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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast knows what a turkey holy is.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL

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Speaker 1: Podcast presented by Headed Shoulders. My name is Dan Hansens

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Speaker 1: and I am joined by room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf and Gregg Roseatal. What's up people? Hey? Hey, hey, hey, hey? Nice?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Oh yeah? Very special edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast? Why Greg? For the overseas listeners, let

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Speaker 1: them know why this week is a little bit different. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's a holiday here in the United States called Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: and to celebrate that, I've surprised you guys by cooking

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Speaker 1: an entire turkey that we're gonna eat during the show.

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Speaker 1: You should have. Wow, that's so nice to you. Greg.

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Speaker 1: Just just play along the audio. Whoa starving? So yeah?

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Speaker 1: I would love to eat a full hour of sounds

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Speaker 1: of people eating and nightmat that Mark's name listener is

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Speaker 1: not happy right now. Yes, Thanksgivings on Thursday, So we

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Speaker 1: have a lot of things to get to today. The

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Speaker 1: Tuesday show is gonna be our big preview episode for

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Speaker 1: the upcoming week. Um, and then you're gonna hear from

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Speaker 1: us again Thursday night. Thanksgiving night here in the States,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to recapy to the Thanksgiving games, UM,

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Speaker 1: and then do our standards Sunday Show, Today's show. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's a good one. It's a saucy one. We first

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Speaker 1: will finish up week eleven. And what do we do

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Speaker 1: to finish up week eleven? We're gonna break down the

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Speaker 1: great sacrifice? Now, okay, well, well, usually a primetime game

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Speaker 1: is a ritual sacrifice this season, but not this week.

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Speaker 1: A fun game, high scoring affair between the Falcons and

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Speaker 1: Seahawks at the clink. Uh. And we'll talk about that game.

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Speaker 1: Then we will get into the previews, starting with the

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Speaker 1: three UM Thanksgiving games, uh, and then going through all

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Speaker 1: the rest of the week twelve games Week twelve, Mark,

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Speaker 1: and guess what Thanksgiving? And once you get to Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: you're going down hill. Yeah, I mean teams started life wise,

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Speaker 1: us personally, or or the league. The season it's okay,

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Speaker 1: ground and then all of a sudden, right around week eight,

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Speaker 1: you're going up a hill. Basic and you got eight, nine, ten, eleven.

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Speaker 1: Don't enough gear, not enough gears? Either once you get

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Speaker 1: to Thanksgiving straight down and then before you know it,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler's on the Beach were months from that occurring play.

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift Marks on the Beach and it's Camcoon and

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Speaker 1: he's somehow once again negotiated a solo vacation from his wife,

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Speaker 1: kids and Pinot Cleod. He's got a solo Thanksgiving this

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Speaker 1: week first. But then well, that's that's not your choice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's the unfortunate. You know, the working man way

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Speaker 1: you must, you must toil on in your offices and

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Speaker 1: in your home offices. But just think now, they're going

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Speaker 1: downhill right, Yeah, you've found a way to pack in

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Speaker 1: a negative narrative about my family life in there, which

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with on any level. But Downhill used

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Speaker 1: to make it sound negative. I think we're coasting. The

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Speaker 1: season to me has gone faster than any NFL season

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Speaker 1: I've ever agree. Well, it's all subjective. It's the longest season,

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Speaker 1: all right, Well it's not been fun necessarily for depending

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Speaker 1: what teaming root for been. Um, that was not a

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Speaker 1: negative family narrative. It's a reality. You have been able

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Speaker 1: to work this into your life, and we are all

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Speaker 1: in awe every year that you do it. It's pretty

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Speaker 1: I I think that when you're married, like you need

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Speaker 1: a little bit of alone time, Like I mean, you

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Speaker 1: for in a full month a year, correct, yeah, two

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Speaker 1: And we'll start by going over Monday night football. Fifty

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Speaker 1: it's Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving turkey is so good, by the way, Greg,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Breg you've done it again two days making.

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Speaker 1: of you couldn't have? And and some people say it's

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Speaker 1: You know what it used to be. We needed to

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Speaker 1: see the Titans go prove it against some of these

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Speaker 1: teams that were you know, first, second, third, fourth seed

427
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Speaker 1: type material. How about now just show us you can

428
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Speaker 1: string to some wins together. I'm losing my respect for

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Speaker 1: this team quickly. And you know, we massively overpraised the

430
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Speaker 1: Steelers at times this season. I guess so the number

431
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 1: two seed, but this Cults team nearly took him down.

432
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Speaker 1: Come on, Titan, you just got wiped up Pittsburgh. No,

433
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Speaker 1: because I I've chosen Pittsburgh for the Super Bowls pass

434
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Speaker 1: and what I picked. I don't pick the Steelers for

435
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Speaker 1: the last four years before this year to make the

436
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl for the f C, I've never got burned.

437
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: I would have joined you this year. Probably Again, it's

438
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Speaker 1: not that I don't believe that they're different there. Uh

439
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: we thought their defense would get a lot better. And

440
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Speaker 1: you know what, they're top five defense. They're the only

441
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Speaker 1: team that you know, Minnesota right now is the only

442
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: team that's top five in offense and defense. But to me,

443
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Speaker 1: if Pittsburgh is right, they're the only team I think

444
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 1: that can be at that level on both sides because

445
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: the defense has absolutely made the leap. We got one

446
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: right on, But then what are we doing with I

447
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: don't know why we're talking about because because why are

448
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 1: they barely beating the cults who we think that are

449
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: going to roll. It's football and the Colts. Let's give

450
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Speaker 1: the Colts a little credit. I think the Colts win

451
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: this game, and they've the last three weeks they played.

452
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: They dominated Cincinnati. They were very unlucky to lose that game,

453
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: but they dominated it, really dominated. Houston played very well

454
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Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh. For the most part, this team is playing

455
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Speaker 1: pretty hard. Jacobe set it's playing very well. I think

456
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 1: people wrote him off because he had that one terrible game,

457
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 1: but for the most part he's been fantastic. I think

458
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 1: he's a future starter. And bad team, yeah, like the

459
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 1: best really bad yeah, because people think of them as

460
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Speaker 1: this kind of a total lost cause, and I think

461
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: if they had had a few bounces, you know, go

462
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Speaker 1: their way. They're not that much different than the Titans

463
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: and their home. Like they're really a game last week

464
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: too or two weeks ago so, and that kind of

465
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Speaker 1: wanted tightens and five. If they lose this things wrong,

466
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Speaker 1: if we yeah, if this room has turned on the

467
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: Tytoons now and you don't want them involved with the playoffs,

468
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 1: you're definitely for the cults here. People love this. Jake Brisket, though,

469
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: I tell you what Jake Brisket gonna find a way

470
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Speaker 1: to get to another place. He's now just gonna go

471
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: back behind its valuable. There's unless someone came with a

472
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 1: godfather offer, which I can't imagine that either, Like what

473
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Speaker 1: you can't trade away a quality backup when you have

474
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Speaker 1: no idea what you're getting. Let's see if Andrew luck

475
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: is still round next year at this time. All right,

476
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Speaker 1: let's that's supposed to be. It's got I just staying no, no,

477
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: not a cessel. Just they're telling you that, just you know,

478
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: keep a beat on it. He's got some chirping talk.

479
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: You think he's gonna end up with the Browns or

480
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: something talked to me months from now when I've when

481
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: I've filled out this narrative in my mind further with

482
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 1: the zero proof behind it. One of your sparrows, Frank Signetti,

483
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: didn't he tell you about that guy's deep in the

484
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: wilderness and Franks Signetti cleaning up the streets of Brooklyn? Alright?

485
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: Moving on, the Cleveland Browns are over ten. Now they

486
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Speaker 1: travel to Cincinnati to face the Bengals who resurrected let's

487
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 1: let's just call it what it is. Their hopes for

488
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Speaker 1: West of this with a win over the Broncos, Yes,

489
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: and that only got them to forty six, but four

490
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: and six. But now, um, Colleen, they get the Browns,

491
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 1: so they should be able to get them the five

492
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: and six unless something bad happens. They should the Bengals

493
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: though right now that offensive line might be one of

494
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Speaker 1: the worst in the league. And the first time that

495
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 1: the Bengals played the Browns, they brown didn't have Miles

496
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: Garrett out there, and Myles Garrett has been playing so well,

497
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: so that's something to look at. And they can't run

498
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 1: the ball either, the Bengals at all, so they're not

499
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: maintaining drives. They're not sustaining drives at all. So I

500
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Speaker 1: think when when I look at this game, like you

501
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: have a j Green going up against Jason mccordy. Jason

502
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: mccordy has been good this year. He's the number two

503
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: cornerback in the league, carding a profit by focus, and

504
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: people won't talk about that because it's the Browns. But

505
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: I don't think that this is like a total gimme

506
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Speaker 1: for the Bengals be competitive. You mentioned the Cincinnati running game.

507
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Speaker 1: One of my more stubbornly uh stubbornly stupid decisions in

508
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: my fantasy career aim this season, I just have not

509
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: let I won't let go of Joe Mixon, and I

510
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: keep waiting for Joe Mixon to break out. And now

511
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 1: he's become the man in that backfield if you look

512
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: at like the touches compared to him and Joe Bernard

513
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: now Cincinnati saying okay, Joe, now be the man, be

514
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: the man. And yet every week you look at the

515
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: box score at least and it's just it's just not

516
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: he's not putting it all together right now. It's the

517
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Speaker 1: line though, it's the line right And it's taken me

518
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: too long, I think, to realize that. So, you know,

519
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: running back stats for the most part, are just like

520
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: quarterback stats and quarterback wins, like it's all a function

521
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Speaker 1: of the team around you. Joe Mixon was on the Vikings,

522
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: he'd be lighting it up. This is a guy, I

523
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: have no doubt about that. Yeah, And it's easy just

524
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: to look right past the Browns week after week in

525
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: this exercise. But their run defense has been ever accused

526
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: as to that. Well I know, now, Yeah, I just

527
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: think in general in terms of things, who's gonna win

528
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: or lose? Cleveland's Cleveland's terrible. They're gonna get wiped out.

529
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: The defense has some pieces. They played competitive against Jacksonville's

530
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: offense last week. They did lose Emmanuel Ogba, where I

531
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: think when you had Agba and Garrett off the edge,

532
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: you had something there. And they've lost Jamie Collins. There's start.

533
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: The injuries are starting to mount. Jamie Meeters gone as

534
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: a very winnable game. It is. I think this is

535
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: the game. This is by how much we'll give me

536
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: a score seven to ten. I'm I think they're gonna wrong.

537
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for the Cincinnati game, where I am remotely

538
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: impressed with Cincinnati. Yeah, I haven't seen I haven't seen it.

539
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: Like they're very consistently bad team. They're not a team

540
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: that's up and down. They're a team that you look

541
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: at him think, yeah, I don't know. I am so

542
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: agitated by what I've heard. I'm gonna have to make

543
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: a switch. Lindsay Bensey called my other law. I don't

544
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: even know what my regular season record is. I'm locking

545
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: up Cleveland here comes to win. I feel so guilty.

546
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: It is all your fault, but I'm all right with it.

547
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: They I do think honestly, they've just been getting a

548
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 1: little bit closer in games. Good has here and there

549
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: are good quarters. I'm not saying they're a good team,

550
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 1: got a long way to go. But the Bengals, who

551
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: we forked weeks ago, they are a bad to have

552
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: to promise that this will be the last time Marvin

553
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: lewis playing as the Browns. He's going out with a law.

554
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: I think Mark might get this one. You have to

555
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: if if things go sideways for the Browns again is

556
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: happened ten straight weeks, that you won't be in a

557
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: bad mood if they let you down. Because because if

558
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: I were to be in a bad mood about the Browns,

559
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: it would happen at one point over the past. You

560
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: know you've done a wrap on balance separate. I've no emotion.

561
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: A lock is not going to change that. I was

562
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: nervous about it now, No, because I I don't think

563
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: I take the lock as competitively as some may believe,

564
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: like I like just I don't think you take it

565
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: competitively like a huge Yeah you go for it? Um,

566
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. WHOA the Browns got locked up?

567
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: Didn't you lock him up earlier this season? Oh? Yes,

568
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: I did. All right, let's uh move on the Tampa

569
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. They've been playing better with Ryan Fitzpatrick and

570
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: they won a couple of games in roads too late,

571
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: of course, and now they go to Atlanta, Greg to

572
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: face the Falcons. We just talked about at the top

573
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: of the show. This looks like a good spot for

574
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: the Falcons at home to start stackingson wins themselves. They

575
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: should they and they have a home loaded schedule down

576
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: the stretch, so that should help them get to seven

577
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: and four this week. They have a lot of tough

578
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: games too. But if you're the Falcons, I think it's

579
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: a plus that you have the Saints two more times.

580
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: It's a plus that you still have the Panthers like

581
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: they are playing the teams around this NFC South, It's

582
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: taken a while for it to kind of come together,

583
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: but in the end we've got three pretty compelling teams.

584
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: They're playing each other all down the stretch. I still

585
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: am very worried about the Falcons defense because the some

586
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: do not equal like the parts. The parts are good, gritty,

587
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: Jared's having a great season. Dion Jones, I think is

588
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: the only player in the league that makes that tackle

589
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: of Russell Wilson when he scrambled. I think he is

590
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: the fastest linebacker in the league. Desmond Truffon is playing

591
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: well like Tach McKinley has been coming on. But then

592
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: when you watch them, they just give up yards and

593
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: points every week. So I don't I don't count them

594
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: as a lock in any type of game, but you

595
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: would think they take care of this. I agree that

596
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: you want if you're them and you want to say, listen,

597
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: we are playoff team. You want to play those teams

598
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: in your own division, mens him up and get into

599
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs. So that's what you have to be your Lanta.

600
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: But if they lose this to Tampa Bay, you go

601
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: to six and five and you have the and the

602
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: Saints exactly like you. The case close, you gotta take

603
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: care of in the box. I've went two straight. But

604
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: let's be real. They played the Jets at home, played

605
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: good defensively, not a good offensive game, and then you

606
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: beat the offense, you might be the worst team in

607
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: the week. I like former first round pick Adrian Claiborne

608
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: going back to Tampa Bay revenge game. Claiborne, who by

609
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: the way, had another and then he almost had a

610
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: huge sack. He just he just missed that. Adrian Claiborne's

611
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: the difference maker in the NFL right now. Um, I'll

612
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: just throw this out there and for then it Bucks

613
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: Bucks fans listening, including my boy shellin there. Four and six,

614
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: I'll just throw it out there. Let's say they beat

615
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: the Falcons and they get to five and six, and

616
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: then they have the tidebreaker in Atlanta, and then you

617
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: look at some of those teams in the as as

618
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: good as the NFC is in terms of compared to

619
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Speaker 1: the a f C. They have a pulse. You've lost

620
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: me on that one. They're like someone that in like

621
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: an old ancient war, got speared while riding a horse

622
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,239
Speaker 1: and they're on the ground, the wars happening around them,

623
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: and they're still they'll be dead very soon. If you

624
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: won this game, you're you're you have a major wound,

625
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: you're lying on the battlefield, but you're not dead. And

626
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: and they as bad as they've been this year, there's

627
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: a reason every and liked them so much in the

628
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: beginning of the ear If then somehow something happened and

629
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: they started stringing some more games, I don't know, everyone

630
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: loves starting quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yeah, but isn't Winston coming

631
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: back sooner rather than later? It sounds is that a

632
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: huge up? Right? It sounded this week like maybe that's

633
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: not as certain, just the tone that they use that

634
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: he's definitely out this week at least, and it sounded

635
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: like maybe they're just gonna Patrick for a little bit

636
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: and game and just to clarify, it's all predicated on

637
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: them somehow winning in a level the week, and I

638
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: don't think that will happen. Now let's move on, Oh,

639
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: to the throne of these What a great greg as

640
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: you eat your turkey and you have some mash mash

641
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: potatoes there and some stuff, and Colleen won't even give

642
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: up the yams. Now, um, these are some good times

643
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: to be on the throne of these. Not only are

644
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: they looking the Patriots looking not they pro now and alert,

645
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: the Patriots looking dominant on both sides of the ball. Now,

646
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: now you have one of the worst teams in football

647
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: coming into your building. What a party it's going to

648
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: be at the mall in Foxboro. I like, I'd rather

649
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: see them play a competitive team that's some thrown of

650
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: these stuff. You know this Dolphins team. I mean, I'm

651
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: definitely not watching this game live. There's there should be

652
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: some better, better games. What about you? What do you

653
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: have to say about this game? Well, I just wonder

654
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: if the Patriots, who have been through so much this season, God,

655
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: remember all those yards the yards up now you're giving up,

656
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: you know, twelve and a half points per game, could

657
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: you possibly find a way at home? It's a tall

658
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: order to take care of the most unwatchable offense in

659
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: the entire NFL and and get on back on track

660
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: to that plucky fourteen and two mark that we expect

661
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: you to have at the end of the year. Do

662
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: we know who the quarterback is going to be for

663
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: this one? No, Jake Cutler is still in the I

664
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: think I think the Patriots are gonna go with Tom Brady.

665
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: He's playing well. Get Hoyer has gotten some playing times

666
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: back to back to back weeks. One. One thing that's

667
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: been under the radar for them is like Chris Hogan's

668
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: not even been playing lately. So they're doing this without

669
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: Edelman without and I mean without Edelman, without Hogan. Malcolm

670
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: Mitchell is on injured reserve. He might be coming back

671
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: to the books, so that That is another thing that

672
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: I'm Brandon Cooks though, played the game of of of

673
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: the season. That's been a great move that he has

674
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: given them everything they could have asked for and more.

675
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes they haven't always been great bringing in veteran wide receivers.

676
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: This guy was a perfect fit for them, and and

677
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: Dion Lewis is starting to get a little little more

678
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: national love. There really are a few hundred and nine

679
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: poundbacks in NFL history that run inside like Dion Lewis.

680
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: They are counting on him as their primary back. I

681
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: don't know if this can last forever, but I love

682
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: watching that guy play. How much of a blowout is

683
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: it's going to be? They are huge, huge favorites. I

684
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: mean you would you would think they've been blowing out

685
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: teams lately. This is one they should if this is

686
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: if they win by less than twenty points, it would

687
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: be a disappointment for people like, well, they're just rolling there.

688
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: They've won two games by twenty five plus points in

689
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: a row, and they haven't done that three of three

690
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: a row, I think since two thousand and five. And

691
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: suddenly this feels like the team that can do all

692
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: these things. The page, the offensive it's I think it's

693
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: the best offense in the league, and Marty b is

694
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: adding a little bit to the mix. Not gonna have

695
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: ton of snaps. Another part for us to embrace. Oh,

696
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: it gives me chill just thinking about his comeback, defeating

697
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: the odds and the evil Green Bay Packers team doctors

698
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: and the team that invested in multimillion dollar contract in him.

699
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: The positive side of spen you when you get older

700
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: and you're thinking back, and you'll, I think you'll wonder,

701
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: you know, why didn't I appreciate the greatest run any

702
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: NFL team did appreciate that greatness. Appreciate it plenty. Thank you.

703
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: And what speaking of like overcoming so much all those

704
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia gifts in the first couple of weeks when

705
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: they were struggling, Listen, they backs up against the wall

706
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: and to see the way the way it is, that's

707
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 1: really I think they have. I think they have legit

708
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: weaknesses on defenses, but they don't have on defense. Just

709
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: look at the roster and without Malcolm Brown, the run defense,

710
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: all this stuff, but they're not playing any opponents that

711
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: can take advantage of it. Really for the rest of

712
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,959
Speaker 1: the season, other than Pittsburgh, and there's not the teams

713
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: in the a f C on offense that you can

714
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: really see doing it's all in the NFC Lucky fourteen

715
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: and two. Let's move on the Chicago Bear. A lot

716
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: of the theme of this week, by the way, the matchups,

717
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: it's a crappy team against a okay, too good, too

718
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: great team. It's not a lot. There's not a lot

719
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: of actual good games. That's when you're looking out A

720
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: lot of win on Yeah, a lot of two teams

721
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: with the winning record. That's why the Lions Vikings is sneaky.

722
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: The second best game of the week wild, so colle

723
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: and we have the Bears traveling to Philadelphia to play

724
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: your Eagles, and I guess speaking while we're talking throwing

725
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: the vs. Obviously Greg exists in his own plane. But

726
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: as an Eagles fan now, no, no Lombardi trophies in

727
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 1: the team headquarters a lot, but there's some championships back before. Yeah,

728
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: of course sixty definitely no throwing. But you are you

729
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: getting to the point now as an Eagles fan. Uh?

730
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: And I only experienced this once myself and nine de

731
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: eate with the Jets where they start rolling through teams

732
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: and it's like so fun to watch them do that.

733
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: They still didn't get to the Super Bowl. Are you

734
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: super confident that every week now they're just gonna roll? No? No,

735
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: Because I've been hurt so many times by this team.

736
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: It's like I can't. It's hard for me to trust them.

737
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: And they look so good, and I keep saying myself,

738
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: are they really this good? The Eagles are good? This

739
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: is weird. I don't. I don't feel comfortable. I'm waiting

740
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: for fear, like a major tropic injury. I'm so afraid

741
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: of a massive and if that's your biggest fear, then

742
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: you're in a great You're not saying, like I sneakily,

743
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: I don't love their run defense. It's a great quarterbacks

744
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: that come down to earth or like they have so

745
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: much stuff, like they're they're running back so ridiculous. They

746
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: had they rushed for how many yards? Over two hundred

747
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: yards I think in this game, and nobody had over

748
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: a hundred tell us. It's like it's listen and the

749
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,479
Speaker 1: fact that Jason Peters went down and it's not really

750
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: affecting that hasn't killed them because the other four spots

751
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: are good. Should should we should we talk about what

752
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: Colleen was dreaming about, how amazing the Eagles are. I

753
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: stole the yams. Oh yeah, you want had I need more?

754
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Colleen. Should we talk about it? Let's talk

755
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: about it. Let's talk about it the uh, Let's talk

756
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: about Gang Green. Let's talk about Gang Green, because you

757
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: guys talking about the black mark on no I wrote,

758
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: I wrote on my neck this morning on the way here.

759
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: I was actually I was trying to take notes during

760
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: our conference fall meeting Gang Green, UM the Eagles. I

761
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: think a player on the defense, Jalen Mills, made up

762
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: some T shirts UH and Gang Green and then some

763
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: It was like a cartoon of like the defense, and

764
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: that's how it got on my radar. That apparently the Eagles,

765
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: and this is not the first time in the team's

766
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: recent history, UM, they have been trying to us co

767
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: opt Gang Green as their own where if you're a

768
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: Jets fan, if you're an NFL fan, of course the

769
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: Jets are Gang Green. That is their nickname. It has

770
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: been and I've been doing research. I have contacts in

771
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: the New York newspaper business that I've been working the

772
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: phones this week because I want to write about the

773
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: late eighties, Buddy Ryan, Reggie White years and the research

774
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: will will back up everything I'm saying is that what

775
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: my research is telling me right now is that Gang

776
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: Green was a connection, a creation of the New York

777
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: tabloids in the late seventies early eighties around the advent

778
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: when the New York Sack Exchange started to come in,

779
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: and they were known as Gang Green. The first usage

780
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: that I'm seeing by the Eagles is Reggie White, which

781
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: was about a decade later. And by the way, while

782
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: we're here, the Eagles have also tried to steal bird Gang,

783
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: which is a Cardinals thing. Oh my god. And so

784
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: there's everybody's course on birds. And if you go back

785
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: to the eleven season, not that long ago, they try

786
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: to steal dream team. The Eagles are thieves. I would

787
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: steal your own body trophy if you had one, but

788
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't get Gang Green. That Jets don't

789
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: have much. But we do have that kind of bad nickname.

790
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: That's ours, I mean cool, you can keep the nickname.

791
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: The Eagles are still way better. So Greg's hope everybody

792
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: get out of this. If you show without eight straight

793
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: minutes on the Jets has been I like latin. I

794
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: just remembering, wasn't it the Jets just this season who

795
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: tried to steal the no fly zone? Yes, but of

796
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: course nobody is pure. Here's the thing the Jets. You know,

797
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: you say everyone knows their Gang Green. I mean Jalen

798
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: knows doesn't know they're Gangreen. They gotta win some game,

799
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: they gotta like get in the mix. No one's saying

800
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: Gang Green lately. Those players they never knew that nine

801
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: you could take it just because the team. I think

802
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: they did say it on Sunday Night Football, though. I

803
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: think Michael's Michael's he went with Gang Green? You did?

804
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: That's a bad Michael's starting to get a little older.

805
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: That's you're starting to get pulled away from the Jets.

806
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: They don't care what happened in nineteen seventy seven. They've

807
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: had to reincorporate everyone. When when you come after Gang Green,

808
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: well he's you know, so anyway, yeah, let us have that.

809
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: Why do you have to take that? I mean, talk

810
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: to Jalen Mills about it, talk to Gang Green about it.

811
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: I mean teams incorporated their play like a Jet with

812
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: their fill in the blank names. You know, so you

813
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: the Jets have been stolen from that to media day

814
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: and Dan just walking around grumbling asking all the why

815
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: do you take Green? No fly zone is actually abdicated

816
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: because um, they changed their name to the Rocky Mountain Avalanche.

817
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: I forgot about that, all right, let's move on speaking

818
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: of Gang Green. They are hosting the Carolina Panthers, uh

819
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: this week, and here we go, Greg, the Panthers. Um,

820
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: you gotta love the Panthers right right right there, like

821
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: the NFC team that's not getting the love of these

822
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: other quote unquote juggernauts in the conference. They're not because

823
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: they've been kind of an ugly team offensively for most

824
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: of the season. They're also coming off of a bye

825
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, who have gotten the top twelve of of

826
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: my QB Index this week. So overall it's been good

827
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: because he's had about three games as as good as

828
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: any quarterbacks played all year, but he's also had some

829
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: terrible game. I mean, it's been an up and down team,

830
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: kind of like their quarterback. But it feels like they're

831
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: coming together and they've been the same defense week after week,

832
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: and now that they've got the running game going, like

833
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: I I think that the Saints should not just assume

834
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: they're winning this NFC South Saints have a tough schedule.

835
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: They're in l A this week, and I think Carolina

836
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: might end up winning this division and that the Saints

837
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: have the Panthers next week, so the Panthers have to

838
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: take care of business this time around. And I think

839
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: it's fair to say, why was no one paying attention

840
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: to Carolina watching all their games up until that Monday

841
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: night destruction to Miami were like because Miami. Yeah, their

842
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: identity flipped though, and they became what they wanted to become.

843
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: They were one of the more boring teams to watch

844
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: on offense, that seemed a bit confused about what they are.

845
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: They're not confused now. No greg Olsen, he'll be back

846
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: to out from the boot. You're getting grind Khalil back

847
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: most likely you're getting Greg Olsen back. So that's two

848
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: of your Green's gig challenges. I don't think they're going

849
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: to compete in this game. I think the Panthers are

850
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: gonna keep rolling and that Saints come back against the Redskins.

851
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: That looms large huge right now because if not, they're

852
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 1: tied right now. Uh, and that gives them a little

853
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: bit of cushion, because I think the Panthers are gonna

854
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: keep winning this week. Worried about the Jets offensive line.

855
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: The Jets offensive line six sacks against the But well,

856
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: but a week ago you were very into them. It

857
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: was really one one game. It was which was their

858
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: worst game of the season. They had their best game

859
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: of the season and then probably the worst game of

860
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: the season back to back. I told you I never

861
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: thought they were a great team. They're either the best

862
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: bad team or the worst good team, and so that

863
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: they can go either way. But the Panthers are legitimately

864
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: good to him, So I don't see this working out

865
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 1: well for my team. Let's move on. The Seahawks travel

866
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: to San Francisco to face the Niners. Mark Sessler um

867
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: uh At At this time, we're not hearing anything about

868
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, whether he'll make his debut for San Francisco.

869
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: But Seattle, you feel like this is a good spot

870
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: for them in the sense that they they're desperate for

871
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: a win in San Francisco. Is there to be had. Yeah,

872
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: It's like Kyle Shanahan before the draft, tried to tell

873
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: reporters over and over that he was not you know,

874
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: he didn't feel pressure to draft a rookie quarterback that season,

875
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: you know, and put it right in the lineup. And

876
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: when they when they got Jimmy G, they said, we

877
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: don't feel pressured to play him right away. And I

878
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: didn't buy that either. And I think that maybe we

879
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: don't see Jimmy G this week, and maybe you nearing

880
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: a sound like that. It's early in the week we're

881
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: taping this, but there's weird. There's no whispers around it,

882
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: I mean, and I guess, I guess maybe you wait

883
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: until you get to a little bit softer part of

884
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: the schedule than Seattle. But Seattle themselves, we taught Greg

885
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 1: mentioned the rough slate they have if they lose this game,

886
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: well win or lose. After this, you have the Eagles,

887
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, the Rams, and the Cowboys with Zekiel Elliott back.

888
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: So you're already in your playoffs stretch stretch up your Seattle.

889
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: You need to go in here and you can't. You

890
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: just need to take care of business. Once again, it's

891
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: nothing these teams that you've got a good again, good team,

892
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: bad team slip up here, the cost will be high

893
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: and the run game for the Seahawks, I mean, that's

894
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: been such an issue because Russell Wilson has been doing everything.

895
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: But it looks like Mike Davis is probably going to

896
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: be out for this game too, So then they're gonna

897
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: have to go back to Eddie Lacey and it's around

898
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: around we go. They look pretty good last night too.

899
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: They they have so many weaknesses, they have too many.

900
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: To me, they're not a playoff team. When Seattle, yeah

901
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: they have great they have some great players, but they

902
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: the secondary would make up for a lot of what

903
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: was going on, and that's no longer a strength. The

904
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: defensive line, which used to be great, is okay, it's

905
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: solid now. I don't think it's been Michael Bennett's best season.

906
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: You don't have Cliff Aviril anymore. You have a great

907
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: linebacker group, but you've got no offensive line, no running game.

908
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: It's like that's too many weaknesses with this type of schedule.

909
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: I don't think they're a lot to win any game

910
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: at this point. I mean, c J. Beathard, if he starts,

911
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: maybe one of the reasons is he played great the

912
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: last time they played. I mean, he lit up the

913
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: Giants and everyone think, okay, there was a giant he

914
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: made some really good throws in that game, and they

915
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: went up and down the field all four quarters. And

916
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: maybe they think, I don't know, I don't know what

917
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: the thought is. The Garoppolo think kind of weirds me.

918
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: I with you, because I thought he would I thought

919
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: this would have been the week after apply where you

920
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: put him in there. You're gonna if you're who cares,

921
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: so you're playing if you're on this team, you have

922
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: to play the Seahawks twice a year every year and

923
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 1: all these other times. If they don't play Garoppolo this week,

924
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: it's becoming clear that they're not even gonna view this season.

925
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 1: And some people thought after the trade, oh, they get

926
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: to evaluate him. It feels like they're gonna fly blind

927
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: and pay him a ton of dough next year. You

928
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: think you said him for the rest of the year. Well,

929
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: I feel like all bets are off of It hasn't

930
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: happened now with a three or four weeks in um.

931
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: But if they really do, or they've decided internally he's

932
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: the guy, maybe there is there is a good reason

933
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: they don't want to put him behind this team at

934
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: this time. They didn't mention that it's it's one of

935
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: the harder offenses to learn on the fly and jump in.

936
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: But it's I wonder if they just don't want it

937
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: to go poorly and then everything gets There's something weird

938
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: about that because there's a rookie from Iowa who's back

939
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: there playing, so it's like it's also been getting killed

940
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: back there until this past game. Um, all right, let's

941
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: move on. Now it is time all you know what

942
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: time it is. Shoulders of greatness presented by head in

943
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: Shoulders Solders of greatness and shoulders of greatness. Sometimes we

944
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: we focus on are always focus on a Thursday night

945
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: football game, said, now we're gonna focus on the best

946
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: game of the week, Colleen Wolf. The New Orleans Saints

947
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: coming off, yes, that incredible comeback against the Redskins to

948
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: hold on to sole possession of first place in the

949
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: NFC South, and now they travel to here to face

950
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: the Rams, who got a sit down, be humble moment

951
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: against the Vikings last week. How do you think they

952
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: bounced back from that? I don't know how the Rams

953
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: are gonna do in this one. I actually like the

954
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: Saints in this game. The Rams run defense, that's their

955
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: biggest weakness, and we saw what Latavious Murray, and I

956
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: know a lot of that came late in the game,

957
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: but the Vikings were able to get some big runs there,

958
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: and I think the Saints obviously that's their bread and butter.

959
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Ingram and Camara. Amazingly, they're on pace right

960
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: now for over three thousand yards from scrimmage. That is

961
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: a crazy stat. But the Saints they did lose Alex

962
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: Oka for in this game, and I think that that's

963
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: a big loss for them because having him and cam

964
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: Jordan's together that Saints def that was a big part

965
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: of having the Saints defense kind of come back from

966
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 1: where it was last year. So it's not gonna be

967
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: an easy one. It's definitely gonna be the best game

968
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: of the week. The Rams also lost two cornerbacks in

969
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: this game, so I don't I don't know if they're

970
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: going to be coming back or not. I thought on

971
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: the Saints side watching the game yesterday that Drew Brees

972
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: this is exactly kind of when we talked about why

973
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: this is such a fun interesting offense for the Saints

974
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: is that they have this great running attack, but then

975
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: they still have this all time quarterback you can still

976
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: play and then he showed it like he got that

977
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: he saved that game. And then I thought it was

978
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: interesting after he single handedly brought them back with Kobe

979
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: Fleaner's help, by the way, uh they then once the

980
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: game was back on even ground, they said they turned

981
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: it back over and overtime said all right, running game,

982
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: take us home. And it was just such a great

983
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: showing of what they can do and what happens when

984
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: they have to hit a panic switch. Actually they don't

985
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: hit a panic switch. He's he's the leader in the

986
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: NFL in net yards per attempt, so he is still

987
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: literally the most efficient or if you want to say,

988
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: explosive in terms of you know, yards per pass quarterback

989
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: in the league. That's an incredible combination. We would be

990
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: talking much differently about them, though, if, for instance, Raphael

991
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: Bush didn't you know, run over and kind of make

992
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: a help tackle on a second down where Somagi p

993
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: Ryan almost ended the game and so that's one play

994
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: and they made a nice play there, we would be

995
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: talking about how the defense was not to say, game

996
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: without Marshawn Lattimore. He was not on the field, and

997
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: Cousins picked on that side of the field the entire game.

998
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: And they got this whole one of my favorite little

999
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: trends of the year, and we can't get into it all.

1000
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: Here is the Bonk Game, the Bonk Gang. I blew it.

1001
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: That's that's the name of their group, and we're gonna

1002
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: get into it in future shows. The Bonking that's what

1003
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: they call. That's what they call their secondary. But to me,

1004
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: that secondary is really Lattimore. So if Lattimore, we don't

1005
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: know if he's gonna play this week. I think it's

1006
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: looking good for him to play. But if he doesn't play,

1007
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: I don't think they were the same Saints defense. And

1008
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: you guys are kind of doubting the team of a

1009
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: t L. We didn't pick him last week. They had

1010
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: their probably the worst game of the season. They're at home.

1011
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: People aren't gonna be buying them in a big spot.

1012
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: And I totally forgot to lock up my team before

1013
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: earlier in the show. So since I forgot that, I'm

1014
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: gonna lock up the Rams now I like it. I

1015
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: think Greg's gonna get this one potentially. I mean the

1016
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: one thing that game against the Vikings Rams Vikings. I

1017
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 1: watched it yesterday and I was it was seven seven

1018
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, and I think what changed of

1019
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: the Rams in that game kind of threw him off

1020
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: the flow. Was the Cooper cup in the fumble at

1021
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: the one yard line completely changed kind of the flow

1022
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: of that whole thing. But they were in that game

1023
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 1: until it kind of fell apart in the end. Now

1024
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: the thing is if they if the Saints and getting

1025
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: their system where they get close and then they unleash Ingram.

1026
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: Ac made a good comparison, calling him a lot of

1027
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: very Emmett Smith like in some of his traits this season.

1028
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: Not every year, but this year. I see it and

1029
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: I just think that Ingram is the guy that's gonna

1030
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: you can ride him till the But a great matchup

1031
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: in terms of strength because the Saints are gonna be

1032
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: able to run the ball, I think on the Rams

1033
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: and what a matchup coaching minds. I think McVeigh and

1034
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: Payton are doing as well as anyone. And if with

1035
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: Oaka four out, I think there are vulnerabilities in this

1036
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: Sean defense. The Sean off, I think it's gonna have

1037
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: a lot of points. You can get pressure on Goff.

1038
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: He hasn't been great. It was not great in that game.

1039
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm taking Sean McVeigh Sean Rams only have one win

1040
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: against a team with a winning record. A lot of

1041
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: people think about that, but they've also handled teams they've

1042
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: been explode, the Niners, the Cardinals, Science and Texans and Greg.

1043
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: I do I know, always something, always something with you

1044
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: with the lock off. You want some shenanigans again. I

1045
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: know now what's going to happen is if you lose

1046
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: this one, you could always go to No. No, that's

1047
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: the game I actually wanted. The other one was boring anyways,

1048
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: it was the Panthers. So this I'm much more excited

1049
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: about this. This is, This is I found. There's so

1050
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: much Jets would have created more you can conflict taking

1051
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: the mirror, Yeah, I would have been with that Panthers

1052
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,959
Speaker 1: over Jets. I don't know. You could look in the mirror,

1053
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't be I'm not sure what you again? We we

1054
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 1: I don't know why I was going to feuded last week.

1055
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: But again, it doesn't matter what any of us think

1056
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: whether oh this was a cowardly lock it's about the mirror, yes,

1057
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Speaker 1: but that's fine. But it's unpleasant when your friends are

1058
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: all calling you a howard and you're you're shuttled off

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00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: to the week and like a non man, everyone's mirrors

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Speaker 1: what happened. No, I mean I that's why I keep

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00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: picking the Browns and the Cowboys missing three all pros,

1062
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 1: so that I don't have to don't clear that brown

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00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: stuff on us already, it's already inside. Had a lot

1064
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: to do with Dan and it's only increasing. It's just

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00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: a mirror. There should be no fighting because all it

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00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: is you fight with the man in the mirror. Yeah,

1067
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: you know it when you take a touchdown favorite at home.

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00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: You know you know that when you look in the

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00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: mirror and see that. Guys. I hate this time of

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00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: the show doing it again. It's the worst time of

1071
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: the show, these corporate meetings I gotta go to. What

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00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: about the idea you are the host of the show? Um,

1073
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: this was suggested to me by someone and I thought

1074
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 1: it was a good idea. Is somebody in this room

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00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: you have no you have some you have some pull.

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00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: Why don't you say you need to push this meeting

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00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: back because I'm on one of the most popular podcasts

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00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 1: in the country for professional football. All right, I'm gonna

1079
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: try it out right now, maybe like no problem and

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Speaker 1: your heroes coming in immediately all right, there goes Colleen.

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Speaker 1: Alright by Connie, happy, thanks off? Ready for this? I

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Speaker 1: can't wait? That is shoulders a greatness. By the way,

1083
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to that Rams game, going to watch a

1084
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Speaker 1: lock Oh really interesting anyway. So, yes, Greg doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a toolbox. He does have a kitchen. But if we

1086
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 1: ever decide Mark to get Greg some tools, we gotta

1087
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Speaker 1: go to the Husky route. They stay in life. There

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1089
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Speaker 1: durable tools like the Husky ratchet. What a tool of

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Speaker 1: that thing? I mean it's versatile and it's always there

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Speaker 1: when you need it, and it's got a ten percent

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Speaker 1: longer handle and you know, ten long that goes a

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Speaker 1: long way. Or the virtually unbreakable Husky flash light with

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Speaker 1: of them. You can learn about the year they were founded.

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Speaker 1: On June twelve, four, six men of the Egans Rats

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Speaker 1: Ging robbed a mall train in round Out, Illinois. The

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Speaker 1: robbery was later discovered to have been an inside job,

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Speaker 1: never an inside job with Husky Tools though everything's on

1113
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Speaker 1: them anyway. Moving on, the Buffalo Bills travel to Kansas

1114
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,919
Speaker 1: City to face the Chiefs, and yes, the Chiefs are

1115
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: playing terribly on offense, Greg and everyone's wondering if they

1116
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: peak too soon. It certainly looks that way right now,

1117
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: but when you're trying to figure out how to move

1118
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: on from a terrible lustle. But like what happened with

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00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: the Giants, having the Buffalo Bills at this juncture feels

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Speaker 1: like the perfect anecdote to get things back on track. Yeah,

1121
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: these are the two teams in the a f C

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00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: that looked great and have fallen off the hardest. And

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Speaker 1: I think one advantage you have with Andy Reid as

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00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: a head coach is he's been in slumps before, and

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Speaker 1: to me, coaching in the NFL is about adjustments during

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00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: the season. So Sean mc dermott was saying, this happens,

1127
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: This happens to every team. You know, you have your

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Speaker 1: ups and downs. Well, the way that they've getten beaten

1129
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: down for three straight weeks, that doesn't happen to every team.

1130
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: But there are ups and downs. And I kind of

1131
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: trust Andy Reid to diagnose and figure out what is

1132
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: wrong with this team and find a way to get

1133
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: out of it and start finding some matchups that work.

1134
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: Again for the Kansas City Chiefs, because he's been in

1135
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: up and down seasons before, and I trust that staff

1136
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: a whole lot more than I do. The Buffalo Bill

1137
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 1: staff I trusted too. I can't help though, if you're

1138
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: a Chiefs fan or part of that team, that you

1139
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: wish that Nate Peterman had done just basically bottom line

1140
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: work had been okay, and then you've got Nate Peterman

1141
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: in this game. I understand the Tyrod Taylor is we

1142
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,240
Speaker 1: don't know. We don't know right now. I think Peterman

1143
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 1: might start and this Tuesday, and we don't out Wednesday,

1144
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Speaker 1: So I don't know how you don't put Tyrod Taylor,

1145
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: who came in and generated two quick touchdowns. I understand

1146
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: he's not a top five quarterback, but he is remarkably

1147
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: better than what we saw from Nate Peterman. That the

1148
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: Bills when they were on their run, they turned the

1149
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: ball over three times in their first seven games. They

1150
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: have ten turnovers. I believe it is in the last three.

1151
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: It would not surprise me if Peterman starts. I know

1152
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: we should probably linger on this because people are gonna

1153
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: find out maybe before they even hear this, but um,

1154
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: they put him. They know that they messed up now obviously.

1155
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Speaker 1: But part of the reason why this makes sense, even

1156
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: though it's another road game and a and a tough environment,

1157
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: Casey's past defense is nothing to get crazy about. So

1158
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: you give this kid another chance. And and it also

1159
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: shows that you kind of still stand by your organizational

1160
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: philosophy and what's going on to that position. Well, they're

1161
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: already sinking anyway. It's like you gotta either choose to

1162
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: go against what you did and just eat the Humi humiliation,

1163
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: or really stick to what you believe in, which is

1164
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: this kid can do it, maybe in a better situation

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00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: against the worst defense. How can you look at the

1166
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: rest of the team, though, I think that's problematic. They're

1167
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: they're not gonna have Kelvin Benjamin in this game. How

1168
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: do you look at the defense and tell them we're

1169
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: legitimately giving you the best chance by not turning it over.

1170
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor is one of the most interception allergic quarterbacks

1171
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: in the NFL over the last three or four years.

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00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: That's one of the best things he does is not

1173
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: he's almost careful to a fault, but that that's a

1174
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: good thing. I think when you have this team, because

1175
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: they're giving up more than five yards per carry since

1176
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: they traded Darius, that's a huge problem. Kareem Hunt and

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00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs running game has not gotten it going for

1178
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Speaker 1: a while. And I think this is a game where

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00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: you break out every Andy Reid running scheme and play

1180
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: that you can, and you focus on cream Hunt and

1181
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: you limit the risk because I don't think the Bills

1182
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: are scoring much in this game, and you run all

1183
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: over the Bills. Let's gonna lock this up. This is

1184
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: this is almost too easy. They're probably a huge favorites. Actually, no,

1185
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: I mean Panthers over Jets is too easy. This would

1186
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: not have been This would have been interesting to see

1187
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: that they see the Chiefs will be much bigger favorites

1188
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: than the pan I don't know. I like the ramps.

1189
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: Those are the basic rules of the game. UM. One

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00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: last thought before this game, and this is our last

1191
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: FOURK committee gathering. We we always do it at the

1192
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: final gathering happens before Thanksgiving. So do we want to

1193
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: take this opportunity to preemptively forked the Bills if we

1194
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: all believe they're going into k C to get um humbled?

1195
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: Fork um every once in a while with the fork,

1196
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: you got a fork a team that's right in the mix.

1197
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: And they're literally tied for the last playoff spot. But

1198
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: I'm confident that they're not going to bounce back. I'd

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Speaker 1: for I will too, because they lose the tiebreaker to

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Speaker 1: the Chargers, who I think will show well down the stretch.

1201
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Speaker 1: And I'm starting to climb onto Greg's Ravens bandwagon is

1202
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: a potential six seed because of that defense just looks

1203
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: so great on Sunday and has for weeks. I agree.

1204
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: I I want to fork the Bills as well. We

1205
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: didn't stick, We didn't formalize that. We actually just moved on.

1206
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: The Redskins were all down to fork as well. Yeah,

1207
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: as am I. So let's do. That's it. That wraps up.

1208
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Speaker 1: Oh no, we're gonna have one more conversation before the

1209
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: end of the show. Let's move on to our next game.

1210
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Speaker 1: The Jacksonville Jaguars are heading to Arizona. Mark Sessler. The Jags, yes,

1211
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: are absolutely stacking them win wins. They're now seven and

1212
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: three and they get another favorable matchup. This has been

1213
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: a nice little schedule for the Jags. The Cardinals are

1214
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: a beatable team, as a Texan showed last week. Terrible

1215
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: matchup for Arizona. They are super hot and cold, but

1216
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: there with their run game which is trending towards cold,

1217
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: and the Jaguars are I think that one of the

1218
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: best road defenses we've seen in ages. They are allowing

1219
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: less than ten points per game on the road. They

1220
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: are generating saxon turnovers. They were I know it was Cleveland,

1221
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: but they just went into a bad weather environment and

1222
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: dominated Cleveland's offense, and they just get better and better

1223
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: and start to create havoc as the game goes along.

1224
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how you put whether it's gonna be

1225
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: Blae Gabbert with the starter again they neutralize the run,

1226
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: which they will do, and then you put Blaine Gabbert

1227
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: into a pass first situation against Jalen Ramsey, a j boy.

1228
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: And they got a bunch of guys on their defense.

1229
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,919
Speaker 1: We talked about those two, but up on their defensive line,

1230
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: Calais Campbell, Greg You've got a guy on that defense

1231
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: you love. I mean, and got Way last week had

1232
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: a game that he basically took over. He was a

1233
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: part of three forced fumbles. He's so athletic, like he

1234
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: can close on you, like he's a power forward, like

1235
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: blocking an opponent on a fast break. I mean, they

1236
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: have just guys upon guys have Marcel Darius and Malik Jackson,

1237
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: two of the highest paid defensive tackles in the league,

1238
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: as role players. It's like people given Darius all the

1239
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: credit now that they can stop the run suddenly, so

1240
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: he's playing twenty five snaps a game, like you can't

1241
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: even give him all the credit. They don't need. They're

1242
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: like ten or eleven deep. I think they have the

1243
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: potential to be one of the best defenses we've seen

1244
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: over the last three or four years. They got to

1245
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: close out the season strong, and all those guys are

1246
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: under contract moving forward, So this is a defense that

1247
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: should stay together. Let's move on. The Denver Broncos are

1248
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: traveling to Oakland to face and Um, I mean I

1249
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: that sounded like a man on his last breath. That

1250
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: might have been. Um. The last breath of me believing

1251
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: in the Raiders was that no show against the Patriots.

1252
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: Uh uh? And now they get the Broncos, another team

1253
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: that couldn't be a bigger disappointment this show. These might

1254
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: be the two biggest disappointments in the league this year.

1255
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: And what and Mark, let's start here. Um, we've already

1256
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: forked the Broncos. You want to fork the Raiders too?

1257
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: For today before this game, we're getting into dangerous territory

1258
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: because you know we're gonna basically have to we have

1259
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 1: to nail the a f C. Well, it's not supposed

1260
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: to be easy, though, and you and I I am

1261
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: one too. I will fork before I should. And I

1262
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with having to send a charity

1263
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: scenario out to someone, which we've not always been great

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Speaker 1: with that, but w huh you premature for worker in

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01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: this case. I am I listen. I I don't believe

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01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: in Oakland. I haven't for weeks and weeks, and it's

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Speaker 1: becoming an entire narrative. It was predictable. I was gonna say,

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01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: you've been bagging on Oakland all year problem and I

1269
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: did not. I was not surprised they didn't show up

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Speaker 1: against the Patriots. Get out of my life. I again,

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Speaker 1: I have stud by them. I thought they were gonna

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Speaker 1: make a run. I thought they were going to get

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01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: a wild card potentially, but I just lost any faith.

1274
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: They just have too many holes and they just don't

1275
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: seem to have the Jews. Have we considered, you know,

1276
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: the ramifications of our dear friend Derek Carr, who is

1277
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: on this show. You know he we brought him back.

1278
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: We said we would say a nice thing about them

1279
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: every week, and uh, my thing I'm gonna say, Well,

1280
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I think they still have a chance

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01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs, and I'm not allowing them to

1282
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: be forked. They got the Broncos this week, perfect matchup.

1283
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 1: You know, the their defense has never been saved solved

1284
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: under Jack Del Rio. I don't think it will be

1285
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Speaker 1: this season. So you gotta only beat teams that have

1286
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,919
Speaker 1: problems on offense. You can beat the Broncos at home,

1287
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: you can beat the Giants at home next week. Then

1288
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: you're six and six and a lousy a f C

1289
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: schedule not too easy after that. But they have something,

1290
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: and that's car and that's the offensive line that some

1291
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: weapons like. When I look across the a f C landscape,

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01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: at least they got something you can hold onto. I

1293
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: think they can get the eight wins. I don't know

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01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: if that's gonna be enough or not. I like the

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01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: Ravens better, but the Raiders might be, you know, the

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01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: second team that that would take a chance on if

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01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: that's to happen, and it's certainly possible. I would like

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01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: to see them when I watched them, to feel any

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01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: sense of enjoyment. They they've tumbled off such a cliff

1300
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: from how when they were to watch a year ago.

1301
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: And I look at the Broncos and Raiders both and say,

1302
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: for for Jack del Rio, for Vance Joseph, it has

1303
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: been a long year coaching wise, it's just been a

1304
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: rough road for these two teams. They're both vastly disappointed.

1305
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: We haven't even talked about. Mike McCoy, coordinator to the Broncos,

1306
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 1: has been fired. That happened right after our last show

1307
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: on Monday morning. And there's a lot of talk that

1308
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: John Elway. You know, he's a competitive guy. He's got

1309
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: his hands in all this and this was his hand

1310
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: picked guy. Joseph McCoy was a guy who had worked

1311
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: under Elway before. He's got his quarterbacks. He brings back Broncos.

1312
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: While it's not been a good couple of years for

1313
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: John Elway has not had many good drafts. His last

1314
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: Pro bowler he drafted was Von Miller. It just looks

1315
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: like it looks yeah, well there you go. It looks

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01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: like a guy it's pointing fingers now. Uh and maybe

1317
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: from the outside, maybe not taking culp ability like he

1318
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: to to fire Mike McCoy. And let's there were rumbles

1319
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: that the offensive scheme was too complicated. That was the

1320
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: whole thing that he wasn't pairing it down for this

1321
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: Just like this idea that you put brock Osweiler in

1322
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: a quarterback who to me is one of the bottom

1323
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks in all football, maybe the worst, and you

1324
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: give him three weeks and then you fire because the

1325
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: offense didn't get better. It's like you don't even give

1326
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: this guy a chance. It's called scapegoating. It happens in

1327
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: many arenas. And I think this will be Paxton Lynch's

1328
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: first start uh this season. We don't know as we

1329
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: tape this, but I do think this is the week

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01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: that they make a move. Um. All right, So there

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01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: you go, by the way. That wraps up the four

1332
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: Committee for two thousand seventeen, and now just the final

1333
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: rundown of the damned before we move on to our

1334
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: final two games. The Cloud Run Bruins, Sont Francisco, Fart

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01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: and Owners, n Ark Johnts, Indianapolis Colts, Tampa Bay book

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01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: on Ours, Chicago Burrs, yastin Twikson's since not deep but

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01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: brodcas GAMEBA Poker's Washington raskin Buffalo Bills, I mean two three.

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Speaker 1: Some of the pronunciation choices were curious. I like, I

1339
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: always like to get to sixteen. Do you say the Redskins?

1340
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: I feel like, yes you did. You might have heard

1341
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: something else that would not blame you if you did.

1342
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 1: I like personally, I like when we can get to

1343
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: sixteen of thirty two and four calf the league. We

1344
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: got to fourteen this year. Um, but we'll see again.

1345
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 1: And if we get any of these teams wrong, if

1346
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: one of these teams ends up making a playoff, uh,

1347
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: making to the playoffs, we will donate to a charity

1348
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: from that I believe Colleen was going to be because

1349
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: we're incredible earning power. The Green Bay Packers are um

1350
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: a lost cause with Brett Hunley quarterback, and now they

1351
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: get a treat and a game that Greg fought so

1352
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 1: hard value and lee. He fought to have this game

1353
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: flexed away from us. But instead we get the Green

1354
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. Yeah, who would have thought? Who would have

1355
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: seen this coming? A two touchdown underdog on Sunday night

1356
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: football traveling Hines Field to face the Steelers who just

1357
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: put up a forty burger on the Tytoons in their

1358
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: previous game, and then get a MIDI by and now

1359
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: get the Packers without Aaron Rodgers. Uh. Greg al Michaels,

1360
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: you know it took a shot at hour earlier that

1361
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: you kind of go to me into but they are

1362
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: just you brought them up without even saying it's just

1363
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 1: not gonna get any better for him. Collinsworth and Michael's

1364
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: and Tafoya and our girl Carrie Underwood, they're all getting

1365
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: banged again this week. Well said, I I love that

1366
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: the Steelers have so many home games down the stretch.

1367
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 1: They're very good home team. And I think that's one

1368
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: thing that was overlooked when you were getting so upset

1369
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 1: Marc Scessor that the Steelers aren't They're not the dream team.

1370
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: The Steelers aren't the dream team. They haven't been everything

1371
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: that we had hoped in and dreamed early in the season.

1372
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: But then you have five out of seven seven games

1373
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: to end the season at home. That was the most

1374
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: heavy road schedule in the league. They're not a great

1375
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: road team, you know, historically under Tomlin, and maybe that's

1376
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: why we haven't seen them be quite as good as

1377
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: we'd like to see. I don't put it past them

1378
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: having a stinker of a first half. That's just kind

1379
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: of what they do. But I am hoping not only

1380
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: has Ben Roethlisberger's fantasy owner, but just as a fan

1381
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 1: of football, to see a good game out of Roethlisburger,

1382
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 1: because he had his best thirty minutes of football I

1383
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 1: think of the season in the second half against Tennessee.

1384
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: I liked it. What I can get behind with Pittsburgh

1385
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: is not their offense, which is going to invariably be

1386
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,799
Speaker 1: missing some major cog in the playoffs like they always

1387
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: do and and and produce a nineteen point game. But

1388
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: their defense. Their defense is right there with Baltimore's. And

1389
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: I think there's a there's a lot of reason to

1390
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: believe that. For me, the reason they can get deeper

1391
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: into the playoffs just because the defense is no fluke.

1392
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 1: They got a ton of young players and they're doing

1393
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 1: a great job there. I know we should move on.

1394
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: The problem with the NFL late in this season is

1395
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: all the teams that lost their quarterbacks, like and I,

1396
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: and I realized that's doing the QB Index every week.

1397
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 1: All the teams that lost their quarterbacks, all of none

1398
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: of the backups have been surprisingly good. They've all been

1399
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 1: kind of exactly what, Yeah, But he's the he's the

1400
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: top guy of the of that entire group. All of

1401
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: the guys that have come in have been about as

1402
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 1: bad or worse than you expect. And so then you

1403
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 1: have these matchups where these teams when they play a

1404
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,759
Speaker 1: good defense, it's like they got no shot. What happened

1405
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: to Frank Reich? What happened to Gary Cooper? Where's the

1406
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,719
Speaker 1: real men? All? Right? Less people asking about Gary Cooper

1407
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,839
Speaker 1: right now? But yes, finally Monday Night football, the Houston Texans,

1408
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: a team that was undone, although Shaw Watson was the

1409
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: backup technically in the season, started not counting that, but

1410
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 1: then he got hurt. The original starter Tom Savage came

1411
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 1: back and he's thanks, but at least he's coming off

1412
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: a good game um last week against the Cardinals. They

1413
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 1: travel to Baltimore, though, to face the Ravens team that

1414
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,640
Speaker 1: is flying mark three shutouts of the season. Is this

1415
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: the best Ravens defense in the post Rayy Lewis Era? Oh?

1416
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: I think easily post ray Lewis easily. I mean, I

1417
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: think it's challenging. It's it's not two thousand, but it's

1418
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: getting close to that in some performances. Every time you

1419
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: turn around, you see someone new on this defense making

1420
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: a major play that game last week, Carl Davis, Michael Pierce,

1421
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: Willie Henry. If they have waited Terrell Suggs playing like

1422
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: he's twenty four years old still, which I thought in September.

1423
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 1: That's one thing. It's almost December and it's still the case.

1424
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith had a huge turnover last week. I mean,

1425
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 1: they're just able to take an offense completely out of

1426
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 1: the game. And I understand Tom Savage a little bit

1427
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: of an uptick last Sunday week, not this time. This

1428
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 1: is this is very similar the way I see the

1429
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: Steelers Packers game. The difference to me is the Ravens

1430
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: don't have an offense though, so I I mean, this

1431
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: is a game where I expect a lot of complaining

1432
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 1: on Twitter because it's nine to three late in the

1433
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 1: third quarter. I mean, the Ravens have shown nothing. I

1434
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 1: was hopeful they'd come out of the bi look a

1435
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 1: little better on offense. They did not. They look just

1436
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: as bad, if not worse against Green Bay on the whole.

1437
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 1: And uh, their defense is good. They've had moments though,

1438
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 1: where they kind of just give up big drives against

1439
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 1: good teams, like even Tennessee. You know, you had a

1440
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 1: chance to win that game. They couldn't close that out.

1441
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,759
Speaker 1: So I'm not ready to put them as some great defense.

1442
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: They look pretty good A few years ago when they

1443
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 1: got into the playoffs. They were looking good for a

1444
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: while last year, like let's see it against a good opponent.

1445
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 1: They're lucky. They don't play any good opponents practically the

1446
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: rest of the way. That's why I like them as

1447
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,759
Speaker 1: a six seed. Well, we have to like them because

1448
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: we've forked almost the Intent Conference. Well we left the

1449
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 1: little wiggle room now with the Raiders still alive, but

1450
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: the Chargers. We left the rave and the and the

1451
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: Chargers there. But the Ravens they get this week, they

1452
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: can get to six and five they take care of business,

1453
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 1: which I do think they will. Then they get another

1454
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: home game against the Detroit and then they get at

1455
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh at Cleveland home to Colts Verse. Since I think

1456
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 1: they're gonna find the way to the final three games.

1457
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: Could you couldn't ask for us? Yeah? I mean you

1458
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:01,440
Speaker 1: really have? You really have one tough game at Pittsburgh

1459
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 1: and then one kind of toss up you know home

1460
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 1: for Detroit. That's a good schedule. Um, okay, there you go.

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01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: That is the week twelve preview. Like we said earlier, Um,

1462
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 1: you next time you will hear from us as usual

1463
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: Thursday night, but that is Thanksgiving, which is not usual

1464
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: we'll recap the three games we talked about at the

1465
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: top of the show. Also, this is our Tuesday video show,

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Speaker 1: of course, so make sure you check it out. Excuse me,

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Speaker 1: make sure you check it out. I'm struggling today. Um

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Speaker 1: at O, here we go. Is it nine thirty Eastern

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01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: or nine? It's nine o'clock eight then six o'clock Pacific.

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Speaker 1: On NFL dot com. Slash a t n video the

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Speaker 1: full show and you can check out our archive there.

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Speaker 1: And I think I hope um some our NFL pick

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Speaker 1: them stuffs. They're all good stuff. So thank you to

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Speaker 1: everyone for listening. And um, I have a happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the games, yes well, and if you live overseas

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Speaker 1: you can look at this holiday with utter disdain. If

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Speaker 1: if you're over it depends where you are, but you

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Speaker 1: know what a treat I feel like. If you're in Australia,

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Speaker 1: dial up the old NFL Game Pass on a Thursday.

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Speaker 1: You got a triple header. That's kind of fun. If

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Speaker 1: you're in London, it's on our friends on Sky Sports.

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Speaker 1: Got a triple header just on a random week day

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Speaker 1: in the week. That's the way. But the timing you're

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Speaker 1: in London and so Let's let's get behind a band

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Speaker 1: of dissidents that floated over to the New World and

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Speaker 1: started to you know, you know, feel the roads over there,

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Speaker 1: and what I was excited? Are they supposed to be

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Speaker 1: about that? Politically? Get over Let's save it for the

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Speaker 1: Dissidents podcast. Alright, the referendum on Thanksgiving, The stand hands

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Speaker 1: are signing off a quiet storm. Connie Fox, the old

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Speaker 1: Boss c A and I'll laugh behind the glass till

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving night.