01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 5: has a silhouette of the person.

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01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 2: Yes, of course. I think here's I have a better idea.

1637
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,600
Speaker 2: The year's winners are in gold, and then everybody was

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01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 2: a first team All Pro last year as well. It

1639
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 2: gets a different color, so you'll have like the standard.

1640
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 2: So the first team All Pro, I think, is we

1641
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 2: always that's first thing? Hall of Fames. Yeah, it's always

1642
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 2: first team All Pro. So they should have another So

1643
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 2: you could have gold there, you could have maybe a

1644
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 2: bronze because I think the regular logo is kind of silverish,

1645
01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 2: but something to designate being a first team All Pro.

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01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 5: I got to workshop that about how to do it

1647
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 5: to not make it look too clunky, because you have

1648
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 5: you'd have.

1649
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 2: Dupless, you'd have duplicate, right because if you m v

1650
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 2: and ye have the superseds. Okay, So that, by the way,

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01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Josh Allen wasn't the first team All

1652
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 2: Pro quarterback even though he's the m v P. I'm

1653
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 2: pretty sure Lamar was the first team All Pro quarterback

1654
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 2: around the m v P. That's right. You wouldn't know

1655
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 2: because that was one too many oscars. Yeah, he was

1656
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 2: first Team All Pro.

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01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 3: Yea.

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01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 2: Or there'suld be something on your like something.

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01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 5: Like in soccer world, like they'll put a star over

1660
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 5: a championship. Maybe you just do like a star, yeah

1661
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,719
Speaker 5: somewhere here, like for an All Pro or something.

1662
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1663
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 5: I like that, like anything that causes people to ask

1664
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 5: questions about where things came from.

1665
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 2: And differentiate the the best.

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01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 3: I like that.

1667
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 4: All right, here we go the.

1668
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 2: AP sticker on your helmet if you're All Pro and

1669
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 2: you could have one forever year, so you like guy Leaves, like, yes, exactly.

1670
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 2: It was pretty cool.

1671
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 4: Ryan Day giving League Corso the one and going.

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01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:01,679
Speaker 5: Hey, I got to give a great deal of credit

1673
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 5: to the folks at Ohio State. The ESPN's not a partner, correct,

1674
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 5: and this is the third year that they're not a

1675
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 5: television partner, so they you know, I mean, they're in

1676
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 5: bed with the SEC. I give ESPN a lot of

1677
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 5: credit too, Like they they had LSU Clemson, they had

1678
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 5: Florida State Alabama. Courso went to Florida State. It would

1679
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 5: have been pretty easy for them to go there, but

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01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:26,560
Speaker 5: that was the first place he did it. It was

1681
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 5: the game of the weekend obviously, and so just a

1682
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 5: good job of everybody of like understanding the moment and

1683
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 5: doing it. And yeah, they gave him a brutus head.

1684
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 5: They gave him the helmet with full oft I thought

1685
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 5: that was very cool. Like every time he picked the

1686
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 5: buckets he got a sticker and then he had the

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01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 5: other one just in case you pick us again. What

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01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 5: they did with the band, all of it. They did

1689
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 5: last quarter hour five point one million people watch College

1690
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 5: Game Day the last quarter hour. That's like NBA playoff stuff.

1691
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 5: That's like, I mean, that's a nuts number to do.

1692
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 5: And their average for three hours was three point one million. Yeah,

1693
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 5: watching a pregame shows, I felt really bad. For first

1694
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 5: of all, it was all stuff with Corso was awesome.

1695
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 5: It was like cool, the reverence for him, you know,

1696
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 5: he's in the tuxedo is great. But do you know

1697
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 5: this after day gave him the Buckeye's in because you're gonna.

1698
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 2: Need one more. Yeah, and then he tried to give

1699
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 2: him the handshake bub kiss. He got a handshake at

1700
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 2: the beginning when he came out, but then the next

1701
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,879
Speaker 2: time we tried to go the goodbye handshake and Corso

1702
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 2: like ended up leaning over and talking right over and

1703
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 2: never got the handshake. And they was kind of like

1704
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 2: what I think, ninety year old man?

1705
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, like maybe, yeah, you know, but yeah, that was

1706
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 5: very cool, very good job at everybody down there.

1707
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 4: And we will do a lot more on college football tomorrow.

1708
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 4: Yeah week college football maybe yeah.

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01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 1: Uh.

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01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 4: This is the top ten players in the NFL Network

1711
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 4: top one hundred players of twenty to twenty five. They

1712
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 4: were released yesterday.

1713
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 2: Hit it.

1714
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 1: Higher or lower.

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01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 4: Number one is sa Quon Barkley lower or just right

1716
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 4: low lower.

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01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 5: This is so hard because I almost feel like when

1718
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 5: they do this stuff, they should just take quarterbacks out that.

1719
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 5: It should be two things NFL. NFL vote on quarterbacks

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01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 5: and then position players, because there's not a scenario in

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01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 5: the world that Saquon Barkley would be picked over any

1722
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 5: number of these quarterbacks if you were starting a team.

1723
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 5: He went to the perfect team, that's it, and they

1724
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 5: got him for a bucket of balls, you know, which

1725
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 5: is crazy from the division rival got.

1726
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 2: A show canceled, it did got inside off season hard

1727
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 2: knocks canceled, canceled because of how that was all handled. Fact.

1728
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, so no, I would not have Saquon Barkley won,

1729
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 5: and I wouldn't have him one if you were doing

1730
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 5: position players and he was extraordinary last year. If you

1731
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 5: take quarterbacks out of it, I would have Miles. It's

1732
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 5: the highest ranked non quarterback in the league. I think

1733
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 5: he's the best non quarterback in the league.

1734
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 4: Next Higher Core Lower ravens qb. Lamar Jackson is number two.

1735
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 4: Higher Lower or just.

1736
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 2: Right should be number one. The guy threw he's the

1737
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 2: first player to ever throw for four thousand yards and

1738
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 2: rush right hundred. He ran for nine hundred like he

1739
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 2: didn't even like the benchmark. He blew that out of

1740
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 2: the Water by another twelve point five percent. Only quarterback

1741
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 2: throw for forty touchdowns with fewer than five interceptions. First

1742
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 2: player to ever lead the league in both yards per

1743
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 2: attempt and yards per rush attempt in the same season.

1744
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 2: What are we talking about.

1745
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 5: It's pretty pretty amazing. Their teams were very similar, and

1746
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 5: statistically there are no similarities between him and Josh Allen.

1747
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 5: And he's done and Alan won the MVP. Statistically, it's

1748
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 5: not close, not close. Now he has more talent around

1749
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:48,680
Speaker 5: him to work with than Alan does, but numerically it's

1750
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:49,799
Speaker 5: it's really not close.

1751
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.

1752
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 5: Like if Joe Burrow, if they would have made the

1753
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 5: postseason last year, he wins the MVP.

1754
01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 4: We said that for a month, Yeah, the whole month

1755
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 4: of when he went on a terror.

1756
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, seventy percent. I mean, just do the numbers game

1757
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 5: on him versus Allen. Completion percentage seventy percent Allen sixty

1758
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 5: three point six yards passing forty nine to eighteen Allen

1759
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 5: thirty seven thirty one twenty eight touchdowns for Allen, forty

1760
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 5: three for Burrow, six picks for Allen, nine picks for Burrow.

1761
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 5: Alan ran for five thirty one and twelve touchdowns. Burrow

1762
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,640
Speaker 5: just ran for two to one two touchdowns, but it

1763
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 5: really Lamar's not even close. Yeah, Burrow, if Burrow, if

1764
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:32,839
Speaker 5: thinking in the postseason, Burrow.

1765
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 2: Would have won the MVP. Yeah, they would have got in.

1766
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 2: I think Lamar's got to get to a super Bowl

1767
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 2: for they'll give them another MVP. I don't think there's

1768
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 2: anything he could do. No, and I think that's it's

1769
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 2: just fatigue with it. I think he said last year

1770
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 2: was probably the greatest quarterback season ever.

1771
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 5: It's on a very short list. Manning had a crazy

1772
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 5: one with Denver and Brady had a crazy one in

1773
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 5: O seven with Randa Rena Moss. Those are the two

1774
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 5: that jump out to me. Is like the greatest single

1775
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 5: quarterback seasons. That Mahomes also had one his second year.

1776
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:07,440
Speaker 2: Brady two thousand and seven is sixty nine percent completions,

1777
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 2: forty eight h six passing, fifty touchdowns, eight picks. Jeez,

1778
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 2: in sixteen games. Hold on, hold on, I'm looking at

1779
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 2: his and is rushing that year ninety eight yards two touchdowns.

1780
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 2: Give me. Mar still has more total yards. Brady has

1781
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 2: a few more total touchdown one more game though, one

1782
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 2: more game. Manning and Manning and like, what was that

1783
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 2: thirteen twelve is either twelve or thirty. Yeah, thirteen or.

1784
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:35,719
Speaker 4: Fifty five hundred.

1785
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 2: Yard fifty four to seventy seven, fifty five and ten,

1786
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 2: completing sixty eight percent of passes. Yeah, that's pretty good.

1787
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 3: Now.

1788
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 5: Who they had one fifty five, ten, fifty four, seventy

1789
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 5: seven in sixteen games. Mahomes Mahomes is, I want to

1790
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 5: say first full year as a starter or second he

1791
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:54,799
Speaker 5: had a massive one.

1792
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:58,759
Speaker 2: Five thy, ninety seven and fifty. It's hard to believe,

1793
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 2: but in twenty twenty two he had fifty two, fifty

1794
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 2: and forty one, fifty two fifty forty one. I mean

1795
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:09,799
Speaker 2: he went from going five ninety seven and fifty four thousand,

1796
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 2: thirty one and twenty six and only fourteen games forty seven,

1797
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 2: forty and thirty eight, forty eight, thirty nine and thirty seven,

1798
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 2: fifty two, fifty and forty one to the last two seasons,

1799
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 2: he's averaging basically four thousand yards and twenty six and

1800
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 2: a half touchdowns.

1801
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 5: So this brings it. We're doing this higher lower thing.

1802
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 5: Would anybody if you have one game to play, not

1803
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 5: pick him.

1804
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 4: We just had this conversation earlier today.

1805
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 3: I go.

1806
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 2: That's the problem, Like what do you do with him?

1807
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 5: I really he's really the Brady of this era in

1808
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 5: that Manning racks up, racked up the regular season accolades

1809
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 5: and the numbers and the MVPs. But when it came

1810
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 5: time to the postseason, you always bet on Brady. At

1811
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 5: least that's the way I perceive it. And in this scenario,

1812
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,640
Speaker 5: Mahomes that thing that Graziano.

1813
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 4: Said with that, I went against Mahomes once in the post.

1814
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 2: I never my life would I ever do it again.

1815
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 2: I'll never do it again.

1816
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 5: But like his whole operation of like what Grazziama said

1817
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 5: was crazy, that he's the furthest, the closest anyone's done

1818
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 5: of getting him out of the Super Bowls. Overtime is

1819
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 5: overtime of the AFC Championship Game. Yeah twice Brady got

1820
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 5: him there in New England in overtime, and then Burrow

1821
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:24,799
Speaker 5: got him in overtime with the Bengals. That's it. Everything

1822
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 5: else is Super Bowl or that's it. So that's the

1823
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 5: thing that's hard with him is like, if it comes

1824
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 5: down to it and you're picking one guy for a game,

1825
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 5: you're always taking him.

1826
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 2: I do think that if if Mark Andrews doesn't drop

1827
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 2: that pass. This Yeah, if Mark Andrews doesn't drop that

1828
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 2: pass and they win, I really do think that they

1829
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 2: have an opportunity to Lamar had the opportunity to be

1830
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,599
Speaker 2: like that guy. At least you'd feel like he could

1831
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 2: be that guy. It was right there for him right there.

1832
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 2: He did everything you could.

1833
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1834
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, like if that and that's I go back there.

1835
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 2: That's why all these games that are at this level

1836
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 2: with all the things that people put into them, and

1837
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 2: you want to talk about weather and oh it's so fun.

1838
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 2: We want to find out who the best is. Yeah,

1839
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 2: and you do that in a in a climate control control.

1840
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 2: Because the Ravens, I believe, win that game in Buffalo.

1841
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 5: Why don't they have Super Bowls where they have them

1842
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 5: because they want because they have good weather?

1843
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 2: Right yes. And by the way, the ones where like

1844
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 2: the Chicago un where it's pouring rain was gross in Miami.

1845
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:32,959
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, like nobody, no, let's see good Yeah football,

1846
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 2: that's what you want.

1847
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 4: So your top ten overall here before we go to break.

1848
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 4: Saquon one, Lamar two, Josh Allen three, Jamar Chase four,

1849
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 4: Mahomes five, Burrough six, Derrick Henry seven, our own, Miles

1850
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:51,440
Speaker 4: Garrett number eight, Justin Jefferson number nine, and Pat certain

1851
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 4: the second.

1852
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 5: Do you think that those four the right four posit

1853
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 5: non quarterbacks in the top ten patser Tan.

1854
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 2: And then Derek's in there Tooh yeah, Derek.

1855
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1856
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 5: Last year they have five non quarterbacks in the top ten?

1857
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 2: Are those the right five?

1858
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 6: I think?

1859
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 2: Who are the five quarterbacks? Mahomes, Burrow, Alan Lamar and

1860
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 2: who else?

1861
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 5: Oh I'm sorry, there's only four quarterbacks, Lamar, Josh, Patrick

1862
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,879
Speaker 5: and Burrow those four six position players.

1863
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean base If it's just based off last year,

1864
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 2: Jane Daniels should be in here as well. Yeah, I

1865
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,680
Speaker 2: think those are the right ones. Stanza defensive player of

1866
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 2: the year, Barkley's the offensive player of the year. I

1867
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 2: don't know if Justin Jefferson last year, I believe his

1868
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 2: hurt abilities of I don't know if last year would

1869
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 2: have been the year that he deserved. Didn't Jamar Chase

1870
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 2: win the triple crown?

1871
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 7: Last year?

1872
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 2: He did? And he's a yes. Yeah, sorry, youngest person,

1873
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 2: do it first? Since first sense? That's right, So much

1874
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 2: more to come.

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Speaker 2: Could play a little bit. Yeah. So yeah, he's decent.

1895
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Speaker 2: Only duo last year in the league to have seventy

1896
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