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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation, How we doing well? That's good

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Speaker 2: us too. Our number two of the drive here on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold was Shuler Matt Williamson. Back in our palacious studio

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Speaker 2: estate after a week on radio row inside the Indiana

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Speaker 2: Convention Center. We got our steps in. We had some

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Speaker 2: good food, some good time, some good conversation, and we

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Speaker 2: learned plenty about this upcoming draft class in the process

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Speaker 2: before we get back into some of that and free agency.

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Speaker 2: And we've gotten a ton of tweets over the last

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Speaker 2: week or so. Oh, I bet that we need to

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Speaker 2: get into too. But first, Matt, News of the day,

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Speaker 2: because there's been plenty of moving and shaking around the

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Speaker 2: NFL today, and perhaps the biggest one, I think a

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Speaker 2: trade between the Lions and the Texans. You and I

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Speaker 2: talked about. I think it was the week before we

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Speaker 2: went to the combine, so two weeks ago. How Houston

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Speaker 2: feels like a team that really needs a running back,

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Speaker 2: really needs c J. Stroud to have a consistent run game,

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Speaker 2: something he's never had. To lean on. We talked about

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Speaker 2: maybe like a guy like Kenneth Walker in free agency.

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Speaker 3: We yeah, I guess, I guess that's.

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Speaker 2: Still not impossible. That's not completely probably much more doubtful.

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Speaker 2: Because the Houston Texans, Sonic and Knuckles broken up in Detroit,

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Speaker 2: the Lions sending running back David Montgomery to the Texans

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Speaker 2: for a fourth round pick, a seventh round pick, and

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Speaker 2: offensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: Juice Scrugs. I wanna start with the Lions because I

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Speaker 3: think the Texans are the bigger conversation Montgomery asked for

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Speaker 3: a trade. They're not gonna give him money. Gibbs is

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Speaker 3: a superstar. They're gonna give him more and more touches

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Speaker 3: as they should. Nothing against you, David, but you're older,

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Speaker 3: you got all of wearing a tear in your body.

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Speaker 3: We'll just draft a big back, probably in the fifth

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Speaker 3: or sixth round, and get younger and cheaper there, and

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Speaker 3: Gibbs is going to get featured. Cool. Okay, makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a pretty good haul for Montgomery, though,

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Speaker 3: I mean, considering his age, fourth round picks really far

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Speaker 3: from nothing. I mean I thought he'd get a fifth

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Speaker 3: straight up type of deal. Scruggs hasn't been particularly good,

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Speaker 3: and he's had a hard time staying on the field.

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Speaker 3: But he was a day two pick center slash guard,

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Speaker 3: which is a real area of issue for them, just

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Speaker 3: two years ago. So he's on a rookie deal and

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Speaker 3: he was recently a high pick and a position in need.

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Speaker 3: It's gravy, I mean, but Hank Frayley's their line coach.

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Speaker 3: I bet he's dialed it. I bet he liked him

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Speaker 3: a lot coming out of Penn State, you know, like,

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Speaker 3: get something out of them, you know. So I think

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Speaker 3: that's a really nice haul for the Lions, you know.

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Speaker 2: Fourth or seventh and an offensive line project for a

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Speaker 2: running back that you would have probably cut anyways. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if they would after this year.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's not the long term plans.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's that's that's really good business. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: for Detroit, and it makes sense for Houston.

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Speaker 3: I get it for Houston.

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Speaker 2: David Montgomery can play me somebody I can trust. When

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Speaker 2: those I think it was Saturday, maybe that the reports

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Speaker 2: or he did put in a trade request. Of course,

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Speaker 2: you know, all all my buddies in the group chat

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Speaker 2: this and that, and I was like, hey, I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: hate to pair him with Jalen Warren.

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Speaker 3: No, right, right? And what would it take?

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Speaker 2: Conversation comes out right away, and I was like, I'd

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Speaker 3: That's about where I was at this Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Have two six rounders. I definitely give up a sixth

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Speaker 3: Make you wonder if there are a handful of teams interested,

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Speaker 2: Have been a viable project there at offensive line too,

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Speaker 2: So I think it makes a lot of sense for

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Speaker 3: I mean, he again, as you mentioned, Houston needs some

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Speaker 3: needs to start with a running game, start from the

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Speaker 3: Stroud to make his life easier. I want to talk

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Speaker 2: The last three years, he has over twenty five hundred

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Speaker 2: and that's that's like sharing the backfield with one of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so that's exactly what they need. They're they're

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Speaker 3: gonna cut mix and that's an absolute foregone conclusion. But

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Speaker 3: here's here's the weird part. Is one year ago they

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four, they had one of the worst

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Speaker 3: and they traded their two veterans, and their their logic

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Speaker 3: we just want these guys kind of think their own way.

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Speaker 3: And they did draft some guys, but Tunsall's thud and

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Speaker 3: Then they trade Titus Howard to the Browns is the

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Speaker 3: one of the worst offensive lines in the league. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: drop here, you know, Like, I'm sure they watched all

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Speaker 3: those offensive linemen. We talked about the draft and said, boy,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of those we like, we think we

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Speaker 3: Trent Williams and the Niners part ways, they must have

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Speaker 3: something lined up, because you can't just it's a they've

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Speaker 3: traded four offensive linemen in two years.

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Speaker 2: Basically bad might be a little too strong, but it's

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Speaker 2: a offensive line that certainly needs help.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely their biggest need.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely, it's definitely their biggest need. And they just

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Speaker 2: traded two guys and they've traded, as you mentioned, multiple in.

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Speaker 3: The last couple of years.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's not an easy free agency position

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Speaker 3: Can someone lined up in free agency or a trade

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Speaker 2: They need offensive line help probably more than anybody in the.

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Speaker 2: And I think they said they want to use him

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Speaker 3: I'd say they extended him as soon as they got him.

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Speaker 3: I think he's most comfortable with tackle. He's a former

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Speaker 3: first round pick. But I'm sure people are still gonna

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Speaker 3: it's a good starting point. At least he's going to

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Speaker 2: And that's hey. If you've got him, if you've got

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Speaker 3: They made the picks to give. They had a lot

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Speaker 2: They do they do, speaking offensive lineman. The Chiefs have

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Speaker 2: informed Juwan Taylor that he will be released before the

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Speaker 2: start of the new year, barring a trade that will

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Speaker 2: save the Chiefs twenty million dollars in cap space. Good player,

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Speaker 2: not a great player, fine play, a lot of penalties

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Speaker 3: But he's a starting right tackle. He's a sneeze.

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Speaker 2: He's a starting tackle in the NFL, and those guys

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Speaker 3: They gave Jalen Moore almost the same deal as Dan

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Speaker 3: fine there. Taylor's just not worth twenty I mean he's

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Speaker 3: he'll someone starting right tackle, I would, yes, absolutely, And

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Speaker 3: they don't have a ton of cap space from what

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Speaker 3: I gather too, Like they got to make some movie Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Think in theory they would have liked to keep Juwan Taylor.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, he's uh he's the you know, somebody's gotta go.

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Speaker 2: He's the B plus student making valedictorian money. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: and and that's the difference there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the athletic put out a list today and

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Speaker 3: I think we've even seen it of every team's likely

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Speaker 3: And it sounds like, you know, Latimore has has been

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Speaker 3: lot of names you guys have heard of, and mostly

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Speaker 3: there's something wrong with them. I was gonna say, say,

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Speaker 3: probably don't want to necessarily jump on them, but they

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Speaker 3: don't hurt your comp equation, which is big. These guys

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Speaker 2: I already saw some of the social media aggregator accounts,

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Speaker 2: the six Burg Black and Gold accounts tweeting about Latimore.

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Speaker 2: I'm good. He was terrible.

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Speaker 3: He was terrible. He's had a.

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Speaker 2: Major injury late in the season.

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Speaker 3: I'm good.

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Speaker 2: I know it's a big name and once upon a

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Speaker 2: time he was great. That screams Darius Slay two point

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Speaker 3: They gave up substantial draft picks to the Saints and

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Speaker 3: he's been bad every step of the way with Washington.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Bengals agreeing to an extension with Dalton Reisner worth

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Speaker 2: up to worth up to five million dollars.

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Speaker 3: He's a quality guard.

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Speaker 2: He's a quality guard. And they traded for him in

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Speaker 2: season last year, didn't they?

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Speaker 3: Or he may have been a late free agent. He

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Speaker 3: might have been like a Sante Samuel like free agent

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Speaker 3: that was getting over an injury, and.

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Speaker 2: That sounds rad was it was a different type of situation.

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Speaker 3: But he definitely wasn't Bengal this time last year. No, No,

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Speaker 2: He sure did. And they they're another one who needs

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Speaker 2: needs help in that department. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you mentioned

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowl former Pro Bowl corner Marshawn Lattimore will be

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Speaker 2: released by the Commanders. That will save them eighteen and

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Speaker 2: You know, hey, if the prices the price is right. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Know, massive and say it was a big contract.

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Speaker 2: It was a big contract. And he's another one man

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Speaker 3: He's so good.

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Speaker 3: He's the guy that Dale and I often said was

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so that's your news of the day ladies,

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Speaker 5: And I bet we will for three weeks, and I

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Speaker 3: And all that handful. His team still are not cap compliant.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and Matt at the end of the month, we've

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Speaker 3: I want something I wish we could comment on now,

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Speaker 1: Your tune's about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 2: Rolling along here on the Drive on this Monday, plenty

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Speaker 2: of combine talks and free agency thoughts, moving and shaking

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Speaker 2: We did briefly mention but man Jeremiah Love had himself

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Speaker 3: I think he's a really good chance. He's the best

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Speaker 2: I can only hurt myself here, right, I can.

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Speaker 3: Only kind of go backwards at this point. No one's

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Speaker 3: How early could he go? And don't only draft order

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Speaker 2: I would be shocked. And I don't even know if

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Speaker 2: But I would be shocked if he made it past

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Speaker 3: Nobody trades up for running backs nowadays. But could someone

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Speaker 3: If I was Tennessee. They have so many other needs too,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna fill a lot. Yeah, they're not gonna sign

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Speaker 3: I'm not usually big on investing in running backs. I'm

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Speaker 2: Hey if he says that he means it, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Let's see here.

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Speaker 3: Four or five three or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but right in the same range as Ceedee Lamb,

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Speaker 3: I was going to go too, Like if you told

438
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,680
Speaker 3: me two years ago that somebody like Carnel Tate goes

439
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 3: to the combine and runs a four five three, like

440
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:17,880
Speaker 3: that's fine. Speed's vastly overrated. He's not a burner. Frankly,

441
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 3: we know he's gonna go to Ohio States and it'll

442
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 3: be a little bit better.

443
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 2: Nine yard track you always talk about in Columbus.

444
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:27,879
Speaker 3: If he can miss make it look like a four

445
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 3: four nine, which really isn't much different, but just the

446
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,880
Speaker 3: I appeals a little better. I don't think he'll heard

447
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 3: of them at all.

448
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,360
Speaker 2: Wide receiver Arrow up, arrow down, arrow up on ted

449
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,360
Speaker 2: Hurst arrowed down on Malachi Fields.

450
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:47,160
Speaker 3: Yes and no, definitely on Hurst. Dude and Lance.

451
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 2: Hurst might not last all day three, now.

452
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 3: I don't think. I think Lance and Hurst are two

453
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 3: small school guys that are real legit that probably could

454
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 3: have played a lot of different places, just stuck where

455
00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 3: they did because they you know, loyalty that are big,

456
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 3: fast downfield guys and they play that way. There's a

457
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 3: lot of people stock downing fields and no one. I

458
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 3: never thought he was super explosive or burner, but you know,

459
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit of a nerd. He had the

460
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,400
Speaker 3: best recone of all of them. He did, and that's

461
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 3: just a big deal. A lot like Smith and Jigba

462
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 3: and some of these guys, like you know, I'd rather

463
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,199
Speaker 3: nobody runs freecones, so having the best there's not as

464
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 3: many people that do it. But still his time was

465
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 3: quite good in the three cone for that's hard for

466
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 3: six three six y four human being. That's a little

467
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 3: that's a short guy drill. You know, he's one of

468
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 3: those ones.

469
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 2: If he wants to hang around till day two and

470
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 2: be an option for the Steelers, I'm just fine with that.

471
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

472
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 3: In the fifty ish neighborhood.

473
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt, there's always a name at the combine, particularly

474
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 2: on Saturdays. Now when that's quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers

475
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 2: that the prom king positions right that we didn't even

476
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 2: really mention, or maybe did just once or so heading

477
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 2: into the process, that starts to get on everybody's radar.

478
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 2: For me, that's Cincinnati wide receiver Jeff Caldwell to one

479
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 2: six five two fifteen ran a four three one a

480
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 2: split of one point four eight. I mean, the best

481
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 2: of anyone on Saturday. Yeah, forty two inches on the vertical,

482
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 2: I mean insanely athletic, insanely fast and at six five

483
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 2: two fifteen, Yes, that could work.

484
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,679
Speaker 3: So I mentioned I was listening to Dane's first podcast

485
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 3: post Combine. Of course he knew who he was, but

486
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 3: I wouldn't get too excited about him, like take him

487
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,719
Speaker 3: in the second round just because of his numbers, at

488
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 3: least as it was. Dane's thoughts on him Combine was

489
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 3: he'll probably get drafted, but like wasn't even one thousand

490
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 3: percent certain. And now he's definitely gonna get drafted, you know,

491
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 3: but fifth rounded sure, Like, but he's the perfect guy

492
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 3: that we've talked about. Is that last piece of the puzzle.

493
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 2: Free agent first or second rounder than him, Bang yeah,

494
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 2: and coach him up.

495
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 3: Coach him up, yeah, give.

496
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 2: Him a year on special teams, use that big frame

497
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 2: rundown field, knock people around and see what happens to

498
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: make a couple of plays and grow and develop. Absolutely,

499
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 2: and then Matt most of what I think the you know,

500
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 2: the real draftnicks, the real talent evaluators of this process,

501
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 2: thought that ty Simpson helped his stock over the weekend.

502
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 3: He threw the best of everyone and really looked apart.

503
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 3: And I do think he's finally healthy. I don't know

504
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 3: if he's for me or for the Steelers and all

505
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 3: that good stuff, but I think he's going to go

506
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 3: in the first round back half of it. You know,

507
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 3: the Jets, I think picked seventeen with their second choice.

508
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 3: I think that's the earliest he could go. He feels

509
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 3: a lot like Dark sixteen sixteen, right, I mean yeah,

510
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 3: feels a lot like Dart a year ago, where one

511
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 3: of those teams that are bad and moves up from

512
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 3: the second round to twenty six to get him and

513
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 3: get the fifth year option. Steelers will highly consider him.

514
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 3: They definitely did look at quarterbacks heavily, and you know

515
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 3: that was no secret. A lot of the guys that

516
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 3: went to the podium mentioned the Steelers. I guess I

517
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 3: haven't done the podium stuff, but I think he's helping

518
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: himself during this process. But I told people he would,

519
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 3: you know, like his the last time he saw him

520
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 3: play football wasn't so great and he wasn't healthy. But

521
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: he's a son of a coach's kid. Everyone says his

522
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 3: interviews are going to be phenomenal and he's going to

523
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 3: throw the ball way better now than he did at

524
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 3: the end of his season. But she did. Sure, Mendoza

525
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 3: didn't throw, but I guess he had the best throat

526
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 3: consensus was the best passer in drills in it.

527
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: According to McShay ty, Simpson faces legitimate concerns such as

528
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 2: his non prototype frame, durability questions and inexperience as we've

529
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 2: talked about just fifteen starts in his college career. That

530
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 2: combination makes teams uneasy. But overall, the sentiment coming out

531
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 2: of Indy he helped himself.

532
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, it feels like he.

533
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 2: Continuing to check the boxes and everything throughout the rest

534
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: of this process is going to be a first rounder.

535
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 2: I would think in the quarterback in the Jackson Dart range.

536
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, in that maybe the home run and who knows.

537
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: I think that's still wait till next year.

538
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,959
Speaker 2: I would too, and it Hey, maybe if it's different,

539
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 2: if by the time the draft rolls around, Aaron Rodgers

540
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: is in place, and you're like, we can we can

541
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 2: stash this guy for a year, we can let him,

542
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 2: we can let him learn from one of the all

543
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: time greats.

544
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 3: You have a lot of needs fixed, as we already

545
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 3: talked about.

546
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: You know that, I think is the only route that

547
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 2: I would convince myself on Ty Simpson.

548
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 3: Is it like if I would love him to be

549
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: in the same room with Rogers.

550
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 2: If I'm the Rams and I can get him and

551
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: let him sit behind Stafford for a year, sign me up.

552
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: But there's not many of those situations around the league

553
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 2: right now.

554
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 3: Really good for Pittsburgh l A.

555
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: I don't know who else has that like, yeah, going

556
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: to be there for one year type of thing. Ye,

557
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 2: so yeah, but someone someone's going to continue to fall

558
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 2: in love with him, Someone's going to take him because

559
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: everyone you know, it's a position of need.

560
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 3: It's what would worry me as a team like the

561
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 3: Jets or the Browns move up from early second, grab

562
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 3: them and just ruin them and throw them right in

563
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 3: and don't block for them.

564
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 2: Or yeah, we have seen that fish.

565
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 3: It happens all time.

566
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: We have seen that that fish before.

567
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 5: Uh.

568
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: And then you talked about how it feels like a

569
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: fast track. How you and I were like, these guys

570
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: are so specialized. Now there's everyone is spending months training

571
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: for this position. Groups were historically fast.

572
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 3: Matt crazy.

573
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: Defensive backs average forty time was four point four to

574
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 2: four seconds, best of all time.

575
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 3: The safeties in particular were crazy.

576
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 2: Best of all time. Wide receivers average four point four

577
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 2: to four seconds, best of all time, running backs four

578
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: point four to five seconds, best of all time. Linebackers

579
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 2: four point five to five seconds. The average time for

580
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: an off ball linebacker. Yeah, first all time.

581
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: That really stood out to be linebackers in safeties. These

582
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: never run like.

583
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: Them can move and not just like sunny styles from

584
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 2: Ohio State and some of these top guys that we've talked.

585
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 3: About close to being alone, there's a million of them.

586
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 2: Quarterback forty times four point six second, fastest all all

587
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: the time, tight end forty times four point six three

588
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 2: first all time defensive line.

589
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 3: Seaks running like four to three's.

590
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: Running four to three to nine. Imagine that guy coming

591
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: at you Google.

592
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, defensive endit guys jumping forty five Did you catch this?

593
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, No, you're fine.

594
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: Sadik set the tight end vertical.

595
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 2: Record, and then Stewers broke it, right, and.

596
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 3: Then there was somebody in between it because they do

597
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 3: them alphabetic. Yeah, yeah, there were some Jabbroni in between

598
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 3: them who did whatever, and then Stowers broke it, like

599
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 3: forty five seconds.

600
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Yeah, it's unbelievable. Defensive line fastest of all time

601
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 2: four point eight three seconds, Offensive line fastest of all time.

602
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: Five like five sixes anymore.

603
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: On the O line, every back, guys, every position group

604
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: had their best forty aggregate combined average all time except

605
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: for quarterbacks, and they were second second.

606
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. Now we know everyone's getting faster, better trained.

607
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 3: You know, that's just evolution. And I do think that

608
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 3: track is faster than it used to be because like

609
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 3: two or three years ago, they said they changed the turf,

610
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: not necessarily for that reason. They change it for the cold,

611
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 3: not for the combine, but it is considered a faster

612
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 3: surface than it was ten years ago or whatever. But also,

613
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: the slow guys aren't running. I mean when all that

614
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 3: part really makes sense. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, they're gonna cut.

615
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: They're gonna cut some weight and run at their pro

616
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: day or whatever they have.

617
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: For comfortable or want you know. Yeah, I want to

618
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 3: train more for it. I don't know. But the slow

619
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 3: guys aren't running, But I think they should all run

620
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 3: there because.

621
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: It's a fast track either there in Ohio state.

622
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

623
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple more takeaways before we before we get

624
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: to our last break and get to some tweets before

625
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 2: we get out of here. Florida defensive lineman Caleb Banks

626
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: eighty five and three three fourths inch wing span longest

627
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: by a defensive tackle in twenty five years. He also

628
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: ran a five four forty at three hundred and twenty

629
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: seven pounds.

630
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was kind of hoping he'd be there at

631
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: twenty one. I don't Yeah, I think he's the one detach.

632
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: I think he's DT one now and I think he

633
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: will go off the board in the in the in

634
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: the first twenty picks. Sonny Styles forty three and a

635
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: half inch vertical Best Buy a linebacker since two thousand

636
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: and three, Kenyon Sadik broke the forty yard dash record

637
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: four point three nine seconds, actually held by Dorian Dickerson

638
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: of Pitt, the of this parish for a long time.

639
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: West Day West.

640
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: Day, Babe, Palco, Palco, Palco. You there at West Day.

641
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: That's why I yep.

642
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: He actually told me hilarious story one time because his

643
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: final three schools were Pete Carroll's USC Urban Myers, Florida,

644
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: and Dave Wantstat's Pitt.

645
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 3: Really okay, and he was right after I left, he was.

646
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: He went to tell Dave Wanstadt that he wanted to

647
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: take visits to Florida and the USC and Dave well,

648
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: he was like, Dave Wanstadt is like eating a steak

649
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: and he looks at me and he goes, hey, you

650
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: come here. I promise you. You're gonna be able to

651
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: go to California in Florida any time you want. You're

652
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: gonna make good money, all right. You go to those places.

653
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: You go to those places for vacations, not to developers

654
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: a football player. Like he was like, he gave me this,

655
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: like this is where you're from, Like you could go

656
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: to California and Florida to visit any time you want

657
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: you and that hooked him and got him.

658
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Speaker 3: He was like, all right, coach, Yeah, I guess you're right.

659
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna stay here.

660
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean Jeremiah Love four point three six.

661
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Speaker 2: I don't know if he caught it, but unbelievable.

662
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Speaker 3: His dad. I guess his dad's really tight with him

663
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Speaker 3: and has been and driving factor. And his dad was

664
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Speaker 3: upset with that number. Not because he was like, Sonny boy,

665
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Speaker 3: you're not you know, living up to the expectations. He's

666
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Speaker 3: just because he knew Love can Love wouldn't be happy

667
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Speaker 3: with it.

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Speaker 2: Like it was hilarious that a running back of his

669
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Speaker 2: size is not happy with a sub four or four times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because he ran a second time because he was

671
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Speaker 3: disenchanted with the first one. And some people say he

672
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Speaker 3: might run a Notre Dame because he can do it faster.

673
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Speaker 2: He just do it faster.

674
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Speaker 3: He's just that competitive.

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Speaker 2: Hey, that's the type of guy you want. That's what

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Speaker 2: you like to hear. Let's close this thing down today's

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Speaker 2: show with some of your tweets, some of your questions, comments, concerns, reactions.

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Speaker 2: On the other side was Shuler Matt Williamson. It is

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Speaker 2: the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: Back on the Drive here on this Monday final segment

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Speaker 2: of the day. You know what that means, and it's

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Speaker 2: time to close things down with some of your tweets,

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Speaker 2: Matt Michael Edesso, one of our p ones, regular real

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Speaker 2: front of the show, front in real life out at

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Speaker 2: training camp.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mada mccamp, that's cool.

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Speaker 2: Draft scenario question pick nine Sunny Styles is still available.

691
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Speaker 2: Would you consider trading up to get him a bonus?

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00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: You'd be jumping Cincinnati and keeping him away from them too.

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Speaker 3: I would love to get that guy, no matter what

694
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: I think. He's a total superstar. He's one of the

695
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 3: I always do the If I had to put a

696
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 3: chip down on one player from this draft to go

697
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 3: to Canton, he's he would definitely be in strong. Let's

698
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Speaker 3: do exercise a week before the draft, but he would

699
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 3: be high, high on that list. And that's a lovely thought, Michael.

700
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: But I bet to get that far off at cost

701
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Speaker 3: you a one and a two, not a one in

702
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: a three. That's not a five spot Broderick Jones move

703
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 3: or future day two pick that I don't want to

704
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: get rid of, and really to make it work, I

705
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: would then be looking to trade Queen, and I kind

706
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: of would rather just roll it back because I'm excited

707
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: to see Queen in this defense. Healthy used a little differently,

708
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 3: but linebackers are somewhat of an underrated need too. I mean,

709
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 3: you really only have him and Wilson on the team

710
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: at the moment, and if Queen's gonna leave after the season,

711
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: be awesome to have Styles. I just don't know how

712
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 3: feasible that is. Plus I think he could go like

713
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Speaker 3: six overall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in theory, I would love to have him. I

715
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: don't know I want to pay what it would cost

716
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: to get him when you just you've already got needs

717
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: on defense that are greater than linebacker I think, right,

718
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: and and plenty of mouse defeat on offense too.

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Speaker 3: I would have had to line up perfectly too.

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Speaker 2: I love the player, right, but I just think it's

721
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: going to be an expensive cost to get them.

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Speaker 3: Who would you rather trade up for styles or downs?

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Speaker 2: Ooh, I don't think I'm gonna go downs, like I

724
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Speaker 2: guess it's not even trade up if I could give

725
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Speaker 2: you one out of the sky.

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Speaker 3: Who would you rather have? Oh, Man, I think I

727
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 3: take downs.

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Speaker 2: I think I take down so much lighter there there's

729
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: some but I will say both of those position groups.

730
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Speaker 2: Feels like there's a lot of good options.

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Speaker 3: There are there and you don't have to be incredible there.

732
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Speaker 3: But but I think too.

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Speaker 2: You know a lot of a lot of the people

734
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Speaker 2: that you and I talked to this week have downs

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Speaker 2: number one on their big boards.

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Speaker 3: I think Dane does, and he's not farther than two

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Speaker 3: or three.

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Speaker 2: For anybody, i'd be I'd be very happy with either.

739
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Speaker 2: I would I would trade pick twenty one for either

740
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Speaker 2: right now, without question. Yeah, I think I'd give a

741
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: slight edge to Down, though. Jake tweets and says to

742
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Speaker 2: Taylor Green, do enough to peak your interest this weekend.

743
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 2: We mentioned him earlier. He had a really good.

744
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 3: Weekend, insane weekend. He is a athletic freak. Athletic freak,

745
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Speaker 3: I mean, set like one of the best combines in

746
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Speaker 3: quarterback history. It's like him and Richardson neck and neck,

747
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Speaker 3: except he's six six and a half or whatever. He's

748
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 3: to go hot.

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Speaker 2: I've been talking to you about him since September around

750
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: campus stuff, because he has everything you can't coach.

751
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Speaker 3: And I didn't watch a ton of them on Saturdays

752
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 3: during the season, but I did watch all the Senior

753
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Speaker 3: Bowl stuff, and there's a handful of times where he

754
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 3: just takes off and his stride length is like every

755
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 3: the five yard markers are like gone, gone, gone, gone,

756
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Speaker 3: and he just like.

757
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Speaker 2: He looks like one of it. He looks like some

758
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: of those like six foot ten basketball small forwards. Yeah,

759
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: who could take two steps from mid court and dunk.

760
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, three stuff, three big leaps and they're down

761
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 3: in the court after getting a rebound. Yes, you know

762
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 3: the Greek freaker, somebody like exactly right now. He also

763
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: is very long armed, which people think is a good thing,

764
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 3: but that's part of his problem because his release is

765
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: kind of all over the place. You know, he needs

766
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 3: so much work, So I've done more work on him

767
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 3: since his combine and as you can imagine, accuracy and

768
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Speaker 3: decision making, which probably are the two most important things

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Speaker 3: in a quarterback, like you have to have them or

770
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 3: you can't play the position. Or his biggest weaknesses, yes,

771
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 3: I mean, but he definitely has things he can't coach.

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Speaker 3: I bet he goes to the end of the third

773
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Speaker 3: round to like the Rams or somebody like that that

774
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 3: just sits on him for a while and everyone's already

775
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 3: already being like, well, you can always switch positions, yes,

776
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 3: but I don't know he wants to. Yeah, I mean,

777
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: he's put a lot of time into the quarterbacks.

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00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: Which positions I'd rather just go draft somebody that played

779
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: that position.

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Speaker 3: Of yeah, yeah, yeah, right right to me, he's good receiver.

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00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 3: I mean, he's never run around in his life as

782
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 3: far as I know. I don't like that fallback.

783
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: It's mine just because to prior did at one time

784
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 2: around one thousand yard receiving season doesn't mean that that's

785
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: normal or a lot of people can do it.

786
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 3: Or it's a great plan.

787
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

788
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 3: Now, if you drafted him like the Steelers took him

789
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 3: in the third round, I'd love to have him active

790
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 3: on game day and have a package for him, or

791
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: be your tush push guy at a minimum or whatever,

792
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: get his jersey dirty some way. But that kind of

793
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 3: stuff is if you think he can develop him into

794
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 3: a quarterback, it's worth a pick. But I bet he

795
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: goes late third round like at Joe Milton or you know,

796
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: I think you're right, like I think more impressive.

797
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: I think he could certainly go at the end of

798
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: day two, if not early on day three. And that's

799
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: just again, I mean, I've been talking about this guy

800
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: in the around campus segment since September. Yeah, but I

801
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: as as a Will Howard draft range interest. If he's

802
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: going in the third or fourth round, too rich for

803
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: my blood.

804
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 3: I'm not using third on him.

805
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: No.

806
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 3: No, if he's the Steelers.

807
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: If it's if the sixth round rolls around and you

808
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: have those two picks and he's still there, absolutely sign

809
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 2: me up up.

810
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 3: But I just or use them both to trade up

811
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 3: the end of the fifth or something. Fine. I've drafted

812
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: two receivers and two safeties in the lineman and yeah, yeah.

813
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 2: But he's a He's a guy that I really think

814
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 2: there's potential there. But I'm not giving up high draft

815
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 2: pick for us as much as I am very intrigued

816
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 2: by the skill set and have been for a few months.

817
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 3: A year away from me, a year away. But in

818
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: three years he might he might be Willis. Yeah, yeah,

819
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 3: he easily could be Williss.

820
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: Right, lou tweets and says at pick twenty one, you

821
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: have a defensive lineman, offensive tackle, offensive guards, safety, and

822
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 2: wide receiver, all with the same grade. Which position would

823
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 2: you take?

824
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: Oh boy, it's a good question, lou Well. Tackles are

825
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 3: the hardest to find. They are they are, so I

826
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: would not take a guard.

827
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: I can eliminate guard definitely.

828
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't think you can just by the

829
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: nature of his question, I can't be like, well, this

830
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 3: is super deep safety, draft is super deeperceiver, I'll eriminate them.

831
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 3: I think you just take prospect X with this grade

832
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: on him.

833
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 2: I think I get a wide receiver.

834
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 3: I probably would you need to go You need.

835
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 2: More dynamic playmakers on that offense.

836
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: And next year's first round pick would say, thank you.

837
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:18,479
Speaker 3: I mean you got to think about that guy.

838
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: Continue to build the nest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, something we

839
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 2: touched on a little bit, Matt, but we could talk

840
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: about for a few minutes more. Here Ian tweets and says,

841
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 2: welcome back to the Berg, gentleman, thank you for all

842
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: the content from Indy. With Alec Pierce now likely to

843
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: get tagged, is Dobbs the most likely desirable free agent

844
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 2: wide receiver for the Steelers to target?

845
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: Ah? Yes, But two more names that kept coming up

846
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 3: Dobbs to me is probably my favorite for what he'll

847
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: likely cost and you'll probably overspend a little, but that's

848
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 3: day one a free agency. No matter what, I immediately

849
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: had wanted nothing to do with Wandell Robinson because he's tiny, tiny, tiny,

850
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 3: but he's coming off a really good year and talking

851
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 3: through Mike McCarthy, these passing game philosophies, Wandell Robinson be useful.

852
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: It's a lot of quick hitters, get first down, move

853
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: the chains, pure slot and he's a better player than

854
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 3: you looks that that prototype doesn't do a lot for me,

855
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 3: but you've talked about that. Yeah, yeah, but I do

856
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: understand two big guys on the outside, and him as

857
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 3: a chain mover is of interest and the other one

858
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 3: that pursued had jumped out of his skin, but Rob

859
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 3: brought him up two or three times, kind of like,

860
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: why does Rob keep bringing up Jalen Naylor. Yeah, Steo's

861
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 3: just signed an offensive coach from their staff. I think

862
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 3: they're going to extend Addison. Jefferson's not going anywhere. Nay

863
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: Naylor's a lot better than you think, and pursuit of

864
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 3: love them because Mission State dude.

865
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: But he's like I was gonna say, jumped out of

866
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: his skin. Yeah, excitement.

867
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: He would be a really good three And the more

868
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: I looked into him, immediately thought he's not good enough.

869
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 3: But if that was their free agent signing, I'd be like, Okay,

870
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: now I'm still looking for a round one guy probably,

871
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: but they would have killed for Jalen Naylor last year.

872
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

873
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, he's smart and downfield dude, fast, speedy Naylor.

874
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 3: I think his name is.

875
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: He's He's one that I would certainly be interested in.

876
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: Especially again, you're expensive.

877
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: If you're gonna if you're gonna go out and you're

878
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: gonna draft the the more proto type body type. Yeah, yeah,

879
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: you know, get your X and your Z. He could

880
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: be your Y type.

881
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: Boston very interesting. I mean now, okay, now you got

882
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 3: a real receiving core. Very interested.

883
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: Speaking of wide receivers, John tweets us after the combine,

884
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on Jacoby Lane. He's kind of

885
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: the other USC wide receiver besides uh mackay Lemon.

886
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 3: I think he's the perfect example of media fans get

887
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 3: too excited about what happened in Indy because he had

888
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 3: a really good workout, but his tape. He still gets put.

889
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: He gets pushed around or through is He does not

890
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: play strong at all. He's very linear, he's very lean,

891
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 3: and he gets misguided through his routes. A bunch press

892
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: coverage beats the crap out of him, and he's not

893
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 3: a sharp route runner. Even though he's a good athlete.

894
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 3: There's stuff to work with there, but I wouldn't double

895
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 3: count him. And everyone knew he was a good athlete

896
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 3: that went to the USC, sure, but he's not a

897
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 3: good receiver yet. You know.

898
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: It's a good way to put it.

899
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all.

900
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: Right, Matt.

901
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: A couple of quick hitters here.

902
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 2: As we wrap this thing up, Brad tweets us and says,

903
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 2: have you guys done a segment on the Steelers free

904
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: agents and whether you would want to resign them or

905
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: let them walk? If so, please point me towards that episode.

906
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: If not, how about having that. We did that conversation,

907
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: but it was like a month ago. We will do

908
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 2: that again this week before free.

909
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 3: I've had some thoughts change a little, but we should

910
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 3: do a big beefy segment of all the offensive guys,

911
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 3: big beefy segment on all the defensive guys. Soon Wednesday

912
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: or Thursday or something. Give you plenty of time to listen.

913
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 3: I'm with you on the for Monday.

914
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. T Maac tweets and says,

915
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: if Kyler Murray gets released, any interest for the Steelers?

916
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, but is a real fallback plan. I mean, like

917
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 3: it would be not be priority number one of all

918
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks that could move. I think he's the one

919
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 3: that's most likely to rejuvenate his career. But that's what

920
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: I would agree with that. I mean, like to be

921
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 3: the next Mayfield, Daniel Jones.

922
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: I just think of all those body types and I'm

923
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: doing I'm doing the pipe cast thing here, but like

924
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: Drew Brees is the only one who's going to Canton.

925
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 3: And Breeze is noticeably bigger, yeah, you know, and was

926
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: a tennis player.

927
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: A lot of these undersized guys they have success in spurts,

928
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: but it's just never as consistent as you want them

929
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: to be Baker Mayfield, you know.

930
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: So A big thing about Kyler is I think his

931
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: athleticism has definitely dropped, which you knew it would, sure,

932
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 3: you know. I mean he was a crazy.

933
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: Act like yosh, you know, he's fall top ten pick

934
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: all the.

935
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: Right, like most short quarterbacks really struggles in the middle

936
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 3: of field. But he's always been a really, really good

937
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 3: deep thrower, but this last year or two his deep

938
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: numbers are horrendous, horrendous, And maybe it's the system he's in.

939
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 3: But maybe he had Harrison and Wilson at McBride. I mean,

940
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: weren't that bad.

941
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: It gives me more pause.

942
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that used to be a saving grace.

943
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 3: Is crowded line Scrimmage's gonna beat you to the top

944
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 3: at least because he's not gonna be in the middle field. Well,

945
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: that's really falling off.

946
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 2: Last one SR ninety four tweets random But if you

947
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 2: were the Philadelphia Eagles, would you trade your twenty third

948
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: overall pick for Max Crosby?

949
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not random. We like these kinds of questions. Yes,

950
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 3: Schefter or Paulo Sero or one of those guys today

951
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 3: said Max Crosby very well could get traded the next

952
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 3: couple of days and mentioned Eagles, Niners, Patriots.

953
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: If you're the Eagles, it's when it's window open season.

954
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: That's what they do and why would you shy away

955
00:43:59,239 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 2: from that now?

956
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 3: And if I was the Patriots I'd be very excited.

957
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: Thirty first pick plus plus yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

958
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 2: Twenty third might get it done if you throw in

959
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: like a like a twenty twenty seven fifth rounders. Yeah yeah, yeah,

960
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 2: thirty one, You're gonna need a little more juice. But

961
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: tell you what, I'm sure, I'm sure mad Max would

962
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: be happy to land at either of those places. To

963
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: a great spots Matt Tomorrow on the show, Let's dig

964
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: deeper into the safety conversation. Yeah, both the free agency

965
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: class and the draft class.

966
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: It's a much bigger need than it looks on the surface.

967
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: And let's go over some newer cut candidates here this

968
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: week as we get close to free agency in the

969
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 2: negotiating period about a week from now. But that would

970
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 2: do it for us for today. Thanks to Justin on

971
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 2: the Ones and twos TV, Mister V on the Mister

972
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 2: TV on the video side of things, the guy who

973
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: took seven thousand pounds of equipment to Indianapolis and back

974
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 2: and lived to tell.

975
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: Held one full of basic.

976
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: We as in we right right right. I told all

977
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: those other you know, our all of our other Steelers

978
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 2: media video buddies, you know, Nate and Alex and all

979
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: those guys who I love, great dudes with those yeah.

980
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: I told them though they're they're on my naughty list

981
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 2: because I you know, I wasn't gonna leave TV hang

982
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 2: into all this videos, the yeah yeah when we when

983
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 2: we submit our next invoices, Matt, I might have to

984
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 2: build the Steelers for a couple hours of video production

985
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: in there too. Big shout out the TV for the

986
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 2: great work all week, and as always, justin with us

987
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: here this week we're gonna have some fun for Matt Williamson,

988
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: un wes Ueler. Take care everybody. We will talk to

989
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: you tomorrow. As always, you know where to find us.

990
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991
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,040
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